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Hello, to leave me a new message, click on the "+" tab just above. Marasmusine (talk) 07:05, 5 June 2016 (MDT)



hay Mr marasmusine i read that for a price you can fix up a class and bring it up to standards and your the one who responded to me when i asked about a certain class. i have no idea who made it or if there gonna finish it at all but i really like the class mostly cus i plan to use it for a D@D am going to be joining and i wished to ask if it was possible for me to pay for you to bring it up to standards because our DM said no unfinished classes. The class was the arcane puppeteer. Thank you for a moment of your time Shadowthehero

I will take a look! Marasmusine (talk) 01:43, 19 November 2016 (MST)

Thank you Kindly i do enjoy the changes you made to the class thus far i hope you got the donation first time using pay pal lol ..anyway thanks so much i cant wait to see what the finished class will look like only hope is that you keep the become a living puppet thing at the end ..was my favorite part anyway thanks mr marasmuine

I'll make sure that feature stays in (in some form!). Donation received, thank-you. I will work on it some more today. Marasmusine (talk) 01:17, 22 November 2016 (MST)

Hay me once more i just have one question about repairing the puppets. Is it a bit prices if am reading it right and if am not please do correct me ..for ever single point of health you want repaired you need to spend the gold so by the time we get a legendary version late game were insane amounts of damage are taken wouldn't it take like tons and tons of gold to even repair a single point of damage?

I'm out by a factor of 10. Will adjust now. Marasmusine (talk) 01:26, 25 November 2016 (MST)

Sorcerer, Variant[edit]

I think that the Sorcerer, Variant should be moved from the archetypes list because it isn't actually an archetype, but I'm not sure where to move it to. Classes, perhaps? SirSprinkles (talk) 00:15, 20 November 2016 (MST)

5e Class Feature Variants; remove everything that's duplicated from the original sorcerer and just show what has changed. Marasmusine (talk) 02:12, 20 November 2016 (MST)

Chosen Undead Race[edit]

I was wondering if there is a way to un-delete the page in my subject? that was deleted by you.

Okay, it's now back at Chosen Undead (5e Race). It will need some improvement! Marasmusine (talk) 02:09, 22 November 2016 (MST)

Thank you so much, will definitely get to working!

Template Help[edit]

You've been active on here for some time, so do you know anything about making templates and tables and the like? If not, do you know someone who might be able to help me? I created a navbox that goes at the bottom of some pages, and until now, I thought it worked fine, but it won't display more than 5 columns at once. I took a look at the template, but I can't see what's wrong.--GamerAim (talk) 17:53, 22 November 2016 (MST)

So If I look at something like OGC:Barbarian of the North (3.5e Class), at the bottom there's a list of feats... you want these arranged into columns, and you want six (or more) ? Marasmusine (talk) 03:13, 23 November 2016 (MST)
I realized what the "problem" was last night while in bed. I changed the template to try and fix the problem, when I realized that one of the columns in the example was missing. It was missing because it was empty because there are no transcribed spells yet! I just tested it, and it seems to be working properly >_>
I still seem to be having issues, though. OGC:Restraints (3.5e Variant Rule) has a navbox that isn't displaying, well, anything. After some testing, it appears that the dpl is at fault, and won't output a page that it's already on. I never noticed before, but it comes up because there's only one variant rule, so it comes up empty and never displays. Do you know how/if I can fix this, or know someone else who might know? IDK why a dpl wouldn't list a page that it's on :/--GamerAim (talk) 06:29, 23 November 2016 (MST)
I did take a quick look after your first message, but I'm poorly at the moment and the code was just spinning in my head. Marasmusine (talk) 06:35, 23 November 2016 (MST)
Don't worry, it turns out "skipthispage=no" is all it needed. Thanks :)--GamerAim (talk) 06:44, 23 November 2016 (MST)

5e Crystalline[edit]

A couple of players in my group suggested Crystal Explosives and Crystal Clubs. I ruled the explosive had the power of a gunpowder bomb but I have no clue how to rule on the clubs. They want the club to be a 1 use Instant Kill weapon.--Redrum 16:56, 23 November 2016 (MST)

You could make it work like a melee power word kill scroll, same rarity and what not but you can't use it to learn the spell and well it's melee rather than ranged. And it's probably the closest thing to an "Instant Kill" that's currently in 5e --Aitharious (talk) 20:54, 23 November 2016 (MST)
It depends on if they are going to magic or mundane. I can't recommend a mundane one-hit-kill weapon. A magic weapon would work much like Aitharious suggest. It can instantly kill a creature who has less than a certain amount of HP (depending on its rarity), and shatters when it does so. I can full stat this out if you like.
I can imagine a mundane variant working like the primitive weapons in 4e Dark Sun: If you roll a 1 on an attack roll with a crystal club, you can re-roll the attack, but the weapon breaks after the attack.
The club (as described by the players) is supposed to be made out of some form of quasi-magical crystal found in an ruined Alchemist's laboratory. --Redrum 15:29, 26 November 2016 (MST)
Give them the crystal. If they can figure out a way to carve EXPLOSIVE CRYSTALS into a club without blowing themselves up, they deserve it. Sometimes you show tough love to your players. I'm guessing after enough failed attempts they will succeed (though bruised, burned and battered) and they'll feel some sort of accomplishment. Maybe they can go on a quest to figure out how to do it? On the other hand if anyone of them tries to take the easy route and pull the "I give it to an expert of explosive crystal carving I just happen to know" let them do that, but have the laboratory explode and have them go on a quest to pay for the damages. Afterwards they can get a bit of the crystal that didn't explode in the lab. If you want to limit the instant kill, you could always add collateral damage to the weirder as well killing them, and have it so heavy throwing it is difficult (but not impossible, nothing's impossible in d and d). Give it to them if they want it, but make 'em work for it. :D --Balthazar (talk) 15:45, 26 November 2016 (MST)

Epic NPC CRs[edit]

Yo yo, the great one who is 'musine to my ears. Hopefully I'm not edit conflicting you right now, (though 'back' luckily solves all). I'm kind of having a conflict with the DMG's words over at my Tulock Pry (3.5e NPC). Darkzumi pointed out to me that the DMG states an NPC's CR is equal to normal class levels + any templates. Which would make Poor ol' Tulock's CR 27. Well, 4 level 27 adventurers would tear him to shreds in a matter of moments. Should I have to put down the CR as the DMG commands it, or approximate what the actual CR should be? I'd kind of argue that DMG CR guidelines at least don't apply to epic levels. --SgtLion (talk) 03:26, 24 November 2016 (MST)

At the time, I did double check my DMG, and it did indeed say that class levels + template = CR. I can't say I'm surprised that things break down at epic.
DMG p. 49 says that an encounter level equal to the PCs level should expend about 20% of their resources (HP, spells, etc). So, is this the case?
Don't consider the NPC on its own (single monster encounters aren't great for determining CR).
So consider an EL 29 fight with two identical Tulock Prys, or an EL 31 fight with four Prys (or other appropriate mix. A SRD:Hagunemnon + Pry would make EL 30.
Would a single Pry make a "very difficult" EL 27 fight for a party of four at level 25?
If the above examples give you less than the expected 20% resource expenditure, then the CR needs adjusting.
But, leave the "technical" CR of 27 in the category and lead (huh, at the moment it says CR 20?), and have a "design note" section at the bottom explaining the recommended CR. Marasmusine (talk) 02:37, 27 November 2016 (MST)
Aye, it's CR 20 at the moment because of confusion on my part. Alright, I'll make it officially CR 27, fair point though, I guess 2 or 3 Prys would make a decent proper fight for an ECL 27 party, I guess I'll note it in some way. Thanks very much for the input! --SgtLion (talk) 08:41, 29 November 2016 (MST)


I was wondering if there was any way to redirect this to this, just so there would be a path back to the main campaign setting from the sub pages instead of just a black category page. Thanks in advance! --Balthazar (talk) 15:22, 26 November 2016 (MST)

Never mind, I realized what I messed up on. Thanks anyway. :D --Balthazar (talk) 22:06, 26 November 2016 (MST)

3.5 edits for magazine[edit]

If you're keeping the 3.5 material for the wiki magazine I'd be glad to review/edit it. I've DMed using 3.5 for years and still own all my 3.5 books. Multiple people have told me I'm very knowledgeable of the 3.5 rules.

Yes! Please! You'll be credited as a sub-editor. There's what's listed at D&D Wiki Magazine/Issue 4#3e, but this is only from a cursory search of the wiki. There may be some good stuff in Category:Ooze Type or related search terms. Marasmusine (talk) 01:46, 28 November 2016 (MST)

Page Edit[edit]

Hey, there. So I was checking in on some of my work, as I haven't been able to for a while due to college being a priority and it looks like my pages were tampered with. Someone put a notice on one of my page saying that it'd been abandoned and that they had tried to contact me. Neither of these statements are or were true. They stated that it hadn't been worked on in a year, which is untrue. I don't know the best way to go about reporting someone for this, but this is their IP address: I'm sorry for the bother, but I'm not fond of people altering my pages without contacting me or for anything that's not a minor edit, such as a spelling or grammatical change, and I even wrote in the editing section of the template for people to only make those kinds of edits. This person did not.

They edited these two pages:,_Variant_2_(3.5e_Class) --Sage of Souls (talk) 11:29, 1 December 2016 (MST)

First Angels[edit]

How do you go about "absorbing Quintessence"? Is this something to do with the Immortal's Handbook? What is the "warp touch" disease? And something about helium balloons?.

Yes this uses the Immortals Handbook, Quintessence is covered in there. "Warp Touch" can be found in the "Book of Darkness" and I fixed the thing about helium balloons. That was stupid I agree.
If it isn't in a core book, please create a reference (you could be fancy and use footnotes) Marasmusine (talk) 15:54, 21 July 2016 (MDT)
How would I go about creating a reference? Is it like a bibliography in that I leave a list of books used, or should I just include brief descriptions of what I've referenced (Quintessence)? Also the Book of Vile Darkness is core so I don't think I need to reference it but immortals handbook isn't and doesn't seem to have a page on this site either so I'm not really sure how to reference it other than just saying "yeah, I used it" or leaving a link to somewhere off site.
The simplest way would to be just put the book name (in parenthesis). Or you can make a footnote with a superscript number <sup>1</sup>. Or you can use <ref>reference here</ref> then put </references> somewhere.
The core books are DMG, PHB and MM. It's assumed you have those in order to play the game. Anything outside those need a reference so people know where to look. Marasmusine (talk) 02:17, 1 December 2016 (MST)

3.5e pseudonatural[edit]

The 3.5e DM of the group is looking for the Blood & Tome version of the Pseudonatural Creature template. --Redrum 17:43, 30 November 2016 (MST)

I don't know what that is. Marasmusine (talk) 02:22, 1 December 2016 (MST)
Tome and Blood was not released under the OGL, so if the template is not in the SRD, it cannot be reproduced from the book. Sorry :(--GamerAim (talk) 07:33, 3 December 2016 (MST)

5e Plot Hook[edit]

Is it possible to use an encyclopedia(26 books, 650gp, 130lb.) to self-teach a skill proficiency? --Redrum 17:53, 30 November 2016 (MST)

I imagine you could use it Training downtime activities (PHB p. 187) but that's just for languages or tool proficiencies. The only "core rules" way of learning a new skill (that I know of) is to multiclass or take a feat. Marasmusine (talk) 02:22, 1 December 2016 (MST)

5e Shieldman Archetype[edit]


you straight up deleted the "shieldman" archetype page. you didnt even move it to "unfinished archetypes" section yet you put in as a reason for the deletion of the page was that the archetype has "not enough information/seems unfinished".

now the problem with that is that i am using this archetype on my current character and do not have all the abilities copy-pasted.

so i would greatly appreciate if you could go ahead and restore the article and maybe even move it to the "unfinished" section.

thanks :)

p.s.: my next games tonight so i would be even more grateful if that could happen very soon

No, I didn't "straight up delete" it. It had had a deletion proposal message on it since the 19th of November, placed there by its principle author who had decided to abandon it. We wait 2 weeks before removing a page.
However, I will restore the page since you're using it and all that, maybe you can improve it. Marasmusine (talk) 11:28, 4 December 2016 (MST)

much appreciated, also right on time :D

Deletion of Temmie Race[edit]


Excuse me, i after reading the above post, i see that my rage was...immature. However, i must ask you why you deleted it, as i had not finished and uploaded it yet and there it could not have been a candidate for deletion.

I deleted it because it was incomprehensible nonsense to the point of vandalism. Marasmusine (talk) 08:47, 7 December 2016 (MST)
You've started the page again, so I will assume good faith and see how it develops. Marasmusine (talk) 08:48, 7 December 2016 (MST)

Naming Cleric Domains[edit]

I'm a bit confused as to whether 3.5e cleric domains should be named Example Domain (3.5e Cleric Domain) or Example (3.5e Cleric Domain)? Would you happen to know, or should I ask GD and wait for him to respond?--GamerAim (talk) 19:59, 7 December 2016 (MST)

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