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Figurine of Wondrous Power[edit]

Hey Kydo, I recently created the 5e SRD:Figurine of Wondrous Power, but the formatting has gone a little weird. Could you help? SirSprinkles (talk) 04:40, 16 October 2016 (MDT)

Here Kitty Kitty[edit]

Hey man, thanks for all the help, you've been great helping me out with my great saber tooth race. I'd just like to ask if you got any ideas for traits or how to balance them out, cause someone has pointed out it doesn't work well with the classes and backgrounds in the player's handbook. Maybe a custom class I or you could make, or maybe a few traits or subrace ideas, or maybe even just some tips and pointers on what to do?--Dinomaster337 (talk) 16 October 2016 (MDT)

I saw his concerns, and I've been thinking about it. I have thought of a few solutions without building a whole class, (which is a HUGE undertaking) but I'm still thinking about how to resolve the issues completely. Give me some time to mull these ideas over. --Kydo (talk) 20:13, 16 October 2016 (MDT)

K--Dinomaster337 (talk) 16 October 2016 (MDT)

Hey, I have another art request. I just updated the society page for the great sabers and included their religion, which is based on animism. One of the lines reads "Shamans of tribes, called Kalokas, often speak to these spirits through dreams and oracle bones, a menagerie of sacred bones which are burned in rituals, and the shaman makes predictions be reading the cracks in the bones." I thought it would be cool if you could draw a ritual with the oracle bones to add to that section. I envision the shaman wearing an animal skull as a mask for some reason, I don't know why.--Dinomaster337 (talk) 17 October 2016 (MDT)
Yes, I can do that. I think the page is getting rather cluttered with images though. We like to have pictures on a page, but we also try to avoid overwhelming the content with art. Perhaps drop the image of a jaguar? --Kydo (talk) 05:15, 19 October 2016 (MDT)
It's a clouded leopard, and sure, that picture was taking up space anyway. Besides if I peek someone's curiosity, they'll probably just look it up, so not a huge loss.--Dinomaster337 (talk) 19 October 2016 (MDT)
Sssooo, I just added a new subrace to the great sabers and I'm having a problem with the text. Knew how to fix it?

Yes. I think that got it. The wiki ignores single line breaks. For Example: A B C D (Hit edit to see what that looks like in the editor.) Honestly, it is the single most frustrating pain in the arse about the editor. I can't even count how many times I spent hours troubleshooting a buggy display, only to realize it was a single line break issue. --Kydo (talk) 17:39, 20 October 2016 (MDT)

So, what was your solution to the problem of classes without making a class that is the only way to play Great Saber Tooths? I just figure it's been a while since I asked, and I'm wondering if you thought of something?--Dinomaster337 (talk) 27 October 2016 (MDT)

Hello? You there? Happy Halloween?--Dinomaster337 (talk) 31 October 2016 (MDT)

Oh Wow! Sorry man, didn't know you had so much on your hands. Hope eveything works out ok. ;)--Dinomaster337 (talk) 2 November 2016 (MDT)

Balance Check Query[edit]

Hey Kydo,

I've had one of my old pages, [[1]], edited by the user HelloAgain. A lot of this is tremendously imbalanced, and out of curiosity I've checked through his contributions to other pages so far. The vast majority of these are really out of whack, and I'm not sure what to do to flag this for further notice, aside from buzzing you? He's got a pretty good drive to provide content, but the balance is getting lost somewhere in the process.--Kahz (talk) 03:22, 19 October 2016 (MDT)

Feel free to just undo any edits which are not in the spirit of a page. He doesn't talk much, and argues less, so it shouldn't be a problem. If you find yourself in an edit war though, definitely call an admin like myself. I will bring the issue up on his talk page. Thank you for your diligence! --Kydo (talk) 04:49, 19 October 2016 (MDT)


What is your OPINION on an Olympic Athlete style Background? (No, I do not want you to create and post it) -- 13:00, 22 October 2016 (MDT)

I think it's a great idea! You'll have to make sure it doesn't overlap too much with the Entertainer background or its Gladiator variant. --Kydo (talk) 13:08, 22 October 2016 (MDT)

Would a FAKE psychic be a charlatan background, an entertainer background, or a cross of the two? -- 18:37, 14 December 2016 (MST)

That depends entirely on the style you're looking for. The entertainer would probably work better, because its feature is nondescript enough that your "performance" could be anything, and isn't actually tied to any kind of check in order to function. The tool proficiency isn't especially important; whether you can play your instrument or not doesn't matter, you don't have to play it at all. I'd take the disguise kit proficiency, because that would be more useful if you get caught and need to lay low for a while. --Kydo (talk) 23:17, 14 December 2016 (MST)
What if you want to do a Patrick Jane(Mentalist)-type backstory? --Redrum 16:52, 4 January 2017 (MST)

Lead Face[edit]

From the author of the Bone Splinter (5e Race) comes a somewhat absurd concept. The Lead Face (5e Race) starts with a gun for a face. Aside from obvious balance issues (you have a weapon that nobody can take away from you without decapitating you), there are a slew of other problems, like bad terminology and frankly several overpowered traits, such as immunity to poison at level 1 (makes the classic mistake of not specifying whether poison damage or the poisoned condition, but OP either way). Help? SirSprinkles (talk) 13:56, 24 October 2016 (MDT)

Just chipping in with my 2 British pence. If it's funny, add the April Fool's tag. If a trait can be balanced without taking any of the humour away, then that should be done (sometimes the humour is in a wonky trait). If there's wording that can be improved without taking any of the humour away, then that should be done (I spot a "You gain +1 to AC Stat"). Personally I think it's funny enough to keep, I had at least one chuckle at "Improved Sights. You cannot be blinded." Marasmusine (talk) 14:20, 24 October 2016 (MDT)
I know where he got the idea. I think I misunderstood him. I thought he was just talking about playing such a thing, not posting it to the wiki. My response may have been misleading given my misunderstanding. --Kydo (talk) 14:28, 24 October 2016 (MDT)
I already added the April Fools tag, but it was removed. SirSprinkles (talk) 14:29, 24 October 2016 (MDT)
Reinstated. SirSprinkles (talk) 22:29, 24 October 2016 (MDT)
Not anymore! Kanye West (talk) 23:02, 24 October 2016 (MDT)
Please pretend to be a functional social being at the very least. Actively antagonizing your fellow wikians, even if done in a puerile way, is not an especially good way to get people to care about you or your contributions. As far as I'm concerned, you're a troll who believes the community's standards are a group berserk button, and you're trying to take the community for a ride with intentionally trashy contributions, most likely as a criticism of the past quality of overall wiki content. Prove me wrong. --Kydo (talk) 00:24, 25 October 2016 (MDT)
Since the original contributor has absolutely no respect for community or consensus, I recommend the page be protected to admin. I'm not touching that thing with my ten foot pole, it's just a recommendation. Perhaps one of the more senior administrators has a better idea. --Kydo (talk) 00:29, 25 October 2016 (MDT)
I'll prove you wrong once you're done counting the amount of hair on your neckbeard. Kanye West (talk) 01:53, 25 October 2016 (MDT)

Publications Standards[edit]

I made a publication thing and want to make sure it looks right. The publications pages are few and far between and I want to make sure I did it right so I can use that page as a reference. Just wanna know if I missed anything (transcribing the OGL is beyond me, however) and if there is a real "this product has OGL content" template and not just a table I took from another publication :P I remember seeing one, I think, but can't remember where.--GamerAim (talk) 07:38, 25 October 2016 (MDT)

Oh, and I edited the AEG page because it had broken links to 3.5 pages (well, the links worked but to the wrong pages >_>). Just wanna make sure it looks fine?--GamerAim (talk) 07:42, 25 October 2016 (MDT)

You did a better job than I did! I have no idea if there's a template for that. I'll ask GD. Thank you for taking care of that maintenance work. Nobody's been taking care of the publications pages for years. I'm trying to drum up some support for getting that project rolling again, but after only a few publications, I'm already exhausted by it. --Kydo (talk) 09:54, 25 October 2016 (MDT)
Thanks! I have a digital RPG archive for historical preservation (I fancy myself something of an historian and archivist), so I can pretty easily access all the info on these books and it's right down my alley. I also have school two days a week and don't have much time in the mornings to do a lot, so I'll probably do some publications or see what other wiki maintenance can be done on those mornings. TBH, I probably would have hightailed it out of here if you hadn't responded to me the other day. I guess it made me rethink leaving and spurred a motivation to contribute instead :)--GamerAim (talk) 15:30, 25 October 2016 (MDT)


Since you seem to know a lot, I've got two questions (first one hypothetical, second one serious): First, could I add a general disclaimer to my userpage that all my content (i.e. every page I create) is OGL content, or would I have to remember to put the footer on every page? Secondly, is it possible to purposely opt-out of being attributed on a page I edited, like via a disclaimer on my userpage that minor edits don't have to be credited? I know those questions are kind of odd to be asking, but I'd like to better understand the licensing and the implication thereof on D&D Wiki.--GamerAim (talk) 13:06, 26 October 2016 (MDT)

Those two questions are something I have been wondering and trying to figure out for about 6 months. Here's my understanding:
  • There is supposed to be a way to select the license a page is published under during creation. Our own legal policy states this as fact. That option does not currently exist, and I can not for the life of me figure out why. There are two possible answers: 1) It was never implemented and nobody's cared enough to complain yet. 2) During the kerfuffle, (a 2012 community-wide debate regarding copyright, attribution, management, and quality regulation, which resulted in half of the administrators and other users leaving to make their own wiki) someone disabled the function in favor of dual-licensing for the entire wiki. I am not sure which one actually happened. Green Dragon is not the most active person in the world, and Blue Dragon even less so. When GD does answer legal questions, he makes about as much sense as listening to radio static to receive accurate predictions about the stock market. He's a smart person, but does a very poor job of communicating legal concepts. (Either that, or he's a lawyer, which is pretty much the same thing) So, I have no idea what the situation is, or how to change it. I have considered removing the line about choosing a license at page creation, but that would pretty much invalidate us hosting anything OGL, including the SRD, because the OGL license does not allow users to relicense OGC. So, yeah, I'm stuck. Keep in mind, every content page on the wiki is technically already OGL by nature; that's the license which allows us to make homebrew and legally redistribute our creations at all. It may be that, because every page is technically under both licenses simultaneously, there is no need to select one or the other. Because the content has dual-licensing, we aren't relicensing anything, so it's legal. It's certainly within the spirit of the OGL at least, as not being allowed to relicense the works prevents the OGL from turning into an insane quagmire of sublicenses daisy-chained together.
  • As for opting out, I think that's actually kind of opposite the function of a wiki. I've never heard of a wiki which allows a user to hide or remove their contributions. I mean, there's certainly a lot of pages where my only contribution was to add or remove "{{stub|incomplete}}", so I wouldn't really consider myself worthy of being listed as one of the page's "authors". The GFDL requires it though, and I think that may be why user attribution is a mandatory function of the wiki software. --Kydo (talk) 13:40, 26 October 2016 (MDT)
The similarity between the OGL and the GFDL is exactly why I don't actually care about what I asked. I was just trying to understand it. It's always awful when a website splits in two (like the Vault/Nukapedia) due to a disagreement. There is an OGL template that technically could be used to mark user-content as OGL, since the site rules say you can relicense it as such. I don't really agree with GD on all this stuff, but the site is pretty transparent about what's going on, so anyone who doesn't like it has plenty of notice to back out.
I only asked about backing out because I've done some minor work on pages that I wouldn't expect to be attributed for, legally speaking. I'm not asking to be removed from the changelog, I just mean that if someone takes a page I did some grammar correction on (and checks to see that's all I did), and decides to sell it, I wouldn't expect to be attributed since it wasn't anything I feel meaningful. But like you said: laws are laws, so if someone did that and was honest, they'd have to credit me. Personally, it'd have been easier if the site used a license that said nothing on it could be sold (though TBH, no one is making big bucks off "stealing" from here) >_> Anyway, thanks for the reply (again) :)--GamerAim (talk) 14:10, 26 October 2016 (MDT)
I hope that I make at least some sense, but I don't want to state something which is not true to answer your questions. I also enjoy being active on D&D Wiki, but sometimes (right now in particular) almost all my time is spend getting my work done.
For now, please just add the {{OGL Top}} and {{OGL Bottom}} onto the pages you want listed under those licenses (at their creation), and put "authors request" as the entries into the template's parameters. Is there a different method other websites use for licensing information that you know of? --Green Dragon (talk) 16:06, 26 October 2016 (MDT)
Aha! There's the man, now! Thank you for clearing that up! Glad to see you had some time to spare for this topic. Should Help:Legal be updated to include links to those templates and an explanation for how to implement them? The original wording implies some sort of actual interface option which allows you to select a license, like what is provided when uploading files for copyright status. --Kydo (talk) 16:38, 26 October 2016 (MDT)
My question was more: would plastering "ALL PAGES LISTED AS CREATED BY ME ARE SUBJECT TO THE TERMS OF THE OPEN GAME LICENSE" on my userpage constitute a declaration of license from a legal and wiki standpoint? I gather that the answer is no, and that it only counts as OGL if the correct templates are applied. IDK what other sites do for this, since it was more of a "if I did this, would it be legally binding?" thing. Thanks for responding anyway, GD. Most appreciated :)--GamerAim (talk) 17:24, 26 October 2016 (MDT)
If, at the page's creation you correctly attribute it as OGL then, yes, it is binding since D&D Wiki states: "Most content is available under the GNU FDL. Pages under the OGL are marked as such." --Green Dragon (talk) 12:29, 27 October 2016 (MDT)

Oh Kydo, my lucklorn friend, I return with another question. It isn't urgent, so don't worry about getting back as soon as possible. Anyway, my issue is this: many OGL publications are stingy about what's OGC - it's common to make a spell's parameters and effect open as per the license, but make the spell's name closed content/product identity. Now this means other publications can use the spell if they credit the original author and change the name, but lots of websites, including wikis, make use of copyrighted names. For instance, Bethesda Softworks is very aggressive about copyright infringement, but Nukapedia references the Brotherhood of Steel and such by name. IDK what that use falls under, if it is legal, but is there any way I could reuse product identity spell, feat, creature, etc. names (and no other product identity) for article names without violating copyright law and the OGL? If you don't know, it's fine, I just don't want to rename countless items if I don't have to.--GamerAim (talk) 18:52, 7 December 2016 (MST)

Kind of a tough one to answer. On the one hand, you are allowed to use copyrighted names to refer to a product. That is acceptable, because otherwise it would mean copyright law allows people to own language itself, and that would be very much against the spirit of the law. On the other hand, a transcription of the publicly licensed elements of a written work is not "about" that work, it is a reproduction. In this context, I do believe transcribing the unlicensed elements, such as names, would be a form of infringement. You could head them with a qualifying statement which states what the content relates to in the source material. For example, "spell effect of blah from page blah of blah" or the like. This would be a transcription of the licensed content preceded by a comment about how it relates to the unlicensed content. It's also awkward as hell. I doubt anyone's going to come after you for abbreviating all of that down to just using the name though. We are clearly not claiming ownership of the work, as every page has clear legal disclaimers, and we usually make direct reference to the source material. --Kydo (talk) 22:52, 8 December 2016 (MST)

Hey, Kydo! I'm sorry[edit]

I'm sorry for calling you a loser in the past. Pope Francaisco (talk) 23:11, 27 October 2016 (MDT)

It's OK. Like I said, I've got thick skin. I appreciate the apology though. I'm trying to get a good chuck of free time to cover the mechanics of the race, butwork has been rather crazy lately. --Kydo (talk) 01:48, 28 October 2016 (MDT)

Hey there[edit]

<-- Your text here! --> 06:19, 28 October 2016 (MDT)

i don't know how this works but i think this writer is gone. I was wondering if this game could be voted on or moved to a star rating. I think its worth it.

Holy smokes. Look at all of that text. I guess Ill be reading for a while... --Kydo (talk) 06:21, 28 October 2016 (MDT)


Aw, my badtimesnoticebox was not meant to allow bad things to happen in others' lives! >: Sorry t'hear you're also havin' a tough time of life at the moment. All of my wellbeing improvement hearts go to you, hope things pick up soon. <3 --SgtLion (talk) 13:35, 2 November 2016 (MDT)

thanks. I'll be back in full swing after I get my grades back. Fair warning: I may not be in the best of moods when that happens. --Kydo (talk) 18:28, 16 November 2016 (MST)
Sorry to hear that your warning was realised! I have as many hearts for you as you may or may not want. I'm sure you're doing fine because you're sensible and capable, but if you ever wanna hang, or chill, or play vidgams if you do that much, or whatever, then feel free to hit me up~ --SgtLion (talk) 03:02, 15 December 2016 (MST)
Interesting you should mention games. I've been considering organizing a PBP game of 5e D&D through this wiki. I mean, we are called the "D&D Wiki" after all! There is a disturbing lack of actual play going on in this community! And, as I said in one of the guides I wrote, "if you can't be bothered to play the game you're designing for, you're kind of missing the point!" I was thinking about setting it up through the wiki forum, and building the campaign setting as we play on the wiki. So, like, I'd build a page for the town we're in and link the town name in my post to the town's page. Stuff like that. And then, to focus on the collaborative nature of the community, I was thinking about using the decentralized DM method presented by Story Points in the DMG, that would allow each player to use their story point to do more in each post, and allow us to work as equals to create an exciting setting and narrative. It's all just brainstorming atm, but what do you think of the idea in general? --Kydo (talk) 19:40, 15 December 2016 (MST)
That would be pretty awesome. I've never actually done much PBP of any kind personally (almost all my DnD-in' has been text and gametable IC and skype OOC) but I'd deffo be interested. Though I also have little experience with the decentralized DM thing, that sounds like a decent approach, 'specially for wiki. I particularly like the idea of building the setting in the wiki collaboratively. I'm all for it f'sho. --SgtLion (talk) 05:20, 17 December 2016 (MST)

Price Check[edit]

How much would Plumber's Tools cost? Don't tell me there is no plumbing in ancient or medieval times because I have a DVD about Pompeii that says it had a form of plumbing (in 79 A.D.). --Redrum 17:57, 2 November 2016 (MDT)

Probably a lot. In fairly primitive cultures, plumbers tools would just be masons tools, because the plumbing would just be fancy stone/brick work. Later or more advanced cultures, the tools would look a lot more like smith's tools, specifically those used in the finishing of lead, as a lot of ancient plumbing systems were based on lead pipes. In either case, early plumbers installed piping. The underclass dealt with the maintenance. --Kydo (talk) 18:32, 16 November 2016 (MST)

Making a 5e Monster "Elite"[edit]

Hello there!

I've been experimenting with ways to take given regular 5e monsters, and make "elite" versions of them, for the purpose of throwing customized, named monsters into random encounters every so often. The way I've gone about it up to this point is to do the following to a normal monster:
- increase all ability scores by +2
- increase AC by +2
- increase number of hit dice by +1
- use the maximum possible result of hit dice for its health
- increase challenge rating by +1 to compensate for the other changes

Any thoughts about this method? Clockwerk66 (talk) 14:06, 3 November 2016 (MDT)

I think it's finicky and technical. I also don't think the +1 CR adequately represents the other bonuses in all cases. Do that to a .25CR monster, and yeah it gets way stronger, but do that to the Tarrasque? It makes almost no difference. The proposed bonuses must be considered relative to the monster they affect and the ultimate effect they have in play. Monster stats don't even actually change much of anything anyways, just how long a fight lasts and the hit/miss ratio. What really makes monsters valuable is the tactical situation they present the player. A legendary monster should require unique tactical approaches, not more hits. --Kydo (talk) 18:38, 16 November 2016 (MST)

5e Wizard of OZ[edit]

Could you do werelions, sentient scarecrows, and boots of transportation? --Redrum 17:58, 16 November 2016 (MST)

I would use the Tabaxi race to represent the cowardly lion.
I would use the skeleton to represent the scarecrow.
I probably wouldn't even write rules for the Ruby slippers, I'd just have them "work" according to their function in the story.
I would not reveal any if this to my players. --Kydo (talk) 18:23, 16 November 2016 (MST)
There is a scarecrow (as a construct) in the monster manual but that version doesn't ring for me.--Redrum 15:32, 26 November 2016 (MST)
Me either. That's why I went for the skeleton. I'd change it a little, of course, but most of the changes would be cosmetic. --Kydo (talk) 16:34, 26 November 2016 (MST)

Warmage (5e Class)[edit]

I finished and improve my custom class some time ago. I think that it deserve to be moved to Classes template from Incomplete Classes template. Especially after the last rework. Please check it out and move if possible ;)
Ps. Hope you will like it ;)

--Anarion Blackshadow (talk) 16:29, 23 November 2016 (CET)
I'll give it a go-over, but completeness isn't the only thing a class needs. It also needs to be detailed with flavor text, use correct terminology, and be mechanically stable. If it doesn't satisfy those parameters, the stub template will just be replaced with other templates. Also, it'll take me about a day, because I build and run a character to test the content. --Kydo (talk) 10:27, 23 November 2016 (MST)
Dude. It's already in the complete list. You removed the stub template already, yo. --Kydo (talk) 10:36, 23 November 2016 (MST)

I put some changes, based on your review. If you can, check out my arguments to some point of your review at warmage talk page.
Thx for honest opinion ;)
--Anarion Blackshadow (talk) 14:15, 24 November 2016 (CET)

Hey, no problem. I'm still planning on looking through the rest of the thing. Sorry I'm distracted a lot right now. I do think that it is very close to being an equal to the core classes. After I've given my perspective and you've responded (or not) I'll make a character and see how it plays. If it runs well, I'll probably incorporate it into my own games. --Kydo (talk) 10:13, 24 November 2016 (MST)

Once again, thank you for your help with Warmage. It is priceless. Anyway, I try to answer as fast as I can, and consider each argument. After addition of Arcane Power, class requires a few more tests. Especially - We will need to balance the costs of those points. So far, they are only theoretical, so it need to be tested in practice.
--Anarion Blackshadow (talk) 15:11, 27 November 2016 (CET)

Joke Monsters[edit]

What's your OPINION on Killer Tomatoes, Ninja Monkeys, and Werecows? --Redrum 16:48, 23 November 2016 (MST)

Use the {{April Fools}} template. --Kydo (talk) 17:19, 23 November 2016 (MST)


What's your OPINION on a Magic Aided Glider, Flare Guns, and Flash Grenades? --Redrum 16:59, 23 November 2016 (MST)

If it's magically aided, why doesn't it just fly? Flare guns are a simple enough thing to homebrew. So are flash grenades. They'd both be modern items. Honestly, I probably wouldn't even write rules for any of these, I'd just adjudicate their effect in play. --Kydo (talk) 17:34, 23 November 2016 (MST)
IDK what edition you mean to make it for, but Atlas Games' Crime and Punishment for D&D 3.5e contains rules for a OGC:Flareshot (3.5e Equipment) and OGC:Flashstone (3.5e Equipment). Maybe that'd give you some ideas on implementation? (Mind the formatting; I rushed to get them done for you to see.)--GamerAim (talk) 17:50, 23 November 2016 (MST)
Kydo, what if TRUE spell flight isn't available or is (at the very least) frowned upon? -- 15:00, 26 November 2016 (MST)
I have no idea what sort of in-game situation that would be. If a DM is restricting access to flight, there's a reason for it, and circumventing that through homebrew isn't going to be beneficial. (If you're the DM, you'd be shooting yourself in the foot, and if someone else is the DM, they'll just say no) --Kydo (talk) 16:31, 26 November 2016 (MST)
At the moment, true spell flight is a little erratic because of Wild Magic. A version of the glider was suggested as a stopgap measure until the little problem was resolved.
GamerAim, the edition I mean was 5e. --Redrum 17:48, 7 December 2016 (MST)

hay kydo[edit]

i have been busy working on a page for ships and the page you sent me was of great help and i was wondering if i could send you a copy of my work i have done to make ships viable and i woul like your opinion before i add it to the wiki --Dwarik forgehart (talk) 16:22, 29 November 2016 (MST)Dwarik forgehart

I'd be happy to read it and comment. (Though I've been mostly inactive for the past few weeks, I'm still trying to at least keep up with this community) Can you please supply me with a link? --Kydo (talk) 18:02, 30 November 2016 (MST)

Santa Klaws[edit]

How many Flying Reindeer would it REALLY take to pull a sleigh or carriage? --Redrum 17:47, 30 November 2016 (MST)

(My Santa's elves are Drow)
Well, the deer would need to be charmed with a spell which allows them to "fly" by running. Second, the sleigh would need to be a magic item which can be towed in flight while remaining level to the flight path. Third, with those properties given, it would either take none (The sleigh just goes, because if you're making it fly, you might as well go all the way) or however many it takes to overcome the total weight of the sleigh. After that, it wouldn't matter how many reindeer are involved; the group will only ever go as fast as their lowest member. --Kydo (talk) 18:01, 30 November 2016 (MST)
What if the Reindeer were already magical (or were some form of Fey)? --Redrum 18:12, 30 November 2016 (MST)
I often wonder what your group's games look like. --Kydo (talk) 17:17, 6 December 2016 (MST)

Let's just say weird. --Redrum 17:40, 7 December 2016 (MST)

Hay kydo[edit]

I don't have it on the wiki as of yet it's in a word file on my PC can I e Mail you a copy my email is --Dwarik forgehart (talk) 21:12, 30 November 2016 (MST)

NFKR race[edit]

When you said that you'll send a message to my YouTube channel, you can't. I don't have a YouTube channel. I'm not linked to any form if social media. Don't get my name mixed up with Jimbles Notronbo.

To quote: "It's not attacking someone when they're jokes made by the same person who got "attacked" Jimbles (talk) 11:55, 20 December 2016 (MST)"
You are also the first User listed in the page's history, and are attributed with its creation. Are you saying that you are the person in those videos, or are you saying you are repeating jokes that they themselves have made? (I have only watched two random videos from the channel and saw no sign of that type of content.)
Whether or not you are Roman, attacking one's self is still an attack, albeit a very sad one. I do not like the precedent that sets. Out of context, people could easily interpret that as justification for far less pleasant "joke" content about real people. Consensus shapes a wiki, so we need to be careful about what kinds of trends we allow each other to promote.
In any case, I'm sending him a message to find out if he is aware of the page at the very least. I've only had access to my phone for most of the day, so it'll have to wait until I can use my desktop.
In the mean time, I started a discussion topic regarding how we identify and deal with vandalism. I suggest you participate, because as far as I can tell, it's a discussion we never put enough thought into before. Having perspectives from all sides of the issue will probably get us better results. I'm not against you, even if I'm not a fan of the page that set this off. --Kydo (talk) 23:53, 22 December 2016 (MST)
I can contact NFKRZ, the youtuber in this situation, on twitter. Kanye West (talk) 00:12, 23 December 2016 (MST) head to 1:53 on the video. He starts talking about himself being a meme. Kanye West (talk) 00:30, 23 December 2016 (MST) I'm waiting for NFKRZ to reply. Kanye West (talk) 00:48, 23 December 2016 (MST)

A more private way?[edit]

Is there a way to privately speak to someone on the wiki? Talk pages are awesome, but sometimes I would like to say things to others without having others see. SansGenocide (talk) 22:59, 24 December 2016 (MST)

If the user allows for emails, you can email him or her. Just use Special:EmailUser. --Green Dragon (talk) 07:03, 25 December 2016 (MST)
Contacting me by email is a bad idea. I get upwards of 100 emails a day. Almost all of it is junk because my wife uses my email to sign up for stuff, make purchases, and play stupid Facebook games. So I never check my email. --Kydo (talk) 08:33, 26 December 2016 (MST)

Hey, Kydo![edit]

Merry Christmas you bagel.

Merry Christmas. --Kydo (talk) 08:25, 26 December 2016 (MST)
Happy New Year. --Redrum 17:04, 28 December 2016 (MST)

Adapting Adventures[edit]

Hey Kydo.
A while ago, I created Adapting Adventures: Hoard of the Dragon Queen (5e Quest), Adapting Adventures: Out of the Abyss (5e Quest) and Adapting Adventures: Storm King's Thunder (5e Quest), however, I am unsure as to how they should be classified so that they can be more easily located. Perhaps somewhere in 5e Other? SirSprinkles (talk) 03:35, 2 January 2017 (MST)

Sounds good to me, but perhaps they should be linked from 5e Quests as well? --Kydo (talk) 03:49, 2 January 2017 (MST)
I have started an organizational hub for these kinds of pages. See the new header on 5e Quests. I'm not 100% sure that stemming from quests is a perfect home, but for now it seems to make sense. --Kydo (talk) 12:13, 2 January 2017 (MST)
Thanks Kydo. SirSprinkles (talk) 12:38, 2 January 2017 (MST)

sentient weapons[edit]

A couple of my players want sentient versions of the Holy Avenger and Sunblade weapons. Are there any arguments that I can use against them? --Redrum 15:41, 14 January 2017 (MST)

What are your reasons for not wanting sentient weapons in your game? Have you read Garg and Moonslicer? There are more arguments in favor of more content of varying types, as opposed to those in favor of restricting content variety. --Kydo (talk) 22:57, 15 January 2017 (MST)
They read a couple too many of the old Lone Wolf gamebooks by Joe Dever for my liking. My biggest concern is that they would want a Magnamund campaign and I don't have access to that much of the source material. --Redrum 17:38, 18 January 2017 (MST)
I'd be put off by that as well- I have no idea who or what any of that is. It sounds like the series is already a game in its fundamental state though. Interactive fiction and roleplaying are not interchangeable art forms, and converting one to be compatible with the other... would be very difficult... to say the least. The underlying purpose of each mode of expression are in conflict with one another. In IF, the objective is to include the audience as an element in the narrative. In RP, the audience is the narrative. Personally, I'd explain to them that I am extremely underqualified to run a campaign in that setting, lack the resources to become knowledgeable, that it would take a very long time for me to do so AND prepare a game based on that knowledge, and that the results might not even be worth it. That said, yoiu should read that series and mine it for inspiration. Milk that cow for all it's worth. --Kydo (talk) 18:36, 18 January 2017 (MST)

Side Adventure[edit]

What is your opinion on an adventure involving a 3-headed turkey, poisoned cranberries and a warlock known only as the Pumpkin King? --Redrum 15:49, 14 January 2017 (MST)

It sounds gimmicky. If you're running a comedy game, it'd probably rock. --Kydo (talk) 22:59, 15 January 2017 (MST)


Is it possible to do crude photography in D&D(any edition)? --Redrum 14:00, 21 January 2017 (MST)

I don't see why not. If the DM homebrews cameras and film into the game, gives those items to the players, and also makes items which are described as having images on them, then yeah. --Kydo (talk) 19:29, 21 January 2017 (MST)
In the 3.5e, you could do a feat that allows Use Magic Device to use the camera and a SPECIAL Craft to make the camera and film. -- 21:49, 11 March 2017 (UTC)
That's a nice way of integrating a specific modern technology into a fantasy setting, yes. I still feel the most elegant solution is to simply give them an object called "camera" and tell them it does all of the things a camera can do. --Kydo (talk) 11:49, 14 March 2017 (UTC)

D&D Wiki Plays D&D[edit]

I am currently doing a test-run of a PBP game of D&D. If you're reading this and interested: You're Invited! --Kydo (talk) 21:16, 22 January 2017 (MST)

Sadly, due to problems in my real life, the game, and my hobby activities in general, is on indefinite hiatus. I apologize for any inconvenience. --Kydo (talk) 07:04, 17 February 2017 (MST)

Quick Question about the PBP Game.[edit]

I'm Frank I came across this website while i was looking to learn more about DnD and how it works, I've always wanted to play DnD but it is a very difficult game to play in South Africa where i am from, I was wondering if there is a possibility that i can join the game that was posted on the 21st of Jan. I'm a complete novice to DnD but i've been playing RPG for many years mainly video games like Final Fantasy and World of Warcraft. if its not to late let me know if i can join and where and how i can set up a character and read up on the rules and such and whether my time zone will be a issue, I'm on GMT+2 whihc is about 7hrs ahead of MST which i assume is the timezone you guys use. thanks Sk3tz0 (talk) 10:02, 28 January 2017 (MST)

I'm not Kydo (obviously), but there is a free version of the rules available here that covers the basics. Most of the rules there can also be referenced on the site here. We also have user-created homebrew content, but you should probably steer away from that until you're familiar with the rules (and tabletop RPGs in general). The book in the first link will help you to create a character and learn how things like skills, abilities and combat work.
The page for the campaign Kydo is running has a button somewhere that will create a character sheet (where your character stats, etc. go) for you. After you have read over the character creation rules, you could optionally try using this site to help guide you through building your character, then copy the information from it into your character sheet on the wiki. I'm new to D&D 5e as well, so I can't help much for rules clarification, but I hope this helps get you start.
Finally, many of us are across different timezones. I seem to recall someone being GMT+5 or GMT+8 (Kydo is GMT-6, I think), so I think you'll be fine :)--GamerAim (talk) 10:29, 28 January 2017 (MST)
Thanks i'll have a look and read up. apologies if i am replying wrong. first time i've ever done writing on a wiki page. Sk3tz0
You're doing fine. You're polite and eloquent, so as far as newbies go, you are far ahead of the game! Speaking of the game, it's open table, so you can join any time! Here's a link: BLOOP! It's pretty heavily modified from the core rules in order to work on the PBP format though- it is not an easy introduction to gaming. If you're willing to put up with a steep learning curve, we're willing to help you. Now, you mentioned that you're in South Africa? In addition to the resources cited above by GamerAim, it may interest you to know that an Internet celebrity in the gaming community is based out of there! His YouTube pages can be found at...
  • Bacon Battalion shows actual game play and he does a series called "Be a Great Player", both of which are excellent sources of lonely fun.
  • How to be a Great GM is his other channel, and it gives a lot of insight into what's going on on the other side of the screen. --Kydo (talk) 12:02, 28 January 2017 (MST)
Thanks I made a discussion post but i dont see it, not sure if i placed in the right area or labelled it correctly. See here it was basically just on using dice and character creation. --Sk3tz0 (talk) 12:18, 28 January 2017 (MST)
Aha! Found it! Not sure why it wouldn't show up though. I'll respond to it and sort out its categories so the wiki will transclude it properly. --Kydo (talk) 12:43, 28 January 2017 (MST)

Kayne West[edit]

I promise to avoid Mr. West from now on. --Redrum 13:53, 28 January 2017 (MST)


Hey Kydo, do you think the Scavenger (5e Background) is complete enough to be included as an example background for the 5e Background Design Guide? SirSprinkles (talk) 23:38, 29 January 2017 (MST)

I've always thought it was rather cool every time I read it, it reminds me of the adventure hooks in the northern planes of Thunder Rift. Just a glance, it seems fine. Is it a good example of something in specific though? --Kydo (talk) 01:27, 30 January 2017 (MST)
I think that its an example of how not every background feature has to be an entirely new thing. The keen eye feature was heavily based on the sage's researcher. SirSprinkles (talk) 02:39, 30 January 2017 (MST)
Agreed. It's totally acceptable to just remix and reskin stuff other people invented in new and interesting ways. In some ways, it's preferable. --Kydo (talk) 02:44, 30 January 2017 (MST)
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