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Just how Damn powerful are the Characters you play with that they ACTUALLY REQUIRE somthing like this? We, as in my group, just hit epics not too long ago, on average lvl 22-23 now. And we even still groan when we have to fight somthing with 60 AC or 3,000 HP, mostly both. Now from what your describing with your example PC, "stomping" Demon lords and such. At a certain point, you must understand that thhere are a bit saner limits than to make somthing with triple digit AC or with enough Health to make your head spin. It's ultimately your decision. Your the DM, But somtimes, characters just get too powerful to be much fun. At a point you must say they became elder gods, defeated the opposition,and created their own pantheon, and you should start again with new characters to fall in love with. Just my opinion.
- Epic gaming, especially in the vein of Immortal's Handbook, where players can reach deific heights and beyond. And no, there is no such thing as "too powerful"; there's always somebody tougher to humble you, even a party of greater deities! And those who stop playing at mere elder god level... I wonder why they would set their sights so low. (: Game on. --Scryer's Eve (talk | contribs) 21:54, 23 October 2011 (MDT)
I appologize, my bud the DM has it in his head that around 30's it's too much of a hassle to keep up with the numbers. And I saw your page. And I, just now really, just learned that there is life after Elders. Where Can I find this book of which I can give J a hemmorage? Hmmm a level 100 Monk (with a few modifications) with anger issues...
- Here's Immortal's Handbook: Ascension, dunno where the Epic Bestiary is (should be somewhere else on that site). And it's okay, I understand that even past level 10, D&D 3.5 (heck, most if not all d20 derivatives) start to break apart at the seams without playing verrry nicely. The numbers alone on some of the monsters I've made, and in the Epic Bestiary, seem impossibly tough. But trust me, they're likely to be crushed like bugs by characters whose ECL is half the monster's CR if using Ascension, which is why I err on the side of pumping their power. Epic gaming is when the kids gloves come off!
- Level 100 monk, you say? Hmm, using Ascension rules he'd be high enough level to qualify as a greater deity. And there are plenty of monk-only divine abilities for him to play with... --Scryer's Eve (talk | contribs) 22:15, 23 October 2011 (MDT)