Talk:Mimic Spell (3.5e Feat)
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Drago Nero's thoughts on Mimic Spell
With this feat a warlock could get Fireball usable at will which is way overpowered. I think that there should be a limit on uses per day for this spell.
I added a drawback. I personaly think that the drawback is too harsh to justify taking this feat, but for the sake of balance, many things have to be done that no one neccesarily likes. If, however, someone comes up with a better drawback that does not make this feat a waste to take, I am happily open to suggustions.
EDIT: And by the way, any caster can have a spell-like ability usable at will now, due to the Innate Spell feat in the Complete Arcane. I feel that Mimic Spell brings Warlocks a little more up to par with Sorcerors and Wizards, as a human wizard can have a spell-like ability at 5th lvl, with the "drawback" of 4 feats. (Quicken Spell, Silent Spell and Still Spell, all very useful metamagic feats, are prerequisites for taking Innate Spell)
- You're forgetting or ignoring the fact that Innate Spell requires a slot eight levels higher than the spell in question. So this feat is completely unavailable to wizards/clerics/druids under 15th level, and sorcerers under 16th. And when all is said and done, in pre-epic levels the best you're going to get are 1st-level spells usable at will. So no hurling fireballs at will. --Sledged 20:17, 12 July 2006 (MDT)
This feat needs a categorization identifier(s) such as [General], [Metamagic], [Monstrous], [Epic], etc... --Sledged 17:24, 15 July 2006 (MDT)
Ok, I'll add a steep level prerequisite then. Fair? Also, how would I add the identifier? I havent been here for a while and am a little rusty. Lord_Canius
- The identifier ("feat type" is probably a better phrase) is added the same way with any other feat: feat name [feat type]. So instead of the title being Mimic Spell, it would be Mimic Spell [...]. If you don't know it's type or don't think it should have a type, it defaults to "General". —Sledged 14:14, 26 August 2006 (MDT)
Anything else you'd like me to fix, any other problems or unbalanced mechanics you'd like to point out? Lord_Canius
- Not any problems, but clearifications.
- You have the prereq "Warlock 14th level." Did you intend for this feat to be only usable by characters with 14+ levels of warlock vs having levels in PrCs that increase a warlock's invocation-using progression? Id est, does a warlock 6/blood magus 9 qualify for the feat? It doesn't have 14 levels of warlock, but it does know and use invocations as a 14th-level warlock.
- Also, at levels at where a warlock may learn replace invocations with new ones (of the same grade or lower), may the warlock replace the mimicked spell with another sorcerer/wizard spell (of the same level or lower)? —Sledged 23:35, 27 August 2006 (MDT)
Other Invocation-Using Classes
So now that Dragon Magic is out, the warlock is not the only class that uses invocations. So a dragonfire adept can meet the prereqs of this feat. Should the feat type be changed from [Warlock] to [Invocation]? —Sledged 23:17, 6 November 2006 (MST)
- Yes. --Green Dragon 16:47, 7 November 2006 (MST)