Talk:Driders (4e Race)

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Too many languages, most basic races only gain two languages at character creation let alone 4! Please try to narrow these down. --Ktonos 10:06, 4 July 2008 (MDT)

Common, Elven, Deep Speech seems reasonable for Driders. Some official races do have 3 languages (such as half-elves). I would eliminate your "Spydric" language. 4th ed. design philosophy is to minimize the number of languages and to introduce as a few new languages a possible. --Lysos 08:09, 5 January 2010 (UTC)
Half-elves have that as one of their 'versatility' features, though. Take Goliath as an example, and go for a choice between Elven and Deep Speech.


I have reverted manawolf's changes, as I would like him to discuss his ideas for improvement on this page's discussion page instead of just changing the page. I am happy to recieve constructive criticism, but I think that it would be easier for the page to be improved from advice rather than just changed. --Sam Kay 14:42, 26 November 2008 (MST)

Spider Climb[edit]

I think permanent spider climb is too powerful, especially with 7 speed and spider climb 7. Perhaps a once-per-encounter effect or such would be more balanced.

another option is a bonus to athletics checks made to climb, this would make it seem like a trait of them rather than a power, additionally you could have it where they can choose to get the bonus or not use their hands allowing them to still be in combat while climbing a surface. --Aitharious (talk) 13:22, 7 July 2016 (MDT)


Is there any reason why driders should receive rapier proficiency? It's not like they haven't already got enough features, plus a superior weapon proficiency seems quite a lot.

A rapier is no longer considered a superior weapon and is now a military one handed light blade, so is this even relevant anymore? --TechyKat (talk) 21:19, 26 July 2012 (MDT)

Hand crossbow is simple ranged so the trait is really just a guarantee to use a military weapon, making it mostly useless as any melee class would get to use it anyways, additionally it doesn't seem to fit the monstrous air that Driders give. --Aitharious (talk) 13:15, 7 July 2016 (MDT)

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