Talk:Daggerspell Master (3.5e Optimized Character Build)

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doesn't meet prereq...[edit]

The build doesn't qualify for weapon focus at level 2. you need a BAB of +1 or higher --Name Violation 05:55, 17 October 2009 (MDT)

Daggerspell Mage needs Arcane caster level 5. --Lord Mattos 11:53, 29 November 2009 (MST)
Its called practiced spellcaster, dumbass. and hes getting WF at level 5, not 2
Normally, I'd tell you to sign your posts, but it really doesn't matter who you are with manners like that. --Ganre 00:58, 26 December 2009 (MST)
It's obviously a broken rule and bad powerplaying, any good master will prohibit using this exploit.
I don't understand how to get both weapon finesse AND practiced spellcaster as wizard level 1/character level 3

d&d 3.5 faq pg 30

"Does a 1st-level wizard/4th-level rogue with Practiced
Spellcaster qualify for a prestige class that requires
“Spellcaster level 5th”?
No. This prestige class requirement doesn’t refer to your
caster level (a value which can be modified by many feats,
class features, and even temporary effects) but to your actual
level in a spellcasting class. (If it helps, you can think of this
requirement as “Spellcaster, 5th level.”)
The same applies for characters whose caster level is less
than their class level. A 5th-level paladin meets the “Spellcaster
level 5th) requirement" --Andy
The faq isn't generally seen as official, and this issue has never been officially errata-ed, despite numerous opportunities in more recent published sources. as it stand practiced spell caster is a legitimate way of qualifying. However, this build gets 2 feats at level 3 somehow, and it is never explained, therefore, it does not meet the prereqs. --Ganre (talk) 15:43, 24 June 2014 (MDT)
I could probably shed some light on this. Practiced Spellcaster feat increases caster level for a chosen spellcasting class increases by +4. It doesn't increase your caster level beyond your HD, however, even if you can't benefit from the full bonus immediately, if you later gain noncaster-level HD you are able to apply the rest of the bonus. 5th level wizards get a bonus feat. By level 5, you may then receive then weapon finesse. Practiced spellcasting allowing for this to even happen, weapon finesse is listed next to it. --Sanichi
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