Talk:Sea Serpent (5e Creature)

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Featured Article Nomination[edit]

Yes check.svg.png — This article became a featured article! --Green Dragon (talk) 15:37, 2 June 2017 (UTC)

Together with the young sea serpent this is a good featured article. --Green Dragon (talk) 15:54, 29 May 2017 (UTC)

  • Comment: An image needs to be added to this page. --Green Dragon (talk) 15:54, 29 May 2017 (UTC)
Works now. --Green Dragon (talk) 15:37, 2 June 2017 (UTC)

Image/Formatting[edit]

That image is scrunching some of the text into a tiny column to the left it, making it difficult to read. Please fix it :)--GamerAim (talk) 16:46, 30 May 2017 (UTC)

What resolution are you using? --Green Dragon (talk) 16:55, 30 May 2017 (UTC)
Just a standard 1336x786 monitor, but isn't there some fancy way we can have text wrap below the image ala Microsoft Word? There's gotta be some sort of fancy wiki magic we can cast to solve this sort of issue :/--GamerAim (talk) 16:59, 30 May 2017 (UTC)
I think the only chance would be to use columns, with a 100% width for the image. Maybe you can figure something out, or see if this will work. Maybe someone knows of a workaround trick? --Green Dragon (talk) 17:05, 30 May 2017 (UTC)
I, too, get a tiny column of single words and part-words at 1280x1024. I could try codeattack it if nobody else has luck, but I don't know what we actually want. An image that spans across the entire right half of the article, with the description below it, I'm guessing? --SgtLion (talk) 18:24, 30 May 2017 (UTC)
Yes, that would be best. At 1920x1080 they both look great right now. --Green Dragon (talk) 19:06, 30 May 2017 (UTC)
Ok, how is the image now? --Green Dragon (talk) 18:28, 1 June 2017 (UTC)
You're a real miracle worker, GD! It looks A+.--GamerAim (talk) 19:14, 1 June 2017 (UTC)
Woah, you did it. And I still don't understand how that code works. I love it. Nice one. --SgtLion (talk) 21:49, 6 June 2017 (UTC)

A couple suggestions[edit]

How would you feel about adding the Siege Monster trait and giving the serpent a swallow attack a la the tarrasque? I feel that both would fit the monster well (though I'd actually probably use the swallow attack of the remorhaz or purple worm). --Geodude671 (talk) 00:18, 3 June 2017 (UTC)

Image[edit]

I think there's a problem with the image File:Serpent Sapphire.jpg, which was uploaded under a CC3 license. The source is no longer available and no credit is given to the artist. For now, I have replaced the image with a free-to-use alternative. 01:59, 21 December 2023 (MST)

After a quick look, the original image may have been mis-licensed on wikispaces. I wasn't able to find the original artist after searching with several different engines, so replacing the image is the right call. — Geodude Chatmod.png (talk | contribs | email)‎‎ . . 10:57, 21 December 2023 (MST)

Official[edit]

There is already a sea serpent in Fizban's Treasury of Dragons. This needs to be a variant article. --Jerrytheemouse0911 (talk) 18:53, 23 January 2024 (MST)

Those creatures have slightly different names, being the young sea serpent and ancient sea serpent. If Fizban's has a creature called just sea serpent, yes this page would need to be moved and a reference page created for Fizban's sea serpent, but since the names are different, this page does not need to be moved. --Blobby383b (talk) 11:15, 26 January 2024 (MST)
I just checked and you are correct. Although the CR's make no sense in this context, I am still dead wrong. Feel free to slap me with a wet trout for that blunder. --Jerrytheemouse0911 (talk) 17:08, 5 February 2024 (MST)

CR[edit]

  • Ignoring swallow and the potential of one player-character being restrained, this creature does ~60 damage per round with a +14 to hit. According to DMG p274 this is an offensive CR of 12.
  • This creature has 313 hp and 17 AC with no other significant defensive traits. According to the DMG this is a defensive CR of 16.
  • Averaging these two, per DMG guidance, gives a CR of 14.

It's a bit more difficult to quantify swallow but it can be used at most once in the first 3 rounds of combat, so I don't think that plus maybe restraining one party member is worth a whopping +4 to CR.

At first pass the CR 18 seems like an inadequate estimation. But maybe I'm missing something? - Guy 21:10, 22 March 2024 (MDT)

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