Talk:Flame Stalker Cloak (3.5e Equipment)

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Price Check[edit]

Umm...I don't think something with those kind of abilities can actually cost only 1200 gp. You might want to check up on your Math...

I've noticed that Continual Flame has absolutely nothing to do with dealing damage. If anything, the spell that is close enough for the continual effect you are looking for is Fire Shield, which would most defiantly increase the cost of the spell...not to include the fact that you actually have other spells added onto this cloak, and the fact that silence does not factor in bonus to hide Darkness does), which ups the cost, as per the chart. Frankly, any person who would sell this kind of cloak for 1200 would have to be on some strong drugs...

...not to say I wouldn't love this cloak to be only 1200.

Also, a cloak does not take up the chest slot. -- Flession 04:37, 18 June 2008 (MDT)

Why would you gain a bonus to hide while partially sheathed in fire? I don't understand; surely fire would make you more visible? --Sam Kay 10:50, 21 June 2008 (MDT)
You ever hear of "black flames?" ;) -- Flession 13:19, 29 June 2008 (MDT)
Not recently, nor does the item mention any "black flames." It mentions the wearer being on fire, and things that are on fire are not harder to see than things that are not on fire. Of course, for that reason, the curtain of fire that it generates obviously provides the bright illumination that cancels its own Hide bonus. As an aside, the greater cloak of the salamander does a similar sort of fiery thing - a continual corona of fire that burns opponents that actually strike you in melee, not just come near you - and costs 36,000 gold compared to 1200. Also, "in melee with the character" is a poorly defined term. It could be anywhere five to fifty feet away or more depending on the size and armament of the opponent. A robe - because despite the name(s) it occupies the body slot and is described as being a robe - that just burns opponents continuously without a save, provides the same armor bonus as +4 bracers of armor (16,000 gold pieces alone) and grants stealth abilities? Clearly 1200 was typo. The poster must have meant 120,000. Assuming that your DM allows you to consider a robe of blending to be eligible for the improved silent moves enchantment, perhaps after you used the "improving magic items" chart in the Magic Item Compendium to add the +4 armor, you would already have spent 45,000 gold pieces to make a similar item... and that's before attempting to convince your DM to add the "it's on fire! :D" ability... It's remarkable how even the low-low-low prices in the Magic Item Compendium seem steep after looking at some of the originals on here. Atypicaloracle 10:44, 31 July 2010 (UTC)
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