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Lerune Cities (Lerune Supplement)

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This supplement details settlements in Lerune.

==='''The City of Redglade'''===

Redglade is a town of knowledge and magic. The greatest magic users of Ferrum are trained at the renowned Boemere Academy. People come from great distances to visit the library. One of Ferrum's most ancient cities, legends say that Redglade was the site of a great battle during the Dragon War.

'''Population:''' 9004 (equal mix of Human, Tiefling, Dragonborn, and Elf. Small % of Dwarves, Halflings, and Half-Elves; no Eladrin)

'''Alignment:''' Unaligned

'''Patron Deity:''' Ioun

'''Lord:''' The Countess Jade (Human)

'''Lord Mayor:''' Adzin (Dragonborn)

'''Captain of the Guard:''' Bragg (Human), '''Guard compliment:''' 450

'''Taverns:''' The Silver Arrow, Rotting Goblin, Black Apple, Chicken & Hooch, The Frolicking House of Fish

'''Temples:''' Ioun, Raven Queen, Erathis, Corellon, Kord

'''Stores:''' The Hard-axe, General Store, Hera's Magic Emporium

'''Places of Interest:''' The Boemere Academy, Library, Guardtower, Barracks

==='''West Crook'''===

West Crook is a small port city of trade located at the intersection of two major rivers. It has the unique design of a natural elven city being incorporated into the natural environment. Most of the city is located in the treetops using wooden bridges and lifts to get around. It features the Skullsplitter school for the more advanced training of adventurers. Most popular however is probably the Auction House which features exotic items from around the world.

'''Population:''' 7354 (equal mix of Human, Tiefling, Dragonborn, Elf, Dwarf. Small % of Halflings, Half-Elves, Half-Orcs; no Eladrin)

'''Alignment:''' Good

'''Patron Deity:''' Avandra

'''Mayor:''' Drell Octern (Elf)

'''Captain of the Guard:''' Phen Skullsplitter (Dwarf), '''Guard compliment:''' 300

'''Taverns:''' Fortune's Lodge, Benign Hero, Jagged Maiden, The Red & Green Archer

'''Temples:''' Avandra, Pelor, Corellon, Moradin, Melora

'''Stores:''' The Platinum Sword, Blackened Iron, The Adamantine Hammer, Last Creation(magic), The Crusty Implement (general)

'''Places of Interest:''' Public Forge, Auction House, Trade Guild, Skullsplitter School of Sword and Sorcery, The Docks

==='''Othdoxi'''===

Othdoxi is the capital of the Kingdom of the Forgotten Sun. A theocracy of Pelor, Othdoxi boasts the largest temple to any deity on the material plane. Othdoxi is also headquarters to the Holy Army of the Sun. Very often the army is called upon to aid those in need.

'''Population:''' 15,026 (equal mix of Human, Dragonborn. Small % of Elves, Half-Elves, Eladrin, Dwarves, Halflings)

'''Alignment:''' Good

'''Patron Deity:''' Pelor

'''High Priest:''' Kalos (Dragonborn)

'''Captain of the Guard:''' Minerva (Eladrin), '''Guard compliment:''' 950

'''Taverns:''' The Black Hero Tavern, The Sun's Bounty, The Falling Seagull Restaurant

'''Stores:''' Through the Fire and Flames, The Golden Sun Magic Emporium.

'''Temple:''' The High Temple of Pelor

'''Places of Interest:''' Othdoxi Keep, High Temple, The Great Library, Headquarters of the Holy Army of the Sun

==='''Menara'''===

Menara is a small village that borders Morrowood.It is home to many young elves that are in the midst of beginning to explore the world outside the woods. Menara specializes in producing a rare type of elven wine. The other purpose of the village is to provide magical instruction to aspiring wizards especially elven youths. Nearby bands of roaming goblins provide plenty of opportunities to practice the arcane arts.

'''Population:''' 15,026 458 (large % of elves, small% of half-elves,eladrin,humans,dwarves)

'''Alignment:''' Unaligned

'''Patron Deity:''' Corellon

'''Patriarch:''' Adharma Starcross (Elf)

'''Captain of the Guard:''' Darla Dufel (Human), '''Guard Compliment:''' 15

'''Taverns:''' The Duchess, The Wizard's House of Stew

'''Stores:''' Dragonstorm's Arms and Armor, Duchess General Store, Livery, Ogatti's Magic Shop

'''Temples:''' Corellon, Moradin

'''Places of Interest:''' Ogatti's School for the Arcane Arts, Vineyard

==='''Vahn'del'''===

Vahn'del is a town set up to celebrate the freedom of choice. A group of half-elves, tired of being expected to fit into one society or the other got together and took their destiny in their own hands to build this new place where they could live as individuals, not members of 2 races. The idea attracted many other people and luck has seemed to favor this town. Several gem mines have been set up in the area, so Vahn'del is the source of some of the area's finest jewels and jewelry. The House of Luck attracts people from far and wide to try and win at such games as Three Dragon Ante. Held annually, the Three Dragon Ante tournament attracts visitors from far and wide.

'''Population:''' 3302 (large % of half-elves, mid % of elves and dwarves, small% of halflings and humans)

'''Alignment:''' Good

'''Patron Deity:''' Avandra

'''Mayor:''' Brenda Greenflower (Half-elf)

'''Captain of the Guard:''' Goren Mountainboot(Dwarf), '''Guard Compliment:''' 250

'''Taverns:''' The Musty Dwarf, The Flying Elf, The Handsome Swordsman

'''Stores:''' Entita's Stuff, Kragstein Arms, The Lovely Lily (Magic Shop), Muggik Mudhammer's Precious Stone Emporium

'''Temples:''' Avandra, Corellon, Moradin

'''Places of Interest:''' The House of Luck (gambling), Gem Refinery

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== Very Low Magic Setting ==

=== [[User:Lord Dhazriel|Lord Dhazriel]] 21:38, 24 April 2008 (MDT) ===

Im currently working on a very low magic setting (with very few magic), [[Legacy of Darkness (3.5e Campaign Setting)]]. Many things were changed, now the wizard is a prestige class and spellcaster are uncommon to almost non-existent in all land except Fallen Elven and High Elven lands. The cleric was so much changed that they have almost no more spellcasting (level 5 max), he gain others ability that compensate however. Druid also became a prestige [[Classes (LoD Supplement)|class]]. Do someone have any advice or idea to share.

=== [[User:Kelly|Kelly]] 20:07, 2 May 2008 (MDT) ===

I'm a big fan of low-magic settings - I think they capture the feel of classic fantasy, mythology, and epics far more than standard D&D rules and settings. When magic becomes just another consumer item to keep trading up and it's taken for granted you can be raised from the dead, there's something very very wrong in my opinion - although the Eberonn setting is pretty cool in that it really imagines what it would be like in a world where magic becomes industrial.

However, my take on it is different than Dhazriel's. I don't limit the players options but instead emphasize that the characters really are outstanding individuals with abilities that far outstrip those around them. You can play a cleric, but the character is truly touched by their god and is performing miracles, like a Medieval saint - other clergy of the same religion might be knowledgeable and maybe even know how to perform some rituals of spiritual nature (something that would mimic the spell Hallow, for instance), but not cast spells the way a PC cleric can.

The trickiest thing for DM running a low-magic campaign is adjusting the challenges and the rewards. Combat is much deadlier without magic armor and protective devices to lower the player's AC, and they can't rely on being able to stack up on healing potions and the like either. Long dungeon crawls would be especially problematic, unless you create obstacles that are more about problem-sloving than combat. Monsters that require magic to hit should be rare and will be particularly challenging, as magic weapons should be very hard to come by (although spellcasters should realize that spells such as Magic Weapon and Shilleleigh will be much more valuable than in a standard campaign). Likewise, since you're not handing out ever-more powerful magic items as treasure, and players can't spend their gold at the towne magic shoppe, you have to come up with rewards that the players care about. A lot of this involves roleplaying - it could be honors and fame for doing great deeds, it may mean creating goals to reach that playwers care more about than just the accumulation of gold pieces, or it could be encouraging players to imagine the great times their characters are having as they blow their cash on some serious debauchery.

One other note about magic items: when they show up, they should be impressive. Instead of having everyone ooh and aah because you '''finally''' found a +1 sword, you should wait until the time is right in the campaign to introduce things that are really impressive. That could be early or it could be late. Bilbo Baggins found the magic dagger Sting fairly early in "The Hobbit", and that weapon stayed with him throughout the book and then into 'Lord of the Rings'. Drawing Excalibur from the stone transormed the life of Arthur, while Elric's life was twisted in a wholly different way when he found Stormbringer. Fafhrd and the Gray Mouser got on just fine throughout their careers with no magic weapons at all, but occasionally found weird bits of maigc that they employed just at the right moment.

=== [[User:Lord Dhazriel|Lord Dhazriel]] 20:22, 2 May 2008 (MDT) ===

In fact, my Theurgist (which is in definition someone who do magic with the helps of gods) take the mantle of the cleric. He is a PrC, okay it annoying to have a base class (not exactly however) a PrC. But if something is powerful enough to bring a dead man back to life (only with 9th level spell) then it deserve to be a PrC. I created some powerful twisted (sacred) magic items in the campaign. There is still some place were magic is "common" like elven town. Humans tends think magic is witchcraft (mistaking Adepts (the base divine class, not the Adept NPC) and Arcanists (base arcane class) for Warlocks. I don't limit player choice, i simply slower thing down with obstacle after all magic is't supposed to be easy.

=== [[User:Pwsnafu|Pwsnafu]] 22:02, 6 May 2008 (MDT) ===

Well, 4E is a month and a bit away, and can play low-magic/no-magic out of the box, so I would just convert. And if you want 3.5, there's always Iron Heroes. Get a copy and see what Monte did.

=== [[User:Lord Dhazriel|Lord Dhazriel]] 06:09, 7 May 2008 (MDT) ===

Convert to 4e, no, it take a while for me to convert from 2e to 3.5e. And im not inclined toward already done adventure, mine are better and cheaper. Still thank you for the information.



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== User Page ==

Was putting QI instead of IQ next to Int intentional? And what is Sag (on your stats)? Is that a typo, or another name for Wis, or am I missing something?--[[User:Ramses IV|Ramses IV]] 10:31, 16 March 2008 (MDT)

:Oops! I'm french so Wisdom in french is Sagess and IQ is QI, I usually play D&D in french so sometime I make mistake. I'm going to change that now. Thank you Ramses IV.--[[User:Lord Dhazriel|Lord Dhazriel]] 10:41, 16 March 2008 (MDT)

::Okay, I see now. You're welcome. I'm happy to help.--[[User:Ramses IV|Ramses IV]] 10:44, 16 March 2008 (MDT)

== Thrash Messages about sex ==

Yesterday i receive a thrash message from some offended fool, it was about how i treated sexuality in my articles. Is there really a problem how i treated sexuality, "All the women in yours article seem beautiful and sexy you really are perverted" ''an offended fool''. When i write about "Romantic and Sexual Behaviour" i do not describe each race favoured sex position but how they handled sexuality. If i decide to put the priestess of a '''beauty''' deity naked it my right (greek did that and we don't sent them such message). I know no one in the community wrote this message but i want to know if i really exaggerated.

See those article:
* [[The Elves (Ascyria Supplement)| my elves]] were reproached for having no aversion against nudity.
* [[Malak (DnD Race)|i was]] reproached from specifying the size of the breast of the malak (telling it was smaller than human one).
* [[Ghanadel (Ascyria Supplement)|Naked Priestess]] I was lucky he didn't see this one

Only want to know your opinion.--[[User:Lord Dhazriel|Lord Dhazriel]] 17:26, 19 March 2008 (MDT)

:I do not think you are perverted. The elf refrence seems quite the opposite, actually- you say that "Elves also have an artistic view of nudity and don't take offence nor see it with an lustful eye"- the "nor see it with an lustful eye" tells me that you do not think of nudeity in the way a pervert would. The preistess refrence is very minor- there is worse in WOTC books (see the description of Eilistraee in the forgotten realms), as is the Malak one. --[[User:Sam Kay|Sam Kay]] 11:54, 21 March 2008 (MDT)

::Worse, the book of vile darkness talk about necrophilia and many other thing. God, i was lucky that i thought the homosexuality rating was useless, he would haven sent a 10 pages insult letter. For Elistraee, i know she dance nude with a long sword (she didn't understand she need an armor to fight Lolth!). Actually this letter made my work a bit harder, im afraid of polluting my email address with junk like him. On the other side i think im going to continue the way i did, it is problem if he get offended that easily by WORDS.--[[User:Lord Dhazriel|Lord Dhazriel]] 12:21, 21 March 2008 (MDT)

:::I also do not think it so- though the breast size threw me a loop (I would delete it as uesless information if I were you). However, as Mark Twain put it "Modesty is relative", and this is a good, detailed addition to your world. It is one thing if you are drawing pictures, another ENTIRELY if you just say they are comfortable with nudity. --[[User:Palantini|Palantini]] 23:41, 18 May 2008 (MDT)

== My Best Articles so Far ==

I would like to know, what is my best articles so far?--[[User:Lord Dhazriel|Lord Dhazriel]] 09:15, 12 April 2008 (MDT)

: Link to some Articles:
:* [[Fallen Elves (DnD Race)|Fallen Elves]]
:* [[Amazon (DnD Prestige Class)|Amazon]]
:* [[Elves, Ascyria (DnD Race)|High Elves]]
:* [[Master Necromancer (DnD Prestige Class)|Master Necromancer]]
:* [[Lamp of Hundred Wishes (DnD Equipment)|Lamp of Hundred wishes]]
:* [[Dreadknight (DnD Prestige Class)|Dreadknight]] in construction
:* [[Ascyria (DnD Campaign Setting)|Others]]
:* [[Legacy of Darkness (3.5e Campaign Setting)]]
:Look at this Green Dragon, oh by the way im being harassed by a guy who call himself Bumhead (maybe because i called it Dumphead ''';)''' ) see above.--[[User:Lord Dhazriel|Lord Dhazriel]] 17:58, 16 April 2008 (MDT)

::Your being harassed? That's not good... where did this take place? --[[User:Green Dragon|Green Dragon]] 00:23, 5 May 2008 (MDT)

::: On my email, he sometime sent my insult emails.--[[User:Lord Dhazriel|Lord Dhazriel]] 06:15, 5 May 2008 (MDT)

== Best article ==

Well I'll have to go through your stuff, but you sure do like to type 'Sent' instead of 'Send', or 'Sending'.....lol, no offence though, I love checking for grammar issues!

: As you must know, im french so not as good in english than you. I try my best ( I am also poor in french too...but for some other reason) Feel free to repair any grammar issue you find! ''':)''' --[[User:Lord Dhazriel|Lord Dhazriel]] 06:05, 25 April 2008 (MDT).

:: By the way which one did you preferred.--[[User:Lord Dhazriel|Lord Dhazriel]] 06:13, 25 April 2008 (MDT)

::: well I prefer items and classes over other things, so I think my favorite would have to be the lamp, it would be even better if it had a picture in it. --[[User:Kisame93|Kisame93 | Ryan B.]] 09:55, 25 April 2008 (MDT)

::::Same-confusing but interesting- I have never understood the d%-could you please explain for me. It is such a crucial part of being DM (which I am lol)--[[User:Palantini|Palantini]] 23:44, 18 May 2008 (MDT)

== Helping ==

I was just correcting and reading through things in my spare time.. I'm more putting off learning how to do NPC's. I just try to help. ''':) ''' --[[User:Sabre070|Sabre070]] 15:51, 3 May 2008 (MDT)

==Economy==

Thanks for the help... I just would like to know exactly what they are, so I can remember them for future pages lol. [[User:Palantini|Palantini]] 20:39, 22 May 2008 (MDT)

:Can you please take a look at a new page I made, [[How Economy Affects Your Campaign (3.5e Other)]] and post what you think. [[User:Palantini|Palantini]] 20:39, 22 May 2008 (MDT)

::I updated my page and think some sections are better, others worse. Can you give your opinions please? Thanks again, [[User:Palantini|Palantini]] 18:57, 24 May 2008 (MDT)

:::You're probably ticked at me by now, but I would like you to look at yet ANOTHER page lol. [[100 Adventure Ideas (DnD Other)]]

== Not here for a Time ==

Im going to be ascent for a time, but don't worry I be back soon. Personal matter.--[[User:Lord Dhazriel|Lord Dhazriel]] 06:07, 30 May 2008 (MDT)

: Im back.--[[User:Lord Dhazriel|Lord Dhazriel]] 09:10, 7 June 2008 (MDT)

::Hope all went well, and welcome back! --[[User:Green Dragon|Green Dragon]] 21:35, 7 June 2008 (MDT)

== Anti-Vandal Barnstar ==

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== Online D&D Group ==

Assuming that the signup on your user page is open to anyone, what sort of campaign is it? Is it your Ascyria setting? Are there any splatbooks used? --[[User:Daniel Draco|Daniel Draco]] 22:35, 13 June 2008 (MDT)

: Not it another setting and yes it open for anyone with the guts, it a shattered world campaign, a mix of spellpunk and classical. here is the story a bit:

:100 years since the races of the mist developed transportation between the shards. The inner ring is growing more prospered and trade relation between the inner race began, even regular transport between the worlds was developed. Even if the outer ring remain a mystery, colonist of the main shard nation were sent to the yet unknown outer world. The flame of wars burned as hunger raised amonst the race of the mist, the Palantium empire, nation of the so-called imperial raised in power quickly and began a large scale conquest campaign. Being the only super-power in mist, few can hope to stop them, they conquered shards by shards a large part of the inner ring, thus pushing other race to the outer ring. These nation found beast to tame, resource to exploit and native to enslave... Since 10 000 years each shards prospered in isolation and peace and now that peace is broken. Pick your side...

:If you want to join, you are free to do so.--[[User:Lord Dhazriel|Lord Dhazriel]] 22:54, 13 June 2008 (MDT)

::What classes are aloud? PS. Is there some kind of charachter sheet on D&DWIKI or do we use an external site? (if so which) PPS. Are we using point buy of 4d6 take highest 3 method? PPPS. How will this work? eg. Discussion or Tavern time? --[[User:Sabre070|Sabre070]] 04:17, 14 June 2008 (MDT)

::: We use salin [http://z7.invisionfree.com/Salin/index.php?act=idx], I accept any class or any race but I must see them first and approve them. The system is not yet chosen but all races got -2 LA, so drow would have no LA. It forum and tavern (in the tavern we discuss about the action and metagame and we post our action on the forum). You will find many information on the sign up place on my user page.--[[User:Lord Dhazriel|Lord Dhazriel]] 08:55, 14 June 2008 (MDT)

::::What ECL are we starting at? --[[User:Daniel Draco|Daniel Draco]] 13:06, 14 June 2008 (MDT)

::::: 3 if you have a LA 0 race--[[User:Lord Dhazriel|Lord Dhazriel]] 13:15, 14 June 2008 (MDT)

::::::Alright, if you approve them, I want to be a [[Shæné (3.5e Race)|Shæné]] [[Wizard]] and take the [[Grafter (3.5e Prestige Class)|Grafter]] PrC later. --[[User:Daniel Draco|Daniel Draco]] 14:13, 14 June 2008 (MDT)

:::::::Hey D can you delete the last sheet I posted in the gestalt page? It's the one without the picture.-[[User:Risek|Risek]] 11:09, 6 July 2008 (MDT)

::::::::I can't you should ask Shala, still edit and blank.--[[User:Lord Dhazriel|Lord Dhazriel]] 11:16, 6 July 2008 (MDT)

== Come to tavern ==

Nuff said. --[[User:Sabre070|Sabre070]] 06:32, 17 June 2008 (MDT)

==LoD Feats allowed==

Can FB have the vow of poverty feat? --[[User:Sabre070|Sabre070]] 02:09, 27 June 2008 (MDT)

: It seem a bit strange since I doubt the thing can own anything... But why not all WotC feat are allowed (except Lichloved). As as she play it well it okay.--[[User:Lord Dhazriel|Lord Dhazriel]] 10:54, 27 June 2008 (MDT)

::Although I agree, as I hate the feat, why not Lichloved?  [[User:Hooper|''' Hooper ''']][[User talk:Hooper|  talk  ]][[Special:Contributions/Hooper|  contribs  ]][[Special:Emailuser/Hooper|  email  ]] 14:48, 2 December 2008 (MST)

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*Editing every page on D&D Wiki mostly means you can now edit the [[SRD:System Reference Document|SRD]] and the [[MSRD:Modern System Reference Document|MSRD]]. Feel free to edit them if you find inaccuracies. Also, if you want to, for lack of a better word, major in the [[SRD:System Reference Document|SRD]] (as [[User:Dmilewski|Dmilewski]] has done) or the [[MSRD:Modern System Reference Document|MSRD]] (as [[User:EldritchNumen|EldrithNumen]] has done) take a look at [[SRD Talk:System Reference Document#SRD ToDo List]] or [[MSRD Talk:Modern System Reference Document#Tasks]] to see what needs to be done within the [[SRD:System Reference Document|SRD]] or [[MSRD:Modern System Reference Document|MSRD]]. There is never enough help to get it all done, so I am sure your help would be appreciated.
*Patrolling edits should, in a nutshell, be used when you have looked over an edit and fixed everything that needs to be fixed (this includes answering questions, sending MoI's, etc). If you decide to, for a lack of better words, major in [[Special:Recentchanges|RC]] (as I have ''':)''') then marking edits as patrolled will become commonplace and extremely helpful. Below is how to "major" in recent changes, which would be a great help to D&D Wiki and I. First off load recent changes and press "Hide patrolled edits". Next click any diff and look at the change. Only if you are 100% sure that the edit is okay (taking formatting standards, page-linking (using the "what links here?" function), answering questions, sending MoI's, and line spacing between comments and/or the "Back to" footer into consideration) then mark the edit as patrolled. If the edit is not okay then all you have to do is fix the problem then mark the edit as patrolled. It's simple, but looking over every edit on D&D Wiki really keeps it looking and running well. In my opinion, it is the most vital part of D&D Wiki. Even marking only 20 edits as patrolled every day would be extremely helpful with this never-ending task.

I know this is really long-winded, so I'll keep the rest short. You have more burden on yourself now that you are an admin because users will be looking at you for editing help, knowledge of the standards, etc etc. It's a bit more work, but I really hope you enjoy being an admin and I hope you decide to stay around on D&D Wiki for a while more to come. Welcome to Adminship, again, as [[User:Dmilewski|Dmilewski]] once put it, you're now part of "The Face" of D&D Wiki. --[[User:Green Dragon|Green Dragon]] 13:37, 13 November 2008 (MST)

:Thank you, I am happy to serve the community and will do whatever I can to improve it. --[[User:Lord Dhazriel|Lord Dhazriel]] 13:43, 13 November 2008 (MST)

::You are being re-nominated for adminship. Please see [[Requests for Adminship/Lord Dhazriel2]]. --[[User:Green Dragon|Green Dragon]] 06:05, 4 January 2010 (UTC)

==Thank You Very Much==

I really appreciate the help you've given in cleaning up my wiki'ing mistakes. I swear, ONE DAY I will be able to make nice-looking tables... --[[User:Genowhirl|Genowhirl]] 12:47, 29 November 2008 (MST)

:I was only a minor mistake, it was a pleasure to help. --[[User:Lord Dhazriel|Lord Dhazriel]] 12:55, 29 November 2008 (MST)

== New EN Character ==

Since you mentioned that we can have two EN characters, I've been working on a second one. I'd ask this in chat or Salin or something, but I'm currently at school and this is the only form of communication not blocked, so...would it be okay for me to take Sulacu's [[Child, Variant (3.5e Template)|Child template]] and your [[Synthetic Soul (3.5e Template)|Synthetic Soul template]] (LA 1 version)? --[[User:Daniel Draco|Daniel Draco]] 06:25, 19 December 2008 (MST)

: Of course DD.--[[User:Lord Dhazriel|Lord Dhazriel]] 11:28, 19 December 2008 (MST)

== Half dragon ==

Hi just wanted you to know im useing your half dragon varient in a game i was hopeing you could approve me useing it frist it is your work and i dont wanna steal.

: It okay, actually i am quite proud my work is used. You don't need to ask again.--[[User:Lord Dhazriel|Lord Dhazriel]] 22:14, 12 January 2009 (MST)

== Temporary Replacement Chat ==

LD, we've been using [http://ironcity.nexxushost.com/ this chat] while the tavern has been down. We really need you to get in there, because nobody has any other way to contact you efficiently. --[[User:Daniel Draco|Daniel Draco]] 16:56, 25 January 2009 (MST)

== Thanks for watching out for malicious editors ==

Hey LD, just wanted to give you a big thanks for watching out for the malicious editors on the Tome classes and reverting them as soon as they happen. Thanks! [[User:Surgo|Surgo]] 14:53, 27 January 2009 (MST)

: Happy to help. --[[User:Lord Dhazriel|Lord Dhazriel]] 14:55, 27 January 2009 (MST)

::Yeah, IP locking them like you suggested would be grand. [[User:Surgo|Surgo]] 22:57, 27 January 2009 (MST)

::: Ok good, I be working on it now.--[[User:Lord Dhazriel|Lord Dhazriel]] 13:33, 28 January 2009 (MST)

:::: Ok I think I protected the whole lot, just send me a message if I have missed one.--[[User:Lord Dhazriel|Lord Dhazriel]] 14:07, 28 January 2009 (MST)

:hi iwould like to help choose classes for your new campaighn(homebrew).--[[User:bob cale|bob cale]] 11:01pm, 4 febuary 2009 (MST)

== Barnstar ==

{{Barnstar|Thanks for stopping an argument on [[Discussion:Does DR stack?]], and making certain people stay civil to one another. --[[User:Green Dragon|Green Dragon]] 14:24, 6 March 2009 (MST)}}

== sadness flaw ==

Didn't mean to rain on your parade or anything with the "Sadness" flaw, man, since I think it's a good one. I just thought the idea that the character has now "lost the will to live" was a little strong. After all, how much fun can it really be to play a character with no will to live whatsoever? I understand what you were going for, which is why I changed it to "your will to live has been weakened." Seems to me that you can be extremely sad or bitter without totally losing the will to live, and a character who HAS totally lost said will would be more likely to simply commit suicide and be done with it than just take a -1 to saving throws. I thought the description was a little unclear, and that it suggested that a character with this flaw doesn't want to live at all, when it might have been better to suggest that the character cares less about living than others, has a minor death wish, doesn't fight against death as hard as some other might, etc., which I thought was more in the spirit of the flaw's concept. As for the other things, I was just correcting some errant grammar, a process which I had understood was encouraged on this wiki.

: The flavor text can be ignored actually, flavor is mutable after all. If your character want to take the flaw, he isn't necessary a death seeker. The text is just here for flavor, feel free to ignore it for your character as you wish. --[[User:Lord Dhazriel|Lord Dhazriel]] 23:45, 1 April 2009 (MDT)

== AdminBadge ==

I'd like to label you as an admin with the <s><nowiki>[[Template:AdminBadge]]</nowiki></s> on your user page. If you have a reason you don't think you should have the badge or you don't think the badge is a good idea, please discuss it on the badge's [[Template talk:AdminBadge|discussion]]. -[[User:Valentine the Rogue|Valentine the Rogue]] 16:06, 11 April 2009 (MDT)

==How?==

Can you justify Extremely retarded as a viable reason to delete something? That is a terrible show of administrator power. The EE I would have happily allowed you delete because personally i was planning on it, but the Skunkgirl in no way deserved to be deleted after i worked hard to make it a playable race, and was going to start making it a serious race. This is bull, I don't expect or need an answer. -[[User:SteelOrochu|Steel]]

: The one who put candidate for deletion was [[User:Surgo|Surgo]] I deleted the Skunkgirl because it was in the candidate ore deletion for a time and thus required deletion. Take this on his page, not mine. --[[User:Lord Dhazriel|Lord Dhazriel]] 11:12, 24 April 2009 (MDT)

::I can't even find the page I put "extremely retarded" on, but I know I did on something -- and you're right, that's a pretty unclear reason. I'll go change it as soon as I know the page. If you're planning on making the Skunkgirl an actual serious race, ''go do it'' and it can lose its candidate for deletion status. Also, why is this on LD's talk page and not mine? [[User:Surgo|Surgo]] 11:20, 24 April 2009 (MDT)

:::Okay, I just looked through the delete log. The exact reason was: "Extremely retarded. No one who sees this will ever take the wiki seriously." which is quite different from "Extremely retarded". I stand by my reasoning, those articles were entirely horrible and a blight on the wiki. "Adult content" my ass, those were nonsensical, badly researched content with nonsensical effects that looked like they were generated by someone who was 13. [[User:Surgo|Surgo]] 11:26, 24 April 2009 (MDT)

:::: Hum... perhaps this discussion should be moved. I don't want to have a discussion about pages I deleted a while ago on my talk. --[[User:Lord Dhazriel|Lord Dhazriel]] 20:34, 24 April 2009 (MDT)

:::::Oh, so while it was known I was no where near the wiki to see my content was marked, you decided to just 'do it'. Without giving me time to save it for my own personal use? I refuse to believe that you couldn't have said 'hey, if anyone see's Steel to tell him his stuffs getting deleted soon' but thats ok, you can delete all my content because this is a bullshit method and I'm not interested in participating with this sites contributions. Have a nice day. Sorry for using your talk page. [[User:SteelOrochu|Steel]]

::::::What? Who knew that? I sure didn't know that. I don't think LD knew that either. [[User:Surgo|Surgo]] 13:18, 25 April 2009 (MDT)

== Liberty Prime is online ==

Wow, it's cool to meet another fan of LP. I liked him so much, I even made a DnD scale mini of him (43ft tall, or so, and here it is: [http://s584.photobucket.com/albums/ss286/The_Holy_Spartan/?action=view&current=0627090004.jpg]).
Anyway, since you're such a big fan of Fallout, I was curious if a gaming expert like yourself would be interested in making stats for him. I was hoping to have a cross-over campaign with my players visiting the Fallout universe (trust me, we've done wierder stuff), and decided the trip wouldn't be complete without LP. However, I'm afraid my rabid fanboyism would blind me to making him OP. If you have any suggestions, tell me. Also, if there is a PMing system, you could also use that. I'm rather new to using wikis. Thanks.-[[User:The Holy Spartan|Satim]] 01:41, 28 June 2009 (MDT)

: Hahaha cool, I see what I can do. I am rather incompetent with monster stat block however. Let see what I can do. --[[User:Lord Dhazriel|Lord Dhazriel]] 11:20, 28 June 2009 (MDT)

::You're a fan of Fallout too? Stellar. -- [[User:Mythos Specialist|Mythos]] 13:45, 30 June 2009 (MDT)

== Questions for the Admins ==

Don't have a better place to ask, so thought I'd ask this here; how long should one wait for a response before changing something that appears erroneous after placing a post on the talk page? Furthermore, if the OP reverts without discussing, and refuses to post on the talk page, what should one do? [[User:Ghostwheel|Ghostwheel]] 08:03, 5 July 2009 (MDT)

== Dark-Light Vindicator ==

I created a prestige class, Dark-Light Vindicator, but it wont appear in the Prestige Class chart. Could you move it there or tell me what to do to be able to add it there? Thanks! [[User:Appoloin2009|Appoloin]]

: Done, you removed the categories at the bottom of the page. I just added the basic ones so it could be shown in the pretige class chart. You shaould add other categories by yourself (by example <nowiki>[[Category:Strong Spellcaster]]</nowiki>). --[[User:Lord Dhazriel|Lord Dhazriel]] 15:06, 17 July 2009 (MDT)

== Protect ==

Thanks for adding the protection template to one of my classes. I was wondering if you knew how to add the Protection for IP's template. The current template makes all editing impossible. I was hoping for only users to be able to make edits. I recently turned that class over to the community for further improvements. If you could, that would be awesome. Thanks for reading! Peace. --[[User:Jay Freedman|Jay Freedman]] 15:31, 14 September 2009 (MDT)

== Half Dragon Variant Problems ==

The Half-Dragon Variant page went through some seemingly radical and abrupt changes at the hands of a few IPs, it seems. I've tried to salvage the original article while including some flavor from their edits that was actually rather useful. Please give it the once over at your next opportunity to follow up on it. [[User:Jwguy|Jwguy]] 04:08, 30 October 2009 (MDT)

== Finished Core Class ==

Hi there, Dhazriel, Mythos here, under a new name (it's a long story), anyway, I finished a core class, and I know you're good with your analyses, and would be honored if you'd look it over and tell me what you think, it's the [[Battlemage (3.5e Class)|Battlemage]] core class. -- [[User:Danzig Nyttafjell|Danzig]] 08:39, 19 January 2010 (UTC)

Equinox Mountain Kingdoms (3.5e Campaign Setting)

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= Equinox Mountain Kingdoms =



Equinox Mountain Kingdoms is a Campaign designed crudely, with no experience, on a Wiki that allows amateurs among its ranks. If you like one element without another, just take it out. Have fun with it and feel free to edit anything you like.

==Introduction==

The Equinox region is a mere continent on one planet of one plane in the planescape, but somehow has grasped a cosmic significance. The era draws near when the world will be plunged into war, turmoil and despair, and Equinox is where it will start-unless you stop it.

==Races & Classes==

The Base races are essentially identical to the standard races. Classes have no changes, although house rules are encouraged.

Some template creatures such as the vortexians and cartoons exist. Vortexians are those who enter the central Vortex of mount Equinox.

Eberron Races are also present in Equinox, except for the Kalashtar (no psionics in this setting.) The Shifters live in a Hunter-Gatherer/agricultural society, while the Warforgde are subscribers to an industrial age and the changelings the information age.

The Elves and Dwarves are considered to embody Chaos and Law, while humans are the spawn of dwarf-elf relationships. Other Races are considered the results of genetic experimentation concocted by evil dragons, but are primarily derived from human DNA and are thus not evil. Dwarves cannot be chaotic and elves cannot be lawful, but otherwise everything goes.

Magical Classes are altered according to the Religion section.

=== Vortexions ===

At the core of Mount Equinox lies The Vortex, a Maelstrom of Lawful and Chaotic energy which dematerializes any creature that enters it. Although most inhabitants are destroyed by the Vortex, the creatures that survive emerge enormously powerful. They are called Vortexions.

A Vortexion may, within 10 rounds, dematerialize and reform themselves as different beings. They become any creature of half their original ECL, and their original items are consumed as well, being replaced by objects equal in worth to half the original gp. (''original'' values apply to the first time they used this power) The vortexions may also reform their alignment, and are typically extreme in their alignments. They change alignments often, and only the Good and Evil (or Lawful and Chaotic) characters feel strongly enough about their alignent not to change it.

Needless to say, PCs cannot be Vortexions. this group is primarily for BBEGs. The most notable is the Duke of Pearl, who accelerates his transformation with the use of his soul-binded enemies. (He uses his knowledge of their abilities to help him copy them. They are kept in a string of pearls in his possesion, thus his nickname.

==Iconomasters==

Found in DnD Other, these are the most powerful NPCs in the universe. Often they represent an assortment of various powers that cannot be represented by sheer class, and make use of various oddities. The Class Iconomasters rule the 12 continents on the planet, and often can be found in various wars. Other iconomasters in positions of power may be moer secretive, controling entire planes. A list of major Iconomasters can be found under [[Iconomaster (DnD Other)]]

==Geography==

The Equinox region is centered around Mount Equinox  a giant mountain forged by the damage of an [[Epic Living Spell]]. The region was transformed into a giant volcano, but was then flash-frozen as it erupted. Thus, polar opposites of Fire and Ice decorate the land. The Northern land (and peak of Equinox) is extremely cold land, under the command of Tundra-dwelling blue dragons. The hot south and volcanic depths of the mountain are haunted by the red Dragons. However, these are at totally opposite ends of the island, and along an equator band, civilization thrives. The heat below the ice caps melts some of the snow, creating the Babblybrook River. The river cools some of the Magma, forming large caverns of Igneous rock. And from East to West along the Island is a Lush green region where most of the Fertile Band goes: the region that serves as home to the civilizations of the Equinox region.

==Alignment and Religion==

Religion is standard for this setting, with the exception of a small monotheistic order similar to Christianity. Although unpopular in Golduria, the Cleric calling himself Percival follows this religion, and the Deity it follows is certainly good. Sumism, the worship of the deity Egosum, only has 0.5% of the world's population.

Although creatures may vary from their given alignment like in Eberron, The forces of Good and Evil are still undeniably present within the world. LE creatures often reside in the frozen North, while the hot southern region is populated by CE monstrosities.

A common theme for alignment is that Good and Evil precede Law and Chaos. The other great theme is that no one stays Neutral Forever.

Although Devourers may seem to consume the soul of their subjects, the soul is never actually destroyed.  Ultimately, we are never given final rest until we decide to be good or evil. All druids, slaadi, and Formians must eventually give out.

Also, Demons and Devils are fallen angels.

As this is the philosophy of the founding DM, you may decide not to adopt these ideas. However, Equinox was partially designed as a Campaign for players who wanted these ideas in their Campaign.

===Specfics: Class Changes of Religion===

This new semi-Christian religion is known as Sumism, the worship of the god Egosum. It's semi-Christian theme makes it hard to play normal DnD characters who are sumists, since some classes (particularly divine ones) are designed to follow different, corrupted spiritual paths. Thus, the Classes are altered slightly in the explanation of how they work.

====Barbarians====

The Barbarian can continue to be savage, but must also follow the ethical code set out for it, usually dependant on their conscience, and as much of Sumist law as they know (not much). They are of a foreign tradition to Sumism, and the Sumist barbarians that exist usually have been visited by missionaries.

====Bards====

The bards are exactly the same. Egosum has nothing against beautiful music. Why should he? He invented it.

====Clerics====

Naturally, Clerics are the most heavily altered class under this system. Although they follow their God as the pagan clerics follow theirs, they do so not out of any desire for power like the others. They accept that sometimes Egosum will not grant their prayers, and approach him not as a tool but as a master. For domains, Egosum has none, allowing Clerics to choose at will from the list. (Though they may not choose Death or any evil domains like that. Egosum may be broad, but he is also purely good.)

====Druids====

They also recieve an overhaul, similar to that of clerics. Since druids must worship nature or nature deities, it is impossible for normal druids to be Sumist. However, Sumist characters have a class available called the Steward with exactly the same class features as the druid. The stewards do not worship nature, but recognize they have a duty to Egosum to protect his creation. They too base their spells on wisdom, for their control over the natural world around them comes from a strong inner peace.

====Fighters====

Pretty much the same.

====Monks====

Although the tradition of the ascetic has existed a long time outside Sumism, it too has been integrated in. Often their discipline is motivated by the need for redemption and purity in the monk, and thus their asceticism is motivated by humility. Although Lawful alignments are still typical, one out of hundreds may be neutral good. This works particularly well for those who multiclass as stewards.

====Paladins====

Paladins convert to Sumism far easier than any other class, and Sumist adventuring parties often come to exist when the paladin evangelizes them. Paladins may not used forced conversion, nor may they persecute good non-Smuists, although the temptation is often over-powering. Instead, they rely on typical forms of casual persuasion to bring people to the faith.

====Rangers====

No problem here.

====Rogues====

Since traditional Sumist law has a ban on stealing, rogues are an unlikely addition to the religion. Often, though, more skilled ones find themselves still useful to adventuring parties even if they can't steal stuff.

====Sorcerors====

Sorceror power comes from within, like superpowers. They do not tap into mystical forces, and often form fierce rivalries with the pagan sorcerors who do. Egosum forbids the use of mystical forces, as often they come from dark and evil sources.

====Wizards====

Having no powers of their own, they are drawn into the use of mysticism more easily than sorcerors. To stay consistant with their sumist belief, they often take the Gandalf approach, or use sources of magical energy which they are already familiar with. An example would be the matrix embedded at the Earth's core.

===False Religions and False Gods===

Although these are not true gods (there is only one real one) they are tremendously powerful mortals with divine powers who have been brought into powerful positions by fiends. The religions of the world are combinations of worship of good outsiders (which the good outsiders reject but fiends encourage, answering prayers in place of celestials) fiends, or 3 powerful mortals: Pun-Pun, Cassia, and Mammon.

Pun-Pun is the NE false god of power. He was the secret member of the other two cultists, and is the deity of those who prefer strength to goodness or development (like munchkins). He has been toppled by Lord Gary of Gygax, but seeks ever to return. With a League of Dark Optimizers, his ex-familiar the tarrasque, and his servants the dalkyr at his command, he will stop at nothing to conquer and demolish all of creation. He corresponds to the devil. (not Satan, per se, but in the sense of one of mankind's 3 great temptations).

Cassia (CE) is exactly as her entry on the Wiki shows, except that she was briefly a disciple of Pun-Pun. She represents the flesh.

Mammon is the LE dwarf god of corrupted authority. He was a follower of Pun-Pun and briefly Cassia's opposite and partner in the Yin-Yan war. The ruler of society, money, conformity, bureacracy, and other Lawful evils, he treats individual worshippers as cogs in a constantly growing machine of power. His worshippers are usually evil bureaucrats. He corresponds to the world.

==Cool Areas==

Mount Equinox itself is the greatest landmark on the Continent. It is a swirling swath of fire and ice. Half of the mountain is covered in Glacier, while the other is a firey, magma-filled volcano. At the core lies the most mysterious location in the world: The Vortex. An endless swirl of positive energy and negative energy forming a tight tornado, the vortex flows like a whirlpool into its sphere of annihilation center. Every villian on the planet has tried to harness this energy at one point, but to no avail. The most enormous and succesful attempt produced a polar flash of hot and cold, forming the ground around into Mount Equinox. Some foolish people have tried to enter the vortex, only to be destroyed in the next second. The few survivors of this became vortexians or half-vortexians. It's radius is approximately 100 miles, and it can be seen from anywhere on the continent.

The continent is shaped roughly like a diamond (parallelogram) with the mountain in the center. It is approximately 2000 miles wide and 1500 miles up and down. At the two "points" of the parellelogram are Silvaria and Golduria, while Raneheim is built on Mount Equinox itself.

The area between Silvaria and Golduria, about 2000 miles wide and 1000 miles across, is known as the fertile band. Several rivers run off of Mount Equinox into this large area, bringing the same agricultural benefits that the Nile River brings to Egypt. It is thought that these rivers consist of melted ice, a common commodity on a mountain as polarized as Equinox.

The areas to the North and South of the fertile band are known respectively as the fire and ice zones. Most creatures in the fire zone are CE, while LE monsters are based in the north zone (including a variant ice breathing blue dragon). They frequently invade the Fertile band from both ends, trying to expand their territories into new areas to conquer. The southernmost tip of the fire zone (and therefore the continent) is the cape of Trogdor. Although Trogdor has long been defeated, Lord Ludicrous has made it his base in an effort to establish his (weak) rule over all CE creatures. The Northernmost tip is the Grey Hall, a palace supposedly carved from a gigantic icicle. The villianous General Grey lives there.

Other continents are unknown to the typical Equinox dweller, but can usually be infered from the nature of their iconomaster rulers. If a druid rules a continent, you can assume it will be covered in forest.

==History==

Although this is skeletal and the wording is awkward, it may serve to aid the DM in establishing the ground rules. It also establishes the answers to some never-answered questions like:

:Why are some races usually evil?
:How come spiritual outsiders seem to have physical bodies?
:What is magic made of?
:How did Cassia, Pun-Pun and Mammon come to be worshipped?
:What created Equinox?
:Who is this "trogdor" guy anyway?

You may not care about these questions at all, but if you do, here they are waiting to be answered.

=== Timeline ===

:0-the world and outsiders are created

:1-the first fall, fiends form.

:30- dragons created, evolve from dominant erptilian species. Instantly master form of technology known to them as '''machina'''. After designing a '''machina''' powered civilization, including a machina hard drive at the planet's core,

:40-2nd fall, in which the above sentence is finished and the dragons collapse into evil. Evil dragons tattoo themselves chromatic colors, and use complex machina powered constructs to provide physical forms for the evil outsiders. Although less than their normal spiritual existance, these forms are powerful enough to conquer the central machina hard drive and establish a factory around it as the earth's core.

:50-1st war. Good Dragons, realizing that it is an abomination to create constructs for the outsiders, cannot bring celestials of their own. When hope is nearly lost, celestials manifest of their own power. The war creates a stable zone in which fiends are barred from outright conquering world. Dragons, however, do to loss of their central machina hardrive, fall into chaos and nearly become extinct. Minor Machina drives implanted in the Earth's crust form a weaker machina matrix than previously existed. As civilization progresses, wizard's find way to access known machina drives and sorcerors find that some of the power has imprinted itse;f into their bloodstreams. Machina is later retermed '''magic'''.

:60-Dragons nearly extinct. Retreat into hiding.

:100-Elves and Dwarves emerge. Found urban and wilderness societies. The Dragons teach them rudmentary machina, and guide them to form strongest creatures on the planet.

:150-Humans emerge from a crossbreeding of elves and dwarves. Evil Dragons exploit the genetic oddities of humans to clone tiny dragonmen. The Kobold Race forms.

:200-Pun-Pun rises to power. By expermienting on his own DNA, creates the Dalkyr, Tarrasque, and Land of Nonsense. As Cult of Pun-Pun is founded, the human Lord Gary of Gygax uses an ancient machina weapon to chemically imbalance Pun-Pun's already unstable DNA. As fiends and dragons try to kill him for his great weapon, he flees into alternate plane where machina does not exist, and he cannot be detected.

:300-Pun-Pun's dalkyr worshippers create Xoriat, and found Cult of Pun-Pun on Earth. Kobolds end expermientation on themselves, but not before forming the goblinoids. Goblinoids later form orcs, halflings, and gnomes.

:Yin-Yan war. Dwarves abandon true god to worship Mammon, While Elves begin to worship Cassia. As Law and Chaos become pawns in the servitude of evil, the human and gnome missionaries attempt to return them to true faith.

:360-Great decimation. Last good Dwarves and Elves unite, using their respective strengths and powers of Law and Chaos to destroy High priest of Pun-Pun. As cults of Cassia and Mammon Crumble, the two races finally return to the good side. The Law/Chaos vortex they generate, forms Mount Equinox, and eventually the continent of Equinox.

:500-Great temptation. Draconic Demilich Trogdor turns the kobolds, orcs, and goblinoids to evil.

:600-Vortexion Rise. The Duke of Pearl uses his new powers to found the Dark Optimizers, an offshoot of the cult of Pun-Pun. He tries to indoctrinate every adventurer in the world, but is stopped by the great Dashing Swordsman Ilghiehera Ligriv. He later bonds with Trogdor to start the Trogdor War, temporarily becoming a hybrid Dragon-Man who incinerates all continents except Equinox before they destroy him.

:700-The overuse of the vortex starts the great collision, as the plane of Eberron crashes into the plane of Equinox, causing new continents and races to instantly appear in the middle of the ocean. Trade opens immediately, and the races spread throughout the world.

:1000-The Age of Iconomasters begins and the Iconomasters divide the world into different nations and economic regions for them to rule. 12th fighter iconomaster leaves to form his own crime syndicate.

Present Age.

After the destruction wrought which forged Equinox, the Gold and Silver dragons established a pact with Humanity by building the cities of Golduria and Silvaria for the colonists coming to the continent, in exchange for obedience to the Silverian and Goldurian Laws. The ''Pax Dracona'' lasted for 7 centuries, during which dwarven explorers founded Raneheim in the caverns around Equinox itself. In addition, the Drusicilian forest grew between Equinox and Raneheim. By now, however, the Southern inhabitants of Equinox live in a land ravaged by Barbarism, and themselves become propagators of it. Meanwhile, the Court of Needles has appeared in Silvaria. A deadly assassin's guild, they establish smuggling through the Silvarian port and through the Drusicilian Forest. The sudden emergence of new warlords in the North crushed the hopes and dreams of millions, turning them into the slaves in a new heartless Empire. Today, the land has been carved up into these various good, evil, and still to be determined factions.

===Nations===

The regions of the land in between the city-states are generally untamed wilderness, but some outposts and loose government does exist in the wild.

====Drucilia====

The largest of these is the Drucilian forest, the most populated region in all of Equinox. A giant forest, it houses not only beings such as elves, halflings and raptorans, but also forest gnomes, humans, and even a few fey villages. Originally created after the primal eruption which forged the island, The fey were the first beings to inhabit it. Although it was under their domain for the first few thousand years of its existence, the conflict with the green dragons invading destroyed their Empire and the were forced to rely on humanoid allies to repel the threat. Thus, the first pioneers began. Among them were a group of forest gnomes, the descendants of whom would one day forge an alliance with the cleric Percival to overthrow the green dragon Empire. About 100 years before the current time, the Utopian forest kingdom was destroyed after the druidic order in the forest was corrupted by Humphrey Lintymann. They welcomed the green dragons back into the forest, convinced that they were required by nature to destroy the Utopian environment. Taking neutrality to the extremes to this very day, they attempt to act as evilly as possible to balance out the goodness of its inhabitants. After the green dragons were fully instated however, they were not willing to reverse the principle to aid the side of good. Humphrey Lintymann was one of the founders of The Court of Needles. To this very day, the forest is a major smuggling network for the court. Yet some good exists in the forest. See the NPC section (currently under construction)

====Golduria====

An Ancient City of Lawful Good People.

Specifically, Golduria was the capital of the Ancient Goldurian Empire. It once ruled the entire continent of Golduria, and was destroyed by the terrible War of [[Trogdor (DnD NPC)|Trogdor]]. The city was founded by the gold dragon [[Guardian (DnD NPC)|Guardian]] when he was a young wyrmling, as a refugee from the Gold dragon poachers attacking from the bluebobble sea. He came to care for a community of peasants there, as they came to him for protection. After years, as new generations grew there, he faded into the twilight, interfering less directly in Goldurian politics. Eventually, by the time he was mature, the city had become a small kingdom under King Boris the Bumbler.

At this point in time, Guardian began instructing promising Goldurians in the ways of paladinhood. This proved useful, for it was at this point that the first skirmishes of Trogdor occured as the malevolent dragon unleashed a legion of his hobgoblin fighters on the East. As they pilaged and burned the land, Guardian's paladins swept into battle. Eventually, they unravelled his army by defeating the most Charismatic leaders. The Chaotic hordes soon disbanded, and the Paladin Emperors replaced the Kings of older Golduria. The greatest paladin in the land would become the Emperor at the death of the previous one. With Golduria the world's first Lawful Good nation, they naturally became very powerful as more and more smaller countries joined for protection. Eventually, the Goldurian Empire covered Half of the continent of Equinox, stretching from Golduria in the East to Raneheim in the West. Then, of course, the War of Trogdor nearly destroyed them. Today, Golduria has been reduced to its original capital city, but is still ruled by the strongest paladin in the land. In this case, the Paladin Iconomaster.

====Silvaria====

Guardian's Silver Dragon cousin later established a city of his own, placing it on top of a semifrozen crystaline lake called Babble Bay. Using trade with other continents, Silvaria becomes a global economic powerhouse. Its powerful navy and artistic charm keeps rogue nations from attacking it. Due to close location to the Drucicilian forest, it becomes heavily inhabitde by elves, and is widely known as the city of beauty. Most inhabitants are CG, including the original Silver Dragon, living secretly in a giant ice bubble in the bay beneith Silvaria. The Silvarian Dragons, essentially CG Silver ones, shortly hold rule, until they migrate to pursue artistic endeavors and the city is left in the hands of the most brilliant artist. In structure it is similar to Venice.

====Raneheim====

Raneheim was influenced partially by bronze dragons, but also by the cult of mammon in its rise. Thus, the Dwarven metropolis spends less time policing the world and moer time making money as mercenaries. Located at the base of Mount Equinox, they are in an ideal position for this.

==Organizations/Villians==

Many corrupt groups dot the landscape. The generic villains sometimes work together, each with those who resemble him on the Law/Chaos axis, but few actually plan for anyone to profit but themselves. Here are the lists of baddies.
*The Grey Lords: Led by the Gruesome General Grey, these villains systematically decimate lands, forests, lives...all to attain the goal of Dominian over the Earth. Some of their plots have included Dominating the Tarrasque, Gaining possession of time-travel devices, and corrupting those under their influence through Programmed Amnesia spells (see the Spell Compendium). All the Grey Lords are Lawful Evil.
**[[General Grey (DnD NPC)]], the leader of the Grey Lords, is a fallen Paladin. However, he posseses one trait no other Paladin has: Lawyer Power. After a shock wave of negative energy stripped him of his powerful paladin levels, he turned evil and became a Blackguard. However, he also became a Lawyer (Politico Character Optimization). He currently has a great deal of administrative power. Extremely lawful, he enjoys using his job as a person of prominence in Golduria to exploit people throughout Equinox. He currently has alliances with thousands of mind-flayers, vampires, devils... and is the leader of the Grey Lords. For some reason, his mind is extremely good at plotting, and he has generated thousands of evil schemes for his henchmen. This includes Dominating the Tarrasque, becoming Emperor, assassinating the High priests of rival religions, and bringing about the formation of a second mind flayer Empire. Still, throughout his corruption, he still perceives himself as the epitome of good. Everyone else is evil. His greatest vice-an incredible ego. weak by himself, but invincible in a social setting.
**Purple Swan, a top Monk, frequently clashes with Gadgety Gilbert. She uses only an amulet of Mighty fists, and assorted miscellaneous wondrous items. However, things have changed of late. While assassinating a wealthy gnome to help Grey attain an artifact in his possession, she fell into a trap and contracted a horrible disease. At the time of the Campaign, she is forced to use Gadgety's aid to survive, transplanting her consciousness into a Warforged body. Naturally she is upset with her loss of independence on items and Machinery, but there is a consolation: Grey has hired a group of artificers to build an adamantine clockwork horror into her new body.
**Macro-Tigey, a Rakshasa lich, works as the sorcerer for the Grey Lords. As yet, however, his only real role in the group is that of ambassador to the Nine Hells. He often aids Gadgety Gilbert.
**Gadgety Gilbert, the team artificer, spends his time designing clever devices for use in the complicated schemes of General Grey or Slitheria. He often has some role in just about every plot the grey Lords have, and is currently trying to turn Purple Swan into the Ultimate Weapon.
*The Court of Needles: A Silvarian thieves' guild. NE. founded by Hans Ombvil, but 2nd oldest member is Humphrey Lintymann.
**Hans Ombvil, a villainous Fighter (Evil fighter, not actually Villainous Fighter Class) is the founder and head of Venomia. Wielder of the Sword of Kas (Dm guide) he also has proficiency with several exotic weapons developed by Venomia alone, or mundane weaponry from planes that have no magic but futuristic technology. (He has Proficiency with all Futuristic Weapons, in addition to other stuff.) Powerful, Cruel, and never smiling, he is currently heading a Court project to break into the Ranehiem National Vault, stealing all the lesser orbs. Few know his mysterious background, and he enjoys a certain amount of anonymity. Corrupted through a Programmed Amnesia Spell, he first came under the influence of evil when he obtained the Sword of Kas. He is the forgotten iconomaster.
**The Armpit of Vecna used to work for the king of Silvaria, but turned away to serve Ombvil and turn his great magical skill to evil. You don't wanna mess with this guy. He's a gray elf, and is highly bigoted towards all non-elves, even half elves. His horrible bullying may be the very thing that drove The Hunter of Races insane.
**Humphrey Lintymann is the most powerful druid on the continent of Equinox. He runs a large smuggling operation in the Drucilian forest, and has corrupted the druid order there. The Court currently has him involved in a plot to obtain the Green Orb of Dragonkind. He has a large number of corrupt druids working for him, and is widely believed to be the head of the Court.
**The Unseen is a 15-year old halfling rogue who has already killed half of the Court's Enemies worldwide. The bodyguard of Ombvil, she is the most anonymous character of all. And to date, she is still one of the most vile.
*The Blood Squad are just a bunch of Chaotic Evil Serial Killers who work together only in the loosest possible sense of the word. However, they can be considered allies. Although they cannot come up with any evil plots of their own, Ludicrous has been known to Hijack the Evil Plots of others, and often comes up with sinister gimmicks on the spot.
**Lord Ludicrous is a psycho bard with a penchant for Otto's Irresistible dance. His favorite type of performance is rap music. He also carries a large clock around his neck which he has stolen from the Duke of Pearl. Last seen trying to unleash [[Trogdor (DnD NPC)|Trogdor]], a draconic demilich, he has since moved on to taking advantage of the Duke of Pearl's plan. He enjoys using mind control to send people into self-destructive frenzies, and makes frequent use of Song of Discord. He once used a Rulership Artifact to level a Dwarven City to the ground by forcing the city militia to butcher the civilians.
**Mr. R, a half-orc barbarian, has spent a good deal of his life smashing everything that makes him upset. Ludicrous has currently entrusted him with a powerful ruler ship artifact, and has set him on a Campaign of terror to south Equinox. The goal: unleash Annihilatrix.
**A serial killer, ranger, and avenging executioner, the Hunter of Races is best known for his variety. A half-elf, he has made it his hobby to kill as many sentient beings as possible- and often makes taxidermy from any particularly fierce victims. His favorite is the head of a halfling paladin that he keeps mounted on his wall. He attended the same private school as the Armpit of Vecna, whose constant bullying gave him a powerful hatred of purebred elves. Last seen convincing a group of aboleths to attack Silvaria, he remains a seriously nasty dude.
*The Duke of Pearl is the most mysterious villain of all. Rumored to have several evil templates (mind-flayer lich vampire half-fiend) he is of an indiscernible alignment. The only things known about him is that he likes to collect his victims' souls in pearls...that he somehow absorbs the power of each person he entraps...that he is an even better schemer than Gray...that he has many allies...and that he owns a portrait of himself that he has never allowed anyone else to see. Perhaps it is his phylactery.

== Planes ==

[[Land of Nonsense (3.5e Environment)|Land of Nonsense]]

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Jabberwock (3.5e Creature)

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{{Stat Block 2
|name=Jabberwock |cr=7
|al=Usually [[CN]] |size=[[Large]] |type=[[Magical Beast]]
|init=+2 |listen=+8 |spot=+9 |sens=[[darkvision]] 60 ft., [[low-light vision]], [[scent]]
|aura=burble, [[gaze]], whiffle
|ac=17 |touch=11 |flat=15 |acmods=−1 size, +2 Dex, +6 natural
|hp=60 |hd=8 |othhp=[[DR]] 10/magic, [[DR]] 10/slashing
|fort=+8 |ref=+8 |will=+3
|weak=vorpal vulnerability
|spd=20 ft. (4 squares) |fly=60 ft. (average) |othspd=[[Flyby Attack]]
|melee1=2 [[claw]]s +12 (1d6+4) and [[bite]] +6 (1d10+2)
|atkop=[[improved grab]]
|sa=[[gaze]]
|bab=+8 |grp=+16
|space=10 ft. |reach=5 ft. (10 ft. with [[bite]])
|str=18 |dex=15 |con=14 |int=3 |wis=12 |cha=17
|feats=[[Alertness]], [[Flyby Attack]], [[Track]]B, [[Weapon Focus]] ([[claw]])
|skills=[[Listen]] +8, [[Spot]] +9
|hdadv=9–11 ([[Large]]); 12–15 ([[Huge]])
|san1=Burble ([[Su]]) |sad1=A jabberwock continuously emits a low-pitched noise of inane babble that causes creatures with in 60 feet that are able to hear to be ''[[confused]]'' as if under the effects of a ''[[confusion]]'' spell (caster level equal to racial HD, DC 17 [[Will]] negates). This is a [[sonic]] [[mind-affecting]] [[compulsion]] effect. A creature that successfully saves cannot be affected again by the same jabberwock’s song for 24 hours. The save DC is [[Charisma]]-based.
|san2=[[Gaze]] ([[Su]]) |sad2=("Eyes of flame") Causes creatures to be [[blinded]], duration 2d6 rounds, [[Will]] DC 17 negates. The save DC is [[Charisma]]-based. This is a [[mind-affecting]] effect.
|san3=[[Improved Grab]] ([[Ex]]) |sad3=("Claws that catch!") To use this ability, a jabberwock must hit with a [[claw]] attack. It can then attempt to start a [[grapple]] as a [[free action]] without provoking an [[attack of opportunity]].
|san4=Whiffle ([[Ex]]) |sad4=As a jabberwock flies, its wings generate [[strong wind]]s within a 30-foot radius of itself.
|san5=Vorpal Vulnerability ([[Ex]]) |sad5=Jabberwocks have one weakness: extra long necks. This makes [[vorpal]] swords decapitate them on natural 18s and 19s, as well as 20s. Decapitation by a vorpal weapon is usually accompanied by a "snicker-snack!"
}}

=== Strategies and Tactics ===

Jabberwocks enjoy intimidating foes with their stunning appearance, or confusing them. Reality bends oddly around the jabberwock, which may explain why other odd creatures such as bandersnatches are often seen around them.

=== Sample Encounters ===

''EL 7:'' As you approach a tumtum tree, a jabberwock, with eyes of flame, comes whiffling through the tulgey wood, burbling as it comes!

=== Ecology ===

'''Environment:''' Woods near portals to the chaotic planes breed jabberwocks easily. The magically tweaked nature of such forests makes them feel rather tulgey to those who pass through them.

'''Typical Physical Characteristics:''' A jabberwock looks either intimidating or ridiculous to PCs, depending on how brave they are. Certainly absurd, they can be seen in the picture above. These odd quirks of their anatomy do nothing for them, save improve grab and a weakness to [[vorpal]] weaponry.

'''Alignment:''' Jabberwocks are completely insane, and horribly frumious. They will not hesitate to kill everything they see. Few things inspire fear like a jabberwock. However, they are destructive out of habit, not evil intent, and are usually Chaotic Neutral.

=== Jabberwock Lore ===

Characters who have ranks in [[SRD:Knowledge Skill|Knowledge]] (arcana) can learn more about Jabberwocks. When a character makes a successful check, the following lore is revealed, including the information from lower DCs.

{| class="d20" {{#vardefine: odd | 0}}
|+ [[SRD:Knowledge Skill|Knowledge]] (Arcana)
! DC || class="left" | Result
|- class="{{Odd-Even|{{#var:odd}}}}"
| 17 || class="left" | This creature is a jabberwock.
|- class="{{Odd-Even|{{#var:odd}}}}"
| 20 || class="left" | Jabberwocks have jaws that bite and the claws that catch.
|- class="{{Odd-Even|{{#var:odd}}}}"
| 22 || class="left" | A jabberwock's burble can drive even the strongest of men insane.
|- class="{{Odd-Even|{{#var:odd}}}}"
| 25 || class="left" | A jabberwock's eyes of flame burn so bright they can be blinding.
|- class="{{Odd-Even|{{#var:odd}}}}"
| 27 || class="left" | Jabberwocks have a vulnerability to vorpal weapons.
|- class="{{Odd-Even|{{#var:odd}}}}"
| 30 || class="left" | See the [[#For Player Characters|For Player Characters]] section below.
|}

==== Jabberwocky ====



{| cellspacing="0" class="column" style="white-space: nowrap;"
|
’Twas brillig, and the slithy toves 
        Did gyre and gimble in the wabe: 
All mimsy were the borogoves, 
        And the mome raths outgrabe.

“Beware the Jabberwock, my son! 
        The jaws that bite, the claws that catch! 
Beware the Jubjub bird, and shun 
        The frumious Bandersnatch!”

He took his [[vorpal]] sword in hand: 
        Long time the manxome foe he sought— 
So rested he by the Tumtum tree, 
        And stood awhile in thought.

And, as in uffish thought he stood, 
        The Jabberwock, with eyes of flame, 
Came whiffling through the tulgey wood, 
        And burbled as it came!

One, two! One, two! And through and through 
        The [[vorpal]] blade went snicker-snack! 
He left it dead, and with its head 
        He went galumphing back.

“And, has thou slain the Jabberwock? 
        Come to my arms, my beamish boy! 
O frabjous day! Callooh! Callay!” 
        He chortled in his joy.

’Twas brillig, and the slithy toves 
        Did gyre and gimble in the wabe; 
All mimsy were the borogoves, 
        And the mome raths outgrabe.
| rowspan="2" | [[Image:Jabberwocky.jpg|thumb|360px|The Jabberwock, as illustrated by [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Tenniel John Tenniel]]]
|-
| class="right" | —[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lewis_Carroll Lewis Carroll]
|}

=== Society ===

Jabborwocks are beings of pure madness. Anything living near a jabberwock for years at a time becomes a Twisted version of itself (see [[Twisted Creature]]), hence the slithy toves and frumious bandersnatches living nearby it. No two jabberwocks live together due to their chaotic nature, and the loneliness gives them quite a manxome temperament.

=== Sample Lair ===

Jabberwockies typically live in forests: Usually found as a random wilderness encounter for epic characters.
See table of sample encounters of the [[Dungeon Masters Guide]].

=== Typical Treasure ===

Jabberwocks never carry vorpal blades among their treasure, but an inn near the tulgey woods where they live has a vorpal blade stashed there. See Minor Artifacts.

=== For Player Characters ===

Defeating a jabberwock gives the player a reputation among the various creatures bonded to the jabberwock. Bandersnatches and other such creatures will be too frightened to harm you after you have slain a jabberwock.

The king of the jabberwocks, Jabberwocky the XXVI, will do this for you in an even bigger way. NPCs who know the jabberwocks exist will be so amazed by your exploit that you gain a +10 bonus to all your Diplomacy Checks with them. However, the only known document which gives information on his whereabouts is written backwards in the [[Land of Nonsense (3.5e Environment)|Land of Nonsense]].

=== Advanced Creatures ===

Really tulgey woods where tumtum trees grow tend to produce tougher jabberwocks than normal.

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|section=
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|date_time=09:00, 12 May 2008 (MDT)
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|section=Two Complete Chapters
|notifier=OptimizationFanatic
|date_time=15:15, 11 May 2008 (MDT)
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|page=Form:DnD_Trait
|section=Anyway to make it so if special has nothing in it auto-deletes it on the final product?
|notifier=Green Dragon
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{{MoI-Row
|page=SRD_Talk:Improved_Whirlwind_Attack
|section=Problem
|notifier=Green Dragon
|date_time=13:57, 4 May 2008 (MDT)
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|page=User_talk:Sledged
|section=Barnstars
|notifier=OptimizationFanatic
|date_time=19:36, 2 May 2008 (MDT)
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{{MoI-Row
|page=Talk:4e_Complex_Special_Ability_Components
|section=
|notifier=Sam Kay
|date_time=09:51, 2 May 2008 (MDT)
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{{MoI-Row
|page=Main_Page
|section=This link to ENWorlds thing os outdated.
|notifier=Green Dragon
|date_time=23:59, 30 April 2008 (MDT)
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{{MoI-Row
|page=Talk:3.5e_Sorcerer/Wizard_Spells
|section=Formatting
|notifier=Green Dragon
|date_time=11:55, 13 April 2008 (MDT)
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{{MoI-Row
|page=Talk:Elfking_Aëlás_(DnD_NPC)
|section=
|notifier=Sam Kay
|date_time=09:33, 6 April 2008 (MDT)
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{{MoI-Row
|page=Template_talk:Charter_Spell
|section=
|notifier=Sam Kay
|date_time=08:49, 3 April 2008 (MDT)
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{{MoI-Row
|page=Form:DnD_Trait
|section=What do you think?
|notifier=Green Dragon
|date_time=15:00, 29 March 2008 (MDT)
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{{MoI-Row
|page=DnD_Flaws
|section=Thoughts on indentations?
|notifier=Green Dragon
|date_time=00:21, 17 March 2008 (MDT)
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{{MoI-Row
|page=Form_talk:Rating
|section=Help please
|notifier=Hawk
|date_time=22:04, 1 March 2008 (MST)
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{{MoI-Row
|page=MediaWiki:Common.css
|section=Can you edit the SMW css to make it look D&D-ish and good?
|notifier=Green Dragon
|date_time=14:58, 1 March 2008 (MST)
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{{MoI-Row
|page=Talk:Dungeons_and_Dragons
|section=Namespace?
|notifier=Green Dragon
|date_time=14:29, 28 February 2008 (MST)
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|page=Template_talk:OGL_Bottom
|section=Size
|notifier=Green Dragon
|date_time=00:59, 22 February 2008 (MST)
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{{MoI-Row
|page=UA_talk:Fighter_Variant:_Thug
|section=UA Material
|notifier=Green Dragon
|date_time=15:50, 18 January 2008 (MST)
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{{MoI-Row
|page=Talk:Dashing_Swordsman_(DnD_Prestige_Class)
|section=
|notifier=Sir Milo Teabag
|date_time=17:10, 16 January 2008 (MST)
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{{MoI-Row
|page=Steve_McHatin_(DnD_NPC)
|section=Doesn't this look fun?
|notifier=Green Dragon
|date_time=23:37, 24 December 2007 (MST)
}}
{{MoI-Row
|page=Talk:Witchkiller_(DnD_Prestige_Class)
|section=OGL?
|notifier=Green Dragon
|date_time=22:17, 19 December 2007 (MST)
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{{MoI-Row
|page=Crepitus_Crutch_(DnD_Equipment)
|section=
|notifier=Calidore Chase
|date_time=09:40, 10 December 2007 (MST)
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{{MoI-Row
|page=Discussion:What_is_the_perfect_Psion_build?
|section=Will someone help me build the perfect Psion?
|notifier=Green Dragon
|date_time=20:20, 9 December 2007 (MST)
}}
{{MoI-Row
|page=Talk:Charity_(DnD_NPC)
|section=Getting Closer
|notifier=Mander
|date_time=11:16, 8 December 2007 (MST)
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{{MoI-Row
|page=Talk:Advanced_Prestige_Classes_(DnD_Other)
|section=Identifier
|notifier=Green Dragon
|date_time=19:08, 5 December 2007 (MST)
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{{MoI-Row
|page=Talk:Abhorsen_(3.5e_Class)
|section=
|notifier=Sam Kay
|date_time=10:17, 3 December 2007 (MST)
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{{MoI-Row
|page=Talk:DnD_Onmyoji_Spells
|section=Homebrew?
|notifier=Green Dragon
|date_time=01:21, 23 November 2007 (MST)
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|page=3.5e_Environment_Preload
|section=
|notifier=Green Dragon
|date_time=13:01, 13 October 2007 (MDT)
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{{MoI-Row
|page=Talk:Anakim_(DnD_Creature)
|section=Split
|notifier=Green Dragon
|date_time=23:18, 3 October 2007 (MDT)
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{{MoI-Row
|page=User:The_Innkeeper
|section=
|notifier=Blue Dragon
|date_time=13:32, 8 September 2007 (MDT)
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{{MoI-Row
|page=dndmedia:D&D_Wiki_Media_talk:Copyrights
|section=Image documentation
|notifier=Cuthalion
|date_time=14:13, 11 May 2007 (MDT)
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{{MoI-Row
|page=Talk:Bokiin Berserker (DnD Creature)
|section=Correct?
|notifier=Green Dragon
|date_time=13:25, 5 April 2007 (MDT)
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{{MoI-Row
|page=Talk:Bokiin Soldier (DnD Creature)
|section=Correct?
|notifier=Green Dragon
|date_time=13:25, 5 April 2007 (MDT)
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== DLPC ==

What did you find out in your DPLC tests, Sledged? I am rather curious... --[[User:Green Dragon|Green Dragon]] 23:13, 11 February 2007 (MST)

:Just what we already know. The source code for it will have to be tweeked a bit. —[[User:Sledged|Sledged]] ([[User talk:Sledged|talk]]) 09:49, 12 February 2007 (MST)

::You did get the link to it, right? --[[User:Green Dragon|Green Dragon]] 10:25, 12 February 2007 (MST)

:::Yup, I looked at it a bit over the weekend. —[[User:Sledged|Sledged]] ([[User talk:Sledged|talk]]) 10:34, 12 February 2007 (MST)

::::What do you think about it (limitations/weaknesses/strengths)? --[[User:Green Dragon|Green Dragon]] 10:47, 12 February 2007 (MST)

:::::Limitations:
:::::* Wiki-code inside the tags go into the DB unparsed, the description template doesn't get converted into a wiki-table row. They only get parsed after it's pulled out of the DB. (Blue Dragon already stated this as an explanation of why putting the tags inside a template didn't work.)
:::::* If it were made so that the content was parsed before going into the DB, then wiki-code intended to be used in the context of the list page wouldn't work.
:::::* the 'class="even"' bit doesn't work even though it looks like it should.

:::::The standard DPL tag grabs all the pages the fit the criteria and displays them nice and neatly. Blue Dragon's custom extension uses two separate tags: <dplc> and <DPL2CU>. This first tag takes its contents an throws them in a table, the second tag (DPL2CU) goes through a process similar to the standard DPL, but instead of displaying the pages as links, it uses the page name to grab the stored information from the DPLC tag.

:::::I'm thinking instead of having the DPL2CU tag grab the info from the table, to snag it directly from the page instead. It would grab the page, parse it, then look for the an exposed dplc tag (by "exposed" I mean a dplc tag that wasn't parsed out due to IF statements, comment tags, or other means), and display its contents where the standard DPL tag would just display the page name as a link.

:::::One limitation of this approach is that there's a bit of overhead involved. Where Blue Dragon's implementation was efficient in retrieving and parsing only the tagged info, this implementation would be grabbing the whole page and parsing everything in it (<nowiki>{{#if}}</nowiki> and other similar blocks, templates, custom tags, etc...). This would make the page display slower, but I don't know how much slower. It's possible that Blue Dragon already tried this approach and found it too impractical. —[[User:Sledged|Sledged]] ([[User talk:Sledged|talk]]) 16:28, 12 February 2007 (MST)

::::::He did not try it. However, how much slower do you think it would go? Also, thanks for the above explanation - it has helped me figue this out more. --[[User:Green Dragon|Green Dragon]] 00:06, 13 February 2007 (MST)

:::::::I honestly wouldn't be able to how much. It could be so minor that no one would notice, or it could be so great that it would take over a minute to display. —[[User:Sledged|Sledged]] ([[User talk:Sledged|talk]]) 11:34, 13 February 2007 (MST)

::::::::I MoI'ed Blue Dragon; we will see what he has to say. --[[User:Green Dragon|Green Dragon]] 22:37, 13 February 2007 (MST)

:::::::::Contrary to what Green Dragon said, I have already tried this (it was my first idea). It does not very well at all, because through MW it would be set up as a hook which would parse every page. There are several other methods that I could try. The one which I am using is just a quick and dirty way of doing it. You may give it a shot yourself, or wait until I have time to work on it some more. --[[User:Blue Dragon|Blue Dragon]] 20:16, 15 February 2007 (MST)

::::::::::Okay, I've been giving this a little more thought. One thing that's been bothering me is that the page name has to be specified in the <dplc> tag. I kept thinking that there has to be some mechanic that allows the extension to retrieve the name of the page being parsed without the user specifying it. I looked on Wikimedia's meta site and found this [http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Extending_wiki_markup#Creating_an_XML-style_extension article], which says the <code>$parser</code> parameter has the member <code>mTitle</code> which, as the name suggests, contains the title of the page being parsed.

::::::::::Also, I see why the 'class="even"' doesn't work. The extension is manually replacing the wiki code with HTML code. I'm looking to see if it'll work to have the parser object do that job instead. —[[User:Sledged|Sledged]] ([[User talk:Sledged|talk]]) 13:03, 22 February 2007 (MST)

:::::::::::Ok, since I don't have a test environment, this is all from theory, so wherever I say "will," what I really mean is "to the best of my knowledge should." The following is a diff of what should be changed:

 #$wgHooks['ParserBeforeTidy'][] = 'renderDPLC';
 }
 
 
-''function renderDPLC($input)''
+'''function renderDPLC($input, $argv, &$parser)'''
 {
 // Split the input
 list ($title, $data) = explode('|',$input,2);
 $data = addslashes($data);
- ''$title = addslashes($title);''
+ '''$title = addslashes($parser->mTitle->getPrefixedText());'''
 // Load the database connection
 $dbr =& wfGetDB( DB_SLAVE );
 // See whether an entry already exists
 $sql = "SELECT id,data FROM wdd_dpl2custom WHERE title LIKE '$title'";
 $res = $dbr->query($sql);
 $numRows = $dbr->numRows( $res );
 if ($numRows != "")
 {

:::::::::::This will eliminate the need to specify the page name. However, for backwards compatibility, the first pipe after no-longer-needed page name must still be present, but the text before the pipe may be anything or nothing. Example, any of the following will work the same:

:::::::::::*<nowiki><dplc></nowiki>'''Animal Leader (DnD Class)|'''<nowiki>{{Base Class Description|Animal Leader|NR|Moderate Spellcasting, Divine Spellcasting|Animal Leaders find a natural affinity with animals, adventuring with them. Where a fighter uses a sword, or a wizard uses spells, an Animal Leader uses numbers.}}</dplc></nowiki>
:::::::::::*<nowiki><dplc></nowiki>'''PLASMA!!!|'''<nowiki>{{Base Class Description|Animal Leader|NR|Moderate Spellcasting, Divine Spellcasting|Animal Leaders find a natural affinity with animals, adventuring with them. Where a fighter uses a sword, or a wizard uses spells, an Animal Leader uses numbers.}}</dplc></nowiki>
:::::::::::*<nowiki><dplc></nowiki>'''|'''<nowiki>{{Base Class Description|Animal Leader|NR|Moderate Spellcasting, Divine Spellcasting|Animal Leaders find a natural affinity with animals, adventuring with them. Where a fighter uses a sword, or a wizard uses spells, an Animal Leader uses numbers.}}</dplc></nowiki>

:::::::::::The next is a bit more difficult to determine, but from what I can tell, <s>removing the following lines</s> making the following changes should allow the parser object to create the table from the wiki markup <s>core php code of the wiki to parse the wiki-code</s>:

 // ###### PROCESS SQL QUERY ######
 //DEBUG: output SQL query
 $output .= $logger->msg(DPL2_QUERY, $sSqlSelectFrom . $sSqlWhere);
 // echo 'QUERY: [' . $sSqlSelectFrom . $sSqlWhere . "] ";
 
 $res = $dbr->query($sSqlSelectFrom . $sSqlWhere);
− ''$allTitles = "";''
+ '''$allTitles = "{|\n";'''
 $localparser = new Parser();
− ''$i = 0; ''
 while ( $row = $dbr->fetchObject( $res ) )
 {
 $title = Title::makeTitle($row->page_namespace, $row->page_title);
 $sTitleText = $title->getText();
 $sTitleText = addslashes($sTitleText);
 // Look up the data for this return
 $sql = "SELECT data FROM wdd_dpl2custom WHERE title LIKE '$sTitleText'";
 $res2 = $dbr->query($sql);
 // See whether the result exists
 $numRows = $dbr->numRows( $res2 );
− ''$data = "";''
 if ($numRows != "") {
 $row2 = $dbr->fetchObject( $res2 );
− ''$data = $row2->data;''
+ '''$allTitles .= $row2->data . "\n";'''
 }
− ''// Parse the data''
− ''$output = $parser->parse( $data, $parser->mTitle, $parser->mOptions, false, false );''
− ''$output = $output->getText();''
− ''// Replace || with </td><td> and |- with </tr><tr>''
− ''if ($i == 0)''
− ''{''
− ''$output = str_replace('|-',"<tr><td>",$output);''
− ''$i++;''
− ''}''
− ''$output = str_replace('|-',"</tr><tr><td>",$output);''
− ''$output = str_replace('||',"</td><td>",$output);''
− ''$output = str_replace('|',"",$output);''
− ''$allTitles .= $output;''
 $dbr->freeResult( $res2 );
 }
− ''return $allTitles;''
 $dbr->freeResult( $res );
+ '''$allTitles .= "|}";'''
+ '''$allTitles = $parser->parse( $allTitles, $parser->mTitle, $parser->mOptions, false, false )->getText();'''
+ '''$allTitles = str_replace('<table>',"",$allTitles);'''
+ '''$allTitles = str_replace('</table>',"",$allTitles);'''
+ '''return $allTitles;'''

:::::::::::<s>The deleted code should be replaced with:</s>

:::::::::::As before, there's a chance that these approaches have already been tried. —[[User:Sledged|Sledged]] ([[User talk:Sledged|talk]]) 10:56, 27 February 2007 (MST)

::::::::::::Hello Sledged, Looking through your code (I have not implemented it) I see one problem with the titles of the pages issue. $parser->mTitle will give you the title of the current page where the dplc list is on. Is this what you want? --[[User:Blue Dragon|Blue Dragon]] 21:52, 27 February 2007 (MST)

:::::::::::::Not sure I follow. When you say "the current page where the dplc list is on" are you talking about the pages with the <DPL2CU> tags? —[[User:Sledged|Sledged]] ([[User talk:Sledged|talk]]) 10:04, 28 February 2007 (MST)

::::::::::::::No, he is talking about pages like [[DnD Prestige Classes]] (I think). --[[User:Green Dragon|Green Dragon]] 10:16, 28 February 2007 (MST)

:::::::::::::::That page is one of pages with <DPL2CU> tags, along with its counterparts for [[DnD Base Classes|base]], [[DnD Racial Paragon Classes|racial paragon]], and [[User NPC Classes with Descriptions|NPC]] classes. —[[User:Sledged|Sledged]] ([[User talk:Sledged|talk]]) 10:24, 28 February 2007 (MST)

::::::::::::::::Wow, sorry. I read your post wrong (I thought you said dplc). I need to read things more carefully, sorry. --[[User:Green Dragon|Green Dragon]] 10:29, 28 February 2007 (MST)

:::::::::::::::::Blue, if you are referring to the <DPL2CU> pages, I don't see any reason why they'd trigger the the <code>renderDPLC</code> function. As best as I can tell, only the <dplc> tag tiggers that function, and none of the list pages have that tag. Nor does the function triggered by the <DPL2CU> tag call <code>renderDPLC</code>.

:::::::::::::::::You got a test environment in which you could try it out? —[[User:Sledged|Sledged]] ([[User talk:Sledged|talk]]) 19:05, 1 March 2007 (MST)

::::::::::::::::::Hello Sledged. I implemented the code changes for renderDPLC, which make a lot of sense -- I became confused about which block of code that was, seeing that I had not seen the code for awhile. I am sorry for the confusion. The second changes of code make sense as well, and have been implemented. I am sorry for the confusion, but I was finally able to put some time into looking them over. There are a few changes that I made to your changes, which can be viewed at the same file that you used to view the original code. Thanks for the patches! --[[User:Blue Dragon|Blue Dragon]] 14:47, 4 March 2007 (MST)

:::::::::::::::::::Ok, the code didn't work on the first go. mTitle can not be converted directly to a string. The pages with the dplc tags are giving errors as a result. So there's an additional change above. —[[User:Sledged|Sledged]] ([[User talk:Sledged|talk]]) 15:24, 4 March 2007 (MST)

::::::::::::::::::::Fixed. --[[User:Blue Dragon|Blue Dragon]] 15:49, 4 March 2007 (MST)

::::::::::::Reanalysis of the changes to <code>DynamicPageList2CU</code> (see above). —[[User:Sledged|Sledged]] ([[User talk:Sledged|talk]]) 13:11, 2 March 2007 (MST)

==Thanks==

Thanks a ton. I'm still not used to this yet. sorry. [[User:Nighteye|Nighteye]] 13:51, 4 March 2007 (MST)

: No problem. Let us know if you need any other help. —[[User:Sledged|Sledged]] ([[User talk:Sledged|talk]]) 13:53, 4 March 2007 (MST)

== Skinhead ==

Sledged, since you did such a good job coming up with a skin for D&D Wiki, would you consider doing the same for [http://wikirps.dandwiki.com/ WikiRPS]? I'd actually be happy with the exact same one. --[[User:Cuthalion|Cúthalion]] 19:11, 4 March 2007 (MST)

: Here you go: [[User:Sledged/sledged.css|Sledged.css]] and [[MediaWiki:Common.css|Common.css]]. Sledged.css references a few images for backgrounds and such, so don't forget those. —[[User:Sledged|Sledged]] ([[User talk:Sledged|talk]]) 20:49, 4 March 2007 (MST)

:: Okay, thanks. I'll install those as soon as Blue Dragon sets me up. --[[User:Cuthalion|Cúthalion]] 20:55, 4 March 2007 (MST)

== HTML-to-Wiki request ==

Hi I'm a wiki noob so I don't even know if this is the right place to ask but, Green Dragon referred me to you for help with converting HTML from a spreadsheet to wiki format for a table. Is this even possible? The page is [[D20 twilight (DnD & D20M Variant Rule)#PHB Feat list]] --[[User:Sigendymion|Sig]] 00:42, 17 March 2007 (MDT)

:Looks like it'll be able to convert. Might take a while, though. I've been less active on the wiki the past few days. —[[User:Sledged|Sledged]] ([[User talk:Sledged|talk]]) 08:40, 17 March 2007 (MDT)

::Great, and thanks! Take your time, it's not too important.--[[User:Sigendymion|Sig]] 19:58, 20 March 2007 (MDT)

:::Shite, Sledged! Thanks, very nice. Hope you didn't do that the hard way, but if it was some technique could you possibly share how you did that?--[[User:Sigendymion|Sig]] 21:43, 11 April 2007 (MDT)

::::I just did it by hand. It wasn't difficult, just a little tedious. —[[User:Sledged|Sledged]] ([[User talk:Sledged|talk]]) 22:17, 12 April 2007 (MDT)

== (talk) ==

So, when you sign a post, it includes a (talk) option. How do you do that? --[[User:Cuthalion|Cúthalion]] 21:15, 21 April 2007 (MDT)

: Go to [[Special:Preferences|my preferences]] and copy and paste the following (or any variation thereof) into the "Nickname" text field:

:: ''<nowiki>—[[User:Cuthalion|Cúthalion]] ([[User talk:Cuthalion|talk]])</nowiki>''

: Be sure to check the "Raw Signatures" check box. —[[User:Sledged|Sledged]] ([[User talk:Sledged|talk]]) 22:09, 21 April 2007 (MDT)

:: That's just too cool. Thanks. –[[User:Cuthalion|Cúthalion]] ([[User talk:Cuthalion|talk]]) 08:26, 22 April 2007 (MDT)

:::Alternatively, you can make a page such as [[User:Armond/Signature]] and put in that field <nowiki>{{subst:User:Armond/Signature}}</nowiki>. Be sure to subst it - otherwise, it can become an inclusion on a lot of pages, and changing signature page will cause all the other pages to have to change. When the server's trying to change a thousand pages at once, things get laggy. [[User:Armond|Armond]] 12:01, 3 May 2007 (MDT)

== Thanks. ==

Thanks mucho for restoring that page. -[[User:Othtim|Othtim]] 11:13, 3 May 2007 (MDT)

:You're welcome. Just let us know if you need any more help. —[[User:Sledged|Sledged]] ([[User talk:Sledged|talk]]) 11:53, 3 May 2007 (MDT)

== Barnstar ==

{{Barnstar|I give you this Barnstar for improving on the original [[Template:Stat Block|Stat Block]] and creating [[Template:Stat Block 2|Stat Block v2]]. Stat Block v2 is a large improvement, loading times are decreased and finally spots for most everything one could include in an NPC are present. Overall, I give you this Barnstar for making a fast Stat Block which is all inclusive for the NPCs, thanks. --[[User:Green Dragon|Green Dragon]] 23:46, 16 May 2007 (MDT)}}

== Magic Items 2 ==

In my opinion, the primary magic item template should be named <nowiki>{{</nowiki>Magic Item<nowiki>}}</nowiki> -- on the theory that the most favored template should be the most obvious. I'd like to see the MIC standard be the default. Perhaps we should rename <nowiki>{{Magic Item}}</nowiki> to <nowiki>{{Magic Item Block}}</nowiki>, then move your template into <nowiki>{{Magic Item}}</nowiki>? {{Unsigned|2007-05-28 04:39:11|Dmilewski}}

:That works for me. —[[User:Sledged|Sledged]] ([[User talk:Sledged|talk]]) 08:31, 28 May 2007 (MDT)

::I moved the Magic Item Block over to its new location. I moved Magic Item 2 to Magic Item. --[[User:Dmilewski|Dmilewski]] 19:15, 28 May 2007 (MDT)

== how? ==

i am not sure about the rules for improving\creating articals.i would also like to help in some way

== Thanks ==

Thanks for welcoming new users. For helping, here is a barnstar ''':)'''. {{Barnstar|I give this Barnstar to Sledged for helping out during my absence in many ways. Sledged has been welcoming new users, and helping them in the process, during my absence. Thanks for helping so much. --[[User:Green Dragon|Green Dragon]] 19:36, 24 June 2007 (MDT)}}

== Totally Re:ing Helping DanD Wiki ==

Actually, I've found that I quite enjoy reviewing the homebrew classes that appear on the wiki, and am wondering whether there is a formalized group that accomplishes this. Wading through all of the classes on the wiki not knowing whether they've been reviewed or not seems painful.

[[User:Ortin|Ortin]] 22:00, 28 June 2007 (MDT)

: Thanks for rating them. There isn't a formalized group for rating the classes (yet). Anyone can give a rating to any user-supplied class. The best way to see what classes have already been rated is to follow the "... with Description" links from the [[DnD Classes]] page. The second columns in the tables gives the rating for each class. An entry with "NR" (or something else other than a numerical value) hasn't been rated yet. Thanks again. —[[User:Sledged|Sledged]] ([[User talk:Sledged|talk]]) 11:08, 29 June 2007 (MDT)

== yo! ==

hey, this is Carey Ruff, and i really love dnd wiki! (so does my friend, but hes shy.)
anyhoo, the one thing i don't like is the npc generator thingumy. {{unsigned|Carey Ruff|2007-07-19 17:32:26}}

:Aside from it's complexity, what specifically do you not like about it? —[[User:Sledged|Sledged]] ([[User talk:Sledged|talk]]) 13:22, 26 July 2007 (MDT)

== Barnstar: Template Fu ==

It's time for another barnstar! {{Barnstar|I give this barnstar to Sledge for his Wiki-Fu Grandmastery in implementing templates.--[[User:Dmilewski|Dmilewski]] 17:58, 16 August 2007 (MDT)}}

== Anti-Vandal Barnstar ==

{{Anti-Vandal Barnstar|I give you this Anti-Vandal Barnstar for reverting spam edits on [[3.5e Other]] about 13 minutes after the spammer, IP [[Special:Contributions/62.215.3.45|62.215.3.45]] attacked. Thanks for the good and fast response. --[[User:Green Dragon|Green Dragon]] 11:53, 3 September 2007 (MDT)}}

== Interesting Monster...==

Dear sir,

I am trying to add to your Jabberwock creature (it's fun to see something from good literature). I hope you don't mind the changes I made.
I'm trying to make a tie-in with the Wiki in general by making it an extraplanar creature from the [[Land of Nonsense (3.5e Environment)|Land of Nonsense]].
Since you brought the Jabberwock on the Wiki, do you object to this in any way? I do not wish to screw up your Jabberwock (or Lewis Carrol, for that matter) {{Unsigned|Sir Milo Teabag|21:22, 12 October 2007 (MDT)}}

: I don't mind the additions. The more details, the better. Besides, if I didn't want anyone modifying it, I wouldn't have put it on a wiki. —[[User:Sledged|Sledged]] ([[User talk:Sledged|talk]]) 16:54, 17 October 2007 (MDT)

== Thanks for the DLP Updates ==

Thanks for the big slew of DPL updates. LOOKING GOOD! --[[User:Dmilewski|Dmilewski]] 19:00, 28 November 2007 (MST)

:My pleasure. I've been itching to do something about all the "S" headers for the SRD lists. —[[User:Sledged|Sledged]] ([[User talk:Sledged|talk]]) 11:39, 29 November 2007 (MST)

== Your Block ==

Wow, sorry about blocking you, and I would like to apologize and explain myself. As I was looking at RC (with "Hide Patrolled" selected where blocks, user creations, etc do not show) I came across the edits today where you were reverting some spam. And, as normal, I clicked "Block", once I was on the page where you reverted the edits to make sure you had blocked the IP after it had made it's attack. Unfortunately I must have clicked the "Block" above your username rather than the IP address's... So, I blocked you instead... I am very sorry, and I hope it was not too much of an inconvenience. --[[User:Green Dragon|Green Dragon]] 20:55, 5 December 2007 (MST)

:Thanks for the explanation. I was just afraid I had inadvertently done something reproachable. Glad to know all is well. At first, I was worried that I had blocked myself instead of the intended IP address. (I can see myself doing that.) —[[User:Sledged|Sledged]] ([[User talk:Sledged|talk]]) 10:40, 6 December 2007 (MST)

::Luckily, no, you did not do anything bad ''':)'''. Also, sorry again. --[[User:Green Dragon|Green Dragon]] 19:40, 6 December 2007 (MST)

== A question too specified for the Discussion...==

What the heck is a schema? The only description I've heard of it is that it's some sort of reuseable scroll. Is this definition accurate? --[[User:Sir Milo Teabag|Sir Milo Teabag]] 15:47, 28 December 2007 (MST)

:Nothing comes to mind, but "schema" is a broad term. I'd have to see the context in which it's used to figure out what it means. —[[User:Sledged|Sledged]] ([[User talk:Sledged|talk]]) 22:43, 28 December 2007 (MST)

::There's a feat in some Eberron book called "Craft Minor Schema". Although I don't have the book, I have heard of the feat. --[[User:Sir Milo Teabag|Sir Milo Teabag]] 08:34, 4 January 2008 (MST)

:::"Etch Schema" in ''[[Magic of Eberron]]''. I'll look it up when I get a chance. —[[User:Sledged|Sledged]] ([[User talk:Sledged|talk]]) 13:11, 4 January 2008 (MST)

::::"Re-usable scroll" is fairly accurate. It's untyped magic (neither arcane nor divine) that can be used by anyone with the spell in question on their spell list. —[[User:Sledged|Sledged]] ([[User talk:Sledged|talk]]) 14:41, 6 January 2008 (MST)

== Namespace for Publications ==

You seem to remember where some of the more obscure discussions have taken place (for example the discussions about D&D Wiki in Wikiworld) so I have a question. Do you remember where the discussion is about publications and how we want to treat them? It talked about namespaces of publications and some other things... Thanks for your time. --[[User:Green Dragon|Green Dragon]] 14:11, 18 January 2008 (MST)

:I believe [[Talk:Dungeons and Dragons#Open Game License Content?|this]] is the discussion for which you're looking. —[[User:Sledged|Sledged]] ([[User talk:Sledged|talk]]) 14:26, 18 January 2008 (MST)

::No... I don't think so... I don't think I worded the question that well above, so hopefully this will help. The discussion dealt with publications and how we were going to treat them on D&D Wiki. Having a list of all publications and linking them from the [[Main Page]] was mentioned, I believe. Also the namespace of publications was discussed. WotC, Publication, and more namespaces were discussed until I think one was vaguely decided on, which was thought up by you, if I remember correctly. --[[User:Green Dragon|Green Dragon]] 15:16, 18 January 2008 (MST)

::: Then perhaps it was [[Talk:Elven High Mage (PI Prestige Class)|this discussion]]? —[[User:Sledged|Sledged]] ([[User talk:Sledged|talk]]) 15:18, 18 January 2008 (MST)

::::Exactly! Thank you so much!! --[[User:Green Dragon|Green Dragon]] 15:27, 18 January 2008 (MST)

== Headers ==

All the L3 headers are no longer bold; they just have a line under them... --[[User:Green Dragon|Green Dragon]] 14:36, 30 January 2008 (MST)

:I changed the L3s and L4s so that they can be distinguished from each other at a casual glance. At the L3's new size, the bold text was a bit too much. I figured this is probably why the mediawiki developers never made the L1s and L2s bold, so I put a border under it. Unfortunately, if the border goes all the way across the page, it makes it difficult to distinguish from the L2s. I had meant to do this change back in November, but it wasn't until I tried to demo the [[Template:DnD Base Class Infobox|DnD Base Class Infobox]] that I realized the change didn't take. —[[User:Sledged|Sledged]] ([[User talk:Sledged|talk]]) 14:45, 30 January 2008 (MST)

::It's growing on me ''':)'''. --[[User:Green Dragon|Green Dragon]] 09:17, 4 February 2008 (MST)

== Barnstars ==

{{Barnstar|I give you this Barnstar for designing and helping to implement the current [[Rating System]]. Thanks. --[[User:Green Dragon|Green Dragon]] 23:36, 27 February 2008 (MST)}} 
{{Barnstar|I give you this Barnstar for making all the classes on D&D Wiki use the new dpl2. Thanks for your help. --[[User:Green Dragon|Green Dragon]] 23:36, 27 February 2008 (MST)}} 
{{Barnstar|I give you this Barnstar for your work transcribing the [[UA:Races|Unearthed Arcana Races]] section! -- [[User:OptimizationFanatic|OptimizationFanatic]] 19:36, 2 May 2008 (MDT)}}

== Grammar Changes ==

You may be interested to read some comments I made on the [[Talk:Spider Rider (DnD Prestige Class)|Spider Rider PrC talk page]]. They are related to your "Standards and Formatting guide, you may wish to include similar suggestions in the guide. Thanks for your time.--[[User:Othtim|Othtim]] 18:23, 9 March 2008 (MDT)

: Good deal. I'll add them. If there's anything else you feel should be include, feel free to add them to the page. —[[User:Sledged|Sledged]] ([[User talk:Sledged|talk]]) 20:34, 9 March 2008 (MDT)

== The Archon ==
Thanks for editing.--[[User:Hatman|Hatman]] 09:35, 20 March 2008 (MDT)

==I like lots of your ideas==
Especialy the monkey and the admin NPC's.--[[User:Hatman|Hatman]] 14:37, 8 May 2008 (MDT)

: Thanks. If I could only get around to fleshing them out. —[[User:Sledged|Sledged]] ([[User talk:Sledged|talk]]) 15:23, 8 May 2008 (MDT)

::Maybe you should ask them what kind of characters they like to play. That would be a good place to start, maybe. I tried this with my friends before, but I couldnt go through with it because they were telling me about all kinds of races, classes, variant rules, and weird items. It got so complicated I just had to end it with mine, that I later got rid of. Sledged, you have inspiered me to try again. The monkey should be easy though.--[[User:Hatman|Hatman]] 14:30, 9 May 2008 (MDT)

:::you should make Green Dragon a half-gold dragon :) --[[User:Jack Bread|Jack Bread]] 15:33, 21 July 2008 (MDT)

== Searching ==

i keep forgeting to add DnD wiki to my favorites list so everytime i search "dand wiki" on yahoo, the only result for this wiki on it is your talk page ''':D''' --[[User:Jack Bread|Jack Bread]] 15:32, 21 July 2008 (MDT)

:I believe that if you try to search for the actual name of this site, D&D Wiki, it should pop right up. --[[User:Green Dragon|Green Dragon]] 15:47, 21 July 2008 (MDT)

==Barnstar==

{{Anti-Vandal Barnstar|This goes for a billion anti-vandal things I've seen Sledged do, more recently he revert several objectionable edits to the Chuck Norris deity page (not the first time either I think). --[[User:Aarnott|Aarnott]] 11:22, 22 July 2008 (MDT) }}

== Help on template:4e Power ==

Alrighty, I've been working on the 4e Power template thanks to the bit of help you gave me before, so I've decided to come to you this time for some help. I'm trying to get the #if and #ifeq 'thing-its' to work right. I have the background of the first section of the table to be colored according to the information in the paramater {{{aed}}}. I have a hell of a feeling I've got something wrong, mainly because putting either Daily, Encounter, or At-Will don't change it at all, but I can't really determine what. {{unsigned|Taritus}}

:If you need any template help, I can also help you. In my opinion, templates should use words for their parameters. {{{aed}}} is not very descriptive. Just write on my talk page if you need help. To use the parser functions such as #if you should read: [http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/ParserFunctions]. --[[User:Aarnott|Aarnott]] 20:21, 31 July 2008 (MDT)

::Thanks for the couple of fixes there. Working on changing the parameter names.--[[User:Taritus|Taritus]] 12:45, 1 August 2008 (MDT)

== Woot, Templates ==

So, I just finished the [[template:4e Magic Item]]. Mind looking over it and making sure there are no problems?--[[User:Taritus|Taritus]] 18:28, 21 August 2008 (MDT)

== Template woes... ==

Hey Sledged. I can't seem to get rid of the trailing newline in [[User:Aarnott/Table Link]]. I want to use it as a template for the links in my User Page tables (so that I can change the color on the fly and such). Any ideas on how I can stop this problem from happening? --[[User:Aarnott|Aarnott]] 18:18, 8 October 2008 (MDT)

: You're not going to get rid of the trailing newline. It's hard-coded in MW that any page with content ends with a newline character. Anyway, since you used the onlyinclude tag, it shouldn't matter that there's a newline character since it's not within the onlyinclude tags. —[[User:Sledged|Sledged]] ([[User talk:Sledged|talk]]) 18:24, 8 October 2008 (MDT)

== Another noob asking for tech support ==
As you'll see at [[User:Hooper/ValgoraTemplate]] I'm trying to create a bottom categorized navbox (this particular one for all the pages of my homebrew campaign, but one that can be used for anyone [see: [[Template:Navbox]] ]), but I'm having extreme difficulty figuring out where I'm going wrong. Its mostly a copy-paste job from wiki if that helps at all.

And a sub-question, on a page I'm working on now I'm hoping to insert a standard row/column table. Is there already a template for such a table or a good page I can steal the code from and customize for the new page purposes? Thanks.  [[User:Hooper|''' Hooper ''']][[User talk:Hooper|  talk  ]][[Special:Contributions/Hooper|  contribs  ]][[Special:Emailuser/Hooper|  email  ]] 14:58, 14 November 2008 (MST)

== Paragon Path ==

I hope you don't mind but I just started on creating a paragon path for your elementalist class http://www.dandwiki.com/wiki/Chaos_Master but I have no idea how to use the wiki formatting so please if you feel so inclined to try and help me please do so and if you don't want me making something based off of your class just say so on me talk and Ill remove it.

Explodus

== Redirects ==
I see you found where I cleaned up the broken/double redirects. Sorry for the workload. But it looks alot better now. Thanks.  [[User:Hooper|''' Hooper ''']][[User talk:Hooper|  talk  ]][[Special:Contributions/Hooper|  contribs  ]][[Special:Emailuser/Hooper|  email  ]] 15:12, 26 December 2008 (MST)

== See Also ==

See also http://semeb.com/dpldemo/index.php?title=Main_Page And, if you have some spare time, could you possibly log into the tavern? --[[User:Green Dragon|Green Dragon]] 15:16, 20 March 2009 (MDT)

== AdminBadge ==

I'd like to label you as an admin with the <s><nowiki>[[Template:AdminBadge]]</nowiki></s> on your user page. If you have a reason you don't think you should have the badge or you don't think the badge is a good idea, please discuss it on the badge's [[Template talk:AdminBadge|discussion]]. -[[User:Valentine the Rogue|Valentine the Rogue]] 16:07, 11 April 2009 (MDT)

== Anti-Vandal Barnstar ==

{{Anti-Vandal Barnstar|For reverting spam on many deleted pages and overall helping keep D&D Wiki clean from vandals' work throughout the last couple of days, I give you this Barnstar. Thanks for your help. --[[User:Green Dragon|Green Dragon]] 22:03, 18 April 2010 (UTC)}}

== Protecting a Page ==

I just notice you were on, I've been waiting for an admin to log in all day. I have been reverting the same spam edits, by the same IP all day since this morning. I've reverted spam on that same page 40 times already, please protect the page and block the IP! --[[User:Vrail|Vrail]] 20:55, 27 June 2010 (UTC)

User talk:Vrail

2010-09-04T04:54:35Z

Vrail:

{{:User:Vrail/Top Template}}

== Welcome to D&D Wiki! ==

;Welcome!
Hello {{PAGENAME}}, and welcome to D&D Wiki. I hope you have been enjoying this site, and I hope you have been finding the information here on D&D Wiki useful. I am an admin (and, actually, the owner as well) here on D&D Wiki along with a couple other people who make up "The Face" of D&D Wiki. Everything relating to admins can be found [[Meta Pages#Administration|here]].
;Questions:
If you have any question about D&D Wiki, D&D, formatting on D&D Wiki, what day today is, or whatever, an admin will, many times, give a good answer. Please feel free to ask any admin any question ([http://www.dandwiki.com/wiki/index.php?title=User_talk:Green_Dragon&action=edit&section=new ask me a question!]).
;Formatting
Formatting on D&D Wiki (or any wiki for that matter) can be very difficult, and if you need help a good place to start is [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Help:Editing Help:Editing] on Wikipedia (or even their [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Introduction Introduction] page). This will explain the basic wiki formatting and should provide quite a few useful links that explain more specific areas of wiki formatting. Again, if you have any questions about formatting on D&D Wiki please ask them as, I imagine, anybody will be more than happy to help you get them answered.
;Community
A strong and welcoming community exists on D&D Wiki, and I am sure you will find it rather nice. Most discussions take place on content talk pages, however please feel free to walk into [[Special:TheTavern|The Tavern]] (our local chat room) and talk to some fellow D&D Wikians. Anyway, on D&D Wiki, possibly since discussions are never deleted, people try to be nice. This means please follow Wikipedia's guidelines on [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Civility Civility] and [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Etiquette Etiquette] when discussing anything. Also, on a pretty different note, to ensure people know who posted what, please sign your name after a post with four tildes (<nowiki>~~~~</nowiki>) or by clicking on the signature icon. [[Image:Signature_icon.png]] This will automatically produce your name and the date. Anyway, I hope you come to love the close-knit D&D Wiki community and welcome again, you are now a D&D Wikian. --[[User:Green Dragon|Green Dragon]] 15:19, 12 April 2009 (MDT)

== E8 in Campaigns ==

Just a reminder before I answer your question, make sure you sign your posts with four tildes that way others can get back to you.

On the subject of campaigns and Epic 6/8. The whole idea of E6/8 is to limit character levels so that you stay within different playstyles. E6 and E8 put pressure on casters to not over-abuse their spells. And keep the players in the spot where they know that encounters are dangerous and could be fatal. As you approach other levels it becomes increasingly insignificant to limit level progression because players are already powerful enough and expanding into Prestige Classes to make it not mean much. At 11th level casters have access to 6th levels spells, and already have a huge repertoire of lower level spells that can easily end encounters. The players have gotten a good deal of magic equipment and can continue to gain that easily. This altogether defeats the purpose of limiting levels. Most people that I've seen have used E6, E8 or E10. Generally you don't want to stop at an odd level as prepared casters have an unfair advantage over spontaneous casters. - [[User:Sleaker|Sleaker]] 02:06, 2 April 2010 (UTC)

== Formatting ==

There is a formatting preload to do all the formatting for you somewhere. lemme dig it up real quick.

Found them. [[Create_New_Campaign_Setting]] by Valentine. He did a very good job, and I used his with minor adjustments.

- [[User:Sleaker|Sleaker]] 18:07, 3 April 2010 (UTC)

== Barnstar ==

{{Barnstar|[[User:Vrail|Vrail]] changed all the [[:Category:Variant Rule|Variant Rules]] and [[:Category:Setting|Campaign Settings]] pages from "DnD" to "3.5e". Thanks for your help. --[[User:Green Dragon|Green Dragon]] 18:42, 13 May 2010 (UTC)}}

:Wow, thanks! My first Barnstar! I'm so happy. ''':D'''--[[User:Vrail|Vrail]] 18:44, 13 May 2010 (UTC)

::Congrats dude. --[[User:Grim914|Grim914]] 03:33, 28 May 2010 (UTC)

== Activeness ==

Hi Vrail, I appreciate the shout out on my talk page... Yeah, I'm still active, posting new material now and then... I'm currently working at uploading a list of class-specific spells for the Battlemage, both my own and the others from an old Mongoose publication; I don't suppose you know how to set up a class spells page? I noticed that Keyblade Wielder class from Kingdom Hearts has one, and I reeeeeeeeeeealllllly need a spell list of my own. Any help on that would be wicked. Oh, and enjoy my work, this is for all of you guys. \m/ -- [[User:Danzig Nyttafjell|Danzig]] 01:36, 15 May 2010 (UTC)

:You ought to check out my user page and the battlemage spells list, both which I finished today. There's some stuff there you might dig. -- [[User:Danzig Nyttafjell|Danzig]] 09:03, 16 May 2010 (UTC)

== Spelling ==

It's sort of bad karma to edit the spelling/grammar of other people's posts. Formatting is fine if someone got the indentation wrong, though. Btw, since you were there, why don't you comment on poop-slinger? We're kinda going around in circles as it is. [[User:Jazzman831|Jazz]][[User talk:Jazzman831|Man]] 15:27, 15 May 2010 (UTC)

:Oh sorry, didn't mean to cause any discomfort, I'll be sure not to do it again. ''':)''' I was thinking about commenting, but I didn't really know what to say...--[[User:Vrail|Vrail]] 18:13, 16 May 2010 (UTC)

::Lol, I didn't mean to scold. It's just that I spent a lot of time on a wiki which did some pretty mean things, and certain things bring on my PTSD. [[User:Jazzman831|Jazz]][[User talk:Jazzman831|Man]] 03:02, 17 May 2010 (UTC)

:::NP, but you had a good point. ''':)'''--[[User:Vrail|Vrail]] 03:07, 17 May 2010 (UTC)

== DnD moves ==

First of all, AMAZING JOB. I didn't think you would actually not only move all those pages, but then fix and place deletion tags on all those redirects!! Looks like it's time for me to clear out the deletion category again, grrr...

If you are bored, I have some links you might like. Then again, you may not like them and for that I apologize. Firstly, there's [http://www.dandwiki.com/w/index.php?title=Special%3AAllPages&from=DnD&to=DnD+zz&namespace=0 Pages that start with DnD] and [http://www.dandwiki.com/w/index.php?ns0=1&ns1=1&ns2=1&ns3=1&ns4=1&ns5=1&ns6=1&ns7=1&ns8=1&ns9=1&ns10=1&ns11=1&ns12=1&ns13=1&ns14=1&ns15=1&ns100=1&ns101=1&ns102=1&ns103=1&ns104=1&ns105=1&ns106=1&ns107=1&ns152=1&ns153=1&ns154=1&ns155=1&ns156=1&ns157=1&ns158=1&ns159=1&redirs=1&search=DnD&title=Special%3ASearch&fulltext=Advanced+search&fulltext=Advanced+search pages that include the phrase DnD].

Also, I remembered something. Most of our preloads are nowiki'd, which means that they don't show up in categories and such, but the downside is that they also don't show up in "what links here" links. Some of those older preloads (I know, for example, [[DnD Material Preload]], which is what made me think of this in the first place) still link to Dungeons and Dragons, which is one of the pages I think you moved.

Oh, and one ''more'' thing about preloads: a lot of ''them'' have links to them that don't show up in the "what links here". So if you do move a preload, you have to make sure that you also move the "add a new X" page to link to the new location. But since the "add a new X" page uses an input box instead of a wikilink, it won't show up in the preload's "what links here" page. Does that make sense? [[User:Jazzman831|Jazz]][[User talk:Jazzman831|Man]] 15:40, 27 May 2010 (UTC)

:That makes some sense, I'm sure when I go back through it I can figure this out. It also looks like I'll have my work cut out for me moving all those DnD pages. Even after all that, half of those will probably create double redirects for me to fix too. ''':P''' --[[User:Vrail|Vrail]] 20:34, 27 May 2010 (UTC)

::Yup. :) [[User:Jazzman831|Jazz]][[User talk:Jazzman831|Man]] 22:37, 27 May 2010 (UTC)

:::I just noticed you moving the creature pages. If you would not mind could you move them to follow the format as found on [[D20 Modern Equipment]]? That is the full name then the designation first with regard to the previous type and then with regard to the page organization type, e.g. [[D20 Modern Equipment Progress Level 5 All]] (D20 Modern (<tt>1; designation of D&D Wiki, not the page</tt>) Equipment (<tt>2; designation of d20 Modern, not the page</tt>) Progress Level 5 (<tt>3; designation of equipment (at least how it is organized), not the page</tt>) All (<tt><<>>; general designation (exception), an 'all' organization type (all of the previous listed)</tt>). Does this make sense? So, for example, 3.5e Creatures CR 1. --[[User:Green Dragon|Green Dragon]] 20:48, 13 June 2010 (UTC)

::::I think this makes sense. So for example, just to make sure I'm getting it I would move (redirect fixed) to [[D20M NPCs CR 8]] instead of [[D20M CR 8 NPCs]]? --[[User:Vrail|Vrail]] 20:56, 13 June 2010 (UTC)

:::::Ya. Same for 3.5e of course, I'm not saying it's just d20 Modern. --[[User:Green Dragon|Green Dragon]] 20:57, 13 June 2010 (UTC)

::::::I noticed you moving some more pages. To note there is no need for two NPCs in a name. It's comparable to two 3.5e's, for example. --[[User:Green Dragon|Green Dragon]] 21:34, 17 June 2010 (UTC)

:::::::Oops! How many times did I do that? I'll go back through my contributions and fix em. ''':)''' --[[User:Vrail|Vrail]] 02:54, 18 June 2010 (UTC)

== Table of Contents ==

Vrail, I really need help creating the table of contents side bar for my campaign setting. Thanks :D --[[User:Grim914|Grim914]] 04:53, 31 May 2010 (UTC)

:Alright, I'm swamped with work for the next couple of days, but I'll for sure make one for you when I get a chance. ''':)''' --[[User:Vrail|Vrail]] 17:15, 31 May 2010 (UTC)

== Tavern re-opening MoI ==

Since you commented on Green Dragon's talk page about re-opening the tavern, I thought I would let you know that it's been over a week and I have made [[Discussion:Re-opening_the_tavern%3F_What_does_the_community_think%3F|this discussion]] to ask the community what they think. I would appreciate it if you could stop by and leave your two cents. Thanks, [[User:Badger|Badger]] 20:50, 10 June 2010 (UTC)

:Thanks for the notice, I left my comments. ''':)''' --[[User:Vrail|Vrail]] 02:54, 18 June 2010 (UTC)

== Protections on Pages Have Been Lowered ==

Commence page movement. —[[User:Sledged|Sledged]] ([[User talk:Sledged|talk]]) 22:20, 23 June 2010 (UTC)

:Thanks. One of the pages ([[DnD Guideline Preload]]) applies to both 3.5e and 4e, so I'm unsure what GD wants it moved to, so that'll take a day or two to sort out. --[[User:Vrail|Vrail]] 03:11, 24 June 2010 (UTC)

== Anti-Vandalism Barnstar ==

{{Anti-Vandal Barnstar|Thank you for your outstanding efforts in removing spam.--[[User:Grim914|Grim914]] 05:34, 27 June 2010 (UTC)}}

Congratulations! --[[User:Axl|Axl]] 02:18, 4 July 2010 (UTC)

:Thanks! --[[User:Vrail|Vrail]] 03:29, 5 July 2010 (UTC)

== Collapsible Text ==

A few weeks ago you gave me some help with collapsible text, and I've only just now gotten around to implementing it on my pages. After twiddling with it for a while I finally figured out how it all comes together, but I still have a question. Is there a way to make the text collapsed by default? What I'm trying to do is make a "DMs only" section on some of my pages, but the collapsible text is preformatted to be visible. I guess it's "collapsible" whereas I'm looking for "de-collapsible," if that makes sense. Any help? [[User:ThatGuyEli|ThatGuyEli]] 02:35, 19 July 2010 (UTC)

:Of course. ''':)''' To have it auto collapsed when you navigate to the page simply use this code:

:<nowiki>{| class="collapsible collapsed"</nowiki> 
:<nowiki>|Text</nowiki> 
:<nowiki>|}</nowiki>

:Which would show up as:

:{| class="collapsible collapsed"
|Text
|}

:Hope that helps, remember, just ask if you ever need a thing. --[[User:Vrail|Vrail]] 03:08, 19 July 2010 (UTC)

::Adding the word collapsed after the word collapsible should do it. That is, your top line should say <nowiki>{|class="collapsible collapsed"</nowiki>. Simple, I know. Just a heads up, I'm pretty sure collapsible boxes don't work with every web browser. I know on Google Chrome I see all the text if the default is open (and no button to close it), and when the default is closed I don't see anything (and no button to open it). --[[User:Badger|Badger]] 03:09, 19 July 2010 (UTC)

:::Thanks for the help, guys! That worked perfectly. :) [[User:ThatGuyEli|ThatGuyEli]] 03:13, 19 July 2010 (UTC)

::::Sorry about the edit conflict, I didn't know if you'd be back tonight and I figured if I knew I might as well answer. --[[User:Badger|Badger]] 03:39, 19 July 2010 (UTC)

:::::Lol, np, I would've done the same thing ''':)''' --[[User:Vrail|Vrail]] 03:43, 19 July 2010 (UTC)

== Template ==

Hey Vrail,

:Do you know where the Hand Slot Item template is?

--[[User:Axl|Axl]] 22:58, 21 July 2010 (UTC)

:There is actually no specific template for hand slot items. If you wish to create one you are simply provided with the basic equipment template. Seeing as there are no other items in this section, you can probably look at items for other equipment slots or look at how things are formatted in the books if you want to be more specific or acurate than the basic template allows.

:Sorry I couldn't be of more help. --[[User:Vrail|Vrail]] 04:13, 22 July 2010 (UTC)

::That's okay, I just took it from a sourcebook. It seems that the Homebrew Arm slot items are either not showing up, or that nothing is supposed... Wait. No, that can't be it. My [[Assassin Bracers (4e Equipment)|Asassin Bracers]] are arm slot items, I think. So it should have ''something'' there. I've already asked Green Dragon, but I think the DPLs are still down. Maybe, I'll go check. --[[User:Axl|Axl]] 04:04, 24 July 2010 (UTC)

::Hmm, maybe it's in another category. Maybe that's not its name. --[[User:Axl|Axl]] 04:06, 24 July 2010 (UTC)

== Avern ==

Hey Vrail,
:Do you know who the guy is that created the [[Avern (4e Race)]]? If he's not active, should I fix up his race?

--[[User:Axl|Axl]] 23:16, 3 August 2010 (UTC)

::The user who created the page is [[Samthere]]. He is also still active, having just posted on July 25th. He also created and last posted on the [[Avern (4e Race)|Avern]] on July 25th. However even though he is active it would be fine by all wiki standards if you went ahead and edited it anyways. A wiki is a collaborative work and any user can edit any page at any time. If the edits are poorly done, then they can simply be reverted. However it is generally considered proper etiquette to discuss the revisions on the talk page for the page in question, or the main editors talk page. However this is not a requirement. So ya, feel free to make any changes you want to the page. --[[User:Vrail|Vrail]] 16:15, 4 August 2010 (UTC)

:::All right, thanks. --[[User:Axl|Axl]] 00:53, 10 August 2010 (UTC)

::::Um, just one question. If you every have any free time on D&D Wiki, would you mind helping just insert feats, equipment, and whatever into my [[D&D 4.0 Future (4e Sourcebook)|sourcebook]]? I kinda need a little help. --[[User:Axl|Axl]] 00:54, 10 August 2010 (UTC)

:::::I'm not actually a 4e guy, really I just post in 3.5e. However if anything jumps out at me I'll add it. ''':)''' --[[User:Vrail|Vrail]] 00:58, 10 August 2010 (UTC)

::::::All right, thanks. I just need help. --[[User:Axl|Axl]] 02:02, 10 August 2010 (UTC)

== Deletion Templates ==

Next time you go through and add a bunch of delete templates to redirect pages, would you mind using the "minor edit" box? I like to keep track of the recent edits, and three dozen edits like that really clutter up the recent changes. Thanks. --[[User:Badger|Badger]] 12:25, 20 August 2010 (MDT)

:Sorry about that, I'll make sure I check that next time. I also monitor the recent changes page while I'm on the wiki so I know how you feel. Thanks for reminding me. ''':)''' --[[User:Vrail|Vrail]] 15:55, 20 August 2010 (MDT)

== Adminship ==

I would just like to notify people that I will not be here to see how my RfA concludes. Something came up in my life that I was not anticipating and I will be gone for the next week. Sorry for the inconvenience of not being able to post right away if my RfA does come through. Thanks for understanding. --[[User:Vrail|Vrail]] 18:09, 21 August 2010 (MDT)

:Welcome to Adminship. You are now part of "The Face" of D&D Wiki. Honestly, as you will notice, not much has been changed now that you are an admin. If anything, I would say more burden is placed on you. I recommend you take a look at [[Special:ListGroupRights]] if you have not already. Some of the the new features' uses pertaining to D&D Wiki follow. You can now delete pages, protect pages, rollback edits, block users and IP's, edit every page, patrol edits, and do a couple more minor things.
:*Deleting pages is normally done through [[:Category:Candidates for Deletion]]. Anything with a good reason to be deleted on that page should be deleted. The other time pages should be deleted is when someone makes a certain page and after a few edits they either blank the page or replace it with something like "Please delete this". If this page consisted of close to just the preload, just delete it.
:*Protecting pages has quite a few different times when it should be used. Pages should be protected according to the author's wishes (with [[Template:Locked Page]] added to the top of the page in question), in case of conflict (with [[Template:Temp Locked Page]] added to the top of the page in question), in case of [[Help:FAQ#What are OGL, OGC, SRD, and GNU FPL?|OGC]] published materials (with [[Template:OGL Top]] added to the top of the page in question and [[Template:OGL Bottom]] added to the bottom), or finally if the page is a vital part of D&D Wiki's organization. If it deals with D&D Wiki's organization it either needs to be be protected from IP edits or all non-sysop edits. As a rule of thumb pages up to two tiers deep (up for discussion/rethinking) from the [[Main Page]] are normally locked to anyone but sysops and all the others are just protected from IP edits. For Example [[3.5e Homebrew]] is protected from all non-sysop edits whereas a deeper in page like [[LA 0 Races]] is only protected from IP edits. No template needs to be added to pages if they are part of D&D Wiki's organization (even though some do exist like [[Template:Admin Locked Page]])
:*Blocking a user or IP should only be used after an IP or user vandalizes a certain page. To block someone just click "block" (found on [[Special:Recentchanges|RC]], the diff in question, the userpage, etc) and fill out the corresponding form. For a typical vandalism attack I normally block the user for two weeks. Certain things demand a longer block and others a shorter. No standards have been set for block lengths, use your best judgment.
:*Editing every page on D&D Wiki mostly means you can now edit the [[SRD:System Reference Document|SRD]] and the [[MSRD:Modern System Reference Document|MSRD]]. Feel free to edit them if inaccuracies are found. If interested further please look at the [[SRD Talk:System Reference Document#SRD ToDo List|SRD ToDO List]] or the [[MSRD Talk:Modern System Reference Document#Tasks|MSRD tasks]]. Of course that is only the base. There is never enough help to get everything done, so I am sure your help would be appreciated.
:*Patrolling edits should, in a nutshell, be used when you have looked over an edit and fixed everything that needs to be fixed (this includes reviewing the content with templates, answering questions, etc).
:I know this is really long-winded, so I'll keep the rest short. You have more burden on yourself now that you are an admin because users will be looking at you for editing help, knowledge of the standards, etc. It's a bit more work, but I really hope you enjoy being an admin and I hope you decide to stay around on D&D Wiki for a while more to come. Welcome to Adminship, again you're now part of "The Face" of D&D Wiki. --[[User:Green Dragon|Green Dragon]] 18:32, 24 August 2010 (MDT)

::I am terribly sorry that it took me so long to get back to the wiki. What I thought would take but a week turned out to be much more lengthy. Anyways, it's great that I was accepted as an admin and I will do my best to use these new powers to aid the wiki. --[[User:Vrail|Vrail]] 08:33, 3 September 2010 (MDT)

== Congradulations!!!! ==

I saw that you were made an admin and wanted to congratulate you. --[[User:Axl|Axl]] 15:31, 30 August 2010 (MDT)

:Thank you. --[[User:Vrail|Vrail]] 08:34, 3 September 2010 (MDT)

Pyramid Head

2010-09-04T01:10:57Z

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#REDIRECT [[Pyramid Head (3.5e Creature)]]

Pyramid Head (3.5e Creature)

2010-09-04T01:10:57Z

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__NOTOC__
{{3.5e Creature
|creature=
|size= medium |type= Outsider
|hd= 20HD |hp= 972
|init= +1
|speed= 30ft. cannot run or hustle
|ac= 7 |touch= 7 |flat= 7
|bab= +34 |grapple= +34
|at= greatknife +35/+30/+25/+20 melee (2d6+16, crit 17-20/x2 slashing)
|full_at= greatknife +35/+30/+25/+20 melee (2d6+16, crit 17-20/x2 slashing)
|space= 5ft./5ft. |reach= 5ft.
|sa= Flesh Rip
|sq= DR 10/holy, Aura of Fear, Aura of Darkness, Fast Healing 20, Perfect Sight
|fort= +26 |ref= +0 |will= +4
|str= 39 |dex= 5 |con= 34 |int= 5 |wis= 7 |cha= 34
|skills= Climb +14, Intimidate +35, Jump +14
|feats= Improved unarmed strike, combat reflexes, great fortitude, improved critical (great knife), improved initiative, power attack, cleave, great cleave, improved sunder, quick draw, shadow heritage, toughness (4), weapon focus (great knife), weapon specialization (great knife), improved toughness
|env= any land
|org= solitary or pair
|cr= about 25
|treas= none
|align= always chaotic evil
|adv= as fighter
|la= +5?
}}
{{ImageNeeded}}

''''



=== Combat ===



'''Flesh Rip''' On successful grapple can make Strength check (DC 25) to rip the victim’s flesh off; victim must be at most 6’5” tall, all who see this happen must make a Will Save (DC 20) or flee, successful save only shaken

'''Aura of Fear''' Aura of Fear: 100ft. radius around pyramid head, Will Save (DC 20) or be shaken and flee.

'''Aura of Darkness''' Wherever a pyramid head goes a permanent aura of darkness (like the darkness spell) follows and plunges everything within 1 mile into darkness, light sources work normally.

'''Perfect Sight''' Sees perfectly in darkness and in low-light, cannot be made blind.

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Kronians (Framework Supplement)

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Vrail: Links (Double redirect)

{{x0
|la=+0
|ecl=1
|type=Humanoid
|ability_adjust=+2 Strength, −2 Intelligence, −2 Charisma
|size=Medium
|favored_class=Barbarian
|desc=Gruff Barbarians of the North
}}

=Krônians=
A culture of barbaric nomads in the northern highlands of Aina, the people of Krôn are powerful and hardy. They rise every morning to toil for their resources and fight for their territory, only to lay down at night and repeat it the next day.

==Personality==
Krônians dwell in the northern highlands between the Ebony and Feral mountain ranges, and their temperament reflects this harsh landscape. It is said that Kaol, Draenic Prince of Strength and Hardship, created the Krônians for no other reason than to subject a people to eternal struggle, but the Krônians have thrived in spite of the gloomy Prince on his throne. They are tough, solemn, physically powerful, and wary of outsiders after centuries of raids from neighboring lands. They also possess an odd courtesy, knowing that affronting a fellow Krônian doesn't mean receiving an insult, but receiving the tip of a sword. They are never slighted, but just the same Krônians can be agreeable if one knows how to deal with them. They are wary of magic, and consider physical weaklings to be worthless. Utility and pragmatism are highly prized in Krônian tribes.

==Physical Description==
Krônians are a race of tall, powerfully-built humans. Men and women alike often have imposing physiques, with women substanstially smaller than men. These folk are practically created for strength and battle; indeed, outside of their homeland, Krônians are known almost solely for their tenacity in battle and their metalworking skills. They are fair skinned, with dark hair and light eyes, often hazel or blue. They range in height from 5.5 to 6.5
feet, and weigh between 140 and 250 pounds, with the women noticeably shorter and lighter than the men. They are a ruddy people, wearing whatever suits the climate, usually either animal skins or thicker furs, and see little use for decoration. Their life spans are identical with Atralonians, coming to maturity at around age 15 and rarely living even a century. Because of their harsh lives, many Atralonians die before their natural limit due to conditions or warfare.

==Relations==
Krônians have no love of any man, mer or beast from the wide world. They identify with the daily struggle of the Hressh (though they do not trust the lizardfolk) and respect the combat prowess of the Geats (but have been attacked by Geatish raiders too many times to like them). They have almost nothing in common with Atralonians, and are the complete opposites of the Altmer. They have practically no contact with the Bosmer, Dunmer, and Ra'Virr, though they regard all races with equal parts suspicion disdain.

==Alignment==
Krônians follow the maxim that if one doesn't treat others with respect, they are asking for death. Cooperation is essential in the highlands of Krôn, and any dissent amongst the clan is dealt with. That said, they are inherently free-spirited, and are almost always chaotic. They are not often evil, but neither are they frequently good. Many times, they seem much more chaotic (and much less good) amongst "civilized" peoples than in the wild lands.

==Lands==
The highlands of [[Krôn (Asylon Supplement)|Krôn]] are surrounded on three sides by imposing peaks, and are filled with dark forests, empty moors, wild cattle, and dangerous beasts. The population of Krôn is small, but is almost completely dominated by the Krônians: very few outsiders have a reason to go to Krôn, and Krônians don't want outsiders coming into their lands to waste valuable resources.

Krônians are organized into several dozen clans that rarely number above 150 souls due to their constant battle with nature and those who would try to encroach on clanheld lands. Many wonder why Krônians don't move to a more hospitable land, but when asked, a Krônian will usually only respond with mocking laughter. Krônians are almost inexplicably patriotic of their homeland, and would gladly sacrifice themselves to defend it from those who would try to take what is theirs by birthright.

==Religion==
The Krônians revere Kaol, the Draenic Prince of Strength, Courage and Hardship, to the exclusion of all other gods. The folk of the north believe that Kaol lives at the always-shrouded peak of the greatest mountain in their lands, and sends forth doom and death. Worshipping Kaol only earns his ire, so the Krônians instead merely recognize his power, and use it to explain the hardships of their daily life. They believe that Kaol is completely
removed from the endeavors of Man and Mer, save that at birth he breathes strength and courage into their hearts, enough to endure the hardships and cruelty of life in their native lands.

==Language==
The Krônians have their own tongue which has some connection both to Geatish and to the common tongue of Atralonia. It is unclear which of the three came first, but Krônian has changed little over the millenia, and is the most foreign of the three.

==Names==
Krônians are given a name at birth, and hold no family names. When they have reason to leave their clans they often name themselves as members of their clan after their given name. When outside of their country, they name themselves as Krônians. Sometimes a Krônian will come to earn a title through legendary deeds.

Male names: Aiden, Banagher, Bruhul, Connacht, Goran, Gwydd, Liam, Rafer, Seann, Tialfi, Tynan

Female names: Caolan, Donelle, Fionn, Ianna, Kella, Kiara, Maeryn, Nuala, Sinead, Torrin, Una

==Adventurers==
Krônians are not often found adventuring outside their homeland. Because every day is a struggle for survival, most Krônians feel that their place is amongst their people, and to leave would be deserting them. Those that do wander forth, however, are known for their ferocity in combat, and their rough manners in social dealings. They are usually found amongst crowds of adventurers, and far from the heights of culture and politics.

==Racial Traits==

* +2 Strength, −2 Intelligence, −2 Charisma: Krônians are physically powerful, but ignorant about the knowledge and social expectations of society outside their homeland.
* Humanoid
* Medium: As Medium creatures, Krônians have no special bonuses or penalties due to their size.
* Krônian [[base land speed]] is 30 feet.
* +2 Will saves: Krônians have an incredibly strong will because of their harsh life, and are mentally resistent to spells and persuasion.
* +2 Knowledge (Nature), Knowledge (Geography)
* +4 Climb: Krônians all spend much time scaling the rocky cliffs of Krôn to forage for food and scout for danger, and are excellent climbers as a result.
* Low-Light Vision: A Krônian can see twice as far as a normal human in starlight, moonlight, torchlight, and similar conditions of poor illumination. He retains the ability to distinguish color and detail under these conditions.
* [[Automatic Languages]]: Common and Krônian. [[Bonus Languages]]: Orc, Goblin, Giant. Krônians that bother to learn another language almost always learn the language of an enemy.
* [[Favored Class]]: Barbarian.

==Vital Statistics==

{| class="d20" cellspacing="0" cellpadding="0"
|+ Table: Krônian Random Starting Ages
|- style="white-space: nowrap;"
! Adulthood || Simple || Moderate || Complex
|- style="white-space: nowrap;"
| 14 years || +1d4 || +1d6 || +2d6
|}

{| class="d20" cellspacing="0" cellpadding="0"
|+ Table: Krônian Aging Effects
|- style="white-space: nowrap;"
! Middle Age1 || Old2 || Venerable3 || Maximum Age
|- style="white-space: nowrap;"
| 45 years || 63 years || 80 years || +2d10 years
|- style="white-space: nowrap;"
| colspan="5" class="foot" |
# At middle age, −1 to Str, Dex, and Con; +1 to Int, Wis, and Cha.
# At old age, −2 to Str, Dex, and Con; +1 to Int, Wis, and Cha.
# At venerable age, −3 to Str, Dex, and Con; +1 to Int, Wis, and Cha.
|}

{| cellspacing="0" cellpadding="0" class="d20"
|-
|+ Table: Krônian Random Height and Weight
|- style="white-space: nowrap;"
! style="text-align: left;" | Gender || Base Height || Height Modifier || Base Weight || Weight Modifier
|- style="white-space: nowrap;"
| style="text-align: left;" | Male || 4' 10" || +2d12 || 130 lb. || × (2d6) lb.
|- class="even" style="white-space: nowrap;"
| style="text-align: left;" | Female || 4' 5" || +2d12 || 95 lb. || × (2d4) lb.
|}

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== Confusing Edit ==

On [[Snake (4e Creature)]] you recently added [[Template:Wikify]] with the following explanation (and I quote): ''The ":" should not be in the Encounter Groups (see preload or Books for reference). Instead an extra line should be added. Also either a breadcrumb should be added or the current "Back To" footer condensed ("by Level" etc).'' I am not entirely sure what you're trying to say here. There is no colon anywhere in the Encounter Groups section, nor could I find anything else in that section that seemed off, much less something that warranted the template. The second part is also poorly worded, and all I pulled out of it is that you want me to change the Back To footers in some manner. Please clarify what you want changed, as I really am at a loss O.o --[[User:Dracomortis|Dracomortis]] 18:44, 9 September 2009 (MDT)

:I edited the page. If you look at my last edit does that clear up any confusion? --[[User:Green Dragon|Green Dragon]] 00:56, 10 September 2009 (MDT)

::Oh, I see what happened. You mentioned the Encounter Groups section, but you actually meant the Lore sections. I feel I should point out, however, that the colons are part of the preload and not something that I specifically added. Might be worth removing them from the preload if it is preferred that they not be added. Also, on the issue of the Back To footer, did you mean that instead of this:
::Back to [[Main Page]] → [[4e Homebrew|Homebrew]] → [[4e Creatures|Creatures]] → [[4e User Creatures by Level|User Creatures by Level]] → [[4e Level 3 Creatures|Level 3 Creatures]].
::It should be condensed to this:
::Back to [[Main Page]] → [[4e Homebrew|Homebrew]] → [[4e Creatures|Creatures]] → [[4e User Creatures by Level|User Creatures by Level]]
::If so, that's another minor error you might want to look into, as the preload includes the former example and not the latter. Thanks for the clarification. -- [[User:Dracomortis|Dracomortis]] 12:46, 10 September 2009 (MDT)

:::Oh, your right. I meant the lore section instead, sorry. I must have not been thinking at the time. Although the colons have been removed from the preload for quite some while now ([http://www.dandwiki.com/w/index.php?title=4e_Creature_Preload&diff=next&oldid=287610]). If you store a old copy of the preload on your computer you may want to update it (of course not using the old table and switching to the template (which needs to be updated on the preload sometime). And for the breadcrumb I would just use [[Template:4e Creatures Level 7 Breadcrumb]], etc. --[[User:Green Dragon|Green Dragon]] 14:00, 10 September 2009 (MDT)

::::Ah, that would be the problem then — I've had my copy of the preload saved for several months now. I've added a breadcrumb for each CR on the page (something I normally do but must have forgotten on that page). Thanks again for taking the time to clarify what needed to be changed. --[[User:Dracomortis|Dracomortis]] 22:17, 13 September 2009 (MDT)

:::::Ya, I know what you mean. I would imagine another main reason is because the template for the creatures is not added as well. --[[User:Green Dragon|Green Dragon]] 12:33, 15 September 2009 (MDT)

== Userpage Gallery Clean Up ==

Noticed you hadn't gotten around to organizing the gallery on your user page. I will probably arrange them for you soon if you don't find the time. As a professional artist myself, a clean gallery is a must. Oh, and your talk page is super long and has a million MOI's on it. Time to clean your room GD. Hehe. --[[User:Jay Freedman|Jay Freedman]] 17:50, 15 September 2009 (MDT)(The OCD guy.)

:Ya, I know. I always clean my userpage with time (see all the archives). Also, I find that the current layout of the pictures has a nice artistic touch; I find the placement to not only invoke thought and wonder but also stretch the images. Although, to be honest, they are slowly getting old on my userpage and I may remove them soon. --[[User:Green Dragon|Green Dragon]] 10:48, 16 September 2009 (MDT)

::Sounds good. You da' boss. --[[User:Jay Freedman|Jay Freedman]] 17:04, 18 September 2009 (MDT)

:::It's my userpage... You are in charge of your userpage. --[[User:Green Dragon|Green Dragon]] 20:22, 19 September 2009 (MDT)

== Recent Tavern Changes ==

Hey, what happened to the tavern? It simply is not working, and the search doesn't seem to be working the same either. Changes? {{Unsigned|Dumai|17:52, 17 September 2009 (MDT)}}

:I need to get a bit more RAM to be able to get the Tavern back up and running with the servers. Most likely I will spend some of the google ads money on buying some more RAM. --[[User:Green Dragon|Green Dragon]] 20:53, 17 September 2009 (MDT)

::What kind of funds need to be raised? Perhaps a fundraiser like years ago?  [[User:Hooper|''' Hooper ''']][[User talk:Hooper|  talk  ]][[Special:Contributions/Hooper|  contribs  ]][[Special:Emailuser/Hooper|  email  ]] 20:54, 17 September 2009 (MDT)

:::I was planning on using some google ads money for RAM but if people think that a little fundraiser should be organized as well I am more then willing. --[[User:Green Dragon|Green Dragon]] 20:57, 17 September 2009 (MDT)

::::I'm sure every bit could help. $5 and $10 here and there can't hurt at least.  [[User:Hooper|''' Hooper ''']][[User talk:Hooper|  talk  ]][[Special:Contributions/Hooper|  contribs  ]][[Special:Emailuser/Hooper|  email  ]] 20:59, 17 September 2009 (MDT)

:::::Maybe we could have a vote and see if more users like the tavern or not. Thoughts? --[[User:Green Dragon|Green Dragon]] 20:22, 19 September 2009 (MDT)

::::::It could be a good idea. I like the ''idea'' of a wiki chat, but in practice it was nothing more than a distraction from the actual wiki. Voting would be good, especially if removing the tavern could assist in site performance.  [[User:Hooper|''' Hooper ''']][[User talk:Hooper|  talk  ]][[Special:Contributions/Hooper|  contribs  ]][[Special:Emailuser/Hooper|  email  ]] 20:29, 19 September 2009 (MDT)

:::::::It is my solemn opinion that the Tavern Chat system should be repaired and remain. My love for it is unconditional, despite the fact that it tends to be immature in many ways and attract the least virtuous of viewers it was a place I could always count on to give me some source of entertainment or conversation, however minimal. One of the greatest delights I had when I used to frequent this site, as I am beginning to do again presently, was popping onto the Tavern in the middle of looking through articles and thinking about what would be useful in a future campaign. I would always find a witty conversationalist or a helpful tinkerer out and about amidst all of the chaos, and it helped to know I was not alone. The Tavern, in my opinion, is a reinforcement of the comradeship of this Wiki, and can be utilized to go there for quick instant messaging communication instead of relatively sluggish editing of each others pages. My piece has been said for now, and my vote is for keeping the Tavern. --[[User:Harry Mason|Harry Mason]] 15:22, 25 September 2009 (MDT)

::::::::Taking the above, and giving it thought, The Tavern can be a great tool. Especially if the former abrasive temperaments are no longer present, it can be a really great way to bring in new wiki users. Combing through the old logs shows that many potential users were ran off because of the attitude within it. But as Harry shows above, even with that it did great things. Perhaps we should place this discussion on "hold" until the tavern is ready to come back online, and then hold it in a better place so all can discuss ways to make the tavern better and more manageable?  [[User:Hooper|''' Hooper ''']][[User talk:Hooper|  talk  ]][[Special:Contributions/Hooper|  contribs  ]][[Special:Emailuser/Hooper|  email  ]] 15:30, 25 September 2009 (MDT)

:::::::::Bullocks. The crowd that used the tavern (with a few notable exceptions) constantly strayed off-topic, and it came out as bunch of sentence fragments that tried to be witty and failed miserably. Especially TK's "Your mama" jokes, for instance.... I go on there looking for feedback on my work, and everybody would rather take cheap shots than actually offer constructive advice. Although I hate to say it, but for all his snide attitude, Surgo did point me toward Frank Trollman's material... --[[User:Mythos Specialist|Mythos]] 02:56, 28 September 2009 (MDT)

::::::::::Well do you guys think it helped more or hurt more? All we need to do is vote... It is all opinion; nothing to discuss. --[[User:Green Dragon|Green Dragon]] 13:27, 28 September 2009 (MDT)

:::::::::::It has been discontinued. See also [[Discussion:The Tavern: use, expansion, and availability.]]. --[[User:Green Dragon|Green Dragon]] 04:17, 16 February 2010 (UTC)

== Recent Activity Lessening? ==

Do we even have anybody left who still posts here? Besides us three, that is... --[[User:Mythos Specialist|Mythos]] 10:59, 18 September 2009 (MDT)

:Yes, the site has been just as active lately as ever, only the 'tavern crowd' is gone. The site is improving on a daily basis and will continue to do so. In the last 30 days alone there have been over 42 active users (plus plenty of IP edits), so yes, yes we are very active considering.  [[User:Hooper|''' Hooper ''']][[User talk:Hooper|  talk  ]][[Special:Contributions/Hooper|  contribs  ]][[Special:Emailuser/Hooper|  email  ]] 11:05, 18 September 2009 (MDT)

::Thank God. I hated having to go in there to ask for feedback and getting sarcastic commentary. Maybe it's funny to the younger users, but to an old-timer like myself it seemed pretty juvenile and pointless. -- [[User:Mythos Specialist|Mythos]] 13:09, 19 September 2009 (MDT)

:::Same here. I put up with it for years but recently started treating them the same way they treat others and they literally can not handle it. They freak out. Really pathetic actually. I hope this helps others learn how to be properly collaborative in the future.  [[User:Hooper|''' Hooper ''']][[User talk:Hooper|  talk  ]][[Special:Contributions/Hooper|  contribs  ]][[Special:Emailuser/Hooper|  email  ]] 15:44, 19 September 2009 (MDT)

== Media's Mediawiki ==

In going through the media side of the site, I've noticed many users have basically used it as a personal storage unit. It is filled with images that are not used in any articles whatsoever (though unlike wikipedia our images don't always say what pages link to them, odd...). I was wondering if a purging of the mediawiki would help improve the server performance?  [[User:Hooper|''' Hooper ''']][[User talk:Hooper|  talk  ]][[Special:Contributions/Hooper|  contribs  ]][[Special:Emailuser/Hooper|  email  ]] 14:52, 18 September 2009 (MDT)

:I concur. Many of the images I uploaded, (as awesome as the are), are no longer linked to an article. It certainly sounds like a good idea. --[[User:Jay Freedman|Jay Freedman]] 16:58, 18 September 2009 (MDT)

::No. --[[User:Green Dragon|Green Dragon]] 20:20, 19 September 2009 (MDT)

== Possible Ban Circumvention ==

I think [[User:Ghostwheel|Ghostwheel]] has already paid enough and his ban is over in two day, amybe we could unblock him so he can actually tell his version of the facts? I don't want to do it myself in case you disagreed, it why I ask. --[[User:Lord Dhazriel|Dhazriel]] 18:42, 18 September 2009 (MDT)

:I strongly disagree with this. Firstly, there is no side of any story, as it was just a personal subpage note. Secondly, he showed his lack of respect to honor the ban when he broke policy and posted using his IP. If anything, his ban should be prolonged for that reason alone.  [[User:Hooper|''' Hooper ''']][[User talk:Hooper|  talk  ]][[Special:Contributions/Hooper|  contribs  ]][[Special:Emailuser/Hooper|  email  ]] 18:47, 18 September 2009 (MDT)

::You're both mistaken. With Check User [[User:Ghostwheel|Ghostwheel]] has not been posting. Or which IP do you mean? --[[User:Green Dragon|Green Dragon]] 18:53, 18 September 2009 (MDT)

:::He admitted to it on Surgo's page on the other wiki as well as on another user's page there. I would link, but don't want to spam, as I feel as though that may be.  [[User:Hooper|''' Hooper ''']][[User talk:Hooper|  talk  ]][[Special:Contributions/Hooper|  contribs  ]][[Special:Emailuser/Hooper|  email  ]] 18:56, 18 September 2009 (MDT)

::::All I would need is the IP... It's called "Chck User" (please use google at this moment if you are not positive as to what I am talking about). --[[User:Green Dragon|Green Dragon]] 20:19, 19 September 2009 (MDT)

== Green Dragon and I ==

This may seem redundant to you ''(GD)'' and I, but I thought it would be good to note that we are not the same individual, do not always agree (nor even agree a lot of the times), nor do we even know each other offline. Before the rumors get started, even though some already have.  [[User:Hooper|''' Hooper ''']][[User talk:Hooper|  talk  ]][[Special:Contributions/Hooper|  contribs  ]][[Special:Emailuser/Hooper|  email  ]] 18:56, 18 September 2009 (MDT)

:I don't know you... --[[User:Green Dragon|Green Dragon]] 22:42, 18 September 2009 (MDT)

== Removing Template:Author ==

Would you please refrain from removing author templates from (my) articles? Whether or not they've priorly been marked for deletion, they should remain associated with their respective principal authors, as per article 4B of [[D&D Wiki:Copyrights|D&D Wiki:Copyrights]]. Thank you. --[[User:Sulacu|Sulacu]] 00:01, 19 September 2009 (MDT)

:History as well... As explained over and over again. --[[User:Green Dragon|Green Dragon]] 20:17, 19 September 2009 (MDT)

::And I am asking you over and over again to refrain from removing the author templates. Being the person identified in the history of these particular pages as the first editor makes this request more than reasonable. --[[User:Sulacu|Sulacu]] 08:04, 20 September 2009 (MDT)

:::It seems you decided to respond to my aforementioned reasonable request by making [http://www.dandwiki.com/w/index.php?title=Ghast%2C_Deathless_%283.5e_Creature%29&oldid=415512 this] and several other similar edits to my pages, in which you removed yet more author boxes and more references to my personal user category from my pages. What, are you just going to ignore me and merrily continue this scandalous behaviour instead without the courtesy of a direct response? I don't remotely care how much 'cleaner' you think the history is, I will not stand for seeing my work vandalized. ''Not even by site admins! Am I finally getting through to you?''
:::If you want to erase all evidence of my existence from this wiki for what happened back in August, then fine. Delete all my stuff. ''All of it.'' And I'll be happy to stay gone. If you're unwilling to do that, then don't touch it. I expected such sensible and gentlemanly conduct to go without saying, but apparently the word ethics does not mean a thing to you. This is the last time I will ask you this in a civil manner. --[[User:Sulacu|Sulacu]] 12:57, 26 September 2009 (MDT)

::::Usercontributions. Like how one looks at my contributions to some articles. History. This is to see who has done what to which article. One more non-logical response and I will issue a ban to you. --[[User:Green Dragon|Green Dragon]] 13:41, 26 September 2009 (MDT)

:::::"''Usercontributions. Like how one looks at my contributions to some articles. History. This is to see who has done what to which article.''"
:::::... What are these sentence fragments even supposed to mean? The only responses I see that are incoherent and devoid of any logic are yours. Are you just being deliberately vague so you'd have a solid excuse to ban me when I respond? That's not to say that I ''ever'' saw ''anyone'' getting ''anything'' close to a ban for 'non-logic' back when I signed onto this wiki in May 2007. I never saw anyone getting their author box deleted from their articles back then either. Even omitting the fact that the author boxes disappear from my articles, what possible justification could you have for deleting my ''personal user-based category'' (<nowiki>[[Category:User Sulacu]]</nowiki>) from the article pages as well? That's like taking pages out of my user page's dpl lists. Isn't that like undermining the system of my pages on your wiki, as well as a form of 'orphaning pages' or whatever it is called (hence, 'vandalism', if you're too logic-deficient to see where I'm going)?
:::::Seriously, I've had more than enough of your stupid antics, and your pigheaded falling back upon your new favorite word, 'non-logic', which you seem to invoke primarily when people say something you don't like. As a faithful and dedicated contributor to your wiki for over two whole years, and the creator of over three hundred standing pages of homebrew articles currently displayed on the site, please honor my final request to leave those pages be, and stop being such a freaking bludger. A little admission on your side will make this whole affair a lot less smelly, and both our lives a lot easier. --[[User:Sulacu|Sulacu]] 14:27, 26 September 2009 (MDT)

::::::Banned. One needs to be understand civility and understand who is who on D&D Wiki. Stop just pestering people and making problems where none exist. --[[User:Green Dragon|Green Dragon]] 13:25, 28 September 2009 (MDT)

:::::::Out of curiosity, why was Sulacu banned? She was obviously upset that her name was being removed from the things that she had created, so it's not like she did anything wrong. I mean, I know I've not been here a long time, but Sulacu seems to have posted a high amount of quality homebrew, so shouldn't she be entitled to have her name on what she's made? I guess it may just be thinking aloud though. But really, consider if someone should be banned for voicing objections to losing the right to the things they made. I think a good example is if say someone took the Dandwiki from you Green, and removed every trace of you from it. Wouldn't you be upset and slightly protest against it? Obviously I'm not saying that that should happen, but I feel that it is a good example. Please reconsider this flurry of author removals, people merely just want to keep their name on what they've devoted time and effort into. --[[User:Dersius|Dersius]] 16:11, 28 September 2009 (MDT)

::::::::Although I won't comment on the ban, as far as comparing having a wiki that GD pays to maintain and content that a user freely posts online, it isn't really a good example.  [[User:Hooper|''' Hooper ''']][[User talk:Hooper|  talk  ]][[Special:Contributions/Hooper|  contribs  ]][[Special:Emailuser/Hooper|  email  ]] 18:03, 28 September 2009 (MDT)

:::::::::For the last time or your getting banned too; it's history and usercontributions. --[[User:Green Dragon|Green Dragon]] 20:57, 28 September 2009 (MDT)

::::::::::What? Is this really what it's come to? I've never talked to you before and you are threatening to ban me for attempting to give my opinion and suggestions on something? Isn't this supposed to be a community-run site? I'm sorry, I'm just a little confused as to why it's suddenly everyone being banned for speaking. You didn't even answer my question, so obviously you are ignoring the average user, which isn't the path that any admin should take. If you feel like being a dictator and banning everyone, go ahead. Go ahead and ban every last person that brought quality work to this wiki. Go ahead and ban until there's no one left except for your butt-buddy troll Hooper and yourself. I'm through here. It used to be a nice place to come to and the community was friendly, and the few times you stopped in the tavern, it was nice to talk to you. What happened to you? Whatever. It doesn't matter. This wiki is going downhill in quality, I just think you are blind to it right now, but you'll realize it here soon. Hooper, I know you are probably reading this too. Stop instigating things over at the Wikia. If you leave us alone, we'll leave you alone. I know I personally just want this whole thing to end and for the separation to be finished quickly and painlessly. With that note, I fully expect to be banned by the dictatorship that this wiki has turned into. Just remember, the First Amendment is in place to protect the unpopular opinion, and you are crushing it beneath your heel by banning everyone who isn't Hooper. Just remember that you ruined your wiki by driving off those that kept it running smoothly. --[[User:Dersius|Dersius]] 20:12, 28 September 2009.

:::::::::<code>"''... butt-buddy troll Hooper ...''", and "''What happened to you?''" (direct rudeness: name-calling, ill-considered accusations of impropriety) (1:1).''</code> --[[User:Green Dragon|Green Dragon]] 04:17, 16 February 2010 (UTC)

:::::::::::I have never said anything to anyone from wikia in my life. You don't know me — don't say that. --[[User:Green Dragon|Green Dragon]] 21:17, 28 September 2009 (MDT)

::::::::::::He said that Hooper was instigating things at wikia.. Geez, if this is the way the administration of this site is I'm not going to put my homebrew on here, I'm going to make sure the people I know don't ruin their work by having it stolen by this wiki. {{Unsigned|121.44.216.33|10:24, 29 September 2009 (UTC)}}

:::::::::::::As I haven't even visited the other in seemingly forever, and you guys are here still causing problems - well, you get the picture. Are you done calling people who don't know each other "butt buddys" while also calling them the trolls ''(??? - Irony?)'' so that we can get back to work? You state ''"If you leave us alone, we'll leave you alone."'' yet here you are, when no one is messing with you. Either contribute or stop starting problems. Thanks in advance for your cooperation.  [[User:Hooper|''' Hooper ''']][[User talk:Hooper|  talk  ]][[Special:Contributions/Hooper|  contribs  ]][[Special:Emailuser/Hooper|  email  ]] 06:34, 29 September 2009 (MDT)

{{Discussion Indentation Revert}}

:I don't have any take on Sulacu or any other user on this site, really. I only came in and started editing recently, after all, myself. I have been thinking on this for a while, though. Why ''exactly'' is author information being taken off of pages? Watch and History are reasonably insufficient in accrediting the idea of a creature or idea to authors, even if not so terribly important. Since it's homebrew, anyways, I am sure it's not so bad to afford someone that little bit of pride in seeing their name in the author template of their articles. Also, which articles are subject to this? So far, I've only ever seen creatures having their templates removed, which I don't quite understand. [[User:Jwguy|Jwguy]] 01:42, 6 November 2009 (MST)

::I never said anyone was doing anything on Wikia. I could care less about Wikia — people going to a different site is not a war in my mind. D&D Wiki (about now) averages 8,000 unique visitors a day — I don't care about you. A war is a war in my mind. Think about logically — why would I care? As long as you guys do not transfer any content from D&D Wiki to Wikia (all the content here is under the GNU FDL v1.2 - putting it under the CC is a violation of the law and liable to be sued) or doing anything related (please see the GNU FDL - I, as the owner of D&D Wiki have the rights, additionally I, as the owner, can invoke aspects of the GNU FDL v1.2 as I wish too).
::And why is the author template being removed? It hinders reading, and hinders a wiki-structure (editing for improvement not just saying "mine mine mine", etc.) Most people, before editing, do check history and before use many do too (seeing something from an IP is less likely as something, say, which comes from an established user). It just hurts the wiki - removing it helps the overall structure. --[[User:Green Dragon|Green Dragon]] 13:19, 6 November 2009 (MST)

:::I personally feel as though the author template adds a bit of authenticity to articles of homebrew. Sure, while in some cases, items simply are corrupted or bettered by the many anonymous edits that are to be expected on the internet, but in other cases, it's a nice gesture of pride to find an idea or page that you're proud of, and have your name sitting at the top. All as well, while I may not agree, It's not important, and I suppose I can understand that as a sufficient reason. Thank you for answering. [[User:Jwguy|Jwguy]] 19:50, 6 November 2009 (MST)

::::(Haha, Jwguy is editing in above me.) Hopefully the author box will be completely removed from all articles and preloads. This is a Wiki. No article submitted to the site is considered static and unchanging. Should you wish to keep your pet projects to yourself, do not submit them here. Under every edit box are the words "''If you don't want your writing to edited mercilessly and redistributed at will, then don't submit it here.''" You have been warned and forewarned. Author boxes are a privilege, not a right. Again, hopefully they will be universally removed. --[[User:Jay Freedman|Jay Freedman]] 15:54, 6 November 2009 (MST)

:::::Okay, I agree that's it a kind of a gesture of pride to see ones username on a page... But it's also a wiki. However another reason for the removed I see is that it creates editing problems. For example sometimes when I am playing I print something out, correct it, however do not change it since I do not want to have to talk to that author about it. If I was not the owner (rather a standard user or IP) I imagine I would feel more inclined and accepted to change it freely. I feel it creates more freedom for the perfection of content. However I see both sides. Currently I removed them from 4e deities, 4e races, and the preload for 4e creatures (and a few their). Personally I would like to wait a matter of months and see how those sections respond. Already I have seen positive improvements from the 4e deities section by IP's - which is a good sign - however it is still to early to say. --[[User:Green Dragon|Green Dragon]] 20:39, 6 November 2009 (MST)

::::::Sorry, it was my understanding from most of the wikis that I've been that the colon indentation is used to identify who is replying to whom, as well as keep track of subject. I read your post, Jay, but simply had nothing to say about it, so I went ahead and continued to reply towards Green Dragon's last post, which is the reason for the way I posted. I had assumed this was normal.
::::::That said, I don't mind, either way. I appreciate you taking the time to appease my curiousity on this matter, however, Green dragon. As said, I like the idea of the authenticity and author templates, but they don't matter so much as to fight over them, to me. If it comes down to it, I'll go around taking them down, myself; I just wanted to get the reasoning for it before I conjectured any of my own, which you've provided, certainly. I can realize what problems you see for it, and they are well based and reasonable for it's exclusion, so really it's just my opinion that differs. Functionality is more important when it comes to this kind of site, I believe, and pride, while a encouraging thing as well, is subservient to that. [[User:Jwguy|Jwguy]] 21:49, 6 November 2009 (MST)

:::::::@ Jwguy. No problem bro. I figured you had a good reason anyway. Thanks for being so vocal about your opinions. Your not the only one who feels the way you do. Keep up the good work. Peace! --[[User:Jay Freedman|Jay Freedman]] 22:33, 6 November 2009 (MST)

== Why Did You Delete the Bloodline I Posted? ==

I'd like to know why you deleted the optional Bloodline (Brachyurus) I developed and posted.

The only comment I see, and its only a single line in the deletion log, is "This is not OGL".

I would appreciate ''some'' explanation. At the very least, the minimum courtesy of informing me. To top it off, you ''also'' deleted the Discussion topic I started in which I asked for any feedback.

If you don't want new people posting anything, just say so. --[[User:Reddir|reddir]] 21:29, 21 September 2009 (MDT).

:It is from the [[Epic Level Handbook]], right? --[[User:Green Dragon|Green Dragon]] 23:00, 21 September 2009 (MDT)

::It is also, according to your [[SRD:Brachyurus]], in the SRD? And the Bloodline was entirely my own construction; I am not aware of anything similar that has been published. None of which explains why you would delete the Discussion where I ask for feedback - a perfect place, I would think, to have this discussion. --[[User:Reddir|reddir]] 23:58, 21 September 2009 (MDT)

:::That's ones not from the [[Epic Level Handbook]]... That's SRD (probably MM or who knows). If the bloodlines was your ''own'' creation ''DO NOT'' put "this is from the [[Epic Level Handbook]]" on the bottom of the page. Also [[DnD Discussion|Discussions]] are for ''questions'' (not like a forum...). If you want something reviewed, like always, post it on the talk page. Not there. --[[User:Green Dragon|Green Dragon]] 16:19, 22 September 2009 (MDT)

::::You are saying that you really thought I copied the bloodline from the Epic Level Handbook? Have you seen the UA style Bloodlines ''anywhere'' but in UA? And does that mean you did not even bother reading what I had written on the Talk page before you deleted it all?
::::Anyway, are you saying you would be fine with me posting the Brachyurus Bloodline I designed if I make it clear that I was the one who put it together?
::::re: Discussions, ok, I hadn't realized it was not a forum. Still, I would have appreciated ''some'' information ''somewhere'' about why you deleted my work. --[[User:Reddir|reddir]] 16:48, 22 September 2009 (MDT)

:::::This is what I saw:
:::::<nowiki> ==== Brachyurus ====</nowiki>
:::::<nowiki> </nowiki>
:::::<nowiki> [[SRD:Brachyurus|Brachyurus]] is the Platonic wolf/canine from the Epic Level Handbook. </nowiki>
:::::<nowiki> {| class="{{d20}}" style="text-align: left;"</nowiki>
:::::<nowiki> |+ {{#anc:Brachyurus Bloodline Traits}}</nowiki>
:::::(from a deleted revisions preview). Or is that part just superficial? --[[User:Green Dragon|Green Dragon]] 23:02, 23 September 2009 (MDT)

::::::Should I assume you noticed the "SRD:Brachyurus|Brachyurus" portion of what you quoted? --[[User:Reddir|reddir]] 23:11, 23 September 2009 (MDT)

:::::::That's called a piped link... Not sure if you have ever heard of formatting or not. --[[User:Green Dragon|Green Dragon]] 23:33, 23 September 2009 (MDT)

::::::::It seems clear that you are taking the issues behind this discussion much less seriously than I am. Therefore I will stop wasting my time with you. --[[User:Reddir|reddir]] 23:52, 23 September 2009 (MDT)

:::::::::That is a PIPED link. Without the piped link it looks like: "Brachyurus is the Platonic wolf/canine from the Epic Level Handbook."... let's see... can that be here? --[[User:Green Dragon|Green Dragon]] 13:23, 28 September 2009 (MDT)

::::::::::I should have read what you were saying more carefully. I am sorry for this misunderstanding, it was my fault. It has now been restored. --[[User:Green Dragon|Green Dragon]] 19:54, 21 June 2010 (UTC)

== Prestige Classes Rating ==

My Void Knight prestige class now has 2 ratings (3 if my own counts), and I was just wondering how/when exactly the unrated classes were relisted as rated. [[User:Desril|Desril]] 15:09, 30 September 2009 (MDT)

:Really it is just a matter of doing the switch. You can alter that yourself.  [[User:Hooper|''' Hooper ''']][[User talk:Hooper|  talk  ]][[Special:Contributions/Hooper|  contribs  ]][[Special:Emailuser/Hooper|  email  ]] 18:46, 27 September 2009 (MDT)

::Once all the ratings have been added one can. Although one cannot just create rating; [[User:Hooper|Hooper]] should have said that one can correct the ratings from the talk page onto the articles page. --[[User:Green Dragon|Green Dragon]] 19:41, 27 September 2009 (MDT)

:::Yes, after reading my post I should clarify that once rated you can add that information to the class page with the proper rating it was given shown.  [[User:Hooper|''' Hooper ''']][[User talk:Hooper|  talk  ]][[Special:Contributions/Hooper|  contribs  ]][[Special:Emailuser/Hooper|  email  ]] 07:14, 28 September 2009 (MDT)

::::Also, if you want to help rate things, please feel free. --[[User:Green Dragon|Green Dragon]] 13:21, 28 September 2009 (MDT)

== Tome of Fiends Spheres ==

The sphere pages connected to the Tome of Fiends, namely the Bone, Venom, Carnage and Bubbles, I believe, that you have already reverted, are ''not'', to my knowledge thus far, User items, and are in the sourcebook. Adding the User Category, on that level, is not necessary, nor correct, and it also interferes with the function on the page for the [[Tome of Fiends (3.5e Sourcebook)/Spheres and Feats#Fiendish Spheres|Spheres]] listing, which has been separated so that User-made Spheres and Official Spheres from the Sourcebook can be better recognized.

If you feel that you are undeniably correct in maintaining that the Spheres you are moving are User made and that perhaps I have been mistaken, please state so and proceed, but if not, and I believe they are not, they should be as they were before the reverting. [[User:Jwguy|Jwguy]] 23:17, 27 September 2009 (MDT)

:Tome Material is not official material from established publisers or OGL — it is just homebrew Frank & K stuff. Thus, it is User content. It is hard to define something as "official" when it is all entirely user homebrew — even if that user homebrew is well established.  [[User:Hooper|''' Hooper ''']][[User talk:Hooper|  talk  ]][[Special:Contributions/Hooper|  contribs  ]][[Special:Emailuser/Hooper|  email  ]] 07:13, 28 September 2009 (MDT)

::Well could we use that Tome article as the rule source? --[[User:Green Dragon|Green Dragon]] 13:21, 28 September 2009 (MDT)

:::This is, admittedly, true, given the nature of the Tome of Fiends, itself. Even in that case, however, the Tome of Fiends has no user category, and as a sourcebook, I use 'official' to simply designate those spheres which were created along with the sourcebook. I feel it would be best to separate the Homebrew'd spheres, in respect to the Tome, from those included by the authors, if only to maintain that the standard provided by the author shouldn't be confused with the likely standards of added-in spheres.
:::That all said and done, I could simply use another category, which I don't have much of a problem with; I'm rather delightfully partial to the Tome of Fiends, myself, and the Spheres even more. I just want to get it looking nice and neat, and without as much clutter and fully distinguishing their authors. So, that said, what is going to be used for the categories? [[User:Jwguy|Jwguy]] 21:10, 28 September 2009 (MDT)

::::[[:Category:User]] is present since it "fits" into the homebrew area. No matter how you look at it this is the case, see also [[3.5e Open Game Content]]. --[[User:Green Dragon|Green Dragon]] 20:02, 21 June 2010 (UTC)

== WikiRPS ==

I saw you had did some alterations to the navigation. I was wondering if a link to the WikiRPS site would help get some more activity over there? Or if you're even still interested in that. Just curious as to the goals/future of that project.  [[User:Hooper|''' Hooper ''']][[User talk:Hooper|  talk  ]][[Special:Contributions/Hooper|  contribs  ]][[Special:Emailuser/Hooper|  email  ]] 10:36, 28 September 2009 (MDT)

:They have their own wiki since a while now; [http://www.wikirps.org/wiki/Main_Page WikiRPS] (although using the same things, etc). I don't understand what your question is (see also [[3.5e Rules]]). --[[User:Green Dragon|Green Dragon]] 13:18, 28 September 2009 (MDT)

::Yes, I know they do. I guess my question is: "Do you think it would be beneficial to include a link to that wiki on our navigation here, perhaps near where we link to the media repository?"  [[User:Hooper|''' Hooper ''']][[User talk:Hooper|  talk  ]][[Special:Contributions/Hooper|  contribs  ]][[Special:Emailuser/Hooper|  email  ]] 13:48, 28 September 2009 (MDT)

:::We do. It's linked to from [[3.5e Rules]]; as discussed and implemented since a long time. --[[User:Green Dragon|Green Dragon]] 13:50, 28 September 2009 (MDT)

== Incorrect Adoptionations ==

Y HALO THAR. Recently I adopted a dozen or so pages because I have some future plans with them, and the original owner, Sulacu, is gone and all. I noticed you reversed those adoptions. Is something the matter, we're permitted to adopt unnamed and user-less articles are we not? Even more so if we actually have permission from the original owner? If you could redo those adoptions for me, that sure would be swell, it makes it easier to find when I don't have to comb through the history and just look up "User Eiji". Domo arigato desu desu desu-chan, ie! -- [[User:Eiji|Eiji]] 21:00, 1 October 2009 (MDT)

:Eiji, your recent discussions in the chat your splinter group is using showcases those adoptions as bad faith adoptions. However, even with that fact, I can't speak for GD's decision. I believe a previous editor said "just stay away and leave us alone" and that has been our wiki's attitude. I humbly request you follow suit. Thanks.  [[User:Hooper|''' Hooper ''']][[User talk:Hooper|  talk  ]][[Special:Contributions/Hooper|  contribs  ]][[Special:Emailuser/Hooper|  email  ]] 21:02, 1 October 2009 (MDT)

::Hi Hooper-desu! ''':D''' Well, it's very good faith actually, but the lower caste aren't supposed to talk to the upper caste. Wink wink, joke joke, nudge nudge. Anyway, I'm actually still active here (out of necessity, but that's a discussion for another time), so I can't leave.
::Anyway, awaitin' the Green Drag-man. I'll just leave this 'ere. -- [[User:Eiji|Eiji]] 21:11, 1 October 2009 (MDT)

:::As your most recent quote on the subject was the following: ''"the reason I'd adopt them is to keep GD's dirty mitts off them"'' as stated in your IRC channel, I'd say that clearly constitutes a bad faith adoption. Alas, however, GD shall tell us both how it went down, so I agree with your thoughts on waiting for him.  [[User:Hooper|''' Hooper ''']][[User talk:Hooper|  talk  ]][[Special:Contributions/Hooper|  contribs  ]][[Special:Emailuser/Hooper|  email  ]] 21:14, 1 October 2009 (MDT)

::::Where'd I say that? That's silly Hooper. -- [[User:Eiji|Eiji]] 21:16, 1 October 2009 (MDT)

:::::If GD requests it he will be shown proof of that and other things you've said of recent regarding the adoption. Ever since that chat channel decided to bring up the idea of using pirate software against this site I've daily logged on and pulled that day's chats from it. Thankfully, nothing as vile as the pirate attack threats has been discussed since.  [[User:Hooper|''' Hooper ''']][[User talk:Hooper|  talk  ]][[Special:Contributions/Hooper|  contribs  ]][[Special:Emailuser/Hooper|  email  ]] 21:18, 1 October 2009 (MDT)

::::::Of course not. You know, internet... it's full of people who talk for the hell of it, and talk is cheap. Why just yesterday I was claiming to be wearing a dress, when I was really wearing TWO dresses. ''':D''' But Hooper, we've gotten totally off the subject, so, for Green Dragon's sake I'm reseting the indent and reposting my point (I hope he doesn't mind). {{Unsigned|Eiji|20:23, 1 October 2009 (MDT)}}

:::::::Just placing my 2 cents Hooper but is it entirely ethical/legal to record and store chats without notifying those being recorded? Just wondering if perhaps playing secret agent in the chat room is the best use of your time which should be invested in this wiki, not in the wikia. Back on topic: if an article is up for adoption, what makes one user more or less worthy of adoption than another? One who has made as many contributions as Eiji is certainly able to competently handle an article, unless you are saying you trust a complete stranger to claim ownership of the article over an established contributor to this wiki. --[[User:Ehsteve|Ehsteve]] 21:34, 1 October 2009 (MDT)

::::::::You did it wrong... And D&D Wiki is fine; no malicious software should be able to do much of anything. --[[User:Green Dragon|Green Dragon]] 22:49, 1 October 2009 (MDT)

:::::::::Ah, I'm doing it wrong? Well then, how may I do it right so I can get them re-adopted? -- [[User:Eiji|Eiji]] 22:51, 1 October 2009 (MDT)

::::::::::Just don't. Just edit the damn things; it makes much much more sense (your name is added, what you did is shown, and you can create a link repository at a usersubpage of pages which ''relate'' to you, one can look with ''my watchlist'' the pages as they change, etc etc. [[Template:Author]] is just more of a hassle then much else (history; when created; does not change). --[[User:Green Dragon|Green Dragon]] 22:56, 1 October 2009 (MDT)

:::::::::::Explain that second part to me again? I'm trying to get the pages to appear on my User: Eiji page so I don't have to search through recent changes (also, I'd like credit for adopting them too, but I haven't bothered yet to look/copy paste the ownership box/dunno how to go about that). Anyway, the link repository is what I'm currently doing with my pages right, having them appear in my User: Eiji page automatically instead of linking them one by one. -- [[User:Eiji|Eiji]] 22:58, 1 October 2009 (MDT)

::::::::::::{{quote|...and you can create a link repository at a usersubpage of pages which ''relate'' to you...
|orig=--[[User:Green Dragon|Green Dragon]] 22:56, 1 October 2009 (MDT)
}}
::::::::::::--[[User:Green Dragon|Green Dragon]] 23:04, 1 October 2009 (MDT)

:::::::::::::Sorry, might be a little slow but... uh, I don't get it. Can you rephrase it in a different way, as right now it seems like you're saying we can't put things on our User page we didn't originally make and just adopted. Or... something, I'm not really sure. Thanks in advance. -- [[User:Eiji|Eiji]] 23:08, 1 October 2009 (MDT)

{{Discussion Indentation Revert}}

:Right; for example I have nothing (theoretically) to do with the images on my userpage. --[[User:Green Dragon|Green Dragon]] 23:16, 1 October 2009 (MDT)

::Oooh. Aww, that makes me sad... that means we aren't allowed to adopt anymore (at least, not in the normal sense of "I now own this", we can only edit... but then, so can everyone's else so it's a moot point). Well, there's nothing I can do. ''':(''' They were nice articles too.
::Oh well. /thread and all. -- [[User:Eiji|Eiji]] 23:18, 1 October 2009 (MDT)

:::Ya, but I find that usercontributions are much better then [[Template:Author]] and I find that when using history everything is much more fair then under the [[Template:Author]] system (each edit is that edit; not under someone elses' name). --[[User:Green Dragon|Green Dragon]] 23:22, 1 October 2009 (MDT)

::::To clarify, are you saying that the Author template is pointless to have on articles? Should we remove it from every article? --[[User:208.90.101.99|208.90.101.99]] 06:23, 2 October 2009 (MDT)

:::::I apologize -- that comment was out of line and pretty immature. I'm still a little sore over what happened and when I do visit this wiki (in this case I was responding to a private email about an optimized build I wrote a while back), I do the stupid thing of looking at the recent changes and get bothered by what is going on. This was my "home" for a long time after all. I can take a conversation up privately with you if you want to discuss why I think many of your actions are bad for the wiki, but needless to say, I sincerely hope that [[User:Green Dragon|Green Dragon]] does not make you an admin until your behavior changes. I say that out of my old dedication to this wiki, not my new found bitterness. But, as I said, this is something for a private conversation and doesn't belong here on GD's talk page.
:::::To restate my questions to GD: "Are you saying that the Author template is pointless to have on articles? Should we remove it from every article?" --[[User:Aarnott|Aarnott]] 07:53, 2 October 2009 (MDT)

::::::Thank you. I'm not seeking adminship, nor do I personally feel I need to be anything close to an admin, so I doubt such a conversation is necessary. [[User:Hooper|''' Hooper ''']][[User talk:Hooper|  talk  ]][[Special:Contributions/Hooper|  contribs  ]][[Special:Emailuser/Hooper|  email  ]] 07:57, 2 October 2009 (MDT)

:::::::They do seem to hinder articles at time; however that is a long process. I say we should work on things which are a little more handalable at the moment. Maybe with in the year or two; who knows. Or what are your opinions and thoughts? --[[User:Green Dragon|Green Dragon]] 22:43, 2 October 2009 (MDT)

== Attitudes ==

Well, something very strange is happening here... I'd say adopting things to keep them safe is in good faith, and it is my perhaps not very humble opinion that playing secret agent in a chatroom is quite unethical. Additionally, I think it's unethical to remove an author's name from the front of the page, since that's where the focus is, no matter where else information on the original author can be found. Furthermore, I agree with some arguments brought in against Green Dragon, seeing as he acts in a seemingly random manner, getting angry and threatening with bans for little reason.

I tried (much earlier) to reason with both parties, and GD didn't even answer. Not ever.

I'm taking my creations. I created them, so they are my property, and I do not care which laws you quote. According to some test and multiple real-life experiences, I turn out to be CG, and I cannot abide a regime like this. I shan't use guerilla tactics or whatever to negative effect for this wiki, because it is rather pointless; it will be dead by itself without my interference soon enough. To summarize, I take possession of my work, and I will not comply with any attempts to restore them.

Further reasons for abandoning this wiki include a disturbing lack of interest in discussion pages; no one has shown an interest in several things I pointed out in several different discussion pages, and rather few of my own things where commented upon (seeing as I mean to implement those things I find interesting or design myself, I'd like a little more discussion about things like balance and powerlevel). Another point is the apparent failure of internal consistency in at least some creatures of the animal type and a tendency not to do anything about it.

I bid you adieu. I expect my pages to remain gone when I have removed them, and I expect there will not be a problem with that. I have no need for either wiki laws or dictatorial outlashings (they should be mutually exclusive, but reality proves to be otherwise, ey?), and I shall not abide either. [[User:Deranged|Deranged]] 16:18, 2 October 2009 (MDT)

:Imitating behavior/harassment. Banned. Content is content, usercontributions are usercontributions, and history is history. --[[User:Green Dragon|Green Dragon]] 20:43, 3 October 2009 (MDT)

== Tavern Down ==

Why is the tavern not working, still?! It's been nearly three months? {{Unsigned|Zetsumeimaru|17:52, 3 October 2009 (MDT)}}

:I know... One of the servers got changed around a bit and as such the tavern is not configured right; another is that, as a discussion, we are not positive if we want a chat room. It seems to be there are differing opinions about. --[[User:Green Dragon|Green Dragon]] 20:40, 3 October 2009 (MDT)

::The Tavern has been discontinued. See also [[Discussion:The Tavern: use, expansion, and availability.]]. --[[User:Green Dragon|Green Dragon]] 20:33, 21 June 2010 (UTC)

== Prestige Classes Epic Section ==

:''Discussion moved to [[Talk:Omniarcanist of Caladon (3.5e Prestige Class)#Epic Section]] --[[User:Green Dragon|Green Dragon]] 14:18, 13 October 2009 (MDT).''

== Surgo's Deletions ==

I was just looking through some history and can I ask what MW is in reference to here:

"''I restored all of the deleted pages right after they were wrongly deleted. Please learn something about MW before posting here (it's comparable to '''clicking''' the links above and '''looking''' at them). --[[User:Green Dragon|Green Dragon]] 14:52, 10 September 2009 (MDT)''"

Thanks. --[[User:Sabre070|Sabre070]] 15:15, 15 October 2009 (MDT)

:MW is always MediaWiki. Where was this response? If you source it or supply a link I can better let you know what I meant. --[[User:Green Dragon|Green Dragon]] 20:06, 20 October 2009 (MDT)

::It is on [[Requests for Adminship/Surgo2|Surgo's 2nd nomination]] for adminship. --[[User:Sabre070|Sabre070]] 01:44, 22 October 2009 (MDT)

:::Surgo was not following the deletion policy. I had to restore pages he/she wrongly deleted. For this to make more sense to you maybe [http://www.dandwiki.com/w/index.php?title=Special:Log&type=delete&user=Surgo&page=&pattern=&limit=500&offset=0 this] is a better associated link (the blue links are restored - the red are deleted). If you see any other problems please let me know (where he/she deleted good content). --[[User:Green Dragon|Green Dragon]] 17:49, 25 October 2009 (MDT)

::::With the current deletion policy (that on [[:Category:Candidates for Deletion]]) he did not break any rules. It states: "In most cases 14 days after a page is nominated for deletion it will be deleted." Hence, there was no reason for those not to be deleted. Either that or you use the argument that it also says: "When nominating an incomplete page for deletion please make sure that it is not being actively improved upon." Which implies that it must be an incomplete page, though on a wiki nothing is ever complete so that cannot be an argument against it. I would like to know how you think that Surgo wasn't following the deletion policy and then we can amend it to make it clearer. --[[User:Sabre070|Sabre070]] 22:41, 25 October 2009 (MDT)

:::::The pages had zero reason to be deleted. Were nominated for deletion a day before and were deleted right after. That's breaking the rules. Watch out; or you'll get banned. I've explained this enough times. I'm done explaining it. --[[User:Green Dragon|Green Dragon]] 22:47, 25 October 2009 (MDT)

::::::Actually, you had never explained that on Surgo's nomination page (and I haven't seen it anywhere else). They were nominated for deletion at least two weeks before: Aug 13 2009 nomination and 4 September 2009 deletion for many of them. There reason for deletion was that the author did not want them on the wiki, in the past that has been accepted though after recent events it was decided un-officially that it would not be, this was not put on the deletion page. --[[User:Sabre070|Sabre070]] 23:08, 25 October 2009 (MDT)

:::::::Oh, your right about the times. That's probably why I did not say that on the nomination. It's because it is good content - one should never delete good content. "''I restored all of the deleted pages right after they were wrongly deleted.''" --[[User:Green Dragon|Green Dragon]] 23:19, 25 October 2009 (MDT)

::::::::I still think we need to clarify the deletion policy. Though my thoughts on the articles on this wiki are that they should be owned by the contributers and can be deleted by them if they wish. --[[User:Sabre070|Sabre070]] 05:03, 26 October 2009 (MDT)

:::::::::That's not how they are. They are under the GNU FDL "''If you don't want your writing to be edited mercilessly and redistributed at will, then don't submit it here.''" for example. If one reads the the GNU FDL 1.2 then you will see more as to what I am talking about. And the deletion time frame is a little variable — the important part is that no playable, good, etc content gets deleted. That's the main idea. If you read the "Adminship" message it explains deletion a bit from an admin side and the category explains deletion from a wiki-side. Please keep in mind that was just Surgo's 2nd adminship — not the reason for (h)im/er being banned. --[[User:Green Dragon|Green Dragon]] 15:03, 26 October 2009 (MDT)

== Edit Summary Question ==

You just told me what barnstars are, and I thank you, though I had guessed their purpose, 'twas a kind gesture. But I was wondering why you edited it with the summary "Discussions get archived not removed....". Would you care to elaborate on your reasoning, or was it not pertaining to me? --[[User:SgtLion|SgtLion]] 13:14, 20 October 2009 (MDT)

:Basically, don't just delete something from your page, archive it. --[[User:Sabre070|Sabre070]] 15:09, 20 October 2009 (MDT)

::Yes, you may not have noticed, but if you look at the actual [http://www.dandwiki.com/w/index.php?title=User_talk:SgtLion&diff=420227&oldid=420152 diff] in question, he re-added the welcome message you had previously removed. That was what he was actually talking about in the summary.  [[User:Hooper|''' Hooper ''']][[User talk:Hooper|  talk  ]][[Special:Contributions/Hooper|  contribs  ]][[Special:Emailuser/Hooper|  email  ]] 16:16, 20 October 2009 (MDT)

:::I replied and used the edit summary to explain my edit. --[[User:Green Dragon|Green Dragon]] 20:05, 20 October 2009 (MDT)

::::Ah, right, that was a mistake on my part. Thank you, everyone. --[[User:SgtLion|SgtLion]] 23:59, 20 October 2009 (MDT)

:::::No problem. --[[User:Green Dragon|Green Dragon]] 20:35, 21 June 2010 (UTC)

== Talosoi ==

A few days ago, I created the talosoi, a race of apelike people who live in dense jungles and ride giant wasps around. I decided to put it here, to share it with everyone else. But, since I didn't know anything about wiki formatting then, I put all of the separate types of talosoi as its own creature. Before I could realize my mistake, I put 6 new creatures on here, each of them a different talosoi (eg Talosoi Archer, Talosoi Shaman, Talosoi Chieftan, etc.). I wanted to know if there was anyway I could move all of those creatures to a single page. If was not, I would want to know if I could delete these pages and start again with the same creatures, but just under a different name (instead of talosoi, then it would be toldosoi or something like that). Thanks! {{Unsigned|Breo sabre|20:50, 21 October 2009 (MDT)}}

:If you merge them all onto one page (save the ones you cannot - the mounts; wasps, etc.) and add [[Template:Delete]] to the now merged ones it should cover your problem. Although one ''can'' "merge" all the pages together with their respective revision histories it's a long process and complicated; it's easier this way. --[[User:Green Dragon|Green Dragon]] 23:00, 21 October 2009 (MDT)

== D20 Modern/4e Material? ==

:''Discussion moved from [[User talk:Tabris#D20/4e Issues]]'' --[[User:Green Dragon|Green Dragon]] 17:42, 27 October 2009 (MDT)

Please do not move my weapon contributions (namely flashbang, phosphorus grenade and smoke bomb.) as they were not made for d20 modern but instead as homebrew weapons for the dnd 4e game which I DM for.

If there is a way to set my creations to private please let me know as I do not want my contributions to be edited at all. I like them as they are but I do not know how to change the editing options to locked/protected. {{Unsigned|Tabris|01:23, 27 October 2009 (MDT)}}

:Please read the warning when you are editing on the site. It reads as follows: ''"If you don't want your writing to be edited mercilessly and redistributed at will, then don't submit it here."''.  [[User:Hooper|''' Hooper ''']][[User talk:Hooper|  talk  ]][[Special:Contributions/Hooper|  contribs  ]][[Special:Emailuser/Hooper|  email  ]] 06:36, 27 October 2009 (MDT)

::Thats not helpful at all Hooper, I'm aware of this however my equipment is posted under 4e equipment for a reason: It's 4e equipment. {{Unsigned|Tabris|15:27, 27 October 2009 (MDT)}}

:::I believe that the reasons some of the pages have been misappropriated is that they were not all originally coded the way fourth edition material should of been, giving the appearance of D&D or D20 equipment. Admins are busy so it is easy to see how that may have been the issue. Anyways, please note that the identifier on the pages should read "(4e Equipment)" not "(4E Equipment)" and in the future I wouldn't edit war with an admin, just make a nice and simple explanation and ask why they think something is not what it is ''(i.e. in this case just ask what is giving GD the impression it is D20 equipment and then fix that before doing all this reverting)''. Just usually not a good idea to remove admin edits.  [[User:Hooper|''' Hooper ''']][[User talk:Hooper|  talk  ]][[Special:Contributions/Hooper|  contribs  ]][[Special:Emailuser/Hooper|  email  ]] 16:28, 27 October 2009 (MDT)

::::Please sign your posts using four tildes, like so: <nowiki>~~~~</nowiki>. Please see your talk page for more info.  [[User:Hooper|''' Hooper ''']][[User talk:Hooper|  talk  ]][[Special:Contributions/Hooper|  contribs  ]][[Special:Emailuser/Hooper|  email  ]] 16:29, 27 October 2009 (MDT)

:::::You can move them to a subuserpage of your userpage area; at most (keeping them 4e) and changing the templates around so they do not show up anywhere. Simply flashbang grenades, phosphorus grenades and smoke bombs do not fit into 4e. --[[User:Green Dragon|Green Dragon]] 17:42, 27 October 2009 (MDT)

::::::I moved them back to 4e. 4e will be considered a rule set I guess with nothing to do with a time frame. --[[User:Green Dragon|Green Dragon]] 20:46, 21 June 2010 (UTC)

== Designating Overdeity ==

Hey, I got a question about the deities. When making them, I'm confused about how to write the "What type of god is it" part. If you look Saran up, you see on the page, there is that error, I need help on that. Thanks! {{Unsigned|CelticHippie|20:17, 28 October 2009 (MDT)}}

:That should help. See the diff in question to see the edit change. --[[User:Green Dragon|Green Dragon]] 21:52, 28 October 2009 (MDT)

== Canidates for Deletion ==

Hey GD. I was looking through some of the articles in the Deletion Catagory. There are more than a few that have been unedited and abandoned for many months. I say this because I have about 15 articles I made myself that need to be deleted. How often does this site clear out those pages? Thanks. (Wow, I just noticed their are 3 pages worth of stuff waiting to be deleted. Almost 500 articles.) --[[User:Jay Freedman|Jay Freedman]] 02:31, 29 October 2009 (MDT)

:It's getting worked on... Just keep adding them. A matter of weeks ago it was more then double the current amount (six or more pages) - so it's slowly getting cleared. Everything has to get by-hand looked at (since "What links here", talk pages, links, etc can be strange) so it's just a work in progress. They will get deleted though if need be (or authorship stripped). --[[User:Green Dragon|Green Dragon]] 16:53, 29 October 2009 (MDT)

::Sounds good. Thanks for the update. --[[User:Jay Freedman|Jay Freedman]] 20:19, 31 October 2009 (MDT)

== Arcane Ranger Rating ==

I rated the [[Talk:Arcane Ranger (3.5e Class)|Arcane Ranger]] class, but the number of ratings nor the overall ratings didn't change, why is this? --[[User:Zackrb|Zackrb]] 06:33, 2 November 2009 (UTC)

:You posted your rating on the talk page. But, that is only half of rating. You must edit the article itself to reflect your rating. Their are placeholders for ratings when editing the article itself. Updating these causes a overall rating to appear on the article when viewed. (Please remember to sign your posts.) --[[User:129.123.245.182|129.123.245.182]] 03:04, 2 November 2009 (MST)

::I got it. --[[User:Green Dragon|Green Dragon]] 21:45, 21 June 2010 (UTC)

== Deletion ==

Her im kinda new here and a was gonna set up a page for my friends to use my Digimon and Pokemon races and classes. I know that might sound stupid but hey to each his own, any way you put up my renamon page for deletion and a wasen't done with it yet i'm not sure wether it was because of that or the fact that it's a digimon, if you don't want digimon and stuff on there a will not put it on there ''':)''' just let me know.

(p.s.) i did'nt understand the way you set stuff up till now so i understand if the page was just in the way. {{Unsigned|Corycodered|01:00, 12 November 2009 (MDT)}}

:Well what is it? A creature? It's not formatted like anything... If you follow a preload (go to a certain section and click the "add" button — that text) and update the current thing to fit that the delete template will be removed. If you don't want to do that of course you can move it to a subuserpage of yours (e.g. User:Corycodered/Renamon) then no formatting is needed. But one of those is needed for the delete template to be removed. --[[User:Green Dragon|Green Dragon]] 01:17, 12 November 2009 (MST)

== Deletion ==

I'd like my user page deleted, if possible. Thanks --[[User:Palantini|Palantini]] 16:51, 14 November 2009 (MST)

:Done. No problem. --[[User:Green Dragon|Green Dragon]] 21:28, 21 June 2010 (UTC)

== WikiRPS Shutdown ==

Hello. I joined this wiki from the WikiRPS, and I've been trying to find out who is running that wiki. While I could and probably will eventually get active here, right now I'm more driven towards working on a more broad system, adapting historical, current, and sci-fi culture, weapons, and technology to an open RPS, not necessarily D&D. Thanks. --[[User:Madkcat|Madkcat]] 00:47, 18 November 2009 (MST)

:Pretty sure [[User:Cuthalion|Cuthalion]] is, although [[User:Blue Dragon|Blue Dragon]] may be as well (I am not sure), or DotHectate ([http://www.wikirps.org/wiki/Special:Listusers/sysop Special:Listadmins]). --[[User:Green Dragon|Green Dragon]] 00:53, 18 November 2009 (MST)

::As far as I have been able to find, [[User:Cuthalion|Cuthalion]] hasn't been active since December '07, [[User:Blue Dragon|Blue Dragon]] June '09 and DotHectate ([http://www.wikirps.org/wiki/Special:Listusers/sysop Special:Listadmins]) since June '08 on WikiRPS.
::I have some ideas of what to do, and how I'd like to do it, but I don't want to start messing with the Wiki until I can talk with someone who was/is active in WikiRPS to make sure I'm not stepping on toes, or causing problems by jumping in running. --[[User:Madkcat|madkcat]] 01:18, 18 November 2009 (MST)

:::I'm not in charge on WikiRPS. This wiki, where I did the initial setup, I know what's going on. There I do not — I have maybe only gone there a matter of times. You would have to ask one of them what's going on. Sorry about that. --[[User:Green Dragon|Green Dragon]] 01:21, 18 November 2009 (MST)

::::This is Hectate, I don't recall if I have a login for D&D Wiki so I'm just posting anon-ishly. Cuthalion was about the only admin during my time over there and he stopped posted at the noted time frame, which — as the only other active user — promoted me to admin at some point. I changed IRL jobs and didn't have as much free time to keep working on my custom rule set ("Incremental") so everything kind of fell apart without anyone to maintain the wiki. It appears the wiki has been shut down as well, I suppose Green Dragon could confirm that for us since he was running the hosted server? Either way, if there's anything you need I might be able to recall the general details, feel free to email me at nathaniel (spamfree-dot) mitchell (spamfree-at) gmail (spamfree-dot) com and I'll see if I can help. --[[Special:Contributions/12.109.127.254|12.109.127.254]] 12:28, 1 June 2010 (UTC)

:::::Yes, WikiRPS has been shutdown. You would have to contact [[User:Blue Dragon|Blue Dragon]] for more details. --[[User:Green Dragon|Green Dragon]] 21:33, 21 June 2010 (UTC)

== Language Style ==

As a born British English man, I'm somewhat accustomed to the British language. But I only could assume that this D&D Wiki is American, so in my language fixing, I didn't change anything like "armor" to "Armour" or vica versa, because I was unaware of what to do about it. So now I ask you, do I correct spellings to American or British English? Or something else, if that's how you roll. --[[User:SgtLion|SgtLion]] 11:01, 22 November 2009 (MST)

:It's American English. I recommend taking a look at [[Help:Standards and Formatting (DnD Guideline)]]. --[[User:Green Dragon|Green Dragon]] 15:51, 22 November 2009 (MST)

::Guessed as much. And thanks, I'll take a look at that. Your response and help is appreciated. --[[User:SgtLion|SgtLion]] 00:02, 23 November 2009 (MST)

:::Ya, no problem. --[[User:Green Dragon|Green Dragon]] 00:36, 23 November 2009 (MST)

== Vacation ==

I am taking a short five day long vacation or so down to New Mexico. I will have limited computer access however if everyone could keep an eye out for malicious edits, vandalism, etc it would be much appreciated. --[[User:Green Dragon|Green Dragon]] 08:23, 25 November 2009 (MST)

== Slam Attacks Attack Type ==

Hi. I was trying to find out if a slam attack is like an unarmed strike for the perpose of feats. {{Unsigned|Okamo|03:51, 27 November 2009 (UTC)}}

:Please ask questions like this on [[DnD Discussions]]. --[[User:Green Dragon|Green Dragon]] 21:45, 21 June 2010 (UTC)

== Donation Updates and Feedback ==

Im the one that sent the recent 7 dollar through paypal, can you keep me updated when you guys run donation drives so i can donate what i can. Also if you dont mind can you look over some the contributions that i made since i signed up to see if you feel they are constructive. Mainly I feel in love with aura guardian but want some feedback before i keep at it. Thanks! --[[User:Starcry|Starcry]] 19:40, 28 November 2009 (UTC)

:I like the anime shadow skill and was wondering if you ever thought about making a class based on the sevaars, specifically on gau and elle. I liked your tenken class and the frost knight one, so I was just throwing the idea out there. {{Unsigned|12.132.91.167|00:42, 11 December 2009 (UTC)}}

::If I remember next time we have a donation drive then yes, I will remind you. --[[User:Green Dragon|Green Dragon]] 22:06, 21 June 2010 (UTC)

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== Confusing Edit ==

On [[Snake (4e Creature)]] you recently added [[Template:Wikify]] with the following explanation (and I quote): ''The ":" should not be in the Encounter Groups (see preload or Books for reference). Instead an extra line should be added. Also either a breadcrumb should be added or the current "Back To" footer condensed ("by Level" etc).'' I am not entirely sure what you're trying to say here. There is no colon anywhere in the Encounter Groups section, nor could I find anything else in that section that seemed off, much less something that warranted the template. The second part is also poorly worded, and all I pulled out of it is that you want me to change the Back To footers in some manner. Please clarify what you want changed, as I really am at a loss O.o --[[User:Dracomortis|Dracomortis]] 18:44, 9 September 2009 (MDT)

:I edited the page. If you look at my last edit does that clear up any confusion? --[[User:Green Dragon|Green Dragon]] 00:56, 10 September 2009 (MDT)

::Oh, I see what happened. You mentioned the Encounter Groups section, but you actually meant the Lore sections. I feel I should point out, however, that the colons are part of the preload and not something that I specifically added. Might be worth removing them from the preload if it is preferred that they not be added. Also, on the issue of the Back To footer, did you mean that instead of this:
::Back to [[Main Page]] → [[4e Homebrew|Homebrew]] → [[4e Creatures|Creatures]] → [[4e User Creatures by Level|User Creatures by Level]] → [[4e Level 3 Creatures|Level 3 Creatures]].
::It should be condensed to this:
::Back to [[Main Page]] → [[4e Homebrew|Homebrew]] → [[4e Creatures|Creatures]] → [[4e User Creatures by Level|User Creatures by Level]]
::If so, that's another minor error you might want to look into, as the preload includes the former example and not the latter. Thanks for the clarification. -- [[User:Dracomortis|Dracomortis]] 12:46, 10 September 2009 (MDT)

:::Oh, your right. I meant the lore section instead, sorry. I must have not been thinking at the time. Although the colons have been removed from the preload for quite some while now ([http://www.dandwiki.com/w/index.php?title=4e_Creature_Preload&diff=next&oldid=287610]). If you store a old copy of the preload on your computer you may want to update it (of course not using the old table and switching to the template (which needs to be updated on the preload sometime). And for the breadcrumb I would just use [[Template:4e Creatures Level 7 Breadcrumb]], etc. --[[User:Green Dragon|Green Dragon]] 14:00, 10 September 2009 (MDT)

::::Ah, that would be the problem then — I've had my copy of the preload saved for several months now. I've added a breadcrumb for each CR on the page (something I normally do but must have forgotten on that page). Thanks again for taking the time to clarify what needed to be changed. --[[User:Dracomortis|Dracomortis]] 22:17, 13 September 2009 (MDT)

:::::Ya, I know what you mean. I would imagine another main reason is because the template for the creatures is not added as well. --[[User:Green Dragon|Green Dragon]] 12:33, 15 September 2009 (MDT)

== Userpage Gallery Clean Up ==

Noticed you hadn't gotten around to organizing the gallery on your user page. I will probably arrange them for you soon if you don't find the time. As a professional artist myself, a clean gallery is a must. Oh, and your talk page is super long and has a million MOI's on it. Time to clean your room GD. Hehe. --[[User:Jay Freedman|Jay Freedman]] 17:50, 15 September 2009 (MDT)(The OCD guy.)

:Ya, I know. I always clean my userpage with time (see all the archives). Also, I find that the current layout of the pictures has a nice artistic touch; I find the placement to not only invoke thought and wonder but also stretch the images. Although, to be honest, they are slowly getting old on my userpage and I may remove them soon. --[[User:Green Dragon|Green Dragon]] 10:48, 16 September 2009 (MDT)

::Sounds good. You da' boss. --[[User:Jay Freedman|Jay Freedman]] 17:04, 18 September 2009 (MDT)

:::It's my userpage... You are in charge of your userpage. --[[User:Green Dragon|Green Dragon]] 20:22, 19 September 2009 (MDT)

== Recent Tavern Changes ==

Hey, what happened to the tavern? It simply is not working, and the search doesn't seem to be working the same either. Changes? {{Unsigned|Dumai|17:52, 17 September 2009 (MDT)}}

:I need to get a bit more RAM to be able to get the Tavern back up and running with the servers. Most likely I will spend some of the google ads money on buying some more RAM. --[[User:Green Dragon|Green Dragon]] 20:53, 17 September 2009 (MDT)

::What kind of funds need to be raised? Perhaps a fundraiser like years ago?  [[User:Hooper|''' Hooper ''']][[User talk:Hooper|  talk  ]][[Special:Contributions/Hooper|  contribs  ]][[Special:Emailuser/Hooper|  email  ]] 20:54, 17 September 2009 (MDT)

:::I was planning on using some google ads money for RAM but if people think that a little fundraiser should be organized as well I am more then willing. --[[User:Green Dragon|Green Dragon]] 20:57, 17 September 2009 (MDT)

::::I'm sure every bit could help. $5 and $10 here and there can't hurt at least.  [[User:Hooper|''' Hooper ''']][[User talk:Hooper|  talk  ]][[Special:Contributions/Hooper|  contribs  ]][[Special:Emailuser/Hooper|  email  ]] 20:59, 17 September 2009 (MDT)

:::::Maybe we could have a vote and see if more users like the tavern or not. Thoughts? --[[User:Green Dragon|Green Dragon]] 20:22, 19 September 2009 (MDT)

::::::It could be a good idea. I like the ''idea'' of a wiki chat, but in practice it was nothing more than a distraction from the actual wiki. Voting would be good, especially if removing the tavern could assist in site performance.  [[User:Hooper|''' Hooper ''']][[User talk:Hooper|  talk  ]][[Special:Contributions/Hooper|  contribs  ]][[Special:Emailuser/Hooper|  email  ]] 20:29, 19 September 2009 (MDT)

:::::::It is my solemn opinion that the Tavern Chat system should be repaired and remain. My love for it is unconditional, despite the fact that it tends to be immature in many ways and attract the least virtuous of viewers it was a place I could always count on to give me some source of entertainment or conversation, however minimal. One of the greatest delights I had when I used to frequent this site, as I am beginning to do again presently, was popping onto the Tavern in the middle of looking through articles and thinking about what would be useful in a future campaign. I would always find a witty conversationalist or a helpful tinkerer out and about amidst all of the chaos, and it helped to know I was not alone. The Tavern, in my opinion, is a reinforcement of the comradeship of this Wiki, and can be utilized to go there for quick instant messaging communication instead of relatively sluggish editing of each others pages. My piece has been said for now, and my vote is for keeping the Tavern. --[[User:Harry Mason|Harry Mason]] 15:22, 25 September 2009 (MDT)

::::::::Taking the above, and giving it thought, The Tavern can be a great tool. Especially if the former abrasive temperaments are no longer present, it can be a really great way to bring in new wiki users. Combing through the old logs shows that many potential users were ran off because of the attitude within it. But as Harry shows above, even with that it did great things. Perhaps we should place this discussion on "hold" until the tavern is ready to come back online, and then hold it in a better place so all can discuss ways to make the tavern better and more manageable?  [[User:Hooper|''' Hooper ''']][[User talk:Hooper|  talk  ]][[Special:Contributions/Hooper|  contribs  ]][[Special:Emailuser/Hooper|  email  ]] 15:30, 25 September 2009 (MDT)

:::::::::Bullocks. The crowd that used the tavern (with a few notable exceptions) constantly strayed off-topic, and it came out as bunch of sentence fragments that tried to be witty and failed miserably. Especially TK's "Your mama" jokes, for instance.... I go on there looking for feedback on my work, and everybody would rather take cheap shots than actually offer constructive advice. Although I hate to say it, but for all his snide attitude, Surgo did point me toward Frank Trollman's material... --[[User:Mythos Specialist|Mythos]] 02:56, 28 September 2009 (MDT)

::::::::::Well do you guys think it helped more or hurt more? All we need to do is vote... It is all opinion; nothing to discuss. --[[User:Green Dragon|Green Dragon]] 13:27, 28 September 2009 (MDT)

:::::::::::It has been discontinued. See also [[Discussion:The Tavern: use, expansion, and availability.]]. --[[User:Green Dragon|Green Dragon]] 04:17, 16 February 2010 (UTC)

== Recent Activity Lessening? ==

Do we even have anybody left who still posts here? Besides us three, that is... --[[User:Mythos Specialist|Mythos]] 10:59, 18 September 2009 (MDT)

:Yes, the site has been just as active lately as ever, only the 'tavern crowd' is gone. The site is improving on a daily basis and will continue to do so. In the last 30 days alone there have been over 42 active users (plus plenty of IP edits), so yes, yes we are very active considering.  [[User:Hooper|''' Hooper ''']][[User talk:Hooper|  talk  ]][[Special:Contributions/Hooper|  contribs  ]][[Special:Emailuser/Hooper|  email  ]] 11:05, 18 September 2009 (MDT)

::Thank God. I hated having to go in there to ask for feedback and getting sarcastic commentary. Maybe it's funny to the younger users, but to an old-timer like myself it seemed pretty juvenile and pointless. -- [[User:Mythos Specialist|Mythos]] 13:09, 19 September 2009 (MDT)

:::Same here. I put up with it for years but recently started treating them the same way they treat others and they literally can not handle it. They freak out. Really pathetic actually. I hope this helps others learn how to be properly collaborative in the future.  [[User:Hooper|''' Hooper ''']][[User talk:Hooper|  talk  ]][[Special:Contributions/Hooper|  contribs  ]][[Special:Emailuser/Hooper|  email  ]] 15:44, 19 September 2009 (MDT)

== Media's Mediawiki ==

In going through the media side of the site, I've noticed many users have basically used it as a personal storage unit. It is filled with images that are not used in any articles whatsoever (though unlike wikipedia our images don't always say what pages link to them, odd...). I was wondering if a purging of the mediawiki would help improve the server performance?  [[User:Hooper|''' Hooper ''']][[User talk:Hooper|  talk  ]][[Special:Contributions/Hooper|  contribs  ]][[Special:Emailuser/Hooper|  email  ]] 14:52, 18 September 2009 (MDT)

:I concur. Many of the images I uploaded, (as awesome as the are), are no longer linked to an article. It certainly sounds like a good idea. --[[User:Jay Freedman|Jay Freedman]] 16:58, 18 September 2009 (MDT)

::No. --[[User:Green Dragon|Green Dragon]] 20:20, 19 September 2009 (MDT)

== Possible Ban Circumvention ==

I think [[User:Ghostwheel|Ghostwheel]] has already paid enough and his ban is over in two day, amybe we could unblock him so he can actually tell his version of the facts? I don't want to do it myself in case you disagreed, it why I ask. --[[User:Lord Dhazriel|Dhazriel]] 18:42, 18 September 2009 (MDT)

:I strongly disagree with this. Firstly, there is no side of any story, as it was just a personal subpage note. Secondly, he showed his lack of respect to honor the ban when he broke policy and posted using his IP. If anything, his ban should be prolonged for that reason alone.  [[User:Hooper|''' Hooper ''']][[User talk:Hooper|  talk  ]][[Special:Contributions/Hooper|  contribs  ]][[Special:Emailuser/Hooper|  email  ]] 18:47, 18 September 2009 (MDT)

::You're both mistaken. With Check User [[User:Ghostwheel|Ghostwheel]] has not been posting. Or which IP do you mean? --[[User:Green Dragon|Green Dragon]] 18:53, 18 September 2009 (MDT)

:::He admitted to it on Surgo's page on the other wiki as well as on another user's page there. I would link, but don't want to spam, as I feel as though that may be.  [[User:Hooper|''' Hooper ''']][[User talk:Hooper|  talk  ]][[Special:Contributions/Hooper|  contribs  ]][[Special:Emailuser/Hooper|  email  ]] 18:56, 18 September 2009 (MDT)

::::All I would need is the IP... It's called "Chck User" (please use google at this moment if you are not positive as to what I am talking about). --[[User:Green Dragon|Green Dragon]] 20:19, 19 September 2009 (MDT)

== Green Dragon and I ==

This may seem redundant to you ''(GD)'' and I, but I thought it would be good to note that we are not the same individual, do not always agree (nor even agree a lot of the times), nor do we even know each other offline. Before the rumors get started, even though some already have.  [[User:Hooper|''' Hooper ''']][[User talk:Hooper|  talk  ]][[Special:Contributions/Hooper|  contribs  ]][[Special:Emailuser/Hooper|  email  ]] 18:56, 18 September 2009 (MDT)

:I don't know you... --[[User:Green Dragon|Green Dragon]] 22:42, 18 September 2009 (MDT)

== Removing Template:Author ==

Would you please refrain from removing author templates from (my) articles? Whether or not they've priorly been marked for deletion, they should remain associated with their respective principal authors, as per article 4B of [[D&D Wiki:Copyrights|D&D Wiki:Copyrights]]. Thank you. --[[User:Sulacu|Sulacu]] 00:01, 19 September 2009 (MDT)

:History as well... As explained over and over again. --[[User:Green Dragon|Green Dragon]] 20:17, 19 September 2009 (MDT)

::And I am asking you over and over again to refrain from removing the author templates. Being the person identified in the history of these particular pages as the first editor makes this request more than reasonable. --[[User:Sulacu|Sulacu]] 08:04, 20 September 2009 (MDT)

:::It seems you decided to respond to my aforementioned reasonable request by making [http://www.dandwiki.com/w/index.php?title=Ghast%2C_Deathless_%283.5e_Creature%29&oldid=415512 this] and several other similar edits to my pages, in which you removed yet more author boxes and more references to my personal user category from my pages. What, are you just going to ignore me and merrily continue this scandalous behaviour instead without the courtesy of a direct response? I don't remotely care how much 'cleaner' you think the history is, I will not stand for seeing my work vandalized. ''Not even by site admins! Am I finally getting through to you?''
:::If you want to erase all evidence of my existence from this wiki for what happened back in August, then fine. Delete all my stuff. ''All of it.'' And I'll be happy to stay gone. If you're unwilling to do that, then don't touch it. I expected such sensible and gentlemanly conduct to go without saying, but apparently the word ethics does not mean a thing to you. This is the last time I will ask you this in a civil manner. --[[User:Sulacu|Sulacu]] 12:57, 26 September 2009 (MDT)

::::Usercontributions. Like how one looks at my contributions to some articles. History. This is to see who has done what to which article. One more non-logical response and I will issue a ban to you. --[[User:Green Dragon|Green Dragon]] 13:41, 26 September 2009 (MDT)

:::::"''Usercontributions. Like how one looks at my contributions to some articles. History. This is to see who has done what to which article.''"
:::::... What are these sentence fragments even supposed to mean? The only responses I see that are incoherent and devoid of any logic are yours. Are you just being deliberately vague so you'd have a solid excuse to ban me when I respond? That's not to say that I ''ever'' saw ''anyone'' getting ''anything'' close to a ban for 'non-logic' back when I signed onto this wiki in May 2007. I never saw anyone getting their author box deleted from their articles back then either. Even omitting the fact that the author boxes disappear from my articles, what possible justification could you have for deleting my ''personal user-based category'' (<nowiki>[[Category:User Sulacu]]</nowiki>) from the article pages as well? That's like taking pages out of my user page's dpl lists. Isn't that like undermining the system of my pages on your wiki, as well as a form of 'orphaning pages' or whatever it is called (hence, 'vandalism', if you're too logic-deficient to see where I'm going)?
:::::Seriously, I've had more than enough of your stupid antics, and your pigheaded falling back upon your new favorite word, 'non-logic', which you seem to invoke primarily when people say something you don't like. As a faithful and dedicated contributor to your wiki for over two whole years, and the creator of over three hundred standing pages of homebrew articles currently displayed on the site, please honor my final request to leave those pages be, and stop being such a freaking bludger. A little admission on your side will make this whole affair a lot less smelly, and both our lives a lot easier. --[[User:Sulacu|Sulacu]] 14:27, 26 September 2009 (MDT)

::::::Banned. One needs to be understand civility and understand who is who on D&D Wiki. Stop just pestering people and making problems where none exist. --[[User:Green Dragon|Green Dragon]] 13:25, 28 September 2009 (MDT)

:::::::Out of curiosity, why was Sulacu banned? She was obviously upset that her name was being removed from the things that she had created, so it's not like she did anything wrong. I mean, I know I've not been here a long time, but Sulacu seems to have posted a high amount of quality homebrew, so shouldn't she be entitled to have her name on what she's made? I guess it may just be thinking aloud though. But really, consider if someone should be banned for voicing objections to losing the right to the things they made. I think a good example is if say someone took the Dandwiki from you Green, and removed every trace of you from it. Wouldn't you be upset and slightly protest against it? Obviously I'm not saying that that should happen, but I feel that it is a good example. Please reconsider this flurry of author removals, people merely just want to keep their name on what they've devoted time and effort into. --[[User:Dersius|Dersius]] 16:11, 28 September 2009 (MDT)

::::::::Although I won't comment on the ban, as far as comparing having a wiki that GD pays to maintain and content that a user freely posts online, it isn't really a good example.  [[User:Hooper|''' Hooper ''']][[User talk:Hooper|  talk  ]][[Special:Contributions/Hooper|  contribs  ]][[Special:Emailuser/Hooper|  email  ]] 18:03, 28 September 2009 (MDT)

:::::::::For the last time or your getting banned too; it's history and usercontributions. --[[User:Green Dragon|Green Dragon]] 20:57, 28 September 2009 (MDT)

::::::::::What? Is this really what it's come to? I've never talked to you before and you are threatening to ban me for attempting to give my opinion and suggestions on something? Isn't this supposed to be a community-run site? I'm sorry, I'm just a little confused as to why it's suddenly everyone being banned for speaking. You didn't even answer my question, so obviously you are ignoring the average user, which isn't the path that any admin should take. If you feel like being a dictator and banning everyone, go ahead. Go ahead and ban every last person that brought quality work to this wiki. Go ahead and ban until there's no one left except for your butt-buddy troll Hooper and yourself. I'm through here. It used to be a nice place to come to and the community was friendly, and the few times you stopped in the tavern, it was nice to talk to you. What happened to you? Whatever. It doesn't matter. This wiki is going downhill in quality, I just think you are blind to it right now, but you'll realize it here soon. Hooper, I know you are probably reading this too. Stop instigating things over at the Wikia. If you leave us alone, we'll leave you alone. I know I personally just want this whole thing to end and for the separation to be finished quickly and painlessly. With that note, I fully expect to be banned by the dictatorship that this wiki has turned into. Just remember, the First Amendment is in place to protect the unpopular opinion, and you are crushing it beneath your heel by banning everyone who isn't Hooper. Just remember that you ruined your wiki by driving off those that kept it running smoothly. --[[User:Dersius|Dersius]] 20:12, 28 September 2009.

:::::::::<code>"''... butt-buddy troll Hooper ...''", and "''What happened to you?''" (direct rudeness: name-calling, ill-considered accusations of impropriety) (1:1).''</code> --[[User:Green Dragon|Green Dragon]] 04:17, 16 February 2010 (UTC)

:::::::::::I have never said anything to anyone from wikia in my life. You don't know me — don't say that. --[[User:Green Dragon|Green Dragon]] 21:17, 28 September 2009 (MDT)

::::::::::::He said that Hooper was instigating things at wikia.. Geez, if this is the way the administration of this site is I'm not going to put my homebrew on here, I'm going to make sure the people I know don't ruin their work by having it stolen by this wiki. {{Unsigned|121.44.216.33|10:24, 29 September 2009 (UTC)}}

:::::::::::::As I haven't even visited the other in seemingly forever, and you guys are here still causing problems - well, you get the picture. Are you done calling people who don't know each other "butt buddys" while also calling them the trolls ''(??? - Irony?)'' so that we can get back to work? You state ''"If you leave us alone, we'll leave you alone."'' yet here you are, when no one is messing with you. Either contribute or stop starting problems. Thanks in advance for your cooperation.  [[User:Hooper|''' Hooper ''']][[User talk:Hooper|  talk  ]][[Special:Contributions/Hooper|  contribs  ]][[Special:Emailuser/Hooper|  email  ]] 06:34, 29 September 2009 (MDT)

{{Discussion Indentation Revert}}

:I don't have any take on Sulacu or any other user on this site, really. I only came in and started editing recently, after all, myself. I have been thinking on this for a while, though. Why ''exactly'' is author information being taken off of pages? Watch and History are reasonably insufficient in accrediting the idea of a creature or idea to authors, even if not so terribly important. Since it's homebrew, anyways, I am sure it's not so bad to afford someone that little bit of pride in seeing their name in the author template of their articles. Also, which articles are subject to this? So far, I've only ever seen creatures having their templates removed, which I don't quite understand. [[User:Jwguy|Jwguy]] 01:42, 6 November 2009 (MST)

::I never said anyone was doing anything on Wikia. I could care less about Wikia — people going to a different site is not a war in my mind. D&D Wiki (about now) averages 8,000 unique visitors a day — I don't care about you. A war is a war in my mind. Think about logically — why would I care? As long as you guys do not transfer any content from D&D Wiki to Wikia (all the content here is under the GNU FDL v1.2 - putting it under the CC is a violation of the law and liable to be sued) or doing anything related (please see the GNU FDL - I, as the owner of D&D Wiki have the rights, additionally I, as the owner, can invoke aspects of the GNU FDL v1.2 as I wish too).
::And why is the author template being removed? It hinders reading, and hinders a wiki-structure (editing for improvement not just saying "mine mine mine", etc.) Most people, before editing, do check history and before use many do too (seeing something from an IP is less likely as something, say, which comes from an established user). It just hurts the wiki - removing it helps the overall structure. --[[User:Green Dragon|Green Dragon]] 13:19, 6 November 2009 (MST)

:::I personally feel as though the author template adds a bit of authenticity to articles of homebrew. Sure, while in some cases, items simply are corrupted or bettered by the many anonymous edits that are to be expected on the internet, but in other cases, it's a nice gesture of pride to find an idea or page that you're proud of, and have your name sitting at the top. All as well, while I may not agree, It's not important, and I suppose I can understand that as a sufficient reason. Thank you for answering. [[User:Jwguy|Jwguy]] 19:50, 6 November 2009 (MST)

::::(Haha, Jwguy is editing in above me.) Hopefully the author box will be completely removed from all articles and preloads. This is a Wiki. No article submitted to the site is considered static and unchanging. Should you wish to keep your pet projects to yourself, do not submit them here. Under every edit box are the words "''If you don't want your writing to edited mercilessly and redistributed at will, then don't submit it here.''" You have been warned and forewarned. Author boxes are a privilege, not a right. Again, hopefully they will be universally removed. --[[User:Jay Freedman|Jay Freedman]] 15:54, 6 November 2009 (MST)

:::::Okay, I agree that's it a kind of a gesture of pride to see ones username on a page... But it's also a wiki. However another reason for the removed I see is that it creates editing problems. For example sometimes when I am playing I print something out, correct it, however do not change it since I do not want to have to talk to that author about it. If I was not the owner (rather a standard user or IP) I imagine I would feel more inclined and accepted to change it freely. I feel it creates more freedom for the perfection of content. However I see both sides. Currently I removed them from 4e deities, 4e races, and the preload for 4e creatures (and a few their). Personally I would like to wait a matter of months and see how those sections respond. Already I have seen positive improvements from the 4e deities section by IP's - which is a good sign - however it is still to early to say. --[[User:Green Dragon|Green Dragon]] 20:39, 6 November 2009 (MST)

::::::Sorry, it was my understanding from most of the wikis that I've been that the colon indentation is used to identify who is replying to whom, as well as keep track of subject. I read your post, Jay, but simply had nothing to say about it, so I went ahead and continued to reply towards Green Dragon's last post, which is the reason for the way I posted. I had assumed this was normal.
::::::That said, I don't mind, either way. I appreciate you taking the time to appease my curiousity on this matter, however, Green dragon. As said, I like the idea of the authenticity and author templates, but they don't matter so much as to fight over them, to me. If it comes down to it, I'll go around taking them down, myself; I just wanted to get the reasoning for it before I conjectured any of my own, which you've provided, certainly. I can realize what problems you see for it, and they are well based and reasonable for it's exclusion, so really it's just my opinion that differs. Functionality is more important when it comes to this kind of site, I believe, and pride, while a encouraging thing as well, is subservient to that. [[User:Jwguy|Jwguy]] 21:49, 6 November 2009 (MST)

:::::::@ Jwguy. No problem bro. I figured you had a good reason anyway. Thanks for being so vocal about your opinions. Your not the only one who feels the way you do. Keep up the good work. Peace! --[[User:Jay Freedman|Jay Freedman]] 22:33, 6 November 2009 (MST)

== Why Did You Delete the Bloodline I Posted? ==

I'd like to know why you deleted the optional Bloodline (Brachyurus) I developed and posted.

The only comment I see, and its only a single line in the deletion log, is "This is not OGL".

I would appreciate ''some'' explanation. At the very least, the minimum courtesy of informing me. To top it off, you ''also'' deleted the Discussion topic I started in which I asked for any feedback.

If you don't want new people posting anything, just say so. --[[User:Reddir|reddir]] 21:29, 21 September 2009 (MDT).

:It is from the [[Epic Level Handbook]], right? --[[User:Green Dragon|Green Dragon]] 23:00, 21 September 2009 (MDT)

::It is also, according to your [[SRD:Brachyurus]], in the SRD? And the Bloodline was entirely my own construction; I am not aware of anything similar that has been published. None of which explains why you would delete the Discussion where I ask for feedback - a perfect place, I would think, to have this discussion. --[[User:Reddir|reddir]] 23:58, 21 September 2009 (MDT)

:::That's ones not from the [[Epic Level Handbook]]... That's SRD (probably MM or who knows). If the bloodlines was your ''own'' creation ''DO NOT'' put "this is from the [[Epic Level Handbook]]" on the bottom of the page. Also [[DnD Discussion|Discussions]] are for ''questions'' (not like a forum...). If you want something reviewed, like always, post it on the talk page. Not there. --[[User:Green Dragon|Green Dragon]] 16:19, 22 September 2009 (MDT)

::::You are saying that you really thought I copied the bloodline from the Epic Level Handbook? Have you seen the UA style Bloodlines ''anywhere'' but in UA? And does that mean you did not even bother reading what I had written on the Talk page before you deleted it all?
::::Anyway, are you saying you would be fine with me posting the Brachyurus Bloodline I designed if I make it clear that I was the one who put it together?
::::re: Discussions, ok, I hadn't realized it was not a forum. Still, I would have appreciated ''some'' information ''somewhere'' about why you deleted my work. --[[User:Reddir|reddir]] 16:48, 22 September 2009 (MDT)

:::::This is what I saw:
:::::<nowiki> ==== Brachyurus ====</nowiki>
:::::<nowiki> </nowiki>
:::::<nowiki> [[SRD:Brachyurus|Brachyurus]] is the Platonic wolf/canine from the Epic Level Handbook. </nowiki>
:::::<nowiki> {| class="{{d20}}" style="text-align: left;"</nowiki>
:::::<nowiki> |+ {{#anc:Brachyurus Bloodline Traits}}</nowiki>
:::::(from a deleted revisions preview). Or is that part just superficial? --[[User:Green Dragon|Green Dragon]] 23:02, 23 September 2009 (MDT)

::::::Should I assume you noticed the "SRD:Brachyurus|Brachyurus" portion of what you quoted? --[[User:Reddir|reddir]] 23:11, 23 September 2009 (MDT)

:::::::That's called a piped link... Not sure if you have ever heard of formatting or not. --[[User:Green Dragon|Green Dragon]] 23:33, 23 September 2009 (MDT)

::::::::It seems clear that you are taking the issues behind this discussion much less seriously than I am. Therefore I will stop wasting my time with you. --[[User:Reddir|reddir]] 23:52, 23 September 2009 (MDT)

:::::::::That is a PIPED link. Without the piped link it looks like: "Brachyurus is the Platonic wolf/canine from the Epic Level Handbook."... let's see... can that be here? --[[User:Green Dragon|Green Dragon]] 13:23, 28 September 2009 (MDT)

::::::::::I should have read what you were saying more carefully. I am sorry for this misunderstanding, it was my fault. It has now been restored. --[[User:Green Dragon|Green Dragon]] 19:54, 21 June 2010 (UTC)

== Prestige Classes Rating ==

My Void Knight prestige class now has 2 ratings (3 if my own counts), and I was just wondering how/when exactly the unrated classes were relisted as rated. [[User:Desril|Desril]] 15:09, 30 September 2009 (MDT)

:Really it is just a matter of doing the switch. You can alter that yourself.  [[User:Hooper|''' Hooper ''']][[User talk:Hooper|  talk  ]][[Special:Contributions/Hooper|  contribs  ]][[Special:Emailuser/Hooper|  email  ]] 18:46, 27 September 2009 (MDT)

::Once all the ratings have been added one can. Although one cannot just create rating; [[User:Hooper|Hooper]] should have said that one can correct the ratings from the talk page onto the articles page. --[[User:Green Dragon|Green Dragon]] 19:41, 27 September 2009 (MDT)

:::Yes, after reading my post I should clarify that once rated you can add that information to the class page with the proper rating it was given shown.  [[User:Hooper|''' Hooper ''']][[User talk:Hooper|  talk  ]][[Special:Contributions/Hooper|  contribs  ]][[Special:Emailuser/Hooper|  email  ]] 07:14, 28 September 2009 (MDT)

::::Also, if you want to help rate things, please feel free. --[[User:Green Dragon|Green Dragon]] 13:21, 28 September 2009 (MDT)

== Tome of Fiends Spheres ==

The sphere pages connected to the Tome of Fiends, namely the Bone, Venom, Carnage and Bubbles, I believe, that you have already reverted, are ''not'', to my knowledge thus far, User items, and are in the sourcebook. Adding the User Category, on that level, is not necessary, nor correct, and it also interferes with the function on the page for the [[Tome of Fiends (3.5e Sourcebook)/Spheres and Feats#Fiendish Spheres|Spheres]] listing, which has been separated so that User-made Spheres and Official Spheres from the Sourcebook can be better recognized.

If you feel that you are undeniably correct in maintaining that the Spheres you are moving are User made and that perhaps I have been mistaken, please state so and proceed, but if not, and I believe they are not, they should be as they were before the reverting. [[User:Jwguy|Jwguy]] 23:17, 27 September 2009 (MDT)

:Tome Material is not official material from established publisers or OGL — it is just homebrew Frank & K stuff. Thus, it is User content. It is hard to define something as "official" when it is all entirely user homebrew — even if that user homebrew is well established.  [[User:Hooper|''' Hooper ''']][[User talk:Hooper|  talk  ]][[Special:Contributions/Hooper|  contribs  ]][[Special:Emailuser/Hooper|  email  ]] 07:13, 28 September 2009 (MDT)

::Well could we use that Tome article as the rule source? --[[User:Green Dragon|Green Dragon]] 13:21, 28 September 2009 (MDT)

:::This is, admittedly, true, given the nature of the Tome of Fiends, itself. Even in that case, however, the Tome of Fiends has no user category, and as a sourcebook, I use 'official' to simply designate those spheres which were created along with the sourcebook. I feel it would be best to separate the Homebrew'd spheres, in respect to the Tome, from those included by the authors, if only to maintain that the standard provided by the author shouldn't be confused with the likely standards of added-in spheres.
:::That all said and done, I could simply use another category, which I don't have much of a problem with; I'm rather delightfully partial to the Tome of Fiends, myself, and the Spheres even more. I just want to get it looking nice and neat, and without as much clutter and fully distinguishing their authors. So, that said, what is going to be used for the categories? [[User:Jwguy|Jwguy]] 21:10, 28 September 2009 (MDT)

::::[[:Category:User]] is present since it "fits" into the homebrew area. No matter how you look at it this is the case, see also [[3.5e Open Game Content]]. --[[User:Green Dragon|Green Dragon]] 20:02, 21 June 2010 (UTC)

== WikiRPS ==

I saw you had did some alterations to the navigation. I was wondering if a link to the WikiRPS site would help get some more activity over there? Or if you're even still interested in that. Just curious as to the goals/future of that project.  [[User:Hooper|''' Hooper ''']][[User talk:Hooper|  talk  ]][[Special:Contributions/Hooper|  contribs  ]][[Special:Emailuser/Hooper|  email  ]] 10:36, 28 September 2009 (MDT)

:They have their own wiki since a while now; [http://www.wikirps.org/wiki/Main_Page WikiRPS] (although using the same things, etc). I don't understand what your question is (see also [[3.5e Rules]]). --[[User:Green Dragon|Green Dragon]] 13:18, 28 September 2009 (MDT)

::Yes, I know they do. I guess my question is: "Do you think it would be beneficial to include a link to that wiki on our navigation here, perhaps near where we link to the media repository?"  [[User:Hooper|''' Hooper ''']][[User talk:Hooper|  talk  ]][[Special:Contributions/Hooper|  contribs  ]][[Special:Emailuser/Hooper|  email  ]] 13:48, 28 September 2009 (MDT)

:::We do. It's linked to from [[DnD Variant Rules]]; as discussed and implemented since a long time. --[[User:Green Dragon|Green Dragon]] 13:50, 28 September 2009 (MDT)

== Incorrect Adoptionations ==

Y HALO THAR. Recently I adopted a dozen or so pages because I have some future plans with them, and the original owner, Sulacu, is gone and all. I noticed you reversed those adoptions. Is something the matter, we're permitted to adopt unnamed and user-less articles are we not? Even more so if we actually have permission from the original owner? If you could redo those adoptions for me, that sure would be swell, it makes it easier to find when I don't have to comb through the history and just look up "User Eiji". Domo arigato desu desu desu-chan, ie! -- [[User:Eiji|Eiji]] 21:00, 1 October 2009 (MDT)

:Eiji, your recent discussions in the chat your splinter group is using showcases those adoptions as bad faith adoptions. However, even with that fact, I can't speak for GD's decision. I believe a previous editor said "just stay away and leave us alone" and that has been our wiki's attitude. I humbly request you follow suit. Thanks.  [[User:Hooper|''' Hooper ''']][[User talk:Hooper|  talk  ]][[Special:Contributions/Hooper|  contribs  ]][[Special:Emailuser/Hooper|  email  ]] 21:02, 1 October 2009 (MDT)

::Hi Hooper-desu! ''':D''' Well, it's very good faith actually, but the lower caste aren't supposed to talk to the upper caste. Wink wink, joke joke, nudge nudge. Anyway, I'm actually still active here (out of necessity, but that's a discussion for another time), so I can't leave.
::Anyway, awaitin' the Green Drag-man. I'll just leave this 'ere. -- [[User:Eiji|Eiji]] 21:11, 1 October 2009 (MDT)

:::As your most recent quote on the subject was the following: ''"the reason I'd adopt them is to keep GD's dirty mitts off them"'' as stated in your IRC channel, I'd say that clearly constitutes a bad faith adoption. Alas, however, GD shall tell us both how it went down, so I agree with your thoughts on waiting for him.  [[User:Hooper|''' Hooper ''']][[User talk:Hooper|  talk  ]][[Special:Contributions/Hooper|  contribs  ]][[Special:Emailuser/Hooper|  email  ]] 21:14, 1 October 2009 (MDT)

::::Where'd I say that? That's silly Hooper. -- [[User:Eiji|Eiji]] 21:16, 1 October 2009 (MDT)

:::::If GD requests it he will be shown proof of that and other things you've said of recent regarding the adoption. Ever since that chat channel decided to bring up the idea of using pirate software against this site I've daily logged on and pulled that day's chats from it. Thankfully, nothing as vile as the pirate attack threats has been discussed since.  [[User:Hooper|''' Hooper ''']][[User talk:Hooper|  talk  ]][[Special:Contributions/Hooper|  contribs  ]][[Special:Emailuser/Hooper|  email  ]] 21:18, 1 October 2009 (MDT)

::::::Of course not. You know, internet... it's full of people who talk for the hell of it, and talk is cheap. Why just yesterday I was claiming to be wearing a dress, when I was really wearing TWO dresses. ''':D''' But Hooper, we've gotten totally off the subject, so, for Green Dragon's sake I'm reseting the indent and reposting my point (I hope he doesn't mind). {{Unsigned|Eiji|20:23, 1 October 2009 (MDT)}}

:::::::Just placing my 2 cents Hooper but is it entirely ethical/legal to record and store chats without notifying those being recorded? Just wondering if perhaps playing secret agent in the chat room is the best use of your time which should be invested in this wiki, not in the wikia. Back on topic: if an article is up for adoption, what makes one user more or less worthy of adoption than another? One who has made as many contributions as Eiji is certainly able to competently handle an article, unless you are saying you trust a complete stranger to claim ownership of the article over an established contributor to this wiki. --[[User:Ehsteve|Ehsteve]] 21:34, 1 October 2009 (MDT)

::::::::You did it wrong... And D&D Wiki is fine; no malicious software should be able to do much of anything. --[[User:Green Dragon|Green Dragon]] 22:49, 1 October 2009 (MDT)

:::::::::Ah, I'm doing it wrong? Well then, how may I do it right so I can get them re-adopted? -- [[User:Eiji|Eiji]] 22:51, 1 October 2009 (MDT)

::::::::::Just don't. Just edit the damn things; it makes much much more sense (your name is added, what you did is shown, and you can create a link repository at a usersubpage of pages which ''relate'' to you, one can look with ''my watchlist'' the pages as they change, etc etc. [[Template:Author]] is just more of a hassle then much else (history; when created; does not change). --[[User:Green Dragon|Green Dragon]] 22:56, 1 October 2009 (MDT)

:::::::::::Explain that second part to me again? I'm trying to get the pages to appear on my User: Eiji page so I don't have to search through recent changes (also, I'd like credit for adopting them too, but I haven't bothered yet to look/copy paste the ownership box/dunno how to go about that). Anyway, the link repository is what I'm currently doing with my pages right, having them appear in my User: Eiji page automatically instead of linking them one by one. -- [[User:Eiji|Eiji]] 22:58, 1 October 2009 (MDT)

::::::::::::{{quote|...and you can create a link repository at a usersubpage of pages which ''relate'' to you...
|orig=--[[User:Green Dragon|Green Dragon]] 22:56, 1 October 2009 (MDT)
}}
::::::::::::--[[User:Green Dragon|Green Dragon]] 23:04, 1 October 2009 (MDT)

:::::::::::::Sorry, might be a little slow but... uh, I don't get it. Can you rephrase it in a different way, as right now it seems like you're saying we can't put things on our User page we didn't originally make and just adopted. Or... something, I'm not really sure. Thanks in advance. -- [[User:Eiji|Eiji]] 23:08, 1 October 2009 (MDT)

{{Discussion Indentation Revert}}

:Right; for example I have nothing (theoretically) to do with the images on my userpage. --[[User:Green Dragon|Green Dragon]] 23:16, 1 October 2009 (MDT)

::Oooh. Aww, that makes me sad... that means we aren't allowed to adopt anymore (at least, not in the normal sense of "I now own this", we can only edit... but then, so can everyone's else so it's a moot point). Well, there's nothing I can do. ''':(''' They were nice articles too.
::Oh well. /thread and all. -- [[User:Eiji|Eiji]] 23:18, 1 October 2009 (MDT)

:::Ya, but I find that usercontributions are much better then [[Template:Author]] and I find that when using history everything is much more fair then under the [[Template:Author]] system (each edit is that edit; not under someone elses' name). --[[User:Green Dragon|Green Dragon]] 23:22, 1 October 2009 (MDT)

::::To clarify, are you saying that the Author template is pointless to have on articles? Should we remove it from every article? --[[User:208.90.101.99|208.90.101.99]] 06:23, 2 October 2009 (MDT)

:::::I apologize -- that comment was out of line and pretty immature. I'm still a little sore over what happened and when I do visit this wiki (in this case I was responding to a private email about an optimized build I wrote a while back), I do the stupid thing of looking at the recent changes and get bothered by what is going on. This was my "home" for a long time after all. I can take a conversation up privately with you if you want to discuss why I think many of your actions are bad for the wiki, but needless to say, I sincerely hope that [[User:Green Dragon|Green Dragon]] does not make you an admin until your behavior changes. I say that out of my old dedication to this wiki, not my new found bitterness. But, as I said, this is something for a private conversation and doesn't belong here on GD's talk page.
:::::To restate my questions to GD: "Are you saying that the Author template is pointless to have on articles? Should we remove it from every article?" --[[User:Aarnott|Aarnott]] 07:53, 2 October 2009 (MDT)

::::::Thank you. I'm not seeking adminship, nor do I personally feel I need to be anything close to an admin, so I doubt such a conversation is necessary. [[User:Hooper|''' Hooper ''']][[User talk:Hooper|  talk  ]][[Special:Contributions/Hooper|  contribs  ]][[Special:Emailuser/Hooper|  email  ]] 07:57, 2 October 2009 (MDT)

:::::::They do seem to hinder articles at time; however that is a long process. I say we should work on things which are a little more handalable at the moment. Maybe with in the year or two; who knows. Or what are your opinions and thoughts? --[[User:Green Dragon|Green Dragon]] 22:43, 2 October 2009 (MDT)

== Attitudes ==

Well, something very strange is happening here... I'd say adopting things to keep them safe is in good faith, and it is my perhaps not very humble opinion that playing secret agent in a chatroom is quite unethical. Additionally, I think it's unethical to remove an author's name from the front of the page, since that's where the focus is, no matter where else information on the original author can be found. Furthermore, I agree with some arguments brought in against Green Dragon, seeing as he acts in a seemingly random manner, getting angry and threatening with bans for little reason.

I tried (much earlier) to reason with both parties, and GD didn't even answer. Not ever.

I'm taking my creations. I created them, so they are my property, and I do not care which laws you quote. According to some test and multiple real-life experiences, I turn out to be CG, and I cannot abide a regime like this. I shan't use guerilla tactics or whatever to negative effect for this wiki, because it is rather pointless; it will be dead by itself without my interference soon enough. To summarize, I take possession of my work, and I will not comply with any attempts to restore them.

Further reasons for abandoning this wiki include a disturbing lack of interest in discussion pages; no one has shown an interest in several things I pointed out in several different discussion pages, and rather few of my own things where commented upon (seeing as I mean to implement those things I find interesting or design myself, I'd like a little more discussion about things like balance and powerlevel). Another point is the apparent failure of internal consistency in at least some creatures of the animal type and a tendency not to do anything about it.

I bid you adieu. I expect my pages to remain gone when I have removed them, and I expect there will not be a problem with that. I have no need for either wiki laws or dictatorial outlashings (they should be mutually exclusive, but reality proves to be otherwise, ey?), and I shall not abide either. [[User:Deranged|Deranged]] 16:18, 2 October 2009 (MDT)

:Imitating behavior/harassment. Banned. Content is content, usercontributions are usercontributions, and history is history. --[[User:Green Dragon|Green Dragon]] 20:43, 3 October 2009 (MDT)

== Tavern Down ==

Why is the tavern not working, still?! It's been nearly three months? {{Unsigned|Zetsumeimaru|17:52, 3 October 2009 (MDT)}}

:I know... One of the servers got changed around a bit and as such the tavern is not configured right; another is that, as a discussion, we are not positive if we want a chat room. It seems to be there are differing opinions about. --[[User:Green Dragon|Green Dragon]] 20:40, 3 October 2009 (MDT)

::The Tavern has been discontinued. See also [[Discussion:The Tavern: use, expansion, and availability.]]. --[[User:Green Dragon|Green Dragon]] 20:33, 21 June 2010 (UTC)

== Prestige Classes Epic Section ==

:''Discussion moved to [[Talk:Omniarcanist of Caladon (3.5e Prestige Class)#Epic Section]] --[[User:Green Dragon|Green Dragon]] 14:18, 13 October 2009 (MDT).''

== Surgo's Deletions ==

I was just looking through some history and can I ask what MW is in reference to here:

"''I restored all of the deleted pages right after they were wrongly deleted. Please learn something about MW before posting here (it's comparable to '''clicking''' the links above and '''looking''' at them). --[[User:Green Dragon|Green Dragon]] 14:52, 10 September 2009 (MDT)''"

Thanks. --[[User:Sabre070|Sabre070]] 15:15, 15 October 2009 (MDT)

:MW is always MediaWiki. Where was this response? If you source it or supply a link I can better let you know what I meant. --[[User:Green Dragon|Green Dragon]] 20:06, 20 October 2009 (MDT)

::It is on [[Requests for Adminship/Surgo2|Surgo's 2nd nomination]] for adminship. --[[User:Sabre070|Sabre070]] 01:44, 22 October 2009 (MDT)

:::Surgo was not following the deletion policy. I had to restore pages he/she wrongly deleted. For this to make more sense to you maybe [http://www.dandwiki.com/w/index.php?title=Special:Log&type=delete&user=Surgo&page=&pattern=&limit=500&offset=0 this] is a better associated link (the blue links are restored - the red are deleted). If you see any other problems please let me know (where he/she deleted good content). --[[User:Green Dragon|Green Dragon]] 17:49, 25 October 2009 (MDT)

::::With the current deletion policy (that on [[:Category:Candidates for Deletion]]) he did not break any rules. It states: "In most cases 14 days after a page is nominated for deletion it will be deleted." Hence, there was no reason for those not to be deleted. Either that or you use the argument that it also says: "When nominating an incomplete page for deletion please make sure that it is not being actively improved upon." Which implies that it must be an incomplete page, though on a wiki nothing is ever complete so that cannot be an argument against it. I would like to know how you think that Surgo wasn't following the deletion policy and then we can amend it to make it clearer. --[[User:Sabre070|Sabre070]] 22:41, 25 October 2009 (MDT)

:::::The pages had zero reason to be deleted. Were nominated for deletion a day before and were deleted right after. That's breaking the rules. Watch out; or you'll get banned. I've explained this enough times. I'm done explaining it. --[[User:Green Dragon|Green Dragon]] 22:47, 25 October 2009 (MDT)

::::::Actually, you had never explained that on Surgo's nomination page (and I haven't seen it anywhere else). They were nominated for deletion at least two weeks before: Aug 13 2009 nomination and 4 September 2009 deletion for many of them. There reason for deletion was that the author did not want them on the wiki, in the past that has been accepted though after recent events it was decided un-officially that it would not be, this was not put on the deletion page. --[[User:Sabre070|Sabre070]] 23:08, 25 October 2009 (MDT)

:::::::Oh, your right about the times. That's probably why I did not say that on the nomination. It's because it is good content - one should never delete good content. "''I restored all of the deleted pages right after they were wrongly deleted.''" --[[User:Green Dragon|Green Dragon]] 23:19, 25 October 2009 (MDT)

::::::::I still think we need to clarify the deletion policy. Though my thoughts on the articles on this wiki are that they should be owned by the contributers and can be deleted by them if they wish. --[[User:Sabre070|Sabre070]] 05:03, 26 October 2009 (MDT)

:::::::::That's not how they are. They are under the GNU FDL "''If you don't want your writing to be edited mercilessly and redistributed at will, then don't submit it here.''" for example. If one reads the the GNU FDL 1.2 then you will see more as to what I am talking about. And the deletion time frame is a little variable — the important part is that no playable, good, etc content gets deleted. That's the main idea. If you read the "Adminship" message it explains deletion a bit from an admin side and the category explains deletion from a wiki-side. Please keep in mind that was just Surgo's 2nd adminship — not the reason for (h)im/er being banned. --[[User:Green Dragon|Green Dragon]] 15:03, 26 October 2009 (MDT)

== Edit Summary Question ==

You just told me what barnstars are, and I thank you, though I had guessed their purpose, 'twas a kind gesture. But I was wondering why you edited it with the summary "Discussions get archived not removed....". Would you care to elaborate on your reasoning, or was it not pertaining to me? --[[User:SgtLion|SgtLion]] 13:14, 20 October 2009 (MDT)

:Basically, don't just delete something from your page, archive it. --[[User:Sabre070|Sabre070]] 15:09, 20 October 2009 (MDT)

::Yes, you may not have noticed, but if you look at the actual [http://www.dandwiki.com/w/index.php?title=User_talk:SgtLion&diff=420227&oldid=420152 diff] in question, he re-added the welcome message you had previously removed. That was what he was actually talking about in the summary.  [[User:Hooper|''' Hooper ''']][[User talk:Hooper|  talk  ]][[Special:Contributions/Hooper|  contribs  ]][[Special:Emailuser/Hooper|  email  ]] 16:16, 20 October 2009 (MDT)

:::I replied and used the edit summary to explain my edit. --[[User:Green Dragon|Green Dragon]] 20:05, 20 October 2009 (MDT)

::::Ah, right, that was a mistake on my part. Thank you, everyone. --[[User:SgtLion|SgtLion]] 23:59, 20 October 2009 (MDT)

:::::No problem. --[[User:Green Dragon|Green Dragon]] 20:35, 21 June 2010 (UTC)

== Talosoi ==

A few days ago, I created the talosoi, a race of apelike people who live in dense jungles and ride giant wasps around. I decided to put it here, to share it with everyone else. But, since I didn't know anything about wiki formatting then, I put all of the separate types of talosoi as its own creature. Before I could realize my mistake, I put 6 new creatures on here, each of them a different talosoi (eg Talosoi Archer, Talosoi Shaman, Talosoi Chieftan, etc.). I wanted to know if there was anyway I could move all of those creatures to a single page. If was not, I would want to know if I could delete these pages and start again with the same creatures, but just under a different name (instead of talosoi, then it would be toldosoi or something like that). Thanks! {{Unsigned|Breo sabre|20:50, 21 October 2009 (MDT)}}

:If you merge them all onto one page (save the ones you cannot - the mounts; wasps, etc.) and add [[Template:Delete]] to the now merged ones it should cover your problem. Although one ''can'' "merge" all the pages together with their respective revision histories it's a long process and complicated; it's easier this way. --[[User:Green Dragon|Green Dragon]] 23:00, 21 October 2009 (MDT)

== D20 Modern/4e Material? ==

:''Discussion moved from [[User talk:Tabris#D20/4e Issues]]'' --[[User:Green Dragon|Green Dragon]] 17:42, 27 October 2009 (MDT)

Please do not move my weapon contributions (namely flashbang, phosphorus grenade and smoke bomb.) as they were not made for d20 modern but instead as homebrew weapons for the dnd 4e game which I DM for.

If there is a way to set my creations to private please let me know as I do not want my contributions to be edited at all. I like them as they are but I do not know how to change the editing options to locked/protected. {{Unsigned|Tabris|01:23, 27 October 2009 (MDT)}}

:Please read the warning when you are editing on the site. It reads as follows: ''"If you don't want your writing to be edited mercilessly and redistributed at will, then don't submit it here."''.  [[User:Hooper|''' Hooper ''']][[User talk:Hooper|  talk  ]][[Special:Contributions/Hooper|  contribs  ]][[Special:Emailuser/Hooper|  email  ]] 06:36, 27 October 2009 (MDT)

::Thats not helpful at all Hooper, I'm aware of this however my equipment is posted under 4e equipment for a reason: It's 4e equipment. {{Unsigned|Tabris|15:27, 27 October 2009 (MDT)}}

:::I believe that the reasons some of the pages have been misappropriated is that they were not all originally coded the way fourth edition material should of been, giving the appearance of D&D or D20 equipment. Admins are busy so it is easy to see how that may have been the issue. Anyways, please note that the identifier on the pages should read "(4e Equipment)" not "(4E Equipment)" and in the future I wouldn't edit war with an admin, just make a nice and simple explanation and ask why they think something is not what it is ''(i.e. in this case just ask what is giving GD the impression it is D20 equipment and then fix that before doing all this reverting)''. Just usually not a good idea to remove admin edits.  [[User:Hooper|''' Hooper ''']][[User talk:Hooper|  talk  ]][[Special:Contributions/Hooper|  contribs  ]][[Special:Emailuser/Hooper|  email  ]] 16:28, 27 October 2009 (MDT)

::::Please sign your posts using four tildes, like so: <nowiki>~~~~</nowiki>. Please see your talk page for more info.  [[User:Hooper|''' Hooper ''']][[User talk:Hooper|  talk  ]][[Special:Contributions/Hooper|  contribs  ]][[Special:Emailuser/Hooper|  email  ]] 16:29, 27 October 2009 (MDT)

:::::You can move them to a subuserpage of your userpage area; at most (keeping them 4e) and changing the templates around so they do not show up anywhere. Simply flashbang grenades, phosphorus grenades and smoke bombs do not fit into 4e. --[[User:Green Dragon|Green Dragon]] 17:42, 27 October 2009 (MDT)

::::::I moved them back to 4e. 4e will be considered a rule set I guess with nothing to do with a time frame. --[[User:Green Dragon|Green Dragon]] 20:46, 21 June 2010 (UTC)

== Designating Overdeity ==

Hey, I got a question about the deities. When making them, I'm confused about how to write the "What type of god is it" part. If you look Saran up, you see on the page, there is that error, I need help on that. Thanks! {{Unsigned|CelticHippie|20:17, 28 October 2009 (MDT)}}

:That should help. See the diff in question to see the edit change. --[[User:Green Dragon|Green Dragon]] 21:52, 28 October 2009 (MDT)

== Canidates for Deletion ==

Hey GD. I was looking through some of the articles in the Deletion Catagory. There are more than a few that have been unedited and abandoned for many months. I say this because I have about 15 articles I made myself that need to be deleted. How often does this site clear out those pages? Thanks. (Wow, I just noticed their are 3 pages worth of stuff waiting to be deleted. Almost 500 articles.) --[[User:Jay Freedman|Jay Freedman]] 02:31, 29 October 2009 (MDT)

:It's getting worked on... Just keep adding them. A matter of weeks ago it was more then double the current amount (six or more pages) - so it's slowly getting cleared. Everything has to get by-hand looked at (since "What links here", talk pages, links, etc can be strange) so it's just a work in progress. They will get deleted though if need be (or authorship stripped). --[[User:Green Dragon|Green Dragon]] 16:53, 29 October 2009 (MDT)

::Sounds good. Thanks for the update. --[[User:Jay Freedman|Jay Freedman]] 20:19, 31 October 2009 (MDT)

== Arcane Ranger Rating ==

I rated the [[Talk:Arcane Ranger (3.5e Class)|Arcane Ranger]] class, but the number of ratings nor the overall ratings didn't change, why is this? --[[User:Zackrb|Zackrb]] 06:33, 2 November 2009 (UTC)

:You posted your rating on the talk page. But, that is only half of rating. You must edit the article itself to reflect your rating. Their are placeholders for ratings when editing the article itself. Updating these causes a overall rating to appear on the article when viewed. (Please remember to sign your posts.) --[[User:129.123.245.182|129.123.245.182]] 03:04, 2 November 2009 (MST)

::I got it. --[[User:Green Dragon|Green Dragon]] 21:45, 21 June 2010 (UTC)

== Deletion ==

Her im kinda new here and a was gonna set up a page for my friends to use my Digimon and Pokemon races and classes. I know that might sound stupid but hey to each his own, any way you put up my renamon page for deletion and a wasen't done with it yet i'm not sure wether it was because of that or the fact that it's a digimon, if you don't want digimon and stuff on there a will not put it on there ''':)''' just let me know.

(p.s.) i did'nt understand the way you set stuff up till now so i understand if the page was just in the way. {{Unsigned|Corycodered|01:00, 12 November 2009 (MDT)}}

:Well what is it? A creature? It's not formatted like anything... If you follow a preload (go to a certain section and click the "add" button — that text) and update the current thing to fit that the delete template will be removed. If you don't want to do that of course you can move it to a subuserpage of yours (e.g. User:Corycodered/Renamon) then no formatting is needed. But one of those is needed for the delete template to be removed. --[[User:Green Dragon|Green Dragon]] 01:17, 12 November 2009 (MST)

== Deletion ==

I'd like my user page deleted, if possible. Thanks --[[User:Palantini|Palantini]] 16:51, 14 November 2009 (MST)

:Done. No problem. --[[User:Green Dragon|Green Dragon]] 21:28, 21 June 2010 (UTC)

== WikiRPS Shutdown ==

Hello. I joined this wiki from the WikiRPS, and I've been trying to find out who is running that wiki. While I could and probably will eventually get active here, right now I'm more driven towards working on a more broad system, adapting historical, current, and sci-fi culture, weapons, and technology to an open RPS, not necessarily D&D. Thanks. --[[User:Madkcat|Madkcat]] 00:47, 18 November 2009 (MST)

:Pretty sure [[User:Cuthalion|Cuthalion]] is, although [[User:Blue Dragon|Blue Dragon]] may be as well (I am not sure), or DotHectate ([http://www.wikirps.org/wiki/Special:Listusers/sysop Special:Listadmins]). --[[User:Green Dragon|Green Dragon]] 00:53, 18 November 2009 (MST)

::As far as I have been able to find, [[User:Cuthalion|Cuthalion]] hasn't been active since December '07, [[User:Blue Dragon|Blue Dragon]] June '09 and DotHectate ([http://www.wikirps.org/wiki/Special:Listusers/sysop Special:Listadmins]) since June '08 on WikiRPS.
::I have some ideas of what to do, and how I'd like to do it, but I don't want to start messing with the Wiki until I can talk with someone who was/is active in WikiRPS to make sure I'm not stepping on toes, or causing problems by jumping in running. --[[User:Madkcat|madkcat]] 01:18, 18 November 2009 (MST)

:::I'm not in charge on WikiRPS. This wiki, where I did the initial setup, I know what's going on. There I do not — I have maybe only gone there a matter of times. You would have to ask one of them what's going on. Sorry about that. --[[User:Green Dragon|Green Dragon]] 01:21, 18 November 2009 (MST)

::::This is Hectate, I don't recall if I have a login for D&D Wiki so I'm just posting anon-ishly. Cuthalion was about the only admin during my time over there and he stopped posted at the noted time frame, which — as the only other active user — promoted me to admin at some point. I changed IRL jobs and didn't have as much free time to keep working on my custom rule set ("Incremental") so everything kind of fell apart without anyone to maintain the wiki. It appears the wiki has been shut down as well, I suppose Green Dragon could confirm that for us since he was running the hosted server? Either way, if there's anything you need I might be able to recall the general details, feel free to email me at nathaniel (spamfree-dot) mitchell (spamfree-at) gmail (spamfree-dot) com and I'll see if I can help. --[[Special:Contributions/12.109.127.254|12.109.127.254]] 12:28, 1 June 2010 (UTC)

:::::Yes, WikiRPS has been shutdown. You would have to contact [[User:Blue Dragon|Blue Dragon]] for more details. --[[User:Green Dragon|Green Dragon]] 21:33, 21 June 2010 (UTC)

== Language Style ==

As a born British English man, I'm somewhat accustomed to the British language. But I only could assume that this D&D Wiki is American, so in my language fixing, I didn't change anything like "armor" to "Armour" or vica versa, because I was unaware of what to do about it. So now I ask you, do I correct spellings to American or British English? Or something else, if that's how you roll. --[[User:SgtLion|SgtLion]] 11:01, 22 November 2009 (MST)

:It's American English. I recommend taking a look at [[Help:Standards and Formatting (DnD Guideline)]]. --[[User:Green Dragon|Green Dragon]] 15:51, 22 November 2009 (MST)

::Guessed as much. And thanks, I'll take a look at that. Your response and help is appreciated. --[[User:SgtLion|SgtLion]] 00:02, 23 November 2009 (MST)

:::Ya, no problem. --[[User:Green Dragon|Green Dragon]] 00:36, 23 November 2009 (MST)

== Vacation ==

I am taking a short five day long vacation or so down to New Mexico. I will have limited computer access however if everyone could keep an eye out for malicious edits, vandalism, etc it would be much appreciated. --[[User:Green Dragon|Green Dragon]] 08:23, 25 November 2009 (MST)

== Slam Attacks Attack Type ==

Hi. I was trying to find out if a slam attack is like an unarmed strike for the perpose of feats. {{Unsigned|Okamo|03:51, 27 November 2009 (UTC)}}

:Please ask questions like this on [[DnD Discussions]]. --[[User:Green Dragon|Green Dragon]] 21:45, 21 June 2010 (UTC)

== Donation Updates and Feedback ==

Im the one that sent the recent 7 dollar through paypal, can you keep me updated when you guys run donation drives so i can donate what i can. Also if you dont mind can you look over some the contributions that i made since i signed up to see if you feel they are constructive. Mainly I feel in love with aura guardian but want some feedback before i keep at it. Thanks! --[[User:Starcry|Starcry]] 19:40, 28 November 2009 (UTC)

:I like the anime shadow skill and was wondering if you ever thought about making a class based on the sevaars, specifically on gau and elle. I liked your tenken class and the frost knight one, so I was just throwing the idea out there. {{Unsigned|12.132.91.167|00:42, 11 December 2009 (UTC)}}

::If I remember next time we have a donation drive then yes, I will remind you. --[[User:Green Dragon|Green Dragon]] 22:06, 21 June 2010 (UTC)

Talk:Ani-Men (3.5e Race)

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== Thoughts? ==

So, what do you folks think of the ani-men overall? I can't guarantee I'll make every change or alteration you give me, but I will always consider it (more often than not, I do change it). Basically, I want to know what you think of the ani-men, and any ideas for changes in the future. Thanks --[[User:Hanzo187|Hanzo187]] 22:55, 30 April 2008 (MDT)

:For starters I feel this page should not be considered a race because it does not outline a specific race but rather a group of races. I feel with some work this page could be made into a [[User Creature Glossary|type or subtype]]. If you wanted to not modify this page to much I would consider moving it to [[3.5e Other|other]]. Or, additionally, you could make this include new variant rules and move it to [[3.5e Rules|rules]]. I just feel that this page does not work as a race. --[[User:Green Dragon|Green Dragon]] 13:36, 1 May 2008 (MDT)

::That's fair enough. This is more of a "hub" than anything else. The ones I've shown could be seperate races unto themselves, but they share a bit of common ground in that they were victims of scientific experiments. Is this page in and of itself a race? No. It's an avenue to the races I've made. I guess I should've been more clear on that. Sorry. Hanzo187

:::I fail to see why the Savage Species rules for anthropomorphs don't fit for this as well. If there is already a system for integrating animal and human characteristics, why create a new one? --[[User:Ganre|Ganre]] 23:52, 1 May 2008 (MDT)

::::I know you've mentioned this, but I have no clue what Savage Species is. I've never seen it or heard of it. Considering I've only been playing for about a year, I only have a handful of books. I'm guessing SS is 3e and not 3.5, which is probably why I haven't heard of it. Even so, these races are drawn from animals based off the Zodiac, Greek mythology, legends, and general superstition. They have some to do with animals, but it's secondary to the myth and legend part (ex. lion-man's Courage ability, wolf-man's Fight in Packs, rabbit-man's Rabbit's Foot, monkey-man's See No Evil, Speak No Evil, Hear No Evil, among others). Sharks, in legend, were said to warn sailors of incoming danger, while rats are believed to leave sinking ships. It's the animal myths that inspired these, not the animals themselves. Besides, I don't think it's a bad thing to try this. I like making unique stuff, so I don't see anything wrong with making these, though I could use a little help with the shark-man. Thanks. Hanzo187

Discussion:Happy Birthday

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== What are the best things of the past year? ==

=== [[User:Sir Milo Teabag|Sir Milo Teabag]] 15:33, 4 February 2008 (MST) ===

I think one of the coolest things to happen to the Wiki this year was the Ultimate Monk. It may have changed the nature of Optimization on this Wiki. But, this is open to all users: fill in the coolest thing to happen in the 2nd year of DnD Wiki and why it was so cool.

=== [[User:Aarnott|Aarnott]] 22:17, 4 February 2008 (MST) ===

We got a lot of cool new users contributing and that was a great thing to see. A bigger community is a better one -- especially with a wiki.

=== [[User:Green Dragon|Green Dragon]] 12:55, 5 February 2008 (MST) ===

Quite a few things really stand out to me, however I would say ''the best'' thing that happened to D&D Wiki was the re-organization and then re-organization again of the SRD to the point where a namespace was created for the SRD and identifiers were removed, which improved searching and usability. These changes really brought the SRD in-line with normal wiki standards and really stand out to me as something that will help D&D Wiki for a while to come. Quite a few runner-ups exist, however.
;Runner-ups
#The re-organization of the [[DnD Campaign Settings|Campaign Settings]]. This actually made campaign settings usable on D&D Wiki, not just a jumbled mess. It was like sifting many grains of sand for a golden grain instead of only sifting a couple grains for a golden grain.
#The re-organization of [[3.5e Rules|Variant Rules]]. This just made it easier to see which rules really modified the core rules, and which could be implemented into a campaign with little or no changes. Plus, it looks a lot nicer now then it did.
#RfA. No system for adminship really existed until the start of this year. RfA's just brought D&D Wiki' beauacracy more in-line with all the other wiki's, which is always a good thing.
#DPL2. I know this is still new, and it has yet to be integrated everywhere where it can, however it really is showing potential. I am excited to see D&D Wiki when it just uses DPL2's.
#[[Publication List]]. I know this is still very beta and very new as well, however it really is showing potential, and I have always wanted a comprehensive list of all d20 publications to exist somewhere. I guess D&D Wiki is that somewhere. I am excited for this.
#[[UA:Variant Rules|Unearthed Arcana]]. With this, when it is fully added, we can finally compare ourselves to the SRD giants like d20srd.org and others. It's exciting.
#The change to [[Template:OGL Top]]. The size and color was silly, finally we figured out a non-obtrusive way to show a page is OGC.
#The "user edits" extension. It's just provides a good feature, and the wording on Blue Dragon makes for a good laugh.
#[[DnD Discussion|Discussions]]. Although I do not participate in them as much as I would like to, they serve a valuable function and really bring the community together. This was a very good idea.
#Quite a few others, I just cannot think of them right now.
;Things I have not been so proud of
#Feats. Their just a mess by now, and the landing page looks terrible. I wish something would happen to them, however that seems very far fetched. Also, it seems as time goes on they just get worse and worse. Strange.
#Mkill's nomination for adminship. I was rude, he was rude, it was just a mess. I could have handled it better, and I did not.
#<s>The Tavern</s>. It's not used, and it not really wiki-ish. Although I can see the purpose, I feel it may push visitors away from the site after they log on and see that no one else is on. Dunno, some people just like it or dislike it. I'm one that dislikes it.
#My userpage. It looks bad, and no matter what I seem to do with it it just looks worse. Ugh. I need to spend more time on this.
#Most likely some other ones as well...

=== [[User:Pwsnafu|Pwsnafu]] 15:49, 6 February 2008 (MST) ===

Not being an admin, and having retired from gaming until I save money for 4E, the second most significant thing for me last year was finding out that [[darkness]] can be used as a light source. The most significant was 4E announcement. This site doesn't compare with the juggernauts of D&D websites, and 4E gives all sites a level playing field. Now that SRD has been nerfed and all.

Things I would like to see: a 4E namespace, a better rating system, and more ratings.

===  [[User:Hooper|''' Hooper ''']][[User talk:Hooper|  talk  ]][[Special:Contributions/Hooper|  contribs  ]][[Special:Emailuser/Hooper|  email  ]] 23:29, 9 February 2010 (UTC) ===

In honor of what we've done for previous birthdays, here are the things I enjoyed the last year:

#Hitting our [[Talk:Main_Page#Two_Millionth_View.21.21.21.21.21.21.21.21|two millionth]] view.
#Getting rid of all the trash
#Getting to [[Talk:Main_Page/Archive_3#50.2C000_Pages|50,000 pages]]
#Increasing our number of users ''(don't recall the last milestone we hit - 3 or 4k?)''



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Grace Ritualist (3.5e Feat)

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|summary=Optionally dispel Abjurations cast on you for [[SRD:Healing Domain|Healing domain]] spell slots.
|prereqs=able to cast 2nd level divine spells
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|benefit=You may dispel an Abjuration spell cast on you with no less than half its duration. If you have an empty spell slot of the same level as that Abjuration, fill that slot with the spell from the [[SRD:Healing Domain|Healing Domain]] with the same level.
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Establish Estate (3.5e Feat)

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|summary=Marks out an area of land as falling under your power.
|prereqs=[[Witch (DnD Class)|Witch]] level 18 [[Wis]] 17[[Cha]] 15 [[SRD:Spellcraft Skill|Spellcraft]] 12 ranks [[SRD:Profession Skill|Profession]] (village witch) 16 ranks [[SRD:Psicraft Skill|Psicraft]] 8 ranks
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|benefit=Marks out an area of land as falling under your power. This is done by placing a [[Witch (DnD Class)#Witchglyph)|witchglyph]] at the center of the lowest level of your [[Spirit Bond (DnD Feat)|bondmate]]'s tower. The estate can be enlarged once established by placing further witchglyphs within the border of the estate. The area covered by the estate is determined by the power of the controlling witchglyph(s).

While you are within the borders of your estate(s), you gain additional power points per day, along with bonuses to Diplomacy, Gather Information, Knowledge (local), Knowledge (nature), Spellcraft, Profession (village witch), and Psicraft. The exact bonuses are determined by the strength of the witchglyphs controlling the estate(s). The extra power points are lost as soon as you step over a border.
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Spirit Bond (3.5e Feat)

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===Spirit Bond [Special]===

A bond between two characters which grants telepathic powers to each while both are alive.

=====Prerequisite=====


Witch or magician level 12. A willing partner of the other class and identical level.
You can never attain more than one level more than your bondmate, and can only ever be part of one spirit bond at any time.

=====Benefit=====

You gain a continuous, [[SRD:Permanency|permanent]] ''[[SRD:Telepathic Bond | telepathic bond]]'' with your bondmate, which allows you to ''[[SRD:Locate Creature | locate]]'' and ''[[SRD:Soul Scry | soul scry]]'' him or her at will.

=====Special=====

Prerequisite for [[Witch Lady (DnD Prestige Class)|witch lady]] and [[Mage Lord (DnD Prestige Class)|mage lord]] prestige classes. Note that this bond, particularly the locate aspect, enables a witch lady to act as an anchor for her bondmate when he travels the planes, ensuring that he can always find his way home.

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Build Witch's Cottage (3.5e Feat)

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|summary=Design and erect a cottage suitable for a witch to live in, including furnishings. A cottage enhances a witch's crafting, research and psionic abilities. Witch's must build their own cottages.
|prereqs=[[Wis]] 15, [[Str]] 11, [[Witchcraft Skill (DnD Other)|Witchcraft]] 8 ranks
|benefit=You gain a circumstance bonus of +2 to checks on skills [[SRD:Appraise Skill|Appraise]], [[SRD:Craft Skill|Craft]] (alchemy), [[SRD:Craft Skill|Craft]] (whittling), [[SRD:Decipher Script Skill|Decipher Script]], [[SRD:Psicraft Skill|Psicraft]], [[SRD:Profession Skill|Profession]] (village witch), [[SRD:Spellcraft Skill|Spellcraft]] and [[Witchcraft (DnD Skill)|Witchcraft]] while occupying your cottage.
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Zealous Smite (3.5e Feat)

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===Zealous Smite [Special]===

The strength of your faith flows through you, allowing you to inflict terrible blows against your enemies.

=====Prerequisite=====

[[Smite]] ability

=====Benefit=====

You can use your [[Smite]] ability one additional time per day.

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A character can choose this feat multiple times, gaining one additional Smite attack each time this feat is chosen. If you have multiple Smite abilities that are usable against different opponents you must choose which particular Smite ability you wish to improve each time you take this feat.

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Usurp Spell (3.5e Feat)

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===Usurp Spell [Special]===

You can attempt to steal control of any spell that you successfully counterspell.

=====Prerequisite=====

[[Knowledge]] (arcana) 5 ranks, [[Spellcraft]] 5 ranks

=====Benefit=====

After a successful [[counterspell]] using a prepared spell rather than a dispel check, you can attempt to steal control of the spell being cast. You immediately make an opposed caster level check (1d20 + caster level) against the original caster of the spell. If successful, you usurp control of the spell and can make all decisions regarding the spell’s target and effect. Level based spell variables, including the range and point of origin for the spell, are still based on the original caster of the spell. If you fail the opposed caster level check made to usurp the spell, the spell is negated just as if the spell had been counterspelled normally.

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Unique Spell (3.5e Feat)

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===Unique Spell [Special, Magical]===

You gain access to and learn a single spell from any spell list.

=====Prerequisite=====

Ability to cast 3rd level spells

=====Benefit=====

Choose one spellcasting class. You learn one additional spell of any level up to two lower than the highest level spell that you can currently cast in your chosen class, chosen from any class spell list. The chosen spell is added to your spells known or spellbook and is treated in all ways as being two levels higher than the spell’s actual level. If a spell appears on multiple spell lists, you must take it from the list where it has the highest spell level. The spell is considered divine if you are a divine caster and arcane if you are an arcane caster.

=====Special=====

This feat can be chosen multiple times, each time enabling you to learn one additional spell. If a spell requires a divine focus you must obtain an appropriate holy symbol to use for the casting. All material components are still required no matter your class.

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Strength of the Pious (3.5e Feat)

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===Strength Of The Pious [Special]===

You double the duration of one of your granted powers.

=====Prerequisite=====

[[Domain]] with a granted power with a limited duration.

=====Benefit=====

Choose one of your granted powers with a limited duration. The duration of the power is doubled.

=====Special=====

This feat may be taken multiple times but a different granted power must be chosen each time.

{{Netbook of Feats Author|Jerry M. Chaney II|2002}}
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Shield Undead (3.5e Feat)

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===Shield Undead [Special]===

[[Undead]] under your control or command are resistant to the turn/rebuke attempts of others.

=====Prerequisite=====

Ability to [[rebuke undead]], Undead Mastery

=====Benefit=====

[[Undead]] under your control or command increase their [[SRD:Turn Resistance|Turn Resistance]] by +2 when resisting the turn or rebuke attempts of others.

=====Special=====

This feat can be taken more than once, each time increasing the [[SRD:Turn Resistance|Turn Resistance]] of [[Undead]] under your control or command by +2 when resisting the [[SRD:Turn Undead|turn/rebuke]] attempts of others.

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Quicken Divine Channeling (3.5e Feat)

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===Quicken Divine Channeling [Special]===

You can channel energy into a Divine feat with a moment's thought.

=====Prerequisite=====

Ability to [[turn or rebuke undead]], [[Cha]] 13, [[Extra Turning]], Quicken Turning

=====Benefit=====

You can channel energy to activate another divine feat as a [[free action]] a number of times per day equal to your [[Charisma]] bonus. This counts against your ability to use one quickened ability per round. You can still only channel energy to power one [[divine feat]] or turning attempt per round.

=====Normal=====

Divine feats normal require a [[standard action]] to channel the requisite energy to power the feat.

=====Special=====

You can take this feat more than once, each time gaining the ability to use quicken a divine feat one more time per day.

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Profane Wraithspawn (3.5e Feat)

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===Profane Wraithspawn [Divine]===

Beings drained of Constitution by your Profane Wraith Strike feat become wraiths under your control.

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[[Rebuke undead]] ability, [[Knowledge]] (Religion) 14 ranks, [[Extra Turning]], [[Profane Ghoul Strike (DnD Feat)|Profane Ghoul Strike]], [[Profane Wight Strike (DnD Feat)|Profane Wight Strike]], [[Profane Wraith Strike (DnD Feat)|Profane Wraith Strike]]

=====Benefit=====

Any [[humanoid]] slain by use of your [[Profane Wraith Strike (DnD Feat)|Profane Wraith Strike]] feat becomes a [[wraith]] under your control within 1d4 rounds. Created [[wraiths]] are automatically under your control but count against the maximum number of hit dice that you can normally command through use of your [[rebuke undead]] power (equal to 1 HD/level). Wraiths created in excess of this number are not in your control, are immune to further use of your [[rebuke undead]] ability and will immediately attack you, although you may voluntarily relinquish command of any commanded undead creature or creatures in order to command new ones.

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Humanoids slain by Profane Wraith Strike do not rise again as wights under your control.

=====Special=====

Wraiths created through use of this feat cannot spawn other wraiths while they remain in your control.

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Practiced Turning (3.5e Feat)

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===Practiced Turning [Special]===

You can use your turn/rebuke ability as if you were up to 4 levels higher.

=====Prerequisite=====

[[Wis]] 13, [[Cha]] 13, Ability to [[turn or rebuke undead]].

=====Benefit=====

You can use your [[turn or rebuke undead]] ability as though you were 4 levels higher in whichever class grants you the ability, not exceeding your hit dice or character level.

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Periodic Re-Awakening (3.5e Feat)

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===Periodic Re-Awakening [Special, Magical]===

You can alter the spells you know.

=====Prerequisite=====

Ability to learn a new spell in place of one you already know

=====Benefit=====

Whenever you are able to learn a new spell in place of one you already know you may change one spell of each level that is one or more levels lower than the highest level spell you can cast. You may use this ability when you first acquire this feat.

=====Normal=====

Most classes may only change one spell, and must choose a spell two levels lower than the highest level they can cast.

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Penetrating Ki Strike (3.5e Feat)

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== Penetrating Ki Strike [Special] ==

You can use your mastery of ki to make an unarmed strike as if delivering a touch attack.

=====Prerequisite=====

[[Wis]] 13, [[Improved Unarmed Strike]], [[Stunning Fist]], [[Ki Strike]] class ability, Base attack bonus +9

=====Benefit=====

You can resolve your next unarmed melee attack as a touch attack, ignoring any benefit to your opponent's Armor Class provided by armor, shield or natural armor. Each use of Penetrating Ki Strike counts as three of your stunning attacks per day and you must declare use of this feat prior to your attack roll. A failed attack roll ruins your attempt and wastes three stunning attacks. Penetrating Ki Strike is a supernatural ability.

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Natural Harmony (3.5e Feat)

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===Natural Harmony [Special]===

You have spent significant time making friends with both the fauna and the flora of your domain.

=====Prerequisite=====

[[SRD:Druid#Wild Empathy|Wild Empathy]] and [[Animal Companion]] abilities, [[Enchanted Animal Companion (DnD Feat)|Enchanted Animal Companion]], [[Knowledge]] (Nature) 5 ranks

=====Benefit=====

Your [[Animal Companion]] class ability now also affects [[Plant Type|plant creatures]] (normally immune to mind-influencing effects). You may also use your Wild Empathy class ability against [[vermin]] and [[plants]], but the check suffers a -6 penalty.

=====Normal=====

Animal Companion only affects animals. Wild Empathy works on animals at normal effect; against magical beasts it suffers a -4 penalty.

=====Comments=====

Due to changes between edition 3.0 and 3.5 the mechanics of this feat have been substantially altered, although the spirit of the feat remains the same.

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Mixed Channeling (3.5e Feat)

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===Mixed Channeling [Special]===

You can channel positive or negative energy.

=====Prerequisite=====

Ability to [[turn or rebuke undead]], Must worship a god with a neutral alignment, Must have a neutral alignment

=====Benefit=====

When you pray for spells you must choose whether you wish to channel positive or negative energy for the remainder of the day. You may choose again each time you pray for spells. When channeling positive energy you can [[turn undead]] and spontaneously cast cure spells. When channeling negative energy you can [[command undead]] and spontaneously cast inflict spells.

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Linked Resistance (3.5e Feat)

2010-09-03T15:41:17Z

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{{3.5e Feat
|name=Linked Resistance
|types=Special
|summary=When touching your familiar you can benefit from its [[Spell Resistance]] (SR).
|prereqs=[[Familiar]] with SR
|benefit=As a standard action when touching your [[familiar]] you can share in your familiar's SR until your next action.
|normal=SR cannot normally be shared between creatures.
|special=
}}

'''Notes:''' At the sole discretion of your DM, this feat may be extended for use with a special mount, special companion, fiendish servant or even to a psicrystal that grants Power Resistance.

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Ki Sense (3.5e Feat)

2010-09-03T15:40:24Z

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|name=Ki Sense
|types=Special, Martial Style
|summary=Your self-awareness and mastery of ki allow you to intuitively sense the presence of danger.
|prereqs=[[Wis]] 13, [[Monk]] base AC bonus 1
|benefit=You can make a [[Will]] save (DC 20) to avoid being caught surprised or [[flat-footed]]. On a successful save, you can act during the surprise round even if you would otherwise be surprised and you can retain your [[Dex]] bonus to armor class even if you would otherwise be caught [[flat-footed]].
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Ki of the Masters (3.5e Feat)

2010-09-03T15:39:37Z

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|name=Ki Of The Masters
|types=Special
|summary=You have learned to channel your Ki into devastating unarmed attacks.
|prereqs=[[Wis]] 13, [[Str]] 11, [[Improved Unarmed Strike]], [[Stunning Fist]], Base attack bonus +3
|benefit=On a successful [[unarmed strike]] you can add your [[Wisdom]] modifier instead of your [[Strength]] modifier to the damage roll. This feat is an extraordinary ability.
|normal=
|special=
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{{Netbook of Feats Author|Eric D. Harry|2001}}
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Innate Specialist (3.5e Feat)

2010-09-03T15:38:53Z

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|name=Innate Specialist
|types=Special
|summary=You have a remarkable affinity for a school of magic, similar to a specialist wizard.
|prereqs=Ability to cast arcane spells without preparation (like a [[bard]] or [[sorcerer]])
|benefit=Choose one school of magic (and its associated prohibited schools), per the wizard's [[school]] specialization rules. You can learn one additional spell per spell level that you can cast as long as this additional spell is from your specialty school. You do not gain the ability to cast more spells per day nor do you gain a bonus on [[Spellcraft]] checks when dealing with your specialty school. Spells from your chosen prohibited school(s) cannot be cast and are removed from your spell list. If you cast spells from a limited spell list (like a bard), you cannot choose [[Evocation]] or [[Necromancy]] as prohibited schools.
|normal=[[bards]] and [[sorcerers]] cannot normally choose to specialize in a school of magic.
|special=This feat can be taken more than once, but each time it must apply to a different spontaneous spellcaster class.
}}

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Infer Spell (3.5e Feat)

2010-09-03T15:38:05Z

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|name=Infer Spell
|types=Special, Magical
|summary=You can learn spells from magic items.
|prereqs=[[SRD:Wizard's Spellbook|Spellbook]]
|benefit=You can learn spells from magic items. You must study the item for one day per level of the spell you are attempting to learn. The item must be able to produce an effect identical to the spell you are learning. After the period of study you must make a [[Spellcraft]] check identical to copying a spell from another spell book (DC 15+ the level of the spell). If you fail you are subject to the same limitations as when failing to copy a spell from a spellbook. The spell must be one you are normally permitted to learn.
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Improved Undead Control (3.5e Feat)

2010-09-03T15:37:19Z

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{{3.5e Feat
|name=Improved Undead Control
|types=Special
|summary=You can control more undead than normal.
|prereqs=[[Rebuke undead]] ability
|benefit=You can command a number of [[undead]] with total Hit Dice equal to 2 per level. This also increases the number of undead that you can animate and control with the ''[[animate dead]]'' spell to 6 Hit Dice per caster level, although you can't create more Hit Dice of undead with a single casting of ''[[animate dead]]'' greater than triple your caster level.
|normal=You can normally command a total number of undead with Hit Dice equal to your level (or control a total number of undead animated through use of the ''[[animate dead]]'' spell equal to 4 Hit Dice per caster level, with a single casting producing up to double your caster level in Hit Dice of undead).
|special=This feat can be taken multiple times, and stacks with itself. Each time it is taken, you add +1 Hit Dice/level to your limit when controlling undead through your rebuke undead ability and +2 Hit Dice/level to the limit of the animate dead spell and +1 Hit Dice/level to the limit of a single casting of the ''[[animate dead]]'' spell.
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'''Comments:'''
This feat was previously known as Undead Mastery. The name change was made because of a conflict with the recently introduced epic feat of the same name from the System Reference Document.

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Improved Monk AC Bonus (3.5e Feat)

2010-09-03T15:36:28Z

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|name=Improved Monk AC Bonus
|types=Special
|summary=Your sixth sense is more developed than normal, allowing you a better chance to dodge blows in combat.
|prereqs=[[Monk]] level 1
|benefit=Add +1 to your [[monk]] AC bonus.
|normal=
|special=You can take this feat multiple times, each time increasing your monk AC bonus by 1.
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Improved Divine Connection (3.5e Feat)

2010-09-03T15:35:42Z

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|name=Improved Divine Connection
|types=Special
|summary=Your broad knowledge of divine lore has given you greater access to applying this knowledge.
|prereqs=[[Knowledge]] (Religion) 13 ranks, Access to any four [[domain|domains]], Ability to [[turn or rebuke undead]]
|benefit=You gain one extra slot for each level that must be filled with a [[domain]] spell. You may not prepare the same domain spell more than once, unless it appears on more than one of your domain lists.
|normal=[[Clerics]] can prepare one domain spell per level, regardless of how many domains the [[cleric]] has access to.
|special=You may take this feat more than once. Each time you do, you must have access to an additional two domains.
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Improved Animal Companion (3.5e Feat)

2010-09-03T15:34:51Z

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{{3.5e Feat
|name=Improved Animal Companion
|types=Special
|summary=Your animal companion is more powerful than normal.
|prereqs=[[Animal Companion]] ability
|benefit=Your effective level for the [[Animal Companion]] ability is three levels higher than normal. As noted in the SRD this improves the abilities of your existing animal companion, or alternatively allows you to attract a more powerful one.
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|special=You may select this feat multiple times. It stacks with itself.
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'''Comments:''' This feat was originally known as Extra Animal Companions. Due to changes between edition 3.0 and 3.5 the mechanics of this feat have been substantially altered, although the spirit of the feat remains the same.

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Healing Ki Touch (3.5e Feat)

2010-09-03T15:33:41Z

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|summary=You can heal others just like you can heal yourself.
|prereqs=[[Monk]] level 9
|benefit=You can use your Wholeness of Body class ability to heal others by touch, in a manner exactly like you can heal yourself.
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Greater Spell Mastery (3.5e Feat)

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|name=Greater Spell Mastery
|types=Special
|summary=You can cast some of the spells previously mastered with Spell Mastery without preparation.
|prereqs=[[Spell Mastery]]
|benefit=Choose a number of spells equal to your [[Charisma]] modifier that you have previously mastered with [[Spell Mastery]]. You can now cast these spells at their normal level without preparation, exactly like a [[sorcerer]]. This allows you to prepare a full set of spells, yet still cast any spell selected by this feat by exchanging the spell energy of one of your prepared spells of equal or higher level.
|normal=[[Wizards]] must normally prepare spells in order to cast them.
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}}

'''Example:''' Hhune is a 10th level [[wizard]] with [[Int]] 16 (+3) and [[Cha]] 13 (+1). He has previously selected the [[Spell Mastery]] feat, selecting three spells based on his [[Int]] modifier (''[[dimension door]], [[magic missile]]'' and ''[[lightning bolt]]''). He next selects the Greater Spell Mastery feat, choosing one spell based on his [[Cha]] modifier that he has previously learned with [[Spell Mastery]] (''[[magic missile]]''). He no longer needs to prepare ''[[magic missile]]'' and can now prepare his normal allotment of first level spells per day (5 total, 4 plus 1 for Int 16). Whenever he decides to cast ''[[magic missile]]'', he can cast this spell in place of one of his prepared 1st-level spells, casting up to a maximum of 5 ''[[magic missile]]'' or first level spells per day in any combination. He could also choose to cast ''[[magic missile]]'' by trading in one of his higher level prepared spells in a similar manner.

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Greater Divine Dominion (3.5e Feat)

2010-09-03T15:14:51Z

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|name=Greater Divine Dominion
|types=Special, Magical
|summary=Gain the domain powers from a divine dominion
|prereqs=[[Knowledge]] (religion) 9 ranks, Any [[domain]]
|prereq_feat1=Divine Dominion
|benefit=You gain the [[domain]] powers from a domain selected using the Divine Dominion feat.
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|special=This feat can be taken several times for different domains that you have chosen with Divine Dominion.
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Familiar Feat (3.5e Feat)

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{{3.5e Feat
|name=Familiar Feat
|types=Special
|summary=Your familiar learns a new feat.
|prereqs=A [[familiar]]
|benefit=Your familiar learns any one new feat it can use. This new feat is unavailable to you. In many cases, familiars can learn [[3.5e Feats|feats]] you could not, such as [[:Category:Creature Feat|monster feats]]. If your familiar dies any replacement will also know this extra feat, or a similar feat if the one taken is not available to it (e.g. your former familiar had a feat which required a Fly speed and you choose an earthbound replacement familiar).
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|special=Your DM may let you apply this feat to a special mount, special companion, infernal companion, or similar pet.
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Familiar Feat Merge (3.5e Feat)

2010-09-03T15:13:09Z

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{{3.5e Feat
|name=Familiar Feat Merge
|types=Special
|summary=Your familiar learns all the feats you know.
|prereqs=A [[familiar]]
|benefit=Your familiar can use all your feats, just as it can use your skills.
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}}

'''Notes:''' Many feats are quite useless to familiars.

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Familiar Focus (3.5e Feat)

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|name=Familiar Focus
|types=Special
|summary=You compensate for any lack in focus when developing your familiar
|prereqs=A [[familiar]]
|benefit=The abilities of your familiar are now based on your character level, not your class level.
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'''Notes:''' Your DM may let you apply this feat to a paladin's mount, psicrystal or similar pet.

{{Netbook of Feats Author|Eric D. Harry, Carl Cramér, Eric D. Harry|2001}}
{{Netbook of Feats Balance|4.65|5.00|3.50|4.75|5.00|5.00}}

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Familiar Range Extension (3.5e Feat)

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{{3.5e Feat
|name=Familiar Range Extension
|types=Special
|summary=You can communicate with your familiar over long distances
|prereqs=A [[familiar]]
|benefit=Your empathic communication with your familiar extends out to a range of ten miles.
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'''Notes:''' Your DM may let you apply this feat to a paladin’s mount, special companion, infernal companion, psicrystal or similar pet.

{{Netbook of Feats Author|Carl Cramér|2002}}
{{Netbook of Feats Balance|4.70|4.60|4.30|4.60|5.00|5.00}}

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Ghost Touch (3.5e Feat)

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{{3.5e Feat
|name=Ghost Touch
|types=Special
|summary=By channeling your ki you can effectively strike incorporeal opponents.
|prereqs=[[Wis]] 13, Ki Strike class ability
|benefit=You can make unarmed attacks against [[incorporeal]] opponents as if you had the [[ghost touch]] power, negating an incorporeal creature's ability to ignore 50% of successful attacks from a corporeal source. Like Ki Strike, Ghost Touch is a supernatural ability.
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|special=
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{{Netbook of Feats Balance|4.65|5.00|4.50|4.75|4.75|4.25}}

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Familiar Development (3.5e Feat)

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{{3.5e Feat
|name=Familiar Development
|types=Special
|summary=You have put time and effort into developing your familiar.
|prereqs=A [[familiar]]
|benefit=Your [[familiar]]'s abilities are figured as if you were two levels higher.
|normal=
|special=This feat can be learned more than once and stacks with itself, each time raising your level by +2 when determining your familiar's special abilities."
}}

'''Notes:''' Your DM may let you apply this feat to a paladin's mount, special companion, infernal companion, psicrystal or similar pet.

{{Netbook of Feats Author|Sébastien Adhikari, Carl Cramér, Eric D. Harry|2001}}
{{Netbook of Feats Balance|4.70|4.60|4.60|5.00|4.30|5.00}}

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Familiar Concentration (3.5e Feat)

2010-09-03T15:08:26Z

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{{3.5e Feat
|name=Familiar Concentration
|types=Special
|summary=Your familiar can concentrate on spells for you.
|prereqs=A [[familiar]]
|benefit=When you cast a spell that normally requires your concentration, you can let your familiar do the concentrating for you if it is within 5 ft. of you at the time of casting. Your familiar must remain within 5 ft. of you while concentrating to maintain your spell; otherwise your familiar's concentration is automatically broken. To maintain a certain spell, the familiar must have an Intelligence score of 5 + the level of the spell or higher.
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|special=
}}

'''Notes:''' Your DM may let you apply this feat to a paladin's mount, special companion, infernal companion, psicrystal or similar pet.

{{Netbook of Feats Author|Carl Cramér|2001}}
{{Netbook of Feats Balance|4.85|5.00|4.25|5.00|5.00|5.00}}

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Extra Familiar (3.5e Feat)

2010-09-03T15:07:35Z

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{{3.5e Feat
|name=Extra Familiar
|types=Special
|summary=You can acquire more than one familiar
|prereqs=Already have a [[familiar]]
|benefit=Each time you take this feat, the number of familiars you are allowed increases by one.
|normal=
|special=This feat can be taken multiple times. Each time you take it, increase the number of familiars you are allowed by one. For every familiar lost, beyond the first, within the same year-and-a-day time frame, increase the [[Fort]] DC by 2 and double the XP loss.
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{{Netbook of Feats Author|Paul W. King|2001}}
{{Netbook of Feats Balance|4.05|4.00|4.00|4.00|4.25|4.00}}

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