Reflexman (3.5e Optimized Character Build)

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Contents 1 Introduction 2 References 3 Game Rule Components 3.1 Items 3.2 Progression 3.3 Other Components 4 Highlights 5 Side Notes 5.1 Limitations 5.2 DM Counters

[edit] Introduction

This build allows for a ridiculously high Reflex save that eventually covers Fortitude and Will too.

[edit] References

Player's Handbook, Dungeon Master's Guide, Complete Adventurer, Complete Arcane, and Complete Scoundrel.

[edit] Game Rule Components

[edit] Items

Anything that improves Dexterity or Reflex saves.

[edit] Progression

Starting Ability Scores (Before Racial Adjustments): As long as you have a good Dex score, you should do very well.

Race: [[3e Race::Human]]

Alignment: Any Evil.

Starting Racial Traits:

ECL	Class	Base Attack Bonus	Saving Throws			Feats	Class Features	Special
			Fort	Ref	Will
1st	Rogue 2	+0	+0	+2	+0	Dodge, Mobility	Sneak Attack +1d6
2nd	Rogue 2	+1	+0	+3	+0	N/A	Evasion
3rd	Rogue 2, Ninja 1	+1	+0	+5	+0	Combat Reflexes	Ki Power, Sudden Strike +1d6, + (Wis modifier) bonus to AC
4th	Rogue 2, Ninja 2	+2	+0	+6	+0	N/A	Ghost Step (Invisible)
5th	Rogue 2, Ninja 2, Assassin 1	+2	+0	+8	+0	N/A	Sneak attack +2d6, Death Attack, Poison Use, Spells (Assassin)	<- other stuff ->
6th	Rogue 2, Ninja 2, Assassin 2	+3	+0	+9	+0	Weapon Finesse	+1 save against poison, Uncanny Dodge	<- other stuff ->
7th	Rogue 2, Ninja 2, Assassin 2, Shadowdancer 1	+3	+0	+11	+0	N/A	Hide in plain sight	<- other stuff ->
8th	Rogue 2, Ninja 2, Assassin 2, Shadowdancer 2	+4	+0	+12	+0	N/A	Darkvision (60'), Uncanny Dodge	<- other stuff ->
9th	Rogue 2, Ninja 2, Assassin 2, Shadowdancer 2, Duelist 1	+5	+0	+14	+0	Weapon Focus (dagger)	Canny Defense	<- other stuff ->
10th	Rogue 2, Ninja 2, Assassin 2, Shadowdancer 2, Duelist 2	+6	+0	+15	+0	N/A	Improved Reaction +2	<- other stuff ->
11th	Rogue 2, Ninja 2, Assassin 2, Shadowdancer 2, Duelist 2, Thief-Acrobat 1	+6	+0	+17	+0	N/A	Fast Acrobatics, Kip Up, Steady Stance	<- other stuff ->
12th	Rogue 2, Ninja 2, Assassin 2, Shadowdancer 2, Duelist 2, Thief-Acrobat 2	+7	+0	+18	+0	Point Blank Shot	Agile Fighting +1/+2, Slow Fall (20')	<- other stuff ->
13th	Rogue 2, Ninja 2, Assassin 2, Shadowdancer 2, Duelist 2, Thief-Acrobat 2, Invisible Blade 1	+7	+0	+20	+0	N/A	Dagger sneak attack +1d6, Unfettered Defense	<- other stuff ->
14th	Rogue 2, Ninja 2, Assassin 2, Shadowdancer 2, Duelist 2, Thief-Acrobat 2, Invisible Blade 2	+8	+0	+21	+0	N/A	Bleeding wound +1, Uncanny Feint	Take the Skill Trick "Group Fakeout"
15th	Rogue 2, Ninja 2, Assassin 2, Shadowdancer 2, Duelist 3, Thief-Acrobat 2, Invisible Blade 2	+9	+1	+21(+2)	+1	Lightning Reflexes	Enhanced Moblity	<- other stuff ->
16th	Rogue 2, Ninja 2, Assassin 2, Shadowdancer 2, Duelist 4, Thief-Acrobat 2, Invisible Blade 2	+10	+1	+22(+4)	+1	N/A	Grace
17th	Rogue 2, Ninja 2, Assassin 2, Shadowdancer 3, Duelist 4, Thief-Acrobat 2, Invisible Blade 2	+11	+2	+22(+4)	+2	N/A	Shadow Illusion, Summon Shadow
18th	Rogue 2, Ninja 2, Assassin 2, Shadowdancer 4, Duelist 4, Thief-Acrobat 2, Invisible Blade 2	+12	+2	+23(+4)	+2	Dive For Cover	Shadow Jump (20')
19th	Rogue 2, Ninja 2, Assassin 2, Shadowdancer 5, Duelist 4, Thief-Acrobat 2, Invisible Blade 2	+12	+2	+23(+4)	+2	N/A	Defensive Roll
20th	Rogue 2, Ninja 2, Assassin 2, Shadowdancer 6, Duelist 4, Thief-Acrobat 2, Invisible Blade 2	+13	+3	+24(+4)	+3	N/A	Shadow Jump (40'), Summon Shadow
21st	Rogue 2, Ninja 2, Assassin 2, Shadowdancer 7, Duelist 4, Thief-Acrobat 2, Invisible Blade 2	+14	+3	+24(+8)	+3	Epic Reflexes	Slippery Mind	This is the earliest that one can get to the required 25 Dex with Slippery Mind, assuming that you started with 18 Dex.

Continue this until you have 25 Dex. Take Dexterous Fortitude/Dexterous Will (or Great Dexterity to expedite the process of getting to 25 Dex) at the next feat(s) gained.

[edit] Other Components

Uhhhhhhhhh, not yet.

[edit] Highlights

The base Reflex Save for a lv21 Reflexman (The minimum required to obtain everything in this build) is +32! If, by lv21, you can manage to get Dexterous Fortitude or Dexterous Will, you become vastly harder to take out with spells, even those of epic creatures. Just in case you fail a Reflex Save, the feat Dive For Cover will give you one more chance, and with Evasion (not even Improved Evasion, unless you fail both checks) you become virtually invulnerable to anything that normally gives a Reflex Save.

[edit] Side Notes

Uhhhhhhhhh, not yet.

[edit] Limitations

The build-up is arduous, and the prerequisites are very specific.

[edit] DM Counters

Physical combat creatures that don't use/need to use spells.

Target with more than one effect that requires a Fortitude or Reflex save in a single round.

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