Talk:Druid (Evaluational Base Class Layout)/Back to Footer (breadcrumb)

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Back to Footer (breadcrumb)[edit]

How is the "Back to" footer going to look like on the classes? Which one of the below choices looks the best? --Green Dragon 20:47, 28 March 2007 (MDT)

  1. Back to Dungeons and Dragons->DnD Classes->Base Classes.
  2. Back to: Dungeons and Dragons > DnD Classes > Base Classes.
  3. Back to Dungeons and Dragons > DnD Classes > Base Classes.
  4. Back to Dungeons and Dragons->DnD Classes.
  5. Back to: Dungeons and Dragons > DnD Classes.
  6. Back to Dungeons and Dragons > DnD Classes

--Green Dragon 20:47, 28 March 2007 (MDT)

  • 1 and 4: no (some alternative arrows, if you decide to use any: →, ➡, ➟, >, ›)
  • If the difference between 1-2-3 and 4-5-6 is just the depth, I prefer 1-2-3
  • I can’t decide between 2-3 and 5-6. The colon is nice, but the lack of is nice too.

David Latapie ( | @) — blog 21:09, 28 March 2007 (MDT)
Relevant link to a previous discussion on the topic.
I just changed my opinion on the best way to make all the choices available, so here is my new idea. Insane voting. Anyway, the examples are shows using the current majority. They will be changed as opinions on the best option changes.
How Deep?
Depth Votes
Classes
Classes > Base Classes Cúthalion
Classes > Base Classeswith description Flession | Dmilewski
Classes > Base Classes with description Armond | Green Dragon |David Latapie
Classes > Base Classes > with description Sledged
Classes > Base Classes (Goes to description)
Feel free to move this comment if it's in the wrong place. I just added a link that I've been wanting for some time, DnD Base ClassesDnD Base Classes. My vote would be different without that link. --Cúthalion
I think there should be a space between "Classes" and "with" on where I voted. Armond 15:12, 9 April 2007 (MDT)
Which Symbol? (Two votes per person allowed)
Symbol Example Votes
-> Back to Dungeons and Dragons -> Classes -> Base Classeswith description Armond
> Back to Dungeons and Dragons > Classes > Base Classeswith description Cúthalion | Sledged
Back to Dungeons and DragonsClassesBase Classeswith description Green Dragon | Green Dragon | Cúthalion | Dmilewski | Sledged | Blue Dragon
Back to Dungeons and DragonsClassesBase Classeswith description Armond
Back to Dungeons and DragonsClassesBase Classeswith description
Back to Dungeons and DragonsClassesBase Classeswith description Blue Dragon
Back to Dungeons and DragonsClassesBase Classeswith description
Back to Dungeons and DragonsClassesBase Classeswith description
Back to Dungeons and DragonsClassesBase Classeswith description
Back to Dungeons and DragonsClassesBase Classeswith description
Back to Dungeons and DragonsClassesBase Classeswith description
Back to Dungeons and DragonsClassesBase Classeswith description David Latapie


Spaces?
# of Spaces Example Votes
0 Spaces between symbol and link Back to Dungeons and DragonsClassesBase Classeswith description
1 Space between symbol and link Back to Dungeons and DragonsClassesBase Classeswith description Green Dragon | David Latapie | Armond | Cúthalion | Dmilewski | Sledged
Colon?
Colon Example Votes
Yes Back to: Dungeons and DragonsClassesBase Classeswith description Cúthalion | Sledged (contingent on my comment below the next vote)
No Back to Dungeons and DragonsClassesBase Classeswith description Green Dragon | David Latapie | Armond | Dmilewski
<br/> after "Back to"?
<br/> Example Votes
Yes Back to
Dungeons and DragonsClassesBase Classeswith description
Sledged (see comment below)
No Back to Dungeons and DragonsClassesBase Classeswith description Green Dragon | David Latapie | Armond | Cúthalion | Dmilewski
If a page has multiple bread crumbs, I like the way it looks with only one "Back to" text:
Back to:
Dungeons and DragonsComplex Special Ability ComponentsCleric Spells
Dungeons and DragonsComplex Special Ability ComponentsDruid Spells
Dungeons and DragonsComplex Special Ability ComponentsBard Spells
Dungeons and DragonsComplex Special Ability ComponentsPaladin Spells
Dungeons and DragonsComplex Special Ability ComponentsConjuration Spells
Dungeons and DragonsComplex Special Ability ComponentsConjuration (Healing) Spells
versus
Back to Dungeons and DragonsComplex Special Ability ComponentsCleric Spells
Back to Dungeons and DragonsComplex Special Ability ComponentsDruid Spells
Back to Dungeons and DragonsComplex Special Ability ComponentsBard Spells
Back to Dungeons and DragonsComplex Special Ability ComponentsPaladin Spells
Back to Dungeons and DragonsComplex Special Ability ComponentsConjuration Spells
Back to Dungeons and DragonsComplex Special Ability ComponentsConjuration (Healing) Spells
Sledged (talk) 13:07, 11 April 2007 (MDT)
Say "Back to"?
Wording Example Votes
Back to Back to Dungeons and DragonsClassesBase Classeswith description Green Dragon | Armond | Dmilewski | Sledged (if at the bottom of page)
You are here: (colon vote required) You are here: Dungeons and DragonsClassesBase Classeswith description
<nothing> Dungeons and DragonsClassesBase Classeswith description David Latapie | Cúthalion | Sledged (only if at the top of page)
"Back to" Footer Size
Size Example Votes
Normal Back to Dungeons and DragonsClassesBase Classeswith description Green Dragon | Armond | Cúthalion | Dmilewski
Small Back to Dungeons and DragonsClassesBase Classeswith description David Latapie | Sledged
Big Back to Dungeons and DragonsClassesBase Classeswith description
Color? (No class="even" used as they interfere with the colors)
Color Example Votes
Background Back to Dungeons and DragonsClassesBase Classeswith description Green Dragon | David Latapie | Armond | Cúthalion | Dmilewski | Sledged
Sledged's Color Choice (see User:Sledged) Blue Dragon
Feel free to move this comment if it's in the wrong place. My objection is not how it interacts with the other colors, but that it draws attention to something that doesn't deserve extra attention. --Cúthalion
I've actually changed my mind on this one, because I don't like the way it looks with multiple breadcrumbs. —Sledged (talk) 13:07, 11 April 2007 (MDT)
DnD or no DnD?
Prefix Example Votes
DnD Back to Dungeons and DragonsDnD ClassesDnD Base Classeswith description
None Back to Dungeons and DragonsClassesBase Classeswith description Green Dragon | Armond | David Latapie | Cúthalion | Dmilewski | Sledged
Dungeons and Dragons?
Choices Example Votes
Dungeons and Dragons Back to Dungeons and DragonsClassesBase Classeswith description Green Dragon | Armond | Dmilewski | Sledged
DnD Back to DnDClassesBase Classeswith description David Latapie
D&D Back to D&DClassesBase Classeswith description
Homebrew Back to HomebrewClassesBase Classeswith description Cúthalion
Include Main Page in Heirarchy?
Choices Example Votes
Yes Back to Main PageDungeons and DragonsClassesBase Classeswith description Sledged | Green Dragon | Armond
No Back to Dungeons and DragonsClassesBase Classeswith description
Location
Choices Votes
Top of page
Bottom of page Sledged | Green Dragon | Armond
Top and bottom of page
Determined on page-by-page basis
Initially I liked having the breadcrumb at both the top and bottom, but when you have multiple breadcrumb trails, or if one is particularly deep, it clutters up the top of the page. However, I wouldn't mind having a link at the top of the page that takes you directly to the "back to" footer. —Sledged (talk) 13:07, 11 April 2007 (MDT)
Users Preferences
User Choice Chosen (By voting)
Green Dragon Back to Main PageDungeons and DragonsClassesBase Classes with description
David Latapie DnDClassesBase Classes with description
Armond Back to Dungeons and Dragons -> Classes -> Base Classes with description
Back to Dungeons and DragonsClassesBase Classes with description
Cúthalion Homebrew > Classes > Base Classes

HomebrewClassesBase Classes

Dmilewski Back to Dungeons and DragonsClassesBase Classeswith description
Sledged Back to:
Main PageDungeons and DragonsClassesBase Classeswith description
Main Page > Dungeons and Dragons > Classes > Base Classes > with description

See user page to view in context.

--Green Dragon 14:00, 29 March 2007 (MDT)

Tentative Summary[edit]

It seems this one is a what we agreed upon

Back to Dungeons and DragonsClassesBase Classeswith description

David Latapie ( | @) — blog 19:04, 9 April 2007 (MDT)
Yes, that is the one with the most votes. However, is
Back to Dungeons and DragonsClassesBase Classes with description
better or worse than
Back to Dungeons and DragonsClassesBase Classeswith description
? --Green Dragon 13:04, 10 April 2007 (MDT)
I prefer the first one, with a space before with description.
David Latapie ( | @) — blog 13:25, 10 April 2007 (MDT)
Same here. I changed your and my votes to match the choice with the space. The choice with the space now has the most votes :). --Green Dragon 13:36, 10 April 2007 (MDT)
 :-) As for my choice (compact breadcrumb): I understand it may not look that appealing here, because it is taken out of context. I think that, in order to truly see it working (or not), it will be necessary to put it in production, on a page with dozens of information and links.
David Latapie ( | @) — blog 13:53, 10 April 2007 (MDT)
How about everyone put their choice(s) on their user page? —Sledged (talk) 13:07, 11 April 2007 (MDT)
Please don't! IT is work enough to check all of this :-)
David Latapie ( | @) — blog 13:24, 11 April 2007 (MDT)
Perhaps, but I think it would be worth it to see all the choices in context. —Sledged (talk) 13:34, 11 April 2007 (MDT)
I did misunderstood you. I will fix this when I'll have time.
David Latapie ( | @) — blog 16:16, 11 April 2007 (MDT)

This discussion is being closed, I am sorry if you did not have time to vote. Anyway, the final choice is.....

Back to Main PageDungeons and DragonsClassesBase Classes with description

This will only be on the bottom. Also, in comment to how this does not please Sledged as his focuses around multiple "Back to"'s—on DnD Classes there will not be multiple choices so the br does not apply here. --Green Dragon 23:58, 17 April 2007 (MDT)

I was under the impression that the changes to the breadcrumbs would apply to all pages, not just the classes. —Sledged (talk) 12:06, 20 April 2007 (MDT)
I think it would be better to first make a discussion like this for the other main areas and then go off that discussion—not this one. If that is the case then the breadcrumb for spells can be different. I don't think we should make this the standard without first looking at it in different areas, I think this should just be required for base classes at the moment. --Green Dragon 14:02, 22 April 2007 (MDT)
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