Talk:Demon King (5e Class)

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I changed the number of warlocks to two and whats wrong with the tenth level spell?

Too overpowered[edit]

I’m assuming that having a 10th level spell is just to op because normal spellcasters only cast up to 9th level spells but I’m looking through the class and it needs a rework the idea I was shooting for was a demon who makes deals with mortals thinking it would encourage more role play.--Alucarddragonborn (talk) 15:37, 19 April 2020 (MDT)

I have finished the demon king and if someone would look at it so i can figure out how to make it even better. Someone 1:55, 3 june 2020

Hi man. With time, i'll read your class and give you my feedback, because i like the concept a lot.

  • My first issue is this: "At 5th level you can as an action perform a 10-minute ritual to summon one fiend creature..." this takes an action or a ritual 10 minutes? There are other wording mistakes. This could be improved.
  • Dark Contract: You need to explain how you can make a contract with the mortal, if the creature must be willing, if you should make a charisma check or them a saving throw.
  • Summon Greater Fiend: CR 12 is to higher, and the duration too. Maybe drop to CR 6 and reduce the duration too.

Anastacio (talk) 23:39, 17 June 2020 (MDT)

Wrong name and nomenclature[edit]

This class is called "Demon king" But all of the class's theme abilities and fluff flame it as being a devil,this is a banal difference in most forms of media,but in the DnD universe,Demons and Devils are very different kinds of beings.I think The name should be changed to "Devil King" to fit with the assumed setting of DnD.

Vladulenta (talk) 10:54, 3 July 2021 (MDT)

What kind of class is this?[edit]

I am not from the community but I wanted to post my opinion about this class... I can see how this class is "Overpowered", but the guys who mention it are talking way in the higher levels, without considering in what kind of settings would this be too OP, at least that's what I think it is, if I could change something of this class or add something, it would be giving it an extra attack, like, just one, so it can actually fend off against others without depending on it's minions entirely, after all, this class is almost like s paladin, but the entire opposite as this isn't holy at all. Something else that needs a fix is the "Beguiling presence" Feature from the Demon of Deception subclass... Why, would someone place as the only way to retire the charm, would be with a wish spell, and right after that say "Or take damage" why, or how, would that be a good idea, does a fist is the equivalent of a wish spell? Absurd, it's a level 20 feature that is "So good" and absolutely terrible if compared with the other subclass, and before anyone can respond that it's op or something, quick reminder, that it is a level 20 feature, that has a SPECIFIC SAVE DC.

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