Talk:Mary Sue (3.5e Class)

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[edit] ...I found this funny.

Give me a couple weeks, I'll make an NPC for you, Valen. You don't mind if I pull some stuff from Immortals Handbook, right? ^w^--Ddragon Necrophades 15:52, 23 December 2008 (MST)

If you mean for you're NPC, I don't care what you use, as long its the most ridiculously overpowered and inordinately broken thing you can find. I also plan on making a race to go with this, probably a "half-elf, half-drow, half-dragon, half-human" or something like that. Any suggestions? -Valentine the Rogue 16:19, 23 December 2008 (MST)
That's easy. Just call it a human subrace, but give it all the abilities of (and the ability to shapeshift into) the highest-CR monster you can find along with a bonus feat and extra skill points (like a human), but still able to use its equipment normally when in its alternate form. Bonus points if the creature is a dragon. --Ddragon Necrophades 21:55, 23 December 2008 (MST)
Oh, ho ho. That made me chuckle. I know what the highest CR (reasonable) creature is, and that's the Great Wyrm Prismatic Dragon. That's just too easy.
Is "reasonable" defined as "real number" or "less than four digits"? If the first one, the neutronium golem (CR 9721) from Immortals Handbook is best. If the second, then yeah, I'd go with the great wyrm prismatic dragon. And don't forget stat adjustments for paragon, half-vampire, half-dragon, vampire, lycanthrope (werewolves are the most common here), half-fiend, half-celestial, and any other level-adjusted template you can think of (keep the Con score, but give Cha to hp as well as AC). And, let's not forget the qualifier, a Mary Sue race can make the same number of attacks with the off-hand as she can with the main hand, takes no penalty for wielding two weapons if she uses a katana in each hand, and adds her full Strength modifier to off-hand attacks made with a katana. This is vital to Mary Sue-ness. o.o --Ddragon Necrophades 15:01, 24 December 2008 (MST)

[edit] Broken

...but funny. Category:April Fools material?   Hooper   talk    contribs    email   16:01, 23 December 2008 (MST)

Well, the point wasn't to be balanced. What power-gaming player do you know that TRIES to be balanced? And, yes this would be Category:April Fools material, I think, but I would ike it to also stay in the Base Class section for fun. -Valentine the Rogue 16:20, 23 December 2008 (MST)

[edit] Someone topped you.

http://www.tgdmb.com/viewtopic.php?t=49303 -- Genowhirl 21:46, 7 January 2009 (MST)

Yea, but it isn't like I put any real thought into this class. I just stole from existing classes and put everything together. That class may have flavor and won't ever die, but it don't have awesome powers like having every spell ever or having power points. -Valentine the Rogue 17:02, 9 January 2009 (MST)


Oh god how I laughed at that class. Thank you for showing it to me. I could not help but think of Eragon and Drizz't Do Urden while reading it. That man must have seen/read every bad novel that includes a ridiculous main character. Stephen King could learn a thing or two from that class for his novels. God knows he already Mary Sue's enough as it is.

[edit] Rating

Power - absurd/5 I give this class a 5 out of 5 because ...well, just look at it! --206.188.51.27 18:13, 30 January 2009 (MST)

I changed the rating to 0/5. 0 can either mean very overpowered or very underpowered. The rating system is like a bell curve graph. When one makes a class with perfect balance it is right at the top - the 5 area. As it gets more overpowered or underpowered the ratings decrease on either side. --Green Dragon 04:58, 2 March 2009 (MST)

Wording - 5/5 I give this class a 5 out of 5 because it's short, punchy, and gets the point across. --206.188.51.27 18:13, 30 January 2009 (MST)

Formatting - 5/5 I give this class a 5 out of 5 because there's no way I could use it and that makes me sad. --206.188.51.27 18:13, 30 January 2009 (MST)

Flavor - 4/5 I give this class a 4 out of 5 because who hasn't known a person like this from time to time? It just gives it that extra bit it needs.. --206.188.51.27 18:13, 30 January 2009 (MST)


[edit] Rating

Power - <<<0>>>/5 I give this class a <<<Insert Your Rating Here>>> out of 5 because <<<insert why you gave the rating and how to improve it>>> --76.190.153.190 14:33, 6 February 2010 (UTC)

Wording - <<<Insert Your Rating Here>>>/5 I give this class a <<<Insert Your Rating Here>>> out of 5 because <<<insert why you gave the rating and how to improve it>>> --76.190.153.190 14:33, 6 February 2010 (UTC)

Formatting - <<<Insert Your Rating Here>>>/5 I give this class a <<<Insert Your Rating Here>>> out of 5 because <<<insert why you gave the rating and how to improve it>>> --76.190.153.190 14:33, 6 February 2010 (UTC)

Flavor - <<<Insert Your Rating Here>>>/5 I give this class a <<<Insert Your Rating Here>>> out of 5 because <<<insert why you gave the rating and how to improve it>>> --76.190.153.190 14:33, 6 February 2010 (UTC)

[edit] Rating

Power - <<<5>>>/5 I give this class a <<<5>>> out of 5 because <<<It's insanly powerfull because of it's level 1 abilities>>> --65.36.8.192 17:56, 16 May 2011 (MDT)

Wording - <<<3>>>/5 I give this class a <<<3>>> out of 5 because <<<It could be worded better because it partially confused me because of the lack of space>>> --65.36.8.192 17:56, 16 May 2011 (MDT)

Formatting - <<<3>>>/5 I give this class a <<<3>>> out of 5 because <<<It could use some modifting to the discriptions>>> --65.36.8.192 17:56, 16 May 2011 (MDT)

Flavor - <<<5>>>/5 I give this class a <<<5>>> out of 5 because <<<It has the ability to be anything and do anything>>> --65.36.8.192 17:56, 16 May 2011 (MDT)

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