Talk:Worm Eater (3.5e NPC)

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Armor Class[edit]

His Armor Class is 28, touch 28, flat-footed 28. (+4 Mage Armor, +4 Shield Spell, +3 armor enhancement, +4 shield enhancement, +3 deflection). +4 Mage Armor, +4 Shield Spell, and +3 deflection should stack. The armor enhancement and shield enhancement should not. The touch and flat-footed AC values also need to be corrected. His dex bonus needs to be added. I'm not sure if you want to lower the AC to 22, or add in some other abilities to increase that. Aarnott 13:43, 30 January 2007 (MST)

If I remember correctly, one of the class features of Dmilewski villainous system, is that the characters get enhancement bonuses to their masterwork equipment, effectively giving them magic equipment. The question is, do spell effects constitute as masterwork equipment? If so, then his AC bonuses would be +1 Dex, +7 armor, +8 shield, and +3 deflection. If not, the enhancment bonuses wouldn't apply at all. —Sledged 14:10, 30 January 2007 (MST)
They apply and they stack. (ARMOR stacks with ARMOR ENHANCEMENT. Mage armor is armor. Shield is a SHIELD bonus, and SHIELD ENHANCMENT stacks with that.) Worm Eater is a CR12 boss style encounter. He is meant to be a little hard. A 12th level fighter (elite array) should have +23 to hit (+12 BAB +4 STR +4 STR ENH +3 WEAPON). An AC28 is not excessive for that level. --Dmilewski 14:40, 30 January 2007 (MST)
Then the ACs should be 29 (+1 Dex, +7 armor, +8 shield, and +3 deflection), touch 14, and flat-footed 28. —Sledged 16:09, 30 January 2007 (MST)
AC 28 was definitely not excessive. I was just confused about the stats there and figured they should be corrected to make the AC 28 in some other way. Makes sense now. Off Topic: Is it possible to enchant padded armor (for the low spell failure) to say +3, and then use mage armor to get an overall bonus of +7 in this way? Aarnott 16:30, 30 January 2007 (MST)
Only if you can convince your DM that that's the way it works.Sledged 17:37, 30 January 2007 (MST)
I think I got confused with mage armor and incorporeal touch attacks. THEN it applies.
Mage armor doesn't stack with Padded Armor. You need to track the enhancement as enhancement are targeted. Mage armor is a +4 armor bonus. The padded armor has a +1 armor bonus enhanced with an armor enhancement bonus to make it +whatever. The enhancement to the padded armor does not affect the mage armor. In the villainous system, the villains get an armor enhancement that affects whichever armor they are wearing. If the villain had a +3 armor enhancement bonus, and the villain was wearing padded armor +3, the bonuses would not stack as they both are armor enhancement bonuses.--Dmilewski 17:51, 30 January 2007 (MST)
"Only if you can convince your DM that that's the way it works.Sledged" - Sledged, you make me laugh. --Green Dragon 18:33, 30 January 2007 (MST)
Agreed -- that is hilarious! Aarnott 08:57, 31 January 2007 (MST)
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