Discussion:D&D WIki Magazine
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 D&D WIki Magazine
 ShadowyFigure 08:06, 8 July 2008 (MDT)
I was wandering whether anyone would be interested in say making a online Magazine by D&D Wiki, we could have say 10 articles compiled into a PDF that are developed by a team who would be put together. People could even submit articles themselves.
 Lord Dhazriel 14:12, 20 September 2008 (MDT)
That would be very nice, I would be interested in such project. It would make D&D wiki even more popular!
I agree. I'd be happy to help with this Risek 10:45, 3 October 2008 (MDT)
I too love this idea, it would be a great platform, not only to promote the Wiki, but to help others get a handle on the new 4e system.
Before we get started on that, maybe we should work on fixing up a few obvious warts of the wiki before promoting it? Namely changing the featured article.
 Lord Dhazriel 13:42, 3 October 2008 (MDT)
We should include 3.5e and 4e, may people are still on older editions.
 ShadowyFigure 16:41, 3 October 2008 (MDT)
Yeh a collective of 4e and 3.5 stuff would be good. Stuff included could be mechanics, plot hooks, fluff articles ect...
Yeah 3.5 can be there, but it should be a minor portion given 4e is the current official edition and we should promote that more so the Wiki is presented as being something intended for the future more then just a warehouse for older material.
 Lord Dhazriel 18:48, 3 October 2008 (MDT)
50%-50% is alway better, as long as there eager Wikier to do both we should be alright. And I mean there more than enough for both edition.
Hmmmm......I think, no matter what, this thing needs to feature plushies.
 Green Dragon 11:19, 22 October 2008 (MDT)
I must say, I like this idea as well. Anyway, do we want it all done (the submitting of articles, etc) on D&D Wiki, or how should we make this work out?
I think if something was worked out like say, whoever wants in on it, raises their hands and calls out a position that needs to be filled, like editor, proofreader/copy-checker, layout/design and of course writers. Said volunteers can contact each other via email (or use the Tavern for real-time discussion. The Wiki Magazine team could set their own deadlines and work it however they wanted, releasing an issue every 2 months or whatever works for everyone. I'm sure our community has people who'd like to participate in such a thing, so, how about a show of hands? --Ganteka 11:36, 22 October 2008 (MDT)
I like show of hands (I wouldn't mind being a copy editor as well as writer). We can always vote if multiple people want the editor role.
I love this idea, if I'm needed, I'll help.
 Lord Dhazriel 13:01, 22 October 2008 (MDT)
Im in, I love this idea.
Not that we could actually expect a large success from this, but I think if it is to apply to a wider audience we should make it both 3.5 and 4th edition compatible.
What categories of articles would we have? Just off the top of my head we could have:
- Monsters -- new monsters done in both 3.5 and 4th edition
- Critical Threat -- an NPC badass that is meant to be a tough solo encounter. This was one of my favorite articles from Dungeon.
- Prestige Classes -- Perhaps make a paragon or epic tier option for 4th edition
- Something relating to Endhaven (our house wiki campaign setting). Or we could start a new collaborative wiki campaign setting and publish an article relating to that setting each issue.
- I like a lot of these ideas, except I'm unsure of needing to present new monsters in both 3.5 and 4th ed. It should be one or the other, again with a greater slant toward 4e. And as D&D has moved on to a new edition then perhaps we should begin a new collaborative campaign setting with that cosmology in mind. -- Sepsis 00:30, 25 October 2008 (MDT)
How about 1 full adventure/quest per issue? It doesn't need to be very long and will show the creativity of our users.
I like the new quest each issue. Good idea.
As far as making monsters in both 3.5 and 4th, that is easy. Make the fluff the same, but have the stats different.
Hmmm....I feel like we should do a class thing like Dragon does, perhaps only one a month (All in favor of Warlock?). Also it should have a featured race, or convert the monster(s) of that issue(?) into race stats.
The conversion of Monster to PC race, for those not already converted in the MMs or Dragon (maybe even feature stuff from the Wiki), sounds good. But we should not try to mirror Dragon too much, it might create redundances or conflicts with officalish material (Dragon may be non-canon, but many hobbyists hold it close to heart). We could also focus on new Feats for various Monster races, they all are lacking in that area. Also we might want to focus on updating and converting Classes, Races, Monsters, etc. from 3.5 to 4e (even some of the online Homebrew) to give back some of what folks feel they have lost. And we could even feature materail from the Wiki, perhaps expanding on Monsters, Races, Items, etc. to flesh them out more and add a different spin to some of it. Particularly how they may be added to the new 4e Wiki Campaign Setting.
Content for the Mag seems well thought out at this point, but several issues need to be addressed before we can move forward. The most important is the formation of a Staff. The Staff should focus on several areas the most important being the editing, critiquing, and playtesting of submitted material. At the moment there is too much Wiki content that is incomplete, badly written, or broken, and that is something we must not allow in the magazine. Also content should remain fantasy oriented some off our worst offenses in terms of broken material comes from things derived from sci-fi and/or cartoons being shoehorned into medievil fantasy settings, with the caviat of "its homebrew I do what I like" as the only justification. This mentality cannot creep into the Magazine. If we want this to not only be a useful aid to hobbyists, but a platform for raising intrest in submissions, we need to show that we are a valuable source of worthwhile material. Not just a place where any random thought can be vomitted up and allowed to clutter the scenery. While I'm not saying folks do not have the right to homebrew from whatever source they wish, I just believe that at least in the case of the Magazine we must insure it is well written and as balanced as possible.
Suggested Staff Positions:
- Editor-in-Chief - The guy who decided first if something is acceptable to be considered for publication. Also can veto any submission once it has been fully edited and tested. Also assigns people to other staff positions. The logical person for this is Green Dragon.
- Continuity Editor - Makes sure the submission does not overly conflict or rewrite an officially published item. Campaign Sourcebooks would be excluded from this critique (info in them is Campaign specific, and not not generally binding to standard rules), unless submission is specific to a published setting. As well Campaign based submissions (ie. for Wiki Campaign Setting,or Contributors Campaign Setting) may be exempt from this at editors descretion.
- Style Editor - Makes sure spelling and grammer is correct.
- Playtesters - 3 or 4 members who independently playtest appropriate submissions to insure balance and playablity.
At any point one of these people can return a submission to the Editor-in-Chief with their reasons for reconsideration, if the Editor-in-Chief agrees the submission is returned to contributor for requested corrections. This is only a suggestion of course and any feedback on staffing would be apprieciated.
 Lord Dhazriel 16:15, 26 October 2008 (MDT)
Yeah, we also need writers (obviously), but we also need more volunteers.
I would love to be a contributor, I have an article for running Cambion PCs brewing in my head (you may want to look at my Cambion racial write up...its the "Alternate Version"). Maybe Green Dragon could put out a call for volunteer Editors and Playtesters on the Main Page. But these would all have to be long time members, who have shown an ability to create well written and balanced material. They would also have to understand this could eat into their personal time, so some sacrifice would be needed. Although each Editor should probably be allowed to make use of one or two assistants to help out if needed. Also someone (perhaps the Editor-in-Chief) will need to be in charge of doing the Magazine's Layout (just to insure it flows well from one article to the next), as well each Editor should take turns writing an Editorial each month to help provoke thought for new content, or even just discuss something that may be of general intrest to the RPG gaming community.
I'd be willing to help, especially now that I'm back from the dead and all. I've always been interested in something like this, as it strikes me that very few things on here actually get played. If we can attract more users, that'd really get the dandwiki name out there a lot more.
I have given this some thought and I realized this is not going to happen until someone decides to step up and get the ball rolling.
On that note, I am going to get this magazine going even though being the General Editor is a really bad job for me since I am not here enough to do a great job. We can figure out who wants to do what with our first run of the magazine and once everyone is more comfortable, I'm sure someone will be able to take the General Editor position and I can become a writer/copy editor (which would suit me a lot better).
Take a look at the following page and sign up: D&D Wiki Magazine. (I'm not attributing it to 3.5e or 4th edition. Eventually, we will probably have to move it to a new namespace).
 21:16, 25 November 2008 (MST)
I just now saw this and would like to help in any way needed. So what is the main goal? I read earlier about 10 articles. Maybe one quest/adventure, one npc highlight, one class highlight, one setting highlight, one spell highlight, one race highlight, etc.??
Well you can read about the first issue at D&D Wiki Magazine/Issue 1. Sign up by editing the page and putting what you want to work on.
Suggestion: Make an 'adopt an article' competition. You adopt n article that isn't finished and then you work on it to make it playable, balanced and keep the same flavor. Another thing we could do is have a competition with a theme.
 07:45, 26 November 2008 (MST)
Yeah, I was thinking of items to add and thought maybe an issue theme would be appropriate. I.e. issue 4 is all about Aquatic adventures, aquatic races, items, etc. That way each issue comes together some how. Just a thought. If anyone likes it and has a suggestion for Issue 1 theme then it would be easier to decide what to pick.
ooh, nice idea Hooper
The theme for idea is explosives.. well.. basically anything that goes boom.
 --Cool Dude 123 (talk) 22:11, 18 May 2012 (MDT)
What happened to this?
 Cool Dude 123 (talk) 18:38, 30 May 2012 (MDT)
 Green Dragon (talk) 20:04, 30 May 2012 (MDT)
No one took initiative. Since this will, likely, continue to be the case I don't know if a magazine is such a good idea.
 Cool Dude 123 (talk) 22:55, 7 June 2012 (MDT)
I'd be willing to make the magazine, if no one is willing.
I would also help. We probably need a few people for this to work properly.
 Cool Dude 123 (talk) 16:13, 15 June 2012 (MDT)
Thanks Busterw, now we need Green Dragon to look at this.
 Green Dragon (talk) 17:18, 15 June 2012 (MDT)
Do some edits to it. I can't let you know what I think and discuss where it belongs on D&D Wiki without seeing what you are talking about.
 Marasmusine (talk) 01:27, 16 June 2012 (MDT)
My time is limited, but I might be able to lend a hand. I can proofread, and if the intention is to still publish it as a PDF, I can publish it on my Scribd account. I could also do some kind of editorial, like a "Wiki Tips and Tricks", or "What we Need / How you can Help" sort of article. Marasmusine (talk) 01:27, 16 June 2012 (MDT)
 Cool Dude 123 (talk) 15:17, 19 June 2012 (MDT)
Maramusine can be a General Editor, I could be a writer, and Busterw could be a writer as well. I am writing this post based on what you guys wrote in your posts, I am going to make the changes to Magazine:Main Page. If you don't like your positions, write it here, and change it on the Magazine Page. I am going to try to start writing the first issue of the restarted magazine. I am also going to start writing up a campaign setting for the magazine. Due to the first issue of the original magazine being fire, I'm going to name the new one Fire Power.
 Marasmusine (talk) 04:58, 4 July 2012 (MDT)
Notify me when all the submissions are ready and I'll try and mash them together into a coherent whole. Keep your eye out for wiki entries that are thematically appropriate and are of high quality.
Okay, this is a question for Green Dragon. I'm hoping to publish the magazine as a PDF on Scribd. Any illustrations I use will be either public domain or Creative Commons, and the magazine itself needs to be Creative Commons. Naturally I will be crediting all of our users that contributed to any articles we use. The Wiki is under a GNU license - is this compatable with Creative Commons? Marasmusine (talk) 05:17, 4 July 2012 (MDT)
 Green Dragon (talk) 09:54, 4 July 2012 (MDT)
|“||c) By uploading User Content, You hereby warrant that Your User Content is free of any digital rights management, including any software designed to limit the number of times User Content may be copied or played.||”|
And since D&D Wiki uses the GNU FDL you should keep everything under the GNU FDL (they are compatible as you can read above). Or just upload your PDF on D&D Wiki (it should be small enough) and it can be downloaded here.
 Green Dragon (talk) 15:49, 4 July 2012 (MDT)
The DRM states "Registration as a Prerequisite to Suit", pp. 3 dealing mostly with copyright.
 Cool Dude 123 (talk) 01:38, 18 July 2012 (MDT)
Could someone advertise this somewhere, like on the main page so people can make submissions.
For content to put in the Mag, I think it would be good to have a position to search the wiki for adequate articles, and ask the creator for permission to include the article. We would not want to rely solely on these articles for content, but it would give us a good base. As for what to include in each Mag, we could have:
- Monster (One monster, shown for both 3.5e and 4e)
- Class (2 3.5e classes, 2 4e classes)
- Race (One race, shown for both 3.5e and 4e. If the Monster can be used by PCs, you would also include the Player Race version of it here.)
- Quest (one quest idea, as proposed by GaaaaaH)
- Critical Threat (an NPC badass that is meant to be a tough solo encounter, as proposed by Aarnott, and one Optimized Character Build)
- Prestige Classes (1 3.5e PrC, and 1 4e paragon or epic tier option, as proposed by Aarnott)
- Campaign (If we manage to start a new collaborative wiki campaign setting, we would include something about it in each issue)
- Equipment (One weapon, one material, two magic enhancements (one for armor, one for weapons), and two "named" magic items)
Hooper's idea for themed issues is great; we could maybe cycle through a list of 6, and release a new issue every other month. Ideas for themes are: Steampunk/Technology, Aquatic, Psionics, Dragons, Fiery, Planes (not the flying kind), Flight based, Underground, Divine, Arcane, and Feature (special issue that has no real theme, but includes the best stuff we can find on the wiki.)