Discussion:Minions or swarms for large battles?

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Minions or swarms for large battles?[edit]

Aeneas 21:53, 5 March 2009 (MST)[edit]

I'm currently running a 4th edition campaign where the players are fighting a group of necromancers. A few adventures down the line, I want to have a few big climactic battles with "armies" of undead, to finish off that part of the campaign. I didn't find the type of creatures I was looking for in our sourcebooks, so I'm going to write up the stats for the undead myself. My question is, would the battles be more fun if I used large numbers of minion creatures (along with a few elites for the actual necromancers) or if I used swarm creatures, where each swarm represents a military-like battle group (around platoon or company size) of undead? They're supposed to be the animated remains of a slaughtered army, so they'll be well organized (for undead).

DMandPC 18:46, 6 August 2009 (MDT)[edit]

I say use minions because the undead as a swarm would be the medium, and the PC's would be small(or smaller for other characters.)

Ghostwheel 19:55, 6 August 2009 (MDT)[edit]

An even better idea would probably be adapting the "mob" rules in the DMG2. It's usually a good format to use for most formations and such while still keeping to a (fairly) standard battle map.

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