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Shadow Knight (5e Class)[edit]


I saw your critiques of another users modifications to Shadow_Knight_(5e_Class) and I wished to try and salvage what had become an overpowered and unbalanced mess. I would love your critique and input on what I've attempted to do with my first foray into the D&DWiki world.



I just learned about the whole Dungeon Masters Guild thing going on. It's pretty exciting, but I'm concerned about how it and this wiki will interact. It could potentially allow people to claim creative copyright over vaguely original ideas which are not part of the OGL/SRD. For instance, some guy comes up with a specific and unique design for a Dragon Rider class in the Forgotten Realms campaign setting, makes his own art and everything, publishes it, then claims the idea of a "Dragon Rider" 5th edition class, by name, as his copyright. This would not prevent people making references to his class, but it seems like it would give him authority to sue (Or at least legally harass) anyone who decided to make their own- such as this wiki. We've never had to worry about that much here, because not only was this wiki's content essentially public domain, but there was also no money in the content itself. Around half the DMs Guild's content is for-profit. Am I misunderstanding the limitations and freedoms of the current OGL? Or could this actually be a problem? --Kydo (talk) 21:14, 13 January 2016 (MST)

I'll have to look at the link later on, but I will say that you can't copyright an idea [1]. Marasmusine (talk) 00:34, 14 January 2016 (MST)
That seems to be the case. We can't be legally harrassed unless we copy the text that's under copyright. Or if the name "dragon rider" becomes trademarked, which is unlikely, but not an issue since we can rename things. Marasmusine (talk) 02:54, 14 January 2016 (MST)
That was my primary concern, that someone would claim copyright of "Dragon Rider, the 5th edition class" by name. Maybe I'm underestimating the community. Maybe they aren't the swarm of righteous jerks that the rest of the internet is. --Kydo (talk) 06:21, 14 January 2016 (MST)
Sorry to jump in all of a sudden but I believe that the Dandwiki actually has clauses against such things as is. If I remember correctly the Dand wiki states that it is a public domain and as such everything posted on here has to be of free access to the public. Because of this anything that is posted on the dandwiki must be of free access and anyone can use it so long as they aren't charging money for it. So for someone within the wiki community to steal something like the Dragon rider we could actually file a suit using the wiki it'self as proof. But if a corporation like Wizards of the coasts publishes something similar they could claim that it was independently developed and there wouldn't be much we could do about it. --Aitharious (talk) 06:57, 14 January 2016 (MST)
Dandwiki uses the GNU Free Doc License, it's not public domain. Anyone can publish works from as long as they also release it under the GNU FDL (which is what I am doing with the dandwiki magazine, btw). And again, when it comes to copyright, its the specifics that matter (i.e. the actual text): if the text is the same no-one can claim it was "independently developed". Marasmusine (talk) 07:21, 14 January 2016 (MST)
I have a personal interest and some expertise in this legal domain. What you should do is agree to provide the content free of liens to the domain owned by D&D/WotC, with the friendly condition that they give you named credit for using your work and discounted to free copy of any work that uses your effort (depending on how much contribution you include). It's much like the Creative Commons, but it stays within a (shared) private domain. Trademarks apply to any use of their logos, fonts, color-combinations, and style-sheet templates. Copyright applies to the word itself (as if made by a typewriter). Without using their stylesheets, a homebrewed class probably won't get much traction as it is not integrated into the D&D universe without it (again: colors, logos, etc.). 12:40, 6 March 2016 (MST)

I don't know any other way to ask.[edit]

Could you check out and give any advice you have? I'm relatively new to making classes but I think I did pretty well fixing this one up. --Capt Hooks (talk) 23:17, 14 August 2015 (MDT)

Made some huge changes since your last stop, if you or anyone else could give me a run down on your thoughts it would be great. --Capt Hooks (talk) 22:30, 21 August 2015 (MDT)

Yes also how do we figure out whats playably legit and what isnt? i would like to gather the legit stuff on my user page eventually. so yeah any help would be nice.

Hi, I believe I've sent you an email response. Marasmusine (talk) 00:32, 30 April 2016 (MDT)
Tag your it. Still waiting to learn how to spot something legit. McAlester Gamerz Customer (talk) 13:53, 1 May 2016 (MDT)
I got your email, I don't have time tonight but I will look through them tomorrow. Just quickly though:
The Alien Grey is an example of something that won't work in your 5e game; the rewrite is my attempt to do something with it and I think that's fine to use now (although I was aiming to put a few more options in)
If you see a class that falls into any of the pitfalls at Class Do's and Don'ts (5e Guideline), it may need a partial rewrite. Marasmusine (talk) 16:03, 1 May 2016 (MDT)
That's a lot to remember. Not sure if my memory is that good. I will do my best. There are a lot of classes, that by name alone....are unattractive. That's why we created something, different.TierArea (talk) 16:25, 1 May 2016 (MDT)

3.5e Items?[edit]

Why do you have so few 3.5e Articles? --Redrum 13:50, 16 April 2016 (MDT)

I started to transcribe stuff from my 3rd edition box folder when I first started here, but then just lost interest. I should at least upload the weapon skill system from my Three Kingdoms campaign, eh? Marasmusine (talk) 17:03, 16 April 2016 (MDT)
That sounds interesting. --Redrum 12:38, 23 April 2016 (MDT)


As noted I like this race as well as the original. I haven't noticed any recent changes or I have failed my perception checks.

"Q" of TierArea (talk) 14:04, 20 April 2016 (MDT)

Yeah, sorry, I ought to get back to it, I'm easily distracted. Marasmusine (talk) 14:12, 20 April 2016 (MDT)

G of TierArea (talk) 17:36, 28 April 2016 (MDT) is it done? What else does it need now?

Sorry, not finished yet, will aim to do something on it today. Marasmusine (talk) 02:08, 29 April 2016 (MDT)

G of TierArea (talk) 08:50, 29 April 2016 (MDT) No worries man, I bet your a working man in some aspect, like most of us on this planet, retired, volunteered or otherwise. No need to apologize for being real.

I like the way its shaping up, and the waiting builds anticipation and appreciation. I am not saying make it a habit lol, just use that when it seems necessary.

LOL I think my peers give me too much credit sometimes, and sometimes not enough. What your doing here with the Aliens-Gray/Grey_(5e_Race)/Rewrite is quite nice, in my opinion. I do wish I could be of more value, however contending with local variances does put a strain on my focus.

Again I appreciate your work.

G of TierArea (talk) 08:50, 29 April 2016 (MDT)

4th Edition Assistance For Marasmusine[edit]

I hope this helps some.

I am not sure on what specific help you need on the other 4th E items in waiting.
I'm pretty much left 4e behind, I don't look at those pages much anymore. Marasmusine (talk) 16:03, 25 April 2016 (MDT)
4th Edition you say? I'm still (if slowly) working on getting the entire 4e section of the dandwiki up to snuff, So whatever is up with the 4e I can help :) --Aitharious (talk) 16:06, 26 April 2016 (MDT)
Great, I put you in charge of the 4e dept. :) Marasmusine (talk) 17:00, 26 April 2016 (MDT)

GTierArea (talk) 10:52, 28 April 2016 (MDT) Thanks for the Reply. I was personally trying to assist, when I had those moments to do so. I am glad everything is working out.
I welcome any help if your willing to work with me on the 4e section of the wiki. --Aitharious (talk) 18:23, 28 April 2016 (MDT)

G of TierArea (talk) 22:22, 28 April 2016 (MDT) yes that will be fine. I am good at creative solutions, story and general science's. I know nothing of 4th edition, because I was working 22hs a day when it came out, and I had no time. military and all that. I will do my best to listen and learn.

Geomancer for my Kor[edit]

Hello Marasmusine! First of all, I'd like to thank you for all your feedback on my works.

Now, I'm currently working on my Kor race, and I was thinking about giving it a Stoneforge Mystic paragon path that requires being a geomancer, a class variant that you made.

Would that be okay? And if it is, do you have any suggestions regarding where to go with it?

Thank you! --PokeLinkEs (talk) 04:05, 30 April 2016 (MDT)

The main thing is that the only unique thing about the geomancer is the Staff of Grounding, so the path should have something to do with that. Marasmusine (talk) 04:56, 30 April 2016 (MDT)
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