Talk:Dragon Avatar (3.5e Prestige Class)

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Esteemed sir, I believe this class is not clear. At all. Not because of your respectable efforts in making it, but because of gramatical aspects of the class itself. Now, asumo que usted habla español, puesto que algunos de los "errores", si de tal manera quiere considerarlos, parecen provenir de una traduccion fallida. Sin embargo, por respeto al esfuerzo que representa el crear una clase accesible para nosotros, los demás adictos a este maravilloso hobbie, le ofrezco mi asistencia en lo que respecta modificar lo que sea necesario modificar, haciendolo entendible en un idioma del que tengo bastante dominio. Eso si le parece bien, "dragonfan1". Quedo de usted, --TYRWNTS2BUY 21:51, 10 June 2011 (MDT)

Really?[edit]

Please tell me that you aren't serious with this. This is OP to the point where it would destroy any game you put it in. I suggest looking at the Dragon Ascendant prestige class in Draconomicon for some ideas on how to balance this. -Silverkin 13:57, 6 January 2012 (MST)

I think this is more of an NPC geared prestige class, used for building dragons in a specific world-type. Rather than being broken, it is used for a specific purpose. If you're playing a campaign in which you would equate dragons to omniscient beings, then you can use this prestige class in conjunction with the base dragon template and pull it off effectively. I also kind of like the idea of dragons being god-like, and if I ever design a campaign as such, I'll most likely base my dragons off a similar prestige class. As with all prestige classes, it is up to the DM to allow it in the game, so if used properly it seems like a great idea. Though, it does have quite a few wording issues, to the point where some thing are not understandable. If I have the time, I will attempt to go through it and fix these issues. --173.245.55.116 22:57, 7 January 2012 (MST)
I see what you mean there, but it probably needs some precautions to make it less accessible to PCs - the dragon type is not difficult to achieve. Perhaps the True Dragon type would be a good requirement, the only way I know of for a PC to get that is a particular feat that has requirements beyond the reach of most PCs, even in a gestalt campaign. I still recommend looking at the Dragon Ascendant PrC in Draconomicon, which provides a lot of the same benefits as this one does and has a number of ways to evade PCs. It isn't impossible, but it requires long planning regarding class selection, even at early levels. Even in a gestalt setting, it took nearly twenty levels just to meet the requirements, and I'd been building my character to fit those requirements the whole time. This class is more powerful than the Dragon Ascendant, and could be taken at twentieth level by any half-dragon or dragonwrought kobold with a full BAB progression, without any other special preparation. It would be a good idea to fix that. -Silverkin 08:50, 8 January 2012 (MST)
Dragonwrought kobolds are Ture Dragons(have an age category, and get more powerful as they get older). The BAB and spell requirements should effectively shut out players under level 35 or so(10-15 from a 9th level casting class, +1/2 per epic level).
That being said I have some reservations:
  • d25s for Hit Dice, really?
  • The race be listed as "ONLY DRAGON" is tacky, and needs to be clairified
  • You are in serious need for some grammer and spelling editing
  • Last, but most importantly, this class grants a divine rank. I suggest you read what you get for divine rank 1, as it pretty dwarfs every other ability class grants. If you acheive godhood in any class, it should be a capstone ability, and it should not be done lightly. --Ganre 14:32, 29 March 2012 (MDT)
I personally would file this under the "what were you thinking" file. It is highly unnecessary for any game mechanics. Besides most divine beings are able to assume forms at will including dragons if they so desire. Tivanir (talk) 10:53, 14 May 2012 (MDT)
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