Discussion:Is D20 the same as Dnd?

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Is D20 the same rules as DND?[edit]

James 14:22, 4 April 2010 (UTC)[edit]

I want to know if D20 and DND use the same rules.

JazzMan 19:21, 4 April 2010 (UTC)[edit]

Not exactly. 90% of the things are similar; if you understand D&D you will understand d20 Modern. However, there are some differences:

  • Class structure -- modern has only 6 "basic classes", which are generic and based on each of the six stats. Advanced classes are more specialized, and prestige classes are for the absolute best in a specific area. Basic classes are modular, allowing you to pick which features you want. All types of classes include bonus feats, so you will have a lot more feats than you are used to
  • Defense instead of Armor Class; every class has a defense progression that adds to your defense
  • Reputation bonus -- every class has a progression for this as well
  • Action points -- an option rule in D&D, action points are an important part of Modern
  • Money -- instead of discrete prices, prices of items are a DC and you have to roll a Wealth check to see if you can afford it
  • Cover -- d20 Modern uses degrees of cover and concealment, like D&D 3.0
  • Feats -- obviously you need different sorts of feats; rules are explained for autofiring, burst firing, driving, flying planes, etc
  • Spell power -- even in the highest magic campaign, you don't get to cast spells until at least 4th level
  • Starting occupation -- your "pre-hero life" provides skills, feats and possibly money and fame
  • Alignment is replaced with allegiance; it's not mandatory like alignment, and includes broader categories like your country or religion
  • Lots and lots of little things; not game breakers by any means, just differences necessary to compensate for the fact that you are describing 21st century (or beyond if using d20 Future; 17-20th century if using d20 Past) instead of medieval times.

Edit: I'm assuming you mean d20 Modern. If you are just talking about the D20 System, then that is the system upon which games like D&D and d20 Modern are built. To use an analogy, the d20 system is a white cake mix, and you add flavors to it to customize it how you want. If you want a chocolate cake mix (D&D) you add cocoa (armor class) and chocolate frosting (knowledge: arcana); if you want a strawberry cake (d20 Modern) you add strawberries (defense) and whipped cream frosting (knowledge: technology).

Edit2: I'm also assuming you mean D&D 3.x. 4e is basically not even the same game; it doesn't play nicely with D&D 3.x, nor does it correlate with d20 Modern (which if it had to have an edition, falls somewhere between the D&D equivalent of 3.0 and 3.5).

James 14:34, 10 April 2010 (UTC)[edit]

Thanks this really helps alot.

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