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Woah, what a cool dude

That's me, SgtLion. New talk page for a new era. --SgtLion (talk) 18:35, 24 May 2017 (UTC)


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I award thoust Lion Ring, to bequethed upon thou in return for faithful protecting and categorization of thine servant for thy associate. Ye hath improperly repossessed of thy heart for thine actions.

--—The preceding unsigned comment was added by GamerAim (talkcontribs) . Please sign your posts.

Ohmygoshohmygosh! It's beautiful! Thank you!~~~~ <3
Nah, really, thank you for giving me the opportunity to give User:SgtLionBot a spin! --SgtLion (talk) 19:43, 26 May 2017 (UTC)
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I award you with the Lionring in return for your help getting the banner working. Good job!--GamerAim (talk) 01:04, 1 June 2017 (UTC)
This is madness! --SgtLion (talk) 07:55, 1 June 2017 (UTC)

You are awesome

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You, with the support of others, have accomplished something very wonderful for this wiki. The homebrew/official banners are established, and people can stop losing their minds over the matter. People now have only themselves to blame for their own misunderstandings. I can not thank you enough for going through the tangle of code necessary to make that happen. --Kydo (talk) 06:09, 3 June 2017 (UTC)
My talk page is just me being plastered with praise. I should just stop here. Thanks a bunch <3 --SgtLion (talk) 10:22, 3 June 2017 (UTC)
The SgtLionbot is also doing amazing work by the way. I thank you for your tireless work Commander L. --From a certain someone...(talk)14:39, 19 August 2017 (MDT)


Hi, not sure if you noticed but when you edited the spell list thing -hasn't been here for even a month yet- i noticed that there are a lot more 5e shadowknight classes in the spell listings xo) also typing this mainly for the reason of saying hi I'm bigdaddy881 for the sake of introducing myself (ox --Bigdad881 (talk) 06:49, 28 July 2017 (MDT)

I'm not sure what you mean. Shadowknight classes in the spell listings? And hello. --SgtLion (talk) 08:25, 28 July 2017 (MDT)
If your pages are stale, then use the refresh tab on the top of the page to see the current version. --Green Dragon (talk) 09:54, 28 July 2017 (MDT)

need help

hey sarge i started posting my first class and I cant seem to get the starting equipment to work right can I get help? also side note its still a huge work in progress and I posted it because I cant save it on my computer as i dont have windows apps i have lynx, meaning understand it, here is the link (talk) 22:11, 28 July 2017 (MDT)

Seems like your equipment is formatting right. Not sure what your issue is here? --SgtLion (talk) 05:07, 29 July 2017 (MDT)

i have no clue either ReddtheRage (talk) 07:34, 29 July 2017 (MDT)

hey so i cant post my class features and abilities for some reason and need trying to get this to post... level one the gear sailor gains the ability known as "Rigging Knot" taking you full turn to do this the gear sailor ties a rigging knot to a vehicle and attaches it to the gear sailors belt, while this is active the gear sailor gains advantage check on athletics and acrobatics, this does not stop until the knot is untied,or cut and takes one full turn to do so. however the gear sailor must have rope on him or her to do this and they can only move the max feet of the length of the rope. ReddtheRage (talk) 08:33, 29 July 2017 (MDT)

I still cannot decipher your needs well enough to help. Perhaps the chat would be an easier place to resolve this. --SgtLion (talk) 12:06, 29 July 2017 (MDT)

Hey, Cool Dude!

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Hey, cool dude! Here's a totally hip barnstar for using your radical robot to automate (most of) the 3e SRD creatures! I'm sure I speak for everyone when I say how much we appreciate what you've done for us with your bot, so thanks <3 --GamerAim Chatmod.png (talk) 07:53, 3 September 2017 (MDT)
Too much barnstar power! Glorious. Thank you. --SgtLion (talk) 07:51, 3 September 2017 (MDT)

Bots Gone Wild!!!

So hey, SgtLionBot's chugging along and doing its job marvelously - except for a tiny hitch. The bot's protected my Prismatic (3.5e Equipment) and Prismatic Burst (3.5e Equipment) pages as "SRD OGL Content". I'm happy as a clam that the bot thinks my creations worthy, but they're not part of the System Reference Document. There might be some official content by that name, but these are not them :D Cancelion (talk) 14:19, 7 September 2017 (MDT)

Hello. The pages have been fixed and unprotected. Please review that they use the proper 3.5e magic item templates. The reason the bot protected them was that you used an SRD footer, which categorized them as being in the SRD. Thank you for bringing this to our attention :) --GamerAim Chatmod.png (talk) 14:33, 7 September 2017 (MDT)
Cheers for sortin' that. --SgtLion (talk) 15:43, 7 September 2017 (MDT)
What an amazingly silly mistake from me, my bad! Thanks for taking care of it. Cancelion (talk) 23:48, 7 September 2017 (MDT)

Looking over 3e

Hello, could you also look over the 3e SRD:Animated Object (all 7), 3e SRD:Arrowhawk (all 3), 3e SRD:Barghest and 3e SRD:Barghest, Greater pages? I forgot to ask you the other day.--GamerAim Chatmod.png (talk) 16:34, 10 September 2017 (MDT)

Alrighty, fixed a few typos and whatnot. The only thing I'm slightly uncomfortable with is 3e_SRD:Arrowhawk,_Adult. I've changed the entries as per how I'm reading the document, including changing the Juvenile's +7 to +10, but it doesn't seem right to me that the Juvenile has +10 Search and the Elder has +18 Search while the adult has no search bonus, so I submit to your greater wisdom on that one. --SgtLion (talk) 02:01, 11 September 2017 (MDT)

D&D Wiki plays...Diplomacy?

You're invited!Geodude671 (talk | contribs | email)‎ . . 18:49, 19 October 2017 (MDT)

User Pages

Is everything ok? Why did you blank your user pages? --Green Dragon (talk) 23:20, 24 October 2017 (MDT)

Sorry to make you (and others) worry with the classic self-blanks. Things aren't okay in my life, and I'm having a real tough time of it, at the moment. --SgtLion (talk) 02:58, 25 October 2017 (MDT)
You have my wishes, use them as you may. I hope that you can make this work for you. --Green Dragon (talk) 09:34, 25 October 2017 (MDT)
I hope you can sort it out as well, a SgtLion that is doing well is a boon to the wiki and everyone on it. We will send you are energy and support to help facilitate this.--Blobby383b (talk) 09:52, 25 October 2017 (MDT)

Arcane Warrior deleted

One player of my group plays an Arcane Warrior from that is actually deleted. The problem is that my player has to level up soon and there is no access to information about his class. I understand that the class was not balanced, but I personally don't care enough to force my player to change his class. I want to know if it is possible to have access to the Arcane Warrior class (maybe you can send it to me by e-mail: —The preceding unsigned comment was added by (talkcontribs) . Please sign your posts.

As you will know by now, I have emailed you on this subject. Lemme know if I can do anything else. --SgtLion (talk) 06:47, 22 November 2017 (MST)
I'm playing in a game where someone is playing the Arcane Warrior and needs to level up, could I get the information for this class too?? you can email me at —The preceding unsigned comment was added by (talkcontribs) . Please sign your posts.
I've emailed you the class info. Thanks for bothering to ask in the relevant talk section <3 --SgtLion (talk) 01:26, 3 January 2018 (MST)
I'm playing the game using arcane warrior, and i need to level up, can you send me the information for this class too?? you can email me at

Abomination Class

Hey there! I have seen your comment on the discussion page and left an answer as well as editing the class so that it has strict formulations now. Since it doesn't seem like you noticed it I just wanted to leave a reply here. I tried to explain everything the best I could and of course I am further open for your thoughts on the whole class. Let's make this class well balanced and working together! If you don't mind that is... --Asriel (talk)

Hey, thanks for responding. I always have time for people who can be bothered to talk about these things. I'm not sure I have much to offer in terms of making the class; As I said, my knowledge of 5e really is minimal. I'll help however I can, and probably enlist somebody else who actually knows 5e to looksie. --SgtLion (talk) 06:47, 22 November 2017 (MST)
Wow, that's some nice news to hear! Feel free to look over it whenever you feel like it again tho and I would be glad if you comment on what you noticed regarding balance. I have applied a lot of changes, regarding your comments as well. All in all I still need to work on the other two Manifestations beside Lycanthrope but I am glad you helped!

Barnstar and a Question

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I award you this barnstar for your willingness to jump into multiple large-sized infrastructure projects. Using SgtLionBot you have made vast improvements in a short time. This barnstar picks out your restructuring of EN Publishing to fit it with OGL requirements in a successful manner. --Green Dragon (talk) 23:29, 28 November 2017 (MST)

Thanks! I also want to direct your attention to Talk:5e Archetypes#Renaming "archetypes" to "subclasses". --Green Dragon (talk) 23:29, 28 November 2017 (MST)

Oh my, thank you~ As soon as one gets a bot working, it seems the opportunities for improvement never end. I'll go join in that discussion, thank you~ --SgtLion (talk) 02:09, 29 November 2017 (MST)

Im so lost

Alright. To begin this message, I’d like to state that this is my first time ever messaging someone. I ended up getting chewed out for deleting the comments on my class. I had no idea we were supposed to keep them. I’m very new to creating classes and just made my account a couple days ago. What confuses me is how I had “intimidating behavior” or how I was “frustrated”. I honestly have no idea where that came from. As you probably have seen, I recently made a class named “The Biggest Terry”. This started as an inside joke. My friend’s first class ever made was called “Big Terry” and he was a mage. However, due to a bias DM, he surpassed all of the rest of the party in xp, items, and wealth. Now our DM asked us to make or find an op class on homebrew. And so I realized this might be the time I can share both an inside joke and a funny class to the public. So I created “The Biggestt Terry” and I think my friends will get a kick out of it. I don’t want to be mean and I don’t know how I have but I’d like to keep my class on homebrew. Also, I’ve added a disclaimer stating it’s op and shouldn’t ever be used in normal gameplay. And to add to that, I think it’s a very fun class to play. With multiple abilities every level, it’ll constantly give the player something to look foward to. So yeah, I’m just a bit confused is all. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by BalancedDruid (talkcontribs) . Please sign your posts.

I think the issue isn't your page, "The Biggest Terry", per se, the issue is that you edited one of Geodude671's userpages (User:Geodude671/WIP/3) after he'd already gone on record saying that editing another user's userspace is a breach of behavioral policy (see User talk: Since he had reasonable issues with your class, whether you intended to or not your edits on Geodude's page could easily have been perceived as malicious. Quincy (talk) 19:38, 30 November 2017 (MST)
Hi BalancedDruid - Sorry I didn't make it clear enough. The block was indeed due to your vandalising of pages on Geodude671's user pages, as Quincy has rightly said. Being hostile to other users is not well tolerated, even if it had somehow been 'justified'. I know you're having a hard time of it, and thank you for messaging me and being open and polite about the issue.
I don't blame you for removing the templates - I've personally argued that I don't think the improvement (and especially deletion) templates should be placed on articles while they're still being created. I realise the inside joke and fun aspect of the class, that's nice enough, and the creativity behind the abilities. The issue with the class is that, design disclaimer or no, we do have standards that content should adhere to, otherwise things quickly become a bigger mess. My suggestion to anyone wanting to play a class and get new, exciting, multiple abilities per level, is to play with Gestalt variant rules, or just level up twice at a time, or use one of the many other variant rules. Hosting classes of varying power without any empirical standard makes it pretty much unusable to others, as they don't know how strong "strong" is until they stop having fun.
As such - No hard feelings. The block was merely preventative to stop you vandalising pages. The article will have to adhere to dandwiki standards, and will eventually be deleted/edit if it doesn't. If there's anything I can do to help you, either in explaining or doing something, do let me know. --SgtLion (talk) 01:43, 1 December 2017 (MST)
Note that we do provide some leniency towards classes marked as Template:April Fools, which I believe your class could qualify as, but last I saw, it still looked poorly-organized. You've plenty of time to try cleaning it up, and if you do, I'm sure it could be a very funny part of Category:April Fools.--GamerAim Chatmod.png (talk) 08:03, 1 December 2017 (MST)
I find that guidelines would be rather appropriate. If someone could write a draft version, then we can begin to discuss them. --Green Dragon (talk) 09:15, 1 December 2017 (MST)
Well, aye. Agreed. --SgtLion (talk) 09:16, 1 December 2017 (MST)
Thank you a ton for the clarification. I’ve been working on making my April fools class much cleaner and easier to understand. In addition to that, I think I can explain the vandalation I did to a class. My friend ( who happened to actually be the same friend who played as Big Terry) is also making a class. He was confused how to make it and actually began to edit one that was already created. He asked me how I created mine. After explaining, he asked me to go online and help edit his class. I had no idea I was editing someone’s else’s class. So I’m super sorry about that whole thing —The preceding unsigned comment was added by BalancedDruid (talkcontribs) . Please sign your posts.
Ah, that explains a lot, thank you. What I said still holds, but I understand your actions now, thank you. As I say, let me know if I can help at all. --SgtLion (talk) 04:06, 2 December 2017 (MST)

OGC Banner

The OGC namespace has been added, but I cannot seem to get the banner to work diff. What am I doing wrong? --Green Dragon (talk) 22:44, 1 January 2018 (MST)

The commas, dear GD. The goshdarned commas! Bane of my CSS life! At least, that's my guess. I'll just check. --SgtLion (talk) 03:10, 2 January 2018 (MST)
That seems to work. Whoop. --SgtLion (talk) 03:11, 2 January 2018 (MST)
Since we're already discussing the OGC banner here, could we also discuss changes to the wording? I don't have any ideas right now besides changing "Official" to "Unofficial" and IDK what to say instead of "Open Game License Page" but that sounds sort of misleading as well (the page itself does not contain our OGL).--GamerAim Chatmod.png (talk) 07:04, 2 January 2018 (MST)
I agree with GamerAim. Calling the OGC 'official' will likely lead to confusion. Though I too find it hard to know what to put in place. Maybe use 'Third-Party Content (Page?)' instead of 'Open Game License Page'? All the pages comes with license notices anyhow. --SgtLion (talk) 07:25, 2 January 2018 (MST)
I think that "Third-Party Content Page" sounds good.--GamerAim Chatmod.png (talk) 07:57, 2 January 2018 (MST)
How is File:OGC Banner.jpg worded now? --Green Dragon (talk) 11:44, 2 January 2018 (MST)
I think the wording is great! But could I suggest using the homebrew image instead? I think it'd help to subtly compound the distinction between "official" and "unofficial" content, but I trust the decision in your capable hands as always.--GamerAim Chatmod.png (talk) 12:43, 2 January 2018 (MST)
I'd just like to say that the banner looks great now :) --GamerAim Chatmod.png (talk) 05:47, 22 January 2018 (MST)

Got A Question For You

So Need TO Know If Something Can Be Moved From Race To Template? [[1]] As I See It As More of a Template. and im going to be working on it over time. --Silverraca Jan 17 2018

Image Resizing


Marasmusine (talk) 02:19, 26 January 2018 (MST)

--SgtLion (talk) 06:50, 29 January 2018 (MST)

About the Airrens

I was wondering if you could possibly unlock this race. if it's possible at all, I would like to take ownership of it if that's okay

Hi, what page is this? — Geodude671 Chatmod.png (talk | contribs | email)‎ . . 08:46, 5 March 2018 (MST)

Reaper of Chronepsis

Got on the wiki for the first time in years (ugh, school) and saw the Shadow Walk you came up with for that class, it's a good fit. I'm curious, though, I was looking through the revisions and saw that you'd removed a provision that the class would only be able to use that ability a number of times per day equal to their wisdom modifier. I just worried that without the limit, they essentially always move double speed and avoid attacks of opportunity, and that might be a little on the powerful side (thought I suppose it's an 18th level ability, so it should be powerful). And thought while I was voicing that concern, I'd say "Hi." Hehe. Siubijeni (talk) 01:45, 6 March 2018 (MST)

Oh, gosh, hiya. Lovely to hear back from you, hopefully school has been a blast for you. It was long ago, I can't say I actually remember any of my thoughts when editing that class, to be honest~ And that does sound like a valid concern. I'm happy to revisit and look it over sometime in the next couple weeks, but feel free to edit/revert anything you feel appropriate in the meantime. I just remember liking the thing too much to allow it to be deleted. --SgtLion (talk) 01:47, 6 March 2018 (MST)
No worries, I understand there's a lot of back and forth on these things. School itself hasn't exactly been a blast, but hey, you gotta do what you gotta do. Lot of progress on some other projects I hope to actually get some income from, though, working around school. Hoping to maybe finish the setting I started on here (though with revisions, as it has been quite a while and the setting it was based on has changed significantly) --Siubijeni (talk) 15:14, 6 March 2018 (MST)
Ooh, neat. Aye, school can be a bore, but it sounds like you've interesting things going on, how cuuuurious~ I'd more than welcome your return to finishing content you've started; don't be afraid to get some articles back on their original track, if it seems a good way forward. I'll definitely have a look and a revisit to that content, soon. I'm happy to talk more here, but if the fancy takes you, feel free to hit me up on Discord/Steam/Skype/email/whatevs sometime, could be fun. --SgtLion (talk) 15:26, 6 March 2018 (MST)


K I'm here,stop messing with my stuff its fine how it is. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Danedemon6663 (talkcontribs) . Please sign your posts.

As I said, the wiki has guidelines and requirements for article content not in userspaces, so they will be mercilessly edited, as warned. If you want help moving your pages to your userspace, just ask. --SgtLion (talk) 17:16, 22 March 2018 (MDT)


I'm not sure what should be changed, the race is balanced and all of the traits were made in order to suit the fluff with any min-maxing purely by chance. I'll gladly take suggestions on how to tweak it better. Aniikinis (talk) 07:30, 4 May 2018 (MDT)

No worries - It's possible I might've got things confused. I'll take a closer look at it later, thanks for the message <3 --SgtLion (talk) 07:32, 4 May 2018 (MDT)
Danke schoen, I hope everything is okay. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Aniikinis (talkcontribs) . Please sign your posts.
I think I was just on a war path, and put off by the minor text issues I saw. As you've probably already seen I've removed the PfD and made the minor syntax changes. Whoop <3 --SgtLion (talk)

Background and MediaWiki

Could you please give your input on Talk:Main Page#New Background? --Green Dragon (talk) 08:06, 23 May 2018 (MDT)


Was there EVER a 3.5e magical ring that detects poison? -- 18:22, 20 June 2018 (MDT)

Uh, one doesn't come to mind. It's hardly a powerful item, so you can surely make one up yourself. --SgtLion (talk) 02:35, 21 June 2018 (MDT)
If there wasn't one here I could print off, I was going suggest one to my DM and call it a Noble's Ring. -- 13:45, 30 June 2018 (MDT)

3.5e Homebrew Races???

What happened to all of the thousands of races on the homebrew? I was in the middle of making a character and it spat out on me and I cant finish because I dont have the resources I had--—The preceding unsigned comment was added by [[User:{{{1}}}|{{{1}}}]] ([[User talk:{{{1}}}|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/{{{1}}}|contribs]]) . Please sign your posts.

Hi. These races are still available, you can access them from the LA # pages, such as LA 0 Races. As the site notice explicitly states, we're currently ironing out issues that have arisen in the latest upgrade, so all may not be as expected at the moment. --SgtLion (talk) 04:05, 21 July 2018 (MDT)
Andaswish. The issue with DPLs should now be resolved and work as before. --SgtLion (talk) 05:36, 21 July 2018 (MDT)


WMBarnstar.png The Working Man's Barnstar
I award you this barnstar for updating the wiki's MediaWiki software, and for tirelessly working to fix the problems that subsequently arose. — Geodude Chatmod.png (talk | contribs | email)‎‎ . . 13:19, 21 July 2018 (MDT)

Congrats on your Barnstar SgtLion and thanks for your dedication ensuring the wiki's functioning. BigShotFancyMan (talk) 14:46, 21 July 2018 (MDT)

Very impressive, and this barnstar fits your contribution to updating MediaWiki. I notice that the dpl count maxes out at 5,000 (see Main Page). --Green Dragon (talk) 04:13, 22 July 2018 (MDT)
Oh, right. I did that to reduce load while the server was catching up. Sorted. Thankee kindly, all <3 --SgtLion (talk) 04:39, 22 July 2018 (MDT)

Cant create an account

Any time I tried to make an account or click on "create account" in the top right of the page I get some sort of error that prevents me from doing so. I don't know whose end this problem is on but hopefully this can be resolved with ease. Here is one of the errors I got in case it helps.

[d254f2fc3a13714f710e222d] 2018-07-21 21:22:26: Fatal exception of type "UnderflowException" --—The preceding unsigned comment was added by (talkcontribs) . Please sign your posts.

Thanks for bringing this to my attention. This was an issue with the captcha loading - It should be fixed now. --SgtLion (talk) 04:45, 22 July 2018 (MDT)
Is the additional puzzle from the device trying to make an account in place (what Blue Dragon added, see User talk:Blue Dragon#Your reCAPTCHA machine broke., among other discussions too.)? --Green Dragon (talk) 07:34, 22 July 2018 (MDT)
Oh yeah, dang spammers piling at the gates. The ConfirmEdit extension no longer supports the Proof-of-work puzzle, but the latest MediaWiki allows us to use NoCaptcha, which (theoretically) should stop ye spammers, and be a lot easier for our human users too. I've enabled that in place of our old system. We can see how it goes and tweak things further as needed. --SgtLion (talk) 08:23, 22 July 2018 (MDT)
Goshdang, aight. Tweaking it is. --SgtLion (talk) 08:46, 22 July 2018 (MDT)

Creating an account

All the account stuff works fine but how the hell does this weird number based captcha work? I type in the equation, then the problem and the equation, then space it out but none of it works. --—The preceding unsigned comment was added by 2600:387:b:f::b2 (talkcontribs) . Please sign your posts.

Yeah. It's a little complicated.. We will be working on a better solution. As per the instructions, you should put in the solution to the equation presented (i.e. search "43 xor 153" on DuckDuckGo, and put in the solution that comes up (178 in this example)). --SgtLion (talk) 05:53, 24 July 2018 (MDT)
As this thing is a real hassle, I've put in extra instructions for solving the captcha in the meantime. Hopefully we can sort a better system soony. --SgtLion (talk) 02:46, 1 August 2018 (MDT)


I don't think that templates like Template:Design Disclaimer are working right. Their information is no longer hidden. Same goes for 3.5e Campaign Settings, and similar pages. --Green Dragon (talk) 10:35, 27 July 2018 (MDT)

This is because the CSS classes 'collapsible' and 'colllapsed' have now been replaced with 'mw-collapsible' and 'mw-collapsed'. I've made the changes in Template:Design Disclaimer - I'll see if I can simply get my bot on replacing every instance, rather than manually going through tables ever-ee-where. --SgtLion (talk) 02:34, 28 July 2018 (MDT)
This reminded me to update my bot for the new API, which works beautifully~ I'm also glad I chose to use the bot because it turns out we have hundreds of tables with those tags. Y'arr, she'll get the job done. --SgtLion (talk) 04:20, 28 July 2018 (MDT)

Hi SgtLion. I cannot get my 5e homebrew creature to be "complete."

I just today created my very first homebrew creature for this website, the Angler Frog. I love it and wish to share it with others and that is why I put it on the website. Sadly, the website lists it as "incomplete" yet doesn't point out where I went wrong or what I am missing. This is naturally very frustrating because I put in the work but am missing something and I cannot tell what that something is. Nothing is highlighted in red or directly pointed to. Can you look over the page for the Angler Frog and either fix it for me or tell me exactly what is wrong with it? If you do fix it, will you tell me exactly where I went wrong so I don't make the same mistake in the future? Is there any reason why this website doesn't just give fields to fill in like any other website rather that the one big message box where you have to be careful where you are putting the information as if you are a computer programmer or still using MSDOS commands?—The preceding unsigned comment was added by Daskar (talkcontribs) . Please sign your posts.

I'm not SgtLion, but... When you edit the page, you'll notice this at the top:
{{stub|Incomplete. See the [[5e Creature Design Guide]] if you need help.}}
That's where the "incomplete" box is coming from. Remove that, and the incomplete box will be removed as well.- Guy (talk) 15:19, 28 July 2018 (MDT)
Indeed, the answer to your question is as Guy said. I understand you're frustrated, but this is how MediaWikis function, and most people do get a grip of the basic syntax fairly quickly. You can also find further help at our Help Portal, or you're welcome to ask again if you have any further issues. --SgtLion (talk) 09:51, 29 July 2018 (MDT)

Juggernaut (5e Class)

I have been trying to help balance and fix some of the abilities without destoying the classes flavor can someone look over what i have changed and point out some better ideas if they have them--Cryojoke (talk) 07:31, 30 July 2018 (MDT)cryojoke

Looking over the changes it seems the needs balance template at the top is still largely relevant. If you have read through the Class Do's and Don'ts then I would recommend reading some of the other DnD Guidelines we have available in the Help:Portal. Looking at the class up close the issue with the class is that it possesses several game-breakingly powerful bonuses compared to the first party content, understanding bounded accuracy is a good way to solve this and helps understand how strong some of these bonuses should be. The 5e Class Design Guide is also an excellent read for anything class related as it covers some of the fundamentals of the design process. You can also increase the quality of your article early on by using Referencing as well as abiding by the Help:When to Italicize and Capitalize. Creating a fulling working class comparable to first-party content, can take months or even years and is one of the hardest things to do as far as homebrew goes. Best of luck! —ConcealedLightChatmod.png (talk) 07:56, 30 July 2018 (MDT)
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