Template talk:Welcome Message

Contents 1 Ideas 2 Help Pages 3 Suggestion 4 Organization

[edit] Ideas

Does this sound okay? Better than the old one? What could be improved? Ideas? --Green Dragon 21:41, 6 September 2007 (MDT)

Seems fine to me. It is more informative than the last one, so I prefer it. --Sam Kay 09:14, 7 September 2007 (MDT)

Nice. Again, much more informative. Pwsnafu 19:52, 8 September 2007 (MDT)

Glad to hear that this one is a lot better :). --Green Dragon 22:13, 9 September 2007 (MDT)

[edit] Help Pages

Hey Green, I was wondering if there was a simple way of adding information to the welcome message regarding having a new user put themselves in the proper Classifieds category for their location. Thoughts? Also, perhaps adding a link to the Help:Portal would be good for new users. Thoughts?   Hooper   talk    contribs    email   18:40, 2 September 2009 (MDT)

After I look through the help pages (and organize them more to my liking) I will add something here most likely (;Help or who knows - it makes sense to me too). --Green Dragon 19:06, 21 October 2009 (MDT)

I added something. --Green Dragon 15:32, 13 March 2012 (MDT)

[edit] Suggestion

This is a really, really minor issue, but if you subst the {{PAGENAME}} variable then when the welcome message gets archived it won't say "Hello SoAndSo/Archive 1". Also I'm assuming, because of the way it's formatted, that you copy and paste this onto user talk pages. With a couple of strategically-placed includeonlys I think you should be able to subst the whole thing, which should be a little easier. JazzMan 17:40, 12 April 2010 (UTC)

Can you subst a signature too? --Green Dragon 15:33, 13 March 2012 (MDT)

[edit] Organization

Discussion moved from User talk:Admin#Welcome Message. --Green Dragon 15:31, 13 March 2012 (MDT)

What's the name of the template used to welcome new users? I've looked through the list of templates but couldn't spot it. Marasmusine 01:56, 12 March 2012 (MDT)

You couldn't find it because it is very well hidden. JazzMan 10:52, 12 March 2012 (MDT)

Ah. Ah, ha. I'll go back to manually typing "hello." :)

I put a welcome message there because I am uncertain if we should have one for use on the wiki (ergo a standard). I don't think Wikipedia has one, so I assumed we should do the same. Does this do the job well enough (balancing freedom of expression and precedents) or maybe a standard welcome message is better (so people know what to say, what is important, etc)? --Green Dragon 20:50, 12 March 2012 (MDT)

WP has a dizzying number of them to suit different preferences (long, short, graphical, plain, etc). I think yours is pretty good - we'll need a variant for non-admins to use, too. Marasmusine 03:08, 13 March 2012 (MDT)

I changed the wording a bit and moved the template, so it should be accessible and work for all users now. --Green Dragon 15:31, 13 March 2012 (MDT)

Wouldn't it be easier, since it's now a template, to get rid of all the "remove me" stuff? Instead of copy/pasting just treat it like any other template? It should be SUBST'd though, instead of left as a dynamic link. Also I'm not sure why we constantly feel the need to move discussions. This one made perfect sense where it is. JazzMan 14:51, 16 March 2012 (MDT)

Can you substitute a signature or would one's signature be added after the substitution? The discussion was moved since it is about this template. --Green Dragon 19:44, 16 March 2012 (MDT)

If you make the signature a variable I don't see why it shouldn't work. Testing with the deletion template:

I've commented it out, but you can see the results of typing {{SUBST:Delete|~~~~~|Because I said so ~~~}}. JazzMan 10:13, 22 March 2012 (MDT)

Ya, so it's the same problem (the date/user name is stamped). --Green Dragon (talk) 17:10, 27 August 2012 (MDT)

I don't see the issue here. Aren't date/times always stamped? When I change my time zone none of the times change. JazzMan 15:17, 28 August 2012 (MDT)

Format it how you are talking about, welcome some new users, and then I, like another user, can try it and make sure it works. --Green Dragon (talk) 16:46, 28 August 2012 (MDT)

There we go. Took me longer than I should have... maybe I should have waited until tomorrow. No matter, I welcomed TimothyLowestv and TheZat and it worked perfectly. JazzMan 19:57, 28 August 2012 (MDT)

No, their names were not substituted. "Hello Welcome Message and welcome to D&D Wiki" and the signature explanation is messed up. --Green Dragon (talk) 09:38, 29 August 2012 (MDT)

Try it now. For some reason it executes signatures within an includeonly tag, even if they are within a nowiki tag. And the Welcome Message thing was because I missed that it substituted somewhere along the way. JazzMan 15:45, 29 August 2012 (MDT)