Talk:Requests for Adminship

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Question[edit]

I was just wondering why, on each individual RfA page, the person's name is linked in such an odd way? For example:

Valentine the Rogue's Nomination.

In the above, like on every page, the person with the RfA's main name only links to the page you're already viewing when seeing it, while the "'s" links to their user page. I would think that having the name link to the user page would be easier for people trying to learn about the individual up for Adminship. I was just curious, as I always noticed and didn't know if there was some coding reason for this.   Hooper   talk    contribs    email   21:38, 23 August 2009 (MDT)

Oh, it's just an idea I had which was tried out on the UA material earlier (and I am thinking would be good to add to CS's). For example Marvel Universe (DnD Campaign Setting)/Races]] --Green Dragon 22:09, 23 August 2009 (MDT)
Ah, okay. Yeah the same has been done on some of the really long pages before, and worked out well.   Hooper   talk    contribs    email   06:16, 24 August 2009 (MDT)

Categories[edit]

I noted that some of the older pages used Category:Admin Request while the newer pages have Category:Requests for Adminship, with some of the most recent having both. Then, some of the ones in the middle had no category whatsoever. I wasn't sure why the seemingly duplicate categories, but I did go ahead and make all the RfAs have both so that they are universal until it is decided if only one - and as such, which one - may be necessary.   Hooper   talk    contribs    email   11:21, 10 September 2009 (MDT)

Single Purpose / New Accounts[edit]

This was brought up on another page so I'm bringing it up here. The discussion seems relevant given recent events. Wikipedia, the site we've modeled many of our existing policies after, has a few relevant policies and guidelines they use in their RfA process. Firstly, they outright state that users being nomineed that have a low edit count are less likely to make it. Never do they say they can't attempt to, but it seems like anything less than 1,000 edits never gets through. Should we have a "minimum edit" count? Next, administrators monitor active RfAs and any new editors who vote are watched closely. Basically, most new-to-wiki editors don't have enough of an understanding of wiki code and practices to be already involved in RfA voting in just one or two edits (or 100, for that matter it seems). Most of the times these are single-purpose accounts that can skew the data of a valid RfA one way or the other for that user's personal reasons. I believe that we should require a set length of active time and/or minimum number of edits for a user's RfA vote to be counted. This isn't to be exclusive, but just to prevent wiki-crusades. Defining exactly how we plan on doing this will be great in the coming years.   Hooper   talk    contribs    email   14:26, 17 February 2010 (UTC)

(Precursor: I might be biased because any reasonable edit limit would probably exclude me!) Meh, I'm not sure how much help a minimum edit count would be in limiting RfA votes for this particular wiki. It's not large enough for someone to rack up a lot of edits through busywork, and it's not inclusive enough to rack up edits on new pages unless you are really creative. On Wikipedia you can create an article on almost anything, but here you are limited to new campaign material. That means that if you aren't currently running a D&D (or d20 Modern) campaign or aren't good with creating new classes, etc, you are reduced to just busywork.
Secondly, there are people who have had thousands of wiki edits, just not on this site. If you only look at my record on this site, you might be surprised at what I understand about a wiki's function (technically, socially, and politically). But I've made over 8,000 edits spanning 2+ years... on other wikis.
It might, however, be useful to create a minimum age for an account, though. My 8,000 edits elsewhere don't mean diddly squat for understanding the kinds of contributions a user has made here without combing through their edits (though I bet that the majority of people voting on WP RfA's don't know the user by name either, so maybe I'm wrong here). I choose not to vote for this reason, but other users may not choose this route. How long are RfA's, two weeks? It might not be a bad idea to set a policy that no user younger than two weeks can vote in an RfA. This way nobody can sign up for the sole purpose of voting for or against someone, and it almost completely eliminates sock- and meatpuppetry without a long, preplanned campaign. (And in the case of the latter, good luck creating a minimum edit or time policy that eliminates these users anyway). JazzMan 14:54, 17 February 2010 (UTC)
There is quite a bit more busywork here than many realize. God, just the double redirects alone can drive a man insane.   Hooper   talk    contribs    email   15:00, 17 February 2010 (UTC)
Perhaps, but that's the sort of thing that really should be done by a bot. And it's also not something that adds any real familiarity with the project, so I'd argue that someone who reached a minimum edit count can't count menial tasks like fixing double redirects. What I'm talking about is hitting Random Page (erm, which I see isn't in the sidebar) and finding things that need fixing. So much of the content on this wiki is subject to an individuals preferences, so unless you are writing new material you are reduced to grammar and formatting. And really, this site's pretty good at those two things (for the most part). I've been trolling the recent changes the last couple of weeks and I've maybe brought my edit count up from 20 to 38 (including this one). I'm not saying that it can't be done, as obviously some people have no problem with it. I'm just saying that unless it is uselessly low, any edit count minimum will exclude people who shouldn't be, and there's no guarantee it's excluding the people that should be excluded. JazzMan 23:10, 20 February 2010 (UTC) <-- *goes to hit the random page button a couple more times :)
Yeah, I've got a Random Pages link on my user page that I love, and wish it was available on our main navigation. But even an edit count of 50 or 100 would kill the problem for most accounts.   Hooper   talk    contribs    email   23:21, 20 February 2010 (UTC)

Question[edit]

Why are there so many "Past Admins" here? Are they removed for inactivity or resigned or what?Zau 14:46, 22 February 2012 (MST)

Varying reasons. Some quit, some were voted out, some disappeared. Take a look at the secondary nominations to see the reason for each person. JazzMan 15:36, 22 February 2012 (MST)
I see. Thanks! Zau 17:58, 22 February 2012 (MST)
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