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Wiki Understanding[edit]

On Requests for Adminship/Azernath you mentioned transclusions and dynamic lists. Would you mind explaining to me what these are, or providing a good link that does this? BigShotFancyMan (talk) 12:09, 6 March 2018 (MST)

I assume Mara was referring to transcluding the contents of one page to another, usually used with templates. You just put it on a page like {{SRD:Ability Scores}} (I used nowiki tags to stop the transclusion, but it'd normally display everything on that linked page on here) and you can duplicate page information without actually, ya know, duplicating page information? And I assume dynamic lists refers to DPLs (dynamic page lists) like we use on this page to dynamically list pages. I don't think we have help pages for them on D&D Wiki, but here you go: DPL and transclusion. Lemme know if you want something specific :) --GamerAim Chatmod.png (talk) 14:16, 6 March 2018 (MST)

4e Vehicles[edit]

Hello Marasmusine, I was wondering on whether you could spread some insight on whether the Buggy (4e Future Vehicle) and the Ride Armor (4e Future Vehicle) you created are equipment/vehicles or creatures so they can have the appropriate categories and breadcrumbs added and possibly have them moved to a more appropriate name space if needed.--Blobby383b (talk) 19:50, 13 March 2018 (MDT)

Ah, I figured out that they belong to the Future (4e Sourcebook) and should have now added the appropriate breadcrumbs/categories.--Blobby383b (talk) 00:30, 15 March 2018 (MDT)
Thanks Blobby. Marasmusine (talk) 15:14, 17 March 2018 (MDT)

Cauldron of Fear[edit]

Is it possible for a magic item or a special arcane focus to grant the ability to create a potion in 1 day? --Redrum 14:11, 30 March 2018 (MDT)

I'm not Mara but I believe the UA's artificer does something of this description. --ConcealedLight (talk) 15:31, 30 March 2018 (MDT)
Magic item creation is the purview of the DM. Check with your DM. Marasmusine (talk) 11:10, 31 March 2018 (MDT)
I'm the 5e DM of my group. I considering "giving" a gift to 1 of the warlock in my group from her patron. I was just wondering if it was possible to do potions VERY quickly. --Redrum 18:44, 4 April 2018 (MDT)
As the DM you decide that. The suggestion in the DMG is that magic item creation progresses at 25 gp per day, so a common potion takes 4 days; an uncommon takes 20 days and so on. But you can set the rates to whatever you want, either for all magic items or for just potions. You can have an increased rate associated with a feat, or a class feature, or a blessing reward. Whatever you want. Marasmusine (talk) 13:10, 6 April 2018 (MDT)

Crow Caller[edit]

Hello Marasmusine You were a big help when I was working on my King of Games class last year. The campaign got to LV 10 and the biggest problem was the CR gap. I would scan a newly killed creature but not be able to summon it for the next 6 levels for fear of it being to strong. Kind of weak at levels 2-5 as well. I was hoping that you could find the time to look at a new class I'm building called "Crow Caller". It is a lot simpler but I'm not sure about the low-high level damage scaling. I'm sure there are other things I overlooked and would appreciate any input. --Triten (talk) 03:16, 15 April 2018 (MDT)

Hi, I might have chance tomorrow. Marasmusine (talk) 14:27, 16 April 2018 (MDT)

Dragon Slayer Class[edit]

Hey Mara, I know you have been quite busy lately, but if you can, could you talk to Nemon0416? I ask this because at this point, I would rather not enter into an edit war with them over their improper removal of templates on the Dragon Slayer (Demon Slayer Variant) (5e Class) and Dragon Slayer (5e Class), plus to an extent the Fairy Tail Dragon Slayer (5e Class) created to circumvent the original class almost being deleted.--Blobby383b (talk) 10:04, 17 April 2018 (MDT)

I'll look into as soon as I can. Marasmusine (talk) 12:20, 17 April 2018 (MDT)
Okay, understandably, Nemon doesn't want the pages deleting because of the work put into them. On the other hand, they're a bit of a mess and not particularly original. It might be worth seeing how he would respond to someone improving the pages, it could be a learning exercise. If they are mechanically sound but still not that exciting, they could be moved to userspace. I don't mind working on it a little bit, but probably not till later this week. If we still think they should be deleted, just give it a bit of time and look at it later. Marasmusine (talk) 13:33, 17 April 2018 (MDT)

Responding to vlog[edit]

My laptop got water in it and ill need some good classes and races to review so until then it will take some time if you have any suggestions let me know.

Agh, bad luck with the laptop. I was just interested to see if you had made any videos to watch! Marasmusine (talk) 15:22, 2 May 2018 (MDT)
I'll see what i can do any suggestions for what i should review.--Alucarddragonborn (talk) 11:11, 3 May 2018 (MDT)
I'd suggest any of the Featured Articles as they're meant to be the best of the wiki. --ConcealedLightThis user is an administrator (talk) 12:32, 3 May 2018 (MDT)
^^^ BigShotFancyMan (talk) 12:53, 3 May 2018 (MDT)

I made my first video but it wont be up for a while still looking for a channel name ive come up with D&Daily but i dont know if that will stick.if you want to give me some suggestions for a channel name or a class i should review just leave me a message.--Alucarddragonborn (talk) 13:57, 14 May 2018 (MDT)

I'm sure weke and subscribe if you want. could work something out if you wanted to use the official D&D Wiki YouTube channel.--GamerAim Chatmod.png (talk) 18:20, 14 May 2018 (MDT)
We have an official D&D Wiki YouTube channel? Marasmusine (talk) 02:04, 15 May 2018 (MDT)
Yes.--GamerAim Chatmod.png (talk) 05:25, 15 May 2018 (MDT)
What's on it? :) Marasmusine (talk) 05:31, 15 May 2018 (MDT)
Just some videos I made. Nothing interesting. Sounds like it won't be getting usage :( --GamerAim Chatmod.png (talk) 13:36, 15 May 2018 (MDT)

im doing reviews on classes races and even campaign settings im bad wit editing and siblings are a pest but i like making it but i think it will be fun.I also have an idea of doing stories of different races and classes like telling a story basically to keep it interesting.the name of the channel is MinmaxerOverlord--Alucarddragonborn (talk) 11:38, 15 May 2018 (MDT)

Im glad you like it makeing videos is really hard to do make sure to leave a like and subscribe.--Alucarddragonborn (talk) 18:07, 7 June 2018 (MDT)


Someone pretty much tainted my Nano Spider class and it says "F$%* You author F*&% you 2 times" and i want to know how to make a request to have it locked so only I Big Shot and admin can edit it.--Alucarddragonborn (talk) 10:29, 16 May 2018 (MDT)

I'll protect it if the vandalism becomes excessive. One random edit isn't cause to do this yet. I've blocked the IP that made that edit. Marasmusine (talk) 11:13, 16 May 2018 (MDT)

Thank you i really hate hecklers and what does you mean by feature needs improving..--Alucarddragonborn (talk) 13:13, 16 May 2018 (MDT)

I gave a reply on the Nano Spider talk page. BigShotFancyMan (talk) 19:16, 16 May 2018 (MDT)

A favour[edit]

Hey, Mara. Could I ask that you weigh in on the Boon of Immortality (5e Epic Boon) as you're undoubtedly one of the more well-versed admins in this regard. Thanks. --ConcealedLightThis user is an administrator (talk) 11:06, 18 May 2018 (MDT)

Sentient Item Balance[edit]

Hello Marasmusine, I have recently noticed that you have marked quite a few sentient item pages with {{needsbalance}} templates. Looking back at these pages, they didn't seem to strike me as unbalanced because sentient items typically have abnormally high power when compared to non-sentient weapons. The Sample Sentient Items section on pp. 216-8 of the 5e DMG shows several examples of sentient items whose power level far exceeds that of other regular magical items. With that said, I likely should have expressed this in the Equipment Design (5e Guideline)#Sentient Items when I created it.--Blobby383b (talk) 11:35, 18 May 2018 (MDT)

I haven't got the DMG handy right now, but what rarity is Whelm? Is it legendary? Whelm is a +3 weapon with 1) a conditional extra damage die, 2) a 1/day special attack, 3) a 1/day low-level utility spell. Since a regular +3 weapon is very rare, the extra features would bring it to Legendary. Certainly not "abnormally high" compared to other legendary weapons.
One editor I spoke to believed that sentient items were supposed to be more powerful than artefacts, which isn't the case, so many of his sentient weapon articles have been tagged. If there's one in particular you'd to discuss in detail let me know. Marasmusine (talk) 09:19, 19 May 2018 (MDT)
Huh, it seems that if anything, blackrazor is above the power level of a typically legendary weapon(2 condition immunities, temp hit points equal to a creatures hp you have killed, non concentration haste, 60 foot blindsight, and a +3 weapon), but overall the sentient weapons appear to be close to a regular legendary weapon in terms of balance. It seems I must have gotten the impression that sentient items are bonkers when first looked at sentient weapons when I first got the 5e DMG and was unfamiliar with how strong exactly they were.
On a different note, I now know that a ton of the sentient items I have looked at while on the wiki are most definitely busted and likely need one or more templates, including some I have worked on myself. Also, thanks for taking the time to clear things up,--Blobby383b (talk) 10:13, 19 May 2018 (MDT)
I've only recently started looking at the sentient weapons here, there's a lot to go through. They can be a bit more powerful if they are prone to conflicts, or have specific attunement requirements. But power should be sidegrades not upgrades. By that I mean that damage output, AC, etc. should still be within bounds, but the item might have an additional function. Marasmusine (talk) 04:16, 20 May 2018 (MDT)

Really Important[edit]

I want to know what happens when im not on the D&D Wiki for along time say 2 years would my account be deleted or would the classes that i have created be marked as abandoned or worse deleted.PLZ get back to me as soon as you can.--Alucarddragonborn (talk) 12:29, 23 May 2018 (MDT)

I'm fairly sure there is no functionality to delete an account from the wiki. The closest thing would be an indefinite block, but accounts are only blocked when users behave disruptively. If you just left the wiki, your account would just sit there, unused. Pages you've created would be marked for deletion or abandonment only if they are incomplete and/or in a state where it would be difficult or impossible to use them or improve upon them. — Geodude Chatmod.png (talk | contribs | email)‎‎ . . 12:59, 23 May 2018 (MDT)
If in doubt, just make a copy of your work. Marasmusine (talk) 15:53, 23 May 2018 (MDT)
To expand, pages can sometimes be restored if requested and given good reason :) --GamerAim Chatmod.png (talk) 06:33, 24 May 2018 (MDT)

thats cool just wondering havent had alot of time on the wiki since highschool graduation.--Alucarddragonborn (talk) 18:41, 31 May 2018 (MDT)


Would the Mouser from the Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles be considered equipment or a creature?-- 18:32, 30 May 2018 (MDT)

I have no idea I don't watch cartoons or whatever. Marasmusine (talk) 11:40, 31 May 2018 (MDT)

Far Mage[edit]

Hey Marasmusine! I really appreciate the work you've done on Far Mage. I haven't had the opportunity to be playing D&D over for the past couple years, but that might be changing soon. I think I might be able to get a group together, so I've been working on building a world to use. That reminded me the Far Mage class I had essentially abandoned. I have a couple questions before I start to work on it again. I like how you've redone the sanity system for casting at a higher level. I think it's much more balanced than what I had before. There are still a couple points where the sanity percent is referenced (Caiphon's Aid, Eye of the Storm). Should those be reworked to have disadvantages instead relating to some aspect of the Mind of Madness trait, or should they have unrelated disadvantages. Another question is about the spell list that will be the bulk of the work fleshing out the Far Mage. I'm not sure how many options Far Mages should have for spells. Right now on the cantrips it's about 2/3 of a wizards choices, and first level about 1/2. Should that proportion be about right as a sort of heuristic? The last couple two questions go hand in hand. I noticed that you had named a few spells that don't seem to exist yet (Illusory Exhaustion, Mental Backlash, Whirling Tentacles). Did you have very specific ideas about what those would be, or should I start by creating spell descriptions for those before moving on to the higher levels? Lastly, about what proportion of spells should be new? For cantrips and first level it looks to be about a fifth. Does that sound right to be applied to higher levels? I realize you must be incredibly busy with a lot on your plate. I think it's awesome how you've been involved so deeply with so much on this site for so long. I'd really appreciate any feedback you could give to the above questions in however long it takes you to get around to them. Thanks!

- Murder Cat
Hi Murder Cat, welcome back. It's been about 1 year since I worked on the Far Mage, so let me read through it again and I'll get back to you. Marasmusine (talk) 01:57, 3 June 2018 (MDT)
Okay, so it looks like I only rewrote the spellcasting section, and it was my intention to go through the rest of the page at some point. I didn't add those spells with weird names. I'm not 100% sure on the spell proportions yet. The numbers I put in were provisionally similar to a wizard, as I wanted to evaluate the other class features (e.g. what the focus is, if they have a lot of combat potential, or provide more spells, etc). Just glancing through now, I see a lot of different stacking bonuses, which is something 5e limits heavily.
I can delve into it properly one day next week. Marasmusine (talk) 02:15, 3 June 2018 (MDT)

Background question[edit]

Is a Mental Hospital Patient Background a good idea or a bad idea? --Redrum 18:25, 6 June 2018 (MDT)

As long as you put some thought into how people with mental ailments were treated in medieval times (do the research), and how they might be treated in a world with magic and deities.
For example, read this about epilepsy. In a fantasy campaign, if someone has epileptic seizures, is it because of brain damage, or are they actually being attacked by demons, or actually a prophet receiving messages from a god? Is it thought to be contagious, so they are separated from the other inmates of an institution? If it is cause by brain damage, would a greater restoration spell remove the ailment? Marasmusine (talk) 08:40, 7 June 2018 (MDT)
I was thinking of dropping into my campaign a version of Arkham Asylum for the Criminally Insane and wanted something other than the Criminal background for it. --Redrum 13:31, 30 June 2018 (MDT)
Could being an surfer be a background? -- 13:21, 6 October 2018 (MDT)
Yes. Marasmusine (talk) 07:34, 7 October 2018 (MDT)

Requesting the return of Soul Warden 3.5 class[edit]

Hey, I know this was back in November 2016 that the last deletion was made, according to the logs when I tried to access the class page. The campaign the character using the class was on hiatus for a time, and we're working to get it back running. The class had been restored by you in the past, I forget if it was myself or one of the other players/the DM who requested it be restored then. I was tasked with editing it to make it more balanced today, as re balancing is part of our work to get off hiatus. I kindly request that, if it is even possible at this point, that it be restored again.

[1] this was the link to the class, I figure that would be helpful, given the time gone since it was deleted

I have restored the page for the time being. I will leave it up for a few days, after which it will be deleted again. — Geodude Chatmod.png (talk | contribs | email)‎‎ . . 21:12, 14 June 2018 (MDT)

DND Magazine[edit]

Hello Mara, this is Cotsu letting you know that I have been drawn to the Dnd wiki magazine project. I have been editing and reviewing pages actively associated with the Oozes and Holy issues and was wondering if you needed any further assistance with anything. Please send me a message indicating said help if it is required. Cotsu Malcior (talk) 12:02, 26 July 2018 (MDT)

Hello, I'm afraid I cannot devote time to the magazine anymore, so basically a new editor is needed. Marasmusine (talk) 08:05, 30 July 2018 (MDT)
Hey, Mara. I noticed you had no time for it, which is why I asked Cotsu to help out, since he has a good knowledge of multiple systems and could vet the content for the magazine. Whenever you have the time, I do have two questions: Was it you who did the layout of the magazine or someone else? And do you remember if the struck-out pages were articles you'd approved, thought needed work, denied, or what? I'm tryna get this thing back up, but I wasn't involved with it before, so these two answers could help a lot! Take care.--GamerAim Chatmod.png (talk) 09:22, 30 July 2018 (MDT)
Sorry for the late reply. I used Word 2013 for the layout. I'm sorry, I can't remember what was happening with the strike-outs.
If I were to do it again, I would just stick to 5e material. One of the biggest hurdles was tying to get people to evaluate 3rd edition material.
I also felt like I was spending far too much time actually balancing and copyediting articles when what I needed were some sub-editors.
Good luck! Marasmusine (talk) 01:31, 5 August 2018 (MDT)
Thank you for the well wishes Mara. I hope we can breathe some new life and thank you so much for the tips and the reply. I know how much work you do for the wiki so thank you for taking time out to give us some pointers. Cotsu Malcior (talk) 08:05, 5 August 2018 (MDT)


Is it possible for a sun to produce something that mimics psychic energy?--Redrum 18:47, 1 August 2018 (MDT)

If that's what you want for your campaign setting, go for it. — Geodude Chatmod.png (talk | contribs | email)‎‎ . . 20:38, 1 August 2018 (MDT)
What kind of psychic energy are you talking about here? What's the context? I have an elder evil in my own game, called the king in yellow(based off an old horror series), he's what remains of an ancient pantheon of gods from afar off sun that calls out to the creatures of the multiverse. He has cults of mad psionics that grow more insane the more psychic power they use. Not sure if relevant but I'm curious to know. —ConcealedLightChatmod.png (talk) 07:50, 3 August 2018 (MDT)
ConcealedLight, I was thinking of doing a planet that MIGHT BE the homeworld of the Mindflayers or whatever they evolved from. --Redrum 18:38, 8 August 2018 (MDT)
Neat. Not heard or seen someone try to build on that area of the game and the origin of the Mindflayers are kept ambiguous for that reason. Good luck. —ConcealedLightChatmod.png (talk) 21:11, 8 August 2018 (MDT)
It is still in the early stages. --Redrum 14:49, 11 August 2018 (MDT)

Potion of Gloop[edit]

Marasmusine, you are scary!!! -- 14:31, 11 August 2018 (MDT)

Thanks :) Marasmusine (talk) 13:40, 14 August 2018 (MDT)


Hi Mara, just a quick question: there are two users in the Discord server with the name "Marasmusine;" could you confirm which, if any, of the users is you? — Geodude Chatmod.png (talk | contribs | email)‎‎ . . 10:16, 1 September 2018 (MDT)

Well, I had some trouble with it. I seemed to get stuck in a loop of registering and claiming an account, and it telling me that I couldn't because I'd already used my email address or some other nonsense. Marasmusine (talk) 14:14, 1 September 2018 (MDT)
Okay, I can write messages now, which is a step up. It still says that this is an unclaimed account, and then won't let me claim it. Marasmusine (talk) 14:17, 1 September 2018 (MDT)
Oh I see, there are different channels, I must have been on a read only channel before. I feel so old. Marasmusine (talk) 14:18, 1 September 2018 (MDT)

Negative Energy[edit]

Is it possible for a disease to create a hunger so INTENSE that it disrupts natural healing? -- 18:28, 5 September 2018 (MDT)

Diseases have been known to disrupt natural healing and require the body to consume more nutrients than usual, yes.--GamerAim Chatmod.png (talk) 18:41, 5 September 2018 (MDT)
GamerAim, Is it possible (in game terms) for said disease to turn it's victims into undead? --Redrum 18:45, 5 September 2018 (MDT)
Sure. — Geodude Chatmod.png (talk | contribs | email)‎‎ . . 20:48, 5 September 2018 (MDT)

Class Arcane Puppeteer[edit]

The class has the ability to learn and cast Arcane spells and you show a lost of what spells it can learn and you have cantrips listed but under the spell table and casting section you don't show how many cantrips the class can learn. I was also wondering when casting spells and using the puppet to fulfill the somatic requirements does the spell still originate from you?

Thanks for the feedback, I'll clarify that information as soon as I can. Marasmusine (talk) 06:35, 10 February 2018 (MST)

Ardent Crusader fan[edit]

Hey man. I revently started playing again and last year sometime I had been using your ardent crusader model with some tweaks of my own. I have lost my character sheet to the. Ether and was wondering if you might still have your model somewhere and could get it to me through magic of electronic mailing systems.

I'm not Marasmusine, but regardless I've restored Ardent Crusader (5e Class). Please make a copy of it to your computer because it will be deleted again in a few days. — Geodude671 Chatmod.png (talk | contribs | email)‎ . . 23:41, 27 February 2018 (MST)

Arcane Puppeteer Shadow/Hand Puppet[edit]

I'm considering this class for a Homebrew campaign I've joined, but I'm confused on the subject of Hand/Shadow Puppets. Are they literally just mundane puppets? If that's the case, wouldn't a Shadow Puppet just be the PC's hand?

Please contact me on Hangouts at if you read this, I'd greatly appreciate your response.

Price Check[edit]

I know this might be a weird question but what would the price of a bikini be? -- 12:57, 29 September 2018 (MDT)

I would also be interested in the price of a bikini (or Swimsuit). --Redrum 13:31, 29 September 2018 (MDT)
Clothes are listed in the Player's Handbook. You just need to choose if it's a common or fine swimsuit. Marasmusine (talk) 01:54, 30 September 2018 (MDT)
I prefer the traveler's bikini, both stylish and practical. —ConcealedLightChatmod.png (talk) 04:57, 30 September 2018 (MDT)


Is there an unholy version of the Holy Avenger out there? --Redrum 18:01, 24 October 2018 (MDT)

Not really. Though you could make one. Some might say the Blackrazor is a pretty good anti-weapon. An easy way to make one would be to switch radiant out for necrotic damage, put the attunement requirement to be evil creatures, removed the creature types that proc the damage and switch them to go off when you strike a good-aligned creature, maybe make it so that creatures within range that hostile or good-aligned creatures have disadvantage on saving throws against spells. GL. —ConcealedLightChatmod.png (talk) 07:51, 25 October 2018 (MDT)

Requesting Insights[edit]

Hey, can you weigh in here as I believe you worked on an epic PC sourcebook at one point and I'm not certain on the spellcasting table of a full caster(Cleric in this case) beyond 20th level. —ConcealedLightChatmod.png (talk) 14:24, 4 November 2018 (MST)

Sorry for the delay, I'm super busy. I'll look as soon as I can. I will say that my sourcebook assumes that all the normal D&D rules are in use: 20th level is the maximum and players continue to gain power through epic boons. Marasmusine (talk) 03:19, 22 November 2018 (MST)

Talk:D&D Wiki on Social Media#Cross-Accountability[edit]

Would you mind weighing in here? As you are also a Wikipedia admin, I feel your input on this topic could be particularly valuable. — Geodude Chatmod.png (talk | contribs | email)‎‎ . . 11:29, 21 November 2018 (MST)

I will try to as soon as possible. It's a difficult time for me right now. Marasmusine (talk) 03:24, 22 November 2018 (MST)
What everyone else said. Marasmusine (talk) 04:59, 27 November 2018 (MST)

Society of the Blind (or Unseeing) Eye[edit]

Is there a 5e Forget spell? It could be useful for a magical raygun I'm working on. --Redrum 14:05, 15 December 2018 (MST)

Please tell me you didn't get this idea from the Gravity Falls cartoon!!! -- 17:43, 19 December 2018 (MST)
I found a few different ones, here, here, and here. Hope this helps! If not too late... --Cosmos (talk) 16:32, 9 March 2019 (MST)

Santa Klaws[edit]

Could there be a child-eating Santa Claus? -- 17:41, 19 December 2018 (MST)

I hope not. --Redrum 18:19, 19 December 2018 (MST)
Why the heck do you want to know if there is a child-eating Santa Claus (or Santa Klaws)? But either way, there appears to be no search results for a Santa Klaws. --Cosmos (talk) 16:30, 9 March 2019 (MST)

Absolute Darkness (5e Spell)[edit]

Hi there, my name is Cosmos, and I was looking through spells and noticed the spell, Absolute Darkness (5e Spell), which I decided to try and help out with saving it from an untimely demise. And now I want to talk to the creator but I can't figure out who the creator is... I saw that you and someone else had made comments on it. Can you help me? I've made some major changes, and I wan't to confirm with the creator, since it seems like the spell hasn't been touched in a while. --Cosmos (talk) 00:52, 23 December 2018 (MST)

Seven deadly sins Spirit spear chastiefol[edit]

This equipment does have mechanical sense if you have seen the anime or read the manga i feel it is balanced do I need to put an extra tag on it.

Gowther sparkle, the equipment needs to make mechanical sense to people who have not seen the anime or read the manga. And you have not provided enough instructions on how the weapon actually works. It also has balance issues, does it not need attunement? Does it not have charges? Also, you need to sign your comments. You can do this by putting down two dashes and four tildes, like this... --~~~~. The result is this... --Cosmos (talk) 09:14, 11 February 2019 (MST)
Is it anything like the 3.5e Weapons of Sin? --Redrum 17:18, 13 February 2019 (MST)
Yes. Here. --Cosmos (talk) 15:11, 23 February 2019 (MST)
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