Talk:Embodied Mouther (5e Race)

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  • Multiattack needs to be explained. "Can attack twice per turn" on its own doesn't work.
  • Senses says "can be used once per short rest" - firstly, this should say "You can use this feature again when you finish a short rest" (or similar). Secondly, it doesn't say how long the benefit lasts for,
  • "or have its speed is -10"
  • "Target of 5 feet get bitten"
    • You need to say this is a melee weapon attack, otherwise there's no information on how it attacks. If you do this, you also don't need to specify that Strength modifier is added to the damage roll. Marasmusine (talk) 08:34, 16 April 2017 (UTC)

Cascading Lock[edit]

Because this page has been locked with the "cascading" option turned, all the templates used in it have been similarly locked. I would appreciate it if this page either didn't have a cascading lock, or did not include any templates that are not already similarly locked. - Guy (talk) 10:57, 22 November 2017 (MST)

What templates are locked that should not be?--GamerAim Chatmod.png (talk) 10:57, 22 November 2017 (MST)
I am chiefly concerned with Template:5a (which redirects to Template:5e Ability), Template:5s (which redirects to Template:5e Skill), Template:5e, and Template:Heightweight. Although I am not immediately concerned with it, Template:5e Image is not locked either and in my opinion should not be locked.
To be frank, it seems particularly unusual to use a cascading lock on this particular page, anyway. - Guy (talk) 11:03, 22 November 2017 (MST)
I'm not really sure why this page has a cascading lock either, but do you have a need to edit any of those templates right now? If so, I can unlock any or all of them. Otherwise, they should probably be protected anyway, since they seem to be used on a great deal many pages.--GamerAim Chatmod.png (talk) 11:22, 22 November 2017 (MST)

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ConcealedLight (talk) 08:41, 22 January 2018 (MST)

Featured Article Nomination[edit]

I believe this race has the potential to be a featured article. I am nominating this page as a featured article, I've looked over it myself and I believe it stands a good chance though it may require some polishing before it approval. As normal this page needs to be supported, commented, or opposed from within the community, and double checked for conformation to featured article formatting and content standards by someone who will then let us know how well it meets these criteria. ConcealedLight (talk) 08:41, 22 January 2018 (MST)

Conditional Support: Mouther's Bite needs a bit of elaboration. Is this in place of any one unarmed strike? Or can you do it multiple times per turn, such as with the Monk's Flurry of Blows? Furthermore, how often can you use Devour? Beyond that, however, I support featuring this race, as they have a cool design and they're a great conversion for Gibbering Mouthers to a playable race. (Varkarrus (talk) 16:34, 15 February 2018 (MST))
Thank you. Yes, the wording I believe communicates that so a monk with flurry of blows could bite multiple times. This is acceptable since its just a tweaked natural weapon. I seem to have missed linking devour to a long rest. --ConcealedLight (talk) 17:55, 15 February 2018 (MST)
  • Conditional Support I really like the flavor of the race, the fluff that is included, the image, and unique traits this has. I don't fully support it currently because the trait Aberrant Origin doesn't follow 5th edition examples of monster types being imparted on races. BigShotFancyMan (talk) 10:21, 3 May 2018 (MDT)
  • Support: This article has sat for quite some time and I believe all issues with it have been addressed. --ConcealedLightThis user is an administrator (talk) 08:11, 22 May 2018 (MDT)
  • Comment If the image is to be displayed on the Main Page then it needs to be locally uploaded. --Green Dragon (talk) 10:44, 13 March 2018 (MDT)
It's been done. --ConcealedLight (talk) 04:52, 14 March 2018 (MDT)
  • Comment. A few questions.
  1. At what exact time does Mouther's Nature go into effect? Maybe making it start after a long rest would help make this a little more practical.
  2. Devour is confusing and in-practical. Why does this sedate hunger better than Mouther's Nature? I recommend making it only sedate the hunger until the next long rest, postponing Mouther's Nature by a day. It would probably make sense to only allow a number of feasts each long rest equal to the amount of days the embodied mouther can withstand their hunger for.

What is your response to the points which I would like to discuss? --Green Dragon (talk) 09:31, 27 March 2018 (MDT)

These are fair points which I hadn't considered. I've tweaked Mouther's Nature to include a specific time, made Devour more clear and few other tweaks such as refer to racial traits in the correctly formatted way. How does it look? --ConcealedLight (talk) 12:38, 27 March 2018 (MDT)

Source link is broken (?)[edit]

It leads to a 403 error for me... Or is the site just down? (Varkarrus (talk) 07:28, 16 February 2018 (MST))

Both the hyperlinked text and the image link work fine and display fine for me. --ConcealedLight (talk) 07:42, 16 February 2018 (MST)
the hyperlinked text still leads to a "403 forbidden" error for me. Maybe it's a regional thing? (Varkarrus (talk) 07:52, 16 February 2018 (MST))
It should work now. The hosting site changed the way it was structured I believe. --ConcealedLight (talk) 11:13, 18 February 2018 (MST)
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