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[edit] Welcome to D&D Wiki

Hello Sam Kay, and welcome to D&D Wiki! Thank you for your contributions. I hope you like D&D Wiki and decide to stay. I am the owner of the site, and if you have a question feel free to ask me, however when contacting anyone on D&D Wiki through talk pages please sign your name using four tildes (~~~~); this will automatically produce your name and the date. Also, if you want to help D&D Wiki but just don't know how drop me a note and I'll see what I can do. However, when dropping me a note please tell me how much time you would like to spend working, how well you know the Wiki Format, and how well you know D&D. I hope you enjoy editing here and being a D&D Wikian! If you need help ask me on my talk page, or just right here. Again, welcome! --Green Dragon 11:34, 5 June 2007 (MDT)

[edit] Monstrous Spider Existance

Can anyone tell me how monstrous spiders exist in D&D (were they made magically or by Lolth)? Sam Kay 07:28, 23 June 2007 (MDT)

Up to the DM really. To some DMs, they are natural to the world (think of Mirkwood in Lord of the Rings). To others maybe monsters are all a result of some planar gate being opened. Maybe Monstrous spiders are magically infused regular spiders. And yes, you could even say they were made by Lloth. --Aarnott 08:54, 23 June 2007 (MDT)
You know the spider's in mirkwood are not natural. They are demons corrupted by the evil valar morgoth! But spider's that size could not be natural. They would be unable to breath!Sam Kay 09:09, 23 June 2007 (MDT)
Here I thought they were just natural Mirkwood dwellers... Cool! True they would be unable to breathe unless magically/divinely/genetically modified. Maybe they grew to have lungs at that size (different evolutionary path on that particular world). Maybe they just magically work (like an enlarge type spell that is infused with their nature so that they are not subject to dispelling or antimagic). Perhaps they are divinely that way (I mean come on, try to explain time stop, resurrection, etc)! It is really up to the DM should they want to explain the origin. It can also be up to the designer should the designer want to explain the origin. --Aarnott 12:13, 25 June 2007 (MDT)
maybe its their diet from platdragon

[edit] Trademarks

Most of Middle-Earth is trademarked and/or copyrighted. Those who publish Middle-Earth RPG's pay for the right to use those names. Alas, we can not host this material here. I wish that we could. The one thing that I can guarantee is that someone with the rights to this IP will soon send us a messages saying, "Remove this." They are generally protective of their rights. Quite honestly, this is not a fight any of us is willing to make. --Dmilewski 14:33, 17 August 2007 (MDT)

The Fair use of copyright act allows use of copyright so long as you give credit to the copyright holder and don't use it to gain proft (I just reasearched it).
“ What is fair use?

In copyright law, there is a concept of fair use, also known as; free use, fair dealing, or fair practice.

Fair use sets out certain actions that may be carried out, but would not normally be regarded as an infringement of the work.

The idea behind this is that if copyright laws are too restrictive, it may stifle free speech, news reporting, or result in disproportionate penalties for inconsequential or accidental inclusion.

What does fair use allow? Under fair use rules, it may be possible to use quotations or excerpts, where the work has been made available to the public, (i.e. published). Provided that:

The use is deemed acceptable under the terms of fair dealing. That the quoted material is justified, and no more than is necessary is included. That the source of the quoted material is mentioned, along with the name of the author. Typical free uses of work include: Inclusion for the purpose of news reporting. Incidental inclusion. National laws typically allow limited private and educational use. What is incidental inclusion? This is where part of a work is unintentionally included. A typical examples of this would be a case where holiday movie inadvertently captured part of a copyright work, such as some background music, or a poster that just happened to on a wall in the background.

Points to keep in mind... The actual specifics of what is acceptable will be governed by national laws, and although broadly similar, actual provision will vary from country to country.

Cases dealing with fair dealing can be complex, as decisions are based on individual circumstances and judgements. This can be a very difficult area of copyright law.

To avoid problems, if you are in any doubt, you are advised to always get the permission of the owner, prior to use.

”

Also, I did ask green dragon and blue dragon a long time before adding this;

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The Lord of the rings

I am a huge fan of said book, and I have created a D&D campaign setting based on it. I would be interested in putting it on D&D wiki, but it is quite big so I thought I should check with you. It also has quite abit of SRD and modified SRD in it, which may need sorting out. And it is in a word document (I don't know how to turn it into D&Dwiki formatting without spending 1000+ years converting it bit by bit). It may need some work to make it entirely sound. I will not submit it without your permision, and I would also like abit of advice for converting it to wiki format please. Thanks! Sam Kay 12:57, 11 June 2007 (MDT)

The CS will work on here, please add it. Also, about the formatting, what word do you have? I think Word 07 has a text to wiki-code converter, which may be very helpful to you. However, if you do not, Open Office (free) may have an extension that does that... If neither work I believe Blue Dragon make a PDF to wiki-code programm which he may be able to modify... Tell me if it works, or what is happening. Thanks. --Green Dragon 19:36, 11 June 2007 (MDT)

I have word 03. Where can I get open office? Thanks for your help. Sam Kay 09:07, 12 June 2007 (MDT)

Open Office here. However, once again, I am not 100% sure if they have an extension... Your best bet really may be to ask Blue Dragon if he could modify his converting script. --Green Dragon 09:11, 12 June 2007 (MDT)

Well, I am unable to get open office (administrater ect.) so I will ask Blue Dragon. Thanks.Sam Kay 09:34, 12 June 2007 (MDT)

No problem. --Green Dragon 09:46, 12 June 2007 (MDT)

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—User talk:Green Dragon/Archive 6
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Lord of the Rings

Hey, Blue Dragon! I have created a D&D campaign setting based on said book, and when I asked green dragon, he said I should put it on D&D wiki. However, it is in a word (2003) document, and I don't know how to convert it into wiki formatting without taking forever. When I asked Green Dragon, he said you had a PDF wiki-code program that might help. Could you please help me convert it? Thanks. Sam Kay 09:44, 12 June 2007 (MDT)

Sure, this sounds like a great idea! Upload your .doc file, and I will look at parsing it and try to get it up soon. I did build a xml-to-wiki program, and it would probably just take a little bit of tweaking to get it to work with RTF. Upload to it to DnD Media Repository, and I will take a look at it. — Blue Dragon (talk) 10:36, 12 June 2007 (MDT) How do I do that? Sam Kay 10:48, 12 June 2007 (MDT) Go to this page, and sign in with your D&D Wiki username and password, and then fill out the form. Let me know if you have any other problems. — Blue Dragon (talk) 12:34, 12 June 2007 (MDT)

Thanks for that, I have now managed to upload it. it is Here. Sam Kay 14:19, 12 June 2007 (MDT)

Hm... this book in .doc format is a lot harder to convert than what I used for .xml. I will try

some things, but don't expect quick progress. — Blue Dragon (talk) 19:09, 13 June 2007 (MDT)

Let me know how you like the current formatting. — Blue Dragon (talk) 13:18, 14 June 2007 (MDT)

I really like the curent formatting. I think the page is ready to put on the campaign setting pages now. I have made some minour text adjustments (correcting my text mistakes, adding several things to the orks ect), so it is now ready. Sam Kay 05:28, 16 June 2007 (MDT)

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Also, look at the lord of the rings wiki. They are perfecvtly legal without lots of legality things (all they have to do is give credit to tolkien- which will happen of said page). The only reason why copyright material is not normally allowed on wikis is because no credit is gioven to the auther. --Sam Kay 06:46, 18 August 2007 (MDT)

If Green Dragon is OK with this, then I'll be OK with this. As a favor to yourself, please look up Trademarks. The rights for trademarks are very different than the rights for copyright, with a completely different set of pitfalls. My hesitation here is with trademark issues.
I look forward to your good work. (Really. I don't want to pick a fight. I'm just acting with due diligence. For example, we don't have permission to use WotC trademarks, and using such a trademark can get our license to use the OGL revoked. This is why you don't see anything like Vecna or Mordenkain on this site.)--Dmilewski 18:45, 18 August 2007 (MDT)
Green dragon asked me to do that as well, and I am ahead of you: I asked "one wiki to rule them all" (the Lord of thre Rings wiki)to see what they knew of copyright things (they have things like "hobbit" on their site). --Sam Kay 04:16, 19 August 2007 (MDT)
Great! Thanks for doing the footwork and looking into this this. For once, I like knowing that I'm behind the curve. Keep up the good work, and we all look forward to a great addition!--Dmilewski 07:17, 22 August 2007 (MDT)

[edit] Wiki style

Hi Sam Kay,

I noticed that on Hobbits (DnD Race), you put a link behind a headline, as in

=[http://lotr.wikia.com/wiki/Hobbit Hobbit]=

That's bad style. First of all, not everybody will know the LotR wiki, so it's better of you put it in something like:

For more information, see the [http://lotr.wikia.com/wiki/Hobbit Hobbit] on LotR Wiki.

So they know where you are leading them. Second, Headlines are for thematic separation of text. As such, they should not lead somewhere else, that's what links in the text are for. Apart from the fact that blue headlines don't look good. --Mkill 08:26, 19 August 2007 (MDT)

Okay, I will move the headline as soon as all D&D LotR races are complete (I have 3 remaining). --Sam Kay 08:36, 19 August 2007 (MDT)

[edit] Preview

Hey Sam Kay,

Did you notice the Preview button when you edit pages? You don't have to save your pages every minute, you can check your changes before you do. --Mkill 07:41, 22 August 2007 (MDT)

Yeah, I have been using it, I just often need to come off the PC for short periods of time, or save so I don't accidentally lose content. --Sam Kay 10:58, 22 August 2007 (MDT)

[edit] LotR Names

Hello. Since all your LotR information is under the J.R.R. Tolkien's The Lord of the Rings (DnD Campaign Setting) it should be named appropriately. Everything on D&D Wiki should have an identifier (e.x. "DnD Race") - your CS, sadly, is no exception. So, I would be very happy if you could spend some time renaming all your LotR material. For example LotR Equipment should really not be called that - it should be named "Equipment (LotR Supplement)". Thanks. --Green Dragon 21:45, 22 August 2007 (MDT)

Ah... Sorry about giving you confusing information. Only the articles without an identifier need to be moved - like LotR Races. The creatures should be kept at a "DnD Creature" identifier as that is where they will be found at. If you want me to do this please tell me and I will be more than happy to help, and sorry about making it so confusing. --Green Dragon 16:46, 23 August 2007 (MDT)
Also, for future reference, there are three parts to any CS. The landing page, which has the identifier of "DnD Campaign Setting", then the supplement areas (these would include pages like Estë (Valar)) these should have the identifier of "LotR Supplement" and finally the content pages. These include anything from CS specific races to CS specific items. These should all be labeled with the identifier that pertains to them the best. For example races should be labeled as "DnD Race" and function as a typical race on D&D Wiki whereas a creature should be labeled as "DnD Creature" and function as a typical creature on D&D Wiki. I hope this helps, and if you need any more help please feel free to ask. --Green Dragon 16:52, 23 August 2007 (MDT)


[edit] Anti-Vandal Barnstar

Anti-Vandal Barnstar            
I give you this Anti-Vandal Barnstar for reverting spam edits on User:Dandwiki Helper about 11 minutes after the spammer, IP 204.39.95.9 attacked. Thanks for the good and fast response. --Green Dragon 21:30, 3 September 2007 (MDT)

[edit] LotR NPCs

Sam it is I! Leon message shadowyfigure to reply I just havn't been able to log currently.

If you like I shall do the stack blocks for the NPCS as originally planned during the first edition drafting but you decided not to include them

[edit] check this out

Revolver —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Shadow7angel7 (talk • contribs) 15:28, 9 September 2007 (MDT). Please sign your posts!

[edit] Half-Life

Hey, if you have time it would be awesome if you could add Template:Copyright Disclaimer to all the half-life articles on D&D Wiki (A complete list can be found here). Thanks. --Green Dragon 16:30, 15 October 2007 (MDT)

sure, when I have time. --Sam Kay 09:27, 16 October 2007 (MDT)
Done. I also sent the author of the pages a note, asking him to add the template to new "Half-Life 2" pages he may make in the future. --Sam Kay 12:59, 16 October 2007 (MDT)
Thank you :). --Green Dragon 15:41, 16 October 2007 (MDT)
No problem! :) --Sam Kay 11:17, 17 October 2007 (MDT)

[edit] Bad Edits

My sincerest apologies for the bad edits. My bot ran amok. We will work to rectify this. Dmilewski 12:39, 20 October 2007 (MDT).

Its alright. --Sam Kay 04:37, 21 October 2007 (MDT)

[edit] Presenting....

Hey Sam so I have begun work on the cover (below) and I have a picture for the Good Races Of Middle Earth (Also Below) These use images from the Lord Of The Rings Online game just so you know and are the images that worked best instead of really badly cut out movie images. Hope you like them and especially like the firey back ground on the cover. Try to get the word document asap so I can begin work on prettying it.

[1] The Cover.

[2] Good Races of Middle Earth

I'm working on the others. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by ShadowyFigure (talk • contribs) 16:31, 6 November 2007 (MDT). Please sign your posts!

[edit] Spider Rider

Nice work on the Spider Rider classes, Sam. It inspired me to make my own modified Spider Rider base class. --Dunkleheit, 8:01 PM Pacific, 11/8/07

please ignore the base clas version, it is incomplete, just look at the Prestige class version. That is complete and 10/10. If you wan't to finnish off the base class version, go ahead, just keep in mind the existing rating. --Sam Kay 10:28, 9 November 2007 (MST)

[edit] Adminship

I feel you have been here long enough, and know enough about D&D Wiki, to become an admin. So, I am wondering if you would like me to nominate you for adminship. Let me know what you decide :). --Green Dragon 21:57, 2 December 2007 (MST)

I am willing to accept adminship, if you think I am suitable. Thanks! --Sam Kay 09:46, 3 December 2007 (MST)
Glad to hear you will accept it, and yes I do think you are suitable. I will nominate you in a couple of days (probably tomorrow actually) since I just want it so people can see the new current news items before they change to adminship ones. If you would like to prepare in advance you could always write up your answers to the questions while you are waiting. Sorry about the wait. --Green Dragon 19:43, 4 December 2007 (MST)
I have nominated you. --Green Dragon 15:22, 5 December 2007 (MST)
Welcome to Adminship. You are now, as Dmilewski once put it, part of "The Face" of D&D Wiki. Honestly, as you will notice, not much has been changed now that you are an admin. If anything, I would say more burden is placed on you. But first, for the the new features and their uses. You can now delete pages, protect pages, rollback edits, block users and IP's, edit every page, patrol edits, and do a couple more minor things.
What it is
  • What deleting pages is, is self explanatory.
  • What protecting pages is, is also pretty self explanatory.
  • Rolling back edits is a method for removing spam. It is more powerful than the conventional method of undoing edits. Instead of showing a diff of the edit in question once clicked, it instantly rollsback all the edits by the user or IP in question on a certain page. For example if I edited my user page and you clicked "rollback" on that edit it would rollback all the edits up to the point where someone else has edited it. Be careful using this, it can be very helpful but also very harmful.
  • What blocking users and IP's is, is also self explanatory.
  • Editing every page is another self explanatory one.
  • Patrolling edits is a method for keeping RC in check, it can be seen once a diff is clicked. All it does is, once "Mark as Patrolled Edits" is clicked, it marks the edits as patrolled so the edit will no longer show up on RC when "Hide Patrolled" is marked.
When or how it should be used
  • Deleting pages is normally done through Category:Candidates for Deletion. Anything with a good reason to be deleted on that page should be deleted. The other time pages should be deleted is when someone makes a certain page and after a few edits they either blank the page or replace it with something like "Please delete this". They don't want to work on it, and unless it is really well made and fleshed out, just delete it.
  • Protecting pages has quite a few different times when it should be used. Pages should be protected according to the author's wishes (with Template:Locked Page added to the top of the page in question), in case of conflict (with Template:Temp Locked Page added to the top of the page in question), in case of OGC published materials (with Template:OGL Top added to the top of the page in question and Template:OGL Bottom added to the bottom), or finally if the page is a vital part of D&D Wiki's organization. If it deals with D&D Wiki's organization it either needs to be be protected from IP edits or all non-sysop edits. As a rule of thumb pages up to two tiers deep from the Main Page are normally locked to anyone but sysops and all the others are just protected from IP edits. For Example Dungeons and Dragons is protected from all non-sysop edits whereas a deeper in page like LA 0 Races is only protected from IP edits. No template has to be added to pages if thay are part of D&D Wiki's organization (even though some do exist like Template:Admin Locked Page)
  • Blocking a user or IP should only be used after an IP or user vandalizes a certain page. To block someone just click "block" (found either on RC or the diff in question) and fill out the corresponding form. For a typical vandalism attack I normally block the user for two weeks. If I'm in a bad mood from vandalism or a certain discussion, then I sometimes block them for up to a month. No standards have been set for block lengths, so it is currently really up to you when you block the user or IP.
  • Editing every page on D&D Wiki mostly means you can now edit the SRD and the MSRD. Feel free to edit them if you find inaccuracies. Also, if you want to, for lack of a better word, major in the SRD (as Dmilewski has done) or the MSRD (as EldrithNumen has done) take a look at SRD Talk:System Reference Document#SRD ToDo List or MSRD Talk:Modern System Reference Document#Tasks to see what needs to be done within the SRD or MSRD. There is never enough help to get it all done, so I am sure your help would be appreciated.
  • Patrolling edits should, in a nutshell, be used when you have looked over an edit and fixed everything that needs to be fixed (this includes answering questions, sending MoI's, etc). If you decide to, for a lack of better words, major in RC (as I have :)) then marking edits as patrolled will become commonplace and extremely helpful. Below is how to "major" in recent changes, which would be a great help to D&D Wiki and I. First off load recent changes and press "Hide patrolled edits". Next click any diff and look at the change. Only if you are 100% sure that the edit is okay (taking formatting standards, page-linking (using the "what links here?" function), answering questions, sending MoI's, and line spacing between comments and/or the "Back to" footer into consideration) then mark the edit as patrolled. If the edit is not okay then all you have to do is fix the problem then mark the edit as patrolled. It's simple, but looking over every edit on D&D Wiki really keeps it looking and running well. In my opinion, it is the most vital part of D&D Wiki. Even marking only 20 edits as patrolled every day would be extremely helpful with this never-ending task.
I know this is really long-winded, so I'll keep the rest short. You have more burden on youself now that you are an admin because users will be looking at you for editing help, knowledge of the standards, etc etc. It's a bit more work, but I really hope you enjoy being an admin and I hope you decide to stay around on D&D Wiki for a while more to come. Welcome to Adminship, again, as Dmilewski once put it, you're now part of "The Face" of D&D Wiki. --Green Dragon 15:57, 12 December 2007 (MST)
Thanks. I hope I do a good job as admin. I have one question though. Should I put information about what I do as admin on D&D wiki on D&D Wiki:Administrators? --Sam Kay 09:19, 13 December 2007 (MST)
Currently D&D Wiki:Administrators just has you down as "Admin" because your role as an admin has not really become defined yet. As it becomes defined feel free to update what it says about you :). --Green Dragon 15:09, 13 December 2007 (MST)

[edit] Recent Equipment Items

Hello. I was just looking through your recent D20M equipment additions and hey all need to have Category:Halo Setting present. If you could add this to all the Halo Setting materials that do not have this category present that would be amazing. Thanks! --Green Dragon 16:23, 9 December 2007 (MST)

Ok. Will do. --Sam Kay 10:05, 10 December 2007 (MST)
Thank you in advance! --Green Dragon 16:36, 10 December 2007 (MST)
Done. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Sam Kay (talk • contribs) 08:49, 11 December 2007 (MST). Please sign your posts!

[edit] Elfish Stamina

Your point about the endurance of elves is well taken. Orcs, too. Dwarves, of course. And Ents, naturally, never tire, unless they are ripping apart ancient fortresses and diverting the course of rivers with their bare hands. Even then they shake it off. And you rarely see Elendil's progeny sweat, either.

Don't get me wrong, I love the master, but sometimes it seems like the only people in his books who ever get tired are the unfortunate Hobbits. -- S1Q3T3 17:30, 18 December 2007 (MST)

I know. Perhaps that is why the D&D versions of elves where mdified to be a -2 con. --Sam Kay 06:47, 19 December 2007 (MST)

[edit] Recent RC Patrols

First off, thank you so much for helping with RC. It really has been helping keep it in check. Anyway, I looked over your patrols today (I know, I know... don't I have better things to do with my time?!?) and I have a few comments.

  1. Feel free to patrol any SRD edit (not talk-page edit, but actual page edit) since only admins can edit them, and I feel that all the contributing admins are trustworthy.
  2. Before marking a new item as patrolled make sure it is formatted right (Examples BloodOath Dagger (DnD Equipment) and Shifter's Blade (DnD Equipment)
  3. Talk pages should only be patrolled once the discussion has been answered or finished (Example Talk:Divine Spear (DnD Monk Fighting Style))
  4. Make sure Template:Unsigned has been added to unsigned posts before marking the edit as patrolled (Example SRD Talk:Dryad).

Anyway, those were the only patrols I saw that were patrolled wrong, and thanks so much again for patrolling. All we have to do is patrol down until no more edits are left to patrol, and I feel that we can accomplish this quickly together. Thanks again. --Green Dragon 22:55, 20 December 2007 (MST)

I hope that comment did not push you away from helping with RC... Really, you are helping, and please continue to :). --Green Dragon 16:17, 24 December 2007 (MST)
I looked over your patrols once again and I must say I am impressed. Every single one you changed as I would have, good job and thanks so much. --Green Dragon 10:19, 31 December 2007 (MST)
Actually I do have one question. What was the reasoning behind your edits on Gloves of the Spider, or did you just edit an out of date revision and make that one the current one? --Green Dragon 10:32, 31 December 2007 (MST)
To help with making sure you do not edit out-of-date revisions I would recommend that you just make sure to click the "Article" tab when you see something wrong with an edit and want to fix it. It will become habit, I imagine :). Also, I hope to see you helping on RC again, and thanks so much so far! It really has helped and I hope that the problems with these out-of-date revisions have not pushed you away from helping with RC.... --Green Dragon 19:19, 5 January 2008 (MST)

[edit] Away

I will be away on boxing day as I am visiting releatives. --Sam Kay 07:15, 25 December 2007 (MST)

Have fun! --Green Dragon 19:46, 25 December 2007 (MST)
Thanks. I am back. --Sam Kay 04:21, 27 December 2007 (MST)
Hope it was fun. Also, by the way, why did you refer to xmas above as "Boxing Day"? --Green Dragon 21:33, 27 December 2007 (MST)
Boxing day is the day after christmas... Oh, right, I see. You don't have Boxing Day in the US. In england, we call the day after christmas Boxing Day. --Sam Kay 04:45, 28 December 2007 (MST)
As was said on Misspell, Gains a tidbit about England. --Green Dragon 10:27, 31 December 2007 (MST)

[edit] Why did you delete stuff from my prestige class?

I couldn't help noticing that you have deleted class feature descriptions from Prestige Class Brother of Blade. I guess it was accident. -- Thiregan 15:07, 31.12.2007 (UTC +2)

Was it an out-of-date revision thing again? To get the material back I would recommend looking through the history and adding back the things that were accidentally deleted. --Green Dragon 10:47, 31 December 2007 (MST)
I think I might have edited an out-of-date revision... I was looking through recent changes at the time. Sorry for that. --Sam Kay 10:57, 31 December 2007 (MST)

Hey Sam, I removed the AD&D rules... my bad...

TK

[edit] Something for the Spider and Drow Enthusiast

Thought you might be interested in this. I never liked the SRD version. —Sledged (talk) 17:02, 8 January 2008 (MST)

Yeah, that's better than the SRD, cos it can be applied to an existing character, or another race. It makes more sense to have a template for drider. I'll make sure I use it when I get round to doing a Drow themed campaign. --Sam Kay 08:50, 9 January 2008 (MST)

[edit] Feats

Feats still have yet to be dpl'ed (except the general ones), so I would appreciate it if you make sure all the feats you add are manually added to the appropriate page. Thanks! Target (DnD Feat). Also, Hidden Blade needs to be linked to from Weapon Descriptions. --Green Dragon 09:10, 8 February 2008 (MST)

On general feats removed the dplc and add a Template:x0. They really need descriptions. --Green Dragon 12:40, 13 February 2008 (MST)

[edit] Mail

Check your email. You'll find what you requested and a little extra. ShadowyFigure 10:02, 8 February 2008 (MST)

[edit] Monstrous Spider Eggs

sorry about editing your article i edited it because it seamed that it did not seem acurate because I belive that wizards created monsterous spiders were spaced the way they were so people could tell that the poison was diffrent between sizes i did not mean any disrespect. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Platdragon (talk • contribs) 15:41, 27 February 2008 (MST). Please sign your posts!

[edit] D&D Expieriance

I WISH we could go :( However I thought you'd find this you tube videos intresting. Each of them about coming up stuff in 4e also I was thinking about playing 4e and a neat adventure is coming out befor 4e that we could play as it comes with a quick play guide and already made characters. Thats also in a link Below.

4e Product Line up http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kt3W_u9xmPA

4e Roleplaying Ascessories http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_VSoCWON8hA&feature=related

4e D&D Insider Stuff http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yT8dMw7RIH4

4e Design Philosphy http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sw0DMw96UH0

Keep On The ShadowFell

http://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/0786948507/ref=s9_asin_title_1_sims_c6?pf_rd_m=A3P5ROKL5A1OLE&pf_rd_s=center-1&pf_rd_r=0CY6GSH2JJQMHZFZYPX1&pf_rd_t=101&pf_rd_p=139045791&pf_rd_i=468294

ShadowyFigure 09:38, 4 March 2008 (MST)

[edit] User Page

I have a User Page ShadowyFigure 09:37, 4 March 2008 (MST)

[edit] I want to addopt Warrior of the Spider Clan (DnD Prestige Class)

Ok I wish to adopt Warrior of the Spider Clan (DnD Prestige Class) How to I go about doing this. As I wish to expand it. --ShadowyFigure 10:50, 4 March 2008 (MST)

You got it now, right? --Green Dragon 13:28, 4 March 2008 (MST)
yep ShadowyFigure 03:35, 6 March 2008 (MST)

[edit] Help with the fluff

Hi, As Drow are more your thing and you seem the most living drow encyclopedia (The Drow lich tried to kill me when i ressurected it) I was wandering if you could help with the fluff for the Warrior of the Spider Clan mechanics wise i think it done it jsut needs some decent fluff then needs any grammar or wording mistakes fixed. Thanks. ShadowyFigure 13:25, 6 March 2008 (MST)

[edit] Spider Rider?

Hey Dude look at this —The preceding unsigned comment was added by ShadowyFigure (talk • contribs) 12:13, 17 March 2008 (MDT). Please sign your posts!

[edit] Npc stat blocks.

Ok Im lost. How do I make the stat blocks and is there a template I can use as its the only thing I need for the Hashshashin other then a little fluff ShadowyFigure 16:17, 18 March 2008 (MDT)

[edit] Formula

Sam what is the formula you used to calculate the ShadeSpiders Spider Jump as I need for the epic progression of the Shadow Dancer. Thanks! ShadowyFigure 14:42, 21 March 2008 (MDT)

The epic progression for the shadowdancer is in the SRD. It's shadow jump distance doubles every 2 levels. —Sledged (talk) 14:49, 21 March 2008 (MDT)
He's doing a variant based on the Spider Rider's spider jump. There was no formula; Aarnott just made it up when he suggested the new table for the Spider Rider. Just use the Spider Rider's epic Spider Jump progression (the one I made up) and increase it by 100ft. --Sam Kay 15:20, 21 March 2008 (MDT)


OK! ^^ ShadowyFigure 16:00, 21 March 2008 (MDT)

[edit] Congrats!

I've noticed that your Spider Rider is the only Featured Article! Huzzah! --Sir Milo Teabag 15:53, 21 March 2008 (MDT)

[edit] Abhorsen

Someone... Beat us to it. Abhorsen campaign Setting However I bet our charter mage idea would be cooler! This is also imcomplete so I think we should still make a charter mage and abhorsen class. Maybe expand it further, I'm willing to start after I finish that god damn ShadowDancerShadowyFigure 13:24, 25 March 2008 (MDT)

B****r. Oh, well. Maybe make ours intergrate more with standard D&D CSs? --Sam Kay 13:26, 25 March 2008 (MDT)
(Off-topic) What on earth would be B****r be as a censored word? Like f*** s*** a** are all obvious. B****r? Butter? --Aarnott 13:57, 25 March 2008 (MDT)
Bugger maybe. I like our Charter Mark idea. It rocks. ShadowyFigure 14:01, 25 March 2008 (MDT)
You are correct in both statements, ShadowyFigure. How is butter a censored word?!? --Sam Kay 14:04, 25 March 2008 (MDT)
How is bugger? I used that word when I was like four years old on the playground... --Aarnott 14:20, 25 March 2008 (MDT)
My grandparents tel me off for saying damn... Should damn be a censored word ^^! ShadowyFigure 15:06, 25 March 2008 (MDT)
Bugger-off is an English equivalent to f-off, and some use the 'Bugger' portion by itself. --Calidore Chase 15:33, 25 March 2008 (MDT)
Not true to see bugger at wiki ShadowyFigure 15:52, 25 March 2008 (MDT)
Is true regardless of the wikipedia article. Every English person I know basically uses it as a replacement for the F word. When you say 'Bugger me' you are not saying 'run away me' but 'f me'. Or another example is 'bugger me sideways' - I highly doubt they are thinking 'run away sideways'. I've also heard 'Bugger me running!' which I highly doubt means 'running away me running!'. ----Calidore Chase 18:11, 25 March 2008 (MDT)
As an english citizn i assure you we dont use it to replace the f word. If were gonna say thef word. We'll say it. ShadowyFigure 01:14, 26 March 2008 (MDT)
no, that's just you and some other people... There are people who use it as a replacement for the eff word. It just sounds better! --Sam Kay 03:37, 26 March 2008 (MDT)
I'm not saying that Brit's don't use the 'f' word, I'm simply saying that Bugger is more or less a replacement for it. Lived in England for many years and have adopted the word bugger as one of my personal favorite cusses. I also like to use the phrase 'bloody hell' --Calidore Chase 05:30, 26 March 2008 (MDT)

→Reverted indentation to one colon

Ah, a favourite of the welsh, that last one. My dad is welsh, and he uses it all the time... especially when watching the rugby. --Sam Kay 08:29, 26 March 2008 (MDT)
Ahhh whats happen we've been talking bout censored wording and bugger... In an abohorsen message :S ShadowyFigure 09:56, 26 March 2008 (MDT)

[edit] Charter Marks

Ok I have made a small change to the Pre Load. Now your descriptor will link to a page will all the current descriptors on.

Also you have my marks so I can't add them! :( ShadowyFigure 11:35, 1 April 2008 (MDT)

[edit] GENCON!

GenCOn 2008 in reading.

OK if your 16 when its on you have to pay 22.00 trainfare return. the event it 20 minutes walk from the station. its 12.00 entry. If your coming and I get permission from my dad (mum oked it.) then i'll arange everything online if you give me the money i can do it all under my name as at the event we need id such as the debit card who paid for it. Im the only one who can do that. Message me. User:ShadowyFigure 07:36, 5 April 2008 (MDT)

[edit] Tactical Marine Conversions

Firstly may I point you to Trust your Battle Brother's Trait in the Space Marine Codex.

Im gonna need your help converting them so they hold both a bolter in one arm and a chain sword in the other. Gonna have to by the arms separate (the ones with the chain sword and some with bolt pistol or plasma guns from Assault Squad boxes) Then do a hand conversion and swap the pistol for a bolter. How hard will this be. And well I geuss it will need pinning. Which I was wondering if you could do for me.ShadowyFigure 13:44, 6 April 2008 (MDT)

Shouldn't be too hard, or need pinning. Yes, I could do it for you. --Sam Kay 06:40, 7 April 2008 (MDT)

[edit] DMing

I've been thinking lately and DMing our groups games is starting to actually become less fun then the work i put into the adventures. And I want to know if what B says each setting is actually true. Am I DMing badly? Or being really unfair. I mean I can't think of anything I've done to weaken your characters but B seems to think I am somehow. And then he also complains about the 3 lives rule. Whats your opinion on the whole thing as I'm trying to become a better DM and player and if you think I am unfair in my judgments then can you say. Also if you think B is being unfair then I'd like to know you at least support some of my decisions or have if you have any thoughts on maker are sessions run smoother that would be good. Thanks.

P.s I decided to kill Rurik off and replace him with a fighter instead. This is a tactical fighter who will help the party a lot more then a halfling paladin riding dire badger ^^ and I am writing his history and fluff. Anyway I can never get into a halflings boots well. If B don't like this well tough. ShadowyFigure 14:45, 8 April 2008 (MDT)

I think you are being perfectly fair; I have no idea why B is argueing about everything. I agree with your desicions as DM. As for making the game run smoother, just tell him that you'll use your ruling for the current session and you will discuss it with me in depth later and make a decision for how the situation will work if it comes up again. Your getting a fighter instead of the halfling? good! --Sam Kay 06:15, 9 April 2008 (MDT)
Thanks I'm glad someone thinks I'm being fair! And I will do as you suggest use my ruling for that session then discuss with you afterwards. At least your happy with the Fighter idea. Doubt B will be though but heh who cares. ShadowyFigure 06:19, 9 April 2008 (MDT)

[edit] The Spider Rider and my CS

I just wanted to ask, is it ok if I include the spider rider as a available prestige class in my CS? I mean it wont be as important as it is in yours but I want to add a bit of story line to the drow in my CS even if they arn't a major race in it. ShadowyFigure 14:34, 9 April 2008 (MDT)

Fine by me. Gives me an excuse to play one if you use your CS in one of our games. It was always designed as a PrC available in any CS with the drow and/or lolth. --Sam Kay 14:39, 9 April 2008 (MDT)
Good Good I have to say its been fun making it up though the history is a bit of a pain to straighten out at the moment. ShadowyFigure 14:42, 9 April 2008 (MDT)

[edit] For The Emperor!!!

Hi Sam. Good to know your back online.... Now I can plot yor death.... I mean happy life. Anyway, Started my marines today and have managed to put together a command squad (with bolter conversions which ended up being a piece of cake so I wont need your help) a Captain who not that interesting but will do as a HQ for now, A 5 Man scout Squad with 5 s. rifles and an almost put together assault marine squad. I have also painted the scouts undercoated chaos black spray then base coat of green armor and red capes. The guns are metal colored. I aim to go for a darer green later on this is however just the base coat.

In all everythings good ill be going to the beginners club on sunday again but was wandering if you'd like to have a game with me so I could get the grasp of the game with someone more my age (Those kids were like 10!) Message back ShadowyFigure 15:04, 13 April 2008 (MDT)

I put together a razorback! My first tank. :D YAY! ShadowyFigure 10:04, 14 April 2008 (MDT)

[edit] Psychic Warrior Page needs a new link

Hey, would you be able to add a link on the Psychic Warrior page to the Psychic Warrior Powers List? Would be in the following sentence: Choose the powers known from the psychic warrior power list. As it stands now, there is no link from the Psychic Warrior page to the Psychic Warrior Powers. Thanks! —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 12.146.0.130 (talk • contribs) 10:27, 15 April 2008 (MDT). Please sign your posts!

I just checked- there is a link. If I where to add one, it'd have to be without modifying the existing text; we can't modify the wording of SRD stuff, that is why they are locked. --Sam Kay 13:12, 15 April 2008 (MDT)

[edit] The Brotherhood Calls For YOU!!! 4e Rules for you to look at and love.

As promised, here are the links to enworld. You will ned to register (its free and takes a few minutes)

Monsters and More Random Grab-bag of Monsters

They are real good reads and interesting though there are a few minor error on the Monsters and More so I'm just gonna tweak em if used. Should have a 4e adventurer ready in a few weeks. We will use the pregen characters written out on to 4e c sheets. Talk tomorrow or message me ShadowyFigure 12:08, 15 April 2008 (MDT)

Good... Having looked at the PHB lite, I recon I could make a think for 1st level spider riders and improvise a drow thing, and play a 4e spider rider in our pre-emptive D&D game! What fun! --Sam Kay 13:12, 15 April 2008 (MDT)
look at this ShadowyFigure 13:27, 15 April 2008 (MDT)

[edit] damn internet

Im online now if ya wanna go in the tavern ShadowyFigure 14:36, 15 April 2008 (MDT)

[edit] (Pre 4e Homebrew) The Swordsage by Shadowy Figure

Swordsage Posted on enworld. :D —The preceding unsigned comment was added by ShadowyFigure (talk • contribs) 23:45, 15 April 2008. Please sign your posts!

Your selectable powers do the same thing... Also, look at the rogue powers; they get dexterity to damage as standard, so your swordsage could as well. That would free up some class features. --Sam Kay 04:03, 16 April 2008 (MDT)
They don't... And anyway since I read the article on wotc I'm making a better one. COuld you send me the spider rider? Thanks ShadowyFigure 06:14, 16 April 2008 (MDT)
Updated Swordsage Still needs a bit of work but its pretty good. ShadowyFigure 06:37, 16 April 2008 (MDT)
Look here. Place any comments on the talk page. --Sam Kay 07:26, 16 April 2008 (MDT)
Looks good i'll gladly allow you to playone in the pre 4e adventure. Umm one thing have you got a specific preload or something for it. And you seem to have restricted spider jump a lot. ShadowyFigure 08:00, 16 April 2008 (MDT)
I had to restrict spider jump. And deadly charge, to make way for the spider... What do you mean preload? Do you mean for the powers layouts? I built those from scratch. Just copy and paste them. --Sam Kay 08:02, 16 April 2008 (MDT)
Ok. I actually have to say my first project will be a big overhaul of book of nine swords to 4e. As well it was fun just doing small amounts of work on it. ShadowyFigure 08:04, 16 April 2008 (MDT)
I just hope I've understood the little we know about 4e as well as I think I do... Do you like how I did the spider? --Sam Kay 08:05, 16 April 2008 (MDT)
Could you phone me I'd like to discuss something I'm a tad confused about, and the mount is good though when we have official rules for the spiders the mount should be reffered to as a Spider Mount instead of a monstrous spider ShadowyFigure 08:07, 16 April 2008 (MDT)
Do you think you could make a few second level powers for your spider rider as a geusstimate. As I hope to have you level up to level two for the final encounter. ShadowyFigure 09:26, 16 April 2008 (MDT)
 !!! Renember second level powers are only utilitys ShadowyFigure 14:11, 19 April 2008 (MDT)

[edit] 4e spider

Look here Small Monstrous spider presented there. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by ShadowyFigure (talk • contribs) 07:47, 16 April 2008. Please sign your posts!

I don't need it. I already did a spider rider! It's spider is built from scratch. The spider rider gets some nice powers; one (I don't know how balanced it is) wraps up an enemy in spider skilk when you hit them (requires a followup attack), entangling them. Oh, and the charge ability (deadly charge) is a once per encounter thing, so no big problem. --Sam Kay 04:02, 16 April 2008 (MDT)

[edit] SM

First, Good Game Heretic good game.

HQ

Captain 110 Points w/ Combi-Plasma Gun, Artificer Armor, T Honors

Elites

Troop

Tactical Squad 205 Points 9 Space Marines w/ Las Cannon, Plasma Gun, Bolters x7 and Infiltrate Sergeant w/ Bolter and Infiltrate

Tactical Squad 205 Points 9 Space Marines w/ Las Cannon, Plasma Gun, Bolters x7 and Infiltrate Sergeant w/ Bolter and Infiltrate

Scout Squad 90 Points 4 Scouts w/ Sniper Rifles Sargent w/ Sniper Rifle

Troop

Fast Attack

Assault Squad 250 Points 9 Marines w/ Jump Pack, CC Weapon, Bolt Pistol Sergeant w/ T Honors, Power Fist

Heavy Support

Predator Destructor 125 Point w/ Las Cannons, Pintle Mounted Storm Bolter, Extra Armor

TOTAL: 1000

Just gotta buy me an extra box of tacticals, assaults, two plasma cannon sprues and maybe a new captain depends on what bitz i have left. ShadowyFigure 11:25, 17 April 2008 (MDT)

[edit] Page Spreads

[3]

Look at the images. The pages are way bigger now. Thats how they fit all the stuff in. ShadowyFigure 17:10, 17 April 2008 (MDT)

2 6th level Gnolls Vs Premade 4e characters

[edit] POWER CURVE

Seems that the power curve is good. Expect a hard encounter like the above one in our premade adventure.

ShadowyFigure 13:26, 19 April 2008 (MDT)

[edit] AMAZON

This isn't the actually thing I wanted to message you about but here is a reply from a email sent to amazon asking about preorder delivery dates. Looks like we may not get the on the day what so ever no matter what postage we choose. I'm still ordering an extra anyway.ShadowyFigure 17:06, 25 April 2008 (MDT)

[edit] Experimental 4e monster stat block

Orc Drudge
Medium Natural Humanoid 		Level 4 Minion
XP 44
Initiative: +0 Senses: Perception +0; low-light vision

HP: 1; a missed attack never damages a minion.
AC: 16 Fort: 15 Ref: 12 Will: 12
Speed: 6 (8 while charging)

Image:Basic Melee.gifClub (standard;at-will)♦Weapon
+9 vs. AC; 5 damage.
Alignment: Chaotic Evil Languages: Common, Giant
Str: 16 (+3)
Con: 14 (+2) 		Dex: 10 (+0)
Int: 8 (-1) 		Wis: 10 (+0)
Cha: 9 (-1)
Equipment: Hide Armor, Club

Dice: Image:D6 (1).gif, Image:D6 (2).gif, Image:D6 (3).gif, Image:D6 (4).gif, Image:D6 (5).gif, Image:D6 (6).gif
Symbols: Image:Basic Melee.gif, Image:Melee.gif, Image:Ranged.gif, Image:Close.gif, Image:Area.gif

[edit] keep on the shadow fell

http://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?t=80204 ShadowyFigure 08:51, 12 May 2008 (MDT)

[edit] Dual Class Gesalt

http://www.enworld.org/showthread.php?t=225268

[edit] Expert Advice

I am creating a campaign and am borrowing a lot from Tolkien. However, I do not want my PCs to know. Can you please check on it (my campaign) and tell what is too obvious. Thanks. Simiran

--Palantini 23:53, 19 May 2008 (MDT)

[edit] Another stupid link.

http://www.enworld.org/showthread.php?t=227100 ShadowyFigure 04:06, 26 May 2008 (MDT)

[edit] Title Headers

Image:Th Spider-Kind.png

You would put this at the beggining of a Chapter.

  • Introduction
  • All About Spiderkind
  • Races
  • Classes
  • Feats
  • Powers
  • Equipment
  • Monsters
  • Campaigns

These are the chapter headings. --Sam Kay 07:37, 26 May 2008 (MDT)

[edit] Barnstar

Barnstar                            
I give you this Barnstar for not just taking the initiative to set up the framework for 4th edition material, but, also, populating it with your own ideas. Thank you. —Sledged (talk) 21:28, 9 June 2008 (MDT)

[edit] Fell Beast

Did a DnD search on the wiki =(. Turns out a fell beast already exists, undermining the purpose of a fell beast rider. Should I drop the whole thing? Palantini 22:30, 11 June 2008 (MDT)

[edit] Demigod1

http://forums.gleemax.com/showthread.php?t=1052235

[edit] Aasimar

Ok so, just wanted to ask if you could look over the Aasimar, changed alot of stuff on it. Its now not as weak as it was and more interesting. I know theirs grammr and spelling to do but if you could check for the wording of the rules for me that would be great. Talk Later ShadowyFigure 03:53, 2 July 2008 (MDT)

[edit] Holiday

I am going on holiday to france and will be back in two weeks. Au revoir! --Sam Kay 06:30, 18 July 2008 (MDT)

Have a great trip! Have fun. --Green Dragon 14:03, 18 July 2008 (MDT)
Enjoy! --Aarnott 20:59, 18 July 2008 (MDT)
Thanks. I'm back, had a good holiday. --Sam Kay 04:26, 3 August 2008 (MDT)

[edit] Clothen Master

Hey i made a new 4e class called the clothen master and heard you are fairly familiar with 4e. I was hoping you could look over my class and maybe rate him or tell me what you think. Thanks --Shadow Dragon 13:44, 15 August 2008 (MDT)

[edit] Admin Assistance

Hello, I jumped the gun earlier and moved a page to its new home before realizing I hadn't been on the page I meant to move yet. If you could please delete Valgora so I can redirect correctly and not be a noob it would be much appreciated.   Hooper   talk    contribs    email   13:44, 19 November 2008 (MST)

[edit] Drider race (4th)

Dear Sam,

I've been looking over your Drider entry for 4th edition classes, and think you did some things right, but some things were a little off in terms of balance. I cut down the ability score to just a DEX and CHA because just giving the choice of any of the three physical ability bonuses makes the class overpowered, and we have yet to see another race in 4th that gives you that choice. Also, it made more since for the web power to restrain the foe, because that is what the normal drider does, but having the playable one only last for one round seems like more than enough to balance it out since the monster version lasts until a successful saving throw, not to mention the less range and standard action makes it equal to the drow's Darkfire power. I also changed the size entry to Large (Long) because that's how it was in 3.5 for large creatures that only had the reach of a medium creature, and the medium (Large) entry you put was a little confusing. I hope you'll consider these suggestions, as they shall help to make the playable drider well balanced and understandable.

Signed, Manawolf

[edit] Delete the Following Please

As I explained to you earlier today these articles are abandoned by myself as they are either redundant or I just don't have the energy or time to complete them. Thanks.

Elder Scrolls: Oblivion (DnD Campaign Setting) Elder Scrolls Source Book (DnD Campaign Setting) Ainador: The 'Holy Lands' (DnD Campaign Setting) Eiraer: Breaking the Peace (DnD Campaign Setting) ShadowyFigure/Loot The Room 1 ShadowyFigure/Loot The Room 2 Heroes Tome (4e Sourcebook) Loot The Room (4e Sourcebook)

Thanks again. ShadowyFigure 19:28, 28 November 2008 (MST)

Done. Let me know if you want any of it undeleting. --Sam Kay 02:47, 29 November 2008 (MST)
I just deleted all the pages which link to those pages as well (save Heroic Races (Heroic Power Chapter) - what do you want done with that page?). If you want any of them restored I am sure Sam Kay or I would be more then happy to help. --Green Dragon 05:50, 29 November 2008 (MST)
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