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Issues with search[edit]

I keep getting this message when searching:

There was a problem with the wiki search. This is probably temporary; try again in a few moments, or you can search the wiki 
through an external search service.

Is this just happening on my end? If so, how do I fix it? -- OptimizationFanatic (talk|contrib) 16:18, 17 May 2008 (MDT)

Same here- just try the external search. Eventually it will fix itself. --Palantini 23:17, 18 May 2008 (MDT)
Thank you for alerting me to this issue! This was due to the downtime last week, and I did not realize that search was not working as a result of this. It should be fixed now. — Blue Dragon (talk) 00:49, 23 May 2008 (MDT)
You're welcome, and thanks for the quick fix! — OptimizationFanatic (talk|contrib) 09:04, 23 May 2008 (MDT)
It's happening again, unfortunately. Just thought I'd tell you. — OptimizationFanatic (talk|contrib) 09:44, 11 June 2008 (MDT)
Thanks again for the report! I feel that I am going to have to add a layer of redundancy or see what is going on with it's now random seeming failures. Thank you for pointing this out! — Blue Dragon (talk) 15:57, 14 June 2008 (MDT)
Occurring yet again. Out of curiosity, are you using Lucene or the default search for Mediawiki? — OptimizationFanatic (talk|contrib) 19:26, 20 July 2008 (MDT)
Lucene. --Green Dragon 20:03, 20 July 2008 (MDT)
It seems to be down again. If I type in the exact thing I'm searching for, it will sometimes find it, others I have to go through the SRD or Homebrew pages. → Kisame93 | Ryan B. (talk to me) 14:05, 13 December 2008 (MST)
Thank you. It should be running now. — Blue Dragon (talk) 19:41, 15 December 2008 (MST)

No Edit for You![edit]

For the last 3-4 days I have been unable to edit, preview, or otherwise alter any pages. I've tried both IE and Firefox on the matter. Now, i can create pages, but I can't do much after, as it will load and time out. Clearing cookies and the like has not helped and I am puzzled that at least once, it has gone through. I don't know if I'll even be able to post this. Can you help me out?

This was the message that Eiji asked me to give you, from the Tavern.-- Ramses IV 20:37, 11 June 2008 (MDT)

After testing via proxy, the problem appears to be with his IP. — OptimizationFanatic (talk|contrib) 21:04, 11 June 2008 (MDT)
Hm... we do not run any extensive blacklists, but do you know if there is a problem with his ISP port connections, or something similar? If you want, I can mirror it on another domain and monitor closely what the problem is. — Blue Dragon (talk) 15:58, 14 June 2008 (MDT)

Server Info?[edit]

I would like to connect to the Tavern via my own irc client and would like to request the server information.

Thank you. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by (talkcontribs) 14:22, 12 June 2008 (MST). Please sign your posts.

Hello. The main reason that this is, as of right now, not allowed is due to the naming scheme used. The IRC client builds the nickname from the D&D Wiki name, or uses the IP address. I will think about implementing some way to keep things working properly. Thank you for the suggestion! — Blue Dragon (talk) 15:59, 14 June 2008 (MDT)

Any Plans on Upgrading?[edit]

Do you plan on upgrading MW anytime soon? And I can't seem to use the "View and edit watchlist" link in my watchlist. The browser just goes blank (the "Edit raw watchlist" link still works, though). —Sledged (talk) 10:49, 25 June 2008 (MDT)


There something that bother me a bit, when someone connect on the tavern, the cursor dissapear from the typing bar. If we were erasing something, we got disconnected, if we were type a long text and don't notice, we lose all we were typing. Anyway to fix that? Thank you in advance for your answer.--Lord Dhazriel 17:18, 27 June 2008 (MDT)

This is unfortunately undoable server-side. It's the browser causing the issue, as, if you hit the backspace key and your cursor is not in the text field (which happens automatically when you hit backspace and the field is empty), it understands that you want to go back a page. Perhaps turning off that hotkey in your browser options would help. — OptimizationFanatic (talk|contrib) 19:27, 28 June 2008 (MDT)


Do you have any contact ties to the WikiRPS 'crew'? I hate to use this talk page, and am sorry, but it is perhaps the best chance here. I am interested in resurrecting the WikiRPS project, and getting Cúthalion and others back would really help a lot, so if you could possibly get them, I'd be grateful. If you could also please reply here, it'd be appreciated. I've been fairly active in dirty-polishing some of the pages, but I would feel better if I wasn't alone. Thank you, Minozake, AKA 22:23, 16 July 2008 (MDT)

Tavern Down?[edit]

The tavern says:

Connecting to goldmine [] port 6667
An error occurred: Connecting to IRC: Connection timed out (60 seconds)

Is this a local error or is it an error with the tavern's hosting? --Sabre070 04:08, 20 July 2008 (MDT)

I believe the issue was a power surge were the servers are kept, so the server "goldmine" was down. Anyway, it works now :). --Green Dragon 09:18, 20 July 2008 (MDT)

Tavern Bug Fixing[edit]

I think I have found the source of the backspace bug (using a nifty program called firebug). Would it be possible for you to send me the tavern .cgi files so I can edit them? --Aarnott 06:01, 24 July 2008 (MDT)

Hi Blue Dragon, the backspace bug occurs when a user enters the Tavern. What happens is: you are in the Tavern and another user enters. Your focus on the chat textbox leaves and goes on to the actual web page. So if you were typing something and you start to press backspace to correct a typo (for instance), pressing backspace causes the browser to go back. -- 17:45, 29 August 2008 (MDT)
Oh I wrote that. I wasn't logged in at the time. --Aarnott 17:34, 3 September 2008 (MDT)
Ah, okay! Here is a link to the CGI script that you were looking for. Let me know if this helps! Also, if you want me to work on this problem, then just let me know. — Blue Dragon (talk) 19:55, 3 September 2008 (MDT)

Working on a RPG wiki, and stumped by Semantic Forms.[edit]

A good morning to you sir. :). I am MOST impressed with the tables for flaws, and I would love to implement something similar for my own Wiki. (Immitation is after all the most sincere form of Flattery. :) ) Somewhat adapted for Skills in ArsMagica though.

I see that your Form for flaws uses subst: ... which my own installation doesn't recognize. Is that from MediaWiki SemanticWiki or is there something else I am doing wrong? I really like the idea of being able to add a listing on one place and the skills/npcs/virtues/flaws in another place.

—The preceding unsigned comment was added by Oberoten (talkcontribs) 00:42, 5 August 2008 (MDT). Please sign your posts.

Half hound archon[edit]

can you make a template for a half Hound Archon ? i dont know how to im really new at this and would appreciate the help thanx

Lock up please[edit] could you please lock this

The Innkeeper is gone[edit]

And the tavern seem to have some problem recently, I don't know if it temporary. --Lord Dhazriel 11:51, 5 November 2008 (MST) error[edit]

Earlier (about 15 minutes ago at max) the wiki wouldn't let me connect due to "Too many connections (local host)".. Whats happening? Is this a hosting error or is it due to too many people accessing the wiki? (Possibly a 'denial of service' attack)? --Sabre070 01:53, 17 November 2008 (MST)

Thanks for the error report. What actually happened during that time was I tried to make a backup of the database as quickly as possible. I have realized that this site needs to make periodic backups, and so I have started dumping the database going for speed of the dump instead of an extended period of continued slow use. I think I just chose an arbitrary time... something like 1 AM MST. Do you feel that I should slow the dumping script down so it will take about an hour but the site will be usable throughout that time? Thanks again! — Blue Dragon (talk) 08:17, 17 November 2008 (MST)
I think it would be good to have it fast, just tell people ;) --Sabre070 18:30, 17 November 2008 (MST)

WikiRPS down[edit]

I get a 403 error when I try to access WikiRPS. May I get the status? Minozake 16:58, 18 November 2008 (MST)

Hello Minozake. Thank you for this error report, it should be working now. — Blue Dragon (talk) 08:34, 20 November 2008 (MST)


Can you change people's usernames? I am asking on behalf of User:-Spasm- Who added his -'s (as he does everywhere) without realising that 1) it won't work in the tavern and 2) it looks really bad.. He was wondering if he could remove these from his username? --Sabre070 00:46, 19 November 2008 (MST)

Hello Sabre070. I have made it so that his "-" should be replaced with underscores in the Tavern. Let me know if this doesn't work fully, and also if he wants his name to be changed from within the Wiki also. Thanks! — Blue Dragon (talk) 08:37, 20 November 2008 (MST)

Random Page[edit]

I was wondering if there was any plans or thoughts on putting a "Random Article" link on the navigation menu on the left. Not sure if others find it valuable, but I always personally enjoy finding things I'd never search for myself that way. Just a thought.   Hooper   talk    contribs    email   10:05, 20 November 2008 (MST)

Tavern bug - Fake Username?[edit]

It just says fake username when I try to access the Tavern. Hach-Que 04:35, 22 November 2008 (MST)

The problem lies in the dash in your username and a recent change to the Tavern, I expect. I have the same problem. --TK-Squared 05:43, 22 November 2008 (MST)
I am sorry about those problems. Please let me know if it works now. — Blue Dragon (talk) 21:13, 22 November 2008 (MST)
It would help if the tavern worked :P --Sabre070 21:18, 22 November 2008 (MST)
Thank you for the report. There was some major downtime today, and hopefully the Tavern should be running again (albeit much slower). — Blue Dragon (talk) 21:28, 22 November 2008 (MST)
Its working now. --Sabre070 21:33, 22 November 2008 (MST)

D&D Wiki Hosting[edit]

So, the wiki is hosted in your own home? Does this cost money? If so how much? --Sabre070 21:38, 22 November 2008 (MST)

Blue Dragon and I are twins, and this is none of your business. --Green Dragon 14:18, 24 November 2008 (MST)
I was going to offer hosting from Servage. Its only $8.35AU per month and has basically unlimited bandwidth. --Sabre070 14:20, 24 November 2008 (MST)
Oh, that's the case. I don't know, although I imagine he would be more then happy to host your website. Not sure how much he would charge though. --Green Dragon 14:36, 24 November 2008 (MST)
I was more thinking of changing the wiki to this hosting (if it was cheaper). --Sabre070 22:15, 24 November 2008 (MST)
Absolutely no, that will not happen. Kgprog hosting by far and large exceeds any commercial hosting and it is tailored for wiki's (please see discussion below). --Green Dragon 07:27, 25 November 2008 (MST)

D&D Wiki Forum[edit]

We have a forum template for the "dnd wiki 'official' forum". It is located here: Hach-Que's user page. I was wondering if it would be possible to put it in a frame? On a special page and then have the link below the tavern? --Sabre070 21:38, 22 November 2008 (MST)

Woah, when did we decide D&D Wiki needs a forum? And please do not try to get the forum implemented on the back-end of D&D WIki without even discussing it. It will clutter up the code, and make it messy. --Green Dragon 14:16, 24 November 2008 (MST)
I was just wondering if it was possible, also the reason it needs a forum is due to the large number of users that go elsewhere to play. Plus, we've got inbuilt character sheets ;P --Sabre070 14:22, 24 November 2008 (MST)
Also, it was that we were making the forum system anyway and I didn't know if it was possible to have it hosted on the same site (would have more users and would allow more dandwiki users to use it). Else, we are going to host it on our own web server that will have it open to other role playing games. Another reason why we wanted it with the wiki was that we were going to implement a feature that links pages and descriptions automatically. Sorry for seeming to implement without discussion I just wanted to make sure if it was possible. --Sabre070 22:21, 24 November 2008 (MST)
The forum code is not even close to being finished right now, and probably won't have any development done on it until after end of January when I've finished working solidly on Roket3D --Hach-Que 07:08, 30 November 2008 (MST)
If you guys have a working model anytime soon I would imagine Blue Dragon would be more then willing to set up a test website for beta testing. --Green Dragon 13:23, 28 May 2009 (MDT)

Contact (off wiki)[edit]

Is there a way e can contact you if the wiki goes down? Like, a gmail accout ect.? --Sabre070 14:00, 24 November 2008 (MST)

Yes, of course. I'll send you an email about it. Also, the hosting that I am using is quite a bit more advanced than what would be available with a hosting plan through a company... e.g. think about the Tavern and the MoI system. Also, I have a nearly dedicated dual dual-core 3.0 GHz Intel Xeon box running this wiki, which is nothing close to the power that <$50/month hosting would get me. This site gets around 400,000 page hits per day. Thanks for the offer though! — Blue Dragon (talk) 22:43, 24 November 2008 (MST)
Also, with regards to the above statement about having hosting on this machine, I would definitely be willing to take it into consideration. Price is not an issue, and even with this weekend of D&D Wiki being basically dead, this machine (tundra) has about 98.5% uptime. However, this discussion should definitely be talked about on the main page or something! — Blue Dragon (talk) 22:46, 24 November 2008 (MST)
Another issue with the offer to host offsite is that Wikis require much more server side optimization to run adequately, and putting this website on a box that I don't have control over would not allow me to do any of that. Not to mention that I don't trust other people more than I trust myself ... ;). — Blue Dragon (talk) 22:54, 24 November 2008 (MST)

Template Question[edit]

I was trying to code a template navbox (you can see an example of the end-goal layout style of said template at and am having extreme difficulties (see: Template:Valgora). Is it just not possible with this different wiki or am I doing something grossly wrong? If not possible we can delete the template page I was trying.   Hooper   talk    contribs    email   10:38, 29 November 2008 (MST)

I noticed the other day in the Recent changes that you had played around a bit with templates. Any news, or will this just not be possible? I built the example navigation onm wikipedia that I used so I'm just now baffled that I can't figure it out. I'd just feel alot smarter and better if I'm told its currently not possible and it wasn't just me being a noob. But knowing me, it probably was. Thanks again.   Hooper   talk    contribs    email   14:50, 2 December 2008 (MST)
Hey Hooper. Don't worry, as it stands right now it is not possible. I will put it on my list of things to get working eventually, but for now you might want to implement another solution. Let me know if this is the only solution that will work, and then I will work on it when I get a chance. — Blue Dragon (talk) 23:12, 4 December 2008 (MST)
Oh no, thats fine. Was more of a "curious and what if" kind of thing. It'd be nice once its possible, but definately no rush. Thanks.   Hooper   talk    contribs    email   07:47, 5 December 2008 (MST)

Access Denied: No connections allowed[edit]

I think the tavern have a problem, maybe it just for me. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Lord Dhazriel (talkcontribs) . Please sign your posts.

I'm seeing it too.   Hooper   talk    contribs    email   11:52, 30 November 2008 (MST)
Nope, not just you. --Daniel Draco 11:55, 30 November 2008 (MST)
Im also having the same problem i though i was banned or somthing. --User:Vilios 11:00 am (GMT-04:00) 2 December 2008
I'm sorry for this problem. Can you please let me know if it is still occurring? Sorry, and thanks. — Blue Dragon (talk) 09:56, 2 December 2008 (MST)
It is not. It has been fixed. --TK-Squared 10:01, 2 December 2008 (MST)


D&D is a very awesome game, but im afraid your page isn't quite complete without AD&D, any plans for an update to include it? some of us still play it out there! —The preceding unsigned comment was added by (talkcontribs) . Please sign your posts.

Unfortunately, there is no free content for editions older than 3e. It would be great to have earlier content, but we cannot legally host it. --Daniel Draco 13:54, 1 December 2008 (MST)
We could however host home brew content. This may be discussed. (It is all we are doing with 4e, why not earlier versions?). --Sabre070 00:29, 5 December 2008 (MST)

Tavern Moderators[edit]

I hate to bug you, but the tavern really does need to have mods. I know that the tavern isn't currently coded in such a way as to allow that...and progress in fixing that? --Daniel Draco 14:45, 5 December 2008 (MST)

Tavern History Not Logging[edit]

The Tavern History doesn't appear to be recording conversation from the Tavern any longer. --Ganteka 12:45, 17 December 2008 (MST)

Nickname Already in Use?[edit]

the tavern is telling me that my nickname is already in use. I was chatting and then , boom. It stopped letting me on. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Big rob (talkcontribs) . Please sign your posts.

Happens all the time. What probably happened is that someone entered the chat, which takes the focus off the text box and onto the page. When you press backspace, it takes you back one page. The tavern didn't know you left, so when you tried to re-enter, it still thought you were there. When it tells you your name is already in use, enter /nick newnick, where newnick is a temporary username. What I usually do to prevent the backspace thing from happening in the first place is this: when I open the tavern, I do so in a new tab or window. That way, there are no previous pages for it to go back to, and the backspace bug can't happen. --Daniel Draco 16:56, 31 December 2008 (MST)

Fatal Error?[edit]

About an hour ago, I started to try and reorganize 3.5e Epic Spells, Seeds, and Powers so that it would look better, I'd managed to get most of the details organized and had made a couple of templates to sort out names (will be moving the page later btw everyone), but then I tried to preview the page, and this message popped up:

Fatal error: Allowed memory size of 20971520 bytes exhausted (tried to allocate 121693 bytes) in /home/dandwiki-com/public_html/w/extensions/DynamicPageList/DynamicPageList2.php on line 3539

If could you explain what is wrong or what I did wrong, it would be much appriciated. Thank you. → Rith 20:30, 1 January 2009 (MST)

Hello Rith, It looks like DPL doesn't have enough memory available to it to carry out the operation. I bumped up the memory quite a bit... could you let me know if it works now? I hope you had the page backed up! :)Blue Dragon (talk) 11:20, 4 January 2009 (MST)
Nope, still seeming to be having something of a problem :( (would the fact that I'm working with SMW format make any kind of a difference here?) → Rith 02:07, 5 January 2009 (MST)
Make sure all the parameters are correct. I remember someone else had this same error because they were calling up a list of all the pages on D&D Wiki accidently. --Green Dragon 02:43, 5 January 2009 (MST)
O_O wow, yeah, I'll go back go back through and double check that in that case. →Rith 22:30, 7 January 2009 (MST)
That doesn't appear to be the problem, I went through and couldn't find any typos. →Rith 22:38, 7 January 2009 (MST)
I added three dpl's on that page and they seem to work (although they are only temporary until you add the SMW properties). --Green Dragon 03:24, 8 January 2009 (MST)
Well I honestly don't know what the problem is, but I've typed up what I've accumulated so far on my newest page (Rithaniels Personal Storage Box ta-da!) and if anyone could read through it and tell me what exactly I'm doing wrong, it would be greatly appreciated. → Rith 10:17, 8 January 2009 (MST)
This could be a problem with just having "notcategories". I don't know if this is standard or used on other pages. — Blue Dragon (talk) 17:31, 10 January 2009 (MST)
Well, 3.5e Sorcerer/Wizard Spells uses "notcategories", and I was really using that as the base model, but I'll try fooling around with that for a little bit, see if it helps. → Rith 18:00, 10 January 2009 (MST)

Another.. Strange Error in the Tavern[edit]

A person today couldn't see the users typing.. They had to use the history to see our text.. I don't think it is a problem with the tavern but it could be (tho this is the only case so far). --Sabre070 02:36, 5 January 2009 (MST)

This could just be a problem with their browser not responding well to CGI::IRC. Do you know of any other cases? — Blue Dragon (talk) 17:28, 10 January 2009 (MST)


I was thinking about changing around my user page to look a little more colorful, and I had the idea of adding my own background to the page, like with a paticular image, and I was wondering, would that be possible, and if so, how would I go about doing it? → Rith (talk) 21:34, 31 January 2009 (MST)


When I log on to the tavern, I can't see anything in the tavern; there is just a white rectangle, "loading..." in the corner and a text box with a send button at the bottom. Could you sort the problem, please? Thanks! --Sam Kay 10:38, 20 February 2009 (MST)

You know, thats the exact same proplem I get whenever my computer refuses to load the tavern, it's as though the internet hits a hiccup on that page and can't get around it. → Rith (talk) 15:24, 20 February 2009 (MST)

So many stars...[edit]

The tavern got pretty funny... full of * everywhere (where it was suppose to be bold).--Lord Dhazriel 22:40, 22 February 2009 (MST)

The Tavern will be down for a bit while the server is upgraded. Please let me know if this issue is occurring after things have settled. — Blue Dragon (talk) 23:51, 22 February 2009 (MST)
Unfortunately the stars are still here. --Lord Dhazriel 21:46, 23 February 2009 (MST)
It should be working now. Thanks for letting me know about this problem! — Blue Dragon (talk) 10:26, 25 February 2009 (MST)

MoI Error[edit]

I was unable to send Eiji an MoI. The message that popped up told me to let you know. --Daniel Draco 06:07, 23 February 2009 (MST)

Thank you for alerting me to this problem. It should now be fixed. — Blue Dragon (talk) 08:19, 23 February 2009 (MST)

Tavern Problem[edit]

Our friend User:Summerscythe, have problem with the tavern. He can't see the text. Anywya to help him?--Lord Dhazriel 18:12, 26 February 2009 (MST)

hey im not sure if this is where i report a bug about the site but i cant post anything in the equipment section of the site.

Navigational Template[edit]

Hello Blue. I had talked with you very shortly before about a possible navigational template for the bottom of pages that would be able to be minimized (ala [1]). You said this would be something we could possibly eventually work towards. I'd love to see a feature such as this and a right-side template (ala country pages on wikipedia). Just curious what I could do to help spur this or what progress had been made on such a feature. Thanks.   Hooper   talk    contribs    email   21:29, 4 March 2009 (MST)

Been here for a while. Template:OGL Bottom. --Green Dragon 11:53, 12 March 2009 (MDT)

The Tavern's Web Interface Sucks[edit]

We need to get access to the tavern with a REAL IRC client already. That, or get rid of that stupid thing that pulls focus away from the text input box whenever somebody logs in or out. That is the most annoying bug ever. Surgo 22:56, 11 March 2009 (MDT)

Divine Salient Abilities[edit]

It is not possible to create new Divine Salient Abilities. The link on the page leads to the Deity creation page instead. Is this a bug, or is it on purpose? -- Tarrasque 15:40 17 March 2008

Load times on DPL/semantic wiki pages are very, very bad[edit]

Discussion moved from User talk:Green Dragon#Load times on DPL/semantic wiki pages are very, very bad

The load times on pages like DnD Base Classes are absolutely horrendous. While this would normally not be horrible, the server seems to be single threaded so one person loading that page causes every other request to wait until that page is loaded -- and that's really bad.

I understand that the sort of DPL/Semantic Wiki requests are time-intensive thanks to the database search. There is a way around that, though. Why not have all of these pages like . If you could find out the problem and fix it, I would appreciate it greatly! Ganteka instructed me to post the problem on your talk page. Wyrm 10:47, 12 April 2009 (MDT)

This problem should now be fixed. It was trying to transclude the entire page because the image tag at the top was never closed. — Blue Dragon (talk) 11:17, 12 April 2009 (MDT)
Aha, so it was my own stupidity, not the server's fault! Thank you very much, kind sir. Wyrm 11:19, 12 April 2009 (MDT)
Not a problem. I'm glad it works. :)Blue Dragon (talk) 11:19, 12 April 2009 (MDT)

Tavern Ops[edit]

We've recently had spammers in the tavern. We really need admins to be able to kick/ban people from there. Surgo 19:27, 22 April 2009 (MDT)

Hello Surgo. This feature has been implemented, sorry it took so long! I modified the Inn_Keeper so he will give chanop status to D&D Wiki admins. Please note: only kick users, do not ban them! You will end up banning all users. — Blue Dragon (talk) 23:26, 22 April 2009 (MDT)
Awesome, thanks! Surgo 07:36, 23 April 2009 (MDT)
The Innkeeper isn't opping me for some reason. --Daniel Draco 18:13, 24 April 2009 (MDT)
This should have been fixed for awhile now. — Blue Dragon (talk) 23:01, 8 May 2009 (MDT)
Are we going to be able to ban people eventually? --Daniel Draco 13:15, 20 June 2009 (MDT)

Tavern Op Security Hole[edit]

Discovered by an IP (all credit to him), all you have to do is go to the web client's login window, set whatever nick you want (an administrator nick), and The_Innkeeper will op you. IMHO the best way to fix it is to use a proper IRC network that can be connected with clients as well as web clients and actually has a chanserv and nickserv. Surgo 23:23, 24 April 2009 (MDT)

This has been fixed. The reason that the Tavern is not a proper IRC network is to associate usernames with the corresponding usernames on D&D Wiki. My modifications to CGI:IRC have been removed since the last update I applied---potentially several months ago. — Blue Dragon (talk) 22:57, 8 May 2009 (MDT)
I think everyone on the tavern would prefer it to be a proper IRC network, even if some of us had to change our names while on it. Or, at the very least, open up the IRC network that it is on to connections outside the web application. Surgo 22:59, 8 May 2009 (MDT)


We are really, really, really sick of the horrible web-application chat that is The Tavern. Can we please make it go to a proper IRC server that we can connect to with proper IRC clients already? Preferably one with Nickserv/Chanserv to fix other lingering problems? We've already created a channel, #thetavern; maybe the web client can just point to there? Surgo 18:36, 4 May 2009 (MDT)

The Tavern is currently hosted on D&D Wiki's servers. There is no reason to spread the site out to other people right now. D&D Wiki is primarily designed to be a wiki, and secondarily designed to support chatting. There are many other places on the Internet where users can chat about D&D related materials. Also, please do not advocate for users to leave D&D Wiki for what you would consider to be D&D Wiki areas. — Blue Dragon (talk) 23:00, 8 May 2009 (MDT)
From a standpoint those of us that use irc do not care about spreading irc, we simply do not want to deal with a chat client that is buggy, causes IE/Firefox to use TONS of memory and ends up lagging up our systems when trying to browse unless you go clear the cache every 2 minutes. We simply would like a method for opening up the chat so that it allows a more streamlined method. You don't have to remove the current client at all to encourage new users, but as it stands it is mostly the same people who use irc anyhow. I mean if it really comes down to it I guess I could suggest we all move off the websites irc and onto an unaffiliated network so we don't have to handle the chat client and inability to have other ircs open through it... -- Sleaker 02:09, 9 May 2009 (MDT)
Personally (not trying to be rude) I would be fine with moving The Tavern into the standard IRC structure and off D&D Wiki. However then it would be unaffiliated with D&D Wiki and as such no link would be supplied. Also, if that was the case (unaffiliation with D&D Wiki) then usernames, userstatus in The Tavern, etc would be become irrelevant. I am not positive - we really should decide. --Green Dragon 12:52, 28 May 2009 (MDT)
What would be wrong with providing a link on the wiki if this happened? People come, they want to talk. Give them what they want, and all that. Surgo 22:25, 4 June 2009 (MDT)

Wiki Extension/Update[edit]

Well I'm going to ask again, can we get Control Structure Functions on the wiki? I posted above but it seems to have gotten lost. I explained why I would like them, as it seems the wiki is not about to update to a newer version anytime soon. These pages that end up using it can easily be tagged for future if the wiki does get an update, but as it stands I would like to be able to continue coding up some nice templated pages.. Thanks! -- Sleaker 01:59, 9 May 2009 (MDT)

Hello Sleaker. This should now have been added, let me know if it works. — Blue Dragon (talk) 09:23, 9 May 2009 (MDT)
Great! Looks like it is working. and so is my list!. Text Example it took me a bit to figure out but when I noticed that you installed them in 'alongside' mode rather than replacement it worked. :) -- Sleaker 09:46, 9 May 2009 (MDT)


I'm haiving trouble getting in the tavern!--Zetsumeimaru

Mediawiki Upgrade[edit]

Are we still planning on doing this? Everyone's been itching to move the last of the DnD stuff to 3.5e (which my bot will do automatically when the wiki gets upgraded). Surgo 18:50, 15 May 2009 (MDT)

Fake USERNAME?![edit]

Now this thing is really starting to piss me off. I keeps saying I have a fake username! I enplore some one to fix this. --Zetsumeimaru

Hello Zetsumeimaru. Can you let me know if this works across different browsers? Thanks, — Blue Dragon (talk) 11:59, 16 May 2009 (MDT)


It won't let me in! It keeps saying Error in name, and when i click reconnect and change it to the right name it says fake username... Help! —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Aeowindir, Arcane Master (talkcontribs) 18:14, 27 May 2009 (MST). Please sign your posts.

It's likely because your name has a comma. While the websites allows it, IRC won't. Try making a new account, or logging out and then joining the tavern (you can join even when logged out). Dragon Child 18:17, 27 May 2009 (MDT)

Tavern Issue[edit]

The Innkeeper has disappeared from the Tavern, following the recent crash that lasted a few minutes. --Daniel Draco 17:33, 4 June 2009 (MDT)

Thank you for letting me know about this issue. It should now be fixed. — Blue Dragon (talk) 17:56, 4 June 2009 (MDT)

Even More Tavern Issues!!![edit]

Hey Blue, I used to be a regular bar fly in the tavern until i lost my computer, I got a new laptop, and the tavern would only show white, everyone could read what i typed, but i couldnt see anything. Very rarely, perhaps once a week, it would work. Other times, there would be like a three minute lag on everything i wrote. I didnt want to bother you about this because i figured it was only my laptop. But lately, the tavern has been having similar problems on my friends computers and my moms computer, where it always used to work. This makes me wonder if it has something to do with IP Addresses, I'm no computer programmer, but ids there someway the tavern would be fudgey on all people of a particular area? I live in Arizona. I have tried Internet explorer, firefox, safari and chrome, Nothing has worked, so i come to you for suggestions. Thank you, Summerscythe 12:04, 8 June 2009 (MDT)

For some reason i can not axces the tavern. Please explain to me why. When i try to get on tavern, the little bar where you type is missing and i cant see who is online. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Jamesja12 (talkcontribs) . Please sign your posts.
Yeah, uh, we lack an Innkeeper. So like, um, that thing that you do needs to be done... whatever it is. There seems to have been some kind of server problem thing (difficulty reentering, that kinda jazz). Yeah... --Ganteka 22:54, 28 July 2009 (MDT)

High, Maeglin-Amandil here. One of my pages received a message saying it had been put forth for deletion but I don't know why. Can you please help me?

On Developing Source-books for this Website.[edit]

I suppose you would be the one to talk to on the headlined subject. I feel very eager to help, but I had trouble finding the proper channels. I have left a list of questions in the discussion page of the to do do list:

Eager to help,

-- 13:04, 13 August 2009 (MDT)

P.S., I,, have gotten an account, and shall be now known under the user-name TheCritic.

-- 13:26, 13 August 2009 (MDT)

The Tavern(chat)[edit]

I cannot go into The Tavern; my Sreen Name is HaRkLe HaRpEr

Is the Tavern down?[edit]

I have been trying to get on the last few days... this is the message I am getting today

*** Welcome to CGI:IRC 0.5.9 (2006/06/06)

      • Looking up stonecutter
      • Connecting to stonecutter [] port 6667
      • An error occurred: Connecting to IRC: No route to host connecting to
My question is this: Do we really need the Tavern? It seems to distract people from actually using the wiki itself, and most of the people who truly stayed in it are at the other wiki. I don't know how the backside is, but would losing it help with storage/loading/etc. etc.? Do we have more benefits with it or without it? Just thoughts.   Hooper   talk    contribs    email   21:14, 26 August 2009 (MDT)


was wondering if the page is still active, and if so, does the chat function work as well. thanks

Facken den shiest![edit]

The tavern isn't working!

I cant get into the tavern on either of my computers this is the error i get[edit]

      • An error occurred: Connecting to IRC: No route to host connecting to


It Doesn't Work[edit]

The Tavern Simply Refuses to work and says " there is no possible route to IP... You know the rest.... can you help me? I would enjoy a response as soon as possible. --Sonar136 18:25, 8 Septemer 2009

I believe BD may not be as available, but I'm sure GD is aware of the problem. Especially considering most of this page is just Tavern Issues.   Hooper   talk    contribs    email   19:53, 8 September 2009 (MDT)

trouble logging into chat[edit]

I'm a new user. When I try to log into chat I get the following message:

      • Welcome to CGI:IRC 0.5.9 (2006/06/06)
      • Looking up stonecutter
      • Connecting to stonecutter [] port 6667
      • An error occurred: Connecting to IRC: No route to host connecting to

Any suggestions? —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Gildavinor (talkcontribs) . Please sign your posts.

Hello Gildavinor. The issue is known by the admins, and it is a server issue. Plans are in the works to either correct the issue or remove it altogether, but it may be some time before either is implemented. In the meantime, you can "chat" with any active user via our individual talk pages - or via the talk pages of any article you have comments/questions on.   Hooper   talk    contribs    email   07:26, 24 September 2009 (MDT)

Hey for some reason I cant get into the tavern. All it says is this.

An error occurred: Connecting to IRC: No route to host connecting to

What does this mean and how do I fix it?

Google Frame Preventing Account to be Created[edit]

Simply enough, clicking on the log in/create account link to the top right leads to a page where a large white box blocks the link to create an account.

Is this the page you are talking about (just to confirm). I tried to do a direct link here to the "Create an Account" page for you so you could bypass that page, but for the life of me can't get the link to work correctly.   Hooper   talk    contribs    email   08:51, 17 October 2009 (MDT)
      • An error occurred: Connecting to IRC: No route to host connecting to

I can never get on to chat please let me know how I can fix this

Error when connecting through web interface[edit]

I've received this error on multiple computers so I doubt its on the client side. I'm connecting from Vancouver BC, Canada.

Error message:

      • Welcome to CGI:IRC 0.5.9 (2006/06/06)
      • Looking up stonecutter
      • Connecting to stonecutter [] port 6667
      • An error occurred: Connecting to IRC: No route to host connecting to

chat dont work[edit]

chat dosnt work

New and Old[edit]

I recently stumbled onto WikiRPS and was wondering what is going on with that site. It has a good foundation for a very broad scope of RPG, I registered to work on it, but can't find anyone active there. . . (11/14/09) ~ MADKCAT

Can not connect[edit]

An error occurred: Connecting to IRC: No route to host connecting to

This keeps on popping up every time I try to connect.....

That's been happening since the middle of summer. I do wonder what's going on with it. --Oddplume 17:42, 18 November 2009 (MST)

Tavern Not Connecting?[edit]

I keep getting this error: "*** An error occurred: Connecting to IRC: No route to host connecting to" Then nothing happens... :(

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