Talk:Zangoose (5e Race)

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Zangoose[edit]

Cost Racial Trait
2 Dexterity score increases by 2.
0.5 Darkvision
0.5 Poison Resistance
0.5 Toxic Boost
0.5 Crush Claw
3 Grudge-Bearer (See below)
7 Total.

Racial feat: Grudge-bearer = 3.5

Cost Racial Trait
1 Increase your Strength, Constitution, or Wisdom score by 1, to a maximum of 20.
0.5 During the first round of any combat against your chosen foes, your attack rolls against any of them have advantage.
0.5 When any of your chosen foes makes an opportunity attack against you, it makes the attack roll with disadvantage.
1 Whenever you make an Intelligence (Arcana, History, Nature, or Religion) check to recall information about your chosen foes, you add double your proficiency bonus to the check, even if you’re not normally proficient.
3 Total.

Edit: Added Darkvision because, hey, it's classified as a Cat Ferret pokemon, so it makes sense it'd have it.

Zangoose was an interesting race to try pulling off. Toxic Boost makes things interesting if you somehow fail your saving throws against being poisoned by giving you a bit of extra damage even though you'll be making attack rolls at disadvantage due to your condition. I marked it as a 0.5 because of this, and the fact that it only gives 1d4 of extra damage. Natural Enemy was meant to try to incorporate Zangoose's hatred for Seviper, but of course expanding it to other snakes (mostly because, at the time of this post, I have yet to create Seviper as a monster...or ANY pokemon as a monster). It could probably do with some rewording, but it scored a -0.5 because, despite the fact that it forces a player to undergo a self-imposed Dominate Person and blindly attack snakes while in combat, there weren't many snake-type monsters in the Monster Manual. That and they were of relatively low CR with the highest being 2, although I suppose despite this a DM could be evil and take advantage of even the lowest CR snake monster. I might add a saving throw, but other than that I suppose we'll have to see if this can be adjusted better unless people find it ok as is. Natural Enemy was removed.

The Dwarf's Grudge-Bearer acts similarly to Deep-Gnome's Svirfneblin Magic trait, as it's a feat available to them but one that they don't start out with (hence why I specified that Zangoose could take it despite not being a Dwarf). Since no rating was given for Grudge-bearer (possibly because it's from Unearthed Arcana), I had to make a rating for it which I hope I did right.

The first bullet point obviously scored a 1 and the fourth bullet point scored a 0.5 because of how similar it was to Stonecunning, but the second and third bullet points were a bit trickier to score. I gave the second bullet point a 0.5 because, despite granting automatic advantage on attack rolls against the chosen race, it only occurred during the first round of combat. However, the third bullet point received a 1.5 because it imposed disadvantage on attack rolls made by the chosen race that would otherwise have been made with advantage at all times (which I felt was sort of a big deal, but perhaps simply a 1 would have sufficed?).

Interestingly enough, the Grudge-Bearer feat for Zangoose was originally going to be limited to just Beasts since every snake (that I'm aware of, barring creatures like Nagas) in the Monster Manual falls under that category, but I decided against it. Despite the fact that it would have made perfect sense, especially in Zangoose's case, it for some reason didn't feel right.

Also Zangoose has turned out to be yet another creature I never expected to score as low as it did, originally scoring a 3.5. After some revisions courtesy of ConcealedLight's help, it's at a more respectable number.--MetalShadowOverlord (talk) 01:33, 28 March 2018 (MDT)

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