Talk:Apocalypto (5e Class)

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So with the spellcasting... does this mean you only get 5 spells? "Each time you learn a spell slot of a new level you learn one spell of your choice from..." Notdndwiki

Yes, that is what it means.--Yanied (talk) 15:59, 6 April 2019 (MDT)

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This is very well written, its balance is reasonable, it fits a unique niche, and it's concept is well done. --Green Dragon (talk) 09:37, 21 May 2019 (MDT)

Support. Wow, this is... quite a surprise. (I'm not the OP, btw, hi) So... how does article nomination work? Do I just put Support and say why? If so, uh... I'm sure that there's a ton of grammar problems and capitalization errors and needed links and stuff... but yeah, this is a nifty class capitalizing entirely on the versatility on a mounted warrior, who slowly ascends from earthly status to a real life-wrecker... Mechanics-wise, I'm sure someone will say it's just a third-spellcaster with a permanent steed... But the requirements for needing the steed are much more exemplified! Thank you again for your considerations!--Yanied (talk) 20:50, 21 May 2019 (MDT)

Comment. At first glance it looks well written. I don't like how they have access to four class spell lists. The more spells you add, the less flavour the class has. Please pick one or make a custom list. I'd like Rider Rage to drop the +2 at 11th level or replace it with another benefit. Regarding the horse, I'd like you to assume that the player will not have access to their warhorse for at least half of their adventures, for example because the party have had to access a bit of dungeon a horse just can't get into (and this is being generous: I find that not an adventure goes by where the player's haven't had to go up or down a shaft, or swim underwater through a narrow tunnel, or shimmy along a ledge.). This means that the class is not benefiting from its core features for half the time. It could be that the subclass features make up for this, but this needs considering. Marasmusine (talk) 07:09, 30 May 2019 (MDT)

  • Furthermore, I guarantee that players forced to leave their warhorse behind will deliberately kill it so that they can re-summon it in some downtime on the "other side". Marasmusine (talk) 07:13, 30 May 2019 (MDT)
  • It would also be tempting at 5th level to simply abandon the warhorse and use find steed instead. Marasmusine (talk) 07:16, 30 May 2019 (MDT)
Your critiques are valid. The spell list can be cut down to get rid of access to spells like find steed. (Unfortunately, I just lack the access to address this ^ ^;)--Yanied (talk) 20:45, 30 May 2019 (MDT)
Maybe the player could morph their steed into an augmented familiar to fix this? --Green Dragon (talk) 03:46, 31 May 2019 (MDT)
That's a good way to get around it. I just worry for balance reasons. The lack of the horse in situations acts to check the race's powers but they would be very useless (debilitatingly so?) in those situations. With Ascendency of Material, the horse becomes like the horse from the find steed spell anyway. Not sure I addressed the question--Yanied (talk) 07:46, 31 May 2019 (MDT)
I'll unlock this page temporarily so that non-admins can make the necessary improvements to the page. — NPC Geodude Chatmod.png (talk | contribs | email)‎‎ . . 14:34, 11 June 2019 (MDT) (EDIT: Never mind, looks like that's been done already 14:35, 11 June 2019 (MDT))
So thanks to the access, I have accordingly changed the spell lists available to just bard. Rider Rage also changed to eliminate the +2 for another benefit, and the subclasses, sans Famine, were pretty decent on features without mount. I have fixed Famine accordingly for your consideration.--Yanied (talk) 19:53, 11 June 2019 (MDT)


Support The lore is interesting, the abilities are varied, fleshed out, engaging, and look fun. The class is not balanced at all but in the context of the source material that actually adds to it in this case.

Also it's just wonderful to imagine a Terry Pratchett version of Death cruising around in a regular DnD party adventuring. Whalebone (talk) 08:37, 14 June 2019 (MDT)

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