Talk:Axe Legion (5e Creature)
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What exactly is the issue with the health and alignment? It uses the same model as the Artificer's Steel Defender. If a DM wants to use this as a normal creature, they can make the health and alignment whatever they want. The Legions were made on separate pages to avoid clutter on the Legionis class page.
- I will admit that I was unaware of this feature as I do not own TCoE, but I still find some of your defenses a bit flimsy. A DM could make ANY creature have any hit points or alignment, that doesn't excuse a creature being fundamentally incomplete (see Help:A Good DM). The hit point calculation is fine as a class feature, but a player using a legion would at some point fight another legion if it's an incorporated part of the world, so it would make sense to just give a traditional hit point calculation and alignment and state in the feature that "the Legion you summon has a number of hit points equal to the Legion's Constitution modifier + your Wisdom modifier + three times your level in the legionis class, and its alignment is the same as yours". --Ref3rence (talk) 15:07, 22 February 2021 (MST)
It now has the supplement tag. Also, why are the Hit Points and alignment only an issue on this particular Legion and not the others?
- Yes, it has the supplement tag, but that doesn’t change the fact that the hit points and alignment have not been resolved. I haven’t bothered stubbing the other pages because I’m hoping that we can come to a consensus here, and then make similar changes to the others. Keeping discussion on one page is much easier to manage. --Ref3rence (talk) 17:03, 24 February 2021 (MST)
I changed it all. While I do see your point in that giving them specific HP and alignment makes it easier on the DM, I still do not think it was entirely necessary given how I made these to operate like the steel defender. You could make the same argument for it, but Wizards still did not give it specific HP or alignment. But again, I do see your point.
- Okay, I'm not very good at reading up, but certainly that clutter problem could be solved by putting them at the end of the class page, in their own sections. That way the features are unbroken by anything and you can just refer to the bottom via inpages or something. Nothing a few titles won't fix. --SwankyPants (talk) 17:27, 24 February 2021 (MST)