Talk:Advanced Vital Statistics (3.5e Variant Rule)

[edit] Variant Rule?

Is this really a variant rule or should it be included on the corresponding races page as part of vital statistics? Also, if this is a variant rule is it a Supplemental Variant Rule or a non-supplemental variant rule? Supplemental Variant Rule's include the new way DnD Rules will be organized, for the discussion on how DnD Rules is being changed see Talk:Dungeons and Dragons under "Other => Discussion & Guidelines". --Green Dragon 11:55, 23 March 2007 (MDT)

It's a variant rule, probably a suppliment, but I'm not sure where it really goes. I'm hoping to get better modifiers for creatures, though.--Pz.Az.04Maus 15:16, 25 March 2007 (MDT)

So, this can supplement any campaign without adding too many new additions in? Don't you need the races present to use this, or am I missing something? --Green Dragon 20:34, 25 March 2007 (MDT)

You would need a few additions, such as different heights (Optional, though), and also think of what their height would be. but other than that, I'd guess it's a suppliment. --Pz.Az.04Maus 01:54, 3 April 2007 (MDT)

Okay... Which of these two choices do you think fits this better?

— A supplemental variant rule can be implemented into a campaign with little or no change in the core dynamics. These rules cover an area that the core rules do not cover or do not cover well.

— A transformational variant rule, when implemented into a campaign, will change the core dynamics. These rules change the core rules to make them more playable or more realistic while staying in the d20 framework.

--Green Dragon 13:36, 7 April 2007 (MDT)

[edit] Supplemental Variant Rule

EldritchNumen, would you mind clarifying your decision to make this a Supplemental Variant Rule? --Green Dragon 10:37, 10 April 2007 (MDT)

Sure. If you read over the article, and look carefully at the numbers, what is being proposed is basically just an expansion of the existing numbers, and includes more complexity to account more realistically for stages of development, etc. In the end, though, this is just an expansion of the existing rules. I consider it to be a module that, if chosen, does not supplant the core rules, but rather takes them and expands them for greater realism. It is a module that adds depth. Some people like this, and some people don't, but-- either way-- is simply adds choices to how complex a group wants the rules to be. It supplements and expands the core rules, but does not reject or replace them. —EldritchNumen 14:22, 10 April 2007 (MDT)

I finally took some more time to look over this and I agree as this just embellishes on the current rules for aging. The only reason I was wondering was because this is very confusing, not formatted well, and not written well. I would never have had this question had this been easier to understand. I think it might be a good idea to make this a stub, as it is not done, what do you think? --Green Dragon 16:50, 10 April 2007 (MDT)

[edit] Name

I do not think that this name (Advanced Aging/Height/Weight Rules) reflects the goal of this variant rule and I think it is also very confusing. I would like a name change however I am not very good with thinking of good names. Does anyone have a good idea for a better name for this variant rule, or is a new name not needed? --Green Dragon 16:59, 10 April 2007 (MDT)

How does "Advanced Vital Statistics" sound? --Green Dragon 22:07, 11 April 2007 (MDT)

Works. --Pz.Az.04Maus 15:15, 23 April 2007 (MDT)

Done. Hope it is better. --Green Dragon 21:48, 23 April 2007 (MDT)

Yey! --Pz.Az.04Maus 15:54, 5 May 2007 (MDT)