Talk:Estranged (3.5e Flaw)

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I feel this one could be better. Any suggestions? Flession 06:07, 8 April 2007 (MDT)

I don't see why an evil person would not take this — most do not want friends anyway and could care less is people's attitude turns unfriendly. Maybe a way to improve this would be to make the attitude start as Hostile and if the person with this feat does not take a free action of trying to improve relations by Diplomacy the enemy stays Hostile and will attack. Another thing you could do would be to make this feat have the problem of doubling the Diplomacy check needed to improve any relations with any person. What do you think, do any of these ideas sound okay? --Green Dragon 11:18, 8 April 2007 (MDT)

Well, I can see that as well, but if the DM is stupid enough to let a evil character get this flaw, knowing full well that there won't be any negative effects toward him, it's his own fault. As for your other ideas, I think that's a step in the right direction. Flession 11:46, 8 April 2007 (MDT)

Initial Attitude	New Attitude (DC to achieve)
	Hostile	Unfriendly	Indifferent	Friendly	Helpful	Fanatic
Hostile	Less than 40	40	50	70	100	300
Unfriendly	Less than 10	10	30	50	80	240
Indifferent	—	Less than 2	2	30	60	180
Friendly	—	—	Less than 2	2	40	120
Helpful	—	—	—	Less than 2	2	100

Attitude	Means	Possible Actions
Hostile	Will take risks to hurt you	Attack, interfere, berate, flee
Unfriendly	Wishes you ill	Mislead, gossip, avoid, watch suspiciously, insult
Indifferent	Doesn’t much care	Socially expected interaction
Friendly	Wishes you well	Chat, advise, offer limited help, advocate
Helpful	Will take risks to help you	Protect, back up, heal, aid
Fanatic	Will give life to serve you	Fight to the death against overwhelming odds, throw self in front of onrushing dragon

Are these DC's more what you were thinking of? --Green Dragon 13:00, 9 April 2007 (MDT)

Perfect. You have officially won the game, Green Dragon. Many thanks for assisting me with this. Flession 13:15, 9 April 2007 (MDT)

No problem. --Green Dragon 10:23, 10 April 2007 (MDT)