Talk:Irda (3.5e Race)
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If this is the same creature presented in Dragonlance Campaign Setting. This page will have to be deleted. WotC's irda is Product Identity so we're not allowed to host it. —Sledged (talk) 09:24, 14 March 2008 (MDT)
Ok, so far we have a -4 overall to stats, a limit of 12 on constitution, and they are cursed. In addition they only have 1 positive ability? I think this race may be a little bit underpowered for a +0 LA, and deffinately not +1. So either add some more abilities, or take away a few negatives to balance this race out, or to make it +1 LA.--Vrail 09:46, 24 May 2010 (UTC)
Irda are high ogres, shouldn't they have the ogre subtype?--Name Violation 17:38, 24 May 2010 (UTC)
- Irda are not ogres. According to the Dragonlance Campaign Setting (or the books, which I learned about them from), irda came before ogres. Most irda were then transformed into ogres, and that is how ogres were made, however those irda that were not transformed are still irda and have no connection to ogres. --Vrail 04:32, 25 May 2010 (UTC)
- everything i can find says Irda ARE ogres (?) "The Ogres were created by Takhisis, and the first of the original three races to be settled on Krynn.
- Original Ogres
- Resembling elves, they were the beautiful of the races, and had been imbued with long life. Unless death was caused by accident or injury, the original ogres were virtually immortal. Also, these original ogres were powerful sorcerers. After the ogre society crumbled because of an internal division between the ogres that wanted peace with other races and those who wanted to enslave them, they turned into twisted, horrible creatures.
- The ogres that wanted to live in peace escaped to an isolated island north of Ansalon, and with the blessing of Paladine, became shape changers. They took the name of Irda to differentiate themselves from the twisted ogres." unless that got changed after second ed...--Name Violation 05:18, 25 May 2010 (UTC)
- Sorry, I guess that was poorly worded. Yes, irda are ogres, but ogres are not irda. The ogre subtype is meant for the normal DnD ogres, whereas the ogres in the Dragonlance Campaign Setting in this specific context are beautiful elf like races. Ergo the irda would not have the ogre subtype as that type is used for the traits of a normal DnD ogre, not a Dragonlance Campaign Setting ogre. Of course, they do need the elf subtype though. Get it? --Vrail 05:42, 25 May 2010 (UTC)