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Thanks for the greeting and the help on the multiple lock page. I haven't used it an encounter yet so i am really glad i could get some feedback from someone else instead of having to throw it against the characters and see how they react. Gelatinous sword (talk) 15:02, 28 August 2013 (MDT)

If you use it, let me know how it turns out! Marasmusine (talk) 15:47, 28 August 2013 (MDT)

Hello Maramusine, thank you for the welcome to the site! My only question is now, is if there is someone or some group I would contact for review on the power balancing of something I've been working on ( while it is either a WIP, or completed work ).--Elendra (talk) 09:32, 18 July 2012 (MDT)

If you're my best bet, might as well use you, eh? I don't suppose you could take a look at Color Bearer (4e Class) and Color Bearer Powers (4e Power List)? I assume they're at least somewhat poorly balanced, being my first attempt at making a class. And yes, they are both incomplete, but I did just start a couple days ago <_<;; --Elendra (talk) 09:42, 18 July 2012 (MDT)

Thank you very much in advanced! c: --Elendra (talk) 09:52, 18 July 2012 (MDT)

Hay, Marasmusine, could you review my homebrew template Unown inscribed sometime? I want to improve it, and you seem to know what youre doing, based on your review of my Stone of 100 Rencarnations (3.5e Equipment).--The lost unown (talk) 09:01, 27 September 2012 (MDT)

Sure, I'll aim to do that but I'm not sure when yet. Marasmusine (talk) 14:08, 27 September 2012 (MDT)

A thanks =[edit]

Hey, it's Ralcos. It's been a while since I've been here, but I must say thanks for you editing my race. I made the Modron Race that was on the 4e homebrew races, and found that my race was changed for the better (I'm not claiming credit for anyone else's work, and you can look on that page's history). I just wanted to thank you for the work. I love it more than the original design.

--- Ralcos

Smilodon Maioribus Review[edit]

Hello once again Marasmusine,

It has been a while since we have spoken but I believe (having reached my new permanent duty station) that now would be an excellent time to review the Smilodon Maioribus 4e Race once again, provided you are willing to do so and have the time to make such an effort. Unfortunately I am not entirely sure what, if at all, needs to be changed at this point with the race itself (the Apex Predator 4e Class itself I am intending to overhaul entirely, based on a few mechanics I learned from others who know of DnD in the armed forces).

As always, thank you for your time and dedication to DnD Wiki, and your efforts, past and present, in staying in touch and assisting me with my race and class design!

--Argent Fatalis (talk) 18:43, 9 August 2012 (MDT)

Welcome back! Since you were last here I've been a bit distracted with the birth of my daughter - I've not had much time for complicated things. For your Apex Predator overhaul, I recommend concentrating on one or two core mechanics that improve through the levels (and worry less about making lots of different powers); take a look at the Hunter or the Slayer from the Essentials books. Also try to focus on one role - I've seen too many custom classes that try to do defender/striker and end up in a mess. Hope that helps! Marasmusine (talk) 07:18, 10 August 2012 (MDT)
Thank you, Marasmusine, and most importantly, congratulations on the birth of your daughter to both you and your wife. I can certainly understand your crunch for time, especially with a newly born child around. For the Apex Predator class, that is still my intention of making a "specialist" class (with two separate, distinct sub-types), again focusing on criticals, grappling and stealth for its offensive "Vanquisher" variant, and with the "Challenger" deviation, a defender who relies on countering attacks and control. Seeing as the "Grabbed" and (knocked) "Prone" features work well, I have some ideas with them. I certainly don't intend for the Apex to be both, as I've begun making their choices fairly specific to each archetype.
--Argent Fatalis (talk) 17:34, 11 August 2012 (MDT)
Hello again Marasmusine,
I've made some significant changes to the Smilodon Maioribus race and the Apex Predator class, both of which I would love to get your opinion on when you have the time. I've tried to heavily relegate certain features to each subdivision of the Apex Predator class (to, in large part, make them two distinct portions). While the class design is not yet finished, it would be great to get your opinion on the re-working of a few mechanics that were present; for example, a primary mechanic of the Vanquisher is [[Seize (4e Power)|Seize], an attack that does minimal damage, but Grabs the opponent.
Other issues lie in the scaling (I've never played nor seen endgame DnD played), so I cannot truly balance the class over the levels. I like the idea of the Apex Predator fittingly being a "niche" class, or one that excels extremely well at a few select things, but relies on its companion's classes to really augment and benefit it, and vice-versa.
--Argent Fatalis (talk) 17:08, 18 August 2012 (MDT)
Hello Marasmusine,
I have just replied the design concept to the Saber Fangs and Razored Claws situation [Talk:Apex Predator (4e Class)|on this talk page] and would certainly like your opinion and possible solutions. Thank you very much for the modifications to those areas along with the Enduring Hide armor to make them more straightforward and simplified within 4E means!
--Argent Fatalis (talk) 14:33, 22 September 2012 (MDT)

As of writing this the Apex Predator class is more or less finished after a very, very long time of working on it; it received some major improvements over the initial version. Now it simply needs balance, and for that I need opinions. I think the overall mechanics (focusing on using Mortal Bite as a finishing move, attempting to set up lunges into grabs into high damage with debuffs cycle works well, has some interesting utility powers, some fairly strong weaknesses (lack of ranged, size, poor AC even with progression feature, and some genuinely fun features like True Instinct)). More or less, it needs someone's opinion to look at it in a "near complete stage" much like Tivanir did for Champion of the Ferine's final balancing and tuning. If you have time, I would be most thankful for your assessment and input.

--Argent Fatalis (talk) 17:47, 18 April 2013 (MDT)
Alrighty, good work, I'll examine it over the next few weeks and see if I can spot any balance issues. Marasmusine (talk) 02:07, 19 April 2013 (MDT)

Image Deletions[edit]

Wikipedia tells us to assume good faith. This means that images are assumed to be correct, ergo under the GNU FDL, when they state nothing in particular. This must be shown otherwise to allow the image to be deleted. --Green Dragon (talk) 16:03, 10 July 2012 (MDT)

Wikipedia absolutely does not assume good faith when it comes to image licensing. It gives 7 days to images without licensing/source information before they are deleted. Images that are clear copyright violations are instantly deleted. I gave File:Fight-2-color.jpg two weeks. We can't just copy images from the internet willy nilly. I've done a Google Image search for this image now and found that it's a painting under copyright by Simon Robert. I can replace the link in Shekastkoré (3.5e Campaign Setting) with an embedded image from Robert's webpage, with correct attribution. I'll leave it up to you if you want to delete the file or not. Marasmusine (talk) 02:06, 11 July 2012 (MDT)
Wow, sorry I came off sounding agressive. It was first thing in the morning and I hadn't had my coffee.Marasmusine (talk) 06:11, 11 July 2012 (MDT)
Okay, then with the deletion we should provide a link to where the image is thereby not allowed, don't you think that makes sense? Thoughts on making this policy? We can leave images since their pages being here inherently state that they are under the GNU FDL v1.3 when one cannot find such a site. --Green Dragon (talk) 09:35, 16 July 2012 (MDT)
Here are my thoughts:
  • We should make it clear that if you are uploading an image you need to say 1) Where you got the image from and who originally created it, and 2) What license it's under (note that we cannot use "fair use" for our purposes). For example, see Wikipedia's upload information. It's bad form to assume that an image doesn't have a copyright just because the uploader hasn't provided any information.
  • On the flipside, if I come to delete an image file because the above information is missing, I will make every effort to find an alternative compatible with our license, or embed the image from its original source. Marasmusine (talk) 03:47, 17 July 2012 (MDT)
By law, we do not need to do it like that so let's not. --Green Dragon (talk) 19:39, 17 July 2012 (MDT)
I need to get this straight. Here are the different kind of images we might use:
  • Copyrighted images. We cannot use these without permission. If we can get permission, the owner would normally ask us to attribute the them and show that it's under copyright. We can use copyright work without permission where there is fair-use (e.g. book covers where we are providing information about a book), but we still need to attribute the copyright holder.
  • Creative Commons[1]. We have to attribute the author; if it's Sharealike we have to release it under the same license.
  • Public Domain. We don't have to say anything: my argument is that it's good practice to provide some basic information (like I did here).
  • Images the uploader created themselves. It's up to them what information they provide. Personally I credit myself for my own images. As you say, unless stated otherwise, it defaults to the GNU license.
If I'm understanding you correctly, you want to assume that images fall into the last two categories?
No. All I was saying is that the last two categorizes exist. If we find information about copyright we should delete the page with a link to the copyright location (for verification purposes). If the images is under a different license then, though, all we need to do is state that on that page of course and if we can keep the image we can keep the image (depending on the license).
Another thing to note is that images which are product copyright can be here if they are small enough (pretty sure). I think that is another one of their image statements in the image-related laws. If they are too big, though, they are considered (even with the different copyright categories) to infringe on product copyright (since they are images I think is the reasoning). --Green Dragon (talk) 20:06, 18 July 2012 (MDT)
Thanks for the clarification. With regards product copyright, here's the legal wording for fair-use: "the fair use of a copyrighted work, including such use by reproduction in copies or phonorecords or by any other means specified by that section, for purposes such as criticism, comment, news reporting, teaching (including multiple copies for classroom use), scholarship, or research, is not an infringement of copyright."
Basically, we can use those images when we are providing educational information. On our wiki, this only our pages about books and other publications. We cannot use them for user-generated content. Marasmusine (talk) 01:27, 19 July 2012 (MDT)
I imagine that putting them into the D&D universe is a critique of those things from other sources and do apply for fair-use. --Green Dragon (talk) 16:42, 19 July 2012 (MDT)
I don't understand? Fair use through critique just means you can, say, use a picture of a book or toy if you are reviewing it. It has real-world context. Marasmusine (talk) 01:35, 20 July 2012 (MDT)
On a related note, I've spotted that WotC provide a list of WotC-copyright artwork that's been pre-approved for others to use.[2] Marasmusine (talk) 01:38, 20 July 2012 (MDT)
Not sure if my voice matters here, but I figure, if nothing else, it couldn't really hurt to speak up. Marasmusine is correct. Unless the purpose of the article within said images are used, is to critique the image, make a commentary on it, or otherwise review or parody it, then it does not fall under fair use. There are likely very few user generated articles and pages on this site that are dedicated to parody and review, for a commentary / educational stance. Now, for the handful wherein that IS true, than fair use would apply, but for those, such as a custom race, class, monster, campaign, that isn't actively done to review the image in some way, that isn't fair use, and permission / approval would be needed. If I were to take someone's image and put it up on a page I made, without their permission, and the image was used as an aid to help demonstrate something I had written in the page, that would be theft, unless they had otherwise stated that that image is perfectly allowed to be shared mercilessly without permission, but even then that would be limited to noncommercial things. Not that that should be a worry here. That said, the 'April Fools' articles may fall under being able to qualify 'fair use' if they are directly relevant to the image. --Elendra (talk) 09:08, 20 July 2012 (MDT)
That all sounds right to me. So I guess, sorry, those mario images were fine to delete.
Does the Image Deletion seem right on Candidates for Deletion? --Green Dragon (talk) 12:03, 21 July 2012 (MDT)


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I give you this barnstar for improving, reviewing, and removing a lot of pages. Thanks a lot for your help on those pages! --Green Dragon (talk) 09:35, 16 July 2012 (MDT)

Thanks! --Green Dragon (talk) 09:35, 16 July 2012 (MDT)

Page deleted due to Copy Rights Violation[edit]

You had deleted a page I had posted due to a copy rights violation. I was asked by a few friends in my area to post some things from the books and I was wondering it there is a way I can avoid this from occurring in the feature? Would a Legal Disclaimer at the bottom of the page stating it is from that particular book prevent this?

Thanks, --Korminor (talk) 23:23, 23 July 2012 (MDT)

We can't reprint content from copyrighted books. The only legal thing you can do is send them your book or ask them to aquire the book themselves. There's something else you can do involving a scanner, but I couldn't possibly comment on that. Marasmusine (talk) 01:34, 24 July 2012 (MDT)
Is there anyway to use anything from any of the D&D books? Would the Legal Disclaimer work? If not, how were any of the creatures posted from the Monster Manual, Dungeon Masters Guide, and Players Handbook?--Korminor (talk) 18:04, 24 July 2012 (MDT)
You can print material released under the Open Game Content. This includes WotC's System Reference Document[3] but doesn't include that class. The legal disclaimer won't work, WotC will still be unhappy that you've fleeced them out of a book sale. I'm also definitely not suggesting that your friend use a web search engine to search for the title of book that contains the class along with the words "scan" and "pdf". Marasmusine (talk) 01:08, 25 July 2012 (MDT)
If you have a chance, could you take a look at these pages. I am sure the Awaken Sand (3.5e Spell) is, but I am not sure of the Mogwai and Gremlin since they are based on movie creatures... Thanks... --Korminor (talk) 13:10, 28 July 2012 (MDT)
Yeah, the spell's got to go. Gremlin and Mogwai are not copyright violations, but the images used were copied from other sources. Marasmusine (talk) 01:49, 29 July 2012 (MDT)
Thanks... Want to give a creature a feat from a book, I am looking but can't seem to find the code for doing the small raised print for references to D&D books. Could you help with this? Thanks... --Korminor (talk) 10:53, 29 July 2012 (MDT)
Do you mean superscript? If you want to look like a pro, try User:Marasmusine/How To Use Footnotes (I don't think anyone's done it that way before, you could be the first!) Marasmusine (talk) 14:07, 30 July 2012 (MDT)
I wasn't thinking of Footnotes Marasumine's Guide... but that should work really nice together... Thanks :-D --Korminor (talk) 19:07, 30 July 2012 (MDT)

Deity Stats[edit]

I was interested in making a deity and wanted to actually make the stats. However I can't find the formula to use... I know that they are normally a 20HD outsider that have 30-50 Class levels. By that they should be a CR 40-60 depending on just that... But are there any other factors? Also Do they use the 15,14,13,12,10,8 Elite stat array?

--Korminor (talk) 20:51, 10 August 2012 (MDT)

About 5 years ago I sat down to create a 3.5e deity and discovered the same issue - no guideline on how to set the ability scores. However, if you are giving your deity PC class levels, it should the elite stat array; if it only has NPC class levels, use the nonelite array. Marasmusine (talk) 08:06, 11 August 2012 (MDT)
Can you check out this Deity and let me know what you think? Karura Goddess of The Burning Wastelands. I Used the Epic Stats, then Added the Stat upgrades for levels and feats. Then added the stat adjustments for items that she has that are listed. Her Challange rating is for her race + Her Class + her Divine Rank. --Korminor (talk) 19:50, 18 August 2012 (MDT)

Traps (jerden asking)[edit]

I was just wondering if there was a way to change the title of my traps that still don't have (4e Trap) on them. I could copy them to new pages with (4e trap) on, but that won't really help anyone as it still will have the old ones. If it's something I can't do I'm sorry, in future I'll remember to add (4e Trap) to my (4e Trap)s! Anyway, I reacon I've wrote it enough time to remember now!

Hi Jerden, you can use the "Move" tab at the top of the screen. Also you can sign your posts using four tildes (~~~~). Thanks again for your contributions - converting the 3.5e DMG traps to 4e was on the back burner of my to-do list. You may also like to look at some of the changes I made to your entries for formatting standards, etc. Marasmusine (talk) 01:48, 8 September 2012 (MDT)
Thanks. I'll sort them out. Anyway, I apprieciate your changes, I was actually hoping someone would do that. And I haven't really done that many of the 3.5 edition traps, I mostly just converted spells into traps (it's much easier). I'll probobly do more later once I can borrow the player handbook and possibly the monster manual. Jerden (talk) 12:38, 8 September 2012 (MDT)

Sand Elemental Page Deletion[edit]

In reguards to the Sand Elemental page, I was trying to do the same set up as the SRD Elementals. Was this in error doing this set-up or was it just a waist for time? --Korminor (talk) 15:18, 25 September 2012 (MDT)

Hi Korminor, actually your original formatting was fine. But I'm aiming to have the sand elementals formatted in the same way as what I've done to Chaos Elemental, Lesser (3.5e Creature) and Chaos Elemental, Greater (3.5e Creature). The reason for this is that I've made a new index of creatures at User Creatures, but the table gets screwed up if there's more than one creature template in a page. The creature template itself can display 3 creatures, so that's a maximum of 3 creatures per page - hence me splitting the creatures into "Lesser" and "Greater" pages. It's not ideal - I'd rather have them all on one page - but it's the only fix I can think of to make the index work.
What I can do, if you think it's appropriate, is keep Sand Elemental as an overview page, so long as it doesn't contain a creature template. Marasmusine (talk) 15:36, 25 September 2012 (MDT)
Also, I never did give you a reply re: Karura (3.5e Deity). So let me say this - in my opinion this is what all 3.5e deity pages should look like. Well formatted, well written, fully statted out. I couldn't tell you if any of the numbers are off though, but it looks like you've been careful and thorough. 15:55, 25 September 2012 (MDT)
I would like to keep the Sand Elemental page as an overview page. I was planning on adding a bit to it on their history (Been a little busy with daughter starting school). Also thanks for the comments on Karura (3.5e Deity). I started with the elite stats, then gave the increases for the levels gained (20 outsider + 30 Sandbender), then added the items used. Thanks again, --Korminor (talk) 17:32, 25 September 2012 (MDT)

Tiberium Rising Editing[edit]

Hey, I'm still working on the pages. If you are going to move the pages, at least leave a redirect. Thanks --Yossarian (talk) 14:34, 28 September 2012 (MDT)

I usually do, I guess today I did it the other way to see what the reaction would be. So there we go. But why did you move it back? Now it has the incorrect title again. 16:24, 28 September 2012 (MDT)

Billhook Revert[edit]

Hi, we've not really met. I'm Badger, and I'm an admin who has been away for a while. Either way, we can chat more about that later, if you'd like. This message is to explain why I reverted your edits to the billhook. The page that existed before you changed it was essentially a complete page, with mechanics and a concept. Maybe the concept needs work, and the balance sure needs some attention, but it was at least a fully fleshed out idea. Your edits reduced it to little more than a re-direct. If you are going to fundamentally change a page like you did, you might as well delete it entirely, and just redirect other pages away from it. I'm open to discussion on this point, but my understanding is that we don't try to serve as an encyclopedia, but rather as a reserve of actual content. To clarify that point, any article we have should have in-game mechanics, and not simply redirect a user to another page. Let me know how you feel about this, and I look forward to working with you in the future. --Badger (talk) 11:57, 5 October 2012 (MDT)

Price Calculation Check[edit]

Would you mind checking to see if I got the math correct for calculating the Market Price for Helm of Korminor for me please? I want to know if i'm doing it correct? --Korminor (talk) 18:54, 22 October 2012 (MDT)

Sure, I'll check it out fairly soon. Marasmusine (talk) 02:10, 24 October 2012 (MDT)

Hobbit vs. Halfling[edit]

I'm aware that WotC uses the term Halfling to fill in for what is most assuredly a Hobbit. I was wondering if you know of any legal reason that would force this, or if we are free to use the term Hobbit without permission from the Tolkien Estate. I guess I'm just trying to stay out of trouble, but at the same time vastly prefer to use Hobbit. In the same line of thinking, we can use Orc even though Tolkien made that one up as well... --Pyper 23oct12

Whilst the Tolkien Estate aggressively protect their trademark over the word "hobbit", I've only seen it happen in the cases where products are being sold. The worst that can happen is that we'll be asked to remove the page. Add a legal disclaimer at the bottom stating that the term is trademarked. Marasmusine (talk) 02:30, 24 October 2012 (MDT)


On some pages you have been removing Category:DnD. This category is there so D&D is separated from D20 Modern and such organizations are possible. 4e is not "new" in the sense of not having a need for Category:DnD, but rather it has not yet been added there because of the dpl's on the 3.5e pages. Unless I am missing something, please keep Category:DnD on all D&D pages. --Green Dragon (talk) 13:19, 25 October 2012 (MDT)

Since the "4e" and "3.5e" categories are sub-categories of "DnD", it seemed to me that having both was redundant. I can't see any crossovers with "D20M", it is still separate. Maybe I'm missing something. Can you give me an example of where it is causing a problem? (Also noting the reorganization I proposed at Talk:Main_Page#Categories.) Marasmusine (talk) 15:21, 25 October 2012 (MDT)
The only disadvantage to that is that is that one has to generate a dpl for all things D&D, but that still might be okay with the publication's categories anyway and not too important huh. --Green Dragon (talk) 22:42, 25 October 2012 (MDT)
I will steadily update the dpls; I had already rewrote the 3.5 weapons index... just spotted that User Magical Rings for example needs to specify 3.5e. It will all work once I've finished pratting around (next year at this rate!) Marasmusine (talk) 13:52, 26 October 2012 (MDT)

Template deletion[edit]

My author template page Template:Author Gaelhalee as well as Mkills Template:Author Mkill was deleted without any explanation that I could find. I give some history about it in User_talk:Gaelhalee. Please respond there.

Quick Question[edit]

Regarding community additions to unfinished content, how should I deal with a power that was added by a third party which does not really fit with my class or my design intents? Should I restructure their post as I see fit or notate a different design intent or what? My initial judgment was to change the "|class=" notation in the power, but I'm unsure if doing so would be a violation of some sort. --Biral (talk) 16:08, 13 November 2012 (MST)

We could rewrite it for your class, rewrite it for another class (Wizard, say), or propose it for deletion (see Deletion Candidates). Which power is it? Marasmusine (talk) 01:06, 14 November 2012 (MST)
It's Freezing Blast, added by, the same user that made that rather overpowered Humans Unyielding Training (4e Feat) that you posted on nigh two months ago. I don't think I'll keep the name, so I'd just as soon flag it for deletion. --Biral (talk) 15:50, 14 November 2012 (MST)

D&D 4.0 Future Oni Class[edit]

Vanilla 4e? I don't know what that even is. The thing is, is that Enchantment bonuses should not be implemented, because, hey, this is the future. I don't plan for D&D 4e Future to deviate from D&D 4e at all. Just adding to it. I posted this reply here because I haven't been on for... two months or something longer and figured that you wouldn't see a reply in my talk section. But yes, balancing would be wonderful for all of my creations. --Axl (talk) 16:48, 15 November 2012 (MST)

Actually, never mind. I'm never on D&D Wiki anymore. Feel free to delete my sourcebook and all items therein. You can probably just delete my profile as well. --Axl (talk) 17:09, 15 November 2012 (MST)
By vanilla D&D, I mean D&D as written in the PHB and DMG. A lot of your entries might work in the context of the Future setting, but they don't work in normal 4e D&D. That's why I was changing some of the categorization. Sorry to hear that you are leaving, let me know if you ever feel like collaborating on something. Marasmusine (talk) 17:26, 15 November 2012 (MST)
Oh, okay.
Yeah, my entries work for future, but there are currently no settings in the future that would be compatible with my works.
All right. I'll let you know if I do feel like collaborating. --Axl (talk) 18:33, 16 November 2012 (MST)

Guardian of Erberus[edit]

Hey, Marasmusine. I was looking on the Barbed Devil race and noticed that the Guardian of Erberus page shows the feat as Barbed Claws. Shall I fix it? --PokeLinkEs (talk) 07:21, 20 November 2012 (MST)

Well spotted, that's a cut and paste error. I'll fix it, thanks. Marasmusine (talk) 10:23, 20 November 2012 (MST)

Copyright Question[edit]

Right so how do I tell what's copywritten and what's not? I'm looking at one of the images I uploaded and nowhere on it does it say it's copywritten. I'm not trying to argue or say that you're wrong b/c I have no doubt you are correct. I just want to know how to tell in the future. Thanks! --Ixidor (talk) 13:12, 20 November 2012 (MST)

With your specific images, I dragged them into Google Images (on a hunch, since they looked professionally produced) and quickly traced them back to their original artist or publisher. If the source doesn't specifically say what kind of license it has, you can assume its under copyright (and that's the case for almost any image you find at random on the internet). On a more positive note, if you've traced it back to somewhere like deviantArt or Flickr, you can at least ask the copyright holder if you can get permission to use it.
As I say, you can always embed an external image (if the source site allows it). Here's an example from Tomasz Jedruszek's portfolio:
Vale Pact 2 by Tomasz Jedruszek
If you do this, it's courtesy to attribute the artist. On the downside, you can't resize the image. Hope that helps. Marasmusine (talk) 14:20, 20 November 2012 (MST)

Oh man that helps a lot! I'll probably start using embedded external images then, assuming I can get them smaller. Most of my stuff comes from DeviantArt, CG Society, or StumbleUpon so that shouldn't be an issue. Thanks a ton! --Ixidor (talk) 14:50, 20 November 2012 (MST)

I use Flickr a lot, since most images there will provide you with a link for a resized image under "Share" (although there's less fantasy art there than at other places). Marasmusine (talk) 14:52, 20 November 2012 (MST)

Thanks for the Help![edit]

Thank you for your help. Would you mind telling me of what you think about the campaign?

Thanks again!

--Yossarian (talk) 16:34, 23 November 2012 (MST)

Sure, I'll check when I next get chance. Marasmusine (talk) 04:06, 27 November 2012 (MST)

For what reason did you delete the Dragonslayer sword? Its hardly the same as the Fullblade[edit]

Why'd you delete the Dragonslayer Sword for 3.5? It is not exactly like the fullblade whatssoever, it does a great deal more damage, gives extra feats, not to mention the fact that its both a bludgeon and slashing weapon. There is alot more "unexplained" equipment on the site then that sword. So please don't delete stuff people actually think is cool, because now im going to have a harder time getting my DM the stats for the sword so I can get it in game.

When you are including in your campaign mundane non-magical weapon that grants 4 bonus feats, an unexplained +8 bonus damage on top of excessive damage die and a 18-20/x4 crit, you've gone beyond normal game balance and may as well just make up the stats yourself. It's better than most of the more powerful magical weapons in the game, at a fraction of the cost, except, hey, you can enchant the dragonslayer as well. Oh, it had 5' and 10' reach as well like a spiked chain, egads. Sorry, it was objectively terrible.
However, if you like, I can restore the page to your userspace if you still wish to access it.Marasmusine (talk) 04:01, 27 November 2012 (MST)

I would really appreciate it, yes its true, it is somewhat overpowered, but my character is also at a neg 3 level multiplier and the additional feats will definitely help level the playing field. I currently play a lvl. 3 Half-Dragon Fighter that specializes in two handed large weapons and the ECL is 6, so the Dragonslayer is the perfect fit. Currently my group and I are fighting against incrediably powerful enemies that are a CR 20 roughly and currently I can't compete in deeps with either the Barbarian or the Rogue so I need something to level the playing field. Plus I assume that most characters dont have the strength reqs. that the sword needs right off the bat like I do (28 Str, with my lowest mod being +3). But if you could get me the prior info it would really be appreciated. Thank you.

Sorry I didn't reply straight away. Someone has posted (an even more ridiculous) version here: DragonSlayer Sword (3.5e Equipment). It really makes no sense whatsoever and I reiterate that you may as well make up the stats yourself. Have it do 5d20 + 100 damage, but hey, you can "balance" that by setting the Strength requirement to whatever your strength happens to be. Marasmusine (talk) 02:52, 12 December 2012 (MST)

Deleting abandoned unrated, 1/5, and 2/5 Campaign settings[edit]

One thing I've noticed about the Campaign settings section is that there are a ton of frankly worthless clutter. Most of the 1/5 pages haven't been worked on since 2010 or 2009 and I suspect a lot of the 2/5 ones are the same (mine is there right now I know but I am constantly working on it). Can a lot of those old, abandoned stubs be deleted? Can I do it myself or does it have to be an admin? I suggest everything up to 2/5 because I suspect pages that made it to 3/5 have a lot of useful stuff in them although some of them could probably go too. My main point here is that is the Campaign Settings section is meant to be a resource for the DM community out there, then it really should be a useful one. I feel like people miss a lot of the good stuff that is there because of all the clutter. Just a thought, not trying to be pushy or rude to the people who started those pages. --Ixidor (talk) 22:27, 27 November 2012 (MST)

Over the year I've already deleted a bunch - ones that have been clearly abandoned and have either barely any content, or content that is uninspiring. You're probably correct that there's more to be pruned. If you feel that a campaign stub can't be improved upon, add "{{delete|~~~~~|Your reasons}}" and I'll review it in 2 weeks. If you think the campaign has an interesting seed that someone might potentially add to, add "{{abandoned|~~~~~}}" and we give it a year before deleting it. Each setting needs checking individually (rather than sweeping the whole 1/5, 2/5 category under the carpet :) Thank-you for any help in this matter. Marasmusine (talk) 01:28, 28 November 2012 (MST)
Roger and thanks. I'd been adding the "{{abandoned|~~~~~}}" tag to any that were stubs and not touched in over a year and that was just about all of them (1/5-2/5). I'll go back through and add in the "{{delete|~~~~~|Your reasons}}" tag to those that are pretty useless. Also of the ones that are 1/5-2/5 and do have useful stuff (but still aren't stand alone), could some sort of campaign setting tools or ideas page be put together? Cause there are some with useful stuff in these categories, just not nearly enough to be stand alone. --Ixidor (talk) 07:46, 28 November 2012 (MST)
A "campaign seeds" page would be a good idea, if the entries aren't bigger than one or two paragraphs (or can be trimmed down). Marasmusine (talk) 11:46, 28 November 2012 (MST)

You've deleted one the most iconic swords in the history of gaming. Why???[edit]

The Buster Sword has long been an awesome force in the gaming community. I don't ask that you bring the page back, but just forward me the details that were on the page. I'd raised my concerns when you proposed deleting the page, frivolously, and also failed to make copy-pasta out of it :(

You can find what the page used to be here. It wasn't very good, and had been nominated for deletion since October. No one brought up any objection to the deletion, and so it was axed. As a general rule, I don't undelete things, and this isn't content worth having on the site, as far as I am concerned. The reason it was deleted is because it wasn't different enough than the full blade to warrant it's own page. If you'd like to make your own version of the sword that is demonstrably different than the fullblade, it might just stick around. --Badger (talk) 18:11, 11 December 2012 (MST)

I've made a new version, a little hurriedly mind you, and I hope it's up to par.


I have noticed that when I have returned from my second hiatus, that you have deleted my custom class that I'm still working on again. Can I ask you to 'undelete' it? Pyjamalama (talk) 12:36, 13 December 2012 (MST)

Done! Would you like it moved to your user space? That way you can work on it over any period of time and it won't get caught on one of my "propose deletion" patrols. Marasmusine (talk) 13:02, 13 December 2012 (MST)
Yeah. That would be great... but I don't know how to do that. Pyjamalama (talk) 16:42, 13 December 2012 (MST)

I was working on an abandoned page and it was deleted today. Can it be un-deleted or am I starting over? The Page was scrapper. I put a lot of my free time into working on fixing it to have it disappear on me. 11:06, 23 March 2013

Help, please.[edit]

I would like your help regarding one matter, I don't know how to make multiple pages of equipment connect to each other.(making them an item set.) Could you help me with that? Pyjamalama (talk) 15:51, 14 December 2012 (MST)

Make each item using the preload(s) at Add New 3.5e Equipment. Then all you need to do it put something like this after the description on each page:
==Blah Item Set==
This item is part of the Blah item set. The other items in this set are:
*Helm of Blah (3.5e Equipment)
*Sandals of Blah (3.5e Equipment)
If you are wearing 2 items in the set, then this this and this. If you are wearing 3 items in the set, then blah blah blah.
Would that do it? Marasmusine (talk) 16:29, 14 December 2012 (MST)
Yes, thank you. Pyjamalama (talk) 04:53, 15 December 2012 (MST)

Section Adoption[edit]

I was talking to User:Sabre070 Via Email and have gotten permission to take over his Mechs (3.5e Other) and related pages. However I noticed that I can not access the Add New Mech Equipment, related templates and other pages. Is there a way that I can be able to edit these? --Korminor (talk) 17:46, 29 December 2012 (MST)

I have rescinded the protection on Add New Mech Equipment and the two associated preloads. If there are others, please provide me the link. Have fun, Marasmusine (talk) 02:02, 30 December 2012 (MST)


I wanted to thank you for helping edit my assorted contributions. The notifications keep pulling me back to this wiki. I also thank you for the Barnstar; it means a lot to me. --Salasay Δ 06:01, 19 January 2013 (MST)

Helpers Page[edit]

I wanted your feedback on an idea I'm discussing with Green Dragon. I want to make a list of people who can be contacted by other users to help with any issues or questions that they might have. Inclusion would involve putting a Category on your homepage, like for example [[Category:Helper]] or [[Category:Barnstar]]. The discussion is here. My proposed page can be found here. I'm the only one on it, but once it is done we can advertise it on the main page or send people messages. Any help would be appreciated. --Salasay Δ 08:12, 26 January 2013 (MST)

Replied on Green Dragons page.--Salasay Δ 13:21, 29 January 2013 (MST)

Champion of the Ferine[edit]

Hello Marasmusine,

It has been some time since we had last spoken (primarily about Sentient, Smilodon Maioribus and the Apex Predator class), however a twist of fate has more or less left me in a position among a group of avid 3.5e players (two of which are min/max'ers, and all of which have at minimum 5 years experience with the system). Having played a few campaigns of 3.5e, they made mention of testing and developing homebrew classes, which I was already marginally familiar with from the wikia here; one of the most experienced individuals is monitoring and editing the progression of the homebrew Champion of the Ferine, adding suggestion, balance and functionality. Much of the design is based on the unofficial tiering system (put together by a notable min/max player, JaronK, regarding the relative "strength" of classes and characters in 3.5e on a near case by case basis as to how powerful they are by design). Provided you yourself are a very knowledgeable source on all things D&D, I again would love your input on the Champion of the Ferine's current design and viability; if you are familiar with JaronK's tiering concept, the Champion of the Ferine is designed to land in the high Tier 3, nearly Tier 2. Currently the most major component incomplete is the spell list, but it is worth noting it will be utility focused (spells such as Dispell Magic, Fly, etc) and not directly offensively focused.

As always, thank you for the time.

--Argent Fatalis (talk) 04:14, 4 February 2013 (MST)
Hi Argent, nice to hear from you. My ability to check 3.5e classes for balance is limited, having not played that version in a long time. Marasmusine (talk) 04:31, 4 February 2013 (MST)
Likewise, Marasmusine, its good to hear from you and see all the activity and work you've put into the site.
That's perfectly understandable; any assistance at all, from formatting to wording, if you note any errors or conflicts in functions, I would appreciate your input and opinion. Continued, as someone outside the primary development of this class I would love to know your opinion alone and any questions at all that might arise; just so that I can attempt to rework certain issues and make it a more legitimate (almost official) design.
--Argent Fatalis (talk) 04:37, 4 February 2013 (MST)
Oki doki :) Marasmusine (talk) 04:38, 4 February 2013 (MST)
Thank you for the assessment, Marasmusine; all issues brought up were thematic choices for the sort of Paladin-Druid design, and a sort of minor focusing and balancing to some extent (along with the novelty and unusuality). All matters you brought up could be resolved in a supplement (with Alternate Class Features) at a later date, as I am certainly desiring to build other classes along a similar theme to this one and experiment with them in various 3.5e games.
--Argent Fatalis (talk) 15:40, 5 February 2013 (MST)

Imagery Is Important To Dracomancers[edit]

Not everyone on D&D wiki is dedicated enough to find beautiful pictures depicting their custom races and classes. I spent hours and hours finding and working images into my page that can bring my class to life for reader just like published D&D handbooks do. I believe the pictures are as important to depicting my class as the stats and attack powers are. Not every page has beautiful imagery so please do not remove it from mine.


Fine, I'll tag the page as unfinished until you can find images that are small enough to be aligned to the right of the screen. Marasmusine (talk) 01:26, 12 February 2013 (MST)

Shadow Hunter[edit]

Hello it's me it ghost boy Willie to thank you very much for the input that you gave on what was supposed to happen in 4e appreciate I was wondering however could you take a look at what might shadow Hunter class And what he could use? Thank you that would be very kind if you could do that

I'm afraid I can't make head nor tails of that class. In my opinion there's almost no need to create a new 4e class unless you have a really strong concept that none of the existing official classes can cover. You could just make a blackguard or a cleric with leanings towards stealth. Marasmusine (talk) 13:01, 16 February 2013 (MST)
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