Talk:Knight, Tome (3.5e Class)

Contents 1 Balance 2 Rating 3 Rating 4 Knightly Orders 5 PrC

[edit] Balance

overpowered as all hell. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 24.148.49.182 (talk • contribs) 12:05, 3 April 2009 (MDT). Please sign your posts!

Wow, what can I ever do against such a well-thought-out, explained, and logical comment? Surgo 12:11, 3 April 2009 (MDT)

Exactly. It's tome material. Go educate yourself. -- Jota 14:34, 3 April 2009 (MDT)

Well, look at the Knight's abilities. He gets one heavy-hitting ability which is designed to draw fire. And then he gets a ton of defensive extras--Energy Resistance, Spell Resistance, and so on--designed to help him survive the attention. Assuming he survives to level 10, he then get some extras and a PrC (assuming you write one). Exactly how does this make him overpowered? --Genowhirl 18:18, 3 April 2009 (MDT)

[edit] Rating

Discussion moved to Talk:DnD Class Preload#Wizards new Format is Irrelevant (other then ratings).

Formatting - 2/5 I give this class a 2 out of 5 because this does not follow the preload and links to the SRD are missing, --Green Dragon 11:59, 16 April 2009 (MDT)

Flavor - 3/5 I give this class a 3 out of 5 because the only flavor text which is present does not follow the preloads form and no example NPC is present. --Green Dragon 11:59, 16 April 2009 (MDT)

[edit] Rating

Power - 4/5 I give this class a 4 out of 5 because, while this classes special abilities make sense in the way they are intended to be used, and the idea behind the designate opponent ability is justifiable, the end result, is not not great. This is a class that is supposed to take a beating, yet, it can put out an enormous ammount of damage. Now then, yes, why would an opponent pay attention to him otherwise? That is a good arguement, but the end result is a character that can deal massive portions of damage, and take the resultant beating. Now, I gave this class a rating as high as 4 out of 5 because it is going to be difficult for a knight to survive in a campaign where the DM is rough. Though, I didn't give it 5 out of 5 since, in any other situation, the knight would excell and be better than pretty much everyone else. → Rith ^(talk) 23:21, 19 April 2009 (MDT)

Wording - 5/5 I give this class a 5 out of 5 because the wording on this page is consise and comprehensive. → Rith ^(talk) 23:21, 19 April 2009 (MDT)

Formatting - 2/5 I give this class a 2 out of 5 because massive portions of the preload are missing, and interwiki linking is lacking. → Rith ^(talk) 23:21, 19 April 2009 (MDT)

Flavor - 5/5 I give this class a 5 out of 5 because with the powers of Gaint Frog, they can Gaint Frog. → Rith ^(talk) 23:21, 19 April 2009 (MDT)

[edit] Knightly Orders

Do we have to make the Knightly order prestige classes ourselves? Or are they somewhere in the wiki.--Milo High-Hill 23:57, 31 January 2011 (MST)

I searched for them and nothing showed up. --Green Dragon 17:40, 1 February 2011 (MST)

[edit] PrC

I think this would be more appropriate in the PrC class area. Thoughts? Tivanir 15:24, 1 April 2012 (MDT)

PrC? Prestige Class? If so, I disagree. This was intended to be a base class, and even was based on a base class from Complete Adventurer and Player's Handbook II. It doesn't follow standards, granted, but I think moving it would make it even more odd. Jwguy 17:57, 1 April 2012 (MDT)

See the "Some Base Classes are short" section. Actually, some of this going through classes might be a bit easier for you if you knew the whole idea of the Tome was finding areas where the D&D rules aren't that great and trying to patch. So the Dungeonomicon gives a couple ideas for turning dungeons into defensible position built by the powerful, rather than potential self-imposed traps ignored by people as powerful as you are, and Races of War went, "Well, normal D&D melee classes can't do jack past level 10. Let's invite them to play with the big boys (e.g., casters and monsters) so everyone's sort of playing the same game." I personally like the series, but I can understand why people wouldn't. Whether you agree with it or not, everything in them is deliberate. Including make a base class 10 levels long. --108.162.212.139 09:40, 2 April 2012 (MDT)