Talk:Ratlings (3.5e Race)
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Err... You might want to change the name. I don't think you would know this, but ratling is a copyright of games workshop (makers of warhammer). They are a subrace of humans in 40k. --Sam Kay 11:10, 12 August 2007 (MDT)
- What would you recommend? --Green Dragon 13:24, 12 August 2007 (MDT)
- I don't play Warhammer 40k. Do they really own a TM on the name or do they just use it? --Mkill 22:13, 12 August 2007 (MDT)
- I am pretty sure they do. I will look it up now... yeah, they do.
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- That pretty much includes everything (except lord of the rings stuff). According to the 40K rulebook races and units (that includes ratlings: they are a race and a unit) and neumerous other things as well are copyrighted.
- I would reccomend a name change: dungeons and dragons where able to keep hobbits if they changed the name to halflings. I can't think of any alternative names myself, but if I do, I will let you know. I hope I have been helpful. --Sam Kay 04:23, 13 August 2007 (MDT)
- The point here is copyright vs. trademark. If Ratling is a GW trademark, than the mere word should not be used, but it's obviously not, only GW and Warhammer itself. As for ratling, a quick Google search already found Ratlings in L5R and some old Dungeon issue from AD&D times. Oh, and it appears the 1980 Fantasy RPG "The Fantasy Trip" had Ratlings back then, when Warhammer 40k started only in 1987.
- The word "ratling" itself is not really unique. I'd say this is on the safe side, like calling something a werewolf or an elf. --Mkill 09:40, 13 August 2007 (MDT)
- Ok, fair enough. I'd never heard of it elseware. If you are sure, then leave it as it is. --Sam Kay 11:45, 13 August 2007 (MDT)
- I'm a fan of changing the name and airing on the safe side... I think it should be changed... --Green Dragon 15:35, 13 August 2007 (MDT)
- Ratling, Ratfolk, Ratkin, Ratmen... it's all been there before in some way or the other, as a quick google will tell you. As I said, it's as original as the elf or dwarf, or sword, or dragon, or... unless I'm copying actual text from a Warhammer 40k book here or steal their images, there is no original idea they could claim. --Mkill 22:35, 13 August 2007 (MDT)
- Okay, I just don't want a copyright problem on my hands... --Green Dragon 13:59, 14 August 2007 (MDT)
- Meh. We need a dplc there. All directory pages should work automaticly. Updating each one by hand is too much work and prone to errors. --Mkill 21:26, 14 August 2007 (MDT)
- Your right, however since we do not yet have a dplc page (it has been discussed, just no initiative) it really should be added. --Green Dragon 02:30, 15 August 2007 (MDT)