Talk:One Person Party (3.5e Optimized Character Build)

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Quite Awful[edit]

Let me first start by pointing out inaccuracies in the text:

  • If you take the ranger, take the Two Weapon Fighting combat style and instead of Track(which you get as a ranger bonus feat), get Two Weapon Defense.

You cannot switch out Track for a bonus feat in that way!

  • Through adventuring alone, this character will earn approximately 4 times the amount of money that a normal character would.

You'd also LEVEL UP four times as quickly, and thus your wealth-by-level would not change.

Ok, so now that we have the factual errors out of the way... this build is still awful. At level 20, 3rd level spells from the sorcerer would be worthless, a +13 BAB would barely be able to hit anything, a 3 cleric levels wouldn't provide any worthwhile healing. Indeed, the character begins to be awful at level 3. While he's running around with +0 BAB (unless you use houserules) and 1st level spells, other people are starting to get truly useful abilities. How exactly is he going to fight anything? There are other builds that do similar... but this most certainly doesn't. If you want a core-only character who does everything, go with a straight classed Rogue, Bard, Cleric, or Druid. Dragon Child 01:00, 9 May 2009 (MDT)

I agree, but 3rd level spells can very very usful, not as bombs, but as versatility. For example, gravestrike, and golem strike. Both 1st levels spells, but useful past level 20. Also, fractional BAB is not a house rule, it's from UA. Still an awful build though. If you really want to do this, look into Ur-Priest to offset your MAD, and look for classes that focus more on a certain stat(like using Favored soul and Sorceror). Also, in order for this to work, you need a cheese ball move, i suggest Extraordinary Spell Aim. Exempt yourself from Antimagic field, and use invisability to hide. this means no one use magic like true seeing to find you, and you can dump the levels you have in rogue for Nightstalker's Transformation. --Ganre 18:17, 17 July 2009 (MDT)
Most low-level spells can just easily be found from a magical item, however. And from a character who's using unarmed strikes (which is SUCH a bad idea to begin with!) there's no reason not to get a wand. And everything in UA is a houserule - saying that it's from UA is saying that it is, in fact, a houserule. IMO, if you want a "One Person Party", just play a cleric or druid. This horrible lack of optimization doesn't even come close to offering the versatility of a base class. Dragon Child 18:20, 17 July 2009 (MDT)
But it has 9 monk levels. BROKEN! --Aarnott 19:20, 17 July 2009 (MDT)


With the current title, I'd have expected this to be either a druid or cleric, heh Ghostwheel 00:50, 8 July 2009 (MDT)

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