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Questions about the Mistborn DND class and request for changes?[edit]

Hi, i was wondering if you know the creator/ are the creator of the Mistborn class you reverted the changes about a couple days ago? i didnt mean to ruin others work i just didnt know i wasnt allowed to edit, anyway, what i wanted to ask is about the metal slots? theres no mention of how many there are per level/at all except in burning showing that there are at least 4 per metal and its very confusing so i contacted you-if you have the answer please change the page/ if you know the creator please notify them? i appreciate the creation of the class a lot it really made me have fun :)

The page was created by Dread Claw and has been edited by many users including anonymous ones. You may try that users page but it looks like they've stop following the article, which is in need of much help. Red Leg Leo (talk) 13:18, 21 April 2020 (MDT)

Discord Verification[edit]

Hello my name is Mirk. I wanted to ask to be verified as a user in the DnD Wiki discord server. I also had a few questions what I need to do to edit things appropriately, and how to formally do an edit. I was also wondering if I want to contact a person who made a class, race, etc. how to contact them. My discord on the server is Mirk#9805. Also if you have someone else you prefer me to talk to let me know. Thanks, Mirk.

Your userpage[edit]

Hey GD, just a heads up that I protected your userpage, since it seems to be a semi-frequent target for vandalism. Let me know if I've overstepped. — Geodude Chatmod.png (talk | contribs | email)‎‎ . . 14:01, 24 April 2020 (MDT)

That makes sense. Thanks for the consideration. --Green Dragon (talk) 14:03, 26 April 2020 (MDT)

5e Creature Preload[edit]

A few days ago, I left some notes on the 5e Creature Preload's talk page about some quality of life issues. As it is Admin only, I can not enact the changes myself, and I have received no response since then. I would be very thankful if you or any of the other admins could take a look at it. --Ref3rence (talk) 14:25, 26 April 2020 (MDT)

I have unlocked this page while you make the changes. Just let me know when I can lock it again. --Green Dragon (talk) 12:47, 27 April 2020 (MDT)
We should be good now. --Ref3rence (talk) 13:50, 27 April 2020 (MDT)

Maintenance script[edit]

Hey GD. Going through the CfDs that has hundreds of articles. Pretty much they are mostly images uploaded by the unregistered user named above. Their contributions look like this was a system dump you guys done way back when. Any enlighten on this situation? Reference has only touched the surface of MS image dump in the system and I want to make sure we are deleting these for the right reason. Red Leg Leo (talk) 13:07, 27 April 2020 (MDT)

What unregistered user named above?
When the archaic "D&D Wiki Media" was merged with the main D&D Wiki the user [1] should be displayed. --Green Dragon (talk) 13:13, 27 April 2020 (MDT)
That (Maintenance script) is the user I am referencing. All the images Ms ported over, should they still be deleted? Would licenses have transferred or not transferred over? Looks to be around 500 images (if I am not mistaken) to be deleted. Red Leg Leo (talk) 13:18, 27 April 2020 (MDT)
Oh, no. At that time in time there where no licensing options when uploading the images. I would try to add to the license for the images if you can find it, otherwise delete it. Sorry, but it's also the work of "completing" a merger I guess. --Green Dragon (talk) 13:21, 27 April 2020 (MDT)
Perfect. Thanks so much! Red Leg Leo (talk) 13:33, 27 April 2020 (MDT)

About your marvelous class Engineer[edit]

Hello Green Dragon,

First thank you and congratulation for this class. i play it in a campaign and have two questions.

On the Battletech specializations you say for the extra attack "Beginning at 6th level, you may make three weapon attacks, instead of two, whenever you take the Attack action on your turn." Does that mean all engineer gain a extra attack on level 5 ?

On the gadgeeter specialization for oveclock gadget you say all the gadget's energy requirements areduced by 1. Does that include signature device ? Same for the increase the DC.

Thanks for the class and sorry for my english not my native language.

Have a nice day


This is a community made class. You should ask these questions on the talk page, or just try to fix the problems so that we can look over the changes in case there are problems with them. --Green Dragon (talk) 11:07, 7 May 2020 (MDT)

Getting verified on the Discord sever.[edit]

My discord info is [Sparky] The1&OnlyMe #6742. I hope to contribute to the D&D wiki in whatever way i can. Thanks for verifying me.-- 19:22, 4 June 2020 (MDT)

Not sure how I can verify your information without a wiki username --Green Dragon (talk) 12:48, 5 June 2020 (MDT)

GD, am I interpreting your message in Discord correctly when I say you think the wiki's rules against foul language were applied wrongly on the Discord server, and that the profanity filter should be removed? When I implemented it I was operating based on Help:Behavioral Policy#Language and Adult Theme which states "D&D Wiki forbids the use of profane language...D&D Wikians are urged to utilize alternative wording to express the same meanings of any individual curse word." Was my interpretation of policy not correct? — Geodude Chatmod.png (talk | contribs | email)‎‎ . . 14:04, 20 June 2020 (MDT)

About the Gunner Class[edit]

Hi, I was just wondering why you marked the Gunner as incomplete, as it is a prestige class, it only has 10 levels, not 20, so it can’t be that. I voiced my concern on the talk page for the Gunner class, but you didn’t respond, so I’m messaging you directly, thank you! —-Kanon (talk) 07:13, 17 June 2020 (MDT)

Sorry about that. Thanks for the message. --Green Dragon (talk) 11:45, 17 June 2020 (MDT)


Hello, I'm new in the website and i'd like to make a post Could you tell me how? Thanks Allizin

Sure. What do you want to post? --Green Dragon (talk) 14:13, 21 June 2020 (MDT)

Image help & guidelines[edit]

Hey there, I put together a little set of guidelines for images to make it easier for users to understand image use on the wiki, found here. I think it would be a useful thing to add to the help space. I think it covers pretty much everything, but I wanted to make sure that I wasn't missing anything. --PJammaz (talk) 07:35, 22 June 2020 (MDT)

Thanks for the text. I have implemented it. Is this how you intended it to be? --Green Dragon (talk) 12:58, 22 June 2020 (MDT)
Yeah, that looks great! If I think of anything else, I'll let you know. --PJammaz (talk) 15:34, 22 June 2020 (MDT)

5e To-Do[edit]

Just letting you know that I categorized the uncategorized pages, except the talk pages, because there are 10,000+ of those, and they don’t need a category anyway. So I crossed that off. Additionally, regarding the Category:Other tag, doesn’t monstrosity fill that in, it says on Roll20 that monstrosity is a catch-all type. Even then, Nephilims are humanoids/celestial or fiends, so I don’t see why that warrants an other tag being made. Of course, I’m not an admin, I don’t know how stuff like this usually goes or should go, I’m just throwing in my two cents.   ━Kanon   Talk   16:51, 6 July 2020 (MDT)

Please don't cross that off. This task is never ending. Red Leg Leo (talk) 08:36, 7 July 2020 (MDT)
Alright, makes sense. Thank you for the clarification!   ━Kanon   Talk   08:41, 7 July 2020 (MDT)

How do I change my password[edit]

Hello Green Dragon, Quick question, how do I change my password? I'm having a bit of trouble navigating the site. Thanks

Click the link that says "Preferences" in the top right hand corner of the page, then click on the button that says "change password." Follow the instructions that appear. — Geodude Chatmod.png (talk | contribs | email)‎‎ . . 23:36, 15 July 2020 (MDT)

Page Creation[edit]

i wanted to create the ghirahim page for he hyrule campaign setting but i can’t create pages. i thought i might need and account, but it wouldn’t let me make and account either

Sorry about this, the create new user function is working once again. Thanks for the heads up! --Green Dragon (talk) 12:24, 4 August 2020 (MDT)

Discord Ping[edit]

Hi GD, check Discord please. — Geodude Chatmod.png (talk | contribs | email)‎‎ . . 17:40, 31 July 2020 (MDT)

Peter, please respond to my Discord PM and let me know what is going on. — Geodude Chatmod.png (talk | contribs | email)‎‎ . . 20:54, 3 August 2020 (MDT)

New TTRPG[edit]

I couldn’t find any hard rules on it besides a few implications in help:Precedent, but would this wiki be an appropriate place to construct an entire pen & paper rpg? I’ve been gestating an idea for a while now and really want to let it see the light of day. It’d have a derivative tag if that changes anything. Regardless of the answer, thank you for taking time out of your day as an admin. —Ref3rence (talk) 17:09, 4 August 2020 (MDT)

A couple users have used their userspaces to store their own homebrew systems, so there shouldn't be any issue with you doing the same thing. — Geodude Chatmod.png (talk | contribs | email)‎‎ . . 17:22, 4 August 2020 (MDT)
Wonderful! Being restricted to user pages would explain why I didn’t turn anything up on my initial search. I wish there was a proper tab on the sidebar for misc. systems like this or simply rarer system homebrew, but I feel like it would end up like every campaign setting pages but with more characters (few fleshed our ideas, lots of minor fluff). Thanks for the help Geo. —Ref3rence (talk) 17:30, 4 August 2020 (MDT)
If the content becomes usable and interesting for multiple users (fleshed out) then it can be moved to a proper 5e Other location (systemless). --Green Dragon (talk) 11:45, 5 August 2020 (MDT)


whenever i make a new page the formatting comes out incorrectly. could you please help fix this? below is a link to an example of the problem. Demise (5e Creature)

Small Thanks[edit]

Saw how you rolled back my race the awakened aqua when some nobody power gamers went wild with it, thanks man, I haven't been active and they almost ruined it.


How dare you block me[edit]

Assypenguin is a perfectly fine name

Is it a penguin's head on a donkey's body, or donkey's head on a penguin's body? —Sledged (talk) 08:08, 7 August 2020 (MDT)
Donkey-shaped penguin? Penguin-shaped donkey? —Sledged (talk) 08:09, 7 August 2020 (MDT)
Penguin with donkey-like behaviors? Donkey with penguin-like behaviors? (Okay, I'm done.) —Sledged (talk) 08:10, 7 August 2020 (MDT)
And here we observe a Sledged in its natural habitat. — Geodude Chatmod.png (talk | contribs | email)‎‎ . . 17:05, 7 August 2020 (MDT)

class name change[edit]

I recently created a 5e Homebrew class. I must have done something wrong because now when I search for it under 5e Homebrew classes it shows on the list as "Add New 5e Class", instead of "Labrys Knight". I tried searching for how to fix it, but cant find anything explaining how or what i did wrong. Can you help?

I've sorted this. — Geodude Chatmod.png (talk | contribs | email)‎‎ . . 12:40, 9 August 2020 (MDT)

Concerning the bub-chi race[edit]

hey Ummm... I appreciate you aiming to help with the wiki page for the bub-chi and such, and I am not aware of any official changes. Though the race still isn't 100% finished, as I'm still discussing other attributes as well as working out balance so the race isn't blatantly over or underpowered.

But considering you're an administrator, was the editing part of a major overhaul, or am I missing something? (Most of the edits were me in the history, save from one other who showed up out of nowhere.) —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Yukimare (talkcontribs) . Please sign your posts.

To me it looks like GD simply made a mistake. I'll go ahead and re-place the template. — Geodude Chatmod.png (talk | contribs | email)‎‎ . . 16:38, 3 September 2020 (MDT)
Gots it, thank you! —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Yukimare (talkcontribs) . Please sign your posts.

Someone completely overwrited my witch hunter class that you protected the other day and I no longer have access to set it back :([edit]

Hello Green Dragon. Someone edited my witch hunter class and COMPLETELY deleted all my work :(. Now I can only access it by going into older versions. Is there any way that I can make a wiki page class that other people are not allowed to tamper with, and or get back my witch hunter class because at this point it's completely gone :(. Thank you

You can make a copy in your userspace, since you are not the primary contributor the page should not be moved. --Green Dragon (talk) 12:54, 27 September 2020 (MDT)

about Swashbuckler 2nd variant[edit]

how can i spend my swashbuckling point at 1st level?

Thanks for your help (Aquamancer class page)[edit]

Hello, just wanting to thank you for looking out for the Aquamancer (5e Class) page. I hadn't looked at it for a few months, but I'm proud of it/want it to be the best it can be, and it was a little surprising to see all of the weird changes from so many unregistered users. I appreciate your reining things in! --Ctenochaetus (talk) 14:57, 29 September 2020 (MDT)

Glad to have helped. --Green Dragon (talk) 02:12, 1 October 2020 (MDT)

Why is demise's CR so high?[edit]

Not to be a nub, but why is Demise's CR so ridiculously high? He's not actually all that much stronger than Ganon in canon, and definitely isn't strong enough to 1v1 a tarrasque. Maybe drop his CR down to 30? --Lycanskull (talk) 12:18, 21 October 2020 (MDT)

New Persona TTRPG[edit]

I believe that I can make an entire system based on the persona user class. I'm currently working on it but was wondering if that was ok to do.

Of course it's okay! What are your visions for this system? Can you give me more information? --Green Dragon (talk) 10:26, 6 November 2020 (MST)

Yeah it's a cool system. I've got the cognitive vs real world done and a confidant system. I'm planning to write even more. My next concetp to add is an exhausion system that depends on your sp and hp. The more you use in the cognative world the less you can do in the real world before you need to sleep. Jmepic01 (talk) 15:53, 11 November 2020 (MST) Jmepic01

Could you upload your work to 5e Variant Rules for now, since it seems like your working mostly with a cognitive vs real world rule system so that I can see what your work is like? --Green Dragon (talk) 13:06, 12 November 2020 (MST)

Right now I'm still doing some number adjustments and to balance it a little. After I'll expand the systems enough that they are good enough to post

Requesting your opinion[edit]

I recently made a major balance change to a weapon that I created, you in the past rebalanced it, as it did far too much damage for a one handed weapon. I would like for you to look over it, and message me back if it is unbalanced now, so I can change it. The weapon in question is titled "Brawler Shield".

I have seen your response, what could this be compared to? I genuinely do not know.

Best Regards, Bananaoverlord2345

About the background for the wiki[edit]

Is there a way I can download the background of the dnd wiki? Bowler1234 (talk) 08:21, 24 November 2020 (MST)

Ask ConcealedWife as it was created by this user. --Green Dragon (talk) 10:09, 24 November 2020 (MST)

Upsetting Article[edit]

Hello Green Drago,

I am writing you concerning the following article:

It was brought to my attention after one of my fellow players was looking for information regarding her race in DnD, she had stumbled onto this article believing it to be the official class. We’ve all made this mistake at least once, we’re not concerned with her not recognizing this wiki’s purpose. Instead we (her entire DnD group) were appalled with the content of this page. This race is written with an inherent sexist bias that is unrealistic and harmful. It isn’t super clear on your Warning Policy page if this sort of speech is accepted.

Here are a few of the upsetting ideals written into this race:

“Hence, the lizardfolk have inferior endurance, especially the females, who have even more serious problems metabolizing lactic acid. In a long fight, a lizardfolk will tire faster than a human and will probably retreat if the fight isn't won in a couple of minutes.”

“An average male requires an average of 8 hours of sleep, while a female requires an average of 10 hours of sleep, although many females prefer to sleep for 12 hours.”

"Without exception, within the same species, male lizardfolk are larger, heavier, stronger, faster, more durable, more resistant to pain, fatigue and sickness, and less easily tired than female lizardfolk. Additionally, male lizardfolk have higher average intelligence and are wiser than female lizardfolk. This is due to the need for the males to do the hunting and fighting for the tribe. Additionally, male lizardfolk naturally live longer than females, but the habits of war and violence tend to equalize their lifespans with the females. In no case does a female lizardfolk ever control a tribe, clan, or village; the purpose of the female lizardfolk consorts is to make heirs, not to rule. If a chief were to die and a daughter or wife was his only relative, then the strongest males would fight to see which one of them was the strongest, and the winner would become the new chief.

It should be obvious that male lizardfolk are excellent front line soldiers. With more strength and constitution than an average human, they ought to make great fighters. At home, they are excellent hunters and fishers, and can apply their hunting skills to aid whatever party of adventurers they may join. The males can also make skilled rangers.

Female lizardfolk are often unable to take care of themselves, as they aren't very good at competing with males for hunting or fishing grounds; the very few that have ever tried have been outclassed in every way. As a result, they have to find a mate or else depend on male relatives. In isolation, a female lizardfolk actually would be able to do some hunting or fishing, but even the least competition from a male will be enough to see her outdone. Female lizardfolk are more flexible than their male counterparts, but not nearly so much so that they would get any bonus to dexterity because of it.

For game purposes, to get the stats of a female lizardfolk, first calculate the stats normally for the male, and then factor in the following:

-4 strength, -4 constitution, -2 intelligence, -2 wisdom. Female lizardfolk also only have +2 natural armor instead of the male +5 natural armor (in common lizardfolk, but in no case do females have more than, or as much natural armor as the males, no matter the species.) Females can only hold their breath for only three times its constitution score before drowning (instead of 4X for the male.) Females by necessity, are supposed to lay eggs and raise children, thus ensuring the continued survival of the race. Biologically, this necessitates certain physiological adjustments that may impede the females from combat, but in no way reduce their value to the race; in fact, their value actually increases in some ways because they can lay eggs. Lizardfolk females are acutely aware of this, and very few females will live their lives without reproducing.

In comparison to a human, a typical female lizardfolk has -2 strength, constitution, wisdom, and -4 intelligence (minimum of 3). In an adventuring party, this can prove to be quite a problem. Being neither good at combat nor skilled in magic, the female lizardfolk would at first glance appear to be a liability for any party. However, this weakness can be turned into a strength... of a sort. Having little combat proficiency frees the female lizardfolk PCs from having to develop such skills, enabling them to class as bards and rogues and develop other skills. With little need to give them fighting skills, one can develop a female character's non-combat skills, and use them to the party's advantage. Female Paludian lizardfolk bards receive a +2 charisma bonus upon entering that class and lose it when leaving it. This reflects the exotic, eye-catching nature of the females; this is only able to be exploited by a class which requires the female to be looked at and paid attention to. For a female fighter or paladin, appearance and grace matter less, and the rest of the world knows it, so only the bard would logically receive a bonus for being eye-catching in a performance. Skills for the female lizardfolk that are worth focusing on include Balance, Diplomacy, Disguise, Escape Artist, Gather information, Move Silently,Open Lock, Perform, and Sleight of hand. Chances are, one can easily fit an exotic, alluring female lizardfolk into a party, especially if one's party needs someone agile and charismatic (while there is no particular bonus for dexterity, it ought to be focused on in order to make the PC worthwhile.) These can be good PCs because they can excel in certain niche roles that a party might need from time to time, such as having to send someone to balance on a narrow plank in order to get an item, or having to sneak through a dark room.

During the prime mating season (spring, roughly 1/4 of the year), females receive a special +4 modifier to certain charisma checks to represent the release of pheromones and their greater desire to mate (though females always wish to mate more than the males do, but even more so during mating season), but it wears off after the season ends. In the wider world, female lizardfolk are considered to be rare, exotic and eye-catching, whereas the ferocious males simply intimidate and frighten others. Hence, the outside observer can see a dichotomy between the two roles of the lizardfolk sexes; male strength vs female exoticness.

There is one native Paludian class which allows female lizardfolk to circumvent some of their disadvantages, that of the Hierodule, a divine casting class with no offensive capability. The education required for this class enables the females to avoid the -2 intelligence and -2 wisdom penalty, and this will apply only for the female if her first class is that of Heirodule. For no other class does the training for being a Heirodule apply, so if the female should switch classes, the penalties to intelligence and wisdom apply."

“Like all other species of lizardfolk, the males are much heavier, larger, stronger, and more durable in every way than the females, who only weigh between 90-120 pounds (on average), are at least a foot shorter, are nowhere near as strong, and have softer skin, weaker bones, and less resistance to pain, fatigue, and injury. The females also have a lesser capacity for logic and reason, being creatures of hormones, feelings, and passions. The common lizardfolk are the most numerous type of in Paludia, forming a plurality of the entire lizardfolk population in Paludia.”

I understand the desire to create races that mimic animals and cultures but no animal puts this strong of a disadvantage on all females. This article appears to be written with a ridiculous amount of harmful language and ideals towards females. It explicitly states that women of this race are useless for all things other than mating, it frequently uses the problematic work “exotic” and only gives women any use if they are used as a sex object as a bard and any advantage they get from that goes away if they leave the party. I’m not sure if the class started this way or was added later. Regardless, it seems inappropriate to have an article like this for a game that should be about inclusion and acceptance.

I am posting this for all of the moderators so the article can be reviewed. I understand if this isn’t found to be against your community guidelines but please do consider the harm this type of article might impose on someone who might be quick to make parallels with human females or young females who might believe this about themselves.

Thank you —The preceding unsigned comment was added by ConcernedViewer (talkcontribs) . Please sign your posts.

I've handled this. — Geodude Chatmod.png (talk | contribs | email)‎‎ . . 21:35, 3 December 2020 (MST)

I am Lord Vectra in Discord Server[edit]

Waiting to be verified —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Lord Vectra (talkcontribs) . Please sign your posts.

Please read the #rules-and-info channel in Discord to know how to become verified. — Geodude Chatmod.png (talk | contribs | email)‎‎ . . 11:24, 6 February 2021 (MST)
I'm still confused on how to verify my username. Rules states for me to come here. EDIT: I think I figured it out. The site UI was just confusing me. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Lord Vectra (talkcontribs) . Please sign your posts.

Updated lists and collapsable content trees[edit]

Hello Green Dragon!

Firstly, thank you for protecting the Gambler Class, the changes everybody made were getting a little annoying. While working on the Gambler, I noticed that the List Category:5e_Other_Spellcaster only contained the Gambler Class when I'm logged in. This might be a bug, but there is 29 classes listed now and only 27 when not logged in. Also, is there an option to make a page's contents collapsable somehow? (As on Dndbeyond) I like the option of being able to click on everything to get straight to this part of an article but if everything is linked, the table gets a little too big to be easy to navigate.

These things are all not pressing, so feel free to answer whenever you have time to spare.

Thank you and have a nice day, --Shorty181 (talk) 11:28, 22 February 2021 (MST)

If you are asking to collapse a category, no that's not possible.
If you are referring to some list, please link the page so that I can look at it. A link to the article, table, or whatever would be really helpful.
If you want the gambler class to be locked indefinitely, please let me know so I can do that. --Green Dragon (talk) 00:43, 3 March 2021 (MST)
Hello Green Dragon!
Ok, I'll find a different solution then.
here's the link
Yes, permanently locking the class would probably be a good Idea, thank you! --Shorty181 (talk) 12:11, 3 March 2021 (MST)
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