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		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;Surgo: /* Factual Statements */&lt;/p&gt;
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== Protection for Tome Classes ==&lt;br /&gt;
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I wondered if you want to protect the tome-classes against IP edit. Maybe it would be better?--[[User:Lord Dhazriel|Lord Dhazriel]] 15:21, 27 January 2009 (MST)&lt;br /&gt;
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:I'd be very appreciative, and I'm sure Surgo would be, too. It'd cut back on the amount of edit undoing we'd have to do. What ''is'' it about lately? There's been a bunch of IPs changing random classes and races all over the Wiki... --[[User:Genowhirl|Genowhirl]] 10:15, 28 January 2009 (MST)&lt;br /&gt;
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== For Your Consideration ==&lt;br /&gt;
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I've noticed the ammount of people who have been giving the things made by Frank and K bad ratings before they understood the idea behind the class, and so, have made this template to try and help you guys out:&lt;br /&gt;
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{{Frank and K material}}&lt;br /&gt;
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Hope it helps (also, I officially hand over all rights to this template to you and Genowhirl, since I have no hand in any Frank and K material and don't really know what should or shouldn't go into this template). &amp;amp;rarr; [[User:Rithaniel|&amp;lt;span style=color:Gray; -moz-border-radius-topleft:25px; -moz-border-radius-bottomleft:20px&amp;quot;&amp;gt;Rith&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]]&amp;lt;sup&amp;gt; [[User talk:Rithaniel|&amp;lt;span style=color:black; -moz-border-radius-bottomleft:20px; -moz-border-radius-topleft:20px&amp;quot;&amp;gt;(talk)&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]]&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; 21:45, 14 March 2009 (MDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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:Lol, that is awesome. Thanks dude. [[User:Surgo|Surgo]] 22:00, 14 March 2009 (MDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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::Heh, it's no problem man, just glad I could help. ''':)''' &amp;amp;rarr; [[User:Rithaniel|&amp;lt;span style=color:Gray; -moz-border-radius-topleft:25px; -moz-border-radius-bottomleft:20px&amp;quot;&amp;gt;Rith&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]]&amp;lt;sup&amp;gt; [[User talk:Rithaniel|&amp;lt;span style=color:black; -moz-border-radius-bottomleft:20px; -moz-border-radius-topleft:20px&amp;quot;&amp;gt;(talk)&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]]&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; 01:59, 15 March 2009 (MDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Comment ==&lt;br /&gt;
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Thanks for taking the time to spotlight me in the Tavern. In light of many of the recent discussions going on around the site, I'd much appreciate a more friendly personal approach.  If you don't agree with something I state, that is fine, but please refrain from attacking mine, or anyone elses, intelligence.  Thank you in advance for your cooperation. &amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;lt;small&amp;gt;&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;border: 1px solid blue; -moz-border-radius:10px&amp;quot;&amp;gt;[[User:Hooper|'''&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;background-color:White; color:FireBrick; -moz-border-radius-topleft:10px; -moz-border-radius-bottomleft:10px&amp;quot;&amp;gt;  Hooper  &amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;''']][[User talk:Hooper|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;background-color:red; color:blue; -moz-border-radius-bottomleft:10px; -moz-border-radius-topleft:10px&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;amp;nbsp;talk&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]][[Special:Contributions/Hooper|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;background-color:red; color:blue&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;amp;nbsp;contribs&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]][[Special:Emailuser/Hooper|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;background-color:red; color:blue; -moz-border-radius-bottomright:10px; -moz-border-radius-topright:10px&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;amp;nbsp;email&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]]&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;&amp;lt;/small&amp;gt; 01:18, 15 March 2009 (MDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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:What? Where was I attacking your intelligence? I remember saying you were impervious to logic, for the reason of [[Talk:Incompetent (DnD Flaw)]], which is not the same thing as attacking your intelligence. [[User:Surgo|Surgo]] 01:27, 15 March 2009 (MDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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::Being impervious to logic means one is unaffected or unable to be affected by logic.  This brings up the question of &amp;quot;if one is rude in The Tavern should it count as the same as being rude while editing?&amp;quot;  If so it would almost be as if everyone who uses the tavern would get an instant permanent ban.  Huh.  Personally I say no - when Tavern Admins come around they should just use their own judgement.  And before that time keep it like it is - The Tavern has no effect on the wiki.  --[[User:Green Dragon|Green Dragon]] 09:32, 15 March 2009 (MDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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I don't know what people really wanted for Alchemical Potions so i just made this shinanigan for the peeps. you can make it the way you think it should be. --[[User:D.M.DemonicPanda|D.M.DemonicPanda]] 21:57, 3 April 2009&lt;br /&gt;
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''Comment moved to [[Talk:Alchemist (DnD Class)]]..''&lt;br /&gt;
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== Apology ==&lt;br /&gt;
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Hey, me again. I just wanted to apologize for calling you a power gamer, in case you didn't see the apology on the [[Talk:Incompetent (DnD Flaw)]] page. I can get quite stubborn sometimes. Sorry!--[[User:Fathirian Hound|Fathirian Hound]] 09:15, 20 March 2009 (MDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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:Don't worry about it, dude. [[User:Surgo|Surgo]] 22:26, 20 March 2009 (MDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Barnstar ==&lt;br /&gt;
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{{Barnstar|Thanks for nominating the [[DnD Flaws|flaws]] with purely roleplaying benefits for deletion, and nominating the unusable [[3.5e Quests|quests]] for deletion.  Thanks for helping out with a little spring cleaning.  --[[User:Green Dragon|Green Dragon]] 04:03, 22 March 2009 (MDT)}}&lt;br /&gt;
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== Adminship ==&lt;br /&gt;
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Welcome to Adminship.  You are now part of &amp;quot;The Face&amp;quot; of D&amp;amp;D Wiki.  Honestly, as you will notice, not much has been changed now that you are an admin.  If anything, I would say more burden is placed on you.  But first, for the the new features and their uses.  You can now delete pages, protect pages, rollback edits, block users and IP's, edit every page, patrol edits, and do a couple more minor things.&lt;br /&gt;
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;What it is:&lt;br /&gt;
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*What deleting pages is, is self explanatory.&lt;br /&gt;
*What protecting pages is, is also pretty self explanatory.&lt;br /&gt;
*Rolling back edits is a method for removing spam.  It is more powerful than the conventional method of undoing edits.  Instead of showing a diff of the edit in question once clicked, it instantly rollsback all the edits by the user or IP in question on a certain page.  For example if I edited my user page and you clicked &amp;quot;rollback&amp;quot; on that edit it would rollback all the edits up to the point where someone else has edited it.  Be careful using this, it can be very helpful but also very harmful.&lt;br /&gt;
*What blocking users and IP's is, is also self explanatory.&lt;br /&gt;
*Editing every page is another self explanatory one.&lt;br /&gt;
*Patrolling edits is a method for keeping [[Special:Recentchanges|RC]] in check, it can be seen once a diff is clicked.  All it does is, once &amp;quot;Mark as Patrolled Edits&amp;quot; is clicked, it marks the edits as patrolled so the edit will no longer show up on [[Special:Recentchanges|RC]] when &amp;quot;Hide Patrolled&amp;quot; is marked.&lt;br /&gt;
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;When or how it should be used&lt;br /&gt;
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*Deleting pages is done through [[:Category:Candidates for Deletion]].&lt;br /&gt;
*Protecting pages has quite a few different times when it should be used.  Pages should be protected according to the author's wishes (with [[Template:Locked Page]] added to the top of the page in question), in case of conflict  (with [[Template:Temp Locked Page]] added to the top of the page in question), in case of [[Help:FAQ#What are OGL, OGC, SRD, and GNU FPL?|OGC]] published materials (with [[Template:OGL Top]] added to the top of the page in question  and [[Template:OGL Bottom]] added to the bottom), or finally if the page is a vital part of D&amp;amp;D Wiki's infrastructure.  If it deals with D&amp;amp;D Wiki's infrastructure it either needs to be be protected from IP edits or all non-sysop edits.  As a rule of thumb pages up to two tiers deep from the [[Main Page]] are normally locked to anyone but sysops and all the others are just protected from IP edits.  For Example [[Dungeons and Dragons]] is protected from all non-sysop edits whereas a deeper in page like [[LA 0 Races]] is only protected from IP edits.  No template has to be added to pages if thay are part of D&amp;amp;D Wiki's organization (even though some do exist like [[Template:Admin Locked Page]])&lt;br /&gt;
*Blocking a user or IP should only be used after an IP or user vandalizes a certain page.  To block someone just click &amp;quot;block&amp;quot; (found either on [[Special:Recentchanges|RC]] or the diff in question) and fill out the corresponding form.  For a typical vandalism attack I normally block the user for two weeks.&lt;br /&gt;
*Editing every page on D&amp;amp;D Wiki mostly means you can now edit the [[SRD:System Reference Document|SRD]] and the [[MSRD:Modern System Reference Document|MSRD]].  Feel free to edit them if you find inaccuracies, and please feel free to help out with [[SRD Talk:System Reference Document#SRD ToDo List]] or [[MSRD Talk:Modern System Reference Document#Tasks]].&lt;br /&gt;
*Patrolling edits should be used when you have looked over an edit and fixed everything that needs to be fixed.   (this includes answering questions, sending MoI's, etc).&lt;br /&gt;
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You have more burden on yourself now that you are an admin because users will be looking at you for editing help, knowledge of D&amp;amp;D, editing guidelines, the standards, etc etc.  It's a bit more work, but I really hope you enjoy being an admin.  --[[User:Green Dragon|Green Dragon]] 13:12, 5 April 2009 (MDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Re: Thank You ==&lt;br /&gt;
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Why you're very welcome, I think I'll enjoy it when the job's done, yes...&lt;br /&gt;
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== AdminBadge ==&lt;br /&gt;
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I'd like to label you as an admin with the &amp;lt;s&amp;gt;&amp;lt;nowiki&amp;gt;[[Template:AdminBadge]]&amp;lt;/nowiki&amp;gt;&amp;lt;/s&amp;gt; on your user page. If you have a reason you don't think you should have the badge or you don't think the badge is a good idea, please discuss it on the badge's [[Template talk:AdminBadge|discussion]]. -[[User:Valentine the Rogue|Valentine the Rogue]] 16:08, 11 April 2009 (MDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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:I'm not going to put it on my page, because I don't want people to treat me differently because I'm an admin. [[User:Surgo|Surgo]] 17:10, 15 April 2009 (MDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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==Adminship==&lt;br /&gt;
Due to my recent illness and moving I've been on very sporadically and as such was not able to comment on your RfA.  However, if I had been able to I would of thrown down a support.  You've done some great things and I especially enjoy the future of your bots. &amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;lt;small&amp;gt;&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;border: 1px solid blue; -moz-border-radius:10px&amp;quot;&amp;gt;[[User:Hooper|'''&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;background-color:White; color:FireBrick; -moz-border-radius-topleft:10px; -moz-border-radius-bottomleft:10px&amp;quot;&amp;gt;  Hooper  &amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;''']][[User talk:Hooper|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;background-color:red; color:blue; -moz-border-radius-bottomleft:10px; -moz-border-radius-topleft:10px&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;amp;nbsp;talk&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]][[Special:Contributions/Hooper|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;background-color:red; color:blue&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;amp;nbsp;contribs&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]][[Special:Emailuser/Hooper|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;background-color:red; color:blue; -moz-border-radius-bottomright:10px; -moz-border-radius-topright:10px&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;amp;nbsp;email&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]]&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;&amp;lt;/small&amp;gt; 10:29, 12 April 2009 (MDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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:Thanks! [[User:Surgo|Surgo]] 17:10, 15 April 2009 (MDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Bot ==&lt;br /&gt;
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[[User:Dmilewski/Wikibot]]&lt;br /&gt;
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From a proper programmer's point of view, the script needs work. From a workhorse point of view, the thing it damned reliable. I usually change the purpose to PRINT to check my work, then run the script as WRITE to save the changes. --[[User:Dmilewski|Dmilewski]] 04:23, 23 April 2009 (MDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Deletion ==&lt;br /&gt;
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On May 12, you deleted two of my classes (Battle Mage and Ulfsark), with the reason for deletion being &amp;quot;Not enough information to be played.  However, both classes were as complete or more complete than any of the SRD classes.[[User:Zyxw59|Zyxw59]] 15:12, 6 July 2009 (MDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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:Don't take my word for it, here they are, temporarily restored: [[Ulfsark (DnD Class)]] and [[Battle Mage (DnD Class)]]. Carry on. --[[User:Ganteka|Ganteka]] 15:27, 6 July 2009 (MDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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::Battle Mage: the mechanics of the blast are never outlined. Ulfsark: There's not enough information to actually ''use'' homeland defense (I'm not sure when it should actually be applied -- something I can't say for any of the SRD classes, which I know exactly how they work). Both classes still have the problem that they're way too weak, though. [[User:Surgo|Surgo]] 22:08, 6 July 2009 (MDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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:::Thanks for the explanation, I will add a description to them.  {{Unsigned|Zyxw59|09:55, 9 July 2009 (MDT)}}&lt;br /&gt;
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::::'''It is still not workable'''. A ranged touch attack, by itself, doesn't tell you its range, among other things. What you NEED to do is go through the pages, pretend you know NOTHING about the classes and you didn't make them, and ''see if there are enough rules written there to '''actually use them'''''. Homeland defense is '''still''' retarded, because at any given point in time a member of my clan somewhere in the world might be attacked and ''how on earth does that work''? Seriously, these are nowhere near SRD level. [[User:Surgo|Surgo]] 14:09, 9 July 2009 (MDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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:::::We have standards on D&amp;amp;D Wiki.  These do not meet them in terms of being usable or not.  As such they got deleted.  If you can fix them in time the deletion is up they will not be deleted.  If not they will be deleted.  --[[User:Green Dragon|Green Dragon]] 17:51, 9 July 2009 (MDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Barnstar the Second ==&lt;br /&gt;
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{{Barnstar|Thanks for making a bot to update all of the breadcrumbs for spells. That saves a lot of manual adjustment (and potential errors caused by manual edits). --[[User:Aarnott|Aarnott]] 22:30, 3 August 2009 (MDT)}}&lt;br /&gt;
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== Gone ==&lt;br /&gt;
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I, along with most of my friends here, have left this wiki due to apparently unresolvable conflict with the administrator to make our own wiki. If you ever need to contact me for some reason, you can email (morgon Dot kanter At gmail Dot com). [[User:Surgo|Surgo]] 08:51, 19 August 2009 (MDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Wikia ==&lt;br /&gt;
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Please do not tell me you deleted wikia's D&amp;amp;D install!  Everyone liked that site as well!  If someone gave you root access to wikia and you deleted their D&amp;amp;D site the whole internet world is going to get '''very''' fucking annoyed with you.&lt;br /&gt;
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Please no.  [http://www.google.com/search?q=wikia+Dungeons+and+Dragons&amp;amp;ie=utf-8&amp;amp;oe=utf-8&amp;amp;aq=t&amp;amp;rls=com.ubuntu:en-US:unofficial&amp;amp;client=firefox-a search criteria].  --[[User:Green Dragon|Green Dragon]] 12:39, 25 August 2009 (MDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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:I cannot find any of the content that was on wikia's dungeons and dragons website anymore.  If you deleted peoples content without any form of permission on wikia because of wrongly given root access the entire internet world will hate you.  All I could find was an archived history of wikia's dungeons and dragons information - [http://www.wikiindex.org/Dungeons_and_Dragons_Wikia].  Other then that I think you may have just shredded wikia's dungeons and dragons section and could be the '''stupidest''' person I have '''ever''' seen or heard from.&lt;br /&gt;
:'''Wikia:''' http://dnd.wikia.com/wiki/Main_Page&lt;br /&gt;
:'''Possible Archive:'''  http://www.wikiindex.org/Dungeons_and_Dragons_Wikia&lt;br /&gt;
:'''Possible Restart:'''  http://dndta.wikia.com/wiki/Dungeons_%26_Dragons_Tiny_Adventures&lt;br /&gt;
:I don't think you understand that people ''worked'' on their content their, the rules were '''different''' their, etc.  --[[User:Green Dragon|Green Dragon]] 13:00, 25 August 2009 (MDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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::I hope you backed it up before you started working their.  I hope you did not shred it.  --[[User:Green Dragon|Green Dragon]] 13:07, 25 August 2009 (MDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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::: Ummm... GD, that's not even their &amp;quot;new&amp;quot; wiki. I don't think Surgo or anyone else from this site has anything to do with that. --[[User:Ghostwheel|Ghostwheel]] 13:09, 25 August 2009 (MDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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:::: I don't get it?  What happened to the DnD wikia?  --[[User:Jay Freedman|Jay Freedman]] 13:11, 25 August 2009 (MDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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:::::Ghost, I think what he means is that all of Wikia is psuedo-linked, and Surgo had needed some additional access/tools to get the new wiki to run the way he needed it to, and may have unknowingly deleted another wikia wiki's information.  Not that I know if that is or not, I just think that is what he means. &amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;lt;small&amp;gt;&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;border: 1px solid black; -moz-border-radius:10px&amp;quot;&amp;gt;[[User:Hooper|'''&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;background-color:White; color:Black; -moz-border-radius-topleft:10px; -moz-border-radius-bottomleft:10px&amp;quot;&amp;gt;  Hooper  &amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;''']][[User talk:Hooper|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;background-color:Black; color:white; -moz-border-radius-bottomleft:10px; -moz-border-radius-topleft:10px&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;amp;nbsp;talk&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]][[Special:Contributions/Hooper|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;background-color:black; color:white&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;amp;nbsp;contribs&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]][[Special:Emailuser/Hooper|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;background-color:black; color:white; -moz-border-radius-bottomright:10px; -moz-border-radius-topright:10px&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;amp;nbsp;email&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]]&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;&amp;lt;/small&amp;gt; 13:27, 25 August 2009 (MDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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{{quote|[[Meta Pages#Policies]]; swearing is a violation of our policies.|[[User:Green Dragon|Green Dragon]]|orig=[[User_talk:Green_Dragon/Archive_15#Harassment|Green Dragon Talk, Archive 15, Subsection &amp;quot;Harassment&amp;quot;]]}}&lt;br /&gt;
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{{quote|[[w:Wikipedia:Civility#Engaging in incivility]]. However you are right, you both deserve a warning.|[[User:Green Dragon|Green Dragon]]|orig=[[User_talk:Green_Dragon/Archive_15#Harassment|Green Dragon Talk, Archive 15, Subsection &amp;quot;Harassment&amp;quot;]]}}&lt;br /&gt;
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{{quote|What does &amp;quot;gross civility&amp;quot; even mean to you[Sic]? ...|[[User:Dragon Child|Dragon Child]]|orig=[[User_talk:Green_Dragon/Archive_15#Harassment|Green Dragon Talk, Archive 15, Subsection &amp;quot;Harassment&amp;quot;]]}}&lt;br /&gt;
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*Rudeness&lt;br /&gt;
*Insults and name-calling&lt;br /&gt;
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Should fall under those options.|[[User:Green Dragon|Green Dragon]]|orig=[[User_talk:Green_Dragon/Archive_15#Harassment|Green Dragon Talk, Archive 15, Subsection &amp;quot;Harassment&amp;quot;]]}}&lt;br /&gt;
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:::::: Acting as a People's Repesentitive of Law and Order (as laid down by bureaucrat [[User:Green Dragon|Green Dragon]]), I, hereby, warn you, [[User:Green Dragon|Green Dragon]], for your conduct in this section of [[User:Surgo|Surgo]]'s talk page. Let it be known that none think themselves above the rules of site, otherwise it descends into anarchy or worse; despotism! I am sure you will receive this warning with the grace and style you have so accustomed to yourself in your previous actions.&lt;br /&gt;
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:::::: Thank you for your co-operation. --[[User:TK-Squared|TK-Squared]] 13:31, 25 August 2009 (MDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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:::::::: (Sigh) This warning should go over real well... (Patiently awaiting the public executions to come.)  Haha. Jk.  What up TK!  We love you man.  --[[User:Jay Freedman|Jay Freedman]] 13:56, 25 August 2009 (MDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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:::::::::Their are stupid people in the world...  That's not name calling &amp;amp;mdash; it's brutal honesty.  And [[User:TK-Squared|TK-Squared]] you have zero authority here; do not act like you do.  Also I am pretty positive you deleted the old wikia's D&amp;amp;D wiki.  I have no idea what wikia was thinking to let you have root access to their servers.  I am calling them dumb people as well.  You ruined a wiki in about 10 minutes and you have no regret?  Everyone liked that site as well and all you people can do is bitch at me about it?  Don't just sit around bitching to me about yur petty problems - get back the damn website.  I have had people unrestore shift-deleted things before.  If you did not shred it there is still a chance you can get it back.  Do something!  Don't just mope and gripe to me about your petty authority problems; fix your mistakes.  --[[User:Green Dragon|Green Dragon]] 16:20, 25 August 2009 (MDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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:::::::::: lol wut --[[User:TK-Squared|TK-Squared]] 16:45, 25 August 2009 (MDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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::::::::::: Green Dragon, what are you even talking about? NOBODY here had anything to do with that wiki at all! [[User:Dragon Child|Dragon Child]] 16:46, 25 August 2009 (MDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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:'''What the hell'''? Listen Green Dragon, you fucking moron. While I'd normally be honored to be so vilified by the likes of you, this is just retarded. The last time anyone did anything on that other wiki was in 2007. If you think I somehow &amp;quot;deleted&amp;quot; their wiki (as if that's even possible on wikia), that makes you even dumber than I had originally given you credit for. (And yes, I did think about adopting that one in like with the wikia policy. I decided against it, and instead started my own wiki. Which in one day surpassed their article count by about five-fold.) I have no idea how you even got this stupid idea. [[User:Surgo|Surgo]] 16:58, 25 August 2009 (MDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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::I don't think we should concern ourselves with the two wikis.  Surgo's wiki states on it's main page that it is for Same Game Test material mostly, which will draw a certain demographic.  Ours will draw a different demographic (the material on our site dedicated to SGT and op material is a small percentage, and I'm sure theres will have a small percentage of more core stuff = not enough for either &amp;quot;side&amp;quot; to worry about the other).  If people on one side or the other don't feel like they can help both, then just leave it be.  Everyone is just going to make themselves more upset as they argue. &amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;lt;small&amp;gt;&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;border: 1px solid black; -moz-border-radius:10px&amp;quot;&amp;gt;[[User:Hooper|'''&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;background-color:White; color:Black; -moz-border-radius-topleft:10px; -moz-border-radius-bottomleft:10px&amp;quot;&amp;gt;  Hooper  &amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;''']][[User talk:Hooper|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;background-color:Black; color:white; -moz-border-radius-bottomleft:10px; -moz-border-radius-topleft:10px&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;amp;nbsp;talk&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]][[Special:Contributions/Hooper|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;background-color:black; color:white&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;amp;nbsp;contribs&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]][[Special:Emailuser/Hooper|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;background-color:black; color:white; -moz-border-radius-bottomright:10px; -moz-border-radius-topright:10px&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;amp;nbsp;email&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]]&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;&amp;lt;/small&amp;gt; 18:37, 25 August 2009 (MDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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::: Good advice Hooper.  Of course, a wise sage once said &amp;quot;He who mediates between lions lives short life.&amp;quot;  So while we would like not to worry about wiki wars... (Thats a cool name. Wiki Wars! I love that! Haha! I am so stupid.) ...this will probably continue for some time.  --[[User:Jay Freedman|Jay Freedman]] 18:47, 25 August 2009 (MDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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:::: Hooper, I'm not sure why you insist on misrepresenting me. My wiki does not say that it is mostly for Same Game Test material...at all. It says it's for all material, and anything that doesn't define a balance point is assumed to be Same Game test. I don't know how it can be any more clear than that (which is what it actually says on the front page). Hooper, the only reason I am even posting here is because Green Dragon made some boneheaded accusation he pulled out of his ass. This has nothing to do with &amp;quot;wiki wars&amp;quot; or whatever (unless this is Green Dragon's weird idea of a 'war' or something). [[User:Surgo|Surgo]] 19:04, 25 August 2009 (MDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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:::::Ah, well if something is &amp;quot;assumed to be SGT&amp;quot; instead of assuming it is &amp;quot;core&amp;quot; ''(for lack of a better word)'', I would say that it is just fostering the above kind of thoughts.  People who support the SGT mind frame will be more prone to follow it is all. As I said above, both wikis will have some of each. &amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;lt;small&amp;gt;&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;border: 1px solid black; -moz-border-radius:10px&amp;quot;&amp;gt;[[User:Hooper|'''&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;background-color:White; color:Black; -moz-border-radius-topleft:10px; -moz-border-radius-bottomleft:10px&amp;quot;&amp;gt;  Hooper  &amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;''']][[User talk:Hooper|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;background-color:Black; color:white; -moz-border-radius-bottomleft:10px; -moz-border-radius-topleft:10px&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;amp;nbsp;talk&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]][[Special:Contributions/Hooper|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;background-color:black; color:white&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;amp;nbsp;contribs&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]][[Special:Emailuser/Hooper|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;background-color:black; color:white; -moz-border-radius-bottomright:10px; -moz-border-radius-topright:10px&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;amp;nbsp;email&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]]&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;&amp;lt;/small&amp;gt; 19:09, 25 August 2009 (MDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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::::::The obvious point of contention is that you say SGT and core are not the same; others would argue otherwise. I don't want to turn this discussion into that, but you say po-tay-to, I say po-tah-to. -- [[User:Jota|Jota]] 20:04, 25 August 2009 (MDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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:::::::Does anyone know where all the content on [http://dnd.wikia.com/wiki/Basics_and_Ability_Scores] went?  With the thought in mind of [http://dungeons.wikia.com/wiki/Main_Page] (permissions).  --[[User:Green Dragon|Green Dragon]] 20:44, 25 August 2009 (MDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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::::::::http://dnd.wikia.com/wiki/Special:Contributions/Maunderingcabal  [http://dnd.wikia.com/wiki/Quickling_Runner] [http://dnd.wikia.com/wiki/Guard_Drake] [http://dnd.wikia.com/wiki/Hobgoblin_Warcaster] [http://dnd.wikia.com/wiki/Corruption_Corpse] [http://dnd.wikia.com/wiki/Warforged_Battle_Champion], etc.  --[[User:Green Dragon|Green Dragon]] 20:49, 25 August 2009 (MDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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:::::::::What the hell is your point? How should any of us know where any of their stuff went? I've only looked at that wiki once in my lifetime. [[User:Surgo|Surgo]] 20:51, 25 August 2009 (MDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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::::::::::I'm not Wikia.  I do not know enough in this instance to make a correct judgement.  I am not positive why the content was removed; I am not Wikia.  One would have to look at IP's and permissions on Wikia's backend to get a better judgment.  Who knows; I am not Wikia.  --[[User:Green Dragon|Green Dragon]] 20:59, 25 August 2009 (MDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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:::::::::::I think this is a good example of GD's attitude. As he yells at, makes threats against, and harasses someone who has done nothing wrong, and with no proof to back it up, and instead just throws out random links incoherently. [[User:Dragon Child|Dragon Child]] 20:58, 25 August 2009 (MDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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:::::::::: @GD.  Dude your freakin me out?  Nobody here took their stuff.  That site must just be having problems.  Surgo would probably just base his new wiki off this one anyway.  He wouldn't model his new site of that wikia in a million years.  He would mimic this site and try to improve it, adding &amp;quot;Surgo Flavor&amp;quot; or something.  Nobody I know messed with that empty wikia.  Sorry.  --[[User:Jay Freedman|Jay Freedman]] 21:00, 25 August 2009 (MDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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:::::::::::That's right. You are not Wikia. That means you should not be throwing around wild-ass and incorrect accusations at me. [[User:Surgo|Surgo]] 21:04, 25 August 2009 (MDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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::::::::::::Seriously GD, what the heck are you on about? Given that a lot of us weren't even aware of that site's existence, how do you expect those pages to mean anything to anyone? -- [[User:Jota|Jota]] 21:04, 25 August 2009 (MDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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:::::::::::::Those links you provided don't even have any content missing, as far as I can tell. No other content was added to them besides the picture of the miniature. You're yelling at someone who did nothing over a &amp;quot;crime&amp;quot; that everyone can see doesn't even exist. Perhaps now it's time to call you stupid, and say it's justified, as some people are just stupid? [[User:Dragon Child|Dragon Child]] 21:05, 25 August 2009 (MDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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::What do you mean you have nothing to do with it? You STARTED this discussion, by falsely accusing, nay, OUTRIGHT LYING AND INSULTING SURGO! [[User:Dragon Child|Dragon Child]] 21:39, 25 August 2009 (MDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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:::I asked a question.  --[[User:Green Dragon|Green Dragon]] 21:41, 25 August 2009 (MDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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::::That's pretty funny, because I don't see a question mark in your post. [[User:Surgo|Surgo]] 21:49, 2 September 2009 (MDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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:You guys need to take this discussion (about Wikia's wiki's) onto Wikia's pages. I have nothing to do with it. --[[User:Green Dragon|Green Dragon]] 21:24, 25 August 2009 (MDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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Recently in our discussions on the possibility of having templates on SGT material, you routinely stated that you believe things should state facts.  I agree.  Completely.  I believe your current user page misrepresents the amount of users who left, and should be altered to be more factually correct ''(i.e. &amp;quot;left with some&amp;quot; instead of the incorrect &amp;quot;most&amp;quot;)''. &amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;lt;small&amp;gt;&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;border: 1px solid black; -moz-border-radius:10px&amp;quot;&amp;gt;[[User:Hooper|'''&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;background-color:White; color:Black; -moz-border-radius-topleft:10px; -moz-border-radius-bottomleft:10px&amp;quot;&amp;gt;  Hooper  &amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;''']][[User talk:Hooper|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;background-color:Black; color:white; -moz-border-radius-bottomleft:10px; -moz-border-radius-topleft:10px&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;amp;nbsp;talk&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]][[Special:Contributions/Hooper|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;background-color:black; color:white&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;amp;nbsp;contribs&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]][[Special:Emailuser/Hooper|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;background-color:black; color:white; -moz-border-radius-bottomright:10px; -moz-border-radius-topright:10px&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;amp;nbsp;email&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]]&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;&amp;lt;/small&amp;gt; 14:59, 3 September 2009 (MDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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:Perhaps if you feel it is infactual, you should tell me actual percentages of users that have left so it can have the utmost accuracy. After all, looking at your current and former &amp;quot;active users&amp;quot; list, I believe that what I said is entirely factual. So I think you are wrong. [[User:Surgo|Surgo]] 17:24, 3 September 2009 (MDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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::Seriously Hooper? I thought you were a bit more mature than that. --[[User:208.90.100.111|208.90.100.111]] 18:00, 3 September 2009 (MDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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:::I'm being mature, and requesting a not-factually correct statement to be amended by an individual who has proven to value factual statements.  You want the statistics?  Fair enough.  Users who can arguably be said to be officially gone from this wiki to your wiki and who aren't still active on both are  (and please let me know if I miss anyone):  You, TK, Aarnot, Danial Draco, Eiji, Sam Kay, Sabre, Rith, Summerscythe, and Val.  Combined, their edit contributions equal 23,315 edits.  Even if we assume one page count equals one page, that  isn't even half of our pages on the wiki (and that is giving these edits ALOT more credit). Since the timeframe of the split, yours has about roughly 30 active users.  Since the only stat I can provide is the last 500 edits on this wiki, and if we do not count any of the people from your wiki (since their edits were probably related to the split) we have 21 active users - that is less than two days.  If I had a method to show stats - we can follow the same obvious trend and up this number amazingly so. We've also had 128 new users since August 10th - roughly the time of the split give a day or two, of which 56 have been active - and even trimming that to &amp;quot;more active than user page activity&amp;quot; still leaves 27.  Did you take some active users?  Yes.  Some valuable users? Yes.  Most?  No.  Half?   No.  Once again, I appreciated and agreed with your comments during the SGT template discussions for factual accuracy, and I hold you to those standards. &amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;lt;small&amp;gt;&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;border: 1px solid black; -moz-border-radius:10px&amp;quot;&amp;gt;[[User:Hooper|'''&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;background-color:White; color:Black; -moz-border-radius-topleft:10px; -moz-border-radius-bottomleft:10px&amp;quot;&amp;gt;  Hooper  &amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;''']][[User talk:Hooper|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;background-color:Black; color:white; -moz-border-radius-bottomleft:10px; -moz-border-radius-topleft:10px&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;amp;nbsp;talk&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]][[Special:Contributions/Hooper|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;background-color:black; color:white&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;amp;nbsp;contribs&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]][[Special:Emailuser/Hooper|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;background-color:black; color:white; -moz-border-radius-bottomright:10px; -moz-border-radius-topright:10px&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;amp;nbsp;email&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]]&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;&amp;lt;/small&amp;gt; 19:54, 3 September 2009 (MDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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::::Key word is active, not some one-and-done IP addresses. I don't necessarily agree with Surgo's assertion, but I really don't see why Surgo's user page is an issue given anyone can look at the recent activity and judge for themselves. -- [[User:Jota|Jota]] 19:58, 3 September 2009 (MDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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:::::I did miss one person I believe.   Lord Dhazriel.  Even with his edits you still only have 27,889.  Out of '''391,805'''.  True that there is no possibly way to get verifiable stats for say, the last 6 month percentage, but it still isn't close to half. If you want to say &amp;quot;most of the tavern regulars&amp;quot; then you may have some factual truth behind that. &lt;br /&gt;
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::::::You've missed about 10 people in that list. Once again, just compare the former &amp;quot;active users&amp;quot; list to the current one. And never mind the total ridiculous nature of edit count, which means absolutely nothing. And add to that what Jota just said below me...active users, not one-and-done signups. No, I'm thinking my user page is perfectly factual here. Sorry if you're somehow getting some proxy butthurt for Green Dragon over the split or something. [[User:Surgo|Surgo]] 20:03, 3 September 2009 (MDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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::::::: It not about edits, I mean if you count one-time IP and '''bots''' as active users then yes, only a small part of the active userbase left. But they do not, at least to my knowledge, only a few dozen of users actively contributed to this wiki at all time. These were (or are) active users, most IP or registered users only make 1 or 2 edits before leaving the wiki forever. --[[User:Lord Dhazriel|Dhazriel]] 20:04, 3 September 2009 (MDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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:::::::::Perhaps you should learn the meaning of your statistics before you post them. All of those edits could be made by people who have since left years ago. Then a few people remain, and are active with a few hundred edits a piece. Then 3/4ths of them leave. Guess what? The majority of active users ''still left'', even if the people responsible for the majority of edits ''have not technically left with them''. If you're going to throw statistics around, you should at least demonstrate some basic understanding of them. [[User:Surgo|Surgo]] 20:12, 3 September 2009 (MDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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::::::::::Actually, I do understand them, and I provided the only verifiable stats I could - the last 500 counts for just a couple days - which nearly equal your site's number of active users since its inception.  I 'm not going to throw out a number that I can't verify - but using that formula and expanding it to the same time since your site started - we could easilly verify the last month's active users being more.  You must have overlooked that above. &amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;lt;small&amp;gt;&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;border: 1px solid black; -moz-border-radius:10px&amp;quot;&amp;gt;[[User:Hooper|'''&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;background-color:White; color:Black; -moz-border-radius-topleft:10px; -moz-border-radius-bottomleft:10px&amp;quot;&amp;gt;  Hooper  &amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;''']][[User talk:Hooper|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;background-color:Black; color:white; -moz-border-radius-bottomleft:10px; -moz-border-radius-topleft:10px&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;amp;nbsp;talk&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]][[Special:Contributions/Hooper|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;background-color:black; color:white&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;amp;nbsp;contribs&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]][[Special:Emailuser/Hooper|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;background-color:black; color:white; -moz-border-radius-bottomright:10px; -moz-border-radius-topright:10px&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;amp;nbsp;email&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]]&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;&amp;lt;/small&amp;gt; 20:15, 3 September 2009 (MDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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:::::::::::I overlooked nothing, but I thought it was so obvious that it didn't even need saying: how many of those edits are the nonsensical noise between you and Ghostwheel? And how many edits on my site are more than noise? See, reasons like this are why trying to compare penis size, err, edit count, is complete nonsense. [[User:Surgo|Surgo]] 20:20, 3 September 2009 (MDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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::::::::::: Hooper, just... just stop it, eh? As long as it's not offensive, Surgo can (I think?) have just about anything he wants on his user page. He could state the sky was purple. It's not factually true, but he can say whatever he wants. People who want to see for themselves will do a little research. People who don't care won't. But in the end, right now it just looks like you're being stubborn and obstinate for no real reason. --[[User:Ghostwheel|Ghostwheel]] 20:19, 3 September 2009 (MDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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:I was just holding Surgo to the high standard of being  factually correct that he asked of me not long ago, and I am being denied that requests.  That is all.   I'm not demanding it be changed, just asking it be corrected.   He has chosen not to, and  I'll leave it at that. &amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;lt;small&amp;gt;&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;border: 1px solid black; -moz-border-radius:10px&amp;quot;&amp;gt;[[User:Hooper|'''&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;background-color:White; color:Black; -moz-border-radius-topleft:10px; -moz-border-radius-bottomleft:10px&amp;quot;&amp;gt;  Hooper  &amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;''']][[User talk:Hooper|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;background-color:Black; color:white; -moz-border-radius-bottomleft:10px; -moz-border-radius-topleft:10px&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;amp;nbsp;talk&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]][[Special:Contributions/Hooper|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;background-color:black; color:white&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;amp;nbsp;contribs&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]][[Special:Emailuser/Hooper|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;background-color:black; color:white; -moz-border-radius-bottomright:10px; -moz-border-radius-topright:10px&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;amp;nbsp;email&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]]&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;&amp;lt;/small&amp;gt; 20:21, 3 September 2009 (MDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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::If your standard is statistics that don't mean anything, sure. Unfortunately, I'm still being factually correct and you're throwing some half-baked ideas at me that don't say what you're claiming they say. [[User:Surgo|Surgo]] 20:23, 3 September 2009 (MDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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:::No, you are trying to say I'm claiming they say something they don't.  All I did was provide you the only stats even close to relevant to the discussion that are available, and the overwhelming landslide that all those stats show demand a rational mind to acknowledge that they show the proper trend. However, there is no point in pursuing the subject. &amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;lt;small&amp;gt;&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;border: 1px solid black; -moz-border-radius:10px&amp;quot;&amp;gt;[[User:Hooper|'''&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;background-color:White; color:Black; -moz-border-radius-topleft:10px; -moz-border-radius-bottomleft:10px&amp;quot;&amp;gt;  Hooper  &amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;''']][[User talk:Hooper|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;background-color:Black; color:white; -moz-border-radius-bottomleft:10px; -moz-border-radius-topleft:10px&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;amp;nbsp;talk&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]][[Special:Contributions/Hooper|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;background-color:black; color:white&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;amp;nbsp;contribs&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]][[Special:Emailuser/Hooper|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;background-color:black; color:white; -moz-border-radius-bottomright:10px; -moz-border-radius-topright:10px&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;amp;nbsp;email&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]]&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;&amp;lt;/small&amp;gt; 20:26, 3 September 2009 (MDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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::::Did you just miss that whole part where I debunked these statistics above? Okay, whatever you say man. [[User:Surgo|Surgo]] 20:28, 3 September 2009 (MDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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::::::'''Statistics need to mean something in order to lend any weight!''' I'm not sure how many times I'm going to have to make this point. But I'm sure you're just going to ignore it and somehow claim these 20 or so edits on this page and all the deletions I recently performed are somehow indicative that I count as an active user of this wiki, or something. [[User:Surgo|Surgo]] 20:32, 3 September 2009 (MDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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:::::::Seriously Hooper, your statistics indicate absolutely nothing, and I'm not sure that there is a way to get statistics that will accurately indicate who is correct. The fact that you have provided any numbers does not place you in the position to ask or demand anything or Surgo when your numbers don't mean anything. -- [[User:Jota|Jota]] 20:34, 3 September 2009 (MDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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::::::::I've already agreed that there is no way to '''accurately''' show it, but these stats (especially the last 500 here vs. all there) show a trend.  By the way Jota, I'd like to take your quote here: ''The fact that you have provided any numbers does not place you in the position to ask or demand anything or Surgo when your numbers don't mean anything.&amp;quot;'' and apply that to you and Ghost on the build page.  Surgo, you can't provide any stats, and I can provide stats that show an overwhelming trend.  That is all.  Unless you're willing to attempt to or acknowledge that, which you won't, we can end this. &amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;lt;small&amp;gt;&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;border: 1px solid black; -moz-border-radius:10px&amp;quot;&amp;gt;[[User:Hooper|'''&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;background-color:White; color:Black; -moz-border-radius-topleft:10px; -moz-border-radius-bottomleft:10px&amp;quot;&amp;gt;  Hooper  &amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;''']][[User talk:Hooper|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;background-color:Black; color:white; -moz-border-radius-bottomleft:10px; -moz-border-radius-topleft:10px&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;amp;nbsp;talk&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]][[Special:Contributions/Hooper|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;background-color:black; color:white&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;amp;nbsp;contribs&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]][[Special:Emailuser/Hooper|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;background-color:black; color:white; -moz-border-radius-bottomright:10px; -moz-border-radius-topright:10px&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;amp;nbsp;email&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]]&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;&amp;lt;/small&amp;gt; 20:35, 3 September 2009 (MDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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:::::::::In the year of 2008, 55,170 1994 Honda Accords were stolen in the United States. There we go -- a statistic that is exactly as relevent as what you have been posting here. [[User:Surgo|Surgo]] 20:38, 3 September 2009 (MDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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:No, Hooper, your numbers mean less than nothing, and I gave numbers in the other thread, relevant numbers. You're doing the same thing here you did there: refusing to acknowledge information that proves contrary to your personal opinion because its suits you. -- [[User:Jota|Jota]] 20:40, 3 September 2009 (MDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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::@Hooper.  Wait a minute.  Your telling Surgo to change a few stupid words on his user page?  Are you a flippin' freakin' blanky' blank.  (I don't like cursing)  I want to ban you sooooo bad for picking this fight bro.  I love ya man.  But I ain't cool with this.  I ain't cool with this.  --[[User:Jay Freedman|Jay Freedman]] 20:40, 3 September 2009 (MDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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:::No, Jay.  It is his user page and if he wants to leave it like it is, that is fine.  I just know from past experience he likes people to be factually correct and was hoping that he would be the same way.  If not, then that is fine, I brought up the point and thats done.  &amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;lt;small&amp;gt;&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;border: 1px solid black; -moz-border-radius:10px&amp;quot;&amp;gt;[[User:Hooper|'''&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;background-color:White; color:Black; -moz-border-radius-topleft:10px; -moz-border-radius-bottomleft:10px&amp;quot;&amp;gt;  Hooper  &amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;''']][[User talk:Hooper|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;background-color:Black; color:white; -moz-border-radius-bottomleft:10px; -moz-border-radius-topleft:10px&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;amp;nbsp;talk&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]][[Special:Contributions/Hooper|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;background-color:black; color:white&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;amp;nbsp;contribs&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]][[Special:Emailuser/Hooper|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;background-color:black; color:white; -moz-border-radius-bottomright:10px; -moz-border-radius-topright:10px&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;amp;nbsp;email&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]]&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;&amp;lt;/small&amp;gt; 20:42, 3 September 2009 (MDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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::::And I am factually correct, of course. [[User:Surgo|Surgo]] 20:46, 3 September 2009 (MDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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:::::The easiest way to shut me up would be to prove that statement.  &amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;lt;small&amp;gt;&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;border: 1px solid black; -moz-border-radius:10px&amp;quot;&amp;gt;[[User:Hooper|'''&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;background-color:White; color:Black; -moz-border-radius-topleft:10px; -moz-border-radius-bottomleft:10px&amp;quot;&amp;gt;  Hooper  &amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;''']][[User talk:Hooper|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;background-color:Black; color:white; -moz-border-radius-bottomleft:10px; -moz-border-radius-topleft:10px&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;amp;nbsp;talk&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]][[Special:Contributions/Hooper|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;background-color:black; color:white&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;amp;nbsp;contribs&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]][[Special:Emailuser/Hooper|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;background-color:black; color:white; -moz-border-radius-bottomright:10px; -moz-border-radius-topright:10px&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;amp;nbsp;email&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]]&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;&amp;lt;/small&amp;gt; 20:49, 3 September 2009 (MDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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::::::I already gave the evidence for it...multiple times. Compare the number of active users before with the number of active users now. [[User:Surgo|Surgo]] 20:50, 3 September 2009 (MDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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:::::::My user navigation page is not even close to accurate, so your statement above would be using even more irrelevant stats than mine.   Using the only verifiable means - the user creation log since august 10th and all users over there, that gives you about 30 users who have atleast one edit and us the 56 ''(active - over 100 but the rest haven't done anything)'', of which 27 have done more than one edit or user page only edits.  Now, add in users who have been active since the month or two before that in our creation log - well, you have your stats.  And that is only counting the new users, not the oldies who are still here.  Look it up.  I'm done here. &amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;lt;small&amp;gt;&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;border: 1px solid black; -moz-border-radius:10px&amp;quot;&amp;gt;[[User:Hooper|'''&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;background-color:White; color:Black; -moz-border-radius-topleft:10px; -moz-border-radius-bottomleft:10px&amp;quot;&amp;gt;  Hooper  &amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;''']][[User talk:Hooper|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;background-color:Black; color:white; -moz-border-radius-bottomleft:10px; -moz-border-radius-topleft:10px&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;amp;nbsp;talk&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]][[Special:Contributions/Hooper|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;background-color:black; color:white&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;amp;nbsp;contribs&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]][[Special:Emailuser/Hooper|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;background-color:black; color:white; -moz-border-radius-bottomright:10px; -moz-border-radius-topright:10px&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;amp;nbsp;email&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]]&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;&amp;lt;/small&amp;gt; 20:54, 3 September 2009 (MDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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::::::::This is like the fifth time you've said &amp;quot;I'm done here&amp;quot; and continued to post. Shut up and leave already. And next time you want to come around, bring some stats that matter. Like number of articles per user. Or number of finished articles per user. [[User:Surgo|Surgo]] 20:57, 3 September 2009 (MDT)&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
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== Protection for Tome Classes ==&lt;br /&gt;
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I wondered if you want to protect the tome-classes against IP edit. Maybe it would be better?--[[User:Lord Dhazriel|Lord Dhazriel]] 15:21, 27 January 2009 (MST)&lt;br /&gt;
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:I'd be very appreciative, and I'm sure Surgo would be, too. It'd cut back on the amount of edit undoing we'd have to do. What ''is'' it about lately? There's been a bunch of IPs changing random classes and races all over the Wiki... --[[User:Genowhirl|Genowhirl]] 10:15, 28 January 2009 (MST)&lt;br /&gt;
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== For Your Consideration ==&lt;br /&gt;
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I've noticed the ammount of people who have been giving the things made by Frank and K bad ratings before they understood the idea behind the class, and so, have made this template to try and help you guys out:&lt;br /&gt;
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{{Frank and K material}}&lt;br /&gt;
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Hope it helps (also, I officially hand over all rights to this template to you and Genowhirl, since I have no hand in any Frank and K material and don't really know what should or shouldn't go into this template). &amp;amp;rarr; [[User:Rithaniel|&amp;lt;span style=color:Gray; -moz-border-radius-topleft:25px; -moz-border-radius-bottomleft:20px&amp;quot;&amp;gt;Rith&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]]&amp;lt;sup&amp;gt; [[User talk:Rithaniel|&amp;lt;span style=color:black; -moz-border-radius-bottomleft:20px; -moz-border-radius-topleft:20px&amp;quot;&amp;gt;(talk)&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]]&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; 21:45, 14 March 2009 (MDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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:Lol, that is awesome. Thanks dude. [[User:Surgo|Surgo]] 22:00, 14 March 2009 (MDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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::Heh, it's no problem man, just glad I could help. ''':)''' &amp;amp;rarr; [[User:Rithaniel|&amp;lt;span style=color:Gray; -moz-border-radius-topleft:25px; -moz-border-radius-bottomleft:20px&amp;quot;&amp;gt;Rith&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]]&amp;lt;sup&amp;gt; [[User talk:Rithaniel|&amp;lt;span style=color:black; -moz-border-radius-bottomleft:20px; -moz-border-radius-topleft:20px&amp;quot;&amp;gt;(talk)&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]]&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; 01:59, 15 March 2009 (MDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Comment ==&lt;br /&gt;
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Thanks for taking the time to spotlight me in the Tavern. In light of many of the recent discussions going on around the site, I'd much appreciate a more friendly personal approach.  If you don't agree with something I state, that is fine, but please refrain from attacking mine, or anyone elses, intelligence.  Thank you in advance for your cooperation. &amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;lt;small&amp;gt;&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;border: 1px solid blue; -moz-border-radius:10px&amp;quot;&amp;gt;[[User:Hooper|'''&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;background-color:White; color:FireBrick; -moz-border-radius-topleft:10px; -moz-border-radius-bottomleft:10px&amp;quot;&amp;gt;  Hooper  &amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;''']][[User talk:Hooper|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;background-color:red; color:blue; -moz-border-radius-bottomleft:10px; -moz-border-radius-topleft:10px&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;amp;nbsp;talk&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]][[Special:Contributions/Hooper|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;background-color:red; color:blue&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;amp;nbsp;contribs&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]][[Special:Emailuser/Hooper|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;background-color:red; color:blue; -moz-border-radius-bottomright:10px; -moz-border-radius-topright:10px&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;amp;nbsp;email&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]]&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;&amp;lt;/small&amp;gt; 01:18, 15 March 2009 (MDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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:What? Where was I attacking your intelligence? I remember saying you were impervious to logic, for the reason of [[Talk:Incompetent (DnD Flaw)]], which is not the same thing as attacking your intelligence. [[User:Surgo|Surgo]] 01:27, 15 March 2009 (MDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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::Being impervious to logic means one is unaffected or unable to be affected by logic.  This brings up the question of &amp;quot;if one is rude in The Tavern should it count as the same as being rude while editing?&amp;quot;  If so it would almost be as if everyone who uses the tavern would get an instant permanent ban.  Huh.  Personally I say no - when Tavern Admins come around they should just use their own judgement.  And before that time keep it like it is - The Tavern has no effect on the wiki.  --[[User:Green Dragon|Green Dragon]] 09:32, 15 March 2009 (MDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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I don't know what people really wanted for Alchemical Potions so i just made this shinanigan for the peeps. you can make it the way you think it should be. --[[User:D.M.DemonicPanda|D.M.DemonicPanda]] 21:57, 3 April 2009&lt;br /&gt;
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== Apology ==&lt;br /&gt;
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Hey, me again. I just wanted to apologize for calling you a power gamer, in case you didn't see the apology on the [[Talk:Incompetent (DnD Flaw)]] page. I can get quite stubborn sometimes. Sorry!--[[User:Fathirian Hound|Fathirian Hound]] 09:15, 20 March 2009 (MDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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:Don't worry about it, dude. [[User:Surgo|Surgo]] 22:26, 20 March 2009 (MDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Barnstar ==&lt;br /&gt;
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{{Barnstar|Thanks for nominating the [[DnD Flaws|flaws]] with purely roleplaying benefits for deletion, and nominating the unusable [[3.5e Quests|quests]] for deletion.  Thanks for helping out with a little spring cleaning.  --[[User:Green Dragon|Green Dragon]] 04:03, 22 March 2009 (MDT)}}&lt;br /&gt;
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== Adminship ==&lt;br /&gt;
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Welcome to Adminship.  You are now part of &amp;quot;The Face&amp;quot; of D&amp;amp;D Wiki.  Honestly, as you will notice, not much has been changed now that you are an admin.  If anything, I would say more burden is placed on you.  But first, for the the new features and their uses.  You can now delete pages, protect pages, rollback edits, block users and IP's, edit every page, patrol edits, and do a couple more minor things.&lt;br /&gt;
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;What it is:&lt;br /&gt;
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*What deleting pages is, is self explanatory.&lt;br /&gt;
*What protecting pages is, is also pretty self explanatory.&lt;br /&gt;
*Rolling back edits is a method for removing spam.  It is more powerful than the conventional method of undoing edits.  Instead of showing a diff of the edit in question once clicked, it instantly rollsback all the edits by the user or IP in question on a certain page.  For example if I edited my user page and you clicked &amp;quot;rollback&amp;quot; on that edit it would rollback all the edits up to the point where someone else has edited it.  Be careful using this, it can be very helpful but also very harmful.&lt;br /&gt;
*What blocking users and IP's is, is also self explanatory.&lt;br /&gt;
*Editing every page is another self explanatory one.&lt;br /&gt;
*Patrolling edits is a method for keeping [[Special:Recentchanges|RC]] in check, it can be seen once a diff is clicked.  All it does is, once &amp;quot;Mark as Patrolled Edits&amp;quot; is clicked, it marks the edits as patrolled so the edit will no longer show up on [[Special:Recentchanges|RC]] when &amp;quot;Hide Patrolled&amp;quot; is marked.&lt;br /&gt;
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;When or how it should be used&lt;br /&gt;
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*Deleting pages is done through [[:Category:Candidates for Deletion]].&lt;br /&gt;
*Protecting pages has quite a few different times when it should be used.  Pages should be protected according to the author's wishes (with [[Template:Locked Page]] added to the top of the page in question), in case of conflict  (with [[Template:Temp Locked Page]] added to the top of the page in question), in case of [[Help:FAQ#What are OGL, OGC, SRD, and GNU FPL?|OGC]] published materials (with [[Template:OGL Top]] added to the top of the page in question  and [[Template:OGL Bottom]] added to the bottom), or finally if the page is a vital part of D&amp;amp;D Wiki's infrastructure.  If it deals with D&amp;amp;D Wiki's infrastructure it either needs to be be protected from IP edits or all non-sysop edits.  As a rule of thumb pages up to two tiers deep from the [[Main Page]] are normally locked to anyone but sysops and all the others are just protected from IP edits.  For Example [[Dungeons and Dragons]] is protected from all non-sysop edits whereas a deeper in page like [[LA 0 Races]] is only protected from IP edits.  No template has to be added to pages if thay are part of D&amp;amp;D Wiki's organization (even though some do exist like [[Template:Admin Locked Page]])&lt;br /&gt;
*Blocking a user or IP should only be used after an IP or user vandalizes a certain page.  To block someone just click &amp;quot;block&amp;quot; (found either on [[Special:Recentchanges|RC]] or the diff in question) and fill out the corresponding form.  For a typical vandalism attack I normally block the user for two weeks.&lt;br /&gt;
*Editing every page on D&amp;amp;D Wiki mostly means you can now edit the [[SRD:System Reference Document|SRD]] and the [[MSRD:Modern System Reference Document|MSRD]].  Feel free to edit them if you find inaccuracies, and please feel free to help out with [[SRD Talk:System Reference Document#SRD ToDo List]] or [[MSRD Talk:Modern System Reference Document#Tasks]].&lt;br /&gt;
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You have more burden on yourself now that you are an admin because users will be looking at you for editing help, knowledge of D&amp;amp;D, editing guidelines, the standards, etc etc.  It's a bit more work, but I really hope you enjoy being an admin.  --[[User:Green Dragon|Green Dragon]] 13:12, 5 April 2009 (MDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Re: Thank You ==&lt;br /&gt;
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Why you're very welcome, I think I'll enjoy it when the job's done, yes...&lt;br /&gt;
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== AdminBadge ==&lt;br /&gt;
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I'd like to label you as an admin with the &amp;lt;s&amp;gt;&amp;lt;nowiki&amp;gt;[[Template:AdminBadge]]&amp;lt;/nowiki&amp;gt;&amp;lt;/s&amp;gt; on your user page. If you have a reason you don't think you should have the badge or you don't think the badge is a good idea, please discuss it on the badge's [[Template talk:AdminBadge|discussion]]. -[[User:Valentine the Rogue|Valentine the Rogue]] 16:08, 11 April 2009 (MDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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:I'm not going to put it on my page, because I don't want people to treat me differently because I'm an admin. [[User:Surgo|Surgo]] 17:10, 15 April 2009 (MDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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Due to my recent illness and moving I've been on very sporadically and as such was not able to comment on your RfA.  However, if I had been able to I would of thrown down a support.  You've done some great things and I especially enjoy the future of your bots. &amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;lt;small&amp;gt;&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;border: 1px solid blue; -moz-border-radius:10px&amp;quot;&amp;gt;[[User:Hooper|'''&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;background-color:White; color:FireBrick; -moz-border-radius-topleft:10px; -moz-border-radius-bottomleft:10px&amp;quot;&amp;gt;  Hooper  &amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;''']][[User talk:Hooper|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;background-color:red; color:blue; -moz-border-radius-bottomleft:10px; -moz-border-radius-topleft:10px&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;amp;nbsp;talk&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]][[Special:Contributions/Hooper|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;background-color:red; color:blue&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;amp;nbsp;contribs&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]][[Special:Emailuser/Hooper|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;background-color:red; color:blue; -moz-border-radius-bottomright:10px; -moz-border-radius-topright:10px&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;amp;nbsp;email&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]]&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;&amp;lt;/small&amp;gt; 10:29, 12 April 2009 (MDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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:Thanks! [[User:Surgo|Surgo]] 17:10, 15 April 2009 (MDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Bot ==&lt;br /&gt;
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From a proper programmer's point of view, the script needs work. From a workhorse point of view, the thing it damned reliable. I usually change the purpose to PRINT to check my work, then run the script as WRITE to save the changes. --[[User:Dmilewski|Dmilewski]] 04:23, 23 April 2009 (MDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Deletion ==&lt;br /&gt;
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On May 12, you deleted two of my classes (Battle Mage and Ulfsark), with the reason for deletion being &amp;quot;Not enough information to be played.  However, both classes were as complete or more complete than any of the SRD classes.[[User:Zyxw59|Zyxw59]] 15:12, 6 July 2009 (MDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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:Don't take my word for it, here they are, temporarily restored: [[Ulfsark (DnD Class)]] and [[Battle Mage (DnD Class)]]. Carry on. --[[User:Ganteka|Ganteka]] 15:27, 6 July 2009 (MDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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::Battle Mage: the mechanics of the blast are never outlined. Ulfsark: There's not enough information to actually ''use'' homeland defense (I'm not sure when it should actually be applied -- something I can't say for any of the SRD classes, which I know exactly how they work). Both classes still have the problem that they're way too weak, though. [[User:Surgo|Surgo]] 22:08, 6 July 2009 (MDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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:::Thanks for the explanation, I will add a description to them.  {{Unsigned|Zyxw59|09:55, 9 July 2009 (MDT)}}&lt;br /&gt;
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::::'''It is still not workable'''. A ranged touch attack, by itself, doesn't tell you its range, among other things. What you NEED to do is go through the pages, pretend you know NOTHING about the classes and you didn't make them, and ''see if there are enough rules written there to '''actually use them'''''. Homeland defense is '''still''' retarded, because at any given point in time a member of my clan somewhere in the world might be attacked and ''how on earth does that work''? Seriously, these are nowhere near SRD level. [[User:Surgo|Surgo]] 14:09, 9 July 2009 (MDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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:::::We have standards on D&amp;amp;D Wiki.  These do not meet them in terms of being usable or not.  As such they got deleted.  If you can fix them in time the deletion is up they will not be deleted.  If not they will be deleted.  --[[User:Green Dragon|Green Dragon]] 17:51, 9 July 2009 (MDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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{{Barnstar|Thanks for making a bot to update all of the breadcrumbs for spells. That saves a lot of manual adjustment (and potential errors caused by manual edits). --[[User:Aarnott|Aarnott]] 22:30, 3 August 2009 (MDT)}}&lt;br /&gt;
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== Gone ==&lt;br /&gt;
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I, along with most of my friends here, have left this wiki due to apparently unresolvable conflict with the administrator to make our own wiki. If you ever need to contact me for some reason, you can email (morgon Dot kanter At gmail Dot com). [[User:Surgo|Surgo]] 08:51, 19 August 2009 (MDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Wikia ==&lt;br /&gt;
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Please do not tell me you deleted wikia's D&amp;amp;D install!  Everyone liked that site as well!  If someone gave you root access to wikia and you deleted their D&amp;amp;D site the whole internet world is going to get '''very''' fucking annoyed with you.&lt;br /&gt;
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Please no.  [http://www.google.com/search?q=wikia+Dungeons+and+Dragons&amp;amp;ie=utf-8&amp;amp;oe=utf-8&amp;amp;aq=t&amp;amp;rls=com.ubuntu:en-US:unofficial&amp;amp;client=firefox-a search criteria].  --[[User:Green Dragon|Green Dragon]] 12:39, 25 August 2009 (MDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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:I cannot find any of the content that was on wikia's dungeons and dragons website anymore.  If you deleted peoples content without any form of permission on wikia because of wrongly given root access the entire internet world will hate you.  All I could find was an archived history of wikia's dungeons and dragons information - [http://www.wikiindex.org/Dungeons_and_Dragons_Wikia].  Other then that I think you may have just shredded wikia's dungeons and dragons section and could be the '''stupidest''' person I have '''ever''' seen or heard from.&lt;br /&gt;
:'''Wikia:''' http://dnd.wikia.com/wiki/Main_Page&lt;br /&gt;
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:I don't think you understand that people ''worked'' on their content their, the rules were '''different''' their, etc.  --[[User:Green Dragon|Green Dragon]] 13:00, 25 August 2009 (MDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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::I hope you backed it up before you started working their.  I hope you did not shred it.  --[[User:Green Dragon|Green Dragon]] 13:07, 25 August 2009 (MDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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::: Ummm... GD, that's not even their &amp;quot;new&amp;quot; wiki. I don't think Surgo or anyone else from this site has anything to do with that. --[[User:Ghostwheel|Ghostwheel]] 13:09, 25 August 2009 (MDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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:::: I don't get it?  What happened to the DnD wikia?  --[[User:Jay Freedman|Jay Freedman]] 13:11, 25 August 2009 (MDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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:::::Ghost, I think what he means is that all of Wikia is psuedo-linked, and Surgo had needed some additional access/tools to get the new wiki to run the way he needed it to, and may have unknowingly deleted another wikia wiki's information.  Not that I know if that is or not, I just think that is what he means. &amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;lt;small&amp;gt;&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;border: 1px solid black; -moz-border-radius:10px&amp;quot;&amp;gt;[[User:Hooper|'''&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;background-color:White; color:Black; -moz-border-radius-topleft:10px; -moz-border-radius-bottomleft:10px&amp;quot;&amp;gt;  Hooper  &amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;''']][[User talk:Hooper|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;background-color:Black; color:white; -moz-border-radius-bottomleft:10px; -moz-border-radius-topleft:10px&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;amp;nbsp;talk&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]][[Special:Contributions/Hooper|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;background-color:black; color:white&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;amp;nbsp;contribs&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]][[Special:Emailuser/Hooper|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;background-color:black; color:white; -moz-border-radius-bottomright:10px; -moz-border-radius-topright:10px&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;amp;nbsp;email&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]]&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;&amp;lt;/small&amp;gt; 13:27, 25 August 2009 (MDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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{{quote|[[Meta Pages#Policies]]; swearing is a violation of our policies.|[[User:Green Dragon|Green Dragon]]|orig=[[User_talk:Green_Dragon/Archive_15#Harassment|Green Dragon Talk, Archive 15, Subsection &amp;quot;Harassment&amp;quot;]]}}&lt;br /&gt;
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{{quote|[[w:Wikipedia:Civility#Engaging in incivility]]. However you are right, you both deserve a warning.|[[User:Green Dragon|Green Dragon]]|orig=[[User_talk:Green_Dragon/Archive_15#Harassment|Green Dragon Talk, Archive 15, Subsection &amp;quot;Harassment&amp;quot;]]}}&lt;br /&gt;
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{{quote|What does &amp;quot;gross civility&amp;quot; even mean to you[Sic]? ...|[[User:Dragon Child|Dragon Child]]|orig=[[User_talk:Green_Dragon/Archive_15#Harassment|Green Dragon Talk, Archive 15, Subsection &amp;quot;Harassment&amp;quot;]]}}&lt;br /&gt;
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Should fall under those options.|[[User:Green Dragon|Green Dragon]]|orig=[[User_talk:Green_Dragon/Archive_15#Harassment|Green Dragon Talk, Archive 15, Subsection &amp;quot;Harassment&amp;quot;]]}}&lt;br /&gt;
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:::::: Acting as a People's Repesentitive of Law and Order (as laid down by bureaucrat [[User:Green Dragon|Green Dragon]]), I, hereby, warn you, [[User:Green Dragon|Green Dragon]], for your conduct in this section of [[User:Surgo|Surgo]]'s talk page. Let it be known that none think themselves above the rules of site, otherwise it descends into anarchy or worse; despotism! I am sure you will receive this warning with the grace and style you have so accustomed to yourself in your previous actions.&lt;br /&gt;
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:::::: Thank you for your co-operation. --[[User:TK-Squared|TK-Squared]] 13:31, 25 August 2009 (MDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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:::::::TK, good to see you!  Could you place the same warning on GD's talk page for Jota's cursing too please?  Thanks! &amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;lt;small&amp;gt;&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;border: 1px solid black; -moz-border-radius:10px&amp;quot;&amp;gt;[[User:Hooper|'''&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;background-color:White; color:Black; -moz-border-radius-topleft:10px; -moz-border-radius-bottomleft:10px&amp;quot;&amp;gt;  Hooper  &amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;''']][[User talk:Hooper|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;background-color:Black; color:white; -moz-border-radius-bottomleft:10px; -moz-border-radius-topleft:10px&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;amp;nbsp;talk&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]][[Special:Contributions/Hooper|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;background-color:black; color:white&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;amp;nbsp;contribs&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]][[Special:Emailuser/Hooper|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;background-color:black; color:white; -moz-border-radius-bottomright:10px; -moz-border-radius-topright:10px&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;amp;nbsp;email&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]]&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;&amp;lt;/small&amp;gt; 13:33, 25 August 2009 (MDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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:::::::: (Sigh) This warning should go over real well... (Patiently awaiting the public executions to come.)  Haha. Jk.  What up TK!  We love you man.  --[[User:Jay Freedman|Jay Freedman]] 13:56, 25 August 2009 (MDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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:::::::::Their are stupid people in the world...  That's not name calling &amp;amp;mdash; it's brutal honesty.  And [[User:TK-Squared|TK-Squared]] you have zero authority here; do not act like you do.  Also I am pretty positive you deleted the old wikia's D&amp;amp;D wiki.  I have no idea what wikia was thinking to let you have root access to their servers.  I am calling them dumb people as well.  You ruined a wiki in about 10 minutes and you have no regret?  Everyone liked that site as well and all you people can do is bitch at me about it?  Don't just sit around bitching to me about yur petty problems - get back the damn website.  I have had people unrestore shift-deleted things before.  If you did not shred it there is still a chance you can get it back.  Do something!  Don't just mope and gripe to me about your petty authority problems; fix your mistakes.  --[[User:Green Dragon|Green Dragon]] 16:20, 25 August 2009 (MDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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:::::::::: lol wut --[[User:TK-Squared|TK-Squared]] 16:45, 25 August 2009 (MDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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::::::::::: Green Dragon, what are you even talking about? NOBODY here had anything to do with that wiki at all! [[User:Dragon Child|Dragon Child]] 16:46, 25 August 2009 (MDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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:'''What the hell'''? Listen Green Dragon, you fucking moron. While I'd normally be honored to be so vilified by the likes of you, this is just retarded. The last time anyone did anything on that other wiki was in 2007. If you think I somehow &amp;quot;deleted&amp;quot; their wiki (as if that's even possible on wikia), that makes you even dumber than I had originally given you credit for. (And yes, I did think about adopting that one in like with the wikia policy. I decided against it, and instead started my own wiki. Which in one day surpassed their article count by about five-fold.) I have no idea how you even got this stupid idea. [[User:Surgo|Surgo]] 16:58, 25 August 2009 (MDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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::I don't think we should concern ourselves with the two wikis.  Surgo's wiki states on it's main page that it is for Same Game Test material mostly, which will draw a certain demographic.  Ours will draw a different demographic (the material on our site dedicated to SGT and op material is a small percentage, and I'm sure theres will have a small percentage of more core stuff = not enough for either &amp;quot;side&amp;quot; to worry about the other).  If people on one side or the other don't feel like they can help both, then just leave it be.  Everyone is just going to make themselves more upset as they argue. &amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;lt;small&amp;gt;&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;border: 1px solid black; -moz-border-radius:10px&amp;quot;&amp;gt;[[User:Hooper|'''&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;background-color:White; color:Black; -moz-border-radius-topleft:10px; -moz-border-radius-bottomleft:10px&amp;quot;&amp;gt;  Hooper  &amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;''']][[User talk:Hooper|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;background-color:Black; color:white; -moz-border-radius-bottomleft:10px; -moz-border-radius-topleft:10px&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;amp;nbsp;talk&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]][[Special:Contributions/Hooper|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;background-color:black; color:white&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;amp;nbsp;contribs&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]][[Special:Emailuser/Hooper|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;background-color:black; color:white; -moz-border-radius-bottomright:10px; -moz-border-radius-topright:10px&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;amp;nbsp;email&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]]&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;&amp;lt;/small&amp;gt; 18:37, 25 August 2009 (MDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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::: Good advice Hooper.  Of course, a wise sage once said &amp;quot;He who mediates between lions lives short life.&amp;quot;  So while we would like not to worry about wiki wars... (Thats a cool name. Wiki Wars! I love that! Haha! I am so stupid.) ...this will probably continue for some time.  --[[User:Jay Freedman|Jay Freedman]] 18:47, 25 August 2009 (MDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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:::: Hooper, I'm not sure why you insist on misrepresenting me. My wiki does not say that it is mostly for Same Game Test material...at all. It says it's for all material, and anything that doesn't define a balance point is assumed to be Same Game test. I don't know how it can be any more clear than that (which is what it actually says on the front page). Hooper, the only reason I am even posting here is because Green Dragon made some boneheaded accusation he pulled out of his ass. This has nothing to do with &amp;quot;wiki wars&amp;quot; or whatever (unless this is Green Dragon's weird idea of a 'war' or something). [[User:Surgo|Surgo]] 19:04, 25 August 2009 (MDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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:::::Ah, well if something is &amp;quot;assumed to be SGT&amp;quot; instead of assuming it is &amp;quot;core&amp;quot; ''(for lack of a better word)'', I would say that it is just fostering the above kind of thoughts.  People who support the SGT mind frame will be more prone to follow it is all. As I said above, both wikis will have some of each. &amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;lt;small&amp;gt;&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;border: 1px solid black; -moz-border-radius:10px&amp;quot;&amp;gt;[[User:Hooper|'''&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;background-color:White; color:Black; -moz-border-radius-topleft:10px; -moz-border-radius-bottomleft:10px&amp;quot;&amp;gt;  Hooper  &amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;''']][[User talk:Hooper|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;background-color:Black; color:white; -moz-border-radius-bottomleft:10px; -moz-border-radius-topleft:10px&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;amp;nbsp;talk&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]][[Special:Contributions/Hooper|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;background-color:black; color:white&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;amp;nbsp;contribs&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]][[Special:Emailuser/Hooper|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;background-color:black; color:white; -moz-border-radius-bottomright:10px; -moz-border-radius-topright:10px&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;amp;nbsp;email&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]]&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;&amp;lt;/small&amp;gt; 19:09, 25 August 2009 (MDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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::::::The obvious point of contention is that you say SGT and core are not the same; others would argue otherwise. I don't want to turn this discussion into that, but you say po-tay-to, I say po-tah-to. -- [[User:Jota|Jota]] 20:04, 25 August 2009 (MDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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:::::::Does anyone know where all the content on [http://dnd.wikia.com/wiki/Basics_and_Ability_Scores] went?  With the thought in mind of [http://dungeons.wikia.com/wiki/Main_Page] (permissions).  --[[User:Green Dragon|Green Dragon]] 20:44, 25 August 2009 (MDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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::::::::http://dnd.wikia.com/wiki/Special:Contributions/Maunderingcabal  [http://dnd.wikia.com/wiki/Quickling_Runner] [http://dnd.wikia.com/wiki/Guard_Drake] [http://dnd.wikia.com/wiki/Hobgoblin_Warcaster] [http://dnd.wikia.com/wiki/Corruption_Corpse] [http://dnd.wikia.com/wiki/Warforged_Battle_Champion], etc.  --[[User:Green Dragon|Green Dragon]] 20:49, 25 August 2009 (MDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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:::::::::What the hell is your point? How should any of us know where any of their stuff went? I've only looked at that wiki once in my lifetime. [[User:Surgo|Surgo]] 20:51, 25 August 2009 (MDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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::::::::::I'm not Wikia.  I do not know enough in this instance to make a correct judgement.  I am not positive why the content was removed; I am not Wikia.  One would have to look at IP's and permissions on Wikia's backend to get a better judgment.  Who knows; I am not Wikia.  --[[User:Green Dragon|Green Dragon]] 20:59, 25 August 2009 (MDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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:::::::::::I think this is a good example of GD's attitude. As he yells at, makes threats against, and harasses someone who has done nothing wrong, and with no proof to back it up, and instead just throws out random links incoherently. [[User:Dragon Child|Dragon Child]] 20:58, 25 August 2009 (MDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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:::::::::: @GD.  Dude your freakin me out?  Nobody here took their stuff.  That site must just be having problems.  Surgo would probably just base his new wiki off this one anyway.  He wouldn't model his new site of that wikia in a million years.  He would mimic this site and try to improve it, adding &amp;quot;Surgo Flavor&amp;quot; or something.  Nobody I know messed with that empty wikia.  Sorry.  --[[User:Jay Freedman|Jay Freedman]] 21:00, 25 August 2009 (MDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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:::::::::::That's right. You are not Wikia. That means you should not be throwing around wild-ass and incorrect accusations at me. [[User:Surgo|Surgo]] 21:04, 25 August 2009 (MDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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::::::::::::Seriously GD, what the heck are you on about? Given that a lot of us weren't even aware of that site's existence, how do you expect those pages to mean anything to anyone? -- [[User:Jota|Jota]] 21:04, 25 August 2009 (MDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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:::::::::::::Those links you provided don't even have any content missing, as far as I can tell. No other content was added to them besides the picture of the miniature. You're yelling at someone who did nothing over a &amp;quot;crime&amp;quot; that everyone can see doesn't even exist. Perhaps now it's time to call you stupid, and say it's justified, as some people are just stupid? [[User:Dragon Child|Dragon Child]] 21:05, 25 August 2009 (MDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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::What do you mean you have nothing to do with it? You STARTED this discussion, by falsely accusing, nay, OUTRIGHT LYING AND INSULTING SURGO! [[User:Dragon Child|Dragon Child]] 21:39, 25 August 2009 (MDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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:::I asked a question.  --[[User:Green Dragon|Green Dragon]] 21:41, 25 August 2009 (MDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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::::That's pretty funny, because I don't see a question mark in your post. [[User:Surgo|Surgo]] 21:49, 2 September 2009 (MDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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:You guys need to take this discussion (about Wikia's wiki's) onto Wikia's pages. I have nothing to do with it. --[[User:Green Dragon|Green Dragon]] 21:24, 25 August 2009 (MDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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Recently in our discussions on the possibility of having templates on SGT material, you routinely stated that you believe things should state facts.  I agree.  Completely.  I believe your current user page misrepresents the amount of users who left, and should be altered to be more factually correct ''(i.e. &amp;quot;left with some&amp;quot; instead of the incorrect &amp;quot;most&amp;quot;)''. &amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;lt;small&amp;gt;&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;border: 1px solid black; -moz-border-radius:10px&amp;quot;&amp;gt;[[User:Hooper|'''&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;background-color:White; color:Black; -moz-border-radius-topleft:10px; -moz-border-radius-bottomleft:10px&amp;quot;&amp;gt;  Hooper  &amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;''']][[User talk:Hooper|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;background-color:Black; color:white; -moz-border-radius-bottomleft:10px; -moz-border-radius-topleft:10px&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;amp;nbsp;talk&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]][[Special:Contributions/Hooper|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;background-color:black; color:white&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;amp;nbsp;contribs&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]][[Special:Emailuser/Hooper|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;background-color:black; color:white; -moz-border-radius-bottomright:10px; -moz-border-radius-topright:10px&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;amp;nbsp;email&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]]&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;&amp;lt;/small&amp;gt; 14:59, 3 September 2009 (MDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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:Perhaps if you feel it is infactual, you should tell me actual percentages of users that have left so it can have the utmost accuracy. After all, looking at your current and former &amp;quot;active users&amp;quot; list, I believe that what I said is entirely factual. So I think you are wrong. [[User:Surgo|Surgo]] 17:24, 3 September 2009 (MDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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::Seriously Hooper? I thought you were a bit more mature than that. --[[User:208.90.100.111|208.90.100.111]] 18:00, 3 September 2009 (MDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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:::I'm being mature, and requesting a not-factually correct statement to be amended by an individual who has proven to value factual statements.  You want the statistics?  Fair enough.  Users who can arguably be said to be officially gone from this wiki to your wiki and who aren't still active on both are  (and please let me know if I miss anyone):  You, TK, Aarnot, Danial Draco, Eiji, Sam Kay, Sabre, Rith, Summerscythe, and Val.  Combined, their edit contributions equal 23,315 edits.  Even if we assume one page count equals one page, that  isn't even half of our pages on the wiki (and that is giving these edits ALOT more credit). Since the timeframe of the split, yours has about roughly 30 active users.  Since the only stat I can provide is the last 500 edits on this wiki, and if we do not count any of the people from your wiki (since their edits were probably related to the split) we have 21 active users - that is less than two days.  If I had a method to show stats - we can follow the same obvious trend and up this number amazingly so. We've also had 128 new users since August 10th - roughly the time of the split give a day or two, of which 56 have been active - and even trimming that to &amp;quot;more active than user page activity&amp;quot; still leaves 27.  Did you take some active users?  Yes.  Some valuable users? Yes.  Most?  No.  Half?   No.  Once again, I appreciated and agreed with your comments during the SGT template discussions for factual accuracy, and I hold you to those standards. &amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;lt;small&amp;gt;&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;border: 1px solid black; -moz-border-radius:10px&amp;quot;&amp;gt;[[User:Hooper|'''&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;background-color:White; color:Black; -moz-border-radius-topleft:10px; -moz-border-radius-bottomleft:10px&amp;quot;&amp;gt;  Hooper  &amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;''']][[User talk:Hooper|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;background-color:Black; color:white; -moz-border-radius-bottomleft:10px; -moz-border-radius-topleft:10px&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;amp;nbsp;talk&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]][[Special:Contributions/Hooper|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;background-color:black; color:white&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;amp;nbsp;contribs&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]][[Special:Emailuser/Hooper|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;background-color:black; color:white; -moz-border-radius-bottomright:10px; -moz-border-radius-topright:10px&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;amp;nbsp;email&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]]&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;&amp;lt;/small&amp;gt; 19:54, 3 September 2009 (MDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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:::::I did miss one person I believe.   Lord Dhazriel.  Even with his edits you still only have 27,889.  Out of '''391,805'''.  True that there is no possibly way to get verifiable stats for say, the last 6 month percentage, but it still isn't close to half. If you want to say &amp;quot;most of the tavern regulars&amp;quot; then you may have some factual truth behind that. &lt;br /&gt;
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::::::You've missed about 10 people in that list. Once again, just compare the former &amp;quot;active users&amp;quot; list to the current one. And never mind the total ridiculous nature of edit count, which means absolutely nothing. And add to that what Jota just said below me...active users, not one-and-done signups. No, I'm thinking my user page is perfectly factual here. Sorry if you're somehow getting some proxy butthurt for Green Dragon over the split or something. [[User:Surgo|Surgo]] 20:03, 3 September 2009 (MDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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::::::: It not about edits, I mean if you count one-time IP and '''bots''' as active users then yes, only a small part of the active userbase left. But they do not, at least to my knowledge, only a few dozen of users actively contributed to this wiki at all time. These were (or are) active users, most IP or registered users only make 1 or 2 edits before leaving the wiki forever. --[[User:Lord Dhazriel|Dhazriel]] 20:04, 3 September 2009 (MDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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:::::::::Perhaps you should learn the meaning of your statistics before you post them. All of those edits could be made by people who have since left years ago. Then a few people remain, and are active with a few hundred edits a piece. Then 3/4ths of them leave. Guess what? The majority of active users ''still left'', even if the people responsible for the majority of edits ''have not technically left with them''. If you're going to throw statistics around, you should at least demonstrate some basic understanding of them. [[User:Surgo|Surgo]] 20:12, 3 September 2009 (MDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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::::::::::Actually, I do understand them, and I provided the only verifiable stats I could - the last 500 counts for just a couple days - which nearly equal your site's number of active users since its inception.  I 'm not going to throw out a number that I can't verify - but using that formula and expanding it to the same time since your site started - we could easilly verify the last month's active users being more.  You must have overlooked that above. &amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;lt;small&amp;gt;&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;border: 1px solid black; -moz-border-radius:10px&amp;quot;&amp;gt;[[User:Hooper|'''&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;background-color:White; color:Black; -moz-border-radius-topleft:10px; -moz-border-radius-bottomleft:10px&amp;quot;&amp;gt;  Hooper  &amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;''']][[User talk:Hooper|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;background-color:Black; color:white; -moz-border-radius-bottomleft:10px; -moz-border-radius-topleft:10px&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;amp;nbsp;talk&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]][[Special:Contributions/Hooper|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;background-color:black; color:white&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;amp;nbsp;contribs&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]][[Special:Emailuser/Hooper|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;background-color:black; color:white; -moz-border-radius-bottomright:10px; -moz-border-radius-topright:10px&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;amp;nbsp;email&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]]&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;&amp;lt;/small&amp;gt; 20:15, 3 September 2009 (MDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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:::::::::::I overlooked nothing, but I thought it was so obvious that it didn't even need saying: how many of those edits are the nonsensical noise between you and Ghostwheel? And how many edits on my site are more than noise? See, reasons like this are why trying to compare penis size, err, edit count, is complete nonsense. [[User:Surgo|Surgo]] 20:20, 3 September 2009 (MDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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::::::::::: Hooper, just... just stop it, eh? As long as it's not offensive, Surgo can (I think?) have just about anything he wants on his user page. He could state the sky was purple. It's not factually true, but he can say whatever he wants. People who want to see for themselves will do a little research. People who don't care won't. But in the end, right now it just looks like you're being stubborn and obstinate for no real reason. --[[User:Ghostwheel|Ghostwheel]] 20:19, 3 September 2009 (MDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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::If your standard is statistics that don't mean anything, sure. Unfortunately, I'm still being factually correct and you're throwing some half-baked ideas at me that don't say what you're claiming they say. [[User:Surgo|Surgo]] 20:23, 3 September 2009 (MDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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::::Did you just miss that whole part where I debunked these statistics above? Okay, whatever you say man. [[User:Surgo|Surgo]] 20:28, 3 September 2009 (MDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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::::::'''Statistics need to mean something in order to lend any weight!''' I'm not sure how many times I'm going to have to make this point. But I'm sure you're just going to ignore it and somehow claim these 20 or so edits on this page and all the deletions I recently performed are somehow indicative that I count as an active user of this wiki, or something. [[User:Surgo|Surgo]] 20:32, 3 September 2009 (MDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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:::::::Seriously Hooper, your statistics indicate absolutely nothing, and I'm not sure that there is a way to get statistics that will accurately indicate who is correct. The fact that you have provided any numbers does not place you in the position to ask or demand anything or Surgo when your numbers don't mean anything. -- [[User:Jota|Jota]] 20:34, 3 September 2009 (MDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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:::::::::In the year of 2008, 55,170 1994 Honda Accords were stolen in the United States. There we go -- a statistic that is exactly as relevent as what you have been posting here. [[User:Surgo|Surgo]] 20:38, 3 September 2009 (MDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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:No, Hooper, your numbers mean less than nothing, and I gave numbers in the other thread, relevant numbers. You're doing the same thing here you did there: refusing to acknowledge information that proves contrary to your personal opinion because its suits you. -- [[User:Jota|Jota]] 20:40, 3 September 2009 (MDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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::@Hooper.  Wait a minute.  Your telling Surgo to change a few stupid words on his user page?  Are you a flippin' freakin' blanky' blank.  (I don't like cursing)  I want to ban you sooooo bad for picking this fight bro.  I love ya man.  But I ain't cool with this.  I ain't cool with this.  --[[User:Jay Freedman|Jay Freedman]] 20:40, 3 September 2009 (MDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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:::No, Jay.  It is his user page and if he wants to leave it like it is, that is fine.  I just know from past experience he likes people to be factually correct and was hoping that he would be the same way.  If not, then that is fine, I brought up the point and thats done.  &amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;lt;small&amp;gt;&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;border: 1px solid black; -moz-border-radius:10px&amp;quot;&amp;gt;[[User:Hooper|'''&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;background-color:White; color:Black; -moz-border-radius-topleft:10px; -moz-border-radius-bottomleft:10px&amp;quot;&amp;gt;  Hooper  &amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;''']][[User talk:Hooper|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;background-color:Black; color:white; -moz-border-radius-bottomleft:10px; -moz-border-radius-topleft:10px&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;amp;nbsp;talk&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]][[Special:Contributions/Hooper|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;background-color:black; color:white&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;amp;nbsp;contribs&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]][[Special:Emailuser/Hooper|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;background-color:black; color:white; -moz-border-radius-bottomright:10px; -moz-border-radius-topright:10px&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;amp;nbsp;email&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]]&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;&amp;lt;/small&amp;gt; 20:42, 3 September 2009 (MDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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::::And I am factually correct, of course. [[User:Surgo|Surgo]] 20:46, 3 September 2009 (MDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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:::::The easiest way to shut me up would be to prove that statement.  &amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;lt;small&amp;gt;&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;border: 1px solid black; -moz-border-radius:10px&amp;quot;&amp;gt;[[User:Hooper|'''&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;background-color:White; color:Black; -moz-border-radius-topleft:10px; -moz-border-radius-bottomleft:10px&amp;quot;&amp;gt;  Hooper  &amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;''']][[User talk:Hooper|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;background-color:Black; color:white; -moz-border-radius-bottomleft:10px; -moz-border-radius-topleft:10px&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;amp;nbsp;talk&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]][[Special:Contributions/Hooper|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;background-color:black; color:white&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;amp;nbsp;contribs&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]][[Special:Emailuser/Hooper|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;background-color:black; color:white; -moz-border-radius-bottomright:10px; -moz-border-radius-topright:10px&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;amp;nbsp;email&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]]&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;&amp;lt;/small&amp;gt; 20:49, 3 September 2009 (MDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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::::::I already gave the evidence for it...multiple times. Compare the number of active users before with the number of active users now. [[User:Surgo|Surgo]] 20:50, 3 September 2009 (MDT)&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
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		<title>User talk:Surgo</title>
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		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;Surgo: /* Factual Statements */&lt;/p&gt;
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== Protection for Tome Classes ==&lt;br /&gt;
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I wondered if you want to protect the tome-classes against IP edit. Maybe it would be better?--[[User:Lord Dhazriel|Lord Dhazriel]] 15:21, 27 January 2009 (MST)&lt;br /&gt;
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:I'd be very appreciative, and I'm sure Surgo would be, too. It'd cut back on the amount of edit undoing we'd have to do. What ''is'' it about lately? There's been a bunch of IPs changing random classes and races all over the Wiki... --[[User:Genowhirl|Genowhirl]] 10:15, 28 January 2009 (MST)&lt;br /&gt;
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== For Your Consideration ==&lt;br /&gt;
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I've noticed the ammount of people who have been giving the things made by Frank and K bad ratings before they understood the idea behind the class, and so, have made this template to try and help you guys out:&lt;br /&gt;
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{{Frank and K material}}&lt;br /&gt;
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Hope it helps (also, I officially hand over all rights to this template to you and Genowhirl, since I have no hand in any Frank and K material and don't really know what should or shouldn't go into this template). &amp;amp;rarr; [[User:Rithaniel|&amp;lt;span style=color:Gray; -moz-border-radius-topleft:25px; -moz-border-radius-bottomleft:20px&amp;quot;&amp;gt;Rith&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]]&amp;lt;sup&amp;gt; [[User talk:Rithaniel|&amp;lt;span style=color:black; -moz-border-radius-bottomleft:20px; -moz-border-radius-topleft:20px&amp;quot;&amp;gt;(talk)&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]]&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; 21:45, 14 March 2009 (MDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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:Lol, that is awesome. Thanks dude. [[User:Surgo|Surgo]] 22:00, 14 March 2009 (MDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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::Heh, it's no problem man, just glad I could help. ''':)''' &amp;amp;rarr; [[User:Rithaniel|&amp;lt;span style=color:Gray; -moz-border-radius-topleft:25px; -moz-border-radius-bottomleft:20px&amp;quot;&amp;gt;Rith&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]]&amp;lt;sup&amp;gt; [[User talk:Rithaniel|&amp;lt;span style=color:black; -moz-border-radius-bottomleft:20px; -moz-border-radius-topleft:20px&amp;quot;&amp;gt;(talk)&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]]&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; 01:59, 15 March 2009 (MDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Comment ==&lt;br /&gt;
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Thanks for taking the time to spotlight me in the Tavern. In light of many of the recent discussions going on around the site, I'd much appreciate a more friendly personal approach.  If you don't agree with something I state, that is fine, but please refrain from attacking mine, or anyone elses, intelligence.  Thank you in advance for your cooperation. &amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;lt;small&amp;gt;&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;border: 1px solid blue; -moz-border-radius:10px&amp;quot;&amp;gt;[[User:Hooper|'''&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;background-color:White; color:FireBrick; -moz-border-radius-topleft:10px; -moz-border-radius-bottomleft:10px&amp;quot;&amp;gt;  Hooper  &amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;''']][[User talk:Hooper|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;background-color:red; color:blue; -moz-border-radius-bottomleft:10px; -moz-border-radius-topleft:10px&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;amp;nbsp;talk&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]][[Special:Contributions/Hooper|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;background-color:red; color:blue&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;amp;nbsp;contribs&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]][[Special:Emailuser/Hooper|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;background-color:red; color:blue; -moz-border-radius-bottomright:10px; -moz-border-radius-topright:10px&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;amp;nbsp;email&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]]&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;&amp;lt;/small&amp;gt; 01:18, 15 March 2009 (MDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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:What? Where was I attacking your intelligence? I remember saying you were impervious to logic, for the reason of [[Talk:Incompetent (DnD Flaw)]], which is not the same thing as attacking your intelligence. [[User:Surgo|Surgo]] 01:27, 15 March 2009 (MDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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::Being impervious to logic means one is unaffected or unable to be affected by logic.  This brings up the question of &amp;quot;if one is rude in The Tavern should it count as the same as being rude while editing?&amp;quot;  If so it would almost be as if everyone who uses the tavern would get an instant permanent ban.  Huh.  Personally I say no - when Tavern Admins come around they should just use their own judgement.  And before that time keep it like it is - The Tavern has no effect on the wiki.  --[[User:Green Dragon|Green Dragon]] 09:32, 15 March 2009 (MDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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I don't know what people really wanted for Alchemical Potions so i just made this shinanigan for the peeps. you can make it the way you think it should be. --[[User:D.M.DemonicPanda|D.M.DemonicPanda]] 21:57, 3 April 2009&lt;br /&gt;
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''Comment moved to [[Talk:Alchemist (DnD Class)]]..''&lt;br /&gt;
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== Apology ==&lt;br /&gt;
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Hey, me again. I just wanted to apologize for calling you a power gamer, in case you didn't see the apology on the [[Talk:Incompetent (DnD Flaw)]] page. I can get quite stubborn sometimes. Sorry!--[[User:Fathirian Hound|Fathirian Hound]] 09:15, 20 March 2009 (MDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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:Don't worry about it, dude. [[User:Surgo|Surgo]] 22:26, 20 March 2009 (MDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Barnstar ==&lt;br /&gt;
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{{Barnstar|Thanks for nominating the [[DnD Flaws|flaws]] with purely roleplaying benefits for deletion, and nominating the unusable [[3.5e Quests|quests]] for deletion.  Thanks for helping out with a little spring cleaning.  --[[User:Green Dragon|Green Dragon]] 04:03, 22 March 2009 (MDT)}}&lt;br /&gt;
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== Adminship ==&lt;br /&gt;
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Welcome to Adminship.  You are now part of &amp;quot;The Face&amp;quot; of D&amp;amp;D Wiki.  Honestly, as you will notice, not much has been changed now that you are an admin.  If anything, I would say more burden is placed on you.  But first, for the the new features and their uses.  You can now delete pages, protect pages, rollback edits, block users and IP's, edit every page, patrol edits, and do a couple more minor things.&lt;br /&gt;
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;What it is:&lt;br /&gt;
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*What deleting pages is, is self explanatory.&lt;br /&gt;
*What protecting pages is, is also pretty self explanatory.&lt;br /&gt;
*Rolling back edits is a method for removing spam.  It is more powerful than the conventional method of undoing edits.  Instead of showing a diff of the edit in question once clicked, it instantly rollsback all the edits by the user or IP in question on a certain page.  For example if I edited my user page and you clicked &amp;quot;rollback&amp;quot; on that edit it would rollback all the edits up to the point where someone else has edited it.  Be careful using this, it can be very helpful but also very harmful.&lt;br /&gt;
*What blocking users and IP's is, is also self explanatory.&lt;br /&gt;
*Editing every page is another self explanatory one.&lt;br /&gt;
*Patrolling edits is a method for keeping [[Special:Recentchanges|RC]] in check, it can be seen once a diff is clicked.  All it does is, once &amp;quot;Mark as Patrolled Edits&amp;quot; is clicked, it marks the edits as patrolled so the edit will no longer show up on [[Special:Recentchanges|RC]] when &amp;quot;Hide Patrolled&amp;quot; is marked.&lt;br /&gt;
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;When or how it should be used&lt;br /&gt;
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*Deleting pages is done through [[:Category:Candidates for Deletion]].&lt;br /&gt;
*Protecting pages has quite a few different times when it should be used.  Pages should be protected according to the author's wishes (with [[Template:Locked Page]] added to the top of the page in question), in case of conflict  (with [[Template:Temp Locked Page]] added to the top of the page in question), in case of [[Help:FAQ#What are OGL, OGC, SRD, and GNU FPL?|OGC]] published materials (with [[Template:OGL Top]] added to the top of the page in question  and [[Template:OGL Bottom]] added to the bottom), or finally if the page is a vital part of D&amp;amp;D Wiki's infrastructure.  If it deals with D&amp;amp;D Wiki's infrastructure it either needs to be be protected from IP edits or all non-sysop edits.  As a rule of thumb pages up to two tiers deep from the [[Main Page]] are normally locked to anyone but sysops and all the others are just protected from IP edits.  For Example [[Dungeons and Dragons]] is protected from all non-sysop edits whereas a deeper in page like [[LA 0 Races]] is only protected from IP edits.  No template has to be added to pages if thay are part of D&amp;amp;D Wiki's organization (even though some do exist like [[Template:Admin Locked Page]])&lt;br /&gt;
*Blocking a user or IP should only be used after an IP or user vandalizes a certain page.  To block someone just click &amp;quot;block&amp;quot; (found either on [[Special:Recentchanges|RC]] or the diff in question) and fill out the corresponding form.  For a typical vandalism attack I normally block the user for two weeks.&lt;br /&gt;
*Editing every page on D&amp;amp;D Wiki mostly means you can now edit the [[SRD:System Reference Document|SRD]] and the [[MSRD:Modern System Reference Document|MSRD]].  Feel free to edit them if you find inaccuracies, and please feel free to help out with [[SRD Talk:System Reference Document#SRD ToDo List]] or [[MSRD Talk:Modern System Reference Document#Tasks]].&lt;br /&gt;
*Patrolling edits should be used when you have looked over an edit and fixed everything that needs to be fixed.   (this includes answering questions, sending MoI's, etc).&lt;br /&gt;
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You have more burden on yourself now that you are an admin because users will be looking at you for editing help, knowledge of D&amp;amp;D, editing guidelines, the standards, etc etc.  It's a bit more work, but I really hope you enjoy being an admin.  --[[User:Green Dragon|Green Dragon]] 13:12, 5 April 2009 (MDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Re: Thank You ==&lt;br /&gt;
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Why you're very welcome, I think I'll enjoy it when the job's done, yes...&lt;br /&gt;
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== AdminBadge ==&lt;br /&gt;
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I'd like to label you as an admin with the &amp;lt;s&amp;gt;&amp;lt;nowiki&amp;gt;[[Template:AdminBadge]]&amp;lt;/nowiki&amp;gt;&amp;lt;/s&amp;gt; on your user page. If you have a reason you don't think you should have the badge or you don't think the badge is a good idea, please discuss it on the badge's [[Template talk:AdminBadge|discussion]]. -[[User:Valentine the Rogue|Valentine the Rogue]] 16:08, 11 April 2009 (MDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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:I'm not going to put it on my page, because I don't want people to treat me differently because I'm an admin. [[User:Surgo|Surgo]] 17:10, 15 April 2009 (MDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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==Adminship==&lt;br /&gt;
Due to my recent illness and moving I've been on very sporadically and as such was not able to comment on your RfA.  However, if I had been able to I would of thrown down a support.  You've done some great things and I especially enjoy the future of your bots. &amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;lt;small&amp;gt;&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;border: 1px solid blue; -moz-border-radius:10px&amp;quot;&amp;gt;[[User:Hooper|'''&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;background-color:White; color:FireBrick; -moz-border-radius-topleft:10px; -moz-border-radius-bottomleft:10px&amp;quot;&amp;gt;  Hooper  &amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;''']][[User talk:Hooper|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;background-color:red; color:blue; -moz-border-radius-bottomleft:10px; -moz-border-radius-topleft:10px&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;amp;nbsp;talk&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]][[Special:Contributions/Hooper|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;background-color:red; color:blue&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;amp;nbsp;contribs&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]][[Special:Emailuser/Hooper|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;background-color:red; color:blue; -moz-border-radius-bottomright:10px; -moz-border-radius-topright:10px&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;amp;nbsp;email&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]]&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;&amp;lt;/small&amp;gt; 10:29, 12 April 2009 (MDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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:Thanks! [[User:Surgo|Surgo]] 17:10, 15 April 2009 (MDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Bot ==&lt;br /&gt;
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[[User:Dmilewski/Wikibot]]&lt;br /&gt;
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From a proper programmer's point of view, the script needs work. From a workhorse point of view, the thing it damned reliable. I usually change the purpose to PRINT to check my work, then run the script as WRITE to save the changes. --[[User:Dmilewski|Dmilewski]] 04:23, 23 April 2009 (MDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Deletion ==&lt;br /&gt;
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On May 12, you deleted two of my classes (Battle Mage and Ulfsark), with the reason for deletion being &amp;quot;Not enough information to be played.  However, both classes were as complete or more complete than any of the SRD classes.[[User:Zyxw59|Zyxw59]] 15:12, 6 July 2009 (MDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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:Don't take my word for it, here they are, temporarily restored: [[Ulfsark (DnD Class)]] and [[Battle Mage (DnD Class)]]. Carry on. --[[User:Ganteka|Ganteka]] 15:27, 6 July 2009 (MDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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::Battle Mage: the mechanics of the blast are never outlined. Ulfsark: There's not enough information to actually ''use'' homeland defense (I'm not sure when it should actually be applied -- something I can't say for any of the SRD classes, which I know exactly how they work). Both classes still have the problem that they're way too weak, though. [[User:Surgo|Surgo]] 22:08, 6 July 2009 (MDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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:::Thanks for the explanation, I will add a description to them.  {{Unsigned|Zyxw59|09:55, 9 July 2009 (MDT)}}&lt;br /&gt;
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::::'''It is still not workable'''. A ranged touch attack, by itself, doesn't tell you its range, among other things. What you NEED to do is go through the pages, pretend you know NOTHING about the classes and you didn't make them, and ''see if there are enough rules written there to '''actually use them'''''. Homeland defense is '''still''' retarded, because at any given point in time a member of my clan somewhere in the world might be attacked and ''how on earth does that work''? Seriously, these are nowhere near SRD level. [[User:Surgo|Surgo]] 14:09, 9 July 2009 (MDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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:::::We have standards on D&amp;amp;D Wiki.  These do not meet them in terms of being usable or not.  As such they got deleted.  If you can fix them in time the deletion is up they will not be deleted.  If not they will be deleted.  --[[User:Green Dragon|Green Dragon]] 17:51, 9 July 2009 (MDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Barnstar the Second ==&lt;br /&gt;
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{{Barnstar|Thanks for making a bot to update all of the breadcrumbs for spells. That saves a lot of manual adjustment (and potential errors caused by manual edits). --[[User:Aarnott|Aarnott]] 22:30, 3 August 2009 (MDT)}}&lt;br /&gt;
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== Gone ==&lt;br /&gt;
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I, along with most of my friends here, have left this wiki due to apparently unresolvable conflict with the administrator to make our own wiki. If you ever need to contact me for some reason, you can email (morgon Dot kanter At gmail Dot com). [[User:Surgo|Surgo]] 08:51, 19 August 2009 (MDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Wikia ==&lt;br /&gt;
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Please do not tell me you deleted wikia's D&amp;amp;D install!  Everyone liked that site as well!  If someone gave you root access to wikia and you deleted their D&amp;amp;D site the whole internet world is going to get '''very''' fucking annoyed with you.&lt;br /&gt;
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Please no.  [http://www.google.com/search?q=wikia+Dungeons+and+Dragons&amp;amp;ie=utf-8&amp;amp;oe=utf-8&amp;amp;aq=t&amp;amp;rls=com.ubuntu:en-US:unofficial&amp;amp;client=firefox-a search criteria].  --[[User:Green Dragon|Green Dragon]] 12:39, 25 August 2009 (MDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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:I cannot find any of the content that was on wikia's dungeons and dragons website anymore.  If you deleted peoples content without any form of permission on wikia because of wrongly given root access the entire internet world will hate you.  All I could find was an archived history of wikia's dungeons and dragons information - [http://www.wikiindex.org/Dungeons_and_Dragons_Wikia].  Other then that I think you may have just shredded wikia's dungeons and dragons section and could be the '''stupidest''' person I have '''ever''' seen or heard from.&lt;br /&gt;
:'''Wikia:''' http://dnd.wikia.com/wiki/Main_Page&lt;br /&gt;
:'''Possible Archive:'''  http://www.wikiindex.org/Dungeons_and_Dragons_Wikia&lt;br /&gt;
:'''Possible Restart:'''  http://dndta.wikia.com/wiki/Dungeons_%26_Dragons_Tiny_Adventures&lt;br /&gt;
:I don't think you understand that people ''worked'' on their content their, the rules were '''different''' their, etc.  --[[User:Green Dragon|Green Dragon]] 13:00, 25 August 2009 (MDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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::I hope you backed it up before you started working their.  I hope you did not shred it.  --[[User:Green Dragon|Green Dragon]] 13:07, 25 August 2009 (MDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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::: Ummm... GD, that's not even their &amp;quot;new&amp;quot; wiki. I don't think Surgo or anyone else from this site has anything to do with that. --[[User:Ghostwheel|Ghostwheel]] 13:09, 25 August 2009 (MDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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:::: I don't get it?  What happened to the DnD wikia?  --[[User:Jay Freedman|Jay Freedman]] 13:11, 25 August 2009 (MDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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:::::Ghost, I think what he means is that all of Wikia is psuedo-linked, and Surgo had needed some additional access/tools to get the new wiki to run the way he needed it to, and may have unknowingly deleted another wikia wiki's information.  Not that I know if that is or not, I just think that is what he means. &amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;lt;small&amp;gt;&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;border: 1px solid black; -moz-border-radius:10px&amp;quot;&amp;gt;[[User:Hooper|'''&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;background-color:White; color:Black; -moz-border-radius-topleft:10px; -moz-border-radius-bottomleft:10px&amp;quot;&amp;gt;  Hooper  &amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;''']][[User talk:Hooper|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;background-color:Black; color:white; -moz-border-radius-bottomleft:10px; -moz-border-radius-topleft:10px&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;amp;nbsp;talk&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]][[Special:Contributions/Hooper|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;background-color:black; color:white&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;amp;nbsp;contribs&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]][[Special:Emailuser/Hooper|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;background-color:black; color:white; -moz-border-radius-bottomright:10px; -moz-border-radius-topright:10px&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;amp;nbsp;email&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]]&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;&amp;lt;/small&amp;gt; 13:27, 25 August 2009 (MDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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:::::: Acting as a People's Repesentitive of Law and Order (as laid down by bureaucrat [[User:Green Dragon|Green Dragon]]), I, hereby, warn you, [[User:Green Dragon|Green Dragon]], for your conduct in this section of [[User:Surgo|Surgo]]'s talk page. Let it be known that none think themselves above the rules of site, otherwise it descends into anarchy or worse; despotism! I am sure you will receive this warning with the grace and style you have so accustomed to yourself in your previous actions.&lt;br /&gt;
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:::::: Thank you for your co-operation. --[[User:TK-Squared|TK-Squared]] 13:31, 25 August 2009 (MDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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:::::::TK, good to see you!  Could you place the same warning on GD's talk page for Jota's cursing too please?  Thanks! &amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;lt;small&amp;gt;&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;border: 1px solid black; -moz-border-radius:10px&amp;quot;&amp;gt;[[User:Hooper|'''&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;background-color:White; color:Black; -moz-border-radius-topleft:10px; -moz-border-radius-bottomleft:10px&amp;quot;&amp;gt;  Hooper  &amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;''']][[User talk:Hooper|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;background-color:Black; color:white; -moz-border-radius-bottomleft:10px; -moz-border-radius-topleft:10px&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;amp;nbsp;talk&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]][[Special:Contributions/Hooper|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;background-color:black; color:white&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;amp;nbsp;contribs&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]][[Special:Emailuser/Hooper|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;background-color:black; color:white; -moz-border-radius-bottomright:10px; -moz-border-radius-topright:10px&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;amp;nbsp;email&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]]&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;&amp;lt;/small&amp;gt; 13:33, 25 August 2009 (MDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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:::::::: (Sigh) This warning should go over real well... (Patiently awaiting the public executions to come.)  Haha. Jk.  What up TK!  We love you man.  --[[User:Jay Freedman|Jay Freedman]] 13:56, 25 August 2009 (MDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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:::::::::Their are stupid people in the world...  That's not name calling &amp;amp;mdash; it's brutal honesty.  And [[User:TK-Squared|TK-Squared]] you have zero authority here; do not act like you do.  Also I am pretty positive you deleted the old wikia's D&amp;amp;D wiki.  I have no idea what wikia was thinking to let you have root access to their servers.  I am calling them dumb people as well.  You ruined a wiki in about 10 minutes and you have no regret?  Everyone liked that site as well and all you people can do is bitch at me about it?  Don't just sit around bitching to me about yur petty problems - get back the damn website.  I have had people unrestore shift-deleted things before.  If you did not shred it there is still a chance you can get it back.  Do something!  Don't just mope and gripe to me about your petty authority problems; fix your mistakes.  --[[User:Green Dragon|Green Dragon]] 16:20, 25 August 2009 (MDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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:::::::::: lol wut --[[User:TK-Squared|TK-Squared]] 16:45, 25 August 2009 (MDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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::::::::::: Green Dragon, what are you even talking about? NOBODY here had anything to do with that wiki at all! [[User:Dragon Child|Dragon Child]] 16:46, 25 August 2009 (MDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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:'''What the hell'''? Listen Green Dragon, you fucking moron. While I'd normally be honored to be so vilified by the likes of you, this is just retarded. The last time anyone did anything on that other wiki was in 2007. If you think I somehow &amp;quot;deleted&amp;quot; their wiki (as if that's even possible on wikia), that makes you even dumber than I had originally given you credit for. (And yes, I did think about adopting that one in like with the wikia policy. I decided against it, and instead started my own wiki. Which in one day surpassed their article count by about five-fold.) I have no idea how you even got this stupid idea. [[User:Surgo|Surgo]] 16:58, 25 August 2009 (MDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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::I don't think we should concern ourselves with the two wikis.  Surgo's wiki states on it's main page that it is for Same Game Test material mostly, which will draw a certain demographic.  Ours will draw a different demographic (the material on our site dedicated to SGT and op material is a small percentage, and I'm sure theres will have a small percentage of more core stuff = not enough for either &amp;quot;side&amp;quot; to worry about the other).  If people on one side or the other don't feel like they can help both, then just leave it be.  Everyone is just going to make themselves more upset as they argue. &amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;lt;small&amp;gt;&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;border: 1px solid black; -moz-border-radius:10px&amp;quot;&amp;gt;[[User:Hooper|'''&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;background-color:White; color:Black; -moz-border-radius-topleft:10px; -moz-border-radius-bottomleft:10px&amp;quot;&amp;gt;  Hooper  &amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;''']][[User talk:Hooper|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;background-color:Black; color:white; -moz-border-radius-bottomleft:10px; -moz-border-radius-topleft:10px&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;amp;nbsp;talk&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]][[Special:Contributions/Hooper|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;background-color:black; color:white&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;amp;nbsp;contribs&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]][[Special:Emailuser/Hooper|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;background-color:black; color:white; -moz-border-radius-bottomright:10px; -moz-border-radius-topright:10px&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;amp;nbsp;email&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]]&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;&amp;lt;/small&amp;gt; 18:37, 25 August 2009 (MDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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::: Good advice Hooper.  Of course, a wise sage once said &amp;quot;He who mediates between lions lives short life.&amp;quot;  So while we would like not to worry about wiki wars... (Thats a cool name. Wiki Wars! I love that! Haha! I am so stupid.) ...this will probably continue for some time.  --[[User:Jay Freedman|Jay Freedman]] 18:47, 25 August 2009 (MDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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:::: Hooper, I'm not sure why you insist on misrepresenting me. My wiki does not say that it is mostly for Same Game Test material...at all. It says it's for all material, and anything that doesn't define a balance point is assumed to be Same Game test. I don't know how it can be any more clear than that (which is what it actually says on the front page). Hooper, the only reason I am even posting here is because Green Dragon made some boneheaded accusation he pulled out of his ass. This has nothing to do with &amp;quot;wiki wars&amp;quot; or whatever (unless this is Green Dragon's weird idea of a 'war' or something). [[User:Surgo|Surgo]] 19:04, 25 August 2009 (MDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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:::::Ah, well if something is &amp;quot;assumed to be SGT&amp;quot; instead of assuming it is &amp;quot;core&amp;quot; ''(for lack of a better word)'', I would say that it is just fostering the above kind of thoughts.  People who support the SGT mind frame will be more prone to follow it is all. As I said above, both wikis will have some of each. &amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;lt;small&amp;gt;&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;border: 1px solid black; -moz-border-radius:10px&amp;quot;&amp;gt;[[User:Hooper|'''&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;background-color:White; color:Black; -moz-border-radius-topleft:10px; -moz-border-radius-bottomleft:10px&amp;quot;&amp;gt;  Hooper  &amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;''']][[User talk:Hooper|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;background-color:Black; color:white; -moz-border-radius-bottomleft:10px; -moz-border-radius-topleft:10px&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;amp;nbsp;talk&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]][[Special:Contributions/Hooper|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;background-color:black; color:white&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;amp;nbsp;contribs&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]][[Special:Emailuser/Hooper|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;background-color:black; color:white; -moz-border-radius-bottomright:10px; -moz-border-radius-topright:10px&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;amp;nbsp;email&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]]&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;&amp;lt;/small&amp;gt; 19:09, 25 August 2009 (MDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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::::::The obvious point of contention is that you say SGT and core are not the same; others would argue otherwise. I don't want to turn this discussion into that, but you say po-tay-to, I say po-tah-to. -- [[User:Jota|Jota]] 20:04, 25 August 2009 (MDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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:::::::Does anyone know where all the content on [http://dnd.wikia.com/wiki/Basics_and_Ability_Scores] went?  With the thought in mind of [http://dungeons.wikia.com/wiki/Main_Page] (permissions).  --[[User:Green Dragon|Green Dragon]] 20:44, 25 August 2009 (MDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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::::::::http://dnd.wikia.com/wiki/Special:Contributions/Maunderingcabal  [http://dnd.wikia.com/wiki/Quickling_Runner] [http://dnd.wikia.com/wiki/Guard_Drake] [http://dnd.wikia.com/wiki/Hobgoblin_Warcaster] [http://dnd.wikia.com/wiki/Corruption_Corpse] [http://dnd.wikia.com/wiki/Warforged_Battle_Champion], etc.  --[[User:Green Dragon|Green Dragon]] 20:49, 25 August 2009 (MDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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:::::::::What the hell is your point? How should any of us know where any of their stuff went? I've only looked at that wiki once in my lifetime. [[User:Surgo|Surgo]] 20:51, 25 August 2009 (MDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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::::::::::I'm not Wikia.  I do not know enough in this instance to make a correct judgement.  I am not positive why the content was removed; I am not Wikia.  One would have to look at IP's and permissions on Wikia's backend to get a better judgment.  Who knows; I am not Wikia.  --[[User:Green Dragon|Green Dragon]] 20:59, 25 August 2009 (MDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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:::::::::::I think this is a good example of GD's attitude. As he yells at, makes threats against, and harasses someone who has done nothing wrong, and with no proof to back it up, and instead just throws out random links incoherently. [[User:Dragon Child|Dragon Child]] 20:58, 25 August 2009 (MDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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:::::::::: @GD.  Dude your freakin me out?  Nobody here took their stuff.  That site must just be having problems.  Surgo would probably just base his new wiki off this one anyway.  He wouldn't model his new site of that wikia in a million years.  He would mimic this site and try to improve it, adding &amp;quot;Surgo Flavor&amp;quot; or something.  Nobody I know messed with that empty wikia.  Sorry.  --[[User:Jay Freedman|Jay Freedman]] 21:00, 25 August 2009 (MDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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:::::::::::That's right. You are not Wikia. That means you should not be throwing around wild-ass and incorrect accusations at me. [[User:Surgo|Surgo]] 21:04, 25 August 2009 (MDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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::::::::::::Seriously GD, what the heck are you on about? Given that a lot of us weren't even aware of that site's existence, how do you expect those pages to mean anything to anyone? -- [[User:Jota|Jota]] 21:04, 25 August 2009 (MDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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:::::::::::::Those links you provided don't even have any content missing, as far as I can tell. No other content was added to them besides the picture of the miniature. You're yelling at someone who did nothing over a &amp;quot;crime&amp;quot; that everyone can see doesn't even exist. Perhaps now it's time to call you stupid, and say it's justified, as some people are just stupid? [[User:Dragon Child|Dragon Child]] 21:05, 25 August 2009 (MDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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::What do you mean you have nothing to do with it? You STARTED this discussion, by falsely accusing, nay, OUTRIGHT LYING AND INSULTING SURGO! [[User:Dragon Child|Dragon Child]] 21:39, 25 August 2009 (MDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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:::I asked a question.  --[[User:Green Dragon|Green Dragon]] 21:41, 25 August 2009 (MDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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::::That's pretty funny, because I don't see a question mark in your post. [[User:Surgo|Surgo]] 21:49, 2 September 2009 (MDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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:You guys need to take this discussion (about Wikia's wiki's) onto Wikia's pages. I have nothing to do with it. --[[User:Green Dragon|Green Dragon]] 21:24, 25 August 2009 (MDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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:Perhaps if you feel it is infactual, you should tell me actual percentages of users that have left so it can have the utmost accuracy. After all, looking at your current and former &amp;quot;active users&amp;quot; list, I believe that what I said is entirely factual. So I think you are wrong. [[User:Surgo|Surgo]] 17:24, 3 September 2009 (MDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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::Seriously Hooper? I thought you were a bit more mature than that. --[[User:208.90.100.111|208.90.100.111]] 18:00, 3 September 2009 (MDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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:::I'm being mature, and requesting a not-factually correct statement to be amended by an individual who has proven to value factual statements.  You want the statistics?  Fair enough.  Users who can arguably be said to be officially gone from this wiki to your wiki and who aren't still active on both are  (and please let me know if I miss anyone):  You, TK, Aarnot, Danial Draco, Eiji, Sam Kay, Sabre, Rith, Summerscythe, and Val.  Combined, their edit contributions equal 23,315 edits.  Even if we assume one page count equals one page, that  isn't even half of our pages on the wiki (and that is giving these edits ALOT more credit). Since the timeframe of the split, yours has about roughly 30 active users.  Since the only stat I can provide is the last 500 edits on this wiki, and if we do not count any of the people from your wiki (since their edits were probably related to the split) we have 21 active users - that is less than two days.  If I had a method to show stats - we can follow the same obvious trend and up this number amazingly so. We've also had 128 new users since August 10th - roughly the time of the split give a day or two, of which 56 have been active - and even trimming that to &amp;quot;more active than user page activity&amp;quot; still leaves 27.  Did you take some active users?  Yes.  Some valuable users? Yes.  Most?  No.  Half?   No.  Once again, I appreciated and agreed with your comments during the SGT template discussions for factual accuracy, and I hold you to those standards. &amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;lt;small&amp;gt;&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;border: 1px solid black; -moz-border-radius:10px&amp;quot;&amp;gt;[[User:Hooper|'''&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;background-color:White; color:Black; -moz-border-radius-topleft:10px; -moz-border-radius-bottomleft:10px&amp;quot;&amp;gt;  Hooper  &amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;''']][[User talk:Hooper|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;background-color:Black; color:white; -moz-border-radius-bottomleft:10px; -moz-border-radius-topleft:10px&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;amp;nbsp;talk&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]][[Special:Contributions/Hooper|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;background-color:black; color:white&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;amp;nbsp;contribs&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]][[Special:Emailuser/Hooper|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;background-color:black; color:white; -moz-border-radius-bottomright:10px; -moz-border-radius-topright:10px&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;amp;nbsp;email&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]]&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;&amp;lt;/small&amp;gt; 19:54, 3 September 2009 (MDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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::::Key word is active, not some one-and-done IP addresses. I don't necessarily agree with Surgo's assertion, but I really don't see why Surgo's user page is an issue given anyone can look at the recent activity and judge for themselves. -- [[User:Jota|Jota]] 19:58, 3 September 2009 (MDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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:::::I did miss one person I believe.   Lord Dhazriel.  Even with his edits you still only have 27,889.  Out of '''391,805'''.  True that there is no possibly way to get verifiable stats for say, the last 6 month percentage, but it still isn't close to half. If you want to say &amp;quot;most of the tavern regulars&amp;quot; then you may have some factual truth behind that. &lt;br /&gt;
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::::::You've missed about 10 people in that list. Once again, just compare the former &amp;quot;active users&amp;quot; list to the current one. And never mind the total ridiculous nature of edit count, which means absolutely nothing. And add to that what Jota just said below me...active users, not one-and-done signups. No, I'm thinking my user page is perfectly factual here. Sorry if you're somehow getting some proxy butthurt for Green Dragon over the split or something. [[User:Surgo|Surgo]] 20:03, 3 September 2009 (MDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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::::::: It not about edits, I mean if you count one-time IP and '''bots''' as active users then yes, only a small part of the active userbase left. But they do not, at least to my knowledge, only a few dozen of users actively contributed to this wiki at all time. These were (or are) active users, most IP or registered users only make 1 or 2 edits before leaving the wiki forever. --[[User:Lord Dhazriel|Dhazriel]] 20:04, 3 September 2009 (MDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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:::::::::Perhaps you should learn the meaning of your statistics before you post them. All of those edits could be made by people who have since left years ago. Then a few people remain, and are active with a few hundred edits a piece. Then 3/4ths of them leave. Guess what? The majority of active users ''still left'', even if the people responsible for the majority of edits ''have not technically left with them''. If you're going to throw statistics around, you should at least demonstrate some basic understanding of them. [[User:Surgo|Surgo]] 20:12, 3 September 2009 (MDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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::::::::::Actually, I do understand them, and I provided the only verifiable stats I could - the last 500 counts for just a couple days - which nearly equal your site's number of active users since its inception.  I 'm not going to throw out a number that I can't verify - but using that formula and expanding it to the same time since your site started - we could easilly verify the last month's active users being more.  You must have overlooked that above. &amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;lt;small&amp;gt;&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;border: 1px solid black; -moz-border-radius:10px&amp;quot;&amp;gt;[[User:Hooper|'''&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;background-color:White; color:Black; -moz-border-radius-topleft:10px; -moz-border-radius-bottomleft:10px&amp;quot;&amp;gt;  Hooper  &amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;''']][[User talk:Hooper|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;background-color:Black; color:white; -moz-border-radius-bottomleft:10px; -moz-border-radius-topleft:10px&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;amp;nbsp;talk&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]][[Special:Contributions/Hooper|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;background-color:black; color:white&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;amp;nbsp;contribs&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]][[Special:Emailuser/Hooper|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;background-color:black; color:white; -moz-border-radius-bottomright:10px; -moz-border-radius-topright:10px&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;amp;nbsp;email&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]]&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;&amp;lt;/small&amp;gt; 20:15, 3 September 2009 (MDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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:::::::::::I overlooked nothing, but I thought it was so obvious that it didn't even need saying: how many of those edits are the nonsensical noise between you and Ghostwheel? And how many edits on my site are more than noise? See, reasons like this are why trying to compare penis size, err, edit count, is complete nonsense. [[User:Surgo|Surgo]] 20:20, 3 September 2009 (MDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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::::::::::: Hooper, just... just stop it, eh? As long as it's not offensive, Surgo can (I think?) have just about anything he wants on his user page. He could state the sky was purple. It's not factually true, but he can say whatever he wants. People who want to see for themselves will do a little research. People who don't care won't. But in the end, right now it just looks like you're being stubborn and obstinate for no real reason. --[[User:Ghostwheel|Ghostwheel]] 20:19, 3 September 2009 (MDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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:I was just holding Surgo to the high standard of being  factually correct that he asked of me not long ago, and I am being denied that requests.  That is all.   I'm not demanding it be changed, just asking it be corrected.   He has chosen not to, and  I'll leave it at that. &amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;lt;small&amp;gt;&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;border: 1px solid black; -moz-border-radius:10px&amp;quot;&amp;gt;[[User:Hooper|'''&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;background-color:White; color:Black; -moz-border-radius-topleft:10px; -moz-border-radius-bottomleft:10px&amp;quot;&amp;gt;  Hooper  &amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;''']][[User talk:Hooper|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;background-color:Black; color:white; -moz-border-radius-bottomleft:10px; -moz-border-radius-topleft:10px&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;amp;nbsp;talk&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]][[Special:Contributions/Hooper|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;background-color:black; color:white&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;amp;nbsp;contribs&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]][[Special:Emailuser/Hooper|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;background-color:black; color:white; -moz-border-radius-bottomright:10px; -moz-border-radius-topright:10px&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;amp;nbsp;email&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]]&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;&amp;lt;/small&amp;gt; 20:21, 3 September 2009 (MDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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::If your standard is statistics that don't mean anything, sure. Unfortunately, I'm still being factually correct and you're throwing some half-baked ideas at me that don't say what you're claiming they say. [[User:Surgo|Surgo]] 20:23, 3 September 2009 (MDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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:::No, you are trying to say I'm claiming they say something they don't.  All I did was provide you the only stats even close to relevant to the discussion that are available, and the overwhelming landslide that all those stats show demand a rational mind to acknowledge that they show the proper trend. However, there is no point in pursuing the subject. &amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;lt;small&amp;gt;&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;border: 1px solid black; -moz-border-radius:10px&amp;quot;&amp;gt;[[User:Hooper|'''&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;background-color:White; color:Black; -moz-border-radius-topleft:10px; -moz-border-radius-bottomleft:10px&amp;quot;&amp;gt;  Hooper  &amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;''']][[User talk:Hooper|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;background-color:Black; color:white; -moz-border-radius-bottomleft:10px; -moz-border-radius-topleft:10px&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;amp;nbsp;talk&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]][[Special:Contributions/Hooper|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;background-color:black; color:white&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;amp;nbsp;contribs&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]][[Special:Emailuser/Hooper|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;background-color:black; color:white; -moz-border-radius-bottomright:10px; -moz-border-radius-topright:10px&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;amp;nbsp;email&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]]&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;&amp;lt;/small&amp;gt; 20:26, 3 September 2009 (MDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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::::Did you just miss that whole part where I debunked these statistics above? Okay, whatever you say man. [[User:Surgo|Surgo]] 20:28, 3 September 2009 (MDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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:::::You didn't debunked them, only stated something I've already acknowledged: they aren't perfect.   However, can you provide any statistics to even half way back up your claim? &amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;lt;small&amp;gt;&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;border: 1px solid black; -moz-border-radius:10px&amp;quot;&amp;gt;[[User:Hooper|'''&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;background-color:White; color:Black; -moz-border-radius-topleft:10px; -moz-border-radius-bottomleft:10px&amp;quot;&amp;gt;  Hooper  &amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;''']][[User talk:Hooper|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;background-color:Black; color:white; -moz-border-radius-bottomleft:10px; -moz-border-radius-topleft:10px&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;amp;nbsp;talk&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]][[Special:Contributions/Hooper|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;background-color:black; color:white&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;amp;nbsp;contribs&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]][[Special:Emailuser/Hooper|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;background-color:black; color:white; -moz-border-radius-bottomright:10px; -moz-border-radius-topright:10px&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;amp;nbsp;email&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]]&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;&amp;lt;/small&amp;gt; 20:31, 3 September 2009 (MDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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::::::'''Statistics need to mean something in order to lend any weight!''' I'm not sure how many times I'm going to have to make this point. But I'm sure you're just going to ignore it and somehow claim these 20 or so edits on this page and all the deletions I recently performed are somehow indicative that I count as an active user of this wiki, or something. [[User:Surgo|Surgo]] 20:32, 3 September 2009 (MDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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:::::::Seriously Hooper, your statistics indicate absolutely nothing, and I'm not sure that there is a way to get statistics that will accurately indicate who is correct. The fact that you have provided any numbers does not place you in the position to ask or demand anything or Surgo when your numbers don't mean anything. -- [[User:Jota|Jota]] 20:34, 3 September 2009 (MDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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::::::::I've already agreed that there is no way to '''accurately''' show it, but these stats (especially the last 500 here vs. all there) show a trend.  By the way Jota, I'd like to take your quote here: ''The fact that you have provided any numbers does not place you in the position to ask or demand anything or Surgo when your numbers don't mean anything.&amp;quot;'' and apply that to you and Ghost on the build page.  Surgo, you can't provide any stats, and I can provide stats that show an overwhelming trend.  That is all.  Unless you're willing to attempt to or acknowledge that, which you won't, we can end this. &amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;lt;small&amp;gt;&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;border: 1px solid black; -moz-border-radius:10px&amp;quot;&amp;gt;[[User:Hooper|'''&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;background-color:White; color:Black; -moz-border-radius-topleft:10px; -moz-border-radius-bottomleft:10px&amp;quot;&amp;gt;  Hooper  &amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;''']][[User talk:Hooper|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;background-color:Black; color:white; -moz-border-radius-bottomleft:10px; -moz-border-radius-topleft:10px&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;amp;nbsp;talk&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]][[Special:Contributions/Hooper|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;background-color:black; color:white&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;amp;nbsp;contribs&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]][[Special:Emailuser/Hooper|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;background-color:black; color:white; -moz-border-radius-bottomright:10px; -moz-border-radius-topright:10px&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;amp;nbsp;email&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]]&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;&amp;lt;/small&amp;gt; 20:35, 3 September 2009 (MDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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:::::::::In the year of 2008, 55,170 1994 Honda Accords were stolen in the United States. There we go -- a statistic that is exactly as relevent as what you have been posting here. [[User:Surgo|Surgo]] 20:38, 3 September 2009 (MDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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:No, Hooper, your numbers mean less than nothing, and I gave numbers in the other thread, relevant numbers. You're doing the same thing here you did there: refusing to acknowledge information that proves contrary to your personal opinion because its suits you. -- [[User:Jota|Jota]] 20:40, 3 September 2009 (MDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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::@Hooper.  Wait a minute.  Your telling Surgo to change a few stupid words on his user page?  Are you a flippin' freakin' blanky' blank.  (I don't like cursing)  I want to ban you sooooo bad for picking this fight bro.  I love ya man.  But I ain't cool with this.  I ain't cool with this.  --[[User:Jay Freedman|Jay Freedman]] 20:40, 3 September 2009 (MDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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:::No, Jay.  It is his user page and if he wants to leave it like it is, that is fine.  I just know from past experience he likes people to be factually correct and was hoping that he would be the same way.  If not, then that is fine, I brought up the point and thats done.  &amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;lt;small&amp;gt;&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;border: 1px solid black; -moz-border-radius:10px&amp;quot;&amp;gt;[[User:Hooper|'''&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;background-color:White; color:Black; -moz-border-radius-topleft:10px; -moz-border-radius-bottomleft:10px&amp;quot;&amp;gt;  Hooper  &amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;''']][[User talk:Hooper|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;background-color:Black; color:white; -moz-border-radius-bottomleft:10px; -moz-border-radius-topleft:10px&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;amp;nbsp;talk&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]][[Special:Contributions/Hooper|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;background-color:black; color:white&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;amp;nbsp;contribs&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]][[Special:Emailuser/Hooper|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;background-color:black; color:white; -moz-border-radius-bottomright:10px; -moz-border-radius-topright:10px&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;amp;nbsp;email&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]]&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;&amp;lt;/small&amp;gt; 20:42, 3 September 2009 (MDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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::::And I am factually correct, of course. [[User:Surgo|Surgo]] 20:46, 3 September 2009 (MDT)&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
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== Protection for Tome Classes ==&lt;br /&gt;
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I wondered if you want to protect the tome-classes against IP edit. Maybe it would be better?--[[User:Lord Dhazriel|Lord Dhazriel]] 15:21, 27 January 2009 (MST)&lt;br /&gt;
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:I'd be very appreciative, and I'm sure Surgo would be, too. It'd cut back on the amount of edit undoing we'd have to do. What ''is'' it about lately? There's been a bunch of IPs changing random classes and races all over the Wiki... --[[User:Genowhirl|Genowhirl]] 10:15, 28 January 2009 (MST)&lt;br /&gt;
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== For Your Consideration ==&lt;br /&gt;
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I've noticed the ammount of people who have been giving the things made by Frank and K bad ratings before they understood the idea behind the class, and so, have made this template to try and help you guys out:&lt;br /&gt;
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{{Frank and K material}}&lt;br /&gt;
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Hope it helps (also, I officially hand over all rights to this template to you and Genowhirl, since I have no hand in any Frank and K material and don't really know what should or shouldn't go into this template). &amp;amp;rarr; [[User:Rithaniel|&amp;lt;span style=color:Gray; -moz-border-radius-topleft:25px; -moz-border-radius-bottomleft:20px&amp;quot;&amp;gt;Rith&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]]&amp;lt;sup&amp;gt; [[User talk:Rithaniel|&amp;lt;span style=color:black; -moz-border-radius-bottomleft:20px; -moz-border-radius-topleft:20px&amp;quot;&amp;gt;(talk)&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]]&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; 21:45, 14 March 2009 (MDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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:Lol, that is awesome. Thanks dude. [[User:Surgo|Surgo]] 22:00, 14 March 2009 (MDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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::Heh, it's no problem man, just glad I could help. ''':)''' &amp;amp;rarr; [[User:Rithaniel|&amp;lt;span style=color:Gray; -moz-border-radius-topleft:25px; -moz-border-radius-bottomleft:20px&amp;quot;&amp;gt;Rith&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]]&amp;lt;sup&amp;gt; [[User talk:Rithaniel|&amp;lt;span style=color:black; -moz-border-radius-bottomleft:20px; -moz-border-radius-topleft:20px&amp;quot;&amp;gt;(talk)&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]]&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; 01:59, 15 March 2009 (MDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Comment ==&lt;br /&gt;
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Thanks for taking the time to spotlight me in the Tavern. In light of many of the recent discussions going on around the site, I'd much appreciate a more friendly personal approach.  If you don't agree with something I state, that is fine, but please refrain from attacking mine, or anyone elses, intelligence.  Thank you in advance for your cooperation. &amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;lt;small&amp;gt;&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;border: 1px solid blue; -moz-border-radius:10px&amp;quot;&amp;gt;[[User:Hooper|'''&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;background-color:White; color:FireBrick; -moz-border-radius-topleft:10px; -moz-border-radius-bottomleft:10px&amp;quot;&amp;gt;  Hooper  &amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;''']][[User talk:Hooper|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;background-color:red; color:blue; -moz-border-radius-bottomleft:10px; -moz-border-radius-topleft:10px&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;amp;nbsp;talk&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]][[Special:Contributions/Hooper|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;background-color:red; color:blue&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;amp;nbsp;contribs&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]][[Special:Emailuser/Hooper|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;background-color:red; color:blue; -moz-border-radius-bottomright:10px; -moz-border-radius-topright:10px&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;amp;nbsp;email&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]]&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;&amp;lt;/small&amp;gt; 01:18, 15 March 2009 (MDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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:What? Where was I attacking your intelligence? I remember saying you were impervious to logic, for the reason of [[Talk:Incompetent (DnD Flaw)]], which is not the same thing as attacking your intelligence. [[User:Surgo|Surgo]] 01:27, 15 March 2009 (MDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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::Being impervious to logic means one is unaffected or unable to be affected by logic.  This brings up the question of &amp;quot;if one is rude in The Tavern should it count as the same as being rude while editing?&amp;quot;  If so it would almost be as if everyone who uses the tavern would get an instant permanent ban.  Huh.  Personally I say no - when Tavern Admins come around they should just use their own judgement.  And before that time keep it like it is - The Tavern has no effect on the wiki.  --[[User:Green Dragon|Green Dragon]] 09:32, 15 March 2009 (MDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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I don't know what people really wanted for Alchemical Potions so i just made this shinanigan for the peeps. you can make it the way you think it should be. --[[User:D.M.DemonicPanda|D.M.DemonicPanda]] 21:57, 3 April 2009&lt;br /&gt;
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== Apology ==&lt;br /&gt;
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Hey, me again. I just wanted to apologize for calling you a power gamer, in case you didn't see the apology on the [[Talk:Incompetent (DnD Flaw)]] page. I can get quite stubborn sometimes. Sorry!--[[User:Fathirian Hound|Fathirian Hound]] 09:15, 20 March 2009 (MDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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:Don't worry about it, dude. [[User:Surgo|Surgo]] 22:26, 20 March 2009 (MDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Barnstar ==&lt;br /&gt;
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{{Barnstar|Thanks for nominating the [[DnD Flaws|flaws]] with purely roleplaying benefits for deletion, and nominating the unusable [[3.5e Quests|quests]] for deletion.  Thanks for helping out with a little spring cleaning.  --[[User:Green Dragon|Green Dragon]] 04:03, 22 March 2009 (MDT)}}&lt;br /&gt;
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== Adminship ==&lt;br /&gt;
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Welcome to Adminship.  You are now part of &amp;quot;The Face&amp;quot; of D&amp;amp;D Wiki.  Honestly, as you will notice, not much has been changed now that you are an admin.  If anything, I would say more burden is placed on you.  But first, for the the new features and their uses.  You can now delete pages, protect pages, rollback edits, block users and IP's, edit every page, patrol edits, and do a couple more minor things.&lt;br /&gt;
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;What it is:&lt;br /&gt;
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*What deleting pages is, is self explanatory.&lt;br /&gt;
*What protecting pages is, is also pretty self explanatory.&lt;br /&gt;
*Rolling back edits is a method for removing spam.  It is more powerful than the conventional method of undoing edits.  Instead of showing a diff of the edit in question once clicked, it instantly rollsback all the edits by the user or IP in question on a certain page.  For example if I edited my user page and you clicked &amp;quot;rollback&amp;quot; on that edit it would rollback all the edits up to the point where someone else has edited it.  Be careful using this, it can be very helpful but also very harmful.&lt;br /&gt;
*What blocking users and IP's is, is also self explanatory.&lt;br /&gt;
*Editing every page is another self explanatory one.&lt;br /&gt;
*Patrolling edits is a method for keeping [[Special:Recentchanges|RC]] in check, it can be seen once a diff is clicked.  All it does is, once &amp;quot;Mark as Patrolled Edits&amp;quot; is clicked, it marks the edits as patrolled so the edit will no longer show up on [[Special:Recentchanges|RC]] when &amp;quot;Hide Patrolled&amp;quot; is marked.&lt;br /&gt;
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;When or how it should be used&lt;br /&gt;
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*Deleting pages is done through [[:Category:Candidates for Deletion]].&lt;br /&gt;
*Protecting pages has quite a few different times when it should be used.  Pages should be protected according to the author's wishes (with [[Template:Locked Page]] added to the top of the page in question), in case of conflict  (with [[Template:Temp Locked Page]] added to the top of the page in question), in case of [[Help:FAQ#What are OGL, OGC, SRD, and GNU FPL?|OGC]] published materials (with [[Template:OGL Top]] added to the top of the page in question  and [[Template:OGL Bottom]] added to the bottom), or finally if the page is a vital part of D&amp;amp;D Wiki's infrastructure.  If it deals with D&amp;amp;D Wiki's infrastructure it either needs to be be protected from IP edits or all non-sysop edits.  As a rule of thumb pages up to two tiers deep from the [[Main Page]] are normally locked to anyone but sysops and all the others are just protected from IP edits.  For Example [[Dungeons and Dragons]] is protected from all non-sysop edits whereas a deeper in page like [[LA 0 Races]] is only protected from IP edits.  No template has to be added to pages if thay are part of D&amp;amp;D Wiki's organization (even though some do exist like [[Template:Admin Locked Page]])&lt;br /&gt;
*Blocking a user or IP should only be used after an IP or user vandalizes a certain page.  To block someone just click &amp;quot;block&amp;quot; (found either on [[Special:Recentchanges|RC]] or the diff in question) and fill out the corresponding form.  For a typical vandalism attack I normally block the user for two weeks.&lt;br /&gt;
*Editing every page on D&amp;amp;D Wiki mostly means you can now edit the [[SRD:System Reference Document|SRD]] and the [[MSRD:Modern System Reference Document|MSRD]].  Feel free to edit them if you find inaccuracies, and please feel free to help out with [[SRD Talk:System Reference Document#SRD ToDo List]] or [[MSRD Talk:Modern System Reference Document#Tasks]].&lt;br /&gt;
*Patrolling edits should be used when you have looked over an edit and fixed everything that needs to be fixed.   (this includes answering questions, sending MoI's, etc).&lt;br /&gt;
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You have more burden on yourself now that you are an admin because users will be looking at you for editing help, knowledge of D&amp;amp;D, editing guidelines, the standards, etc etc.  It's a bit more work, but I really hope you enjoy being an admin.  --[[User:Green Dragon|Green Dragon]] 13:12, 5 April 2009 (MDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Re: Thank You ==&lt;br /&gt;
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Why you're very welcome, I think I'll enjoy it when the job's done, yes...&lt;br /&gt;
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== AdminBadge ==&lt;br /&gt;
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I'd like to label you as an admin with the &amp;lt;s&amp;gt;&amp;lt;nowiki&amp;gt;[[Template:AdminBadge]]&amp;lt;/nowiki&amp;gt;&amp;lt;/s&amp;gt; on your user page. If you have a reason you don't think you should have the badge or you don't think the badge is a good idea, please discuss it on the badge's [[Template talk:AdminBadge|discussion]]. -[[User:Valentine the Rogue|Valentine the Rogue]] 16:08, 11 April 2009 (MDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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:I'm not going to put it on my page, because I don't want people to treat me differently because I'm an admin. [[User:Surgo|Surgo]] 17:10, 15 April 2009 (MDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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==Adminship==&lt;br /&gt;
Due to my recent illness and moving I've been on very sporadically and as such was not able to comment on your RfA.  However, if I had been able to I would of thrown down a support.  You've done some great things and I especially enjoy the future of your bots. &amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;lt;small&amp;gt;&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;border: 1px solid blue; -moz-border-radius:10px&amp;quot;&amp;gt;[[User:Hooper|'''&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;background-color:White; color:FireBrick; -moz-border-radius-topleft:10px; -moz-border-radius-bottomleft:10px&amp;quot;&amp;gt;  Hooper  &amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;''']][[User talk:Hooper|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;background-color:red; color:blue; -moz-border-radius-bottomleft:10px; -moz-border-radius-topleft:10px&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;amp;nbsp;talk&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]][[Special:Contributions/Hooper|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;background-color:red; color:blue&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;amp;nbsp;contribs&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]][[Special:Emailuser/Hooper|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;background-color:red; color:blue; -moz-border-radius-bottomright:10px; -moz-border-radius-topright:10px&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;amp;nbsp;email&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]]&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;&amp;lt;/small&amp;gt; 10:29, 12 April 2009 (MDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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:Thanks! [[User:Surgo|Surgo]] 17:10, 15 April 2009 (MDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Bot ==&lt;br /&gt;
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From a proper programmer's point of view, the script needs work. From a workhorse point of view, the thing it damned reliable. I usually change the purpose to PRINT to check my work, then run the script as WRITE to save the changes. --[[User:Dmilewski|Dmilewski]] 04:23, 23 April 2009 (MDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Deletion ==&lt;br /&gt;
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On May 12, you deleted two of my classes (Battle Mage and Ulfsark), with the reason for deletion being &amp;quot;Not enough information to be played.  However, both classes were as complete or more complete than any of the SRD classes.[[User:Zyxw59|Zyxw59]] 15:12, 6 July 2009 (MDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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:Don't take my word for it, here they are, temporarily restored: [[Ulfsark (DnD Class)]] and [[Battle Mage (DnD Class)]]. Carry on. --[[User:Ganteka|Ganteka]] 15:27, 6 July 2009 (MDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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::Battle Mage: the mechanics of the blast are never outlined. Ulfsark: There's not enough information to actually ''use'' homeland defense (I'm not sure when it should actually be applied -- something I can't say for any of the SRD classes, which I know exactly how they work). Both classes still have the problem that they're way too weak, though. [[User:Surgo|Surgo]] 22:08, 6 July 2009 (MDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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:::Thanks for the explanation, I will add a description to them.  {{Unsigned|Zyxw59|09:55, 9 July 2009 (MDT)}}&lt;br /&gt;
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::::'''It is still not workable'''. A ranged touch attack, by itself, doesn't tell you its range, among other things. What you NEED to do is go through the pages, pretend you know NOTHING about the classes and you didn't make them, and ''see if there are enough rules written there to '''actually use them'''''. Homeland defense is '''still''' retarded, because at any given point in time a member of my clan somewhere in the world might be attacked and ''how on earth does that work''? Seriously, these are nowhere near SRD level. [[User:Surgo|Surgo]] 14:09, 9 July 2009 (MDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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:::::We have standards on D&amp;amp;D Wiki.  These do not meet them in terms of being usable or not.  As such they got deleted.  If you can fix them in time the deletion is up they will not be deleted.  If not they will be deleted.  --[[User:Green Dragon|Green Dragon]] 17:51, 9 July 2009 (MDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Barnstar the Second ==&lt;br /&gt;
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{{Barnstar|Thanks for making a bot to update all of the breadcrumbs for spells. That saves a lot of manual adjustment (and potential errors caused by manual edits). --[[User:Aarnott|Aarnott]] 22:30, 3 August 2009 (MDT)}}&lt;br /&gt;
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== Gone ==&lt;br /&gt;
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I, along with most of my friends here, have left this wiki due to apparently unresolvable conflict with the administrator to make our own wiki. If you ever need to contact me for some reason, you can email (morgon Dot kanter At gmail Dot com). [[User:Surgo|Surgo]] 08:51, 19 August 2009 (MDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Wikia ==&lt;br /&gt;
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Please do not tell me you deleted wikia's D&amp;amp;D install!  Everyone liked that site as well!  If someone gave you root access to wikia and you deleted their D&amp;amp;D site the whole internet world is going to get '''very''' fucking annoyed with you.&lt;br /&gt;
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Please no.  [http://www.google.com/search?q=wikia+Dungeons+and+Dragons&amp;amp;ie=utf-8&amp;amp;oe=utf-8&amp;amp;aq=t&amp;amp;rls=com.ubuntu:en-US:unofficial&amp;amp;client=firefox-a search criteria].  --[[User:Green Dragon|Green Dragon]] 12:39, 25 August 2009 (MDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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:I cannot find any of the content that was on wikia's dungeons and dragons website anymore.  If you deleted peoples content without any form of permission on wikia because of wrongly given root access the entire internet world will hate you.  All I could find was an archived history of wikia's dungeons and dragons information - [http://www.wikiindex.org/Dungeons_and_Dragons_Wikia].  Other then that I think you may have just shredded wikia's dungeons and dragons section and could be the '''stupidest''' person I have '''ever''' seen or heard from.&lt;br /&gt;
:'''Wikia:''' http://dnd.wikia.com/wiki/Main_Page&lt;br /&gt;
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:I don't think you understand that people ''worked'' on their content their, the rules were '''different''' their, etc.  --[[User:Green Dragon|Green Dragon]] 13:00, 25 August 2009 (MDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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::I hope you backed it up before you started working their.  I hope you did not shred it.  --[[User:Green Dragon|Green Dragon]] 13:07, 25 August 2009 (MDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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::: Ummm... GD, that's not even their &amp;quot;new&amp;quot; wiki. I don't think Surgo or anyone else from this site has anything to do with that. --[[User:Ghostwheel|Ghostwheel]] 13:09, 25 August 2009 (MDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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:::: I don't get it?  What happened to the DnD wikia?  --[[User:Jay Freedman|Jay Freedman]] 13:11, 25 August 2009 (MDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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{{quote|[[Meta Pages#Policies]]; swearing is a violation of our policies.|[[User:Green Dragon|Green Dragon]]|orig=[[User_talk:Green_Dragon/Archive_15#Harassment|Green Dragon Talk, Archive 15, Subsection &amp;quot;Harassment&amp;quot;]]}}&lt;br /&gt;
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{{quote|[[w:Wikipedia:Civility#Engaging in incivility]]. However you are right, you both deserve a warning.|[[User:Green Dragon|Green Dragon]]|orig=[[User_talk:Green_Dragon/Archive_15#Harassment|Green Dragon Talk, Archive 15, Subsection &amp;quot;Harassment&amp;quot;]]}}&lt;br /&gt;
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Should fall under those options.|[[User:Green Dragon|Green Dragon]]|orig=[[User_talk:Green_Dragon/Archive_15#Harassment|Green Dragon Talk, Archive 15, Subsection &amp;quot;Harassment&amp;quot;]]}}&lt;br /&gt;
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:::::: Acting as a People's Repesentitive of Law and Order (as laid down by bureaucrat [[User:Green Dragon|Green Dragon]]), I, hereby, warn you, [[User:Green Dragon|Green Dragon]], for your conduct in this section of [[User:Surgo|Surgo]]'s talk page. Let it be known that none think themselves above the rules of site, otherwise it descends into anarchy or worse; despotism! I am sure you will receive this warning with the grace and style you have so accustomed to yourself in your previous actions.&lt;br /&gt;
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:::::: Thank you for your co-operation. --[[User:TK-Squared|TK-Squared]] 13:31, 25 August 2009 (MDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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:::::::TK, good to see you!  Could you place the same warning on GD's talk page for Jota's cursing too please?  Thanks! &amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;lt;small&amp;gt;&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;border: 1px solid black; -moz-border-radius:10px&amp;quot;&amp;gt;[[User:Hooper|'''&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;background-color:White; color:Black; -moz-border-radius-topleft:10px; -moz-border-radius-bottomleft:10px&amp;quot;&amp;gt;  Hooper  &amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;''']][[User talk:Hooper|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;background-color:Black; color:white; -moz-border-radius-bottomleft:10px; -moz-border-radius-topleft:10px&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;amp;nbsp;talk&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]][[Special:Contributions/Hooper|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;background-color:black; color:white&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;amp;nbsp;contribs&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]][[Special:Emailuser/Hooper|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;background-color:black; color:white; -moz-border-radius-bottomright:10px; -moz-border-radius-topright:10px&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;amp;nbsp;email&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]]&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;&amp;lt;/small&amp;gt; 13:33, 25 August 2009 (MDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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:::::::: (Sigh) This warning should go over real well... (Patiently awaiting the public executions to come.)  Haha. Jk.  What up TK!  We love you man.  --[[User:Jay Freedman|Jay Freedman]] 13:56, 25 August 2009 (MDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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:::::::::Their are stupid people in the world...  That's not name calling &amp;amp;mdash; it's brutal honesty.  And [[User:TK-Squared|TK-Squared]] you have zero authority here; do not act like you do.  Also I am pretty positive you deleted the old wikia's D&amp;amp;D wiki.  I have no idea what wikia was thinking to let you have root access to their servers.  I am calling them dumb people as well.  You ruined a wiki in about 10 minutes and you have no regret?  Everyone liked that site as well and all you people can do is bitch at me about it?  Don't just sit around bitching to me about yur petty problems - get back the damn website.  I have had people unrestore shift-deleted things before.  If you did not shred it there is still a chance you can get it back.  Do something!  Don't just mope and gripe to me about your petty authority problems; fix your mistakes.  --[[User:Green Dragon|Green Dragon]] 16:20, 25 August 2009 (MDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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:::::::::: lol wut --[[User:TK-Squared|TK-Squared]] 16:45, 25 August 2009 (MDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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::::::::::: Green Dragon, what are you even talking about? NOBODY here had anything to do with that wiki at all! [[User:Dragon Child|Dragon Child]] 16:46, 25 August 2009 (MDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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:'''What the hell'''? Listen Green Dragon, you fucking moron. While I'd normally be honored to be so vilified by the likes of you, this is just retarded. The last time anyone did anything on that other wiki was in 2007. If you think I somehow &amp;quot;deleted&amp;quot; their wiki (as if that's even possible on wikia), that makes you even dumber than I had originally given you credit for. (And yes, I did think about adopting that one in like with the wikia policy. I decided against it, and instead started my own wiki. Which in one day surpassed their article count by about five-fold.) I have no idea how you even got this stupid idea. [[User:Surgo|Surgo]] 16:58, 25 August 2009 (MDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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::I don't think we should concern ourselves with the two wikis.  Surgo's wiki states on it's main page that it is for Same Game Test material mostly, which will draw a certain demographic.  Ours will draw a different demographic (the material on our site dedicated to SGT and op material is a small percentage, and I'm sure theres will have a small percentage of more core stuff = not enough for either &amp;quot;side&amp;quot; to worry about the other).  If people on one side or the other don't feel like they can help both, then just leave it be.  Everyone is just going to make themselves more upset as they argue. &amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;lt;small&amp;gt;&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;border: 1px solid black; -moz-border-radius:10px&amp;quot;&amp;gt;[[User:Hooper|'''&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;background-color:White; color:Black; -moz-border-radius-topleft:10px; -moz-border-radius-bottomleft:10px&amp;quot;&amp;gt;  Hooper  &amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;''']][[User talk:Hooper|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;background-color:Black; color:white; -moz-border-radius-bottomleft:10px; -moz-border-radius-topleft:10px&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;amp;nbsp;talk&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]][[Special:Contributions/Hooper|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;background-color:black; color:white&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;amp;nbsp;contribs&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]][[Special:Emailuser/Hooper|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;background-color:black; color:white; -moz-border-radius-bottomright:10px; -moz-border-radius-topright:10px&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;amp;nbsp;email&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]]&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;&amp;lt;/small&amp;gt; 18:37, 25 August 2009 (MDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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::: Good advice Hooper.  Of course, a wise sage once said &amp;quot;He who mediates between lions lives short life.&amp;quot;  So while we would like not to worry about wiki wars... (Thats a cool name. Wiki Wars! I love that! Haha! I am so stupid.) ...this will probably continue for some time.  --[[User:Jay Freedman|Jay Freedman]] 18:47, 25 August 2009 (MDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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:::: Hooper, I'm not sure why you insist on misrepresenting me. My wiki does not say that it is mostly for Same Game Test material...at all. It says it's for all material, and anything that doesn't define a balance point is assumed to be Same Game test. I don't know how it can be any more clear than that (which is what it actually says on the front page). Hooper, the only reason I am even posting here is because Green Dragon made some boneheaded accusation he pulled out of his ass. This has nothing to do with &amp;quot;wiki wars&amp;quot; or whatever (unless this is Green Dragon's weird idea of a 'war' or something). [[User:Surgo|Surgo]] 19:04, 25 August 2009 (MDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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:::::Ah, well if something is &amp;quot;assumed to be SGT&amp;quot; instead of assuming it is &amp;quot;core&amp;quot; ''(for lack of a better word)'', I would say that it is just fostering the above kind of thoughts.  People who support the SGT mind frame will be more prone to follow it is all. As I said above, both wikis will have some of each. &amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;lt;small&amp;gt;&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;border: 1px solid black; -moz-border-radius:10px&amp;quot;&amp;gt;[[User:Hooper|'''&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;background-color:White; color:Black; -moz-border-radius-topleft:10px; -moz-border-radius-bottomleft:10px&amp;quot;&amp;gt;  Hooper  &amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;''']][[User talk:Hooper|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;background-color:Black; color:white; -moz-border-radius-bottomleft:10px; -moz-border-radius-topleft:10px&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;amp;nbsp;talk&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]][[Special:Contributions/Hooper|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;background-color:black; color:white&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;amp;nbsp;contribs&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]][[Special:Emailuser/Hooper|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;background-color:black; color:white; -moz-border-radius-bottomright:10px; -moz-border-radius-topright:10px&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;amp;nbsp;email&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]]&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;&amp;lt;/small&amp;gt; 19:09, 25 August 2009 (MDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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::::::The obvious point of contention is that you say SGT and core are not the same; others would argue otherwise. I don't want to turn this discussion into that, but you say po-tay-to, I say po-tah-to. -- [[User:Jota|Jota]] 20:04, 25 August 2009 (MDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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:::::::Does anyone know where all the content on [http://dnd.wikia.com/wiki/Basics_and_Ability_Scores] went?  With the thought in mind of [http://dungeons.wikia.com/wiki/Main_Page] (permissions).  --[[User:Green Dragon|Green Dragon]] 20:44, 25 August 2009 (MDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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::::::::http://dnd.wikia.com/wiki/Special:Contributions/Maunderingcabal  [http://dnd.wikia.com/wiki/Quickling_Runner] [http://dnd.wikia.com/wiki/Guard_Drake] [http://dnd.wikia.com/wiki/Hobgoblin_Warcaster] [http://dnd.wikia.com/wiki/Corruption_Corpse] [http://dnd.wikia.com/wiki/Warforged_Battle_Champion], etc.  --[[User:Green Dragon|Green Dragon]] 20:49, 25 August 2009 (MDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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:::::::::What the hell is your point? How should any of us know where any of their stuff went? I've only looked at that wiki once in my lifetime. [[User:Surgo|Surgo]] 20:51, 25 August 2009 (MDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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::::::::::I'm not Wikia.  I do not know enough in this instance to make a correct judgement.  I am not positive why the content was removed; I am not Wikia.  One would have to look at IP's and permissions on Wikia's backend to get a better judgment.  Who knows; I am not Wikia.  --[[User:Green Dragon|Green Dragon]] 20:59, 25 August 2009 (MDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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:::::::::::I think this is a good example of GD's attitude. As he yells at, makes threats against, and harasses someone who has done nothing wrong, and with no proof to back it up, and instead just throws out random links incoherently. [[User:Dragon Child|Dragon Child]] 20:58, 25 August 2009 (MDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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:::::::::: @GD.  Dude your freakin me out?  Nobody here took their stuff.  That site must just be having problems.  Surgo would probably just base his new wiki off this one anyway.  He wouldn't model his new site of that wikia in a million years.  He would mimic this site and try to improve it, adding &amp;quot;Surgo Flavor&amp;quot; or something.  Nobody I know messed with that empty wikia.  Sorry.  --[[User:Jay Freedman|Jay Freedman]] 21:00, 25 August 2009 (MDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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:::::::::::That's right. You are not Wikia. That means you should not be throwing around wild-ass and incorrect accusations at me. [[User:Surgo|Surgo]] 21:04, 25 August 2009 (MDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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::::::::::::Seriously GD, what the heck are you on about? Given that a lot of us weren't even aware of that site's existence, how do you expect those pages to mean anything to anyone? -- [[User:Jota|Jota]] 21:04, 25 August 2009 (MDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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:::::::::::::Those links you provided don't even have any content missing, as far as I can tell. No other content was added to them besides the picture of the miniature. You're yelling at someone who did nothing over a &amp;quot;crime&amp;quot; that everyone can see doesn't even exist. Perhaps now it's time to call you stupid, and say it's justified, as some people are just stupid? [[User:Dragon Child|Dragon Child]] 21:05, 25 August 2009 (MDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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::What do you mean you have nothing to do with it? You STARTED this discussion, by falsely accusing, nay, OUTRIGHT LYING AND INSULTING SURGO! [[User:Dragon Child|Dragon Child]] 21:39, 25 August 2009 (MDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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:::I asked a question.  --[[User:Green Dragon|Green Dragon]] 21:41, 25 August 2009 (MDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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::::That's pretty funny, because I don't see a question mark in your post. [[User:Surgo|Surgo]] 21:49, 2 September 2009 (MDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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:You guys need to take this discussion (about Wikia's wiki's) onto Wikia's pages. I have nothing to do with it. --[[User:Green Dragon|Green Dragon]] 21:24, 25 August 2009 (MDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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Recently in our discussions on the possibility of having templates on SGT material, you routinely stated that you believe things should state facts.  I agree.  Completely.  I believe your current user page misrepresents the amount of users who left, and should be altered to be more factually correct ''(i.e. &amp;quot;left with some&amp;quot; instead of the incorrect &amp;quot;most&amp;quot;)''. &amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;lt;small&amp;gt;&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;border: 1px solid black; -moz-border-radius:10px&amp;quot;&amp;gt;[[User:Hooper|'''&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;background-color:White; color:Black; -moz-border-radius-topleft:10px; -moz-border-radius-bottomleft:10px&amp;quot;&amp;gt;  Hooper  &amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;''']][[User talk:Hooper|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;background-color:Black; color:white; -moz-border-radius-bottomleft:10px; -moz-border-radius-topleft:10px&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;amp;nbsp;talk&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]][[Special:Contributions/Hooper|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;background-color:black; color:white&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;amp;nbsp;contribs&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]][[Special:Emailuser/Hooper|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;background-color:black; color:white; -moz-border-radius-bottomright:10px; -moz-border-radius-topright:10px&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;amp;nbsp;email&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]]&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;&amp;lt;/small&amp;gt; 14:59, 3 September 2009 (MDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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:Perhaps if you feel it is infactual, you should tell me actual percentages of users that have left so it can have the utmost accuracy. After all, looking at your current and former &amp;quot;active users&amp;quot; list, I believe that what I said is entirely factual. So I think you are wrong. [[User:Surgo|Surgo]] 17:24, 3 September 2009 (MDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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::Seriously Hooper? I thought you were a bit more mature than that. --[[User:208.90.100.111|208.90.100.111]] 18:00, 3 September 2009 (MDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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:::I'm being mature, and requesting a not-factually correct statement to be amended by an individual who has proven to value factual statements.  You want the statistics?  Fair enough.  Users who can arguably be said to be officially gone from this wiki to your wiki and who aren't still active on both are  (and please let me know if I miss anyone):  You, TK, Aarnot, Danial Draco, Eiji, Sam Kay, Sabre, Rith, Summerscythe, and Val.  Combined, their edit contributions equal 23,315 edits.  Even if we assume one page count equals one page, that  isn't even half of our pages on the wiki (and that is giving these edits ALOT more credit). Since the timeframe of the split, yours has about roughly 30 active users.  Since the only stat I can provide is the last 500 edits on this wiki, and if we do not count any of the people from your wiki (since their edits were probably related to the split) we have 21 active users - that is less than two days.  If I had a method to show stats - we can follow the same obvious trend and up this number amazingly so. We've also had 128 new users since August 10th - roughly the time of the split give a day or two, of which 56 have been active - and even trimming that to &amp;quot;more active than user page activity&amp;quot; still leaves 27.  Did you take some active users?  Yes.  Some valuable users? Yes.  Most?  No.  Half?   No.  Once again, I appreciated and agreed with your comments during the SGT template discussions for factual accuracy, and I hold you to those standards. &amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;lt;small&amp;gt;&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;border: 1px solid black; -moz-border-radius:10px&amp;quot;&amp;gt;[[User:Hooper|'''&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;background-color:White; color:Black; -moz-border-radius-topleft:10px; -moz-border-radius-bottomleft:10px&amp;quot;&amp;gt;  Hooper  &amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;''']][[User talk:Hooper|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;background-color:Black; color:white; -moz-border-radius-bottomleft:10px; -moz-border-radius-topleft:10px&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;amp;nbsp;talk&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]][[Special:Contributions/Hooper|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;background-color:black; color:white&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;amp;nbsp;contribs&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]][[Special:Emailuser/Hooper|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;background-color:black; color:white; -moz-border-radius-bottomright:10px; -moz-border-radius-topright:10px&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;amp;nbsp;email&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]]&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;&amp;lt;/small&amp;gt; 19:54, 3 September 2009 (MDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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::::Key word is active, not some one-and-done IP addresses. I don't necessarily agree with Surgo's assertion, but I really don't see why Surgo's user page is an issue given anyone can look at the recent activity and judge for themselves. -- [[User:Jota|Jota]] 19:58, 3 September 2009 (MDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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:::::I did miss one person I believe.   Lord Dhazriel.  Even with his edits you still only have 27,889.  Out of '''391,805'''.  True that there is no possibly way to get verifiable stats for say, the last 6 month percentage, but it still isn't close to half. If you want to say &amp;quot;most of the tavern regulars&amp;quot; then you may have some factual truth behind that. &lt;br /&gt;
:::::@Jota, that isn't counting IP addresses at all, actually.  It is an issue because he is a strong proponent (and rightfully so) of factual correctness. &amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;lt;small&amp;gt;&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;border: 1px solid black; -moz-border-radius:10px&amp;quot;&amp;gt;[[User:Hooper|'''&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;background-color:White; color:Black; -moz-border-radius-topleft:10px; -moz-border-radius-bottomleft:10px&amp;quot;&amp;gt;  Hooper  &amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;''']][[User talk:Hooper|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;background-color:Black; color:white; -moz-border-radius-bottomleft:10px; -moz-border-radius-topleft:10px&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;amp;nbsp;talk&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]][[Special:Contributions/Hooper|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;background-color:black; color:white&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;amp;nbsp;contribs&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]][[Special:Emailuser/Hooper|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;background-color:black; color:white; -moz-border-radius-bottomright:10px; -moz-border-radius-topright:10px&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;amp;nbsp;email&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]]&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;&amp;lt;/small&amp;gt; 20:00, 3 September 2009 (MDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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::::::You've missed about 10 people in that list. Once again, just compare the former &amp;quot;active users&amp;quot; list to the current one. And never mind the total ridiculous nature of edit count, which means absolutely nothing. And add to that what Jota just said below me...active users, not one-and-done signups. No, I'm thinking my user page is perfectly factual here. Sorry if you're somehow getting some proxy butthurt for Green Dragon over the split or something. [[User:Surgo|Surgo]] 20:03, 3 September 2009 (MDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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::::::: It not about edits, I mean if you count one-time IP and '''bots''' as active users then yes, only a small part of the active userbase left. But they do not, at least to my knowledge, only a few dozen of users actively contributed to this wiki at all time. These were (or are) active users, most IP or registered users only make 1 or 2 edits before leaving the wiki forever. --[[User:Lord Dhazriel|Dhazriel]] 20:04, 3 September 2009 (MDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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::::::::The above counts do not count IPs, except for of course the 391,805 total edits ever to the wiki - no way for me to remove them from the stats page info.  My user list has never been even near full, and is not a reflection of the wiki has a whole.  I have provided stats to prove my point, and you refuse to acknowledge that.  I'll consider the discussion closed then.  The reason it was important is because your user page shows up on this wiki, and it is stating factual incorrectness as to the recruitment from here to your wiki, which looks bad on this wiki.  Good luck with yours, but you shouldn't misrepresent things associated with this one. &amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;lt;small&amp;gt;&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;border: 1px solid black; -moz-border-radius:10px&amp;quot;&amp;gt;[[User:Hooper|'''&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;background-color:White; color:Black; -moz-border-radius-topleft:10px; -moz-border-radius-bottomleft:10px&amp;quot;&amp;gt;  Hooper  &amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;''']][[User talk:Hooper|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;background-color:Black; color:white; -moz-border-radius-bottomleft:10px; -moz-border-radius-topleft:10px&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;amp;nbsp;talk&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]][[Special:Contributions/Hooper|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;background-color:black; color:white&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;amp;nbsp;contribs&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]][[Special:Emailuser/Hooper|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;background-color:black; color:white; -moz-border-radius-bottomright:10px; -moz-border-radius-topright:10px&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;amp;nbsp;email&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]]&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;&amp;lt;/small&amp;gt; 20:10, 3 September 2009 (MDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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:::::::::Perhaps you should learn the meaning of your statistics before you post them. All of those edits could be made by people who have since left years ago. Then a few people remain, and are active with a few hundred edits a piece. Then 3/4ths of them leave. Guess what? The majority of active users ''still left'', even if the people responsible for the majority of edits ''have not technically left with them''. If you're going to throw statistics around, you should at least demonstrate some basic understanding of them. [[User:Surgo|Surgo]] 20:12, 3 September 2009 (MDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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::::::::::Actually, I do understand them, and I provided the only verifiable stats I could - the last 500 counts for just a couple days - which nearly equal your site's number of active users since its inception.  I 'm not going to throw out a number that I can't verify - but using that formula and expanding it to the same time since your site started - we could easilly verify the last month's active users being more.  You must have overlooked that above. &amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;lt;small&amp;gt;&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;border: 1px solid black; -moz-border-radius:10px&amp;quot;&amp;gt;[[User:Hooper|'''&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;background-color:White; color:Black; -moz-border-radius-topleft:10px; -moz-border-radius-bottomleft:10px&amp;quot;&amp;gt;  Hooper  &amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;''']][[User talk:Hooper|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;background-color:Black; color:white; -moz-border-radius-bottomleft:10px; -moz-border-radius-topleft:10px&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;amp;nbsp;talk&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]][[Special:Contributions/Hooper|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;background-color:black; color:white&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;amp;nbsp;contribs&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]][[Special:Emailuser/Hooper|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;background-color:black; color:white; -moz-border-radius-bottomright:10px; -moz-border-radius-topright:10px&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;amp;nbsp;email&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]]&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;&amp;lt;/small&amp;gt; 20:15, 3 September 2009 (MDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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:::::::::::I overlooked nothing, but I thought it was so obvious that it didn't even need saying: how many of those edits are the nonsensical noise between you and Ghostwheel? And how many edits on my site are more than noise? See, reasons like this are why trying to compare penis size, err, edit count, is complete nonsense. [[User:Surgo|Surgo]] 20:20, 3 September 2009 (MDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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::::::::::: Hooper, just... just stop it, eh? As long as it's not offensive, Surgo can (I think?) have just about anything he wants on his user page. He could state the sky was purple. It's not factually true, but he can say whatever he wants. People who want to see for themselves will do a little research. People who don't care won't. But in the end, right now it just looks like you're being stubborn and obstinate for no real reason. --[[User:Ghostwheel|Ghostwheel]] 20:19, 3 September 2009 (MDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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:I was just holding Surgo to the high standard of being  factually correct that he asked of me not long ago, and I am being denied that requests.  That is all.   I'm not demanding it be changed, just asking it be corrected.   He has chosen not to, and  I'll leave it at that. &amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;lt;small&amp;gt;&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;border: 1px solid black; -moz-border-radius:10px&amp;quot;&amp;gt;[[User:Hooper|'''&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;background-color:White; color:Black; -moz-border-radius-topleft:10px; -moz-border-radius-bottomleft:10px&amp;quot;&amp;gt;  Hooper  &amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;''']][[User talk:Hooper|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;background-color:Black; color:white; -moz-border-radius-bottomleft:10px; -moz-border-radius-topleft:10px&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;amp;nbsp;talk&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]][[Special:Contributions/Hooper|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;background-color:black; color:white&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;amp;nbsp;contribs&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]][[Special:Emailuser/Hooper|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;background-color:black; color:white; -moz-border-radius-bottomright:10px; -moz-border-radius-topright:10px&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;amp;nbsp;email&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]]&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;&amp;lt;/small&amp;gt; 20:21, 3 September 2009 (MDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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::If your standard is statistics that don't mean anything, sure. Unfortunately, I'm still being factually correct and you're throwing some half-baked ideas at me that don't say what you're claiming they say. [[User:Surgo|Surgo]] 20:23, 3 September 2009 (MDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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:::No, you are trying to say I'm claiming they say something they don't.  All I did was provide you the only stats even close to relevant to the discussion that are available, and the overwhelming landslide that all those stats show demand a rational mind to acknowledge that they show the proper trend. However, there is no point in pursuing the subject. &amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;lt;small&amp;gt;&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;border: 1px solid black; -moz-border-radius:10px&amp;quot;&amp;gt;[[User:Hooper|'''&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;background-color:White; color:Black; -moz-border-radius-topleft:10px; -moz-border-radius-bottomleft:10px&amp;quot;&amp;gt;  Hooper  &amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;''']][[User talk:Hooper|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;background-color:Black; color:white; -moz-border-radius-bottomleft:10px; -moz-border-radius-topleft:10px&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;amp;nbsp;talk&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]][[Special:Contributions/Hooper|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;background-color:black; color:white&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;amp;nbsp;contribs&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]][[Special:Emailuser/Hooper|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;background-color:black; color:white; -moz-border-radius-bottomright:10px; -moz-border-radius-topright:10px&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;amp;nbsp;email&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]]&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;&amp;lt;/small&amp;gt; 20:26, 3 September 2009 (MDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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::::Did you just miss that whole part where I debunked these statistics above? Okay, whatever you say man. [[User:Surgo|Surgo]] 20:28, 3 September 2009 (MDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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:::::You didn't debunked them, only stated something I've already acknowledged: they aren't perfect.   However, can you provide any statistics to even half way back up your claim? &amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;lt;small&amp;gt;&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;border: 1px solid black; -moz-border-radius:10px&amp;quot;&amp;gt;[[User:Hooper|'''&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;background-color:White; color:Black; -moz-border-radius-topleft:10px; -moz-border-radius-bottomleft:10px&amp;quot;&amp;gt;  Hooper  &amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;''']][[User talk:Hooper|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;background-color:Black; color:white; -moz-border-radius-bottomleft:10px; -moz-border-radius-topleft:10px&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;amp;nbsp;talk&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]][[Special:Contributions/Hooper|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;background-color:black; color:white&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;amp;nbsp;contribs&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]][[Special:Emailuser/Hooper|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;background-color:black; color:white; -moz-border-radius-bottomright:10px; -moz-border-radius-topright:10px&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;amp;nbsp;email&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]]&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;&amp;lt;/small&amp;gt; 20:31, 3 September 2009 (MDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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::::::'''Statistics need to mean something in order to lend any weight!''' I'm not sure how many times I'm going to have to make this point. But I'm sure you're just going to ignore it and somehow claim these 20 or so edits on this page and all the deletions I recently performed are somehow indicative that I count as an active user of this wiki, or something. [[User:Surgo|Surgo]] 20:32, 3 September 2009 (MDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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:::::::Seriously Hooper, your statistics indicate absolutely nothing, and I'm not sure that there is a way to get statistics that will accurately indicate who is correct. The fact that you have provided any numbers does not place you in the position to ask or demand anything or Surgo when your numbers don't mean anything. -- [[User:Jota|Jota]] 20:34, 3 September 2009 (MDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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::::::::I've already agreed that there is no way to '''accurately''' show it, but these stats (especially the last 500 here vs. all there) show a trend.  By the way Jota, I'd like to take your quote here: ''The fact that you have provided any numbers does not place you in the position to ask or demand anything or Surgo when your numbers don't mean anything.&amp;quot;'' and apply that to you and Ghost on the build page.  Surgo, you can't provide any stats, and I can provide stats that show an overwhelming trend.  That is all.  Unless you're willing to attempt to or acknowledge that, which you won't, we can end this. &amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;lt;small&amp;gt;&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;border: 1px solid black; -moz-border-radius:10px&amp;quot;&amp;gt;[[User:Hooper|'''&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;background-color:White; color:Black; -moz-border-radius-topleft:10px; -moz-border-radius-bottomleft:10px&amp;quot;&amp;gt;  Hooper  &amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;''']][[User talk:Hooper|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;background-color:Black; color:white; -moz-border-radius-bottomleft:10px; -moz-border-radius-topleft:10px&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;amp;nbsp;talk&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]][[Special:Contributions/Hooper|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;background-color:black; color:white&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;amp;nbsp;contribs&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]][[Special:Emailuser/Hooper|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;background-color:black; color:white; -moz-border-radius-bottomright:10px; -moz-border-radius-topright:10px&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;amp;nbsp;email&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]]&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;&amp;lt;/small&amp;gt; 20:35, 3 September 2009 (MDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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:::::::::In the year of 2008, 55,170 1994 Honda Accords were stolen in the United States. There we go -- a statistic that is exactly as relevent as what you have been posting here. [[User:Surgo|Surgo]] 20:38, 3 September 2009 (MDT)&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
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== Protection for Tome Classes ==&lt;br /&gt;
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I wondered if you want to protect the tome-classes against IP edit. Maybe it would be better?--[[User:Lord Dhazriel|Lord Dhazriel]] 15:21, 27 January 2009 (MST)&lt;br /&gt;
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:I'd be very appreciative, and I'm sure Surgo would be, too. It'd cut back on the amount of edit undoing we'd have to do. What ''is'' it about lately? There's been a bunch of IPs changing random classes and races all over the Wiki... --[[User:Genowhirl|Genowhirl]] 10:15, 28 January 2009 (MST)&lt;br /&gt;
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== For Your Consideration ==&lt;br /&gt;
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I've noticed the ammount of people who have been giving the things made by Frank and K bad ratings before they understood the idea behind the class, and so, have made this template to try and help you guys out:&lt;br /&gt;
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{{Frank and K material}}&lt;br /&gt;
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Hope it helps (also, I officially hand over all rights to this template to you and Genowhirl, since I have no hand in any Frank and K material and don't really know what should or shouldn't go into this template). &amp;amp;rarr; [[User:Rithaniel|&amp;lt;span style=color:Gray; -moz-border-radius-topleft:25px; -moz-border-radius-bottomleft:20px&amp;quot;&amp;gt;Rith&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]]&amp;lt;sup&amp;gt; [[User talk:Rithaniel|&amp;lt;span style=color:black; -moz-border-radius-bottomleft:20px; -moz-border-radius-topleft:20px&amp;quot;&amp;gt;(talk)&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]]&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; 21:45, 14 March 2009 (MDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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:Lol, that is awesome. Thanks dude. [[User:Surgo|Surgo]] 22:00, 14 March 2009 (MDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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::Heh, it's no problem man, just glad I could help. ''':)''' &amp;amp;rarr; [[User:Rithaniel|&amp;lt;span style=color:Gray; -moz-border-radius-topleft:25px; -moz-border-radius-bottomleft:20px&amp;quot;&amp;gt;Rith&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]]&amp;lt;sup&amp;gt; [[User talk:Rithaniel|&amp;lt;span style=color:black; -moz-border-radius-bottomleft:20px; -moz-border-radius-topleft:20px&amp;quot;&amp;gt;(talk)&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]]&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; 01:59, 15 March 2009 (MDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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Thanks for taking the time to spotlight me in the Tavern. In light of many of the recent discussions going on around the site, I'd much appreciate a more friendly personal approach.  If you don't agree with something I state, that is fine, but please refrain from attacking mine, or anyone elses, intelligence.  Thank you in advance for your cooperation. &amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;lt;small&amp;gt;&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;border: 1px solid blue; -moz-border-radius:10px&amp;quot;&amp;gt;[[User:Hooper|'''&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;background-color:White; color:FireBrick; -moz-border-radius-topleft:10px; -moz-border-radius-bottomleft:10px&amp;quot;&amp;gt;  Hooper  &amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;''']][[User talk:Hooper|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;background-color:red; color:blue; -moz-border-radius-bottomleft:10px; -moz-border-radius-topleft:10px&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;amp;nbsp;talk&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]][[Special:Contributions/Hooper|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;background-color:red; color:blue&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;amp;nbsp;contribs&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]][[Special:Emailuser/Hooper|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;background-color:red; color:blue; -moz-border-radius-bottomright:10px; -moz-border-radius-topright:10px&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;amp;nbsp;email&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]]&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;&amp;lt;/small&amp;gt; 01:18, 15 March 2009 (MDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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:What? Where was I attacking your intelligence? I remember saying you were impervious to logic, for the reason of [[Talk:Incompetent (DnD Flaw)]], which is not the same thing as attacking your intelligence. [[User:Surgo|Surgo]] 01:27, 15 March 2009 (MDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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::Being impervious to logic means one is unaffected or unable to be affected by logic.  This brings up the question of &amp;quot;if one is rude in The Tavern should it count as the same as being rude while editing?&amp;quot;  If so it would almost be as if everyone who uses the tavern would get an instant permanent ban.  Huh.  Personally I say no - when Tavern Admins come around they should just use their own judgement.  And before that time keep it like it is - The Tavern has no effect on the wiki.  --[[User:Green Dragon|Green Dragon]] 09:32, 15 March 2009 (MDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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I don't know what people really wanted for Alchemical Potions so i just made this shinanigan for the peeps. you can make it the way you think it should be. --[[User:D.M.DemonicPanda|D.M.DemonicPanda]] 21:57, 3 April 2009&lt;br /&gt;
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== Apology ==&lt;br /&gt;
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Hey, me again. I just wanted to apologize for calling you a power gamer, in case you didn't see the apology on the [[Talk:Incompetent (DnD Flaw)]] page. I can get quite stubborn sometimes. Sorry!--[[User:Fathirian Hound|Fathirian Hound]] 09:15, 20 March 2009 (MDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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:Don't worry about it, dude. [[User:Surgo|Surgo]] 22:26, 20 March 2009 (MDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Barnstar ==&lt;br /&gt;
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{{Barnstar|Thanks for nominating the [[DnD Flaws|flaws]] with purely roleplaying benefits for deletion, and nominating the unusable [[3.5e Quests|quests]] for deletion.  Thanks for helping out with a little spring cleaning.  --[[User:Green Dragon|Green Dragon]] 04:03, 22 March 2009 (MDT)}}&lt;br /&gt;
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== Adminship ==&lt;br /&gt;
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Welcome to Adminship.  You are now part of &amp;quot;The Face&amp;quot; of D&amp;amp;D Wiki.  Honestly, as you will notice, not much has been changed now that you are an admin.  If anything, I would say more burden is placed on you.  But first, for the the new features and their uses.  You can now delete pages, protect pages, rollback edits, block users and IP's, edit every page, patrol edits, and do a couple more minor things.&lt;br /&gt;
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*What deleting pages is, is self explanatory.&lt;br /&gt;
*What protecting pages is, is also pretty self explanatory.&lt;br /&gt;
*Rolling back edits is a method for removing spam.  It is more powerful than the conventional method of undoing edits.  Instead of showing a diff of the edit in question once clicked, it instantly rollsback all the edits by the user or IP in question on a certain page.  For example if I edited my user page and you clicked &amp;quot;rollback&amp;quot; on that edit it would rollback all the edits up to the point where someone else has edited it.  Be careful using this, it can be very helpful but also very harmful.&lt;br /&gt;
*What blocking users and IP's is, is also self explanatory.&lt;br /&gt;
*Editing every page is another self explanatory one.&lt;br /&gt;
*Patrolling edits is a method for keeping [[Special:Recentchanges|RC]] in check, it can be seen once a diff is clicked.  All it does is, once &amp;quot;Mark as Patrolled Edits&amp;quot; is clicked, it marks the edits as patrolled so the edit will no longer show up on [[Special:Recentchanges|RC]] when &amp;quot;Hide Patrolled&amp;quot; is marked.&lt;br /&gt;
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;When or how it should be used&lt;br /&gt;
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*Deleting pages is done through [[:Category:Candidates for Deletion]].&lt;br /&gt;
*Protecting pages has quite a few different times when it should be used.  Pages should be protected according to the author's wishes (with [[Template:Locked Page]] added to the top of the page in question), in case of conflict  (with [[Template:Temp Locked Page]] added to the top of the page in question), in case of [[Help:FAQ#What are OGL, OGC, SRD, and GNU FPL?|OGC]] published materials (with [[Template:OGL Top]] added to the top of the page in question  and [[Template:OGL Bottom]] added to the bottom), or finally if the page is a vital part of D&amp;amp;D Wiki's infrastructure.  If it deals with D&amp;amp;D Wiki's infrastructure it either needs to be be protected from IP edits or all non-sysop edits.  As a rule of thumb pages up to two tiers deep from the [[Main Page]] are normally locked to anyone but sysops and all the others are just protected from IP edits.  For Example [[Dungeons and Dragons]] is protected from all non-sysop edits whereas a deeper in page like [[LA 0 Races]] is only protected from IP edits.  No template has to be added to pages if thay are part of D&amp;amp;D Wiki's organization (even though some do exist like [[Template:Admin Locked Page]])&lt;br /&gt;
*Blocking a user or IP should only be used after an IP or user vandalizes a certain page.  To block someone just click &amp;quot;block&amp;quot; (found either on [[Special:Recentchanges|RC]] or the diff in question) and fill out the corresponding form.  For a typical vandalism attack I normally block the user for two weeks.&lt;br /&gt;
*Editing every page on D&amp;amp;D Wiki mostly means you can now edit the [[SRD:System Reference Document|SRD]] and the [[MSRD:Modern System Reference Document|MSRD]].  Feel free to edit them if you find inaccuracies, and please feel free to help out with [[SRD Talk:System Reference Document#SRD ToDo List]] or [[MSRD Talk:Modern System Reference Document#Tasks]].&lt;br /&gt;
*Patrolling edits should be used when you have looked over an edit and fixed everything that needs to be fixed.   (this includes answering questions, sending MoI's, etc).&lt;br /&gt;
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You have more burden on yourself now that you are an admin because users will be looking at you for editing help, knowledge of D&amp;amp;D, editing guidelines, the standards, etc etc.  It's a bit more work, but I really hope you enjoy being an admin.  --[[User:Green Dragon|Green Dragon]] 13:12, 5 April 2009 (MDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Re: Thank You ==&lt;br /&gt;
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Why you're very welcome, I think I'll enjoy it when the job's done, yes...&lt;br /&gt;
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== AdminBadge ==&lt;br /&gt;
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I'd like to label you as an admin with the &amp;lt;s&amp;gt;&amp;lt;nowiki&amp;gt;[[Template:AdminBadge]]&amp;lt;/nowiki&amp;gt;&amp;lt;/s&amp;gt; on your user page. If you have a reason you don't think you should have the badge or you don't think the badge is a good idea, please discuss it on the badge's [[Template talk:AdminBadge|discussion]]. -[[User:Valentine the Rogue|Valentine the Rogue]] 16:08, 11 April 2009 (MDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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:I'm not going to put it on my page, because I don't want people to treat me differently because I'm an admin. [[User:Surgo|Surgo]] 17:10, 15 April 2009 (MDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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==Adminship==&lt;br /&gt;
Due to my recent illness and moving I've been on very sporadically and as such was not able to comment on your RfA.  However, if I had been able to I would of thrown down a support.  You've done some great things and I especially enjoy the future of your bots. &amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;lt;small&amp;gt;&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;border: 1px solid blue; -moz-border-radius:10px&amp;quot;&amp;gt;[[User:Hooper|'''&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;background-color:White; color:FireBrick; -moz-border-radius-topleft:10px; -moz-border-radius-bottomleft:10px&amp;quot;&amp;gt;  Hooper  &amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;''']][[User talk:Hooper|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;background-color:red; color:blue; -moz-border-radius-bottomleft:10px; -moz-border-radius-topleft:10px&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;amp;nbsp;talk&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]][[Special:Contributions/Hooper|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;background-color:red; color:blue&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;amp;nbsp;contribs&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]][[Special:Emailuser/Hooper|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;background-color:red; color:blue; -moz-border-radius-bottomright:10px; -moz-border-radius-topright:10px&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;amp;nbsp;email&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]]&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;&amp;lt;/small&amp;gt; 10:29, 12 April 2009 (MDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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:Thanks! [[User:Surgo|Surgo]] 17:10, 15 April 2009 (MDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Bot ==&lt;br /&gt;
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From a proper programmer's point of view, the script needs work. From a workhorse point of view, the thing it damned reliable. I usually change the purpose to PRINT to check my work, then run the script as WRITE to save the changes. --[[User:Dmilewski|Dmilewski]] 04:23, 23 April 2009 (MDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Deletion ==&lt;br /&gt;
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On May 12, you deleted two of my classes (Battle Mage and Ulfsark), with the reason for deletion being &amp;quot;Not enough information to be played.  However, both classes were as complete or more complete than any of the SRD classes.[[User:Zyxw59|Zyxw59]] 15:12, 6 July 2009 (MDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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:Don't take my word for it, here they are, temporarily restored: [[Ulfsark (DnD Class)]] and [[Battle Mage (DnD Class)]]. Carry on. --[[User:Ganteka|Ganteka]] 15:27, 6 July 2009 (MDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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::Battle Mage: the mechanics of the blast are never outlined. Ulfsark: There's not enough information to actually ''use'' homeland defense (I'm not sure when it should actually be applied -- something I can't say for any of the SRD classes, which I know exactly how they work). Both classes still have the problem that they're way too weak, though. [[User:Surgo|Surgo]] 22:08, 6 July 2009 (MDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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:::Thanks for the explanation, I will add a description to them.  {{Unsigned|Zyxw59|09:55, 9 July 2009 (MDT)}}&lt;br /&gt;
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::::'''It is still not workable'''. A ranged touch attack, by itself, doesn't tell you its range, among other things. What you NEED to do is go through the pages, pretend you know NOTHING about the classes and you didn't make them, and ''see if there are enough rules written there to '''actually use them'''''. Homeland defense is '''still''' retarded, because at any given point in time a member of my clan somewhere in the world might be attacked and ''how on earth does that work''? Seriously, these are nowhere near SRD level. [[User:Surgo|Surgo]] 14:09, 9 July 2009 (MDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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:::::We have standards on D&amp;amp;D Wiki.  These do not meet them in terms of being usable or not.  As such they got deleted.  If you can fix them in time the deletion is up they will not be deleted.  If not they will be deleted.  --[[User:Green Dragon|Green Dragon]] 17:51, 9 July 2009 (MDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Barnstar the Second ==&lt;br /&gt;
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{{Barnstar|Thanks for making a bot to update all of the breadcrumbs for spells. That saves a lot of manual adjustment (and potential errors caused by manual edits). --[[User:Aarnott|Aarnott]] 22:30, 3 August 2009 (MDT)}}&lt;br /&gt;
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== Gone ==&lt;br /&gt;
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I, along with most of my friends here, have left this wiki due to apparently unresolvable conflict with the administrator to make our own wiki. If you ever need to contact me for some reason, you can email (morgon Dot kanter At gmail Dot com). [[User:Surgo|Surgo]] 08:51, 19 August 2009 (MDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Wikia ==&lt;br /&gt;
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Please do not tell me you deleted wikia's D&amp;amp;D install!  Everyone liked that site as well!  If someone gave you root access to wikia and you deleted their D&amp;amp;D site the whole internet world is going to get '''very''' fucking annoyed with you.&lt;br /&gt;
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Please no.  [http://www.google.com/search?q=wikia+Dungeons+and+Dragons&amp;amp;ie=utf-8&amp;amp;oe=utf-8&amp;amp;aq=t&amp;amp;rls=com.ubuntu:en-US:unofficial&amp;amp;client=firefox-a search criteria].  --[[User:Green Dragon|Green Dragon]] 12:39, 25 August 2009 (MDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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:I cannot find any of the content that was on wikia's dungeons and dragons website anymore.  If you deleted peoples content without any form of permission on wikia because of wrongly given root access the entire internet world will hate you.  All I could find was an archived history of wikia's dungeons and dragons information - [http://www.wikiindex.org/Dungeons_and_Dragons_Wikia].  Other then that I think you may have just shredded wikia's dungeons and dragons section and could be the '''stupidest''' person I have '''ever''' seen or heard from.&lt;br /&gt;
:'''Wikia:''' http://dnd.wikia.com/wiki/Main_Page&lt;br /&gt;
:'''Possible Archive:'''  http://www.wikiindex.org/Dungeons_and_Dragons_Wikia&lt;br /&gt;
:'''Possible Restart:'''  http://dndta.wikia.com/wiki/Dungeons_%26_Dragons_Tiny_Adventures&lt;br /&gt;
:I don't think you understand that people ''worked'' on their content their, the rules were '''different''' their, etc.  --[[User:Green Dragon|Green Dragon]] 13:00, 25 August 2009 (MDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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::I hope you backed it up before you started working their.  I hope you did not shred it.  --[[User:Green Dragon|Green Dragon]] 13:07, 25 August 2009 (MDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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::: Ummm... GD, that's not even their &amp;quot;new&amp;quot; wiki. I don't think Surgo or anyone else from this site has anything to do with that. --[[User:Ghostwheel|Ghostwheel]] 13:09, 25 August 2009 (MDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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:::: I don't get it?  What happened to the DnD wikia?  --[[User:Jay Freedman|Jay Freedman]] 13:11, 25 August 2009 (MDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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:::::Ghost, I think what he means is that all of Wikia is psuedo-linked, and Surgo had needed some additional access/tools to get the new wiki to run the way he needed it to, and may have unknowingly deleted another wikia wiki's information.  Not that I know if that is or not, I just think that is what he means. &amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;lt;small&amp;gt;&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;border: 1px solid black; -moz-border-radius:10px&amp;quot;&amp;gt;[[User:Hooper|'''&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;background-color:White; color:Black; -moz-border-radius-topleft:10px; -moz-border-radius-bottomleft:10px&amp;quot;&amp;gt;  Hooper  &amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;''']][[User talk:Hooper|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;background-color:Black; color:white; -moz-border-radius-bottomleft:10px; -moz-border-radius-topleft:10px&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;amp;nbsp;talk&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]][[Special:Contributions/Hooper|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;background-color:black; color:white&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;amp;nbsp;contribs&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]][[Special:Emailuser/Hooper|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;background-color:black; color:white; -moz-border-radius-bottomright:10px; -moz-border-radius-topright:10px&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;amp;nbsp;email&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]]&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;&amp;lt;/small&amp;gt; 13:27, 25 August 2009 (MDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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{{quote|[[Meta Pages#Policies]]; swearing is a violation of our policies.|[[User:Green Dragon|Green Dragon]]|orig=[[User_talk:Green_Dragon/Archive_15#Harassment|Green Dragon Talk, Archive 15, Subsection &amp;quot;Harassment&amp;quot;]]}}&lt;br /&gt;
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{{quote|[[w:Wikipedia:Civility#Engaging in incivility]]. However you are right, you both deserve a warning.|[[User:Green Dragon|Green Dragon]]|orig=[[User_talk:Green_Dragon/Archive_15#Harassment|Green Dragon Talk, Archive 15, Subsection &amp;quot;Harassment&amp;quot;]]}}&lt;br /&gt;
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{{quote|What does &amp;quot;gross civility&amp;quot; even mean to you[Sic]? ...|[[User:Dragon Child|Dragon Child]]|orig=[[User_talk:Green_Dragon/Archive_15#Harassment|Green Dragon Talk, Archive 15, Subsection &amp;quot;Harassment&amp;quot;]]}}&lt;br /&gt;
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Should fall under those options.|[[User:Green Dragon|Green Dragon]]|orig=[[User_talk:Green_Dragon/Archive_15#Harassment|Green Dragon Talk, Archive 15, Subsection &amp;quot;Harassment&amp;quot;]]}}&lt;br /&gt;
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:::::: Acting as a People's Repesentitive of Law and Order (as laid down by bureaucrat [[User:Green Dragon|Green Dragon]]), I, hereby, warn you, [[User:Green Dragon|Green Dragon]], for your conduct in this section of [[User:Surgo|Surgo]]'s talk page. Let it be known that none think themselves above the rules of site, otherwise it descends into anarchy or worse; despotism! I am sure you will receive this warning with the grace and style you have so accustomed to yourself in your previous actions.&lt;br /&gt;
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:::::: Thank you for your co-operation. --[[User:TK-Squared|TK-Squared]] 13:31, 25 August 2009 (MDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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:::::::TK, good to see you!  Could you place the same warning on GD's talk page for Jota's cursing too please?  Thanks! &amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;lt;small&amp;gt;&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;border: 1px solid black; -moz-border-radius:10px&amp;quot;&amp;gt;[[User:Hooper|'''&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;background-color:White; color:Black; -moz-border-radius-topleft:10px; -moz-border-radius-bottomleft:10px&amp;quot;&amp;gt;  Hooper  &amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;''']][[User talk:Hooper|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;background-color:Black; color:white; -moz-border-radius-bottomleft:10px; -moz-border-radius-topleft:10px&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;amp;nbsp;talk&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]][[Special:Contributions/Hooper|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;background-color:black; color:white&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;amp;nbsp;contribs&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]][[Special:Emailuser/Hooper|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;background-color:black; color:white; -moz-border-radius-bottomright:10px; -moz-border-radius-topright:10px&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;amp;nbsp;email&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]]&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;&amp;lt;/small&amp;gt; 13:33, 25 August 2009 (MDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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:::::::: (Sigh) This warning should go over real well... (Patiently awaiting the public executions to come.)  Haha. Jk.  What up TK!  We love you man.  --[[User:Jay Freedman|Jay Freedman]] 13:56, 25 August 2009 (MDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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:::::::::Their are stupid people in the world...  That's not name calling &amp;amp;mdash; it's brutal honesty.  And [[User:TK-Squared|TK-Squared]] you have zero authority here; do not act like you do.  Also I am pretty positive you deleted the old wikia's D&amp;amp;D wiki.  I have no idea what wikia was thinking to let you have root access to their servers.  I am calling them dumb people as well.  You ruined a wiki in about 10 minutes and you have no regret?  Everyone liked that site as well and all you people can do is bitch at me about it?  Don't just sit around bitching to me about yur petty problems - get back the damn website.  I have had people unrestore shift-deleted things before.  If you did not shred it there is still a chance you can get it back.  Do something!  Don't just mope and gripe to me about your petty authority problems; fix your mistakes.  --[[User:Green Dragon|Green Dragon]] 16:20, 25 August 2009 (MDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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:::::::::: lol wut --[[User:TK-Squared|TK-Squared]] 16:45, 25 August 2009 (MDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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::::::::::: Green Dragon, what are you even talking about? NOBODY here had anything to do with that wiki at all! [[User:Dragon Child|Dragon Child]] 16:46, 25 August 2009 (MDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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:'''What the hell'''? Listen Green Dragon, you fucking moron. While I'd normally be honored to be so vilified by the likes of you, this is just retarded. The last time anyone did anything on that other wiki was in 2007. If you think I somehow &amp;quot;deleted&amp;quot; their wiki (as if that's even possible on wikia), that makes you even dumber than I had originally given you credit for. (And yes, I did think about adopting that one in like with the wikia policy. I decided against it, and instead started my own wiki. Which in one day surpassed their article count by about five-fold.) I have no idea how you even got this stupid idea. [[User:Surgo|Surgo]] 16:58, 25 August 2009 (MDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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::I don't think we should concern ourselves with the two wikis.  Surgo's wiki states on it's main page that it is for Same Game Test material mostly, which will draw a certain demographic.  Ours will draw a different demographic (the material on our site dedicated to SGT and op material is a small percentage, and I'm sure theres will have a small percentage of more core stuff = not enough for either &amp;quot;side&amp;quot; to worry about the other).  If people on one side or the other don't feel like they can help both, then just leave it be.  Everyone is just going to make themselves more upset as they argue. &amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;lt;small&amp;gt;&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;border: 1px solid black; -moz-border-radius:10px&amp;quot;&amp;gt;[[User:Hooper|'''&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;background-color:White; color:Black; -moz-border-radius-topleft:10px; -moz-border-radius-bottomleft:10px&amp;quot;&amp;gt;  Hooper  &amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;''']][[User talk:Hooper|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;background-color:Black; color:white; -moz-border-radius-bottomleft:10px; -moz-border-radius-topleft:10px&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;amp;nbsp;talk&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]][[Special:Contributions/Hooper|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;background-color:black; color:white&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;amp;nbsp;contribs&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]][[Special:Emailuser/Hooper|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;background-color:black; color:white; -moz-border-radius-bottomright:10px; -moz-border-radius-topright:10px&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;amp;nbsp;email&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]]&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;&amp;lt;/small&amp;gt; 18:37, 25 August 2009 (MDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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::: Good advice Hooper.  Of course, a wise sage once said &amp;quot;He who mediates between lions lives short life.&amp;quot;  So while we would like not to worry about wiki wars... (Thats a cool name. Wiki Wars! I love that! Haha! I am so stupid.) ...this will probably continue for some time.  --[[User:Jay Freedman|Jay Freedman]] 18:47, 25 August 2009 (MDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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:::: Hooper, I'm not sure why you insist on misrepresenting me. My wiki does not say that it is mostly for Same Game Test material...at all. It says it's for all material, and anything that doesn't define a balance point is assumed to be Same Game test. I don't know how it can be any more clear than that (which is what it actually says on the front page). Hooper, the only reason I am even posting here is because Green Dragon made some boneheaded accusation he pulled out of his ass. This has nothing to do with &amp;quot;wiki wars&amp;quot; or whatever (unless this is Green Dragon's weird idea of a 'war' or something). [[User:Surgo|Surgo]] 19:04, 25 August 2009 (MDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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:::::Ah, well if something is &amp;quot;assumed to be SGT&amp;quot; instead of assuming it is &amp;quot;core&amp;quot; ''(for lack of a better word)'', I would say that it is just fostering the above kind of thoughts.  People who support the SGT mind frame will be more prone to follow it is all. As I said above, both wikis will have some of each. &amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;lt;small&amp;gt;&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;border: 1px solid black; -moz-border-radius:10px&amp;quot;&amp;gt;[[User:Hooper|'''&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;background-color:White; color:Black; -moz-border-radius-topleft:10px; -moz-border-radius-bottomleft:10px&amp;quot;&amp;gt;  Hooper  &amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;''']][[User talk:Hooper|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;background-color:Black; color:white; -moz-border-radius-bottomleft:10px; -moz-border-radius-topleft:10px&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;amp;nbsp;talk&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]][[Special:Contributions/Hooper|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;background-color:black; color:white&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;amp;nbsp;contribs&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]][[Special:Emailuser/Hooper|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;background-color:black; color:white; -moz-border-radius-bottomright:10px; -moz-border-radius-topright:10px&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;amp;nbsp;email&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]]&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;&amp;lt;/small&amp;gt; 19:09, 25 August 2009 (MDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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::::::The obvious point of contention is that you say SGT and core are not the same; others would argue otherwise. I don't want to turn this discussion into that, but you say po-tay-to, I say po-tah-to. -- [[User:Jota|Jota]] 20:04, 25 August 2009 (MDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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:::::::Does anyone know where all the content on [http://dnd.wikia.com/wiki/Basics_and_Ability_Scores] went?  With the thought in mind of [http://dungeons.wikia.com/wiki/Main_Page] (permissions).  --[[User:Green Dragon|Green Dragon]] 20:44, 25 August 2009 (MDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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::::::::http://dnd.wikia.com/wiki/Special:Contributions/Maunderingcabal  [http://dnd.wikia.com/wiki/Quickling_Runner] [http://dnd.wikia.com/wiki/Guard_Drake] [http://dnd.wikia.com/wiki/Hobgoblin_Warcaster] [http://dnd.wikia.com/wiki/Corruption_Corpse] [http://dnd.wikia.com/wiki/Warforged_Battle_Champion], etc.  --[[User:Green Dragon|Green Dragon]] 20:49, 25 August 2009 (MDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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:::::::::What the hell is your point? How should any of us know where any of their stuff went? I've only looked at that wiki once in my lifetime. [[User:Surgo|Surgo]] 20:51, 25 August 2009 (MDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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::::::::::I'm not Wikia.  I do not know enough in this instance to make a correct judgement.  I am not positive why the content was removed; I am not Wikia.  One would have to look at IP's and permissions on Wikia's backend to get a better judgment.  Who knows; I am not Wikia.  --[[User:Green Dragon|Green Dragon]] 20:59, 25 August 2009 (MDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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:::::::::::I think this is a good example of GD's attitude. As he yells at, makes threats against, and harasses someone who has done nothing wrong, and with no proof to back it up, and instead just throws out random links incoherently. [[User:Dragon Child|Dragon Child]] 20:58, 25 August 2009 (MDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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:::::::::: @GD.  Dude your freakin me out?  Nobody here took their stuff.  That site must just be having problems.  Surgo would probably just base his new wiki off this one anyway.  He wouldn't model his new site of that wikia in a million years.  He would mimic this site and try to improve it, adding &amp;quot;Surgo Flavor&amp;quot; or something.  Nobody I know messed with that empty wikia.  Sorry.  --[[User:Jay Freedman|Jay Freedman]] 21:00, 25 August 2009 (MDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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:::::::::::That's right. You are not Wikia. That means you should not be throwing around wild-ass and incorrect accusations at me. [[User:Surgo|Surgo]] 21:04, 25 August 2009 (MDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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::::::::::::Seriously GD, what the heck are you on about? Given that a lot of us weren't even aware of that site's existence, how do you expect those pages to mean anything to anyone? -- [[User:Jota|Jota]] 21:04, 25 August 2009 (MDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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:::::::::::::Those links you provided don't even have any content missing, as far as I can tell. No other content was added to them besides the picture of the miniature. You're yelling at someone who did nothing over a &amp;quot;crime&amp;quot; that everyone can see doesn't even exist. Perhaps now it's time to call you stupid, and say it's justified, as some people are just stupid? [[User:Dragon Child|Dragon Child]] 21:05, 25 August 2009 (MDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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::What do you mean you have nothing to do with it? You STARTED this discussion, by falsely accusing, nay, OUTRIGHT LYING AND INSULTING SURGO! [[User:Dragon Child|Dragon Child]] 21:39, 25 August 2009 (MDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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:::I asked a question.  --[[User:Green Dragon|Green Dragon]] 21:41, 25 August 2009 (MDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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::::That's pretty funny, because I don't see a question mark in your post. [[User:Surgo|Surgo]] 21:49, 2 September 2009 (MDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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:You guys need to take this discussion (about Wikia's wiki's) onto Wikia's pages. I have nothing to do with it. --[[User:Green Dragon|Green Dragon]] 21:24, 25 August 2009 (MDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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Recently in our discussions on the possibility of having templates on SGT material, you routinely stated that you believe things should state facts.  I agree.  Completely.  I believe your current user page misrepresents the amount of users who left, and should be altered to be more factually correct ''(i.e. &amp;quot;left with some&amp;quot; instead of the incorrect &amp;quot;most&amp;quot;)''. &amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;lt;small&amp;gt;&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;border: 1px solid black; -moz-border-radius:10px&amp;quot;&amp;gt;[[User:Hooper|'''&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;background-color:White; color:Black; -moz-border-radius-topleft:10px; -moz-border-radius-bottomleft:10px&amp;quot;&amp;gt;  Hooper  &amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;''']][[User talk:Hooper|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;background-color:Black; color:white; -moz-border-radius-bottomleft:10px; -moz-border-radius-topleft:10px&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;amp;nbsp;talk&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]][[Special:Contributions/Hooper|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;background-color:black; color:white&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;amp;nbsp;contribs&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]][[Special:Emailuser/Hooper|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;background-color:black; color:white; -moz-border-radius-bottomright:10px; -moz-border-radius-topright:10px&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;amp;nbsp;email&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]]&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;&amp;lt;/small&amp;gt; 14:59, 3 September 2009 (MDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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:Perhaps if you feel it is infactual, you should tell me actual percentages of users that have left so it can have the utmost accuracy. After all, looking at your current and former &amp;quot;active users&amp;quot; list, I believe that what I said is entirely factual. So I think you are wrong. [[User:Surgo|Surgo]] 17:24, 3 September 2009 (MDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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::Seriously Hooper? I thought you were a bit more mature than that. --[[User:208.90.100.111|208.90.100.111]] 18:00, 3 September 2009 (MDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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:::I'm being mature, and requesting a not-factually correct statement to be amended by an individual who has proven to value factual statements.  You want the statistics?  Fair enough.  Users who can arguably be said to be officially gone from this wiki to your wiki and who aren't still active on both are  (and please let me know if I miss anyone):  You, TK, Aarnot, Danial Draco, Eiji, Sam Kay, Sabre, Rith, Summerscythe, and Val.  Combined, their edit contributions equal 23,315 edits.  Even if we assume one page count equals one page, that  isn't even half of our pages on the wiki (and that is giving these edits ALOT more credit). Since the timeframe of the split, yours has about roughly 30 active users.  Since the only stat I can provide is the last 500 edits on this wiki, and if we do not count any of the people from your wiki (since their edits were probably related to the split) we have 21 active users - that is less than two days.  If I had a method to show stats - we can follow the same obvious trend and up this number amazingly so. We've also had 128 new users since August 10th - roughly the time of the split give a day or two, of which 56 have been active - and even trimming that to &amp;quot;more active than user page activity&amp;quot; still leaves 27.  Did you take some active users?  Yes.  Some valuable users? Yes.  Most?  No.  Half?   No.  Once again, I appreciated and agreed with your comments during the SGT template discussions for factual accuracy, and I hold you to those standards. &amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;lt;small&amp;gt;&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;border: 1px solid black; -moz-border-radius:10px&amp;quot;&amp;gt;[[User:Hooper|'''&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;background-color:White; color:Black; -moz-border-radius-topleft:10px; -moz-border-radius-bottomleft:10px&amp;quot;&amp;gt;  Hooper  &amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;''']][[User talk:Hooper|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;background-color:Black; color:white; -moz-border-radius-bottomleft:10px; -moz-border-radius-topleft:10px&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;amp;nbsp;talk&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]][[Special:Contributions/Hooper|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;background-color:black; color:white&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;amp;nbsp;contribs&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]][[Special:Emailuser/Hooper|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;background-color:black; color:white; -moz-border-radius-bottomright:10px; -moz-border-radius-topright:10px&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;amp;nbsp;email&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]]&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;&amp;lt;/small&amp;gt; 19:54, 3 September 2009 (MDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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::::Key word is active, not some one-and-done IP addresses. I don't necessarily agree with Surgo's assertion, but I really don't see why Surgo's user page is an issue given anyone can look at the recent activity and judge for themselves. -- [[User:Jota|Jota]] 19:58, 3 September 2009 (MDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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:::::I did miss one person I believe.   Lord Dhazriel.  Even with his edits you still only have 27,889.  Out of '''391,805'''.  True that there is no possibly way to get verifiable stats for say, the last 6 month percentage, but it still isn't close to half. If you want to say &amp;quot;most of the tavern regulars&amp;quot; then you may have some factual truth behind that. &lt;br /&gt;
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::::::You've missed about 10 people in that list. Once again, just compare the former &amp;quot;active users&amp;quot; list to the current one. And never mind the total ridiculous nature of edit count, which means absolutely nothing. And add to that what Jota just said below me...active users, not one-and-done signups. No, I'm thinking my user page is perfectly factual here. Sorry if you're somehow getting some proxy butthurt for Green Dragon over the split or something. [[User:Surgo|Surgo]] 20:03, 3 September 2009 (MDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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::::::: It not about edits, I mean if you count one-time IP and '''bots''' as active users then yes, only a small part of the active userbase left. But they do not, at least to my knowledge, only a few dozen of users actively contributed to this wiki at all time. These were (or are) active users, most IP or registered users only make 1 or 2 edits before leaving the wiki forever. --[[User:Lord Dhazriel|Dhazriel]] 20:04, 3 September 2009 (MDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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:::::::::Perhaps you should learn the meaning of your statistics before you post them. All of those edits could be made by people who have since left years ago. Then a few people remain, and are active with a few hundred edits a piece. Then 3/4ths of them leave. Guess what? The majority of active users ''still left'', even if the people responsible for the majority of edits ''have not technically left with them''. If you're going to throw statistics around, you should at least demonstrate some basic understanding of them. [[User:Surgo|Surgo]] 20:12, 3 September 2009 (MDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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::::::::::Actually, I do understand them, and I provided the only verifiable stats I could - the last 500 counts for just a couple days - which nearly equal your site's number of active users since its inception.  I 'm not going to throw out a number that I can't verify - but using that formula and expanding it to the same time since your site started - we could easilly verify the last month's active users being more.  You must have overlooked that above. &amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;lt;small&amp;gt;&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;border: 1px solid black; -moz-border-radius:10px&amp;quot;&amp;gt;[[User:Hooper|'''&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;background-color:White; color:Black; -moz-border-radius-topleft:10px; -moz-border-radius-bottomleft:10px&amp;quot;&amp;gt;  Hooper  &amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;''']][[User talk:Hooper|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;background-color:Black; color:white; -moz-border-radius-bottomleft:10px; -moz-border-radius-topleft:10px&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;amp;nbsp;talk&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]][[Special:Contributions/Hooper|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;background-color:black; color:white&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;amp;nbsp;contribs&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]][[Special:Emailuser/Hooper|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;background-color:black; color:white; -moz-border-radius-bottomright:10px; -moz-border-radius-topright:10px&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;amp;nbsp;email&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]]&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;&amp;lt;/small&amp;gt; 20:15, 3 September 2009 (MDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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:::::::::::I overlooked nothing, but I thought it was so obvious that it didn't even need saying: how many of those edits are the nonsensical noise between you and Ghostwheel? And how many edits on my site are more than noise? See, reasons like this are why trying to compare penis size, err, edit count, is complete nonsense. [[User:Surgo|Surgo]] 20:20, 3 September 2009 (MDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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::::::::::: Hooper, just... just stop it, eh? As long as it's not offensive, Surgo can (I think?) have just about anything he wants on his user page. He could state the sky was purple. It's not factually true, but he can say whatever he wants. People who want to see for themselves will do a little research. People who don't care won't. But in the end, right now it just looks like you're being stubborn and obstinate for no real reason. --[[User:Ghostwheel|Ghostwheel]] 20:19, 3 September 2009 (MDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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::If your standard is statistics that don't mean anything, sure. Unfortunately, I'm still being factually correct and you're throwing some half-baked ideas at me that don't say what you're claiming they say. [[User:Surgo|Surgo]] 20:23, 3 September 2009 (MDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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:::No, you are trying to say I'm claiming they say something they don't.  All I did was provide you the only stats even close to relevant to the discussion that are available, and the overwhelming landslide that all those stats show demand a rational mind to acknowledge that they show the proper trend. However, there is no point in pursuing the subject. &amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;lt;small&amp;gt;&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;border: 1px solid black; -moz-border-radius:10px&amp;quot;&amp;gt;[[User:Hooper|'''&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;background-color:White; color:Black; -moz-border-radius-topleft:10px; -moz-border-radius-bottomleft:10px&amp;quot;&amp;gt;  Hooper  &amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;''']][[User talk:Hooper|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;background-color:Black; color:white; -moz-border-radius-bottomleft:10px; -moz-border-radius-topleft:10px&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;amp;nbsp;talk&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]][[Special:Contributions/Hooper|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;background-color:black; color:white&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;amp;nbsp;contribs&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]][[Special:Emailuser/Hooper|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;background-color:black; color:white; -moz-border-radius-bottomright:10px; -moz-border-radius-topright:10px&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;amp;nbsp;email&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]]&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;&amp;lt;/small&amp;gt; 20:26, 3 September 2009 (MDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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::::Did you just miss that whole part where I debunked these statistics above? Okay, whatever you say man. [[User:Surgo|Surgo]] 20:28, 3 September 2009 (MDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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:::::You didn't debunked them, only stated something I've already acknowledged: they aren't perfect.   However, can you provide any statistics to even half way back up your claim? &amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;lt;small&amp;gt;&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;border: 1px solid black; -moz-border-radius:10px&amp;quot;&amp;gt;[[User:Hooper|'''&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;background-color:White; color:Black; -moz-border-radius-topleft:10px; -moz-border-radius-bottomleft:10px&amp;quot;&amp;gt;  Hooper  &amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;''']][[User talk:Hooper|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;background-color:Black; color:white; -moz-border-radius-bottomleft:10px; -moz-border-radius-topleft:10px&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;amp;nbsp;talk&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]][[Special:Contributions/Hooper|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;background-color:black; color:white&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;amp;nbsp;contribs&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]][[Special:Emailuser/Hooper|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;background-color:black; color:white; -moz-border-radius-bottomright:10px; -moz-border-radius-topright:10px&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;amp;nbsp;email&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]]&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;&amp;lt;/small&amp;gt; 20:31, 3 September 2009 (MDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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::::::'''Statistics need to mean something in order to lend any weight!''' I'm not sure how many times I'm going to have to make this point. But I'm sure you're just going to ignore it and somehow claim these 20 or so edits on this page and all the deletions I recently performed are somehow indicative that I count as an active user of this wiki, or something. [[User:Surgo|Surgo]] 20:32, 3 September 2009 (MDT)&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
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== Protection for Tome Classes ==&lt;br /&gt;
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I wondered if you want to protect the tome-classes against IP edit. Maybe it would be better?--[[User:Lord Dhazriel|Lord Dhazriel]] 15:21, 27 January 2009 (MST)&lt;br /&gt;
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:I'd be very appreciative, and I'm sure Surgo would be, too. It'd cut back on the amount of edit undoing we'd have to do. What ''is'' it about lately? There's been a bunch of IPs changing random classes and races all over the Wiki... --[[User:Genowhirl|Genowhirl]] 10:15, 28 January 2009 (MST)&lt;br /&gt;
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== For Your Consideration ==&lt;br /&gt;
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I've noticed the ammount of people who have been giving the things made by Frank and K bad ratings before they understood the idea behind the class, and so, have made this template to try and help you guys out:&lt;br /&gt;
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{{Frank and K material}}&lt;br /&gt;
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Hope it helps (also, I officially hand over all rights to this template to you and Genowhirl, since I have no hand in any Frank and K material and don't really know what should or shouldn't go into this template). &amp;amp;rarr; [[User:Rithaniel|&amp;lt;span style=color:Gray; -moz-border-radius-topleft:25px; -moz-border-radius-bottomleft:20px&amp;quot;&amp;gt;Rith&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]]&amp;lt;sup&amp;gt; [[User talk:Rithaniel|&amp;lt;span style=color:black; -moz-border-radius-bottomleft:20px; -moz-border-radius-topleft:20px&amp;quot;&amp;gt;(talk)&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]]&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; 21:45, 14 March 2009 (MDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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:Lol, that is awesome. Thanks dude. [[User:Surgo|Surgo]] 22:00, 14 March 2009 (MDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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::Heh, it's no problem man, just glad I could help. ''':)''' &amp;amp;rarr; [[User:Rithaniel|&amp;lt;span style=color:Gray; -moz-border-radius-topleft:25px; -moz-border-radius-bottomleft:20px&amp;quot;&amp;gt;Rith&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]]&amp;lt;sup&amp;gt; [[User talk:Rithaniel|&amp;lt;span style=color:black; -moz-border-radius-bottomleft:20px; -moz-border-radius-topleft:20px&amp;quot;&amp;gt;(talk)&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]]&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; 01:59, 15 March 2009 (MDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Comment ==&lt;br /&gt;
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Thanks for taking the time to spotlight me in the Tavern. In light of many of the recent discussions going on around the site, I'd much appreciate a more friendly personal approach.  If you don't agree with something I state, that is fine, but please refrain from attacking mine, or anyone elses, intelligence.  Thank you in advance for your cooperation. &amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;lt;small&amp;gt;&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;border: 1px solid blue; -moz-border-radius:10px&amp;quot;&amp;gt;[[User:Hooper|'''&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;background-color:White; color:FireBrick; -moz-border-radius-topleft:10px; -moz-border-radius-bottomleft:10px&amp;quot;&amp;gt;  Hooper  &amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;''']][[User talk:Hooper|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;background-color:red; color:blue; -moz-border-radius-bottomleft:10px; -moz-border-radius-topleft:10px&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;amp;nbsp;talk&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]][[Special:Contributions/Hooper|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;background-color:red; color:blue&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;amp;nbsp;contribs&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]][[Special:Emailuser/Hooper|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;background-color:red; color:blue; -moz-border-radius-bottomright:10px; -moz-border-radius-topright:10px&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;amp;nbsp;email&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]]&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;&amp;lt;/small&amp;gt; 01:18, 15 March 2009 (MDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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:What? Where was I attacking your intelligence? I remember saying you were impervious to logic, for the reason of [[Talk:Incompetent (DnD Flaw)]], which is not the same thing as attacking your intelligence. [[User:Surgo|Surgo]] 01:27, 15 March 2009 (MDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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::Being impervious to logic means one is unaffected or unable to be affected by logic.  This brings up the question of &amp;quot;if one is rude in The Tavern should it count as the same as being rude while editing?&amp;quot;  If so it would almost be as if everyone who uses the tavern would get an instant permanent ban.  Huh.  Personally I say no - when Tavern Admins come around they should just use their own judgement.  And before that time keep it like it is - The Tavern has no effect on the wiki.  --[[User:Green Dragon|Green Dragon]] 09:32, 15 March 2009 (MDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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I don't know what people really wanted for Alchemical Potions so i just made this shinanigan for the peeps. you can make it the way you think it should be. --[[User:D.M.DemonicPanda|D.M.DemonicPanda]] 21:57, 3 April 2009&lt;br /&gt;
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''Comment moved to [[Talk:Alchemist (DnD Class)]]..''&lt;br /&gt;
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== Apology ==&lt;br /&gt;
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Hey, me again. I just wanted to apologize for calling you a power gamer, in case you didn't see the apology on the [[Talk:Incompetent (DnD Flaw)]] page. I can get quite stubborn sometimes. Sorry!--[[User:Fathirian Hound|Fathirian Hound]] 09:15, 20 March 2009 (MDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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:Don't worry about it, dude. [[User:Surgo|Surgo]] 22:26, 20 March 2009 (MDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Barnstar ==&lt;br /&gt;
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{{Barnstar|Thanks for nominating the [[DnD Flaws|flaws]] with purely roleplaying benefits for deletion, and nominating the unusable [[3.5e Quests|quests]] for deletion.  Thanks for helping out with a little spring cleaning.  --[[User:Green Dragon|Green Dragon]] 04:03, 22 March 2009 (MDT)}}&lt;br /&gt;
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== Adminship ==&lt;br /&gt;
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Welcome to Adminship.  You are now part of &amp;quot;The Face&amp;quot; of D&amp;amp;D Wiki.  Honestly, as you will notice, not much has been changed now that you are an admin.  If anything, I would say more burden is placed on you.  But first, for the the new features and their uses.  You can now delete pages, protect pages, rollback edits, block users and IP's, edit every page, patrol edits, and do a couple more minor things.&lt;br /&gt;
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;What it is:&lt;br /&gt;
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*What deleting pages is, is self explanatory.&lt;br /&gt;
*What protecting pages is, is also pretty self explanatory.&lt;br /&gt;
*Rolling back edits is a method for removing spam.  It is more powerful than the conventional method of undoing edits.  Instead of showing a diff of the edit in question once clicked, it instantly rollsback all the edits by the user or IP in question on a certain page.  For example if I edited my user page and you clicked &amp;quot;rollback&amp;quot; on that edit it would rollback all the edits up to the point where someone else has edited it.  Be careful using this, it can be very helpful but also very harmful.&lt;br /&gt;
*What blocking users and IP's is, is also self explanatory.&lt;br /&gt;
*Editing every page is another self explanatory one.&lt;br /&gt;
*Patrolling edits is a method for keeping [[Special:Recentchanges|RC]] in check, it can be seen once a diff is clicked.  All it does is, once &amp;quot;Mark as Patrolled Edits&amp;quot; is clicked, it marks the edits as patrolled so the edit will no longer show up on [[Special:Recentchanges|RC]] when &amp;quot;Hide Patrolled&amp;quot; is marked.&lt;br /&gt;
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;When or how it should be used&lt;br /&gt;
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*Deleting pages is done through [[:Category:Candidates for Deletion]].&lt;br /&gt;
*Protecting pages has quite a few different times when it should be used.  Pages should be protected according to the author's wishes (with [[Template:Locked Page]] added to the top of the page in question), in case of conflict  (with [[Template:Temp Locked Page]] added to the top of the page in question), in case of [[Help:FAQ#What are OGL, OGC, SRD, and GNU FPL?|OGC]] published materials (with [[Template:OGL Top]] added to the top of the page in question  and [[Template:OGL Bottom]] added to the bottom), or finally if the page is a vital part of D&amp;amp;D Wiki's infrastructure.  If it deals with D&amp;amp;D Wiki's infrastructure it either needs to be be protected from IP edits or all non-sysop edits.  As a rule of thumb pages up to two tiers deep from the [[Main Page]] are normally locked to anyone but sysops and all the others are just protected from IP edits.  For Example [[Dungeons and Dragons]] is protected from all non-sysop edits whereas a deeper in page like [[LA 0 Races]] is only protected from IP edits.  No template has to be added to pages if thay are part of D&amp;amp;D Wiki's organization (even though some do exist like [[Template:Admin Locked Page]])&lt;br /&gt;
*Blocking a user or IP should only be used after an IP or user vandalizes a certain page.  To block someone just click &amp;quot;block&amp;quot; (found either on [[Special:Recentchanges|RC]] or the diff in question) and fill out the corresponding form.  For a typical vandalism attack I normally block the user for two weeks.&lt;br /&gt;
*Editing every page on D&amp;amp;D Wiki mostly means you can now edit the [[SRD:System Reference Document|SRD]] and the [[MSRD:Modern System Reference Document|MSRD]].  Feel free to edit them if you find inaccuracies, and please feel free to help out with [[SRD Talk:System Reference Document#SRD ToDo List]] or [[MSRD Talk:Modern System Reference Document#Tasks]].&lt;br /&gt;
*Patrolling edits should be used when you have looked over an edit and fixed everything that needs to be fixed.   (this includes answering questions, sending MoI's, etc).&lt;br /&gt;
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You have more burden on yourself now that you are an admin because users will be looking at you for editing help, knowledge of D&amp;amp;D, editing guidelines, the standards, etc etc.  It's a bit more work, but I really hope you enjoy being an admin.  --[[User:Green Dragon|Green Dragon]] 13:12, 5 April 2009 (MDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Re: Thank You ==&lt;br /&gt;
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Why you're very welcome, I think I'll enjoy it when the job's done, yes...&lt;br /&gt;
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== AdminBadge ==&lt;br /&gt;
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I'd like to label you as an admin with the &amp;lt;s&amp;gt;&amp;lt;nowiki&amp;gt;[[Template:AdminBadge]]&amp;lt;/nowiki&amp;gt;&amp;lt;/s&amp;gt; on your user page. If you have a reason you don't think you should have the badge or you don't think the badge is a good idea, please discuss it on the badge's [[Template talk:AdminBadge|discussion]]. -[[User:Valentine the Rogue|Valentine the Rogue]] 16:08, 11 April 2009 (MDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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:I'm not going to put it on my page, because I don't want people to treat me differently because I'm an admin. [[User:Surgo|Surgo]] 17:10, 15 April 2009 (MDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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==Adminship==&lt;br /&gt;
Due to my recent illness and moving I've been on very sporadically and as such was not able to comment on your RfA.  However, if I had been able to I would of thrown down a support.  You've done some great things and I especially enjoy the future of your bots. &amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;lt;small&amp;gt;&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;border: 1px solid blue; -moz-border-radius:10px&amp;quot;&amp;gt;[[User:Hooper|'''&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;background-color:White; color:FireBrick; -moz-border-radius-topleft:10px; -moz-border-radius-bottomleft:10px&amp;quot;&amp;gt;  Hooper  &amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;''']][[User talk:Hooper|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;background-color:red; color:blue; -moz-border-radius-bottomleft:10px; -moz-border-radius-topleft:10px&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;amp;nbsp;talk&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]][[Special:Contributions/Hooper|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;background-color:red; color:blue&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;amp;nbsp;contribs&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]][[Special:Emailuser/Hooper|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;background-color:red; color:blue; -moz-border-radius-bottomright:10px; -moz-border-radius-topright:10px&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;amp;nbsp;email&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]]&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;&amp;lt;/small&amp;gt; 10:29, 12 April 2009 (MDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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:Thanks! [[User:Surgo|Surgo]] 17:10, 15 April 2009 (MDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Bot ==&lt;br /&gt;
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[[User:Dmilewski/Wikibot]]&lt;br /&gt;
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From a proper programmer's point of view, the script needs work. From a workhorse point of view, the thing it damned reliable. I usually change the purpose to PRINT to check my work, then run the script as WRITE to save the changes. --[[User:Dmilewski|Dmilewski]] 04:23, 23 April 2009 (MDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Deletion ==&lt;br /&gt;
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On May 12, you deleted two of my classes (Battle Mage and Ulfsark), with the reason for deletion being &amp;quot;Not enough information to be played.  However, both classes were as complete or more complete than any of the SRD classes.[[User:Zyxw59|Zyxw59]] 15:12, 6 July 2009 (MDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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:Don't take my word for it, here they are, temporarily restored: [[Ulfsark (DnD Class)]] and [[Battle Mage (DnD Class)]]. Carry on. --[[User:Ganteka|Ganteka]] 15:27, 6 July 2009 (MDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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::Battle Mage: the mechanics of the blast are never outlined. Ulfsark: There's not enough information to actually ''use'' homeland defense (I'm not sure when it should actually be applied -- something I can't say for any of the SRD classes, which I know exactly how they work). Both classes still have the problem that they're way too weak, though. [[User:Surgo|Surgo]] 22:08, 6 July 2009 (MDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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:::Thanks for the explanation, I will add a description to them.  {{Unsigned|Zyxw59|09:55, 9 July 2009 (MDT)}}&lt;br /&gt;
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::::'''It is still not workable'''. A ranged touch attack, by itself, doesn't tell you its range, among other things. What you NEED to do is go through the pages, pretend you know NOTHING about the classes and you didn't make them, and ''see if there are enough rules written there to '''actually use them'''''. Homeland defense is '''still''' retarded, because at any given point in time a member of my clan somewhere in the world might be attacked and ''how on earth does that work''? Seriously, these are nowhere near SRD level. [[User:Surgo|Surgo]] 14:09, 9 July 2009 (MDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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:::::We have standards on D&amp;amp;D Wiki.  These do not meet them in terms of being usable or not.  As such they got deleted.  If you can fix them in time the deletion is up they will not be deleted.  If not they will be deleted.  --[[User:Green Dragon|Green Dragon]] 17:51, 9 July 2009 (MDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Barnstar the Second ==&lt;br /&gt;
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{{Barnstar|Thanks for making a bot to update all of the breadcrumbs for spells. That saves a lot of manual adjustment (and potential errors caused by manual edits). --[[User:Aarnott|Aarnott]] 22:30, 3 August 2009 (MDT)}}&lt;br /&gt;
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== Gone ==&lt;br /&gt;
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I, along with most of my friends here, have left this wiki due to apparently unresolvable conflict with the administrator to make our own wiki. If you ever need to contact me for some reason, you can email (morgon Dot kanter At gmail Dot com). [[User:Surgo|Surgo]] 08:51, 19 August 2009 (MDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Wikia ==&lt;br /&gt;
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Please do not tell me you deleted wikia's D&amp;amp;D install!  Everyone liked that site as well!  If someone gave you root access to wikia and you deleted their D&amp;amp;D site the whole internet world is going to get '''very''' fucking annoyed with you.&lt;br /&gt;
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Please no.  [http://www.google.com/search?q=wikia+Dungeons+and+Dragons&amp;amp;ie=utf-8&amp;amp;oe=utf-8&amp;amp;aq=t&amp;amp;rls=com.ubuntu:en-US:unofficial&amp;amp;client=firefox-a search criteria].  --[[User:Green Dragon|Green Dragon]] 12:39, 25 August 2009 (MDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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:I cannot find any of the content that was on wikia's dungeons and dragons website anymore.  If you deleted peoples content without any form of permission on wikia because of wrongly given root access the entire internet world will hate you.  All I could find was an archived history of wikia's dungeons and dragons information - [http://www.wikiindex.org/Dungeons_and_Dragons_Wikia].  Other then that I think you may have just shredded wikia's dungeons and dragons section and could be the '''stupidest''' person I have '''ever''' seen or heard from.&lt;br /&gt;
:'''Wikia:''' http://dnd.wikia.com/wiki/Main_Page&lt;br /&gt;
:'''Possible Archive:'''  http://www.wikiindex.org/Dungeons_and_Dragons_Wikia&lt;br /&gt;
:'''Possible Restart:'''  http://dndta.wikia.com/wiki/Dungeons_%26_Dragons_Tiny_Adventures&lt;br /&gt;
:I don't think you understand that people ''worked'' on their content their, the rules were '''different''' their, etc.  --[[User:Green Dragon|Green Dragon]] 13:00, 25 August 2009 (MDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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::I hope you backed it up before you started working their.  I hope you did not shred it.  --[[User:Green Dragon|Green Dragon]] 13:07, 25 August 2009 (MDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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::: Ummm... GD, that's not even their &amp;quot;new&amp;quot; wiki. I don't think Surgo or anyone else from this site has anything to do with that. --[[User:Ghostwheel|Ghostwheel]] 13:09, 25 August 2009 (MDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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:::: I don't get it?  What happened to the DnD wikia?  --[[User:Jay Freedman|Jay Freedman]] 13:11, 25 August 2009 (MDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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:::::Ghost, I think what he means is that all of Wikia is psuedo-linked, and Surgo had needed some additional access/tools to get the new wiki to run the way he needed it to, and may have unknowingly deleted another wikia wiki's information.  Not that I know if that is or not, I just think that is what he means. &amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;lt;small&amp;gt;&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;border: 1px solid black; -moz-border-radius:10px&amp;quot;&amp;gt;[[User:Hooper|'''&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;background-color:White; color:Black; -moz-border-radius-topleft:10px; -moz-border-radius-bottomleft:10px&amp;quot;&amp;gt;  Hooper  &amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;''']][[User talk:Hooper|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;background-color:Black; color:white; -moz-border-radius-bottomleft:10px; -moz-border-radius-topleft:10px&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;amp;nbsp;talk&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]][[Special:Contributions/Hooper|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;background-color:black; color:white&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;amp;nbsp;contribs&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]][[Special:Emailuser/Hooper|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;background-color:black; color:white; -moz-border-radius-bottomright:10px; -moz-border-radius-topright:10px&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;amp;nbsp;email&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]]&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;&amp;lt;/small&amp;gt; 13:27, 25 August 2009 (MDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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{{quote|[[w:Wikipedia:Civility#Engaging in incivility]]. However you are right, you both deserve a warning.|[[User:Green Dragon|Green Dragon]]|orig=[[User_talk:Green_Dragon/Archive_15#Harassment|Green Dragon Talk, Archive 15, Subsection &amp;quot;Harassment&amp;quot;]]}}&lt;br /&gt;
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:::::: Acting as a People's Repesentitive of Law and Order (as laid down by bureaucrat [[User:Green Dragon|Green Dragon]]), I, hereby, warn you, [[User:Green Dragon|Green Dragon]], for your conduct in this section of [[User:Surgo|Surgo]]'s talk page. Let it be known that none think themselves above the rules of site, otherwise it descends into anarchy or worse; despotism! I am sure you will receive this warning with the grace and style you have so accustomed to yourself in your previous actions.&lt;br /&gt;
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:::::: Thank you for your co-operation. --[[User:TK-Squared|TK-Squared]] 13:31, 25 August 2009 (MDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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:::::::TK, good to see you!  Could you place the same warning on GD's talk page for Jota's cursing too please?  Thanks! &amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;lt;small&amp;gt;&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;border: 1px solid black; -moz-border-radius:10px&amp;quot;&amp;gt;[[User:Hooper|'''&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;background-color:White; color:Black; -moz-border-radius-topleft:10px; -moz-border-radius-bottomleft:10px&amp;quot;&amp;gt;  Hooper  &amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;''']][[User talk:Hooper|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;background-color:Black; color:white; -moz-border-radius-bottomleft:10px; -moz-border-radius-topleft:10px&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;amp;nbsp;talk&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]][[Special:Contributions/Hooper|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;background-color:black; color:white&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;amp;nbsp;contribs&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]][[Special:Emailuser/Hooper|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;background-color:black; color:white; -moz-border-radius-bottomright:10px; -moz-border-radius-topright:10px&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;amp;nbsp;email&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]]&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;&amp;lt;/small&amp;gt; 13:33, 25 August 2009 (MDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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:::::::: (Sigh) This warning should go over real well... (Patiently awaiting the public executions to come.)  Haha. Jk.  What up TK!  We love you man.  --[[User:Jay Freedman|Jay Freedman]] 13:56, 25 August 2009 (MDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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:::::::::Their are stupid people in the world...  That's not name calling &amp;amp;mdash; it's brutal honesty.  And [[User:TK-Squared|TK-Squared]] you have zero authority here; do not act like you do.  Also I am pretty positive you deleted the old wikia's D&amp;amp;D wiki.  I have no idea what wikia was thinking to let you have root access to their servers.  I am calling them dumb people as well.  You ruined a wiki in about 10 minutes and you have no regret?  Everyone liked that site as well and all you people can do is bitch at me about it?  Don't just sit around bitching to me about yur petty problems - get back the damn website.  I have had people unrestore shift-deleted things before.  If you did not shred it there is still a chance you can get it back.  Do something!  Don't just mope and gripe to me about your petty authority problems; fix your mistakes.  --[[User:Green Dragon|Green Dragon]] 16:20, 25 August 2009 (MDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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:::::::::: lol wut --[[User:TK-Squared|TK-Squared]] 16:45, 25 August 2009 (MDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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::::::::::: Green Dragon, what are you even talking about? NOBODY here had anything to do with that wiki at all! [[User:Dragon Child|Dragon Child]] 16:46, 25 August 2009 (MDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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:'''What the hell'''? Listen Green Dragon, you fucking moron. While I'd normally be honored to be so vilified by the likes of you, this is just retarded. The last time anyone did anything on that other wiki was in 2007. If you think I somehow &amp;quot;deleted&amp;quot; their wiki (as if that's even possible on wikia), that makes you even dumber than I had originally given you credit for. (And yes, I did think about adopting that one in like with the wikia policy. I decided against it, and instead started my own wiki. Which in one day surpassed their article count by about five-fold.) I have no idea how you even got this stupid idea. [[User:Surgo|Surgo]] 16:58, 25 August 2009 (MDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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::I don't think we should concern ourselves with the two wikis.  Surgo's wiki states on it's main page that it is for Same Game Test material mostly, which will draw a certain demographic.  Ours will draw a different demographic (the material on our site dedicated to SGT and op material is a small percentage, and I'm sure theres will have a small percentage of more core stuff = not enough for either &amp;quot;side&amp;quot; to worry about the other).  If people on one side or the other don't feel like they can help both, then just leave it be.  Everyone is just going to make themselves more upset as they argue. &amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;lt;small&amp;gt;&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;border: 1px solid black; -moz-border-radius:10px&amp;quot;&amp;gt;[[User:Hooper|'''&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;background-color:White; color:Black; -moz-border-radius-topleft:10px; -moz-border-radius-bottomleft:10px&amp;quot;&amp;gt;  Hooper  &amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;''']][[User talk:Hooper|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;background-color:Black; color:white; -moz-border-radius-bottomleft:10px; -moz-border-radius-topleft:10px&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;amp;nbsp;talk&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]][[Special:Contributions/Hooper|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;background-color:black; color:white&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;amp;nbsp;contribs&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]][[Special:Emailuser/Hooper|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;background-color:black; color:white; -moz-border-radius-bottomright:10px; -moz-border-radius-topright:10px&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;amp;nbsp;email&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]]&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;&amp;lt;/small&amp;gt; 18:37, 25 August 2009 (MDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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::: Good advice Hooper.  Of course, a wise sage once said &amp;quot;He who mediates between lions lives short life.&amp;quot;  So while we would like not to worry about wiki wars... (Thats a cool name. Wiki Wars! I love that! Haha! I am so stupid.) ...this will probably continue for some time.  --[[User:Jay Freedman|Jay Freedman]] 18:47, 25 August 2009 (MDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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:::: Hooper, I'm not sure why you insist on misrepresenting me. My wiki does not say that it is mostly for Same Game Test material...at all. It says it's for all material, and anything that doesn't define a balance point is assumed to be Same Game test. I don't know how it can be any more clear than that (which is what it actually says on the front page). Hooper, the only reason I am even posting here is because Green Dragon made some boneheaded accusation he pulled out of his ass. This has nothing to do with &amp;quot;wiki wars&amp;quot; or whatever (unless this is Green Dragon's weird idea of a 'war' or something). [[User:Surgo|Surgo]] 19:04, 25 August 2009 (MDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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:::::Ah, well if something is &amp;quot;assumed to be SGT&amp;quot; instead of assuming it is &amp;quot;core&amp;quot; ''(for lack of a better word)'', I would say that it is just fostering the above kind of thoughts.  People who support the SGT mind frame will be more prone to follow it is all. As I said above, both wikis will have some of each. &amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;lt;small&amp;gt;&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;border: 1px solid black; -moz-border-radius:10px&amp;quot;&amp;gt;[[User:Hooper|'''&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;background-color:White; color:Black; -moz-border-radius-topleft:10px; -moz-border-radius-bottomleft:10px&amp;quot;&amp;gt;  Hooper  &amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;''']][[User talk:Hooper|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;background-color:Black; color:white; -moz-border-radius-bottomleft:10px; -moz-border-radius-topleft:10px&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;amp;nbsp;talk&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]][[Special:Contributions/Hooper|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;background-color:black; color:white&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;amp;nbsp;contribs&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]][[Special:Emailuser/Hooper|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;background-color:black; color:white; -moz-border-radius-bottomright:10px; -moz-border-radius-topright:10px&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;amp;nbsp;email&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]]&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;&amp;lt;/small&amp;gt; 19:09, 25 August 2009 (MDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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::::::The obvious point of contention is that you say SGT and core are not the same; others would argue otherwise. I don't want to turn this discussion into that, but you say po-tay-to, I say po-tah-to. -- [[User:Jota|Jota]] 20:04, 25 August 2009 (MDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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:::::::Does anyone know where all the content on [http://dnd.wikia.com/wiki/Basics_and_Ability_Scores] went?  With the thought in mind of [http://dungeons.wikia.com/wiki/Main_Page] (permissions).  --[[User:Green Dragon|Green Dragon]] 20:44, 25 August 2009 (MDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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::::::::http://dnd.wikia.com/wiki/Special:Contributions/Maunderingcabal  [http://dnd.wikia.com/wiki/Quickling_Runner] [http://dnd.wikia.com/wiki/Guard_Drake] [http://dnd.wikia.com/wiki/Hobgoblin_Warcaster] [http://dnd.wikia.com/wiki/Corruption_Corpse] [http://dnd.wikia.com/wiki/Warforged_Battle_Champion], etc.  --[[User:Green Dragon|Green Dragon]] 20:49, 25 August 2009 (MDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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:::::::::What the hell is your point? How should any of us know where any of their stuff went? I've only looked at that wiki once in my lifetime. [[User:Surgo|Surgo]] 20:51, 25 August 2009 (MDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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::::::::::I'm not Wikia.  I do not know enough in this instance to make a correct judgement.  I am not positive why the content was removed; I am not Wikia.  One would have to look at IP's and permissions on Wikia's backend to get a better judgment.  Who knows; I am not Wikia.  --[[User:Green Dragon|Green Dragon]] 20:59, 25 August 2009 (MDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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:::::::::::I think this is a good example of GD's attitude. As he yells at, makes threats against, and harasses someone who has done nothing wrong, and with no proof to back it up, and instead just throws out random links incoherently. [[User:Dragon Child|Dragon Child]] 20:58, 25 August 2009 (MDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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:::::::::: @GD.  Dude your freakin me out?  Nobody here took their stuff.  That site must just be having problems.  Surgo would probably just base his new wiki off this one anyway.  He wouldn't model his new site of that wikia in a million years.  He would mimic this site and try to improve it, adding &amp;quot;Surgo Flavor&amp;quot; or something.  Nobody I know messed with that empty wikia.  Sorry.  --[[User:Jay Freedman|Jay Freedman]] 21:00, 25 August 2009 (MDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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:::::::::::That's right. You are not Wikia. That means you should not be throwing around wild-ass and incorrect accusations at me. [[User:Surgo|Surgo]] 21:04, 25 August 2009 (MDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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::::::::::::Seriously GD, what the heck are you on about? Given that a lot of us weren't even aware of that site's existence, how do you expect those pages to mean anything to anyone? -- [[User:Jota|Jota]] 21:04, 25 August 2009 (MDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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:::::::::::::Those links you provided don't even have any content missing, as far as I can tell. No other content was added to them besides the picture of the miniature. You're yelling at someone who did nothing over a &amp;quot;crime&amp;quot; that everyone can see doesn't even exist. Perhaps now it's time to call you stupid, and say it's justified, as some people are just stupid? [[User:Dragon Child|Dragon Child]] 21:05, 25 August 2009 (MDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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::What do you mean you have nothing to do with it? You STARTED this discussion, by falsely accusing, nay, OUTRIGHT LYING AND INSULTING SURGO! [[User:Dragon Child|Dragon Child]] 21:39, 25 August 2009 (MDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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:::I asked a question.  --[[User:Green Dragon|Green Dragon]] 21:41, 25 August 2009 (MDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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::::That's pretty funny, because I don't see a question mark in your post. [[User:Surgo|Surgo]] 21:49, 2 September 2009 (MDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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:You guys need to take this discussion (about Wikia's wiki's) onto Wikia's pages. I have nothing to do with it. --[[User:Green Dragon|Green Dragon]] 21:24, 25 August 2009 (MDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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:Perhaps if you feel it is infactual, you should tell me actual percentages of users that have left so it can have the utmost accuracy. After all, looking at your current and former &amp;quot;active users&amp;quot; list, I believe that what I said is entirely factual. So I think you are wrong. [[User:Surgo|Surgo]] 17:24, 3 September 2009 (MDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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::Seriously Hooper? I thought you were a bit more mature than that. --[[User:208.90.100.111|208.90.100.111]] 18:00, 3 September 2009 (MDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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:::I'm being mature, and requesting a not-factually correct statement to be amended by an individual who has proven to value factual statements.  You want the statistics?  Fair enough.  Users who can arguably be said to be officially gone from this wiki to your wiki and who aren't still active on both are  (and please let me know if I miss anyone):  You, TK, Aarnot, Danial Draco, Eiji, Sam Kay, Sabre, Rith, Summerscythe, and Val.  Combined, their edit contributions equal 23,315 edits.  Even if we assume one page count equals one page, that  isn't even half of our pages on the wiki (and that is giving these edits ALOT more credit). Since the timeframe of the split, yours has about roughly 30 active users.  Since the only stat I can provide is the last 500 edits on this wiki, and if we do not count any of the people from your wiki (since their edits were probably related to the split) we have 21 active users - that is less than two days.  If I had a method to show stats - we can follow the same obvious trend and up this number amazingly so. We've also had 128 new users since August 10th - roughly the time of the split give a day or two, of which 56 have been active - and even trimming that to &amp;quot;more active than user page activity&amp;quot; still leaves 27.  Did you take some active users?  Yes.  Some valuable users? Yes.  Most?  No.  Half?   No.  Once again, I appreciated and agreed with your comments during the SGT template discussions for factual accuracy, and I hold you to those standards. &amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;lt;small&amp;gt;&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;border: 1px solid black; -moz-border-radius:10px&amp;quot;&amp;gt;[[User:Hooper|'''&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;background-color:White; color:Black; -moz-border-radius-topleft:10px; -moz-border-radius-bottomleft:10px&amp;quot;&amp;gt;  Hooper  &amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;''']][[User talk:Hooper|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;background-color:Black; color:white; -moz-border-radius-bottomleft:10px; -moz-border-radius-topleft:10px&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;amp;nbsp;talk&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]][[Special:Contributions/Hooper|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;background-color:black; color:white&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;amp;nbsp;contribs&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]][[Special:Emailuser/Hooper|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;background-color:black; color:white; -moz-border-radius-bottomright:10px; -moz-border-radius-topright:10px&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;amp;nbsp;email&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]]&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;&amp;lt;/small&amp;gt; 19:54, 3 September 2009 (MDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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::::Key word is active, not some one-and-done IP addresses. I don't necessarily agree with Surgo's assertion, but I really don't see why Surgo's user page is an issue given anyone can look at the recent activity and judge for themselves. -- [[User:Jota|Jota]] 19:58, 3 September 2009 (MDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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:::::I did miss one person I believe.   Lord Dhazriel.  Even with his edits you still only have 27,889.  Out of '''391,805'''.  True that there is no possibly way to get verifiable stats for say, the last 6 month percentage, but it still isn't close to half. If you want to say &amp;quot;most of the tavern regulars&amp;quot; then you may have some factual truth behind that. &lt;br /&gt;
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::::::You've missed about 10 people in that list. Once again, just compare the former &amp;quot;active users&amp;quot; list to the current one. And never mind the total ridiculous nature of edit count, which means absolutely nothing. And add to that what Jota just said below me...active users, not one-and-done signups. No, I'm thinking my user page is perfectly factual here. Sorry if you're somehow getting some proxy butthurt for Green Dragon over the split or something. [[User:Surgo|Surgo]] 20:03, 3 September 2009 (MDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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::::::: It not about edits, I mean if you count one-time IP and '''bots''' as active users then yes, only a small part of the active userbase left. But they do not, at least to my knowledge, only a few dozen of users actively contributed to this wiki at all time. These were (or are) active users, most IP or registered users only make 1 or 2 edits before leaving the wiki forever. --[[User:Lord Dhazriel|Dhazriel]] 20:04, 3 September 2009 (MDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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::::::::The above counts do not count IPs, except for of course the 391,805 total edits ever to the wiki - no way for me to remove them from the stats page info.  My user list has never been even near full, and is not a reflection of the wiki has a whole.  I have provided stats to prove my point, and you refuse to acknowledge that.  I'll consider the discussion closed then.  The reason it was important is because your user page shows up on this wiki, and it is stating factual incorrectness as to the recruitment from here to your wiki, which looks bad on this wiki.  Good luck with yours, but you shouldn't misrepresent things associated with this one. &amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;lt;small&amp;gt;&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;border: 1px solid black; -moz-border-radius:10px&amp;quot;&amp;gt;[[User:Hooper|'''&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;background-color:White; color:Black; -moz-border-radius-topleft:10px; -moz-border-radius-bottomleft:10px&amp;quot;&amp;gt;  Hooper  &amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;''']][[User talk:Hooper|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;background-color:Black; color:white; -moz-border-radius-bottomleft:10px; -moz-border-radius-topleft:10px&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;amp;nbsp;talk&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]][[Special:Contributions/Hooper|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;background-color:black; color:white&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;amp;nbsp;contribs&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]][[Special:Emailuser/Hooper|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;background-color:black; color:white; -moz-border-radius-bottomright:10px; -moz-border-radius-topright:10px&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;amp;nbsp;email&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]]&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;&amp;lt;/small&amp;gt; 20:10, 3 September 2009 (MDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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:::::::::Perhaps you should learn the meaning of your statistics before you post them. All of those edits could be made by people who have since left years ago. Then a few people remain, and are active with a few hundred edits a piece. Then 3/4ths of them leave. Guess what? The majority of active users ''still left'', even if the people responsible for the majority of edits ''have not technically left with them''. If you're going to throw statistics around, you should at least demonstrate some basic understanding of them. [[User:Surgo|Surgo]] 20:12, 3 September 2009 (MDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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::::::::::Actually, I do understand them, and I provided the only verifiable stats I could - the last 500 counts for just a couple days - which nearly equal your site's number of active users since its inception.  I 'm not going to throw out a number that I can't verify - but using that formula and expanding it to the same time since your site started - we could easilly verify the last month's active users being more.  You must have overlooked that above. &amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;lt;small&amp;gt;&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;border: 1px solid black; -moz-border-radius:10px&amp;quot;&amp;gt;[[User:Hooper|'''&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;background-color:White; color:Black; -moz-border-radius-topleft:10px; -moz-border-radius-bottomleft:10px&amp;quot;&amp;gt;  Hooper  &amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;''']][[User talk:Hooper|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;background-color:Black; color:white; -moz-border-radius-bottomleft:10px; -moz-border-radius-topleft:10px&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;amp;nbsp;talk&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]][[Special:Contributions/Hooper|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;background-color:black; color:white&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;amp;nbsp;contribs&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]][[Special:Emailuser/Hooper|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;background-color:black; color:white; -moz-border-radius-bottomright:10px; -moz-border-radius-topright:10px&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;amp;nbsp;email&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]]&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;&amp;lt;/small&amp;gt; 20:15, 3 September 2009 (MDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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:::::::::::I overlooked nothing, but I thought it was so obvious that it didn't even need saying: how many of those edits are the nonsensical noise between you and Ghostwheel? And how many edits on my site are more than noise? See, reasons like this are why trying to compare penis size, err, edit count, is complete nonsense. [[User:Surgo|Surgo]] 20:20, 3 September 2009 (MDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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::::::::::: Hooper, just... just stop it, eh? As long as it's not offensive, Surgo can (I think?) have just about anything he wants on his user page. He could state the sky was purple. It's not factually true, but he can say whatever he wants. People who want to see for themselves will do a little research. People who don't care won't. But in the end, right now it just looks like you're being stubborn and obstinate for no real reason. --[[User:Ghostwheel|Ghostwheel]] 20:19, 3 September 2009 (MDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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:I was just holding Surgo to the high standard of being  factually correct that he asked of me not long ago, and I am being denied that requests.  That is all.   I'm not demanding it be changed, just asking it be corrected.   He has chosen not to, and  I'll leave it at that. &amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;lt;small&amp;gt;&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;border: 1px solid black; -moz-border-radius:10px&amp;quot;&amp;gt;[[User:Hooper|'''&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;background-color:White; color:Black; -moz-border-radius-topleft:10px; -moz-border-radius-bottomleft:10px&amp;quot;&amp;gt;  Hooper  &amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;''']][[User talk:Hooper|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;background-color:Black; color:white; -moz-border-radius-bottomleft:10px; -moz-border-radius-topleft:10px&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;amp;nbsp;talk&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]][[Special:Contributions/Hooper|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;background-color:black; color:white&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;amp;nbsp;contribs&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]][[Special:Emailuser/Hooper|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;background-color:black; color:white; -moz-border-radius-bottomright:10px; -moz-border-radius-topright:10px&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;amp;nbsp;email&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]]&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;&amp;lt;/small&amp;gt; 20:21, 3 September 2009 (MDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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::If your standard is statistics that don't mean anything, sure. Unfortunately, I'm still being factually correct and you're throwing some half-baked ideas at me that don't say what you're claiming they say. [[User:Surgo|Surgo]] 20:23, 3 September 2009 (MDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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:::No, you are trying to say I'm claiming they say something they don't.  All I did was provide you the only stats even close to relevant to the discussion that are available, and the overwhelming landslide that all those stats show demand a rational mind to acknowledge that they show the proper trend. However, there is no point in pursuing the subject. &amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;lt;small&amp;gt;&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;border: 1px solid black; -moz-border-radius:10px&amp;quot;&amp;gt;[[User:Hooper|'''&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;background-color:White; color:Black; -moz-border-radius-topleft:10px; -moz-border-radius-bottomleft:10px&amp;quot;&amp;gt;  Hooper  &amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;''']][[User talk:Hooper|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;background-color:Black; color:white; -moz-border-radius-bottomleft:10px; -moz-border-radius-topleft:10px&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;amp;nbsp;talk&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]][[Special:Contributions/Hooper|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;background-color:black; color:white&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;amp;nbsp;contribs&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]][[Special:Emailuser/Hooper|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;background-color:black; color:white; -moz-border-radius-bottomright:10px; -moz-border-radius-topright:10px&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;amp;nbsp;email&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]]&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;&amp;lt;/small&amp;gt; 20:26, 3 September 2009 (MDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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::::Did you just miss that whole part where I debunked these statistics above? Okay, whatever you say man. [[User:Surgo|Surgo]] 20:28, 3 September 2009 (MDT)&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
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== Protection for Tome Classes ==&lt;br /&gt;
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I wondered if you want to protect the tome-classes against IP edit. Maybe it would be better?--[[User:Lord Dhazriel|Lord Dhazriel]] 15:21, 27 January 2009 (MST)&lt;br /&gt;
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:I'd be very appreciative, and I'm sure Surgo would be, too. It'd cut back on the amount of edit undoing we'd have to do. What ''is'' it about lately? There's been a bunch of IPs changing random classes and races all over the Wiki... --[[User:Genowhirl|Genowhirl]] 10:15, 28 January 2009 (MST)&lt;br /&gt;
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== For Your Consideration ==&lt;br /&gt;
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I've noticed the ammount of people who have been giving the things made by Frank and K bad ratings before they understood the idea behind the class, and so, have made this template to try and help you guys out:&lt;br /&gt;
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{{Frank and K material}}&lt;br /&gt;
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Hope it helps (also, I officially hand over all rights to this template to you and Genowhirl, since I have no hand in any Frank and K material and don't really know what should or shouldn't go into this template). &amp;amp;rarr; [[User:Rithaniel|&amp;lt;span style=color:Gray; -moz-border-radius-topleft:25px; -moz-border-radius-bottomleft:20px&amp;quot;&amp;gt;Rith&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]]&amp;lt;sup&amp;gt; [[User talk:Rithaniel|&amp;lt;span style=color:black; -moz-border-radius-bottomleft:20px; -moz-border-radius-topleft:20px&amp;quot;&amp;gt;(talk)&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]]&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; 21:45, 14 March 2009 (MDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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:Lol, that is awesome. Thanks dude. [[User:Surgo|Surgo]] 22:00, 14 March 2009 (MDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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::Heh, it's no problem man, just glad I could help. ''':)''' &amp;amp;rarr; [[User:Rithaniel|&amp;lt;span style=color:Gray; -moz-border-radius-topleft:25px; -moz-border-radius-bottomleft:20px&amp;quot;&amp;gt;Rith&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]]&amp;lt;sup&amp;gt; [[User talk:Rithaniel|&amp;lt;span style=color:black; -moz-border-radius-bottomleft:20px; -moz-border-radius-topleft:20px&amp;quot;&amp;gt;(talk)&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]]&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; 01:59, 15 March 2009 (MDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Comment ==&lt;br /&gt;
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Thanks for taking the time to spotlight me in the Tavern. In light of many of the recent discussions going on around the site, I'd much appreciate a more friendly personal approach.  If you don't agree with something I state, that is fine, but please refrain from attacking mine, or anyone elses, intelligence.  Thank you in advance for your cooperation. &amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;lt;small&amp;gt;&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;border: 1px solid blue; -moz-border-radius:10px&amp;quot;&amp;gt;[[User:Hooper|'''&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;background-color:White; color:FireBrick; -moz-border-radius-topleft:10px; -moz-border-radius-bottomleft:10px&amp;quot;&amp;gt;  Hooper  &amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;''']][[User talk:Hooper|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;background-color:red; color:blue; -moz-border-radius-bottomleft:10px; -moz-border-radius-topleft:10px&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;amp;nbsp;talk&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]][[Special:Contributions/Hooper|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;background-color:red; color:blue&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;amp;nbsp;contribs&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]][[Special:Emailuser/Hooper|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;background-color:red; color:blue; -moz-border-radius-bottomright:10px; -moz-border-radius-topright:10px&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;amp;nbsp;email&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]]&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;&amp;lt;/small&amp;gt; 01:18, 15 March 2009 (MDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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:What? Where was I attacking your intelligence? I remember saying you were impervious to logic, for the reason of [[Talk:Incompetent (DnD Flaw)]], which is not the same thing as attacking your intelligence. [[User:Surgo|Surgo]] 01:27, 15 March 2009 (MDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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::Being impervious to logic means one is unaffected or unable to be affected by logic.  This brings up the question of &amp;quot;if one is rude in The Tavern should it count as the same as being rude while editing?&amp;quot;  If so it would almost be as if everyone who uses the tavern would get an instant permanent ban.  Huh.  Personally I say no - when Tavern Admins come around they should just use their own judgement.  And before that time keep it like it is - The Tavern has no effect on the wiki.  --[[User:Green Dragon|Green Dragon]] 09:32, 15 March 2009 (MDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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I don't know what people really wanted for Alchemical Potions so i just made this shinanigan for the peeps. you can make it the way you think it should be. --[[User:D.M.DemonicPanda|D.M.DemonicPanda]] 21:57, 3 April 2009&lt;br /&gt;
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== Apology ==&lt;br /&gt;
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Hey, me again. I just wanted to apologize for calling you a power gamer, in case you didn't see the apology on the [[Talk:Incompetent (DnD Flaw)]] page. I can get quite stubborn sometimes. Sorry!--[[User:Fathirian Hound|Fathirian Hound]] 09:15, 20 March 2009 (MDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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:Don't worry about it, dude. [[User:Surgo|Surgo]] 22:26, 20 March 2009 (MDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Barnstar ==&lt;br /&gt;
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{{Barnstar|Thanks for nominating the [[DnD Flaws|flaws]] with purely roleplaying benefits for deletion, and nominating the unusable [[3.5e Quests|quests]] for deletion.  Thanks for helping out with a little spring cleaning.  --[[User:Green Dragon|Green Dragon]] 04:03, 22 March 2009 (MDT)}}&lt;br /&gt;
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== Adminship ==&lt;br /&gt;
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Welcome to Adminship.  You are now part of &amp;quot;The Face&amp;quot; of D&amp;amp;D Wiki.  Honestly, as you will notice, not much has been changed now that you are an admin.  If anything, I would say more burden is placed on you.  But first, for the the new features and their uses.  You can now delete pages, protect pages, rollback edits, block users and IP's, edit every page, patrol edits, and do a couple more minor things.&lt;br /&gt;
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;What it is:&lt;br /&gt;
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*What deleting pages is, is self explanatory.&lt;br /&gt;
*What protecting pages is, is also pretty self explanatory.&lt;br /&gt;
*Rolling back edits is a method for removing spam.  It is more powerful than the conventional method of undoing edits.  Instead of showing a diff of the edit in question once clicked, it instantly rollsback all the edits by the user or IP in question on a certain page.  For example if I edited my user page and you clicked &amp;quot;rollback&amp;quot; on that edit it would rollback all the edits up to the point where someone else has edited it.  Be careful using this, it can be very helpful but also very harmful.&lt;br /&gt;
*What blocking users and IP's is, is also self explanatory.&lt;br /&gt;
*Editing every page is another self explanatory one.&lt;br /&gt;
*Patrolling edits is a method for keeping [[Special:Recentchanges|RC]] in check, it can be seen once a diff is clicked.  All it does is, once &amp;quot;Mark as Patrolled Edits&amp;quot; is clicked, it marks the edits as patrolled so the edit will no longer show up on [[Special:Recentchanges|RC]] when &amp;quot;Hide Patrolled&amp;quot; is marked.&lt;br /&gt;
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;When or how it should be used&lt;br /&gt;
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*Deleting pages is done through [[:Category:Candidates for Deletion]].&lt;br /&gt;
*Protecting pages has quite a few different times when it should be used.  Pages should be protected according to the author's wishes (with [[Template:Locked Page]] added to the top of the page in question), in case of conflict  (with [[Template:Temp Locked Page]] added to the top of the page in question), in case of [[Help:FAQ#What are OGL, OGC, SRD, and GNU FPL?|OGC]] published materials (with [[Template:OGL Top]] added to the top of the page in question  and [[Template:OGL Bottom]] added to the bottom), or finally if the page is a vital part of D&amp;amp;D Wiki's infrastructure.  If it deals with D&amp;amp;D Wiki's infrastructure it either needs to be be protected from IP edits or all non-sysop edits.  As a rule of thumb pages up to two tiers deep from the [[Main Page]] are normally locked to anyone but sysops and all the others are just protected from IP edits.  For Example [[Dungeons and Dragons]] is protected from all non-sysop edits whereas a deeper in page like [[LA 0 Races]] is only protected from IP edits.  No template has to be added to pages if thay are part of D&amp;amp;D Wiki's organization (even though some do exist like [[Template:Admin Locked Page]])&lt;br /&gt;
*Blocking a user or IP should only be used after an IP or user vandalizes a certain page.  To block someone just click &amp;quot;block&amp;quot; (found either on [[Special:Recentchanges|RC]] or the diff in question) and fill out the corresponding form.  For a typical vandalism attack I normally block the user for two weeks.&lt;br /&gt;
*Editing every page on D&amp;amp;D Wiki mostly means you can now edit the [[SRD:System Reference Document|SRD]] and the [[MSRD:Modern System Reference Document|MSRD]].  Feel free to edit them if you find inaccuracies, and please feel free to help out with [[SRD Talk:System Reference Document#SRD ToDo List]] or [[MSRD Talk:Modern System Reference Document#Tasks]].&lt;br /&gt;
*Patrolling edits should be used when you have looked over an edit and fixed everything that needs to be fixed.   (this includes answering questions, sending MoI's, etc).&lt;br /&gt;
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You have more burden on yourself now that you are an admin because users will be looking at you for editing help, knowledge of D&amp;amp;D, editing guidelines, the standards, etc etc.  It's a bit more work, but I really hope you enjoy being an admin.  --[[User:Green Dragon|Green Dragon]] 13:12, 5 April 2009 (MDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Re: Thank You ==&lt;br /&gt;
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Why you're very welcome, I think I'll enjoy it when the job's done, yes...&lt;br /&gt;
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== AdminBadge ==&lt;br /&gt;
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I'd like to label you as an admin with the &amp;lt;s&amp;gt;&amp;lt;nowiki&amp;gt;[[Template:AdminBadge]]&amp;lt;/nowiki&amp;gt;&amp;lt;/s&amp;gt; on your user page. If you have a reason you don't think you should have the badge or you don't think the badge is a good idea, please discuss it on the badge's [[Template talk:AdminBadge|discussion]]. -[[User:Valentine the Rogue|Valentine the Rogue]] 16:08, 11 April 2009 (MDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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:I'm not going to put it on my page, because I don't want people to treat me differently because I'm an admin. [[User:Surgo|Surgo]] 17:10, 15 April 2009 (MDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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==Adminship==&lt;br /&gt;
Due to my recent illness and moving I've been on very sporadically and as such was not able to comment on your RfA.  However, if I had been able to I would of thrown down a support.  You've done some great things and I especially enjoy the future of your bots. &amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;lt;small&amp;gt;&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;border: 1px solid blue; -moz-border-radius:10px&amp;quot;&amp;gt;[[User:Hooper|'''&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;background-color:White; color:FireBrick; -moz-border-radius-topleft:10px; -moz-border-radius-bottomleft:10px&amp;quot;&amp;gt;  Hooper  &amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;''']][[User talk:Hooper|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;background-color:red; color:blue; -moz-border-radius-bottomleft:10px; -moz-border-radius-topleft:10px&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;amp;nbsp;talk&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]][[Special:Contributions/Hooper|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;background-color:red; color:blue&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;amp;nbsp;contribs&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]][[Special:Emailuser/Hooper|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;background-color:red; color:blue; -moz-border-radius-bottomright:10px; -moz-border-radius-topright:10px&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;amp;nbsp;email&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]]&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;&amp;lt;/small&amp;gt; 10:29, 12 April 2009 (MDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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:Thanks! [[User:Surgo|Surgo]] 17:10, 15 April 2009 (MDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Bot ==&lt;br /&gt;
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[[User:Dmilewski/Wikibot]]&lt;br /&gt;
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From a proper programmer's point of view, the script needs work. From a workhorse point of view, the thing it damned reliable. I usually change the purpose to PRINT to check my work, then run the script as WRITE to save the changes. --[[User:Dmilewski|Dmilewski]] 04:23, 23 April 2009 (MDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Deletion ==&lt;br /&gt;
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On May 12, you deleted two of my classes (Battle Mage and Ulfsark), with the reason for deletion being &amp;quot;Not enough information to be played.  However, both classes were as complete or more complete than any of the SRD classes.[[User:Zyxw59|Zyxw59]] 15:12, 6 July 2009 (MDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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:Don't take my word for it, here they are, temporarily restored: [[Ulfsark (DnD Class)]] and [[Battle Mage (DnD Class)]]. Carry on. --[[User:Ganteka|Ganteka]] 15:27, 6 July 2009 (MDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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::Battle Mage: the mechanics of the blast are never outlined. Ulfsark: There's not enough information to actually ''use'' homeland defense (I'm not sure when it should actually be applied -- something I can't say for any of the SRD classes, which I know exactly how they work). Both classes still have the problem that they're way too weak, though. [[User:Surgo|Surgo]] 22:08, 6 July 2009 (MDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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:::Thanks for the explanation, I will add a description to them.  {{Unsigned|Zyxw59|09:55, 9 July 2009 (MDT)}}&lt;br /&gt;
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::::'''It is still not workable'''. A ranged touch attack, by itself, doesn't tell you its range, among other things. What you NEED to do is go through the pages, pretend you know NOTHING about the classes and you didn't make them, and ''see if there are enough rules written there to '''actually use them'''''. Homeland defense is '''still''' retarded, because at any given point in time a member of my clan somewhere in the world might be attacked and ''how on earth does that work''? Seriously, these are nowhere near SRD level. [[User:Surgo|Surgo]] 14:09, 9 July 2009 (MDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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:::::We have standards on D&amp;amp;D Wiki.  These do not meet them in terms of being usable or not.  As such they got deleted.  If you can fix them in time the deletion is up they will not be deleted.  If not they will be deleted.  --[[User:Green Dragon|Green Dragon]] 17:51, 9 July 2009 (MDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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{{Barnstar|Thanks for making a bot to update all of the breadcrumbs for spells. That saves a lot of manual adjustment (and potential errors caused by manual edits). --[[User:Aarnott|Aarnott]] 22:30, 3 August 2009 (MDT)}}&lt;br /&gt;
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== Gone ==&lt;br /&gt;
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I, along with most of my friends here, have left this wiki due to apparently unresolvable conflict with the administrator to make our own wiki. If you ever need to contact me for some reason, you can email (morgon Dot kanter At gmail Dot com). [[User:Surgo|Surgo]] 08:51, 19 August 2009 (MDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Wikia ==&lt;br /&gt;
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Please do not tell me you deleted wikia's D&amp;amp;D install!  Everyone liked that site as well!  If someone gave you root access to wikia and you deleted their D&amp;amp;D site the whole internet world is going to get '''very''' fucking annoyed with you.&lt;br /&gt;
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Please no.  [http://www.google.com/search?q=wikia+Dungeons+and+Dragons&amp;amp;ie=utf-8&amp;amp;oe=utf-8&amp;amp;aq=t&amp;amp;rls=com.ubuntu:en-US:unofficial&amp;amp;client=firefox-a search criteria].  --[[User:Green Dragon|Green Dragon]] 12:39, 25 August 2009 (MDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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:I cannot find any of the content that was on wikia's dungeons and dragons website anymore.  If you deleted peoples content without any form of permission on wikia because of wrongly given root access the entire internet world will hate you.  All I could find was an archived history of wikia's dungeons and dragons information - [http://www.wikiindex.org/Dungeons_and_Dragons_Wikia].  Other then that I think you may have just shredded wikia's dungeons and dragons section and could be the '''stupidest''' person I have '''ever''' seen or heard from.&lt;br /&gt;
:'''Wikia:''' http://dnd.wikia.com/wiki/Main_Page&lt;br /&gt;
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:I don't think you understand that people ''worked'' on their content their, the rules were '''different''' their, etc.  --[[User:Green Dragon|Green Dragon]] 13:00, 25 August 2009 (MDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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::I hope you backed it up before you started working their.  I hope you did not shred it.  --[[User:Green Dragon|Green Dragon]] 13:07, 25 August 2009 (MDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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::: Ummm... GD, that's not even their &amp;quot;new&amp;quot; wiki. I don't think Surgo or anyone else from this site has anything to do with that. --[[User:Ghostwheel|Ghostwheel]] 13:09, 25 August 2009 (MDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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:::: I don't get it?  What happened to the DnD wikia?  --[[User:Jay Freedman|Jay Freedman]] 13:11, 25 August 2009 (MDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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:::::Ghost, I think what he means is that all of Wikia is psuedo-linked, and Surgo had needed some additional access/tools to get the new wiki to run the way he needed it to, and may have unknowingly deleted another wikia wiki's information.  Not that I know if that is or not, I just think that is what he means. &amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;lt;small&amp;gt;&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;border: 1px solid black; -moz-border-radius:10px&amp;quot;&amp;gt;[[User:Hooper|'''&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;background-color:White; color:Black; -moz-border-radius-topleft:10px; -moz-border-radius-bottomleft:10px&amp;quot;&amp;gt;  Hooper  &amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;''']][[User talk:Hooper|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;background-color:Black; color:white; -moz-border-radius-bottomleft:10px; -moz-border-radius-topleft:10px&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;amp;nbsp;talk&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]][[Special:Contributions/Hooper|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;background-color:black; color:white&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;amp;nbsp;contribs&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]][[Special:Emailuser/Hooper|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;background-color:black; color:white; -moz-border-radius-bottomright:10px; -moz-border-radius-topright:10px&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;amp;nbsp;email&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]]&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;&amp;lt;/small&amp;gt; 13:27, 25 August 2009 (MDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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{{quote|[[w:Wikipedia:Civility#Engaging in incivility]]. However you are right, you both deserve a warning.|[[User:Green Dragon|Green Dragon]]|orig=[[User_talk:Green_Dragon/Archive_15#Harassment|Green Dragon Talk, Archive 15, Subsection &amp;quot;Harassment&amp;quot;]]}}&lt;br /&gt;
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Should fall under those options.|[[User:Green Dragon|Green Dragon]]|orig=[[User_talk:Green_Dragon/Archive_15#Harassment|Green Dragon Talk, Archive 15, Subsection &amp;quot;Harassment&amp;quot;]]}}&lt;br /&gt;
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:::::: Acting as a People's Repesentitive of Law and Order (as laid down by bureaucrat [[User:Green Dragon|Green Dragon]]), I, hereby, warn you, [[User:Green Dragon|Green Dragon]], for your conduct in this section of [[User:Surgo|Surgo]]'s talk page. Let it be known that none think themselves above the rules of site, otherwise it descends into anarchy or worse; despotism! I am sure you will receive this warning with the grace and style you have so accustomed to yourself in your previous actions.&lt;br /&gt;
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:::::: Thank you for your co-operation. --[[User:TK-Squared|TK-Squared]] 13:31, 25 August 2009 (MDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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:::::::TK, good to see you!  Could you place the same warning on GD's talk page for Jota's cursing too please?  Thanks! &amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;lt;small&amp;gt;&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;border: 1px solid black; -moz-border-radius:10px&amp;quot;&amp;gt;[[User:Hooper|'''&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;background-color:White; color:Black; -moz-border-radius-topleft:10px; -moz-border-radius-bottomleft:10px&amp;quot;&amp;gt;  Hooper  &amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;''']][[User talk:Hooper|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;background-color:Black; color:white; -moz-border-radius-bottomleft:10px; -moz-border-radius-topleft:10px&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;amp;nbsp;talk&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]][[Special:Contributions/Hooper|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;background-color:black; color:white&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;amp;nbsp;contribs&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]][[Special:Emailuser/Hooper|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;background-color:black; color:white; -moz-border-radius-bottomright:10px; -moz-border-radius-topright:10px&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;amp;nbsp;email&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]]&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;&amp;lt;/small&amp;gt; 13:33, 25 August 2009 (MDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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:::::::: (Sigh) This warning should go over real well... (Patiently awaiting the public executions to come.)  Haha. Jk.  What up TK!  We love you man.  --[[User:Jay Freedman|Jay Freedman]] 13:56, 25 August 2009 (MDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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:::::::::Their are stupid people in the world...  That's not name calling &amp;amp;mdash; it's brutal honesty.  And [[User:TK-Squared|TK-Squared]] you have zero authority here; do not act like you do.  Also I am pretty positive you deleted the old wikia's D&amp;amp;D wiki.  I have no idea what wikia was thinking to let you have root access to their servers.  I am calling them dumb people as well.  You ruined a wiki in about 10 minutes and you have no regret?  Everyone liked that site as well and all you people can do is bitch at me about it?  Don't just sit around bitching to me about yur petty problems - get back the damn website.  I have had people unrestore shift-deleted things before.  If you did not shred it there is still a chance you can get it back.  Do something!  Don't just mope and gripe to me about your petty authority problems; fix your mistakes.  --[[User:Green Dragon|Green Dragon]] 16:20, 25 August 2009 (MDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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:::::::::: lol wut --[[User:TK-Squared|TK-Squared]] 16:45, 25 August 2009 (MDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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::::::::::: Green Dragon, what are you even talking about? NOBODY here had anything to do with that wiki at all! [[User:Dragon Child|Dragon Child]] 16:46, 25 August 2009 (MDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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:'''What the hell'''? Listen Green Dragon, you fucking moron. While I'd normally be honored to be so vilified by the likes of you, this is just retarded. The last time anyone did anything on that other wiki was in 2007. If you think I somehow &amp;quot;deleted&amp;quot; their wiki (as if that's even possible on wikia), that makes you even dumber than I had originally given you credit for. (And yes, I did think about adopting that one in like with the wikia policy. I decided against it, and instead started my own wiki. Which in one day surpassed their article count by about five-fold.) I have no idea how you even got this stupid idea. [[User:Surgo|Surgo]] 16:58, 25 August 2009 (MDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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::I don't think we should concern ourselves with the two wikis.  Surgo's wiki states on it's main page that it is for Same Game Test material mostly, which will draw a certain demographic.  Ours will draw a different demographic (the material on our site dedicated to SGT and op material is a small percentage, and I'm sure theres will have a small percentage of more core stuff = not enough for either &amp;quot;side&amp;quot; to worry about the other).  If people on one side or the other don't feel like they can help both, then just leave it be.  Everyone is just going to make themselves more upset as they argue. &amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;lt;small&amp;gt;&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;border: 1px solid black; -moz-border-radius:10px&amp;quot;&amp;gt;[[User:Hooper|'''&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;background-color:White; color:Black; -moz-border-radius-topleft:10px; -moz-border-radius-bottomleft:10px&amp;quot;&amp;gt;  Hooper  &amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;''']][[User talk:Hooper|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;background-color:Black; color:white; -moz-border-radius-bottomleft:10px; -moz-border-radius-topleft:10px&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;amp;nbsp;talk&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]][[Special:Contributions/Hooper|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;background-color:black; color:white&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;amp;nbsp;contribs&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]][[Special:Emailuser/Hooper|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;background-color:black; color:white; -moz-border-radius-bottomright:10px; -moz-border-radius-topright:10px&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;amp;nbsp;email&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]]&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;&amp;lt;/small&amp;gt; 18:37, 25 August 2009 (MDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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::: Good advice Hooper.  Of course, a wise sage once said &amp;quot;He who mediates between lions lives short life.&amp;quot;  So while we would like not to worry about wiki wars... (Thats a cool name. Wiki Wars! I love that! Haha! I am so stupid.) ...this will probably continue for some time.  --[[User:Jay Freedman|Jay Freedman]] 18:47, 25 August 2009 (MDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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:::: Hooper, I'm not sure why you insist on misrepresenting me. My wiki does not say that it is mostly for Same Game Test material...at all. It says it's for all material, and anything that doesn't define a balance point is assumed to be Same Game test. I don't know how it can be any more clear than that (which is what it actually says on the front page). Hooper, the only reason I am even posting here is because Green Dragon made some boneheaded accusation he pulled out of his ass. This has nothing to do with &amp;quot;wiki wars&amp;quot; or whatever (unless this is Green Dragon's weird idea of a 'war' or something). [[User:Surgo|Surgo]] 19:04, 25 August 2009 (MDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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:::::Ah, well if something is &amp;quot;assumed to be SGT&amp;quot; instead of assuming it is &amp;quot;core&amp;quot; ''(for lack of a better word)'', I would say that it is just fostering the above kind of thoughts.  People who support the SGT mind frame will be more prone to follow it is all. As I said above, both wikis will have some of each. &amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;lt;small&amp;gt;&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;border: 1px solid black; -moz-border-radius:10px&amp;quot;&amp;gt;[[User:Hooper|'''&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;background-color:White; color:Black; -moz-border-radius-topleft:10px; -moz-border-radius-bottomleft:10px&amp;quot;&amp;gt;  Hooper  &amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;''']][[User talk:Hooper|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;background-color:Black; color:white; -moz-border-radius-bottomleft:10px; -moz-border-radius-topleft:10px&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;amp;nbsp;talk&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]][[Special:Contributions/Hooper|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;background-color:black; color:white&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;amp;nbsp;contribs&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]][[Special:Emailuser/Hooper|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;background-color:black; color:white; -moz-border-radius-bottomright:10px; -moz-border-radius-topright:10px&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;amp;nbsp;email&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]]&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;&amp;lt;/small&amp;gt; 19:09, 25 August 2009 (MDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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::::::The obvious point of contention is that you say SGT and core are not the same; others would argue otherwise. I don't want to turn this discussion into that, but you say po-tay-to, I say po-tah-to. -- [[User:Jota|Jota]] 20:04, 25 August 2009 (MDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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:::::::Does anyone know where all the content on [http://dnd.wikia.com/wiki/Basics_and_Ability_Scores] went?  With the thought in mind of [http://dungeons.wikia.com/wiki/Main_Page] (permissions).  --[[User:Green Dragon|Green Dragon]] 20:44, 25 August 2009 (MDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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::::::::http://dnd.wikia.com/wiki/Special:Contributions/Maunderingcabal  [http://dnd.wikia.com/wiki/Quickling_Runner] [http://dnd.wikia.com/wiki/Guard_Drake] [http://dnd.wikia.com/wiki/Hobgoblin_Warcaster] [http://dnd.wikia.com/wiki/Corruption_Corpse] [http://dnd.wikia.com/wiki/Warforged_Battle_Champion], etc.  --[[User:Green Dragon|Green Dragon]] 20:49, 25 August 2009 (MDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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:::::::::What the hell is your point? How should any of us know where any of their stuff went? I've only looked at that wiki once in my lifetime. [[User:Surgo|Surgo]] 20:51, 25 August 2009 (MDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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::::::::::I'm not Wikia.  I do not know enough in this instance to make a correct judgement.  I am not positive why the content was removed; I am not Wikia.  One would have to look at IP's and permissions on Wikia's backend to get a better judgment.  Who knows; I am not Wikia.  --[[User:Green Dragon|Green Dragon]] 20:59, 25 August 2009 (MDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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:::::::::::I think this is a good example of GD's attitude. As he yells at, makes threats against, and harasses someone who has done nothing wrong, and with no proof to back it up, and instead just throws out random links incoherently. [[User:Dragon Child|Dragon Child]] 20:58, 25 August 2009 (MDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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:::::::::: @GD.  Dude your freakin me out?  Nobody here took their stuff.  That site must just be having problems.  Surgo would probably just base his new wiki off this one anyway.  He wouldn't model his new site of that wikia in a million years.  He would mimic this site and try to improve it, adding &amp;quot;Surgo Flavor&amp;quot; or something.  Nobody I know messed with that empty wikia.  Sorry.  --[[User:Jay Freedman|Jay Freedman]] 21:00, 25 August 2009 (MDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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:::::::::::That's right. You are not Wikia. That means you should not be throwing around wild-ass and incorrect accusations at me. [[User:Surgo|Surgo]] 21:04, 25 August 2009 (MDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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::::::::::::Seriously GD, what the heck are you on about? Given that a lot of us weren't even aware of that site's existence, how do you expect those pages to mean anything to anyone? -- [[User:Jota|Jota]] 21:04, 25 August 2009 (MDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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:::::::::::::Those links you provided don't even have any content missing, as far as I can tell. No other content was added to them besides the picture of the miniature. You're yelling at someone who did nothing over a &amp;quot;crime&amp;quot; that everyone can see doesn't even exist. Perhaps now it's time to call you stupid, and say it's justified, as some people are just stupid? [[User:Dragon Child|Dragon Child]] 21:05, 25 August 2009 (MDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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::What do you mean you have nothing to do with it? You STARTED this discussion, by falsely accusing, nay, OUTRIGHT LYING AND INSULTING SURGO! [[User:Dragon Child|Dragon Child]] 21:39, 25 August 2009 (MDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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:::I asked a question.  --[[User:Green Dragon|Green Dragon]] 21:41, 25 August 2009 (MDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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::::That's pretty funny, because I don't see a question mark in your post. [[User:Surgo|Surgo]] 21:49, 2 September 2009 (MDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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:You guys need to take this discussion (about Wikia's wiki's) onto Wikia's pages. I have nothing to do with it. --[[User:Green Dragon|Green Dragon]] 21:24, 25 August 2009 (MDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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Recently in our discussions on the possibility of having templates on SGT material, you routinely stated that you believe things should state facts.  I agree.  Completely.  I believe your current user page misrepresents the amount of users who left, and should be altered to be more factually correct ''(i.e. &amp;quot;left with some&amp;quot; instead of the incorrect &amp;quot;most&amp;quot;)''. &amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;lt;small&amp;gt;&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;border: 1px solid black; -moz-border-radius:10px&amp;quot;&amp;gt;[[User:Hooper|'''&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;background-color:White; color:Black; -moz-border-radius-topleft:10px; -moz-border-radius-bottomleft:10px&amp;quot;&amp;gt;  Hooper  &amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;''']][[User talk:Hooper|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;background-color:Black; color:white; -moz-border-radius-bottomleft:10px; -moz-border-radius-topleft:10px&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;amp;nbsp;talk&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]][[Special:Contributions/Hooper|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;background-color:black; color:white&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;amp;nbsp;contribs&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]][[Special:Emailuser/Hooper|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;background-color:black; color:white; -moz-border-radius-bottomright:10px; -moz-border-radius-topright:10px&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;amp;nbsp;email&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]]&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;&amp;lt;/small&amp;gt; 14:59, 3 September 2009 (MDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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:Perhaps if you feel it is infactual, you should tell me actual percentages of users that have left so it can have the utmost accuracy. After all, looking at your current and former &amp;quot;active users&amp;quot; list, I believe that what I said is entirely factual. So I think you are wrong. [[User:Surgo|Surgo]] 17:24, 3 September 2009 (MDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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::Seriously Hooper? I thought you were a bit more mature than that. --[[User:208.90.100.111|208.90.100.111]] 18:00, 3 September 2009 (MDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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:::I'm being mature, and requesting a not-factually correct statement to be amended by an individual who has proven to value factual statements.  You want the statistics?  Fair enough.  Users who can arguably be said to be officially gone from this wiki to your wiki and who aren't still active on both are  (and please let me know if I miss anyone):  You, TK, Aarnot, Danial Draco, Eiji, Sam Kay, Sabre, Rith, Summerscythe, and Val.  Combined, their edit contributions equal 23,315 edits.  Even if we assume one page count equals one page, that  isn't even half of our pages on the wiki (and that is giving these edits ALOT more credit). Since the timeframe of the split, yours has about roughly 30 active users.  Since the only stat I can provide is the last 500 edits on this wiki, and if we do not count any of the people from your wiki (since their edits were probably related to the split) we have 21 active users - that is less than two days.  If I had a method to show stats - we can follow the same obvious trend and up this number amazingly so. We've also had 128 new users since August 10th - roughly the time of the split give a day or two, of which 56 have been active - and even trimming that to &amp;quot;more active than user page activity&amp;quot; still leaves 27.  Did you take some active users?  Yes.  Some valuable users? Yes.  Most?  No.  Half?   No.  Once again, I appreciated and agreed with your comments during the SGT template discussions for factual accuracy, and I hold you to those standards. &amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;lt;small&amp;gt;&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;border: 1px solid black; -moz-border-radius:10px&amp;quot;&amp;gt;[[User:Hooper|'''&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;background-color:White; color:Black; -moz-border-radius-topleft:10px; -moz-border-radius-bottomleft:10px&amp;quot;&amp;gt;  Hooper  &amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;''']][[User talk:Hooper|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;background-color:Black; color:white; -moz-border-radius-bottomleft:10px; -moz-border-radius-topleft:10px&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;amp;nbsp;talk&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]][[Special:Contributions/Hooper|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;background-color:black; color:white&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;amp;nbsp;contribs&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]][[Special:Emailuser/Hooper|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;background-color:black; color:white; -moz-border-radius-bottomright:10px; -moz-border-radius-topright:10px&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;amp;nbsp;email&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]]&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;&amp;lt;/small&amp;gt; 19:54, 3 September 2009 (MDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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::::Key word is active, not some one-and-done IP addresses. I don't necessarily agree with Surgo's assertion, but I really don't see why Surgo's user page is an issue given anyone can look at the recent activity and judge for themselves. -- [[User:Jota|Jota]] 19:58, 3 September 2009 (MDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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:::::I did miss one person I believe.   Lord Dhazriel.  Even with his edits you still only have 27,889.  Out of '''391,805'''.  True that there is no possibly way to get verifiable stats for say, the last 6 month percentage, but it still isn't close to half. If you want to say &amp;quot;most of the tavern regulars&amp;quot; then you may have some factual truth behind that. &lt;br /&gt;
:::::@Jota, that isn't counting IP addresses at all, actually.  It is an issue because he is a strong proponent (and rightfully so) of factual correctness. &amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;lt;small&amp;gt;&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;border: 1px solid black; -moz-border-radius:10px&amp;quot;&amp;gt;[[User:Hooper|'''&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;background-color:White; color:Black; -moz-border-radius-topleft:10px; -moz-border-radius-bottomleft:10px&amp;quot;&amp;gt;  Hooper  &amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;''']][[User talk:Hooper|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;background-color:Black; color:white; -moz-border-radius-bottomleft:10px; -moz-border-radius-topleft:10px&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;amp;nbsp;talk&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]][[Special:Contributions/Hooper|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;background-color:black; color:white&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;amp;nbsp;contribs&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]][[Special:Emailuser/Hooper|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;background-color:black; color:white; -moz-border-radius-bottomright:10px; -moz-border-radius-topright:10px&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;amp;nbsp;email&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]]&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;&amp;lt;/small&amp;gt; 20:00, 3 September 2009 (MDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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::::::You've missed about 10 people in that list. Once again, just compare the former &amp;quot;active users&amp;quot; list to the current one. And never mind the total ridiculous nature of edit count, which means absolutely nothing. And add to that what Jota just said below me...active users, not one-and-done signups. No, I'm thinking my user page is perfectly factual here. Sorry if you're somehow getting some proxy butthurt for Green Dragon over the split or something. [[User:Surgo|Surgo]] 20:03, 3 September 2009 (MDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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::::::: It not about edits, I mean if you count one-time IP and '''bots''' as active users then yes, only a small part of the active userbase left. But they do not, at least to my knowledge, only a few dozen of users actively contributed to this wiki at all time. These were (or are) active users, most IP or registered users only make 1 or 2 edits before leaving the wiki forever. --[[User:Lord Dhazriel|Dhazriel]] 20:04, 3 September 2009 (MDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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::::::::The above counts do not count IPs, except for of course the 391,805 total edits ever to the wiki - no way for me to remove them from the stats page info.  My user list has never been even near full, and is not a reflection of the wiki has a whole.  I have provided stats to prove my point, and you refuse to acknowledge that.  I'll consider the discussion closed then.  The reason it was important is because your user page shows up on this wiki, and it is stating factual incorrectness as to the recruitment from here to your wiki, which looks bad on this wiki.  Good luck with yours, but you shouldn't misrepresent things associated with this one. &amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;lt;small&amp;gt;&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;border: 1px solid black; -moz-border-radius:10px&amp;quot;&amp;gt;[[User:Hooper|'''&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;background-color:White; color:Black; -moz-border-radius-topleft:10px; -moz-border-radius-bottomleft:10px&amp;quot;&amp;gt;  Hooper  &amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;''']][[User talk:Hooper|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;background-color:Black; color:white; -moz-border-radius-bottomleft:10px; -moz-border-radius-topleft:10px&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;amp;nbsp;talk&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]][[Special:Contributions/Hooper|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;background-color:black; color:white&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;amp;nbsp;contribs&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]][[Special:Emailuser/Hooper|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;background-color:black; color:white; -moz-border-radius-bottomright:10px; -moz-border-radius-topright:10px&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;amp;nbsp;email&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]]&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;&amp;lt;/small&amp;gt; 20:10, 3 September 2009 (MDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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:::::::::Perhaps you should learn the meaning of your statistics before you post them. All of those edits could be made by people who have since left years ago. Then a few people remain, and are active with a few hundred edits a piece. Then 3/4ths of them leave. Guess what? The majority of active users ''still left'', even if the people responsible for the majority of edits ''have not technically left with them''. If you're going to throw statistics around, you should at least demonstrate some basic understanding of them. [[User:Surgo|Surgo]] 20:12, 3 September 2009 (MDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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::::::::::Actually, I do understand them, and I provided the only verifiable stats I could - the last 500 counts for just a couple days - which nearly equal your site's number of active users since its inception.  I 'm not going to throw out a number that I can't verify - but using that formula and expanding it to the same time since your site started - we could easilly verify the last month's active users being more.  You must have overlooked that above. &amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;lt;small&amp;gt;&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;border: 1px solid black; -moz-border-radius:10px&amp;quot;&amp;gt;[[User:Hooper|'''&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;background-color:White; color:Black; -moz-border-radius-topleft:10px; -moz-border-radius-bottomleft:10px&amp;quot;&amp;gt;  Hooper  &amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;''']][[User talk:Hooper|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;background-color:Black; color:white; -moz-border-radius-bottomleft:10px; -moz-border-radius-topleft:10px&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;amp;nbsp;talk&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]][[Special:Contributions/Hooper|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;background-color:black; color:white&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;amp;nbsp;contribs&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]][[Special:Emailuser/Hooper|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;background-color:black; color:white; -moz-border-radius-bottomright:10px; -moz-border-radius-topright:10px&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;amp;nbsp;email&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]]&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;&amp;lt;/small&amp;gt; 20:15, 3 September 2009 (MDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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:::::::::::I overlooked nothing, but I thought it was so obvious that it didn't even need saying: how many of those edits are the nonsensical noise between you and Ghostwheel? And how many edits on my site are more than noise? See, reasons like this are why trying to compare penis size, err, edit count, is complete nonsense. [[User:Surgo|Surgo]] 20:20, 3 September 2009 (MDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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::::::::::: Hooper, just... just stop it, eh? As long as it's not offensive, Surgo can (I think?) have just about anything he wants on his user page. He could state the sky was purple. It's not factually true, but he can say whatever he wants. People who want to see for themselves will do a little research. People who don't care won't. But in the end, right now it just looks like you're being stubborn and obstinate for no real reason. --[[User:Ghostwheel|Ghostwheel]] 20:19, 3 September 2009 (MDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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:I was just holding Surgo to the high standard of being  factually correct that he asked of me not long ago, and I am being denied that requests.  That is all.   I'm not demanding it be changed, just asking it be corrected.   He has chosen not to, and  I'll leave it at that. &amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;lt;small&amp;gt;&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;border: 1px solid black; -moz-border-radius:10px&amp;quot;&amp;gt;[[User:Hooper|'''&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;background-color:White; color:Black; -moz-border-radius-topleft:10px; -moz-border-radius-bottomleft:10px&amp;quot;&amp;gt;  Hooper  &amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;''']][[User talk:Hooper|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;background-color:Black; color:white; -moz-border-radius-bottomleft:10px; -moz-border-radius-topleft:10px&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;amp;nbsp;talk&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]][[Special:Contributions/Hooper|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;background-color:black; color:white&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;amp;nbsp;contribs&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]][[Special:Emailuser/Hooper|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;background-color:black; color:white; -moz-border-radius-bottomright:10px; -moz-border-radius-topright:10px&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;amp;nbsp;email&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]]&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;&amp;lt;/small&amp;gt; 20:21, 3 September 2009 (MDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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::If your standard is statistics that don't mean anything, sure. Unfortunately, I'm still being factually correct and you're throwing some half-baked ideas at me that don't say what you're claiming they say. [[User:Surgo|Surgo]] 20:23, 3 September 2009 (MDT)&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
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== Protection for Tome Classes ==&lt;br /&gt;
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I wondered if you want to protect the tome-classes against IP edit. Maybe it would be better?--[[User:Lord Dhazriel|Lord Dhazriel]] 15:21, 27 January 2009 (MST)&lt;br /&gt;
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:I'd be very appreciative, and I'm sure Surgo would be, too. It'd cut back on the amount of edit undoing we'd have to do. What ''is'' it about lately? There's been a bunch of IPs changing random classes and races all over the Wiki... --[[User:Genowhirl|Genowhirl]] 10:15, 28 January 2009 (MST)&lt;br /&gt;
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== For Your Consideration ==&lt;br /&gt;
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I've noticed the ammount of people who have been giving the things made by Frank and K bad ratings before they understood the idea behind the class, and so, have made this template to try and help you guys out:&lt;br /&gt;
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{{Frank and K material}}&lt;br /&gt;
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Hope it helps (also, I officially hand over all rights to this template to you and Genowhirl, since I have no hand in any Frank and K material and don't really know what should or shouldn't go into this template). &amp;amp;rarr; [[User:Rithaniel|&amp;lt;span style=color:Gray; -moz-border-radius-topleft:25px; -moz-border-radius-bottomleft:20px&amp;quot;&amp;gt;Rith&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]]&amp;lt;sup&amp;gt; [[User talk:Rithaniel|&amp;lt;span style=color:black; -moz-border-radius-bottomleft:20px; -moz-border-radius-topleft:20px&amp;quot;&amp;gt;(talk)&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]]&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; 21:45, 14 March 2009 (MDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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:Lol, that is awesome. Thanks dude. [[User:Surgo|Surgo]] 22:00, 14 March 2009 (MDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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::Heh, it's no problem man, just glad I could help. ''':)''' &amp;amp;rarr; [[User:Rithaniel|&amp;lt;span style=color:Gray; -moz-border-radius-topleft:25px; -moz-border-radius-bottomleft:20px&amp;quot;&amp;gt;Rith&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]]&amp;lt;sup&amp;gt; [[User talk:Rithaniel|&amp;lt;span style=color:black; -moz-border-radius-bottomleft:20px; -moz-border-radius-topleft:20px&amp;quot;&amp;gt;(talk)&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]]&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; 01:59, 15 March 2009 (MDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Comment ==&lt;br /&gt;
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Thanks for taking the time to spotlight me in the Tavern. In light of many of the recent discussions going on around the site, I'd much appreciate a more friendly personal approach.  If you don't agree with something I state, that is fine, but please refrain from attacking mine, or anyone elses, intelligence.  Thank you in advance for your cooperation. &amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;lt;small&amp;gt;&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;border: 1px solid blue; -moz-border-radius:10px&amp;quot;&amp;gt;[[User:Hooper|'''&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;background-color:White; color:FireBrick; -moz-border-radius-topleft:10px; -moz-border-radius-bottomleft:10px&amp;quot;&amp;gt;  Hooper  &amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;''']][[User talk:Hooper|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;background-color:red; color:blue; -moz-border-radius-bottomleft:10px; -moz-border-radius-topleft:10px&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;amp;nbsp;talk&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]][[Special:Contributions/Hooper|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;background-color:red; color:blue&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;amp;nbsp;contribs&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]][[Special:Emailuser/Hooper|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;background-color:red; color:blue; -moz-border-radius-bottomright:10px; -moz-border-radius-topright:10px&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;amp;nbsp;email&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]]&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;&amp;lt;/small&amp;gt; 01:18, 15 March 2009 (MDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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:What? Where was I attacking your intelligence? I remember saying you were impervious to logic, for the reason of [[Talk:Incompetent (DnD Flaw)]], which is not the same thing as attacking your intelligence. [[User:Surgo|Surgo]] 01:27, 15 March 2009 (MDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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::Being impervious to logic means one is unaffected or unable to be affected by logic.  This brings up the question of &amp;quot;if one is rude in The Tavern should it count as the same as being rude while editing?&amp;quot;  If so it would almost be as if everyone who uses the tavern would get an instant permanent ban.  Huh.  Personally I say no - when Tavern Admins come around they should just use their own judgement.  And before that time keep it like it is - The Tavern has no effect on the wiki.  --[[User:Green Dragon|Green Dragon]] 09:32, 15 March 2009 (MDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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I don't know what people really wanted for Alchemical Potions so i just made this shinanigan for the peeps. you can make it the way you think it should be. --[[User:D.M.DemonicPanda|D.M.DemonicPanda]] 21:57, 3 April 2009&lt;br /&gt;
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''Comment moved to [[Talk:Alchemist (DnD Class)]]..''&lt;br /&gt;
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== Apology ==&lt;br /&gt;
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Hey, me again. I just wanted to apologize for calling you a power gamer, in case you didn't see the apology on the [[Talk:Incompetent (DnD Flaw)]] page. I can get quite stubborn sometimes. Sorry!--[[User:Fathirian Hound|Fathirian Hound]] 09:15, 20 March 2009 (MDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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:Don't worry about it, dude. [[User:Surgo|Surgo]] 22:26, 20 March 2009 (MDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Barnstar ==&lt;br /&gt;
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{{Barnstar|Thanks for nominating the [[DnD Flaws|flaws]] with purely roleplaying benefits for deletion, and nominating the unusable [[3.5e Quests|quests]] for deletion.  Thanks for helping out with a little spring cleaning.  --[[User:Green Dragon|Green Dragon]] 04:03, 22 March 2009 (MDT)}}&lt;br /&gt;
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== Adminship ==&lt;br /&gt;
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Welcome to Adminship.  You are now part of &amp;quot;The Face&amp;quot; of D&amp;amp;D Wiki.  Honestly, as you will notice, not much has been changed now that you are an admin.  If anything, I would say more burden is placed on you.  But first, for the the new features and their uses.  You can now delete pages, protect pages, rollback edits, block users and IP's, edit every page, patrol edits, and do a couple more minor things.&lt;br /&gt;
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;What it is:&lt;br /&gt;
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*What deleting pages is, is self explanatory.&lt;br /&gt;
*What protecting pages is, is also pretty self explanatory.&lt;br /&gt;
*Rolling back edits is a method for removing spam.  It is more powerful than the conventional method of undoing edits.  Instead of showing a diff of the edit in question once clicked, it instantly rollsback all the edits by the user or IP in question on a certain page.  For example if I edited my user page and you clicked &amp;quot;rollback&amp;quot; on that edit it would rollback all the edits up to the point where someone else has edited it.  Be careful using this, it can be very helpful but also very harmful.&lt;br /&gt;
*What blocking users and IP's is, is also self explanatory.&lt;br /&gt;
*Editing every page is another self explanatory one.&lt;br /&gt;
*Patrolling edits is a method for keeping [[Special:Recentchanges|RC]] in check, it can be seen once a diff is clicked.  All it does is, once &amp;quot;Mark as Patrolled Edits&amp;quot; is clicked, it marks the edits as patrolled so the edit will no longer show up on [[Special:Recentchanges|RC]] when &amp;quot;Hide Patrolled&amp;quot; is marked.&lt;br /&gt;
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;When or how it should be used&lt;br /&gt;
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*Deleting pages is done through [[:Category:Candidates for Deletion]].&lt;br /&gt;
*Protecting pages has quite a few different times when it should be used.  Pages should be protected according to the author's wishes (with [[Template:Locked Page]] added to the top of the page in question), in case of conflict  (with [[Template:Temp Locked Page]] added to the top of the page in question), in case of [[Help:FAQ#What are OGL, OGC, SRD, and GNU FPL?|OGC]] published materials (with [[Template:OGL Top]] added to the top of the page in question  and [[Template:OGL Bottom]] added to the bottom), or finally if the page is a vital part of D&amp;amp;D Wiki's infrastructure.  If it deals with D&amp;amp;D Wiki's infrastructure it either needs to be be protected from IP edits or all non-sysop edits.  As a rule of thumb pages up to two tiers deep from the [[Main Page]] are normally locked to anyone but sysops and all the others are just protected from IP edits.  For Example [[Dungeons and Dragons]] is protected from all non-sysop edits whereas a deeper in page like [[LA 0 Races]] is only protected from IP edits.  No template has to be added to pages if thay are part of D&amp;amp;D Wiki's organization (even though some do exist like [[Template:Admin Locked Page]])&lt;br /&gt;
*Blocking a user or IP should only be used after an IP or user vandalizes a certain page.  To block someone just click &amp;quot;block&amp;quot; (found either on [[Special:Recentchanges|RC]] or the diff in question) and fill out the corresponding form.  For a typical vandalism attack I normally block the user for two weeks.&lt;br /&gt;
*Editing every page on D&amp;amp;D Wiki mostly means you can now edit the [[SRD:System Reference Document|SRD]] and the [[MSRD:Modern System Reference Document|MSRD]].  Feel free to edit them if you find inaccuracies, and please feel free to help out with [[SRD Talk:System Reference Document#SRD ToDo List]] or [[MSRD Talk:Modern System Reference Document#Tasks]].&lt;br /&gt;
*Patrolling edits should be used when you have looked over an edit and fixed everything that needs to be fixed.   (this includes answering questions, sending MoI's, etc).&lt;br /&gt;
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You have more burden on yourself now that you are an admin because users will be looking at you for editing help, knowledge of D&amp;amp;D, editing guidelines, the standards, etc etc.  It's a bit more work, but I really hope you enjoy being an admin.  --[[User:Green Dragon|Green Dragon]] 13:12, 5 April 2009 (MDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Re: Thank You ==&lt;br /&gt;
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Why you're very welcome, I think I'll enjoy it when the job's done, yes...&lt;br /&gt;
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== AdminBadge ==&lt;br /&gt;
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I'd like to label you as an admin with the &amp;lt;s&amp;gt;&amp;lt;nowiki&amp;gt;[[Template:AdminBadge]]&amp;lt;/nowiki&amp;gt;&amp;lt;/s&amp;gt; on your user page. If you have a reason you don't think you should have the badge or you don't think the badge is a good idea, please discuss it on the badge's [[Template talk:AdminBadge|discussion]]. -[[User:Valentine the Rogue|Valentine the Rogue]] 16:08, 11 April 2009 (MDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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:I'm not going to put it on my page, because I don't want people to treat me differently because I'm an admin. [[User:Surgo|Surgo]] 17:10, 15 April 2009 (MDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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==Adminship==&lt;br /&gt;
Due to my recent illness and moving I've been on very sporadically and as such was not able to comment on your RfA.  However, if I had been able to I would of thrown down a support.  You've done some great things and I especially enjoy the future of your bots. &amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;lt;small&amp;gt;&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;border: 1px solid blue; -moz-border-radius:10px&amp;quot;&amp;gt;[[User:Hooper|'''&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;background-color:White; color:FireBrick; -moz-border-radius-topleft:10px; -moz-border-radius-bottomleft:10px&amp;quot;&amp;gt;  Hooper  &amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;''']][[User talk:Hooper|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;background-color:red; color:blue; -moz-border-radius-bottomleft:10px; -moz-border-radius-topleft:10px&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;amp;nbsp;talk&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]][[Special:Contributions/Hooper|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;background-color:red; color:blue&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;amp;nbsp;contribs&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]][[Special:Emailuser/Hooper|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;background-color:red; color:blue; -moz-border-radius-bottomright:10px; -moz-border-radius-topright:10px&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;amp;nbsp;email&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]]&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;&amp;lt;/small&amp;gt; 10:29, 12 April 2009 (MDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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:Thanks! [[User:Surgo|Surgo]] 17:10, 15 April 2009 (MDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Bot ==&lt;br /&gt;
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[[User:Dmilewski/Wikibot]]&lt;br /&gt;
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From a proper programmer's point of view, the script needs work. From a workhorse point of view, the thing it damned reliable. I usually change the purpose to PRINT to check my work, then run the script as WRITE to save the changes. --[[User:Dmilewski|Dmilewski]] 04:23, 23 April 2009 (MDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Deletion ==&lt;br /&gt;
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On May 12, you deleted two of my classes (Battle Mage and Ulfsark), with the reason for deletion being &amp;quot;Not enough information to be played.  However, both classes were as complete or more complete than any of the SRD classes.[[User:Zyxw59|Zyxw59]] 15:12, 6 July 2009 (MDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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:Don't take my word for it, here they are, temporarily restored: [[Ulfsark (DnD Class)]] and [[Battle Mage (DnD Class)]]. Carry on. --[[User:Ganteka|Ganteka]] 15:27, 6 July 2009 (MDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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::Battle Mage: the mechanics of the blast are never outlined. Ulfsark: There's not enough information to actually ''use'' homeland defense (I'm not sure when it should actually be applied -- something I can't say for any of the SRD classes, which I know exactly how they work). Both classes still have the problem that they're way too weak, though. [[User:Surgo|Surgo]] 22:08, 6 July 2009 (MDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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::::'''It is still not workable'''. A ranged touch attack, by itself, doesn't tell you its range, among other things. What you NEED to do is go through the pages, pretend you know NOTHING about the classes and you didn't make them, and ''see if there are enough rules written there to '''actually use them'''''. Homeland defense is '''still''' retarded, because at any given point in time a member of my clan somewhere in the world might be attacked and ''how on earth does that work''? Seriously, these are nowhere near SRD level. [[User:Surgo|Surgo]] 14:09, 9 July 2009 (MDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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:::::We have standards on D&amp;amp;D Wiki.  These do not meet them in terms of being usable or not.  As such they got deleted.  If you can fix them in time the deletion is up they will not be deleted.  If not they will be deleted.  --[[User:Green Dragon|Green Dragon]] 17:51, 9 July 2009 (MDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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{{Barnstar|Thanks for making a bot to update all of the breadcrumbs for spells. That saves a lot of manual adjustment (and potential errors caused by manual edits). --[[User:Aarnott|Aarnott]] 22:30, 3 August 2009 (MDT)}}&lt;br /&gt;
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== Gone ==&lt;br /&gt;
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I, along with most of my friends here, have left this wiki due to apparently unresolvable conflict with the administrator to make our own wiki. If you ever need to contact me for some reason, you can email (morgon Dot kanter At gmail Dot com). [[User:Surgo|Surgo]] 08:51, 19 August 2009 (MDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Wikia ==&lt;br /&gt;
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Please do not tell me you deleted wikia's D&amp;amp;D install!  Everyone liked that site as well!  If someone gave you root access to wikia and you deleted their D&amp;amp;D site the whole internet world is going to get '''very''' fucking annoyed with you.&lt;br /&gt;
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Please no.  [http://www.google.com/search?q=wikia+Dungeons+and+Dragons&amp;amp;ie=utf-8&amp;amp;oe=utf-8&amp;amp;aq=t&amp;amp;rls=com.ubuntu:en-US:unofficial&amp;amp;client=firefox-a search criteria].  --[[User:Green Dragon|Green Dragon]] 12:39, 25 August 2009 (MDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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:I cannot find any of the content that was on wikia's dungeons and dragons website anymore.  If you deleted peoples content without any form of permission on wikia because of wrongly given root access the entire internet world will hate you.  All I could find was an archived history of wikia's dungeons and dragons information - [http://www.wikiindex.org/Dungeons_and_Dragons_Wikia].  Other then that I think you may have just shredded wikia's dungeons and dragons section and could be the '''stupidest''' person I have '''ever''' seen or heard from.&lt;br /&gt;
:'''Wikia:''' http://dnd.wikia.com/wiki/Main_Page&lt;br /&gt;
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:I don't think you understand that people ''worked'' on their content their, the rules were '''different''' their, etc.  --[[User:Green Dragon|Green Dragon]] 13:00, 25 August 2009 (MDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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::I hope you backed it up before you started working their.  I hope you did not shred it.  --[[User:Green Dragon|Green Dragon]] 13:07, 25 August 2009 (MDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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::: Ummm... GD, that's not even their &amp;quot;new&amp;quot; wiki. I don't think Surgo or anyone else from this site has anything to do with that. --[[User:Ghostwheel|Ghostwheel]] 13:09, 25 August 2009 (MDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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:::: I don't get it?  What happened to the DnD wikia?  --[[User:Jay Freedman|Jay Freedman]] 13:11, 25 August 2009 (MDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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:::::Ghost, I think what he means is that all of Wikia is psuedo-linked, and Surgo had needed some additional access/tools to get the new wiki to run the way he needed it to, and may have unknowingly deleted another wikia wiki's information.  Not that I know if that is or not, I just think that is what he means. &amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;lt;small&amp;gt;&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;border: 1px solid black; -moz-border-radius:10px&amp;quot;&amp;gt;[[User:Hooper|'''&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;background-color:White; color:Black; -moz-border-radius-topleft:10px; -moz-border-radius-bottomleft:10px&amp;quot;&amp;gt;  Hooper  &amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;''']][[User talk:Hooper|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;background-color:Black; color:white; -moz-border-radius-bottomleft:10px; -moz-border-radius-topleft:10px&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;amp;nbsp;talk&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]][[Special:Contributions/Hooper|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;background-color:black; color:white&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;amp;nbsp;contribs&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]][[Special:Emailuser/Hooper|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;background-color:black; color:white; -moz-border-radius-bottomright:10px; -moz-border-radius-topright:10px&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;amp;nbsp;email&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]]&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;&amp;lt;/small&amp;gt; 13:27, 25 August 2009 (MDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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{{quote|[[Meta Pages#Policies]]; swearing is a violation of our policies.|[[User:Green Dragon|Green Dragon]]|orig=[[User_talk:Green_Dragon/Archive_15#Harassment|Green Dragon Talk, Archive 15, Subsection &amp;quot;Harassment&amp;quot;]]}}&lt;br /&gt;
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{{quote|[[w:Wikipedia:Civility#Engaging in incivility]]. However you are right, you both deserve a warning.|[[User:Green Dragon|Green Dragon]]|orig=[[User_talk:Green_Dragon/Archive_15#Harassment|Green Dragon Talk, Archive 15, Subsection &amp;quot;Harassment&amp;quot;]]}}&lt;br /&gt;
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{{quote|What does &amp;quot;gross civility&amp;quot; even mean to you[Sic]? ...|[[User:Dragon Child|Dragon Child]]|orig=[[User_talk:Green_Dragon/Archive_15#Harassment|Green Dragon Talk, Archive 15, Subsection &amp;quot;Harassment&amp;quot;]]}}&lt;br /&gt;
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Should fall under those options.|[[User:Green Dragon|Green Dragon]]|orig=[[User_talk:Green_Dragon/Archive_15#Harassment|Green Dragon Talk, Archive 15, Subsection &amp;quot;Harassment&amp;quot;]]}}&lt;br /&gt;
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:::::: Acting as a People's Repesentitive of Law and Order (as laid down by bureaucrat [[User:Green Dragon|Green Dragon]]), I, hereby, warn you, [[User:Green Dragon|Green Dragon]], for your conduct in this section of [[User:Surgo|Surgo]]'s talk page. Let it be known that none think themselves above the rules of site, otherwise it descends into anarchy or worse; despotism! I am sure you will receive this warning with the grace and style you have so accustomed to yourself in your previous actions.&lt;br /&gt;
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:::::: Thank you for your co-operation. --[[User:TK-Squared|TK-Squared]] 13:31, 25 August 2009 (MDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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:::::::TK, good to see you!  Could you place the same warning on GD's talk page for Jota's cursing too please?  Thanks! &amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;lt;small&amp;gt;&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;border: 1px solid black; -moz-border-radius:10px&amp;quot;&amp;gt;[[User:Hooper|'''&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;background-color:White; color:Black; -moz-border-radius-topleft:10px; -moz-border-radius-bottomleft:10px&amp;quot;&amp;gt;  Hooper  &amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;''']][[User talk:Hooper|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;background-color:Black; color:white; -moz-border-radius-bottomleft:10px; -moz-border-radius-topleft:10px&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;amp;nbsp;talk&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]][[Special:Contributions/Hooper|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;background-color:black; color:white&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;amp;nbsp;contribs&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]][[Special:Emailuser/Hooper|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;background-color:black; color:white; -moz-border-radius-bottomright:10px; -moz-border-radius-topright:10px&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;amp;nbsp;email&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]]&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;&amp;lt;/small&amp;gt; 13:33, 25 August 2009 (MDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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:::::::: (Sigh) This warning should go over real well... (Patiently awaiting the public executions to come.)  Haha. Jk.  What up TK!  We love you man.  --[[User:Jay Freedman|Jay Freedman]] 13:56, 25 August 2009 (MDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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:::::::::Their are stupid people in the world...  That's not name calling &amp;amp;mdash; it's brutal honesty.  And [[User:TK-Squared|TK-Squared]] you have zero authority here; do not act like you do.  Also I am pretty positive you deleted the old wikia's D&amp;amp;D wiki.  I have no idea what wikia was thinking to let you have root access to their servers.  I am calling them dumb people as well.  You ruined a wiki in about 10 minutes and you have no regret?  Everyone liked that site as well and all you people can do is bitch at me about it?  Don't just sit around bitching to me about yur petty problems - get back the damn website.  I have had people unrestore shift-deleted things before.  If you did not shred it there is still a chance you can get it back.  Do something!  Don't just mope and gripe to me about your petty authority problems; fix your mistakes.  --[[User:Green Dragon|Green Dragon]] 16:20, 25 August 2009 (MDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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:::::::::: lol wut --[[User:TK-Squared|TK-Squared]] 16:45, 25 August 2009 (MDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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::::::::::: Green Dragon, what are you even talking about? NOBODY here had anything to do with that wiki at all! [[User:Dragon Child|Dragon Child]] 16:46, 25 August 2009 (MDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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:'''What the hell'''? Listen Green Dragon, you fucking moron. While I'd normally be honored to be so vilified by the likes of you, this is just retarded. The last time anyone did anything on that other wiki was in 2007. If you think I somehow &amp;quot;deleted&amp;quot; their wiki (as if that's even possible on wikia), that makes you even dumber than I had originally given you credit for. (And yes, I did think about adopting that one in like with the wikia policy. I decided against it, and instead started my own wiki. Which in one day surpassed their article count by about five-fold.) I have no idea how you even got this stupid idea. [[User:Surgo|Surgo]] 16:58, 25 August 2009 (MDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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::I don't think we should concern ourselves with the two wikis.  Surgo's wiki states on it's main page that it is for Same Game Test material mostly, which will draw a certain demographic.  Ours will draw a different demographic (the material on our site dedicated to SGT and op material is a small percentage, and I'm sure theres will have a small percentage of more core stuff = not enough for either &amp;quot;side&amp;quot; to worry about the other).  If people on one side or the other don't feel like they can help both, then just leave it be.  Everyone is just going to make themselves more upset as they argue. &amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;lt;small&amp;gt;&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;border: 1px solid black; -moz-border-radius:10px&amp;quot;&amp;gt;[[User:Hooper|'''&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;background-color:White; color:Black; -moz-border-radius-topleft:10px; -moz-border-radius-bottomleft:10px&amp;quot;&amp;gt;  Hooper  &amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;''']][[User talk:Hooper|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;background-color:Black; color:white; -moz-border-radius-bottomleft:10px; -moz-border-radius-topleft:10px&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;amp;nbsp;talk&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]][[Special:Contributions/Hooper|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;background-color:black; color:white&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;amp;nbsp;contribs&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]][[Special:Emailuser/Hooper|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;background-color:black; color:white; -moz-border-radius-bottomright:10px; -moz-border-radius-topright:10px&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;amp;nbsp;email&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]]&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;&amp;lt;/small&amp;gt; 18:37, 25 August 2009 (MDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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::: Good advice Hooper.  Of course, a wise sage once said &amp;quot;He who mediates between lions lives short life.&amp;quot;  So while we would like not to worry about wiki wars... (Thats a cool name. Wiki Wars! I love that! Haha! I am so stupid.) ...this will probably continue for some time.  --[[User:Jay Freedman|Jay Freedman]] 18:47, 25 August 2009 (MDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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:::: Hooper, I'm not sure why you insist on misrepresenting me. My wiki does not say that it is mostly for Same Game Test material...at all. It says it's for all material, and anything that doesn't define a balance point is assumed to be Same Game test. I don't know how it can be any more clear than that (which is what it actually says on the front page). Hooper, the only reason I am even posting here is because Green Dragon made some boneheaded accusation he pulled out of his ass. This has nothing to do with &amp;quot;wiki wars&amp;quot; or whatever (unless this is Green Dragon's weird idea of a 'war' or something). [[User:Surgo|Surgo]] 19:04, 25 August 2009 (MDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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:::::Ah, well if something is &amp;quot;assumed to be SGT&amp;quot; instead of assuming it is &amp;quot;core&amp;quot; ''(for lack of a better word)'', I would say that it is just fostering the above kind of thoughts.  People who support the SGT mind frame will be more prone to follow it is all. As I said above, both wikis will have some of each. &amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;lt;small&amp;gt;&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;border: 1px solid black; -moz-border-radius:10px&amp;quot;&amp;gt;[[User:Hooper|'''&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;background-color:White; color:Black; -moz-border-radius-topleft:10px; -moz-border-radius-bottomleft:10px&amp;quot;&amp;gt;  Hooper  &amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;''']][[User talk:Hooper|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;background-color:Black; color:white; -moz-border-radius-bottomleft:10px; -moz-border-radius-topleft:10px&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;amp;nbsp;talk&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]][[Special:Contributions/Hooper|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;background-color:black; color:white&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;amp;nbsp;contribs&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]][[Special:Emailuser/Hooper|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;background-color:black; color:white; -moz-border-radius-bottomright:10px; -moz-border-radius-topright:10px&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;amp;nbsp;email&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]]&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;&amp;lt;/small&amp;gt; 19:09, 25 August 2009 (MDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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::::::The obvious point of contention is that you say SGT and core are not the same; others would argue otherwise. I don't want to turn this discussion into that, but you say po-tay-to, I say po-tah-to. -- [[User:Jota|Jota]] 20:04, 25 August 2009 (MDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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:::::::Does anyone know where all the content on [http://dnd.wikia.com/wiki/Basics_and_Ability_Scores] went?  With the thought in mind of [http://dungeons.wikia.com/wiki/Main_Page] (permissions).  --[[User:Green Dragon|Green Dragon]] 20:44, 25 August 2009 (MDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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::::::::http://dnd.wikia.com/wiki/Special:Contributions/Maunderingcabal  [http://dnd.wikia.com/wiki/Quickling_Runner] [http://dnd.wikia.com/wiki/Guard_Drake] [http://dnd.wikia.com/wiki/Hobgoblin_Warcaster] [http://dnd.wikia.com/wiki/Corruption_Corpse] [http://dnd.wikia.com/wiki/Warforged_Battle_Champion], etc.  --[[User:Green Dragon|Green Dragon]] 20:49, 25 August 2009 (MDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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:::::::::What the hell is your point? How should any of us know where any of their stuff went? I've only looked at that wiki once in my lifetime. [[User:Surgo|Surgo]] 20:51, 25 August 2009 (MDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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::::::::::I'm not Wikia.  I do not know enough in this instance to make a correct judgement.  I am not positive why the content was removed; I am not Wikia.  One would have to look at IP's and permissions on Wikia's backend to get a better judgment.  Who knows; I am not Wikia.  --[[User:Green Dragon|Green Dragon]] 20:59, 25 August 2009 (MDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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:::::::::::I think this is a good example of GD's attitude. As he yells at, makes threats against, and harasses someone who has done nothing wrong, and with no proof to back it up, and instead just throws out random links incoherently. [[User:Dragon Child|Dragon Child]] 20:58, 25 August 2009 (MDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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:::::::::: @GD.  Dude your freakin me out?  Nobody here took their stuff.  That site must just be having problems.  Surgo would probably just base his new wiki off this one anyway.  He wouldn't model his new site of that wikia in a million years.  He would mimic this site and try to improve it, adding &amp;quot;Surgo Flavor&amp;quot; or something.  Nobody I know messed with that empty wikia.  Sorry.  --[[User:Jay Freedman|Jay Freedman]] 21:00, 25 August 2009 (MDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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:::::::::::That's right. You are not Wikia. That means you should not be throwing around wild-ass and incorrect accusations at me. [[User:Surgo|Surgo]] 21:04, 25 August 2009 (MDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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::::::::::::Seriously GD, what the heck are you on about? Given that a lot of us weren't even aware of that site's existence, how do you expect those pages to mean anything to anyone? -- [[User:Jota|Jota]] 21:04, 25 August 2009 (MDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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:::::::::::::Those links you provided don't even have any content missing, as far as I can tell. No other content was added to them besides the picture of the miniature. You're yelling at someone who did nothing over a &amp;quot;crime&amp;quot; that everyone can see doesn't even exist. Perhaps now it's time to call you stupid, and say it's justified, as some people are just stupid? [[User:Dragon Child|Dragon Child]] 21:05, 25 August 2009 (MDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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::What do you mean you have nothing to do with it? You STARTED this discussion, by falsely accusing, nay, OUTRIGHT LYING AND INSULTING SURGO! [[User:Dragon Child|Dragon Child]] 21:39, 25 August 2009 (MDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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:::I asked a question.  --[[User:Green Dragon|Green Dragon]] 21:41, 25 August 2009 (MDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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::::That's pretty funny, because I don't see a question mark in your post. [[User:Surgo|Surgo]] 21:49, 2 September 2009 (MDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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:You guys need to take this discussion (about Wikia's wiki's) onto Wikia's pages. I have nothing to do with it. --[[User:Green Dragon|Green Dragon]] 21:24, 25 August 2009 (MDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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Recently in our discussions on the possibility of having templates on SGT material, you routinely stated that you believe things should state facts.  I agree.  Completely.  I believe your current user page misrepresents the amount of users who left, and should be altered to be more factually correct ''(i.e. &amp;quot;left with some&amp;quot; instead of the incorrect &amp;quot;most&amp;quot;)''. &amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;lt;small&amp;gt;&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;border: 1px solid black; -moz-border-radius:10px&amp;quot;&amp;gt;[[User:Hooper|'''&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;background-color:White; color:Black; -moz-border-radius-topleft:10px; -moz-border-radius-bottomleft:10px&amp;quot;&amp;gt;  Hooper  &amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;''']][[User talk:Hooper|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;background-color:Black; color:white; -moz-border-radius-bottomleft:10px; -moz-border-radius-topleft:10px&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;amp;nbsp;talk&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]][[Special:Contributions/Hooper|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;background-color:black; color:white&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;amp;nbsp;contribs&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]][[Special:Emailuser/Hooper|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;background-color:black; color:white; -moz-border-radius-bottomright:10px; -moz-border-radius-topright:10px&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;amp;nbsp;email&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]]&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;&amp;lt;/small&amp;gt; 14:59, 3 September 2009 (MDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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:Perhaps if you feel it is infactual, you should tell me actual percentages of users that have left so it can have the utmost accuracy. After all, looking at your current and former &amp;quot;active users&amp;quot; list, I believe that what I said is entirely factual. So I think you are wrong. [[User:Surgo|Surgo]] 17:24, 3 September 2009 (MDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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::Seriously Hooper? I thought you were a bit more mature than that. --[[User:208.90.100.111|208.90.100.111]] 18:00, 3 September 2009 (MDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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:::I'm being mature, and requesting a not-factually correct statement to be amended by an individual who has proven to value factual statements.  You want the statistics?  Fair enough.  Users who can arguably be said to be officially gone from this wiki to your wiki and who aren't still active on both are  (and please let me know if I miss anyone):  You, TK, Aarnot, Danial Draco, Eiji, Sam Kay, Sabre, Rith, Summerscythe, and Val.  Combined, their edit contributions equal 23,315 edits.  Even if we assume one page count equals one page, that  isn't even half of our pages on the wiki (and that is giving these edits ALOT more credit). Since the timeframe of the split, yours has about roughly 30 active users.  Since the only stat I can provide is the last 500 edits on this wiki, and if we do not count any of the people from your wiki (since their edits were probably related to the split) we have 21 active users - that is less than two days.  If I had a method to show stats - we can follow the same obvious trend and up this number amazingly so. We've also had 128 new users since August 10th - roughly the time of the split give a day or two, of which 56 have been active - and even trimming that to &amp;quot;more active than user page activity&amp;quot; still leaves 27.  Did you take some active users?  Yes.  Some valuable users? Yes.  Most?  No.  Half?   No.  Once again, I appreciated and agreed with your comments during the SGT template discussions for factual accuracy, and I hold you to those standards. &amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;lt;small&amp;gt;&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;border: 1px solid black; -moz-border-radius:10px&amp;quot;&amp;gt;[[User:Hooper|'''&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;background-color:White; color:Black; -moz-border-radius-topleft:10px; -moz-border-radius-bottomleft:10px&amp;quot;&amp;gt;  Hooper  &amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;''']][[User talk:Hooper|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;background-color:Black; color:white; -moz-border-radius-bottomleft:10px; -moz-border-radius-topleft:10px&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;amp;nbsp;talk&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]][[Special:Contributions/Hooper|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;background-color:black; color:white&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;amp;nbsp;contribs&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]][[Special:Emailuser/Hooper|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;background-color:black; color:white; -moz-border-radius-bottomright:10px; -moz-border-radius-topright:10px&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;amp;nbsp;email&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]]&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;&amp;lt;/small&amp;gt; 19:54, 3 September 2009 (MDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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::::Key word is active, not some one-and-done IP addresses. I don't necessarily agree with Surgo's assertion, but I really don't see why Surgo's user page is an issue given anyone can look at the recent activity and judge for themselves. -- [[User:Jota|Jota]] 19:58, 3 September 2009 (MDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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:::::I did miss one person I believe.   Lord Dhazriel.  Even with his edits you still only have 27,889.  Out of '''391,805'''.  True that there is no possibly way to get verifiable stats for say, the last 6 month percentage, but it still isn't close to half. If you want to say &amp;quot;most of the tavern regulars&amp;quot; then you may have some factual truth behind that. &lt;br /&gt;
:::::@Jota, that isn't counting IP addresses at all, actually.  It is an issue because he is a strong proponent (and rightfully so) of factual correctness. &amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;lt;small&amp;gt;&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;border: 1px solid black; -moz-border-radius:10px&amp;quot;&amp;gt;[[User:Hooper|'''&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;background-color:White; color:Black; -moz-border-radius-topleft:10px; -moz-border-radius-bottomleft:10px&amp;quot;&amp;gt;  Hooper  &amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;''']][[User talk:Hooper|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;background-color:Black; color:white; -moz-border-radius-bottomleft:10px; -moz-border-radius-topleft:10px&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;amp;nbsp;talk&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]][[Special:Contributions/Hooper|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;background-color:black; color:white&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;amp;nbsp;contribs&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]][[Special:Emailuser/Hooper|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;background-color:black; color:white; -moz-border-radius-bottomright:10px; -moz-border-radius-topright:10px&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;amp;nbsp;email&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]]&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;&amp;lt;/small&amp;gt; 20:00, 3 September 2009 (MDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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::::::You've missed about 10 people in that list. Once again, just compare the former &amp;quot;active users&amp;quot; list to the current one. And never mind the total ridiculous nature of edit count, which means absolutely nothing. And add to that what Jota just said below me...active users, not one-and-done signups. No, I'm thinking my user page is perfectly factual here. Sorry if you're somehow getting some proxy butthurt for Green Dragon over the split or something. [[User:Surgo|Surgo]] 20:03, 3 September 2009 (MDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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::::::: It not about edits, I mean if you count one-time IP and '''bots''' as active users then yes, only a small part of the active userbase left. But they do not, at least to my knowledge, only a few dozen of users actively contributed to this wiki at all time. These were (or are) active users, most IP or registered users only make 1 or 2 edits before leaving the wiki forever. --[[User:Lord Dhazriel|Dhazriel]] 20:04, 3 September 2009 (MDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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::::::::The above counts do not count IPs, except for of course the 391,805 total edits ever to the wiki - no way for me to remove them from the stats page info.  My user list has never been even near full, and is not a reflection of the wiki has a whole.  I have provided stats to prove my point, and you refuse to acknowledge that.  I'll consider the discussion closed then.  The reason it was important is because your user page shows up on this wiki, and it is stating factual incorrectness as to the recruitment from here to your wiki, which looks bad on this wiki.  Good luck with yours, but you shouldn't misrepresent things associated with this one. &amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;lt;small&amp;gt;&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;border: 1px solid black; -moz-border-radius:10px&amp;quot;&amp;gt;[[User:Hooper|'''&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;background-color:White; color:Black; -moz-border-radius-topleft:10px; -moz-border-radius-bottomleft:10px&amp;quot;&amp;gt;  Hooper  &amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;''']][[User talk:Hooper|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;background-color:Black; color:white; -moz-border-radius-bottomleft:10px; -moz-border-radius-topleft:10px&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;amp;nbsp;talk&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]][[Special:Contributions/Hooper|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;background-color:black; color:white&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;amp;nbsp;contribs&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]][[Special:Emailuser/Hooper|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;background-color:black; color:white; -moz-border-radius-bottomright:10px; -moz-border-radius-topright:10px&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;amp;nbsp;email&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]]&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;&amp;lt;/small&amp;gt; 20:10, 3 September 2009 (MDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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:::::::::Perhaps you should learn the meaning of your statistics before you post them. All of those edits could be made by people who have since left years ago. Then a few people remain, and are active with a few hundred edits a piece. Then 3/4ths of them leave. Guess what? The majority of active users ''still left'', even if the people responsible for the majority of edits ''have not technically left with them''. If you're going to throw statistics around, you should at least demonstrate some basic understanding of them. [[User:Surgo|Surgo]] 20:12, 3 September 2009 (MDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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::::::::::Actually, I do understand them, and I provided the only verifiable stats I could - the last 500 counts for just a couple days - which nearly equal your site's number of active users since its inception.  I 'm not going to throw out a number that I can't verify - but using that formula and expanding it to the same time since your site started - we could easilly verify the last month's active users being more.  You must have overlooked that above. &amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;lt;small&amp;gt;&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;border: 1px solid black; -moz-border-radius:10px&amp;quot;&amp;gt;[[User:Hooper|'''&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;background-color:White; color:Black; -moz-border-radius-topleft:10px; -moz-border-radius-bottomleft:10px&amp;quot;&amp;gt;  Hooper  &amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;''']][[User talk:Hooper|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;background-color:Black; color:white; -moz-border-radius-bottomleft:10px; -moz-border-radius-topleft:10px&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;amp;nbsp;talk&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]][[Special:Contributions/Hooper|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;background-color:black; color:white&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;amp;nbsp;contribs&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]][[Special:Emailuser/Hooper|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;background-color:black; color:white; -moz-border-radius-bottomright:10px; -moz-border-radius-topright:10px&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;amp;nbsp;email&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]]&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;&amp;lt;/small&amp;gt; 20:15, 3 September 2009 (MDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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:::::::::::I overlooked nothing, but I thought it was so obvious that it didn't even need saying: how many of those edits are the nonsensical noise between you and Ghostwheel? And how many edits on my site are more than noise? See, reasons like this are why trying to compare penis size, err, edit count, is complete nonsense. [[User:Surgo|Surgo]] 20:20, 3 September 2009 (MDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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::::::::::: Hooper, just... just stop it, eh? As long as it's not offensive, Surgo can (I think?) have just about anything he wants on his user page. He could state the sky was purple. It's not factually true, but he can say whatever he wants. People who want to see for themselves will do a little research. People who don't care won't. But in the end, right now it just looks like you're being stubborn and obstinate for no real reason. --[[User:Ghostwheel|Ghostwheel]] 20:19, 3 September 2009 (MDT)&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
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== Protection for Tome Classes ==&lt;br /&gt;
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I wondered if you want to protect the tome-classes against IP edit. Maybe it would be better?--[[User:Lord Dhazriel|Lord Dhazriel]] 15:21, 27 January 2009 (MST)&lt;br /&gt;
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:I'd be very appreciative, and I'm sure Surgo would be, too. It'd cut back on the amount of edit undoing we'd have to do. What ''is'' it about lately? There's been a bunch of IPs changing random classes and races all over the Wiki... --[[User:Genowhirl|Genowhirl]] 10:15, 28 January 2009 (MST)&lt;br /&gt;
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== For Your Consideration ==&lt;br /&gt;
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I've noticed the ammount of people who have been giving the things made by Frank and K bad ratings before they understood the idea behind the class, and so, have made this template to try and help you guys out:&lt;br /&gt;
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{{Frank and K material}}&lt;br /&gt;
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Hope it helps (also, I officially hand over all rights to this template to you and Genowhirl, since I have no hand in any Frank and K material and don't really know what should or shouldn't go into this template). &amp;amp;rarr; [[User:Rithaniel|&amp;lt;span style=color:Gray; -moz-border-radius-topleft:25px; -moz-border-radius-bottomleft:20px&amp;quot;&amp;gt;Rith&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]]&amp;lt;sup&amp;gt; [[User talk:Rithaniel|&amp;lt;span style=color:black; -moz-border-radius-bottomleft:20px; -moz-border-radius-topleft:20px&amp;quot;&amp;gt;(talk)&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]]&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; 21:45, 14 March 2009 (MDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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:Lol, that is awesome. Thanks dude. [[User:Surgo|Surgo]] 22:00, 14 March 2009 (MDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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::Heh, it's no problem man, just glad I could help. ''':)''' &amp;amp;rarr; [[User:Rithaniel|&amp;lt;span style=color:Gray; -moz-border-radius-topleft:25px; -moz-border-radius-bottomleft:20px&amp;quot;&amp;gt;Rith&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]]&amp;lt;sup&amp;gt; [[User talk:Rithaniel|&amp;lt;span style=color:black; -moz-border-radius-bottomleft:20px; -moz-border-radius-topleft:20px&amp;quot;&amp;gt;(talk)&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]]&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; 01:59, 15 March 2009 (MDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Comment ==&lt;br /&gt;
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Thanks for taking the time to spotlight me in the Tavern. In light of many of the recent discussions going on around the site, I'd much appreciate a more friendly personal approach.  If you don't agree with something I state, that is fine, but please refrain from attacking mine, or anyone elses, intelligence.  Thank you in advance for your cooperation. &amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;lt;small&amp;gt;&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;border: 1px solid blue; -moz-border-radius:10px&amp;quot;&amp;gt;[[User:Hooper|'''&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;background-color:White; color:FireBrick; -moz-border-radius-topleft:10px; -moz-border-radius-bottomleft:10px&amp;quot;&amp;gt;  Hooper  &amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;''']][[User talk:Hooper|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;background-color:red; color:blue; -moz-border-radius-bottomleft:10px; -moz-border-radius-topleft:10px&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;amp;nbsp;talk&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]][[Special:Contributions/Hooper|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;background-color:red; color:blue&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;amp;nbsp;contribs&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]][[Special:Emailuser/Hooper|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;background-color:red; color:blue; -moz-border-radius-bottomright:10px; -moz-border-radius-topright:10px&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;amp;nbsp;email&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]]&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;&amp;lt;/small&amp;gt; 01:18, 15 March 2009 (MDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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:What? Where was I attacking your intelligence? I remember saying you were impervious to logic, for the reason of [[Talk:Incompetent (DnD Flaw)]], which is not the same thing as attacking your intelligence. [[User:Surgo|Surgo]] 01:27, 15 March 2009 (MDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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::Being impervious to logic means one is unaffected or unable to be affected by logic.  This brings up the question of &amp;quot;if one is rude in The Tavern should it count as the same as being rude while editing?&amp;quot;  If so it would almost be as if everyone who uses the tavern would get an instant permanent ban.  Huh.  Personally I say no - when Tavern Admins come around they should just use their own judgement.  And before that time keep it like it is - The Tavern has no effect on the wiki.  --[[User:Green Dragon|Green Dragon]] 09:32, 15 March 2009 (MDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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I don't know what people really wanted for Alchemical Potions so i just made this shinanigan for the peeps. you can make it the way you think it should be. --[[User:D.M.DemonicPanda|D.M.DemonicPanda]] 21:57, 3 April 2009&lt;br /&gt;
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''Comment moved to [[Talk:Alchemist (DnD Class)]]..''&lt;br /&gt;
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== Apology ==&lt;br /&gt;
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Hey, me again. I just wanted to apologize for calling you a power gamer, in case you didn't see the apology on the [[Talk:Incompetent (DnD Flaw)]] page. I can get quite stubborn sometimes. Sorry!--[[User:Fathirian Hound|Fathirian Hound]] 09:15, 20 March 2009 (MDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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:Don't worry about it, dude. [[User:Surgo|Surgo]] 22:26, 20 March 2009 (MDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Barnstar ==&lt;br /&gt;
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{{Barnstar|Thanks for nominating the [[DnD Flaws|flaws]] with purely roleplaying benefits for deletion, and nominating the unusable [[3.5e Quests|quests]] for deletion.  Thanks for helping out with a little spring cleaning.  --[[User:Green Dragon|Green Dragon]] 04:03, 22 March 2009 (MDT)}}&lt;br /&gt;
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== Adminship ==&lt;br /&gt;
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Welcome to Adminship.  You are now part of &amp;quot;The Face&amp;quot; of D&amp;amp;D Wiki.  Honestly, as you will notice, not much has been changed now that you are an admin.  If anything, I would say more burden is placed on you.  But first, for the the new features and their uses.  You can now delete pages, protect pages, rollback edits, block users and IP's, edit every page, patrol edits, and do a couple more minor things.&lt;br /&gt;
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;What it is:&lt;br /&gt;
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*What deleting pages is, is self explanatory.&lt;br /&gt;
*What protecting pages is, is also pretty self explanatory.&lt;br /&gt;
*Rolling back edits is a method for removing spam.  It is more powerful than the conventional method of undoing edits.  Instead of showing a diff of the edit in question once clicked, it instantly rollsback all the edits by the user or IP in question on a certain page.  For example if I edited my user page and you clicked &amp;quot;rollback&amp;quot; on that edit it would rollback all the edits up to the point where someone else has edited it.  Be careful using this, it can be very helpful but also very harmful.&lt;br /&gt;
*What blocking users and IP's is, is also self explanatory.&lt;br /&gt;
*Editing every page is another self explanatory one.&lt;br /&gt;
*Patrolling edits is a method for keeping [[Special:Recentchanges|RC]] in check, it can be seen once a diff is clicked.  All it does is, once &amp;quot;Mark as Patrolled Edits&amp;quot; is clicked, it marks the edits as patrolled so the edit will no longer show up on [[Special:Recentchanges|RC]] when &amp;quot;Hide Patrolled&amp;quot; is marked.&lt;br /&gt;
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;When or how it should be used&lt;br /&gt;
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*Deleting pages is done through [[:Category:Candidates for Deletion]].&lt;br /&gt;
*Protecting pages has quite a few different times when it should be used.  Pages should be protected according to the author's wishes (with [[Template:Locked Page]] added to the top of the page in question), in case of conflict  (with [[Template:Temp Locked Page]] added to the top of the page in question), in case of [[Help:FAQ#What are OGL, OGC, SRD, and GNU FPL?|OGC]] published materials (with [[Template:OGL Top]] added to the top of the page in question  and [[Template:OGL Bottom]] added to the bottom), or finally if the page is a vital part of D&amp;amp;D Wiki's infrastructure.  If it deals with D&amp;amp;D Wiki's infrastructure it either needs to be be protected from IP edits or all non-sysop edits.  As a rule of thumb pages up to two tiers deep from the [[Main Page]] are normally locked to anyone but sysops and all the others are just protected from IP edits.  For Example [[Dungeons and Dragons]] is protected from all non-sysop edits whereas a deeper in page like [[LA 0 Races]] is only protected from IP edits.  No template has to be added to pages if thay are part of D&amp;amp;D Wiki's organization (even though some do exist like [[Template:Admin Locked Page]])&lt;br /&gt;
*Blocking a user or IP should only be used after an IP or user vandalizes a certain page.  To block someone just click &amp;quot;block&amp;quot; (found either on [[Special:Recentchanges|RC]] or the diff in question) and fill out the corresponding form.  For a typical vandalism attack I normally block the user for two weeks.&lt;br /&gt;
*Editing every page on D&amp;amp;D Wiki mostly means you can now edit the [[SRD:System Reference Document|SRD]] and the [[MSRD:Modern System Reference Document|MSRD]].  Feel free to edit them if you find inaccuracies, and please feel free to help out with [[SRD Talk:System Reference Document#SRD ToDo List]] or [[MSRD Talk:Modern System Reference Document#Tasks]].&lt;br /&gt;
*Patrolling edits should be used when you have looked over an edit and fixed everything that needs to be fixed.   (this includes answering questions, sending MoI's, etc).&lt;br /&gt;
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You have more burden on yourself now that you are an admin because users will be looking at you for editing help, knowledge of D&amp;amp;D, editing guidelines, the standards, etc etc.  It's a bit more work, but I really hope you enjoy being an admin.  --[[User:Green Dragon|Green Dragon]] 13:12, 5 April 2009 (MDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Re: Thank You ==&lt;br /&gt;
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Why you're very welcome, I think I'll enjoy it when the job's done, yes...&lt;br /&gt;
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== AdminBadge ==&lt;br /&gt;
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I'd like to label you as an admin with the &amp;lt;s&amp;gt;&amp;lt;nowiki&amp;gt;[[Template:AdminBadge]]&amp;lt;/nowiki&amp;gt;&amp;lt;/s&amp;gt; on your user page. If you have a reason you don't think you should have the badge or you don't think the badge is a good idea, please discuss it on the badge's [[Template talk:AdminBadge|discussion]]. -[[User:Valentine the Rogue|Valentine the Rogue]] 16:08, 11 April 2009 (MDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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:I'm not going to put it on my page, because I don't want people to treat me differently because I'm an admin. [[User:Surgo|Surgo]] 17:10, 15 April 2009 (MDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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==Adminship==&lt;br /&gt;
Due to my recent illness and moving I've been on very sporadically and as such was not able to comment on your RfA.  However, if I had been able to I would of thrown down a support.  You've done some great things and I especially enjoy the future of your bots. &amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;lt;small&amp;gt;&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;border: 1px solid blue; -moz-border-radius:10px&amp;quot;&amp;gt;[[User:Hooper|'''&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;background-color:White; color:FireBrick; -moz-border-radius-topleft:10px; -moz-border-radius-bottomleft:10px&amp;quot;&amp;gt;  Hooper  &amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;''']][[User talk:Hooper|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;background-color:red; color:blue; -moz-border-radius-bottomleft:10px; -moz-border-radius-topleft:10px&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;amp;nbsp;talk&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]][[Special:Contributions/Hooper|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;background-color:red; color:blue&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;amp;nbsp;contribs&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]][[Special:Emailuser/Hooper|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;background-color:red; color:blue; -moz-border-radius-bottomright:10px; -moz-border-radius-topright:10px&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;amp;nbsp;email&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]]&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;&amp;lt;/small&amp;gt; 10:29, 12 April 2009 (MDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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:Thanks! [[User:Surgo|Surgo]] 17:10, 15 April 2009 (MDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Bot ==&lt;br /&gt;
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[[User:Dmilewski/Wikibot]]&lt;br /&gt;
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From a proper programmer's point of view, the script needs work. From a workhorse point of view, the thing it damned reliable. I usually change the purpose to PRINT to check my work, then run the script as WRITE to save the changes. --[[User:Dmilewski|Dmilewski]] 04:23, 23 April 2009 (MDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Deletion ==&lt;br /&gt;
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On May 12, you deleted two of my classes (Battle Mage and Ulfsark), with the reason for deletion being &amp;quot;Not enough information to be played.  However, both classes were as complete or more complete than any of the SRD classes.[[User:Zyxw59|Zyxw59]] 15:12, 6 July 2009 (MDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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:Don't take my word for it, here they are, temporarily restored: [[Ulfsark (DnD Class)]] and [[Battle Mage (DnD Class)]]. Carry on. --[[User:Ganteka|Ganteka]] 15:27, 6 July 2009 (MDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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::Battle Mage: the mechanics of the blast are never outlined. Ulfsark: There's not enough information to actually ''use'' homeland defense (I'm not sure when it should actually be applied -- something I can't say for any of the SRD classes, which I know exactly how they work). Both classes still have the problem that they're way too weak, though. [[User:Surgo|Surgo]] 22:08, 6 July 2009 (MDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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:::Thanks for the explanation, I will add a description to them.  {{Unsigned|Zyxw59|09:55, 9 July 2009 (MDT)}}&lt;br /&gt;
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::::'''It is still not workable'''. A ranged touch attack, by itself, doesn't tell you its range, among other things. What you NEED to do is go through the pages, pretend you know NOTHING about the classes and you didn't make them, and ''see if there are enough rules written there to '''actually use them'''''. Homeland defense is '''still''' retarded, because at any given point in time a member of my clan somewhere in the world might be attacked and ''how on earth does that work''? Seriously, these are nowhere near SRD level. [[User:Surgo|Surgo]] 14:09, 9 July 2009 (MDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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:::::We have standards on D&amp;amp;D Wiki.  These do not meet them in terms of being usable or not.  As such they got deleted.  If you can fix them in time the deletion is up they will not be deleted.  If not they will be deleted.  --[[User:Green Dragon|Green Dragon]] 17:51, 9 July 2009 (MDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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{{Barnstar|Thanks for making a bot to update all of the breadcrumbs for spells. That saves a lot of manual adjustment (and potential errors caused by manual edits). --[[User:Aarnott|Aarnott]] 22:30, 3 August 2009 (MDT)}}&lt;br /&gt;
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== Gone ==&lt;br /&gt;
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I, along with most of my friends here, have left this wiki due to apparently unresolvable conflict with the administrator to make our own wiki. If you ever need to contact me for some reason, you can email (morgon Dot kanter At gmail Dot com). [[User:Surgo|Surgo]] 08:51, 19 August 2009 (MDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Wikia ==&lt;br /&gt;
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Please do not tell me you deleted wikia's D&amp;amp;D install!  Everyone liked that site as well!  If someone gave you root access to wikia and you deleted their D&amp;amp;D site the whole internet world is going to get '''very''' fucking annoyed with you.&lt;br /&gt;
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Please no.  [http://www.google.com/search?q=wikia+Dungeons+and+Dragons&amp;amp;ie=utf-8&amp;amp;oe=utf-8&amp;amp;aq=t&amp;amp;rls=com.ubuntu:en-US:unofficial&amp;amp;client=firefox-a search criteria].  --[[User:Green Dragon|Green Dragon]] 12:39, 25 August 2009 (MDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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:I cannot find any of the content that was on wikia's dungeons and dragons website anymore.  If you deleted peoples content without any form of permission on wikia because of wrongly given root access the entire internet world will hate you.  All I could find was an archived history of wikia's dungeons and dragons information - [http://www.wikiindex.org/Dungeons_and_Dragons_Wikia].  Other then that I think you may have just shredded wikia's dungeons and dragons section and could be the '''stupidest''' person I have '''ever''' seen or heard from.&lt;br /&gt;
:'''Wikia:''' http://dnd.wikia.com/wiki/Main_Page&lt;br /&gt;
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:'''Possible Restart:'''  http://dndta.wikia.com/wiki/Dungeons_%26_Dragons_Tiny_Adventures&lt;br /&gt;
:I don't think you understand that people ''worked'' on their content their, the rules were '''different''' their, etc.  --[[User:Green Dragon|Green Dragon]] 13:00, 25 August 2009 (MDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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::I hope you backed it up before you started working their.  I hope you did not shred it.  --[[User:Green Dragon|Green Dragon]] 13:07, 25 August 2009 (MDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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::: Ummm... GD, that's not even their &amp;quot;new&amp;quot; wiki. I don't think Surgo or anyone else from this site has anything to do with that. --[[User:Ghostwheel|Ghostwheel]] 13:09, 25 August 2009 (MDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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:::: I don't get it?  What happened to the DnD wikia?  --[[User:Jay Freedman|Jay Freedman]] 13:11, 25 August 2009 (MDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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:::::Ghost, I think what he means is that all of Wikia is psuedo-linked, and Surgo had needed some additional access/tools to get the new wiki to run the way he needed it to, and may have unknowingly deleted another wikia wiki's information.  Not that I know if that is or not, I just think that is what he means. &amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;lt;small&amp;gt;&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;border: 1px solid black; -moz-border-radius:10px&amp;quot;&amp;gt;[[User:Hooper|'''&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;background-color:White; color:Black; -moz-border-radius-topleft:10px; -moz-border-radius-bottomleft:10px&amp;quot;&amp;gt;  Hooper  &amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;''']][[User talk:Hooper|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;background-color:Black; color:white; -moz-border-radius-bottomleft:10px; -moz-border-radius-topleft:10px&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;amp;nbsp;talk&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]][[Special:Contributions/Hooper|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;background-color:black; color:white&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;amp;nbsp;contribs&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]][[Special:Emailuser/Hooper|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;background-color:black; color:white; -moz-border-radius-bottomright:10px; -moz-border-radius-topright:10px&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;amp;nbsp;email&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]]&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;&amp;lt;/small&amp;gt; 13:27, 25 August 2009 (MDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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{{quote|[[Meta Pages#Policies]]; swearing is a violation of our policies.|[[User:Green Dragon|Green Dragon]]|orig=[[User_talk:Green_Dragon/Archive_15#Harassment|Green Dragon Talk, Archive 15, Subsection &amp;quot;Harassment&amp;quot;]]}}&lt;br /&gt;
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{{quote|[[w:Wikipedia:Civility#Engaging in incivility]]. However you are right, you both deserve a warning.|[[User:Green Dragon|Green Dragon]]|orig=[[User_talk:Green_Dragon/Archive_15#Harassment|Green Dragon Talk, Archive 15, Subsection &amp;quot;Harassment&amp;quot;]]}}&lt;br /&gt;
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{{quote|What does &amp;quot;gross civility&amp;quot; even mean to you[Sic]? ...|[[User:Dragon Child|Dragon Child]]|orig=[[User_talk:Green_Dragon/Archive_15#Harassment|Green Dragon Talk, Archive 15, Subsection &amp;quot;Harassment&amp;quot;]]}}&lt;br /&gt;
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Should fall under those options.|[[User:Green Dragon|Green Dragon]]|orig=[[User_talk:Green_Dragon/Archive_15#Harassment|Green Dragon Talk, Archive 15, Subsection &amp;quot;Harassment&amp;quot;]]}}&lt;br /&gt;
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:::::: Acting as a People's Repesentitive of Law and Order (as laid down by bureaucrat [[User:Green Dragon|Green Dragon]]), I, hereby, warn you, [[User:Green Dragon|Green Dragon]], for your conduct in this section of [[User:Surgo|Surgo]]'s talk page. Let it be known that none think themselves above the rules of site, otherwise it descends into anarchy or worse; despotism! I am sure you will receive this warning with the grace and style you have so accustomed to yourself in your previous actions.&lt;br /&gt;
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:::::: Thank you for your co-operation. --[[User:TK-Squared|TK-Squared]] 13:31, 25 August 2009 (MDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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:::::::TK, good to see you!  Could you place the same warning on GD's talk page for Jota's cursing too please?  Thanks! &amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;lt;small&amp;gt;&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;border: 1px solid black; -moz-border-radius:10px&amp;quot;&amp;gt;[[User:Hooper|'''&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;background-color:White; color:Black; -moz-border-radius-topleft:10px; -moz-border-radius-bottomleft:10px&amp;quot;&amp;gt;  Hooper  &amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;''']][[User talk:Hooper|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;background-color:Black; color:white; -moz-border-radius-bottomleft:10px; -moz-border-radius-topleft:10px&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;amp;nbsp;talk&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]][[Special:Contributions/Hooper|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;background-color:black; color:white&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;amp;nbsp;contribs&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]][[Special:Emailuser/Hooper|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;background-color:black; color:white; -moz-border-radius-bottomright:10px; -moz-border-radius-topright:10px&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;amp;nbsp;email&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]]&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;&amp;lt;/small&amp;gt; 13:33, 25 August 2009 (MDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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:::::::: (Sigh) This warning should go over real well... (Patiently awaiting the public executions to come.)  Haha. Jk.  What up TK!  We love you man.  --[[User:Jay Freedman|Jay Freedman]] 13:56, 25 August 2009 (MDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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:::::::::Their are stupid people in the world...  That's not name calling &amp;amp;mdash; it's brutal honesty.  And [[User:TK-Squared|TK-Squared]] you have zero authority here; do not act like you do.  Also I am pretty positive you deleted the old wikia's D&amp;amp;D wiki.  I have no idea what wikia was thinking to let you have root access to their servers.  I am calling them dumb people as well.  You ruined a wiki in about 10 minutes and you have no regret?  Everyone liked that site as well and all you people can do is bitch at me about it?  Don't just sit around bitching to me about yur petty problems - get back the damn website.  I have had people unrestore shift-deleted things before.  If you did not shred it there is still a chance you can get it back.  Do something!  Don't just mope and gripe to me about your petty authority problems; fix your mistakes.  --[[User:Green Dragon|Green Dragon]] 16:20, 25 August 2009 (MDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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:::::::::: lol wut --[[User:TK-Squared|TK-Squared]] 16:45, 25 August 2009 (MDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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::::::::::: Green Dragon, what are you even talking about? NOBODY here had anything to do with that wiki at all! [[User:Dragon Child|Dragon Child]] 16:46, 25 August 2009 (MDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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:'''What the hell'''? Listen Green Dragon, you fucking moron. While I'd normally be honored to be so vilified by the likes of you, this is just retarded. The last time anyone did anything on that other wiki was in 2007. If you think I somehow &amp;quot;deleted&amp;quot; their wiki (as if that's even possible on wikia), that makes you even dumber than I had originally given you credit for. (And yes, I did think about adopting that one in like with the wikia policy. I decided against it, and instead started my own wiki. Which in one day surpassed their article count by about five-fold.) I have no idea how you even got this stupid idea. [[User:Surgo|Surgo]] 16:58, 25 August 2009 (MDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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::I don't think we should concern ourselves with the two wikis.  Surgo's wiki states on it's main page that it is for Same Game Test material mostly, which will draw a certain demographic.  Ours will draw a different demographic (the material on our site dedicated to SGT and op material is a small percentage, and I'm sure theres will have a small percentage of more core stuff = not enough for either &amp;quot;side&amp;quot; to worry about the other).  If people on one side or the other don't feel like they can help both, then just leave it be.  Everyone is just going to make themselves more upset as they argue. &amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;lt;small&amp;gt;&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;border: 1px solid black; -moz-border-radius:10px&amp;quot;&amp;gt;[[User:Hooper|'''&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;background-color:White; color:Black; -moz-border-radius-topleft:10px; -moz-border-radius-bottomleft:10px&amp;quot;&amp;gt;  Hooper  &amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;''']][[User talk:Hooper|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;background-color:Black; color:white; -moz-border-radius-bottomleft:10px; -moz-border-radius-topleft:10px&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;amp;nbsp;talk&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]][[Special:Contributions/Hooper|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;background-color:black; color:white&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;amp;nbsp;contribs&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]][[Special:Emailuser/Hooper|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;background-color:black; color:white; -moz-border-radius-bottomright:10px; -moz-border-radius-topright:10px&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;amp;nbsp;email&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]]&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;&amp;lt;/small&amp;gt; 18:37, 25 August 2009 (MDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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::: Good advice Hooper.  Of course, a wise sage once said &amp;quot;He who mediates between lions lives short life.&amp;quot;  So while we would like not to worry about wiki wars... (Thats a cool name. Wiki Wars! I love that! Haha! I am so stupid.) ...this will probably continue for some time.  --[[User:Jay Freedman|Jay Freedman]] 18:47, 25 August 2009 (MDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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:::: Hooper, I'm not sure why you insist on misrepresenting me. My wiki does not say that it is mostly for Same Game Test material...at all. It says it's for all material, and anything that doesn't define a balance point is assumed to be Same Game test. I don't know how it can be any more clear than that (which is what it actually says on the front page). Hooper, the only reason I am even posting here is because Green Dragon made some boneheaded accusation he pulled out of his ass. This has nothing to do with &amp;quot;wiki wars&amp;quot; or whatever (unless this is Green Dragon's weird idea of a 'war' or something). [[User:Surgo|Surgo]] 19:04, 25 August 2009 (MDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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:::::Ah, well if something is &amp;quot;assumed to be SGT&amp;quot; instead of assuming it is &amp;quot;core&amp;quot; ''(for lack of a better word)'', I would say that it is just fostering the above kind of thoughts.  People who support the SGT mind frame will be more prone to follow it is all. As I said above, both wikis will have some of each. &amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;lt;small&amp;gt;&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;border: 1px solid black; -moz-border-radius:10px&amp;quot;&amp;gt;[[User:Hooper|'''&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;background-color:White; color:Black; -moz-border-radius-topleft:10px; -moz-border-radius-bottomleft:10px&amp;quot;&amp;gt;  Hooper  &amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;''']][[User talk:Hooper|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;background-color:Black; color:white; -moz-border-radius-bottomleft:10px; -moz-border-radius-topleft:10px&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;amp;nbsp;talk&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]][[Special:Contributions/Hooper|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;background-color:black; color:white&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;amp;nbsp;contribs&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]][[Special:Emailuser/Hooper|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;background-color:black; color:white; -moz-border-radius-bottomright:10px; -moz-border-radius-topright:10px&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;amp;nbsp;email&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]]&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;&amp;lt;/small&amp;gt; 19:09, 25 August 2009 (MDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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::::::The obvious point of contention is that you say SGT and core are not the same; others would argue otherwise. I don't want to turn this discussion into that, but you say po-tay-to, I say po-tah-to. -- [[User:Jota|Jota]] 20:04, 25 August 2009 (MDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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:::::::Does anyone know where all the content on [http://dnd.wikia.com/wiki/Basics_and_Ability_Scores] went?  With the thought in mind of [http://dungeons.wikia.com/wiki/Main_Page] (permissions).  --[[User:Green Dragon|Green Dragon]] 20:44, 25 August 2009 (MDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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::::::::http://dnd.wikia.com/wiki/Special:Contributions/Maunderingcabal  [http://dnd.wikia.com/wiki/Quickling_Runner] [http://dnd.wikia.com/wiki/Guard_Drake] [http://dnd.wikia.com/wiki/Hobgoblin_Warcaster] [http://dnd.wikia.com/wiki/Corruption_Corpse] [http://dnd.wikia.com/wiki/Warforged_Battle_Champion], etc.  --[[User:Green Dragon|Green Dragon]] 20:49, 25 August 2009 (MDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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:::::::::What the hell is your point? How should any of us know where any of their stuff went? I've only looked at that wiki once in my lifetime. [[User:Surgo|Surgo]] 20:51, 25 August 2009 (MDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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::::::::::I'm not Wikia.  I do not know enough in this instance to make a correct judgement.  I am not positive why the content was removed; I am not Wikia.  One would have to look at IP's and permissions on Wikia's backend to get a better judgment.  Who knows; I am not Wikia.  --[[User:Green Dragon|Green Dragon]] 20:59, 25 August 2009 (MDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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:::::::::::I think this is a good example of GD's attitude. As he yells at, makes threats against, and harasses someone who has done nothing wrong, and with no proof to back it up, and instead just throws out random links incoherently. [[User:Dragon Child|Dragon Child]] 20:58, 25 August 2009 (MDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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:::::::::: @GD.  Dude your freakin me out?  Nobody here took their stuff.  That site must just be having problems.  Surgo would probably just base his new wiki off this one anyway.  He wouldn't model his new site of that wikia in a million years.  He would mimic this site and try to improve it, adding &amp;quot;Surgo Flavor&amp;quot; or something.  Nobody I know messed with that empty wikia.  Sorry.  --[[User:Jay Freedman|Jay Freedman]] 21:00, 25 August 2009 (MDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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:::::::::::That's right. You are not Wikia. That means you should not be throwing around wild-ass and incorrect accusations at me. [[User:Surgo|Surgo]] 21:04, 25 August 2009 (MDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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::::::::::::Seriously GD, what the heck are you on about? Given that a lot of us weren't even aware of that site's existence, how do you expect those pages to mean anything to anyone? -- [[User:Jota|Jota]] 21:04, 25 August 2009 (MDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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:::::::::::::Those links you provided don't even have any content missing, as far as I can tell. No other content was added to them besides the picture of the miniature. You're yelling at someone who did nothing over a &amp;quot;crime&amp;quot; that everyone can see doesn't even exist. Perhaps now it's time to call you stupid, and say it's justified, as some people are just stupid? [[User:Dragon Child|Dragon Child]] 21:05, 25 August 2009 (MDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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::What do you mean you have nothing to do with it? You STARTED this discussion, by falsely accusing, nay, OUTRIGHT LYING AND INSULTING SURGO! [[User:Dragon Child|Dragon Child]] 21:39, 25 August 2009 (MDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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:::I asked a question.  --[[User:Green Dragon|Green Dragon]] 21:41, 25 August 2009 (MDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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::::That's pretty funny, because I don't see a question mark in your post. [[User:Surgo|Surgo]] 21:49, 2 September 2009 (MDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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:You guys need to take this discussion (about Wikia's wiki's) onto Wikia's pages. I have nothing to do with it. --[[User:Green Dragon|Green Dragon]] 21:24, 25 August 2009 (MDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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Recently in our discussions on the possibility of having templates on SGT material, you routinely stated that you believe things should state facts.  I agree.  Completely.  I believe your current user page misrepresents the amount of users who left, and should be altered to be more factually correct ''(i.e. &amp;quot;left with some&amp;quot; instead of the incorrect &amp;quot;most&amp;quot;)''. &amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;lt;small&amp;gt;&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;border: 1px solid black; -moz-border-radius:10px&amp;quot;&amp;gt;[[User:Hooper|'''&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;background-color:White; color:Black; -moz-border-radius-topleft:10px; -moz-border-radius-bottomleft:10px&amp;quot;&amp;gt;  Hooper  &amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;''']][[User talk:Hooper|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;background-color:Black; color:white; -moz-border-radius-bottomleft:10px; -moz-border-radius-topleft:10px&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;amp;nbsp;talk&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]][[Special:Contributions/Hooper|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;background-color:black; color:white&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;amp;nbsp;contribs&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]][[Special:Emailuser/Hooper|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;background-color:black; color:white; -moz-border-radius-bottomright:10px; -moz-border-radius-topright:10px&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;amp;nbsp;email&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]]&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;&amp;lt;/small&amp;gt; 14:59, 3 September 2009 (MDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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:Perhaps if you feel it is infactual, you should tell me actual percentages of users that have left so it can have the utmost accuracy. After all, looking at your current and former &amp;quot;active users&amp;quot; list, I believe that what I said is entirely factual. So I think you are wrong. [[User:Surgo|Surgo]] 17:24, 3 September 2009 (MDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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::Seriously Hooper? I thought you were a bit more mature than that. --[[User:208.90.100.111|208.90.100.111]] 18:00, 3 September 2009 (MDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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:::I'm being mature, and requesting a not-factually correct statement to be amended by an individual who has proven to value factual statements.  You want the statistics?  Fair enough.  Users who can arguably be said to be officially gone from this wiki to your wiki and who aren't still active on both are  (and please let me know if I miss anyone):  You, TK, Aarnot, Danial Draco, Eiji, Sam Kay, Sabre, Rith, Summerscythe, and Val.  Combined, their edit contributions equal 23,315 edits.  Even if we assume one page count equals one page, that  isn't even half of our pages on the wiki (and that is giving these edits ALOT more credit). Since the timeframe of the split, yours has about roughly 30 active users.  Since the only stat I can provide is the last 500 edits on this wiki, and if we do not count any of the people from your wiki (since their edits were probably related to the split) we have 21 active users - that is less than two days.  If I had a method to show stats - we can follow the same obvious trend and up this number amazingly so. We've also had 128 new users since August 10th - roughly the time of the split give a day or two, of which 56 have been active - and even trimming that to &amp;quot;more active than user page activity&amp;quot; still leaves 27.  Did you take some active users?  Yes.  Some valuable users? Yes.  Most?  No.  Half?   No.  Once again, I appreciated and agreed with your comments during the SGT template discussions for factual accuracy, and I hold you to those standards. &amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;lt;small&amp;gt;&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;border: 1px solid black; -moz-border-radius:10px&amp;quot;&amp;gt;[[User:Hooper|'''&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;background-color:White; color:Black; -moz-border-radius-topleft:10px; -moz-border-radius-bottomleft:10px&amp;quot;&amp;gt;  Hooper  &amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;''']][[User talk:Hooper|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;background-color:Black; color:white; -moz-border-radius-bottomleft:10px; -moz-border-radius-topleft:10px&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;amp;nbsp;talk&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]][[Special:Contributions/Hooper|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;background-color:black; color:white&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;amp;nbsp;contribs&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]][[Special:Emailuser/Hooper|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;background-color:black; color:white; -moz-border-radius-bottomright:10px; -moz-border-radius-topright:10px&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;amp;nbsp;email&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]]&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;&amp;lt;/small&amp;gt; 19:54, 3 September 2009 (MDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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::::Key word is active, not some one-and-done IP addresses. I don't necessarily agree with Surgo's assertion, but I really don't see why Surgo's user page is an issue given anyone can look at the recent activity and judge for themselves. -- [[User:Jota|Jota]] 19:58, 3 September 2009 (MDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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:::::I did miss one person I believe.   Lord Dhazriel.  Even with his edits you still only have 27,889.  Out of '''391,805'''.  True that there is no possibly way to get verifiable stats for say, the last 6 month percentage, but it still isn't close to half. If you want to say &amp;quot;most of the tavern regulars&amp;quot; then you may have some factual truth behind that. &lt;br /&gt;
:::::@Jota, that isn't counting IP addresses at all, actually.  It is an issue because he is a strong proponent (and rightfully so) of factual correctness. &amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;lt;small&amp;gt;&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;border: 1px solid black; -moz-border-radius:10px&amp;quot;&amp;gt;[[User:Hooper|'''&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;background-color:White; color:Black; -moz-border-radius-topleft:10px; -moz-border-radius-bottomleft:10px&amp;quot;&amp;gt;  Hooper  &amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;''']][[User talk:Hooper|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;background-color:Black; color:white; -moz-border-radius-bottomleft:10px; -moz-border-radius-topleft:10px&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;amp;nbsp;talk&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]][[Special:Contributions/Hooper|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;background-color:black; color:white&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;amp;nbsp;contribs&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]][[Special:Emailuser/Hooper|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;background-color:black; color:white; -moz-border-radius-bottomright:10px; -moz-border-radius-topright:10px&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;amp;nbsp;email&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]]&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;&amp;lt;/small&amp;gt; 20:00, 3 September 2009 (MDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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::::::You've missed about 10 people in that list. Once again, just compare the former &amp;quot;active users&amp;quot; list to the current one. And never mind the total ridiculous nature of edit count, which means absolutely nothing. And add to that what Jota just said below me...active users, not one-and-done signups. No, I'm thinking my user page is perfectly factual here. Sorry if you're somehow getting some proxy butthurt for Green Dragon over the split or something. [[User:Surgo|Surgo]] 20:03, 3 September 2009 (MDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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::::::: It not about edits, I mean if you count one-time IP and '''bots''' as active users then yes, only a small part of the active userbase left. But they do not, at least to my knowledge, only a few dozen of users actively contributed to this wiki at all time. These were (or are) active users, most IP or registered users only make 1 or 2 edits before leaving the wiki forever. --[[User:Lord Dhazriel|Dhazriel]] 20:04, 3 September 2009 (MDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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::::::::The above counts do not count IPs, except for of course the 391,805 total edits ever to the wiki - no way for me to remove them from the stats page info.  My user list has never been even near full, and is not a reflection of the wiki has a whole.  I have provided stats to prove my point, and you refuse to acknowledge that.  I'll consider the discussion closed then.  The reason it was important is because your user page shows up on this wiki, and it is stating factual incorrectness as to the recruitment from here to your wiki, which looks bad on this wiki.  Good luck with yours, but you shouldn't misrepresent things associated with this one. &amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;lt;small&amp;gt;&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;border: 1px solid black; -moz-border-radius:10px&amp;quot;&amp;gt;[[User:Hooper|'''&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;background-color:White; color:Black; -moz-border-radius-topleft:10px; -moz-border-radius-bottomleft:10px&amp;quot;&amp;gt;  Hooper  &amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;''']][[User talk:Hooper|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;background-color:Black; color:white; -moz-border-radius-bottomleft:10px; -moz-border-radius-topleft:10px&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;amp;nbsp;talk&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]][[Special:Contributions/Hooper|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;background-color:black; color:white&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;amp;nbsp;contribs&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]][[Special:Emailuser/Hooper|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;background-color:black; color:white; -moz-border-radius-bottomright:10px; -moz-border-radius-topright:10px&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;amp;nbsp;email&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]]&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;&amp;lt;/small&amp;gt; 20:10, 3 September 2009 (MDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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:::::::::Perhaps you should learn the meaning of your statistics before you post them. All of those edits could be made by people who have since left years ago. Then a few people remain, and are active with a few hundred edits a piece. Then 3/4ths of them leave. Guess what? The majority of active users ''still left'', even if the people responsible for the majority of edits ''have not technically left with them''. If you're going to throw statistics around, you should at least demonstrate some basic understanding of them. [[User:Surgo|Surgo]] 20:12, 3 September 2009 (MDT)&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
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== Protection for Tome Classes ==&lt;br /&gt;
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I wondered if you want to protect the tome-classes against IP edit. Maybe it would be better?--[[User:Lord Dhazriel|Lord Dhazriel]] 15:21, 27 January 2009 (MST)&lt;br /&gt;
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:I'd be very appreciative, and I'm sure Surgo would be, too. It'd cut back on the amount of edit undoing we'd have to do. What ''is'' it about lately? There's been a bunch of IPs changing random classes and races all over the Wiki... --[[User:Genowhirl|Genowhirl]] 10:15, 28 January 2009 (MST)&lt;br /&gt;
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== For Your Consideration ==&lt;br /&gt;
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I've noticed the ammount of people who have been giving the things made by Frank and K bad ratings before they understood the idea behind the class, and so, have made this template to try and help you guys out:&lt;br /&gt;
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{{Frank and K material}}&lt;br /&gt;
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Hope it helps (also, I officially hand over all rights to this template to you and Genowhirl, since I have no hand in any Frank and K material and don't really know what should or shouldn't go into this template). &amp;amp;rarr; [[User:Rithaniel|&amp;lt;span style=color:Gray; -moz-border-radius-topleft:25px; -moz-border-radius-bottomleft:20px&amp;quot;&amp;gt;Rith&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]]&amp;lt;sup&amp;gt; [[User talk:Rithaniel|&amp;lt;span style=color:black; -moz-border-radius-bottomleft:20px; -moz-border-radius-topleft:20px&amp;quot;&amp;gt;(talk)&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]]&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; 21:45, 14 March 2009 (MDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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:Lol, that is awesome. Thanks dude. [[User:Surgo|Surgo]] 22:00, 14 March 2009 (MDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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::Heh, it's no problem man, just glad I could help. ''':)''' &amp;amp;rarr; [[User:Rithaniel|&amp;lt;span style=color:Gray; -moz-border-radius-topleft:25px; -moz-border-radius-bottomleft:20px&amp;quot;&amp;gt;Rith&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]]&amp;lt;sup&amp;gt; [[User talk:Rithaniel|&amp;lt;span style=color:black; -moz-border-radius-bottomleft:20px; -moz-border-radius-topleft:20px&amp;quot;&amp;gt;(talk)&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]]&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; 01:59, 15 March 2009 (MDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Comment ==&lt;br /&gt;
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Thanks for taking the time to spotlight me in the Tavern. In light of many of the recent discussions going on around the site, I'd much appreciate a more friendly personal approach.  If you don't agree with something I state, that is fine, but please refrain from attacking mine, or anyone elses, intelligence.  Thank you in advance for your cooperation. &amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;lt;small&amp;gt;&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;border: 1px solid blue; -moz-border-radius:10px&amp;quot;&amp;gt;[[User:Hooper|'''&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;background-color:White; color:FireBrick; -moz-border-radius-topleft:10px; -moz-border-radius-bottomleft:10px&amp;quot;&amp;gt;  Hooper  &amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;''']][[User talk:Hooper|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;background-color:red; color:blue; -moz-border-radius-bottomleft:10px; -moz-border-radius-topleft:10px&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;amp;nbsp;talk&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]][[Special:Contributions/Hooper|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;background-color:red; color:blue&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;amp;nbsp;contribs&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]][[Special:Emailuser/Hooper|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;background-color:red; color:blue; -moz-border-radius-bottomright:10px; -moz-border-radius-topright:10px&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;amp;nbsp;email&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]]&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;&amp;lt;/small&amp;gt; 01:18, 15 March 2009 (MDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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:What? Where was I attacking your intelligence? I remember saying you were impervious to logic, for the reason of [[Talk:Incompetent (DnD Flaw)]], which is not the same thing as attacking your intelligence. [[User:Surgo|Surgo]] 01:27, 15 March 2009 (MDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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::Being impervious to logic means one is unaffected or unable to be affected by logic.  This brings up the question of &amp;quot;if one is rude in The Tavern should it count as the same as being rude while editing?&amp;quot;  If so it would almost be as if everyone who uses the tavern would get an instant permanent ban.  Huh.  Personally I say no - when Tavern Admins come around they should just use their own judgement.  And before that time keep it like it is - The Tavern has no effect on the wiki.  --[[User:Green Dragon|Green Dragon]] 09:32, 15 March 2009 (MDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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I don't know what people really wanted for Alchemical Potions so i just made this shinanigan for the peeps. you can make it the way you think it should be. --[[User:D.M.DemonicPanda|D.M.DemonicPanda]] 21:57, 3 April 2009&lt;br /&gt;
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''Comment moved to [[Talk:Alchemist (DnD Class)]]..''&lt;br /&gt;
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== Apology ==&lt;br /&gt;
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Hey, me again. I just wanted to apologize for calling you a power gamer, in case you didn't see the apology on the [[Talk:Incompetent (DnD Flaw)]] page. I can get quite stubborn sometimes. Sorry!--[[User:Fathirian Hound|Fathirian Hound]] 09:15, 20 March 2009 (MDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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:Don't worry about it, dude. [[User:Surgo|Surgo]] 22:26, 20 March 2009 (MDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Barnstar ==&lt;br /&gt;
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{{Barnstar|Thanks for nominating the [[DnD Flaws|flaws]] with purely roleplaying benefits for deletion, and nominating the unusable [[3.5e Quests|quests]] for deletion.  Thanks for helping out with a little spring cleaning.  --[[User:Green Dragon|Green Dragon]] 04:03, 22 March 2009 (MDT)}}&lt;br /&gt;
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== Adminship ==&lt;br /&gt;
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Welcome to Adminship.  You are now part of &amp;quot;The Face&amp;quot; of D&amp;amp;D Wiki.  Honestly, as you will notice, not much has been changed now that you are an admin.  If anything, I would say more burden is placed on you.  But first, for the the new features and their uses.  You can now delete pages, protect pages, rollback edits, block users and IP's, edit every page, patrol edits, and do a couple more minor things.&lt;br /&gt;
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;What it is:&lt;br /&gt;
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*What deleting pages is, is self explanatory.&lt;br /&gt;
*What protecting pages is, is also pretty self explanatory.&lt;br /&gt;
*Rolling back edits is a method for removing spam.  It is more powerful than the conventional method of undoing edits.  Instead of showing a diff of the edit in question once clicked, it instantly rollsback all the edits by the user or IP in question on a certain page.  For example if I edited my user page and you clicked &amp;quot;rollback&amp;quot; on that edit it would rollback all the edits up to the point where someone else has edited it.  Be careful using this, it can be very helpful but also very harmful.&lt;br /&gt;
*What blocking users and IP's is, is also self explanatory.&lt;br /&gt;
*Editing every page is another self explanatory one.&lt;br /&gt;
*Patrolling edits is a method for keeping [[Special:Recentchanges|RC]] in check, it can be seen once a diff is clicked.  All it does is, once &amp;quot;Mark as Patrolled Edits&amp;quot; is clicked, it marks the edits as patrolled so the edit will no longer show up on [[Special:Recentchanges|RC]] when &amp;quot;Hide Patrolled&amp;quot; is marked.&lt;br /&gt;
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;When or how it should be used&lt;br /&gt;
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*Deleting pages is done through [[:Category:Candidates for Deletion]].&lt;br /&gt;
*Protecting pages has quite a few different times when it should be used.  Pages should be protected according to the author's wishes (with [[Template:Locked Page]] added to the top of the page in question), in case of conflict  (with [[Template:Temp Locked Page]] added to the top of the page in question), in case of [[Help:FAQ#What are OGL, OGC, SRD, and GNU FPL?|OGC]] published materials (with [[Template:OGL Top]] added to the top of the page in question  and [[Template:OGL Bottom]] added to the bottom), or finally if the page is a vital part of D&amp;amp;D Wiki's infrastructure.  If it deals with D&amp;amp;D Wiki's infrastructure it either needs to be be protected from IP edits or all non-sysop edits.  As a rule of thumb pages up to two tiers deep from the [[Main Page]] are normally locked to anyone but sysops and all the others are just protected from IP edits.  For Example [[Dungeons and Dragons]] is protected from all non-sysop edits whereas a deeper in page like [[LA 0 Races]] is only protected from IP edits.  No template has to be added to pages if thay are part of D&amp;amp;D Wiki's organization (even though some do exist like [[Template:Admin Locked Page]])&lt;br /&gt;
*Blocking a user or IP should only be used after an IP or user vandalizes a certain page.  To block someone just click &amp;quot;block&amp;quot; (found either on [[Special:Recentchanges|RC]] or the diff in question) and fill out the corresponding form.  For a typical vandalism attack I normally block the user for two weeks.&lt;br /&gt;
*Editing every page on D&amp;amp;D Wiki mostly means you can now edit the [[SRD:System Reference Document|SRD]] and the [[MSRD:Modern System Reference Document|MSRD]].  Feel free to edit them if you find inaccuracies, and please feel free to help out with [[SRD Talk:System Reference Document#SRD ToDo List]] or [[MSRD Talk:Modern System Reference Document#Tasks]].&lt;br /&gt;
*Patrolling edits should be used when you have looked over an edit and fixed everything that needs to be fixed.   (this includes answering questions, sending MoI's, etc).&lt;br /&gt;
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You have more burden on yourself now that you are an admin because users will be looking at you for editing help, knowledge of D&amp;amp;D, editing guidelines, the standards, etc etc.  It's a bit more work, but I really hope you enjoy being an admin.  --[[User:Green Dragon|Green Dragon]] 13:12, 5 April 2009 (MDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Re: Thank You ==&lt;br /&gt;
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Why you're very welcome, I think I'll enjoy it when the job's done, yes...&lt;br /&gt;
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== AdminBadge ==&lt;br /&gt;
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I'd like to label you as an admin with the &amp;lt;s&amp;gt;&amp;lt;nowiki&amp;gt;[[Template:AdminBadge]]&amp;lt;/nowiki&amp;gt;&amp;lt;/s&amp;gt; on your user page. If you have a reason you don't think you should have the badge or you don't think the badge is a good idea, please discuss it on the badge's [[Template talk:AdminBadge|discussion]]. -[[User:Valentine the Rogue|Valentine the Rogue]] 16:08, 11 April 2009 (MDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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:I'm not going to put it on my page, because I don't want people to treat me differently because I'm an admin. [[User:Surgo|Surgo]] 17:10, 15 April 2009 (MDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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==Adminship==&lt;br /&gt;
Due to my recent illness and moving I've been on very sporadically and as such was not able to comment on your RfA.  However, if I had been able to I would of thrown down a support.  You've done some great things and I especially enjoy the future of your bots. &amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;lt;small&amp;gt;&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;border: 1px solid blue; -moz-border-radius:10px&amp;quot;&amp;gt;[[User:Hooper|'''&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;background-color:White; color:FireBrick; -moz-border-radius-topleft:10px; -moz-border-radius-bottomleft:10px&amp;quot;&amp;gt;  Hooper  &amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;''']][[User talk:Hooper|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;background-color:red; color:blue; -moz-border-radius-bottomleft:10px; -moz-border-radius-topleft:10px&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;amp;nbsp;talk&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]][[Special:Contributions/Hooper|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;background-color:red; color:blue&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;amp;nbsp;contribs&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]][[Special:Emailuser/Hooper|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;background-color:red; color:blue; -moz-border-radius-bottomright:10px; -moz-border-radius-topright:10px&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;amp;nbsp;email&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]]&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;&amp;lt;/small&amp;gt; 10:29, 12 April 2009 (MDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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:Thanks! [[User:Surgo|Surgo]] 17:10, 15 April 2009 (MDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Bot ==&lt;br /&gt;
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[[User:Dmilewski/Wikibot]]&lt;br /&gt;
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From a proper programmer's point of view, the script needs work. From a workhorse point of view, the thing it damned reliable. I usually change the purpose to PRINT to check my work, then run the script as WRITE to save the changes. --[[User:Dmilewski|Dmilewski]] 04:23, 23 April 2009 (MDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Deletion ==&lt;br /&gt;
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On May 12, you deleted two of my classes (Battle Mage and Ulfsark), with the reason for deletion being &amp;quot;Not enough information to be played.  However, both classes were as complete or more complete than any of the SRD classes.[[User:Zyxw59|Zyxw59]] 15:12, 6 July 2009 (MDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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:Don't take my word for it, here they are, temporarily restored: [[Ulfsark (DnD Class)]] and [[Battle Mage (DnD Class)]]. Carry on. --[[User:Ganteka|Ganteka]] 15:27, 6 July 2009 (MDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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::Battle Mage: the mechanics of the blast are never outlined. Ulfsark: There's not enough information to actually ''use'' homeland defense (I'm not sure when it should actually be applied -- something I can't say for any of the SRD classes, which I know exactly how they work). Both classes still have the problem that they're way too weak, though. [[User:Surgo|Surgo]] 22:08, 6 July 2009 (MDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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:::Thanks for the explanation, I will add a description to them.  {{Unsigned|Zyxw59|09:55, 9 July 2009 (MDT)}}&lt;br /&gt;
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::::'''It is still not workable'''. A ranged touch attack, by itself, doesn't tell you its range, among other things. What you NEED to do is go through the pages, pretend you know NOTHING about the classes and you didn't make them, and ''see if there are enough rules written there to '''actually use them'''''. Homeland defense is '''still''' retarded, because at any given point in time a member of my clan somewhere in the world might be attacked and ''how on earth does that work''? Seriously, these are nowhere near SRD level. [[User:Surgo|Surgo]] 14:09, 9 July 2009 (MDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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:::::We have standards on D&amp;amp;D Wiki.  These do not meet them in terms of being usable or not.  As such they got deleted.  If you can fix them in time the deletion is up they will not be deleted.  If not they will be deleted.  --[[User:Green Dragon|Green Dragon]] 17:51, 9 July 2009 (MDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Barnstar the Second ==&lt;br /&gt;
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{{Barnstar|Thanks for making a bot to update all of the breadcrumbs for spells. That saves a lot of manual adjustment (and potential errors caused by manual edits). --[[User:Aarnott|Aarnott]] 22:30, 3 August 2009 (MDT)}}&lt;br /&gt;
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== Gone ==&lt;br /&gt;
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I, along with most of my friends here, have left this wiki due to apparently unresolvable conflict with the administrator to make our own wiki. If you ever need to contact me for some reason, you can email (morgon Dot kanter At gmail Dot com). [[User:Surgo|Surgo]] 08:51, 19 August 2009 (MDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Wikia ==&lt;br /&gt;
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Please do not tell me you deleted wikia's D&amp;amp;D install!  Everyone liked that site as well!  If someone gave you root access to wikia and you deleted their D&amp;amp;D site the whole internet world is going to get '''very''' fucking annoyed with you.&lt;br /&gt;
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Please no.  [http://www.google.com/search?q=wikia+Dungeons+and+Dragons&amp;amp;ie=utf-8&amp;amp;oe=utf-8&amp;amp;aq=t&amp;amp;rls=com.ubuntu:en-US:unofficial&amp;amp;client=firefox-a search criteria].  --[[User:Green Dragon|Green Dragon]] 12:39, 25 August 2009 (MDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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:I cannot find any of the content that was on wikia's dungeons and dragons website anymore.  If you deleted peoples content without any form of permission on wikia because of wrongly given root access the entire internet world will hate you.  All I could find was an archived history of wikia's dungeons and dragons information - [http://www.wikiindex.org/Dungeons_and_Dragons_Wikia].  Other then that I think you may have just shredded wikia's dungeons and dragons section and could be the '''stupidest''' person I have '''ever''' seen or heard from.&lt;br /&gt;
:'''Wikia:''' http://dnd.wikia.com/wiki/Main_Page&lt;br /&gt;
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:'''Possible Restart:'''  http://dndta.wikia.com/wiki/Dungeons_%26_Dragons_Tiny_Adventures&lt;br /&gt;
:I don't think you understand that people ''worked'' on their content their, the rules were '''different''' their, etc.  --[[User:Green Dragon|Green Dragon]] 13:00, 25 August 2009 (MDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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::I hope you backed it up before you started working their.  I hope you did not shred it.  --[[User:Green Dragon|Green Dragon]] 13:07, 25 August 2009 (MDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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::: Ummm... GD, that's not even their &amp;quot;new&amp;quot; wiki. I don't think Surgo or anyone else from this site has anything to do with that. --[[User:Ghostwheel|Ghostwheel]] 13:09, 25 August 2009 (MDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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:::: I don't get it?  What happened to the DnD wikia?  --[[User:Jay Freedman|Jay Freedman]] 13:11, 25 August 2009 (MDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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:::::Ghost, I think what he means is that all of Wikia is psuedo-linked, and Surgo had needed some additional access/tools to get the new wiki to run the way he needed it to, and may have unknowingly deleted another wikia wiki's information.  Not that I know if that is or not, I just think that is what he means. &amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;lt;small&amp;gt;&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;border: 1px solid black; -moz-border-radius:10px&amp;quot;&amp;gt;[[User:Hooper|'''&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;background-color:White; color:Black; -moz-border-radius-topleft:10px; -moz-border-radius-bottomleft:10px&amp;quot;&amp;gt;  Hooper  &amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;''']][[User talk:Hooper|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;background-color:Black; color:white; -moz-border-radius-bottomleft:10px; -moz-border-radius-topleft:10px&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;amp;nbsp;talk&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]][[Special:Contributions/Hooper|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;background-color:black; color:white&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;amp;nbsp;contribs&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]][[Special:Emailuser/Hooper|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;background-color:black; color:white; -moz-border-radius-bottomright:10px; -moz-border-radius-topright:10px&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;amp;nbsp;email&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]]&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;&amp;lt;/small&amp;gt; 13:27, 25 August 2009 (MDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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{{quote|[[Meta Pages#Policies]]; swearing is a violation of our policies.|[[User:Green Dragon|Green Dragon]]|orig=[[User_talk:Green_Dragon/Archive_15#Harassment|Green Dragon Talk, Archive 15, Subsection &amp;quot;Harassment&amp;quot;]]}}&lt;br /&gt;
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{{quote|[[w:Wikipedia:Civility#Engaging in incivility]]. However you are right, you both deserve a warning.|[[User:Green Dragon|Green Dragon]]|orig=[[User_talk:Green_Dragon/Archive_15#Harassment|Green Dragon Talk, Archive 15, Subsection &amp;quot;Harassment&amp;quot;]]}}&lt;br /&gt;
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{{quote|What does &amp;quot;gross civility&amp;quot; even mean to you[Sic]? ...|[[User:Dragon Child|Dragon Child]]|orig=[[User_talk:Green_Dragon/Archive_15#Harassment|Green Dragon Talk, Archive 15, Subsection &amp;quot;Harassment&amp;quot;]]}}&lt;br /&gt;
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Should fall under those options.|[[User:Green Dragon|Green Dragon]]|orig=[[User_talk:Green_Dragon/Archive_15#Harassment|Green Dragon Talk, Archive 15, Subsection &amp;quot;Harassment&amp;quot;]]}}&lt;br /&gt;
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:::::: Acting as a People's Repesentitive of Law and Order (as laid down by bureaucrat [[User:Green Dragon|Green Dragon]]), I, hereby, warn you, [[User:Green Dragon|Green Dragon]], for your conduct in this section of [[User:Surgo|Surgo]]'s talk page. Let it be known that none think themselves above the rules of site, otherwise it descends into anarchy or worse; despotism! I am sure you will receive this warning with the grace and style you have so accustomed to yourself in your previous actions.&lt;br /&gt;
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:::::: Thank you for your co-operation. --[[User:TK-Squared|TK-Squared]] 13:31, 25 August 2009 (MDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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:::::::TK, good to see you!  Could you place the same warning on GD's talk page for Jota's cursing too please?  Thanks! &amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;lt;small&amp;gt;&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;border: 1px solid black; -moz-border-radius:10px&amp;quot;&amp;gt;[[User:Hooper|'''&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;background-color:White; color:Black; -moz-border-radius-topleft:10px; -moz-border-radius-bottomleft:10px&amp;quot;&amp;gt;  Hooper  &amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;''']][[User talk:Hooper|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;background-color:Black; color:white; -moz-border-radius-bottomleft:10px; -moz-border-radius-topleft:10px&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;amp;nbsp;talk&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]][[Special:Contributions/Hooper|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;background-color:black; color:white&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;amp;nbsp;contribs&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]][[Special:Emailuser/Hooper|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;background-color:black; color:white; -moz-border-radius-bottomright:10px; -moz-border-radius-topright:10px&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;amp;nbsp;email&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]]&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;&amp;lt;/small&amp;gt; 13:33, 25 August 2009 (MDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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:::::::: (Sigh) This warning should go over real well... (Patiently awaiting the public executions to come.)  Haha. Jk.  What up TK!  We love you man.  --[[User:Jay Freedman|Jay Freedman]] 13:56, 25 August 2009 (MDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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:::::::::Their are stupid people in the world...  That's not name calling &amp;amp;mdash; it's brutal honesty.  And [[User:TK-Squared|TK-Squared]] you have zero authority here; do not act like you do.  Also I am pretty positive you deleted the old wikia's D&amp;amp;D wiki.  I have no idea what wikia was thinking to let you have root access to their servers.  I am calling them dumb people as well.  You ruined a wiki in about 10 minutes and you have no regret?  Everyone liked that site as well and all you people can do is bitch at me about it?  Don't just sit around bitching to me about yur petty problems - get back the damn website.  I have had people unrestore shift-deleted things before.  If you did not shred it there is still a chance you can get it back.  Do something!  Don't just mope and gripe to me about your petty authority problems; fix your mistakes.  --[[User:Green Dragon|Green Dragon]] 16:20, 25 August 2009 (MDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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:::::::::: lol wut --[[User:TK-Squared|TK-Squared]] 16:45, 25 August 2009 (MDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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::::::::::: Green Dragon, what are you even talking about? NOBODY here had anything to do with that wiki at all! [[User:Dragon Child|Dragon Child]] 16:46, 25 August 2009 (MDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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:'''What the hell'''? Listen Green Dragon, you fucking moron. While I'd normally be honored to be so vilified by the likes of you, this is just retarded. The last time anyone did anything on that other wiki was in 2007. If you think I somehow &amp;quot;deleted&amp;quot; their wiki (as if that's even possible on wikia), that makes you even dumber than I had originally given you credit for. (And yes, I did think about adopting that one in like with the wikia policy. I decided against it, and instead started my own wiki. Which in one day surpassed their article count by about five-fold.) I have no idea how you even got this stupid idea. [[User:Surgo|Surgo]] 16:58, 25 August 2009 (MDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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::I don't think we should concern ourselves with the two wikis.  Surgo's wiki states on it's main page that it is for Same Game Test material mostly, which will draw a certain demographic.  Ours will draw a different demographic (the material on our site dedicated to SGT and op material is a small percentage, and I'm sure theres will have a small percentage of more core stuff = not enough for either &amp;quot;side&amp;quot; to worry about the other).  If people on one side or the other don't feel like they can help both, then just leave it be.  Everyone is just going to make themselves more upset as they argue. &amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;lt;small&amp;gt;&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;border: 1px solid black; -moz-border-radius:10px&amp;quot;&amp;gt;[[User:Hooper|'''&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;background-color:White; color:Black; -moz-border-radius-topleft:10px; -moz-border-radius-bottomleft:10px&amp;quot;&amp;gt;  Hooper  &amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;''']][[User talk:Hooper|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;background-color:Black; color:white; -moz-border-radius-bottomleft:10px; -moz-border-radius-topleft:10px&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;amp;nbsp;talk&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]][[Special:Contributions/Hooper|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;background-color:black; color:white&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;amp;nbsp;contribs&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]][[Special:Emailuser/Hooper|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;background-color:black; color:white; -moz-border-radius-bottomright:10px; -moz-border-radius-topright:10px&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;amp;nbsp;email&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]]&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;&amp;lt;/small&amp;gt; 18:37, 25 August 2009 (MDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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::: Good advice Hooper.  Of course, a wise sage once said &amp;quot;He who mediates between lions lives short life.&amp;quot;  So while we would like not to worry about wiki wars... (Thats a cool name. Wiki Wars! I love that! Haha! I am so stupid.) ...this will probably continue for some time.  --[[User:Jay Freedman|Jay Freedman]] 18:47, 25 August 2009 (MDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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:::: Hooper, I'm not sure why you insist on misrepresenting me. My wiki does not say that it is mostly for Same Game Test material...at all. It says it's for all material, and anything that doesn't define a balance point is assumed to be Same Game test. I don't know how it can be any more clear than that (which is what it actually says on the front page). Hooper, the only reason I am even posting here is because Green Dragon made some boneheaded accusation he pulled out of his ass. This has nothing to do with &amp;quot;wiki wars&amp;quot; or whatever (unless this is Green Dragon's weird idea of a 'war' or something). [[User:Surgo|Surgo]] 19:04, 25 August 2009 (MDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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:::::Ah, well if something is &amp;quot;assumed to be SGT&amp;quot; instead of assuming it is &amp;quot;core&amp;quot; ''(for lack of a better word)'', I would say that it is just fostering the above kind of thoughts.  People who support the SGT mind frame will be more prone to follow it is all. As I said above, both wikis will have some of each. &amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;lt;small&amp;gt;&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;border: 1px solid black; -moz-border-radius:10px&amp;quot;&amp;gt;[[User:Hooper|'''&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;background-color:White; color:Black; -moz-border-radius-topleft:10px; -moz-border-radius-bottomleft:10px&amp;quot;&amp;gt;  Hooper  &amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;''']][[User talk:Hooper|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;background-color:Black; color:white; -moz-border-radius-bottomleft:10px; -moz-border-radius-topleft:10px&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;amp;nbsp;talk&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]][[Special:Contributions/Hooper|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;background-color:black; color:white&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;amp;nbsp;contribs&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]][[Special:Emailuser/Hooper|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;background-color:black; color:white; -moz-border-radius-bottomright:10px; -moz-border-radius-topright:10px&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;amp;nbsp;email&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]]&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;&amp;lt;/small&amp;gt; 19:09, 25 August 2009 (MDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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::::::The obvious point of contention is that you say SGT and core are not the same; others would argue otherwise. I don't want to turn this discussion into that, but you say po-tay-to, I say po-tah-to. -- [[User:Jota|Jota]] 20:04, 25 August 2009 (MDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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:::::::Does anyone know where all the content on [http://dnd.wikia.com/wiki/Basics_and_Ability_Scores] went?  With the thought in mind of [http://dungeons.wikia.com/wiki/Main_Page] (permissions).  --[[User:Green Dragon|Green Dragon]] 20:44, 25 August 2009 (MDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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::::::::http://dnd.wikia.com/wiki/Special:Contributions/Maunderingcabal  [http://dnd.wikia.com/wiki/Quickling_Runner] [http://dnd.wikia.com/wiki/Guard_Drake] [http://dnd.wikia.com/wiki/Hobgoblin_Warcaster] [http://dnd.wikia.com/wiki/Corruption_Corpse] [http://dnd.wikia.com/wiki/Warforged_Battle_Champion], etc.  --[[User:Green Dragon|Green Dragon]] 20:49, 25 August 2009 (MDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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:::::::::What the hell is your point? How should any of us know where any of their stuff went? I've only looked at that wiki once in my lifetime. [[User:Surgo|Surgo]] 20:51, 25 August 2009 (MDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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::::::::::I'm not Wikia.  I do not know enough in this instance to make a correct judgement.  I am not positive why the content was removed; I am not Wikia.  One would have to look at IP's and permissions on Wikia's backend to get a better judgment.  Who knows; I am not Wikia.  --[[User:Green Dragon|Green Dragon]] 20:59, 25 August 2009 (MDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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:::::::::::I think this is a good example of GD's attitude. As he yells at, makes threats against, and harasses someone who has done nothing wrong, and with no proof to back it up, and instead just throws out random links incoherently. [[User:Dragon Child|Dragon Child]] 20:58, 25 August 2009 (MDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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:::::::::: @GD.  Dude your freakin me out?  Nobody here took their stuff.  That site must just be having problems.  Surgo would probably just base his new wiki off this one anyway.  He wouldn't model his new site of that wikia in a million years.  He would mimic this site and try to improve it, adding &amp;quot;Surgo Flavor&amp;quot; or something.  Nobody I know messed with that empty wikia.  Sorry.  --[[User:Jay Freedman|Jay Freedman]] 21:00, 25 August 2009 (MDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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:::::::::::That's right. You are not Wikia. That means you should not be throwing around wild-ass and incorrect accusations at me. [[User:Surgo|Surgo]] 21:04, 25 August 2009 (MDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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::::::::::::Seriously GD, what the heck are you on about? Given that a lot of us weren't even aware of that site's existence, how do you expect those pages to mean anything to anyone? -- [[User:Jota|Jota]] 21:04, 25 August 2009 (MDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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:::::::::::::Those links you provided don't even have any content missing, as far as I can tell. No other content was added to them besides the picture of the miniature. You're yelling at someone who did nothing over a &amp;quot;crime&amp;quot; that everyone can see doesn't even exist. Perhaps now it's time to call you stupid, and say it's justified, as some people are just stupid? [[User:Dragon Child|Dragon Child]] 21:05, 25 August 2009 (MDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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::What do you mean you have nothing to do with it? You STARTED this discussion, by falsely accusing, nay, OUTRIGHT LYING AND INSULTING SURGO! [[User:Dragon Child|Dragon Child]] 21:39, 25 August 2009 (MDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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:::I asked a question.  --[[User:Green Dragon|Green Dragon]] 21:41, 25 August 2009 (MDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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::::That's pretty funny, because I don't see a question mark in your post. [[User:Surgo|Surgo]] 21:49, 2 September 2009 (MDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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:You guys need to take this discussion (about Wikia's wiki's) onto Wikia's pages. I have nothing to do with it. --[[User:Green Dragon|Green Dragon]] 21:24, 25 August 2009 (MDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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Recently in our discussions on the possibility of having templates on SGT material, you routinely stated that you believe things should state facts.  I agree.  Completely.  I believe your current user page misrepresents the amount of users who left, and should be altered to be more factually correct ''(i.e. &amp;quot;left with some&amp;quot; instead of the incorrect &amp;quot;most&amp;quot;)''. &amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;lt;small&amp;gt;&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;border: 1px solid black; -moz-border-radius:10px&amp;quot;&amp;gt;[[User:Hooper|'''&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;background-color:White; color:Black; -moz-border-radius-topleft:10px; -moz-border-radius-bottomleft:10px&amp;quot;&amp;gt;  Hooper  &amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;''']][[User talk:Hooper|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;background-color:Black; color:white; -moz-border-radius-bottomleft:10px; -moz-border-radius-topleft:10px&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;amp;nbsp;talk&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]][[Special:Contributions/Hooper|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;background-color:black; color:white&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;amp;nbsp;contribs&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]][[Special:Emailuser/Hooper|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;background-color:black; color:white; -moz-border-radius-bottomright:10px; -moz-border-radius-topright:10px&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;amp;nbsp;email&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]]&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;&amp;lt;/small&amp;gt; 14:59, 3 September 2009 (MDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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:Perhaps if you feel it is infactual, you should tell me actual percentages of users that have left so it can have the utmost accuracy. After all, looking at your current and former &amp;quot;active users&amp;quot; list, I believe that what I said is entirely factual. So I think you are wrong. [[User:Surgo|Surgo]] 17:24, 3 September 2009 (MDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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::Seriously Hooper? I thought you were a bit more mature than that. --[[User:208.90.100.111|208.90.100.111]] 18:00, 3 September 2009 (MDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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:::I'm being mature, and requesting a not-factually correct statement to be amended by an individual who has proven to value factual statements.  You want the statistics?  Fair enough.  Users who can arguably be said to be officially gone from this wiki to your wiki and who aren't still active on both are  (and please let me know if I miss anyone):  You, TK, Aarnot, Danial Draco, Eiji, Sam Kay, Sabre, Rith, Summerscythe, and Val.  Combined, their edit contributions equal 23,315 edits.  Even if we assume one page count equals one page, that  isn't even half of our pages on the wiki (and that is giving these edits ALOT more credit). Since the timeframe of the split, yours has about roughly 30 active users.  Since the only stat I can provide is the last 500 edits on this wiki, and if we do not count any of the people from your wiki (since their edits were probably related to the split) we have 21 active users - that is less than two days.  If I had a method to show stats - we can follow the same obvious trend and up this number amazingly so. We've also had 128 new users since August 10th - roughly the time of the split give a day or two, of which 56 have been active - and even trimming that to &amp;quot;more active than user page activity&amp;quot; still leaves 27.  Did you take some active users?  Yes.  Some valuable users? Yes.  Most?  No.  Half?   No.  Once again, I appreciated and agreed with your comments during the SGT template discussions for factual accuracy, and I hold you to those standards. &amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;lt;small&amp;gt;&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;border: 1px solid black; -moz-border-radius:10px&amp;quot;&amp;gt;[[User:Hooper|'''&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;background-color:White; color:Black; -moz-border-radius-topleft:10px; -moz-border-radius-bottomleft:10px&amp;quot;&amp;gt;  Hooper  &amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;''']][[User talk:Hooper|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;background-color:Black; color:white; -moz-border-radius-bottomleft:10px; -moz-border-radius-topleft:10px&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;amp;nbsp;talk&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]][[Special:Contributions/Hooper|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;background-color:black; color:white&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;amp;nbsp;contribs&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]][[Special:Emailuser/Hooper|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;background-color:black; color:white; -moz-border-radius-bottomright:10px; -moz-border-radius-topright:10px&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;amp;nbsp;email&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]]&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;&amp;lt;/small&amp;gt; 19:54, 3 September 2009 (MDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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::::Key word is active, not some one-and-done IP addresses. I don't necessarily agree with Surgo's assertion, but I really don't see why Surgo's user page is an issue given anyone can look at the recent activity and judge for themselves. -- [[User:Jota|Jota]] 19:58, 3 September 2009 (MDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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:::::I did miss one person I believe.   Lord Dhazriel.  Even with his edits you still only have 27,889.  Out of '''391,805'''.  True that there is no possibly way to get verifiable stats for say, the last 6 month percentage, but it still isn't close to half. If you want to say &amp;quot;most of the tavern regulars&amp;quot; then you may have some factual truth behind that. &lt;br /&gt;
:::::@Jota, that isn't counting IP addresses at all, actually.  It is an issue because he is a strong proponent (and rightfully so) of factual correctness. &amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;lt;small&amp;gt;&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;border: 1px solid black; -moz-border-radius:10px&amp;quot;&amp;gt;[[User:Hooper|'''&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;background-color:White; color:Black; -moz-border-radius-topleft:10px; -moz-border-radius-bottomleft:10px&amp;quot;&amp;gt;  Hooper  &amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;''']][[User talk:Hooper|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;background-color:Black; color:white; -moz-border-radius-bottomleft:10px; -moz-border-radius-topleft:10px&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;amp;nbsp;talk&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]][[Special:Contributions/Hooper|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;background-color:black; color:white&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;amp;nbsp;contribs&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]][[Special:Emailuser/Hooper|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;background-color:black; color:white; -moz-border-radius-bottomright:10px; -moz-border-radius-topright:10px&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;amp;nbsp;email&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]]&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;&amp;lt;/small&amp;gt; 20:00, 3 September 2009 (MDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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::::::You've missed about 10 people in that list. Once again, just compare the former &amp;quot;active users&amp;quot; list to the current one. And never mind the total ridiculous nature of edit count, which means absolutely nothing. And add to that what Jota just said below me...active users, not one-and-done signups. No, I'm thinking my user page is perfectly factual here. Sorry if you're somehow getting some proxy butthurt for Green Dragon over the split or something. [[User:Surgo|Surgo]] 20:03, 3 September 2009 (MDT)&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
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== Protection for Tome Classes ==&lt;br /&gt;
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I wondered if you want to protect the tome-classes against IP edit. Maybe it would be better?--[[User:Lord Dhazriel|Lord Dhazriel]] 15:21, 27 January 2009 (MST)&lt;br /&gt;
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:I'd be very appreciative, and I'm sure Surgo would be, too. It'd cut back on the amount of edit undoing we'd have to do. What ''is'' it about lately? There's been a bunch of IPs changing random classes and races all over the Wiki... --[[User:Genowhirl|Genowhirl]] 10:15, 28 January 2009 (MST)&lt;br /&gt;
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== For Your Consideration ==&lt;br /&gt;
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I've noticed the ammount of people who have been giving the things made by Frank and K bad ratings before they understood the idea behind the class, and so, have made this template to try and help you guys out:&lt;br /&gt;
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{{Frank and K material}}&lt;br /&gt;
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Hope it helps (also, I officially hand over all rights to this template to you and Genowhirl, since I have no hand in any Frank and K material and don't really know what should or shouldn't go into this template). &amp;amp;rarr; [[User:Rithaniel|&amp;lt;span style=color:Gray; -moz-border-radius-topleft:25px; -moz-border-radius-bottomleft:20px&amp;quot;&amp;gt;Rith&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]]&amp;lt;sup&amp;gt; [[User talk:Rithaniel|&amp;lt;span style=color:black; -moz-border-radius-bottomleft:20px; -moz-border-radius-topleft:20px&amp;quot;&amp;gt;(talk)&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]]&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; 21:45, 14 March 2009 (MDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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:Lol, that is awesome. Thanks dude. [[User:Surgo|Surgo]] 22:00, 14 March 2009 (MDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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::Heh, it's no problem man, just glad I could help. ''':)''' &amp;amp;rarr; [[User:Rithaniel|&amp;lt;span style=color:Gray; -moz-border-radius-topleft:25px; -moz-border-radius-bottomleft:20px&amp;quot;&amp;gt;Rith&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]]&amp;lt;sup&amp;gt; [[User talk:Rithaniel|&amp;lt;span style=color:black; -moz-border-radius-bottomleft:20px; -moz-border-radius-topleft:20px&amp;quot;&amp;gt;(talk)&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]]&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; 01:59, 15 March 2009 (MDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Comment ==&lt;br /&gt;
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Thanks for taking the time to spotlight me in the Tavern. In light of many of the recent discussions going on around the site, I'd much appreciate a more friendly personal approach.  If you don't agree with something I state, that is fine, but please refrain from attacking mine, or anyone elses, intelligence.  Thank you in advance for your cooperation. &amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;lt;small&amp;gt;&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;border: 1px solid blue; -moz-border-radius:10px&amp;quot;&amp;gt;[[User:Hooper|'''&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;background-color:White; color:FireBrick; -moz-border-radius-topleft:10px; -moz-border-radius-bottomleft:10px&amp;quot;&amp;gt;  Hooper  &amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;''']][[User talk:Hooper|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;background-color:red; color:blue; -moz-border-radius-bottomleft:10px; -moz-border-radius-topleft:10px&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;amp;nbsp;talk&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]][[Special:Contributions/Hooper|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;background-color:red; color:blue&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;amp;nbsp;contribs&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]][[Special:Emailuser/Hooper|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;background-color:red; color:blue; -moz-border-radius-bottomright:10px; -moz-border-radius-topright:10px&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;amp;nbsp;email&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]]&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;&amp;lt;/small&amp;gt; 01:18, 15 March 2009 (MDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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:What? Where was I attacking your intelligence? I remember saying you were impervious to logic, for the reason of [[Talk:Incompetent (DnD Flaw)]], which is not the same thing as attacking your intelligence. [[User:Surgo|Surgo]] 01:27, 15 March 2009 (MDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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::Being impervious to logic means one is unaffected or unable to be affected by logic.  This brings up the question of &amp;quot;if one is rude in The Tavern should it count as the same as being rude while editing?&amp;quot;  If so it would almost be as if everyone who uses the tavern would get an instant permanent ban.  Huh.  Personally I say no - when Tavern Admins come around they should just use their own judgement.  And before that time keep it like it is - The Tavern has no effect on the wiki.  --[[User:Green Dragon|Green Dragon]] 09:32, 15 March 2009 (MDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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I don't know what people really wanted for Alchemical Potions so i just made this shinanigan for the peeps. you can make it the way you think it should be. --[[User:D.M.DemonicPanda|D.M.DemonicPanda]] 21:57, 3 April 2009&lt;br /&gt;
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''Comment moved to [[Talk:Alchemist (DnD Class)]]..''&lt;br /&gt;
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== Apology ==&lt;br /&gt;
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Hey, me again. I just wanted to apologize for calling you a power gamer, in case you didn't see the apology on the [[Talk:Incompetent (DnD Flaw)]] page. I can get quite stubborn sometimes. Sorry!--[[User:Fathirian Hound|Fathirian Hound]] 09:15, 20 March 2009 (MDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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:Don't worry about it, dude. [[User:Surgo|Surgo]] 22:26, 20 March 2009 (MDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Barnstar ==&lt;br /&gt;
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{{Barnstar|Thanks for nominating the [[DnD Flaws|flaws]] with purely roleplaying benefits for deletion, and nominating the unusable [[3.5e Quests|quests]] for deletion.  Thanks for helping out with a little spring cleaning.  --[[User:Green Dragon|Green Dragon]] 04:03, 22 March 2009 (MDT)}}&lt;br /&gt;
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== Adminship ==&lt;br /&gt;
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Welcome to Adminship.  You are now part of &amp;quot;The Face&amp;quot; of D&amp;amp;D Wiki.  Honestly, as you will notice, not much has been changed now that you are an admin.  If anything, I would say more burden is placed on you.  But first, for the the new features and their uses.  You can now delete pages, protect pages, rollback edits, block users and IP's, edit every page, patrol edits, and do a couple more minor things.&lt;br /&gt;
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;What it is:&lt;br /&gt;
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*What deleting pages is, is self explanatory.&lt;br /&gt;
*What protecting pages is, is also pretty self explanatory.&lt;br /&gt;
*Rolling back edits is a method for removing spam.  It is more powerful than the conventional method of undoing edits.  Instead of showing a diff of the edit in question once clicked, it instantly rollsback all the edits by the user or IP in question on a certain page.  For example if I edited my user page and you clicked &amp;quot;rollback&amp;quot; on that edit it would rollback all the edits up to the point where someone else has edited it.  Be careful using this, it can be very helpful but also very harmful.&lt;br /&gt;
*What blocking users and IP's is, is also self explanatory.&lt;br /&gt;
*Editing every page is another self explanatory one.&lt;br /&gt;
*Patrolling edits is a method for keeping [[Special:Recentchanges|RC]] in check, it can be seen once a diff is clicked.  All it does is, once &amp;quot;Mark as Patrolled Edits&amp;quot; is clicked, it marks the edits as patrolled so the edit will no longer show up on [[Special:Recentchanges|RC]] when &amp;quot;Hide Patrolled&amp;quot; is marked.&lt;br /&gt;
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;When or how it should be used&lt;br /&gt;
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*Deleting pages is done through [[:Category:Candidates for Deletion]].&lt;br /&gt;
*Protecting pages has quite a few different times when it should be used.  Pages should be protected according to the author's wishes (with [[Template:Locked Page]] added to the top of the page in question), in case of conflict  (with [[Template:Temp Locked Page]] added to the top of the page in question), in case of [[Help:FAQ#What are OGL, OGC, SRD, and GNU FPL?|OGC]] published materials (with [[Template:OGL Top]] added to the top of the page in question  and [[Template:OGL Bottom]] added to the bottom), or finally if the page is a vital part of D&amp;amp;D Wiki's infrastructure.  If it deals with D&amp;amp;D Wiki's infrastructure it either needs to be be protected from IP edits or all non-sysop edits.  As a rule of thumb pages up to two tiers deep from the [[Main Page]] are normally locked to anyone but sysops and all the others are just protected from IP edits.  For Example [[Dungeons and Dragons]] is protected from all non-sysop edits whereas a deeper in page like [[LA 0 Races]] is only protected from IP edits.  No template has to be added to pages if thay are part of D&amp;amp;D Wiki's organization (even though some do exist like [[Template:Admin Locked Page]])&lt;br /&gt;
*Blocking a user or IP should only be used after an IP or user vandalizes a certain page.  To block someone just click &amp;quot;block&amp;quot; (found either on [[Special:Recentchanges|RC]] or the diff in question) and fill out the corresponding form.  For a typical vandalism attack I normally block the user for two weeks.&lt;br /&gt;
*Editing every page on D&amp;amp;D Wiki mostly means you can now edit the [[SRD:System Reference Document|SRD]] and the [[MSRD:Modern System Reference Document|MSRD]].  Feel free to edit them if you find inaccuracies, and please feel free to help out with [[SRD Talk:System Reference Document#SRD ToDo List]] or [[MSRD Talk:Modern System Reference Document#Tasks]].&lt;br /&gt;
*Patrolling edits should be used when you have looked over an edit and fixed everything that needs to be fixed.   (this includes answering questions, sending MoI's, etc).&lt;br /&gt;
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You have more burden on yourself now that you are an admin because users will be looking at you for editing help, knowledge of D&amp;amp;D, editing guidelines, the standards, etc etc.  It's a bit more work, but I really hope you enjoy being an admin.  --[[User:Green Dragon|Green Dragon]] 13:12, 5 April 2009 (MDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Re: Thank You ==&lt;br /&gt;
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Why you're very welcome, I think I'll enjoy it when the job's done, yes...&lt;br /&gt;
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== AdminBadge ==&lt;br /&gt;
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I'd like to label you as an admin with the &amp;lt;s&amp;gt;&amp;lt;nowiki&amp;gt;[[Template:AdminBadge]]&amp;lt;/nowiki&amp;gt;&amp;lt;/s&amp;gt; on your user page. If you have a reason you don't think you should have the badge or you don't think the badge is a good idea, please discuss it on the badge's [[Template talk:AdminBadge|discussion]]. -[[User:Valentine the Rogue|Valentine the Rogue]] 16:08, 11 April 2009 (MDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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:I'm not going to put it on my page, because I don't want people to treat me differently because I'm an admin. [[User:Surgo|Surgo]] 17:10, 15 April 2009 (MDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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==Adminship==&lt;br /&gt;
Due to my recent illness and moving I've been on very sporadically and as such was not able to comment on your RfA.  However, if I had been able to I would of thrown down a support.  You've done some great things and I especially enjoy the future of your bots. &amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;lt;small&amp;gt;&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;border: 1px solid blue; -moz-border-radius:10px&amp;quot;&amp;gt;[[User:Hooper|'''&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;background-color:White; color:FireBrick; -moz-border-radius-topleft:10px; -moz-border-radius-bottomleft:10px&amp;quot;&amp;gt;  Hooper  &amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;''']][[User talk:Hooper|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;background-color:red; color:blue; -moz-border-radius-bottomleft:10px; -moz-border-radius-topleft:10px&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;amp;nbsp;talk&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]][[Special:Contributions/Hooper|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;background-color:red; color:blue&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;amp;nbsp;contribs&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]][[Special:Emailuser/Hooper|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;background-color:red; color:blue; -moz-border-radius-bottomright:10px; -moz-border-radius-topright:10px&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;amp;nbsp;email&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]]&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;&amp;lt;/small&amp;gt; 10:29, 12 April 2009 (MDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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:Thanks! [[User:Surgo|Surgo]] 17:10, 15 April 2009 (MDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Bot ==&lt;br /&gt;
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[[User:Dmilewski/Wikibot]]&lt;br /&gt;
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From a proper programmer's point of view, the script needs work. From a workhorse point of view, the thing it damned reliable. I usually change the purpose to PRINT to check my work, then run the script as WRITE to save the changes. --[[User:Dmilewski|Dmilewski]] 04:23, 23 April 2009 (MDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Deletion ==&lt;br /&gt;
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On May 12, you deleted two of my classes (Battle Mage and Ulfsark), with the reason for deletion being &amp;quot;Not enough information to be played.  However, both classes were as complete or more complete than any of the SRD classes.[[User:Zyxw59|Zyxw59]] 15:12, 6 July 2009 (MDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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:Don't take my word for it, here they are, temporarily restored: [[Ulfsark (DnD Class)]] and [[Battle Mage (DnD Class)]]. Carry on. --[[User:Ganteka|Ganteka]] 15:27, 6 July 2009 (MDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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::Battle Mage: the mechanics of the blast are never outlined. Ulfsark: There's not enough information to actually ''use'' homeland defense (I'm not sure when it should actually be applied -- something I can't say for any of the SRD classes, which I know exactly how they work). Both classes still have the problem that they're way too weak, though. [[User:Surgo|Surgo]] 22:08, 6 July 2009 (MDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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:::Thanks for the explanation, I will add a description to them.  {{Unsigned|Zyxw59|09:55, 9 July 2009 (MDT)}}&lt;br /&gt;
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::::'''It is still not workable'''. A ranged touch attack, by itself, doesn't tell you its range, among other things. What you NEED to do is go through the pages, pretend you know NOTHING about the classes and you didn't make them, and ''see if there are enough rules written there to '''actually use them'''''. Homeland defense is '''still''' retarded, because at any given point in time a member of my clan somewhere in the world might be attacked and ''how on earth does that work''? Seriously, these are nowhere near SRD level. [[User:Surgo|Surgo]] 14:09, 9 July 2009 (MDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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:::::We have standards on D&amp;amp;D Wiki.  These do not meet them in terms of being usable or not.  As such they got deleted.  If you can fix them in time the deletion is up they will not be deleted.  If not they will be deleted.  --[[User:Green Dragon|Green Dragon]] 17:51, 9 July 2009 (MDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Barnstar the Second ==&lt;br /&gt;
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{{Barnstar|Thanks for making a bot to update all of the breadcrumbs for spells. That saves a lot of manual adjustment (and potential errors caused by manual edits). --[[User:Aarnott|Aarnott]] 22:30, 3 August 2009 (MDT)}}&lt;br /&gt;
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== Gone ==&lt;br /&gt;
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I, along with most of my friends here, have left this wiki due to apparently unresolvable conflict with the administrator to make our own wiki. If you ever need to contact me for some reason, you can email (morgon Dot kanter At gmail Dot com). [[User:Surgo|Surgo]] 08:51, 19 August 2009 (MDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Wikia ==&lt;br /&gt;
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Please do not tell me you deleted wikia's D&amp;amp;D install!  Everyone liked that site as well!  If someone gave you root access to wikia and you deleted their D&amp;amp;D site the whole internet world is going to get '''very''' fucking annoyed with you.&lt;br /&gt;
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Please no.  [http://www.google.com/search?q=wikia+Dungeons+and+Dragons&amp;amp;ie=utf-8&amp;amp;oe=utf-8&amp;amp;aq=t&amp;amp;rls=com.ubuntu:en-US:unofficial&amp;amp;client=firefox-a search criteria].  --[[User:Green Dragon|Green Dragon]] 12:39, 25 August 2009 (MDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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:I cannot find any of the content that was on wikia's dungeons and dragons website anymore.  If you deleted peoples content without any form of permission on wikia because of wrongly given root access the entire internet world will hate you.  All I could find was an archived history of wikia's dungeons and dragons information - [http://www.wikiindex.org/Dungeons_and_Dragons_Wikia].  Other then that I think you may have just shredded wikia's dungeons and dragons section and could be the '''stupidest''' person I have '''ever''' seen or heard from.&lt;br /&gt;
:'''Wikia:''' http://dnd.wikia.com/wiki/Main_Page&lt;br /&gt;
:'''Possible Archive:'''  http://www.wikiindex.org/Dungeons_and_Dragons_Wikia&lt;br /&gt;
:'''Possible Restart:'''  http://dndta.wikia.com/wiki/Dungeons_%26_Dragons_Tiny_Adventures&lt;br /&gt;
:I don't think you understand that people ''worked'' on their content their, the rules were '''different''' their, etc.  --[[User:Green Dragon|Green Dragon]] 13:00, 25 August 2009 (MDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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::I hope you backed it up before you started working their.  I hope you did not shred it.  --[[User:Green Dragon|Green Dragon]] 13:07, 25 August 2009 (MDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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::: Ummm... GD, that's not even their &amp;quot;new&amp;quot; wiki. I don't think Surgo or anyone else from this site has anything to do with that. --[[User:Ghostwheel|Ghostwheel]] 13:09, 25 August 2009 (MDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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:::: I don't get it?  What happened to the DnD wikia?  --[[User:Jay Freedman|Jay Freedman]] 13:11, 25 August 2009 (MDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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:::::Ghost, I think what he means is that all of Wikia is psuedo-linked, and Surgo had needed some additional access/tools to get the new wiki to run the way he needed it to, and may have unknowingly deleted another wikia wiki's information.  Not that I know if that is or not, I just think that is what he means. &amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;lt;small&amp;gt;&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;border: 1px solid black; -moz-border-radius:10px&amp;quot;&amp;gt;[[User:Hooper|'''&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;background-color:White; color:Black; -moz-border-radius-topleft:10px; -moz-border-radius-bottomleft:10px&amp;quot;&amp;gt;  Hooper  &amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;''']][[User talk:Hooper|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;background-color:Black; color:white; -moz-border-radius-bottomleft:10px; -moz-border-radius-topleft:10px&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;amp;nbsp;talk&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]][[Special:Contributions/Hooper|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;background-color:black; color:white&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;amp;nbsp;contribs&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]][[Special:Emailuser/Hooper|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;background-color:black; color:white; -moz-border-radius-bottomright:10px; -moz-border-radius-topright:10px&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;amp;nbsp;email&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]]&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;&amp;lt;/small&amp;gt; 13:27, 25 August 2009 (MDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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{{quote|[[Meta Pages#Policies]]; swearing is a violation of our policies.|[[User:Green Dragon|Green Dragon]]|orig=[[User_talk:Green_Dragon/Archive_15#Harassment|Green Dragon Talk, Archive 15, Subsection &amp;quot;Harassment&amp;quot;]]}}&lt;br /&gt;
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{{quote|[[w:Wikipedia:Civility#Engaging in incivility]]. However you are right, you both deserve a warning.|[[User:Green Dragon|Green Dragon]]|orig=[[User_talk:Green_Dragon/Archive_15#Harassment|Green Dragon Talk, Archive 15, Subsection &amp;quot;Harassment&amp;quot;]]}}&lt;br /&gt;
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{{quote|What does &amp;quot;gross civility&amp;quot; even mean to you[Sic]? ...|[[User:Dragon Child|Dragon Child]]|orig=[[User_talk:Green_Dragon/Archive_15#Harassment|Green Dragon Talk, Archive 15, Subsection &amp;quot;Harassment&amp;quot;]]}}&lt;br /&gt;
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*Rudeness&lt;br /&gt;
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Should fall under those options.|[[User:Green Dragon|Green Dragon]]|orig=[[User_talk:Green_Dragon/Archive_15#Harassment|Green Dragon Talk, Archive 15, Subsection &amp;quot;Harassment&amp;quot;]]}}&lt;br /&gt;
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:::::: Acting as a People's Repesentitive of Law and Order (as laid down by bureaucrat [[User:Green Dragon|Green Dragon]]), I, hereby, warn you, [[User:Green Dragon|Green Dragon]], for your conduct in this section of [[User:Surgo|Surgo]]'s talk page. Let it be known that none think themselves above the rules of site, otherwise it descends into anarchy or worse; despotism! I am sure you will receive this warning with the grace and style you have so accustomed to yourself in your previous actions.&lt;br /&gt;
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:::::: Thank you for your co-operation. --[[User:TK-Squared|TK-Squared]] 13:31, 25 August 2009 (MDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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:::::::TK, good to see you!  Could you place the same warning on GD's talk page for Jota's cursing too please?  Thanks! &amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;lt;small&amp;gt;&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;border: 1px solid black; -moz-border-radius:10px&amp;quot;&amp;gt;[[User:Hooper|'''&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;background-color:White; color:Black; -moz-border-radius-topleft:10px; -moz-border-radius-bottomleft:10px&amp;quot;&amp;gt;  Hooper  &amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;''']][[User talk:Hooper|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;background-color:Black; color:white; -moz-border-radius-bottomleft:10px; -moz-border-radius-topleft:10px&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;amp;nbsp;talk&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]][[Special:Contributions/Hooper|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;background-color:black; color:white&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;amp;nbsp;contribs&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]][[Special:Emailuser/Hooper|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;background-color:black; color:white; -moz-border-radius-bottomright:10px; -moz-border-radius-topright:10px&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;amp;nbsp;email&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]]&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;&amp;lt;/small&amp;gt; 13:33, 25 August 2009 (MDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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:::::::: (Sigh) This warning should go over real well... (Patiently awaiting the public executions to come.)  Haha. Jk.  What up TK!  We love you man.  --[[User:Jay Freedman|Jay Freedman]] 13:56, 25 August 2009 (MDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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:::::::::Their are stupid people in the world...  That's not name calling &amp;amp;mdash; it's brutal honesty.  And [[User:TK-Squared|TK-Squared]] you have zero authority here; do not act like you do.  Also I am pretty positive you deleted the old wikia's D&amp;amp;D wiki.  I have no idea what wikia was thinking to let you have root access to their servers.  I am calling them dumb people as well.  You ruined a wiki in about 10 minutes and you have no regret?  Everyone liked that site as well and all you people can do is bitch at me about it?  Don't just sit around bitching to me about yur petty problems - get back the damn website.  I have had people unrestore shift-deleted things before.  If you did not shred it there is still a chance you can get it back.  Do something!  Don't just mope and gripe to me about your petty authority problems; fix your mistakes.  --[[User:Green Dragon|Green Dragon]] 16:20, 25 August 2009 (MDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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:::::::::: lol wut --[[User:TK-Squared|TK-Squared]] 16:45, 25 August 2009 (MDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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::::::::::: Green Dragon, what are you even talking about? NOBODY here had anything to do with that wiki at all! [[User:Dragon Child|Dragon Child]] 16:46, 25 August 2009 (MDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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:'''What the hell'''? Listen Green Dragon, you fucking moron. While I'd normally be honored to be so vilified by the likes of you, this is just retarded. The last time anyone did anything on that other wiki was in 2007. If you think I somehow &amp;quot;deleted&amp;quot; their wiki (as if that's even possible on wikia), that makes you even dumber than I had originally given you credit for. (And yes, I did think about adopting that one in like with the wikia policy. I decided against it, and instead started my own wiki. Which in one day surpassed their article count by about five-fold.) I have no idea how you even got this stupid idea. [[User:Surgo|Surgo]] 16:58, 25 August 2009 (MDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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::I don't think we should concern ourselves with the two wikis.  Surgo's wiki states on it's main page that it is for Same Game Test material mostly, which will draw a certain demographic.  Ours will draw a different demographic (the material on our site dedicated to SGT and op material is a small percentage, and I'm sure theres will have a small percentage of more core stuff = not enough for either &amp;quot;side&amp;quot; to worry about the other).  If people on one side or the other don't feel like they can help both, then just leave it be.  Everyone is just going to make themselves more upset as they argue. &amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;lt;small&amp;gt;&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;border: 1px solid black; -moz-border-radius:10px&amp;quot;&amp;gt;[[User:Hooper|'''&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;background-color:White; color:Black; -moz-border-radius-topleft:10px; -moz-border-radius-bottomleft:10px&amp;quot;&amp;gt;  Hooper  &amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;''']][[User talk:Hooper|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;background-color:Black; color:white; -moz-border-radius-bottomleft:10px; -moz-border-radius-topleft:10px&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;amp;nbsp;talk&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]][[Special:Contributions/Hooper|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;background-color:black; color:white&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;amp;nbsp;contribs&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]][[Special:Emailuser/Hooper|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;background-color:black; color:white; -moz-border-radius-bottomright:10px; -moz-border-radius-topright:10px&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;amp;nbsp;email&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]]&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;&amp;lt;/small&amp;gt; 18:37, 25 August 2009 (MDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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::: Good advice Hooper.  Of course, a wise sage once said &amp;quot;He who mediates between lions lives short life.&amp;quot;  So while we would like not to worry about wiki wars... (Thats a cool name. Wiki Wars! I love that! Haha! I am so stupid.) ...this will probably continue for some time.  --[[User:Jay Freedman|Jay Freedman]] 18:47, 25 August 2009 (MDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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:::: Hooper, I'm not sure why you insist on misrepresenting me. My wiki does not say that it is mostly for Same Game Test material...at all. It says it's for all material, and anything that doesn't define a balance point is assumed to be Same Game test. I don't know how it can be any more clear than that (which is what it actually says on the front page). Hooper, the only reason I am even posting here is because Green Dragon made some boneheaded accusation he pulled out of his ass. This has nothing to do with &amp;quot;wiki wars&amp;quot; or whatever (unless this is Green Dragon's weird idea of a 'war' or something). [[User:Surgo|Surgo]] 19:04, 25 August 2009 (MDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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:::::Ah, well if something is &amp;quot;assumed to be SGT&amp;quot; instead of assuming it is &amp;quot;core&amp;quot; ''(for lack of a better word)'', I would say that it is just fostering the above kind of thoughts.  People who support the SGT mind frame will be more prone to follow it is all. As I said above, both wikis will have some of each. &amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;lt;small&amp;gt;&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;border: 1px solid black; -moz-border-radius:10px&amp;quot;&amp;gt;[[User:Hooper|'''&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;background-color:White; color:Black; -moz-border-radius-topleft:10px; -moz-border-radius-bottomleft:10px&amp;quot;&amp;gt;  Hooper  &amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;''']][[User talk:Hooper|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;background-color:Black; color:white; -moz-border-radius-bottomleft:10px; -moz-border-radius-topleft:10px&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;amp;nbsp;talk&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]][[Special:Contributions/Hooper|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;background-color:black; color:white&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;amp;nbsp;contribs&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]][[Special:Emailuser/Hooper|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;background-color:black; color:white; -moz-border-radius-bottomright:10px; -moz-border-radius-topright:10px&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;amp;nbsp;email&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]]&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;&amp;lt;/small&amp;gt; 19:09, 25 August 2009 (MDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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::::::The obvious point of contention is that you say SGT and core are not the same; others would argue otherwise. I don't want to turn this discussion into that, but you say po-tay-to, I say po-tah-to. -- [[User:Jota|Jota]] 20:04, 25 August 2009 (MDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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:::::::Does anyone know where all the content on [http://dnd.wikia.com/wiki/Basics_and_Ability_Scores] went?  With the thought in mind of [http://dungeons.wikia.com/wiki/Main_Page] (permissions).  --[[User:Green Dragon|Green Dragon]] 20:44, 25 August 2009 (MDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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::::::::http://dnd.wikia.com/wiki/Special:Contributions/Maunderingcabal  [http://dnd.wikia.com/wiki/Quickling_Runner] [http://dnd.wikia.com/wiki/Guard_Drake] [http://dnd.wikia.com/wiki/Hobgoblin_Warcaster] [http://dnd.wikia.com/wiki/Corruption_Corpse] [http://dnd.wikia.com/wiki/Warforged_Battle_Champion], etc.  --[[User:Green Dragon|Green Dragon]] 20:49, 25 August 2009 (MDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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:::::::::What the hell is your point? How should any of us know where any of their stuff went? I've only looked at that wiki once in my lifetime. [[User:Surgo|Surgo]] 20:51, 25 August 2009 (MDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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::::::::::I'm not Wikia.  I do not know enough in this instance to make a correct judgement.  I am not positive why the content was removed; I am not Wikia.  One would have to look at IP's and permissions on Wikia's backend to get a better judgment.  Who knows; I am not Wikia.  --[[User:Green Dragon|Green Dragon]] 20:59, 25 August 2009 (MDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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:::::::::::I think this is a good example of GD's attitude. As he yells at, makes threats against, and harasses someone who has done nothing wrong, and with no proof to back it up, and instead just throws out random links incoherently. [[User:Dragon Child|Dragon Child]] 20:58, 25 August 2009 (MDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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:::::::::: @GD.  Dude your freakin me out?  Nobody here took their stuff.  That site must just be having problems.  Surgo would probably just base his new wiki off this one anyway.  He wouldn't model his new site of that wikia in a million years.  He would mimic this site and try to improve it, adding &amp;quot;Surgo Flavor&amp;quot; or something.  Nobody I know messed with that empty wikia.  Sorry.  --[[User:Jay Freedman|Jay Freedman]] 21:00, 25 August 2009 (MDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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:::::::::::That's right. You are not Wikia. That means you should not be throwing around wild-ass and incorrect accusations at me. [[User:Surgo|Surgo]] 21:04, 25 August 2009 (MDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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::::::::::::Seriously GD, what the heck are you on about? Given that a lot of us weren't even aware of that site's existence, how do you expect those pages to mean anything to anyone? -- [[User:Jota|Jota]] 21:04, 25 August 2009 (MDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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:::::::::::::Those links you provided don't even have any content missing, as far as I can tell. No other content was added to them besides the picture of the miniature. You're yelling at someone who did nothing over a &amp;quot;crime&amp;quot; that everyone can see doesn't even exist. Perhaps now it's time to call you stupid, and say it's justified, as some people are just stupid? [[User:Dragon Child|Dragon Child]] 21:05, 25 August 2009 (MDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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::What do you mean you have nothing to do with it? You STARTED this discussion, by falsely accusing, nay, OUTRIGHT LYING AND INSULTING SURGO! [[User:Dragon Child|Dragon Child]] 21:39, 25 August 2009 (MDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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:::I asked a question.  --[[User:Green Dragon|Green Dragon]] 21:41, 25 August 2009 (MDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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::::That's pretty funny, because I don't see a question mark in your post. [[User:Surgo|Surgo]] 21:49, 2 September 2009 (MDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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:You guys need to take this discussion (about Wikia's wiki's) onto Wikia's pages. I have nothing to do with it. --[[User:Green Dragon|Green Dragon]] 21:24, 25 August 2009 (MDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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==Factual Statements==&lt;br /&gt;
Recently in our discussions on the possibility of having templates on SGT material, you routinely stated that you believe things should state facts.  I agree.  Completely.  I believe your current user page misrepresents the amount of users who left, and should be altered to be more factually correct ''(i.e. &amp;quot;left with some&amp;quot; instead of the incorrect &amp;quot;most&amp;quot;)''. &amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;lt;small&amp;gt;&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;border: 1px solid black; -moz-border-radius:10px&amp;quot;&amp;gt;[[User:Hooper|'''&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;background-color:White; color:Black; -moz-border-radius-topleft:10px; -moz-border-radius-bottomleft:10px&amp;quot;&amp;gt;  Hooper  &amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;''']][[User talk:Hooper|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;background-color:Black; color:white; -moz-border-radius-bottomleft:10px; -moz-border-radius-topleft:10px&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;amp;nbsp;talk&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]][[Special:Contributions/Hooper|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;background-color:black; color:white&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;amp;nbsp;contribs&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]][[Special:Emailuser/Hooper|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;background-color:black; color:white; -moz-border-radius-bottomright:10px; -moz-border-radius-topright:10px&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;amp;nbsp;email&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]]&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;&amp;lt;/small&amp;gt; 14:59, 3 September 2009 (MDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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:Perhaps if you feel it is infactual, you should tell me actual percentages of users that have left so it can have the utmost accuracy. After all, looking at your current and former &amp;quot;active users&amp;quot; list, I believe that what I said is entirely factual. So I think you are wrong. [[User:Surgo|Surgo]] 17:24, 3 September 2009 (MDT)&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
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== Protection for Tome Classes ==&lt;br /&gt;
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I wondered if you want to protect the tome-classes against IP edit. Maybe it would be better?--[[User:Lord Dhazriel|Lord Dhazriel]] 15:21, 27 January 2009 (MST)&lt;br /&gt;
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:I'd be very appreciative, and I'm sure Surgo would be, too. It'd cut back on the amount of edit undoing we'd have to do. What ''is'' it about lately? There's been a bunch of IPs changing random classes and races all over the Wiki... --[[User:Genowhirl|Genowhirl]] 10:15, 28 January 2009 (MST)&lt;br /&gt;
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== For Your Consideration ==&lt;br /&gt;
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I've noticed the ammount of people who have been giving the things made by Frank and K bad ratings before they understood the idea behind the class, and so, have made this template to try and help you guys out:&lt;br /&gt;
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{{Frank and K material}}&lt;br /&gt;
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Hope it helps (also, I officially hand over all rights to this template to you and Genowhirl, since I have no hand in any Frank and K material and don't really know what should or shouldn't go into this template). &amp;amp;rarr; [[User:Rithaniel|&amp;lt;span style=color:Gray; -moz-border-radius-topleft:25px; -moz-border-radius-bottomleft:20px&amp;quot;&amp;gt;Rith&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]]&amp;lt;sup&amp;gt; [[User talk:Rithaniel|&amp;lt;span style=color:black; -moz-border-radius-bottomleft:20px; -moz-border-radius-topleft:20px&amp;quot;&amp;gt;(talk)&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]]&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; 21:45, 14 March 2009 (MDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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:Lol, that is awesome. Thanks dude. [[User:Surgo|Surgo]] 22:00, 14 March 2009 (MDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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::Heh, it's no problem man, just glad I could help. ''':)''' &amp;amp;rarr; [[User:Rithaniel|&amp;lt;span style=color:Gray; -moz-border-radius-topleft:25px; -moz-border-radius-bottomleft:20px&amp;quot;&amp;gt;Rith&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]]&amp;lt;sup&amp;gt; [[User talk:Rithaniel|&amp;lt;span style=color:black; -moz-border-radius-bottomleft:20px; -moz-border-radius-topleft:20px&amp;quot;&amp;gt;(talk)&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]]&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; 01:59, 15 March 2009 (MDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Comment ==&lt;br /&gt;
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Thanks for taking the time to spotlight me in the Tavern. In light of many of the recent discussions going on around the site, I'd much appreciate a more friendly personal approach.  If you don't agree with something I state, that is fine, but please refrain from attacking mine, or anyone elses, intelligence.  Thank you in advance for your cooperation. &amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;lt;small&amp;gt;&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;border: 1px solid blue; -moz-border-radius:10px&amp;quot;&amp;gt;[[User:Hooper|'''&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;background-color:White; color:FireBrick; -moz-border-radius-topleft:10px; -moz-border-radius-bottomleft:10px&amp;quot;&amp;gt;  Hooper  &amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;''']][[User talk:Hooper|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;background-color:red; color:blue; -moz-border-radius-bottomleft:10px; -moz-border-radius-topleft:10px&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;amp;nbsp;talk&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]][[Special:Contributions/Hooper|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;background-color:red; color:blue&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;amp;nbsp;contribs&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]][[Special:Emailuser/Hooper|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;background-color:red; color:blue; -moz-border-radius-bottomright:10px; -moz-border-radius-topright:10px&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;amp;nbsp;email&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]]&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;&amp;lt;/small&amp;gt; 01:18, 15 March 2009 (MDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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:What? Where was I attacking your intelligence? I remember saying you were impervious to logic, for the reason of [[Talk:Incompetent (DnD Flaw)]], which is not the same thing as attacking your intelligence. [[User:Surgo|Surgo]] 01:27, 15 March 2009 (MDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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::Being impervious to logic means one is unaffected or unable to be affected by logic.  This brings up the question of &amp;quot;if one is rude in The Tavern should it count as the same as being rude while editing?&amp;quot;  If so it would almost be as if everyone who uses the tavern would get an instant permanent ban.  Huh.  Personally I say no - when Tavern Admins come around they should just use their own judgement.  And before that time keep it like it is - The Tavern has no effect on the wiki.  --[[User:Green Dragon|Green Dragon]] 09:32, 15 March 2009 (MDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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I don't know what people really wanted for Alchemical Potions so i just made this shinanigan for the peeps. you can make it the way you think it should be. --[[User:D.M.DemonicPanda|D.M.DemonicPanda]] 21:57, 3 April 2009&lt;br /&gt;
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== Apology ==&lt;br /&gt;
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Hey, me again. I just wanted to apologize for calling you a power gamer, in case you didn't see the apology on the [[Talk:Incompetent (DnD Flaw)]] page. I can get quite stubborn sometimes. Sorry!--[[User:Fathirian Hound|Fathirian Hound]] 09:15, 20 March 2009 (MDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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:Don't worry about it, dude. [[User:Surgo|Surgo]] 22:26, 20 March 2009 (MDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Barnstar ==&lt;br /&gt;
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{{Barnstar|Thanks for nominating the [[DnD Flaws|flaws]] with purely roleplaying benefits for deletion, and nominating the unusable [[3.5e Quests|quests]] for deletion.  Thanks for helping out with a little spring cleaning.  --[[User:Green Dragon|Green Dragon]] 04:03, 22 March 2009 (MDT)}}&lt;br /&gt;
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== Adminship ==&lt;br /&gt;
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Welcome to Adminship.  You are now part of &amp;quot;The Face&amp;quot; of D&amp;amp;D Wiki.  Honestly, as you will notice, not much has been changed now that you are an admin.  If anything, I would say more burden is placed on you.  But first, for the the new features and their uses.  You can now delete pages, protect pages, rollback edits, block users and IP's, edit every page, patrol edits, and do a couple more minor things.&lt;br /&gt;
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;What it is:&lt;br /&gt;
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*What deleting pages is, is self explanatory.&lt;br /&gt;
*What protecting pages is, is also pretty self explanatory.&lt;br /&gt;
*Rolling back edits is a method for removing spam.  It is more powerful than the conventional method of undoing edits.  Instead of showing a diff of the edit in question once clicked, it instantly rollsback all the edits by the user or IP in question on a certain page.  For example if I edited my user page and you clicked &amp;quot;rollback&amp;quot; on that edit it would rollback all the edits up to the point where someone else has edited it.  Be careful using this, it can be very helpful but also very harmful.&lt;br /&gt;
*What blocking users and IP's is, is also self explanatory.&lt;br /&gt;
*Editing every page is another self explanatory one.&lt;br /&gt;
*Patrolling edits is a method for keeping [[Special:Recentchanges|RC]] in check, it can be seen once a diff is clicked.  All it does is, once &amp;quot;Mark as Patrolled Edits&amp;quot; is clicked, it marks the edits as patrolled so the edit will no longer show up on [[Special:Recentchanges|RC]] when &amp;quot;Hide Patrolled&amp;quot; is marked.&lt;br /&gt;
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;When or how it should be used&lt;br /&gt;
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*Deleting pages is done through [[:Category:Candidates for Deletion]].&lt;br /&gt;
*Protecting pages has quite a few different times when it should be used.  Pages should be protected according to the author's wishes (with [[Template:Locked Page]] added to the top of the page in question), in case of conflict  (with [[Template:Temp Locked Page]] added to the top of the page in question), in case of [[Help:FAQ#What are OGL, OGC, SRD, and GNU FPL?|OGC]] published materials (with [[Template:OGL Top]] added to the top of the page in question  and [[Template:OGL Bottom]] added to the bottom), or finally if the page is a vital part of D&amp;amp;D Wiki's infrastructure.  If it deals with D&amp;amp;D Wiki's infrastructure it either needs to be be protected from IP edits or all non-sysop edits.  As a rule of thumb pages up to two tiers deep from the [[Main Page]] are normally locked to anyone but sysops and all the others are just protected from IP edits.  For Example [[Dungeons and Dragons]] is protected from all non-sysop edits whereas a deeper in page like [[LA 0 Races]] is only protected from IP edits.  No template has to be added to pages if thay are part of D&amp;amp;D Wiki's organization (even though some do exist like [[Template:Admin Locked Page]])&lt;br /&gt;
*Blocking a user or IP should only be used after an IP or user vandalizes a certain page.  To block someone just click &amp;quot;block&amp;quot; (found either on [[Special:Recentchanges|RC]] or the diff in question) and fill out the corresponding form.  For a typical vandalism attack I normally block the user for two weeks.&lt;br /&gt;
*Editing every page on D&amp;amp;D Wiki mostly means you can now edit the [[SRD:System Reference Document|SRD]] and the [[MSRD:Modern System Reference Document|MSRD]].  Feel free to edit them if you find inaccuracies, and please feel free to help out with [[SRD Talk:System Reference Document#SRD ToDo List]] or [[MSRD Talk:Modern System Reference Document#Tasks]].&lt;br /&gt;
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You have more burden on yourself now that you are an admin because users will be looking at you for editing help, knowledge of D&amp;amp;D, editing guidelines, the standards, etc etc.  It's a bit more work, but I really hope you enjoy being an admin.  --[[User:Green Dragon|Green Dragon]] 13:12, 5 April 2009 (MDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Re: Thank You ==&lt;br /&gt;
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Why you're very welcome, I think I'll enjoy it when the job's done, yes...&lt;br /&gt;
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== AdminBadge ==&lt;br /&gt;
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I'd like to label you as an admin with the &amp;lt;s&amp;gt;&amp;lt;nowiki&amp;gt;[[Template:AdminBadge]]&amp;lt;/nowiki&amp;gt;&amp;lt;/s&amp;gt; on your user page. If you have a reason you don't think you should have the badge or you don't think the badge is a good idea, please discuss it on the badge's [[Template talk:AdminBadge|discussion]]. -[[User:Valentine the Rogue|Valentine the Rogue]] 16:08, 11 April 2009 (MDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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:I'm not going to put it on my page, because I don't want people to treat me differently because I'm an admin. [[User:Surgo|Surgo]] 17:10, 15 April 2009 (MDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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Due to my recent illness and moving I've been on very sporadically and as such was not able to comment on your RfA.  However, if I had been able to I would of thrown down a support.  You've done some great things and I especially enjoy the future of your bots. &amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;lt;small&amp;gt;&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;border: 1px solid blue; -moz-border-radius:10px&amp;quot;&amp;gt;[[User:Hooper|'''&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;background-color:White; color:FireBrick; -moz-border-radius-topleft:10px; -moz-border-radius-bottomleft:10px&amp;quot;&amp;gt;  Hooper  &amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;''']][[User talk:Hooper|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;background-color:red; color:blue; -moz-border-radius-bottomleft:10px; -moz-border-radius-topleft:10px&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;amp;nbsp;talk&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]][[Special:Contributions/Hooper|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;background-color:red; color:blue&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;amp;nbsp;contribs&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]][[Special:Emailuser/Hooper|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;background-color:red; color:blue; -moz-border-radius-bottomright:10px; -moz-border-radius-topright:10px&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;amp;nbsp;email&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]]&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;&amp;lt;/small&amp;gt; 10:29, 12 April 2009 (MDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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:Thanks! [[User:Surgo|Surgo]] 17:10, 15 April 2009 (MDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Bot ==&lt;br /&gt;
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From a proper programmer's point of view, the script needs work. From a workhorse point of view, the thing it damned reliable. I usually change the purpose to PRINT to check my work, then run the script as WRITE to save the changes. --[[User:Dmilewski|Dmilewski]] 04:23, 23 April 2009 (MDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Deletion ==&lt;br /&gt;
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On May 12, you deleted two of my classes (Battle Mage and Ulfsark), with the reason for deletion being &amp;quot;Not enough information to be played.  However, both classes were as complete or more complete than any of the SRD classes.[[User:Zyxw59|Zyxw59]] 15:12, 6 July 2009 (MDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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:Don't take my word for it, here they are, temporarily restored: [[Ulfsark (DnD Class)]] and [[Battle Mage (DnD Class)]]. Carry on. --[[User:Ganteka|Ganteka]] 15:27, 6 July 2009 (MDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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::Battle Mage: the mechanics of the blast are never outlined. Ulfsark: There's not enough information to actually ''use'' homeland defense (I'm not sure when it should actually be applied -- something I can't say for any of the SRD classes, which I know exactly how they work). Both classes still have the problem that they're way too weak, though. [[User:Surgo|Surgo]] 22:08, 6 July 2009 (MDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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:::Thanks for the explanation, I will add a description to them.  {{Unsigned|Zyxw59|09:55, 9 July 2009 (MDT)}}&lt;br /&gt;
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::::'''It is still not workable'''. A ranged touch attack, by itself, doesn't tell you its range, among other things. What you NEED to do is go through the pages, pretend you know NOTHING about the classes and you didn't make them, and ''see if there are enough rules written there to '''actually use them'''''. Homeland defense is '''still''' retarded, because at any given point in time a member of my clan somewhere in the world might be attacked and ''how on earth does that work''? Seriously, these are nowhere near SRD level. [[User:Surgo|Surgo]] 14:09, 9 July 2009 (MDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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:::::We have standards on D&amp;amp;D Wiki.  These do not meet them in terms of being usable or not.  As such they got deleted.  If you can fix them in time the deletion is up they will not be deleted.  If not they will be deleted.  --[[User:Green Dragon|Green Dragon]] 17:51, 9 July 2009 (MDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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{{Barnstar|Thanks for making a bot to update all of the breadcrumbs for spells. That saves a lot of manual adjustment (and potential errors caused by manual edits). --[[User:Aarnott|Aarnott]] 22:30, 3 August 2009 (MDT)}}&lt;br /&gt;
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== Gone ==&lt;br /&gt;
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I, along with most of my friends here, have left this wiki due to apparently unresolvable conflict with the administrator to make our own wiki. If you ever need to contact me for some reason, you can email (morgon Dot kanter At gmail Dot com). [[User:Surgo|Surgo]] 08:51, 19 August 2009 (MDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Wikia ==&lt;br /&gt;
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Please do not tell me you deleted wikia's D&amp;amp;D install!  Everyone liked that site as well!  If someone gave you root access to wikia and you deleted their D&amp;amp;D site the whole internet world is going to get '''very''' fucking annoyed with you.&lt;br /&gt;
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Please no.  [http://www.google.com/search?q=wikia+Dungeons+and+Dragons&amp;amp;ie=utf-8&amp;amp;oe=utf-8&amp;amp;aq=t&amp;amp;rls=com.ubuntu:en-US:unofficial&amp;amp;client=firefox-a search criteria].  --[[User:Green Dragon|Green Dragon]] 12:39, 25 August 2009 (MDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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:I cannot find any of the content that was on wikia's dungeons and dragons website anymore.  If you deleted peoples content without any form of permission on wikia because of wrongly given root access the entire internet world will hate you.  All I could find was an archived history of wikia's dungeons and dragons information - [http://www.wikiindex.org/Dungeons_and_Dragons_Wikia].  Other then that I think you may have just shredded wikia's dungeons and dragons section and could be the '''stupidest''' person I have '''ever''' seen or heard from.&lt;br /&gt;
:'''Wikia:''' http://dnd.wikia.com/wiki/Main_Page&lt;br /&gt;
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:I don't think you understand that people ''worked'' on their content their, the rules were '''different''' their, etc.  --[[User:Green Dragon|Green Dragon]] 13:00, 25 August 2009 (MDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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::I hope you backed it up before you started working their.  I hope you did not shred it.  --[[User:Green Dragon|Green Dragon]] 13:07, 25 August 2009 (MDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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::: Ummm... GD, that's not even their &amp;quot;new&amp;quot; wiki. I don't think Surgo or anyone else from this site has anything to do with that. --[[User:Ghostwheel|Ghostwheel]] 13:09, 25 August 2009 (MDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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:::: I don't get it?  What happened to the DnD wikia?  --[[User:Jay Freedman|Jay Freedman]] 13:11, 25 August 2009 (MDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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:::::Ghost, I think what he means is that all of Wikia is psuedo-linked, and Surgo had needed some additional access/tools to get the new wiki to run the way he needed it to, and may have unknowingly deleted another wikia wiki's information.  Not that I know if that is or not, I just think that is what he means. &amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;lt;small&amp;gt;&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;border: 1px solid black; -moz-border-radius:10px&amp;quot;&amp;gt;[[User:Hooper|'''&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;background-color:White; color:Black; -moz-border-radius-topleft:10px; -moz-border-radius-bottomleft:10px&amp;quot;&amp;gt;  Hooper  &amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;''']][[User talk:Hooper|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;background-color:Black; color:white; -moz-border-radius-bottomleft:10px; -moz-border-radius-topleft:10px&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;amp;nbsp;talk&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]][[Special:Contributions/Hooper|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;background-color:black; color:white&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;amp;nbsp;contribs&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]][[Special:Emailuser/Hooper|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;background-color:black; color:white; -moz-border-radius-bottomright:10px; -moz-border-radius-topright:10px&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;amp;nbsp;email&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]]&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;&amp;lt;/small&amp;gt; 13:27, 25 August 2009 (MDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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{{quote|[[Meta Pages#Policies]]; swearing is a violation of our policies.|[[User:Green Dragon|Green Dragon]]|orig=[[User_talk:Green_Dragon/Archive_15#Harassment|Green Dragon Talk, Archive 15, Subsection &amp;quot;Harassment&amp;quot;]]}}&lt;br /&gt;
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{{quote|[[w:Wikipedia:Civility#Engaging in incivility]]. However you are right, you both deserve a warning.|[[User:Green Dragon|Green Dragon]]|orig=[[User_talk:Green_Dragon/Archive_15#Harassment|Green Dragon Talk, Archive 15, Subsection &amp;quot;Harassment&amp;quot;]]}}&lt;br /&gt;
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{{quote|What does &amp;quot;gross civility&amp;quot; even mean to you[Sic]? ...|[[User:Dragon Child|Dragon Child]]|orig=[[User_talk:Green_Dragon/Archive_15#Harassment|Green Dragon Talk, Archive 15, Subsection &amp;quot;Harassment&amp;quot;]]}}&lt;br /&gt;
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Should fall under those options.|[[User:Green Dragon|Green Dragon]]|orig=[[User_talk:Green_Dragon/Archive_15#Harassment|Green Dragon Talk, Archive 15, Subsection &amp;quot;Harassment&amp;quot;]]}}&lt;br /&gt;
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:::::: Acting as a People's Repesentitive of Law and Order (as laid down by bureaucrat [[User:Green Dragon|Green Dragon]]), I, hereby, warn you, [[User:Green Dragon|Green Dragon]], for your conduct in this section of [[User:Surgo|Surgo]]'s talk page. Let it be known that none think themselves above the rules of site, otherwise it descends into anarchy or worse; despotism! I am sure you will receive this warning with the grace and style you have so accustomed to yourself in your previous actions.&lt;br /&gt;
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:::::: Thank you for your co-operation. --[[User:TK-Squared|TK-Squared]] 13:31, 25 August 2009 (MDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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:::::::TK, good to see you!  Could you place the same warning on GD's talk page for Jota's cursing too please?  Thanks! &amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;lt;small&amp;gt;&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;border: 1px solid black; -moz-border-radius:10px&amp;quot;&amp;gt;[[User:Hooper|'''&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;background-color:White; color:Black; -moz-border-radius-topleft:10px; -moz-border-radius-bottomleft:10px&amp;quot;&amp;gt;  Hooper  &amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;''']][[User talk:Hooper|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;background-color:Black; color:white; -moz-border-radius-bottomleft:10px; -moz-border-radius-topleft:10px&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;amp;nbsp;talk&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]][[Special:Contributions/Hooper|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;background-color:black; color:white&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;amp;nbsp;contribs&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]][[Special:Emailuser/Hooper|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;background-color:black; color:white; -moz-border-radius-bottomright:10px; -moz-border-radius-topright:10px&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;amp;nbsp;email&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]]&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;&amp;lt;/small&amp;gt; 13:33, 25 August 2009 (MDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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:::::::: (Sigh) This warning should go over real well... (Patiently awaiting the public executions to come.)  Haha. Jk.  What up TK!  We love you man.  --[[User:Jay Freedman|Jay Freedman]] 13:56, 25 August 2009 (MDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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:::::::::Their are stupid people in the world...  That's not name calling &amp;amp;mdash; it's brutal honesty.  And [[User:TK-Squared|TK-Squared]] you have zero authority here; do not act like you do.  Also I am pretty positive you deleted the old wikia's D&amp;amp;D wiki.  I have no idea what wikia was thinking to let you have root access to their servers.  I am calling them dumb people as well.  You ruined a wiki in about 10 minutes and you have no regret?  Everyone liked that site as well and all you people can do is bitch at me about it?  Don't just sit around bitching to me about yur petty problems - get back the damn website.  I have had people unrestore shift-deleted things before.  If you did not shred it there is still a chance you can get it back.  Do something!  Don't just mope and gripe to me about your petty authority problems; fix your mistakes.  --[[User:Green Dragon|Green Dragon]] 16:20, 25 August 2009 (MDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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:::::::::: lol wut --[[User:TK-Squared|TK-Squared]] 16:45, 25 August 2009 (MDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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::::::::::: Green Dragon, what are you even talking about? NOBODY here had anything to do with that wiki at all! [[User:Dragon Child|Dragon Child]] 16:46, 25 August 2009 (MDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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:'''What the hell'''? Listen Green Dragon, you fucking moron. While I'd normally be honored to be so vilified by the likes of you, this is just retarded. The last time anyone did anything on that other wiki was in 2007. If you think I somehow &amp;quot;deleted&amp;quot; their wiki (as if that's even possible on wikia), that makes you even dumber than I had originally given you credit for. (And yes, I did think about adopting that one in like with the wikia policy. I decided against it, and instead started my own wiki. Which in one day surpassed their article count by about five-fold.) I have no idea how you even got this stupid idea. [[User:Surgo|Surgo]] 16:58, 25 August 2009 (MDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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::I don't think we should concern ourselves with the two wikis.  Surgo's wiki states on it's main page that it is for Same Game Test material mostly, which will draw a certain demographic.  Ours will draw a different demographic (the material on our site dedicated to SGT and op material is a small percentage, and I'm sure theres will have a small percentage of more core stuff = not enough for either &amp;quot;side&amp;quot; to worry about the other).  If people on one side or the other don't feel like they can help both, then just leave it be.  Everyone is just going to make themselves more upset as they argue. &amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;lt;small&amp;gt;&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;border: 1px solid black; -moz-border-radius:10px&amp;quot;&amp;gt;[[User:Hooper|'''&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;background-color:White; color:Black; -moz-border-radius-topleft:10px; -moz-border-radius-bottomleft:10px&amp;quot;&amp;gt;  Hooper  &amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;''']][[User talk:Hooper|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;background-color:Black; color:white; -moz-border-radius-bottomleft:10px; -moz-border-radius-topleft:10px&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;amp;nbsp;talk&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]][[Special:Contributions/Hooper|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;background-color:black; color:white&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;amp;nbsp;contribs&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]][[Special:Emailuser/Hooper|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;background-color:black; color:white; -moz-border-radius-bottomright:10px; -moz-border-radius-topright:10px&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;amp;nbsp;email&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]]&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;&amp;lt;/small&amp;gt; 18:37, 25 August 2009 (MDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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::: Good advice Hooper.  Of course, a wise sage once said &amp;quot;He who mediates between lions lives short life.&amp;quot;  So while we would like not to worry about wiki wars... (Thats a cool name. Wiki Wars! I love that! Haha! I am so stupid.) ...this will probably continue for some time.  --[[User:Jay Freedman|Jay Freedman]] 18:47, 25 August 2009 (MDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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:::: Hooper, I'm not sure why you insist on misrepresenting me. My wiki does not say that it is mostly for Same Game Test material...at all. It says it's for all material, and anything that doesn't define a balance point is assumed to be Same Game test. I don't know how it can be any more clear than that (which is what it actually says on the front page). Hooper, the only reason I am even posting here is because Green Dragon made some boneheaded accusation he pulled out of his ass. This has nothing to do with &amp;quot;wiki wars&amp;quot; or whatever (unless this is Green Dragon's weird idea of a 'war' or something). [[User:Surgo|Surgo]] 19:04, 25 August 2009 (MDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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:::::Ah, well if something is &amp;quot;assumed to be SGT&amp;quot; instead of assuming it is &amp;quot;core&amp;quot; ''(for lack of a better word)'', I would say that it is just fostering the above kind of thoughts.  People who support the SGT mind frame will be more prone to follow it is all. As I said above, both wikis will have some of each. &amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;lt;small&amp;gt;&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;border: 1px solid black; -moz-border-radius:10px&amp;quot;&amp;gt;[[User:Hooper|'''&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;background-color:White; color:Black; -moz-border-radius-topleft:10px; -moz-border-radius-bottomleft:10px&amp;quot;&amp;gt;  Hooper  &amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;''']][[User talk:Hooper|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;background-color:Black; color:white; -moz-border-radius-bottomleft:10px; -moz-border-radius-topleft:10px&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;amp;nbsp;talk&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]][[Special:Contributions/Hooper|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;background-color:black; color:white&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;amp;nbsp;contribs&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]][[Special:Emailuser/Hooper|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;background-color:black; color:white; -moz-border-radius-bottomright:10px; -moz-border-radius-topright:10px&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;amp;nbsp;email&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]]&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;&amp;lt;/small&amp;gt; 19:09, 25 August 2009 (MDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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::::::The obvious point of contention is that you say SGT and core are not the same; others would argue otherwise. I don't want to turn this discussion into that, but you say po-tay-to, I say po-tah-to. -- [[User:Jota|Jota]] 20:04, 25 August 2009 (MDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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:::::::Does anyone know where all the content on [http://dnd.wikia.com/wiki/Basics_and_Ability_Scores] went?  With the thought in mind of [http://dungeons.wikia.com/wiki/Main_Page] (permissions).  --[[User:Green Dragon|Green Dragon]] 20:44, 25 August 2009 (MDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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::::::::http://dnd.wikia.com/wiki/Special:Contributions/Maunderingcabal  [http://dnd.wikia.com/wiki/Quickling_Runner] [http://dnd.wikia.com/wiki/Guard_Drake] [http://dnd.wikia.com/wiki/Hobgoblin_Warcaster] [http://dnd.wikia.com/wiki/Corruption_Corpse] [http://dnd.wikia.com/wiki/Warforged_Battle_Champion], etc.  --[[User:Green Dragon|Green Dragon]] 20:49, 25 August 2009 (MDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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:::::::::What the hell is your point? How should any of us know where any of their stuff went? I've only looked at that wiki once in my lifetime. [[User:Surgo|Surgo]] 20:51, 25 August 2009 (MDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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::::::::::I'm not Wikia.  I do not know enough in this instance to make a correct judgement.  I am not positive why the content was removed; I am not Wikia.  One would have to look at IP's and permissions on Wikia's backend to get a better judgment.  Who knows; I am not Wikia.  --[[User:Green Dragon|Green Dragon]] 20:59, 25 August 2009 (MDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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:::::::::::I think this is a good example of GD's attitude. As he yells at, makes threats against, and harasses someone who has done nothing wrong, and with no proof to back it up, and instead just throws out random links incoherently. [[User:Dragon Child|Dragon Child]] 20:58, 25 August 2009 (MDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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:::::::::: @GD.  Dude your freakin me out?  Nobody here took their stuff.  That site must just be having problems.  Surgo would probably just base his new wiki off this one anyway.  He wouldn't model his new site of that wikia in a million years.  He would mimic this site and try to improve it, adding &amp;quot;Surgo Flavor&amp;quot; or something.  Nobody I know messed with that empty wikia.  Sorry.  --[[User:Jay Freedman|Jay Freedman]] 21:00, 25 August 2009 (MDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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:::::::::::That's right. You are not Wikia. That means you should not be throwing around wild-ass and incorrect accusations at me. [[User:Surgo|Surgo]] 21:04, 25 August 2009 (MDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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::::::::::::Seriously GD, what the heck are you on about? Given that a lot of us weren't even aware of that site's existence, how do you expect those pages to mean anything to anyone? -- [[User:Jota|Jota]] 21:04, 25 August 2009 (MDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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:::::::::::::Those links you provided don't even have any content missing, as far as I can tell. No other content was added to them besides the picture of the miniature. You're yelling at someone who did nothing over a &amp;quot;crime&amp;quot; that everyone can see doesn't even exist. Perhaps now it's time to call you stupid, and say it's justified, as some people are just stupid? [[User:Dragon Child|Dragon Child]] 21:05, 25 August 2009 (MDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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::What do you mean you have nothing to do with it? You STARTED this discussion, by falsely accusing, nay, OUTRIGHT LYING AND INSULTING SURGO! [[User:Dragon Child|Dragon Child]] 21:39, 25 August 2009 (MDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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:::I asked a question.  --[[User:Green Dragon|Green Dragon]] 21:41, 25 August 2009 (MDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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::::That's pretty funny, because I don't see a question mark in your post. [[User:Surgo|Surgo]] 21:49, 2 September 2009 (MDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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:You guys need to take this discussion (about Wikia's wiki's) onto Wikia's pages. I have nothing to do with it. --[[User:Green Dragon|Green Dragon]] 21:24, 25 August 2009 (MDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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==Factual Statements==&lt;br /&gt;
Recently in our discussions on the possibility of having templates on SGT material, you routinely stated that you believe things should state facts.  I agree.  Completely.  I believe your current user page misrepresents the amount of users who left, and should be altered to be more factually correct ''(i.e. &amp;quot;left with some&amp;quot; instead of the incorrect &amp;quot;most&amp;quot;)''. &amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;lt;small&amp;gt;&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;border: 1px solid black; -moz-border-radius:10px&amp;quot;&amp;gt;[[User:Hooper|'''&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;background-color:White; color:Black; -moz-border-radius-topleft:10px; -moz-border-radius-bottomleft:10px&amp;quot;&amp;gt;  Hooper  &amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;''']][[User talk:Hooper|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;background-color:Black; color:white; -moz-border-radius-bottomleft:10px; -moz-border-radius-topleft:10px&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;amp;nbsp;talk&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]][[Special:Contributions/Hooper|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;background-color:black; color:white&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;amp;nbsp;contribs&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]][[Special:Emailuser/Hooper|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;background-color:black; color:white; -moz-border-radius-bottomright:10px; -moz-border-radius-topright:10px&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;amp;nbsp;email&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]]&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;&amp;lt;/small&amp;gt; 14:59, 3 September 2009 (MDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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:Perhaps if you feel it is infactual, you should tell me actual percentages of users that have left so it can have the utmost accuracy. After all, looking at your current &amp;quot;active users&amp;quot; list, I believe that what I said is entirely factual. So I think you are wrong. [[User:Surgo|Surgo]] 17:24, 3 September 2009 (MDT)&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
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== Protection for Tome Classes ==&lt;br /&gt;
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I wondered if you want to protect the tome-classes against IP edit. Maybe it would be better?--[[User:Lord Dhazriel|Lord Dhazriel]] 15:21, 27 January 2009 (MST)&lt;br /&gt;
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:I'd be very appreciative, and I'm sure Surgo would be, too. It'd cut back on the amount of edit undoing we'd have to do. What ''is'' it about lately? There's been a bunch of IPs changing random classes and races all over the Wiki... --[[User:Genowhirl|Genowhirl]] 10:15, 28 January 2009 (MST)&lt;br /&gt;
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== For Your Consideration ==&lt;br /&gt;
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I've noticed the ammount of people who have been giving the things made by Frank and K bad ratings before they understood the idea behind the class, and so, have made this template to try and help you guys out:&lt;br /&gt;
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{{Frank and K material}}&lt;br /&gt;
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Hope it helps (also, I officially hand over all rights to this template to you and Genowhirl, since I have no hand in any Frank and K material and don't really know what should or shouldn't go into this template). &amp;amp;rarr; [[User:Rithaniel|&amp;lt;span style=color:Gray; -moz-border-radius-topleft:25px; -moz-border-radius-bottomleft:20px&amp;quot;&amp;gt;Rith&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]]&amp;lt;sup&amp;gt; [[User talk:Rithaniel|&amp;lt;span style=color:black; -moz-border-radius-bottomleft:20px; -moz-border-radius-topleft:20px&amp;quot;&amp;gt;(talk)&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]]&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; 21:45, 14 March 2009 (MDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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:Lol, that is awesome. Thanks dude. [[User:Surgo|Surgo]] 22:00, 14 March 2009 (MDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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::Heh, it's no problem man, just glad I could help. ''':)''' &amp;amp;rarr; [[User:Rithaniel|&amp;lt;span style=color:Gray; -moz-border-radius-topleft:25px; -moz-border-radius-bottomleft:20px&amp;quot;&amp;gt;Rith&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]]&amp;lt;sup&amp;gt; [[User talk:Rithaniel|&amp;lt;span style=color:black; -moz-border-radius-bottomleft:20px; -moz-border-radius-topleft:20px&amp;quot;&amp;gt;(talk)&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]]&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; 01:59, 15 March 2009 (MDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Comment ==&lt;br /&gt;
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Thanks for taking the time to spotlight me in the Tavern. In light of many of the recent discussions going on around the site, I'd much appreciate a more friendly personal approach.  If you don't agree with something I state, that is fine, but please refrain from attacking mine, or anyone elses, intelligence.  Thank you in advance for your cooperation. &amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;lt;small&amp;gt;&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;border: 1px solid blue; -moz-border-radius:10px&amp;quot;&amp;gt;[[User:Hooper|'''&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;background-color:White; color:FireBrick; -moz-border-radius-topleft:10px; -moz-border-radius-bottomleft:10px&amp;quot;&amp;gt;  Hooper  &amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;''']][[User talk:Hooper|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;background-color:red; color:blue; -moz-border-radius-bottomleft:10px; -moz-border-radius-topleft:10px&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;amp;nbsp;talk&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]][[Special:Contributions/Hooper|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;background-color:red; color:blue&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;amp;nbsp;contribs&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]][[Special:Emailuser/Hooper|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;background-color:red; color:blue; -moz-border-radius-bottomright:10px; -moz-border-radius-topright:10px&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;amp;nbsp;email&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]]&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;&amp;lt;/small&amp;gt; 01:18, 15 March 2009 (MDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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:What? Where was I attacking your intelligence? I remember saying you were impervious to logic, for the reason of [[Talk:Incompetent (DnD Flaw)]], which is not the same thing as attacking your intelligence. [[User:Surgo|Surgo]] 01:27, 15 March 2009 (MDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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::Being impervious to logic means one is unaffected or unable to be affected by logic.  This brings up the question of &amp;quot;if one is rude in The Tavern should it count as the same as being rude while editing?&amp;quot;  If so it would almost be as if everyone who uses the tavern would get an instant permanent ban.  Huh.  Personally I say no - when Tavern Admins come around they should just use their own judgement.  And before that time keep it like it is - The Tavern has no effect on the wiki.  --[[User:Green Dragon|Green Dragon]] 09:32, 15 March 2009 (MDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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I don't know what people really wanted for Alchemical Potions so i just made this shinanigan for the peeps. you can make it the way you think it should be. --[[User:D.M.DemonicPanda|D.M.DemonicPanda]] 21:57, 3 April 2009&lt;br /&gt;
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''Comment moved to [[Talk:Alchemist (DnD Class)]]..''&lt;br /&gt;
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== Apology ==&lt;br /&gt;
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Hey, me again. I just wanted to apologize for calling you a power gamer, in case you didn't see the apology on the [[Talk:Incompetent (DnD Flaw)]] page. I can get quite stubborn sometimes. Sorry!--[[User:Fathirian Hound|Fathirian Hound]] 09:15, 20 March 2009 (MDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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:Don't worry about it, dude. [[User:Surgo|Surgo]] 22:26, 20 March 2009 (MDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Barnstar ==&lt;br /&gt;
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{{Barnstar|Thanks for nominating the [[DnD Flaws|flaws]] with purely roleplaying benefits for deletion, and nominating the unusable [[3.5e Quests|quests]] for deletion.  Thanks for helping out with a little spring cleaning.  --[[User:Green Dragon|Green Dragon]] 04:03, 22 March 2009 (MDT)}}&lt;br /&gt;
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== Adminship ==&lt;br /&gt;
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Welcome to Adminship.  You are now part of &amp;quot;The Face&amp;quot; of D&amp;amp;D Wiki.  Honestly, as you will notice, not much has been changed now that you are an admin.  If anything, I would say more burden is placed on you.  But first, for the the new features and their uses.  You can now delete pages, protect pages, rollback edits, block users and IP's, edit every page, patrol edits, and do a couple more minor things.&lt;br /&gt;
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;What it is:&lt;br /&gt;
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*What deleting pages is, is self explanatory.&lt;br /&gt;
*What protecting pages is, is also pretty self explanatory.&lt;br /&gt;
*Rolling back edits is a method for removing spam.  It is more powerful than the conventional method of undoing edits.  Instead of showing a diff of the edit in question once clicked, it instantly rollsback all the edits by the user or IP in question on a certain page.  For example if I edited my user page and you clicked &amp;quot;rollback&amp;quot; on that edit it would rollback all the edits up to the point where someone else has edited it.  Be careful using this, it can be very helpful but also very harmful.&lt;br /&gt;
*What blocking users and IP's is, is also self explanatory.&lt;br /&gt;
*Editing every page is another self explanatory one.&lt;br /&gt;
*Patrolling edits is a method for keeping [[Special:Recentchanges|RC]] in check, it can be seen once a diff is clicked.  All it does is, once &amp;quot;Mark as Patrolled Edits&amp;quot; is clicked, it marks the edits as patrolled so the edit will no longer show up on [[Special:Recentchanges|RC]] when &amp;quot;Hide Patrolled&amp;quot; is marked.&lt;br /&gt;
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;When or how it should be used&lt;br /&gt;
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*Deleting pages is done through [[:Category:Candidates for Deletion]].&lt;br /&gt;
*Protecting pages has quite a few different times when it should be used.  Pages should be protected according to the author's wishes (with [[Template:Locked Page]] added to the top of the page in question), in case of conflict  (with [[Template:Temp Locked Page]] added to the top of the page in question), in case of [[Help:FAQ#What are OGL, OGC, SRD, and GNU FPL?|OGC]] published materials (with [[Template:OGL Top]] added to the top of the page in question  and [[Template:OGL Bottom]] added to the bottom), or finally if the page is a vital part of D&amp;amp;D Wiki's infrastructure.  If it deals with D&amp;amp;D Wiki's infrastructure it either needs to be be protected from IP edits or all non-sysop edits.  As a rule of thumb pages up to two tiers deep from the [[Main Page]] are normally locked to anyone but sysops and all the others are just protected from IP edits.  For Example [[Dungeons and Dragons]] is protected from all non-sysop edits whereas a deeper in page like [[LA 0 Races]] is only protected from IP edits.  No template has to be added to pages if thay are part of D&amp;amp;D Wiki's organization (even though some do exist like [[Template:Admin Locked Page]])&lt;br /&gt;
*Blocking a user or IP should only be used after an IP or user vandalizes a certain page.  To block someone just click &amp;quot;block&amp;quot; (found either on [[Special:Recentchanges|RC]] or the diff in question) and fill out the corresponding form.  For a typical vandalism attack I normally block the user for two weeks.&lt;br /&gt;
*Editing every page on D&amp;amp;D Wiki mostly means you can now edit the [[SRD:System Reference Document|SRD]] and the [[MSRD:Modern System Reference Document|MSRD]].  Feel free to edit them if you find inaccuracies, and please feel free to help out with [[SRD Talk:System Reference Document#SRD ToDo List]] or [[MSRD Talk:Modern System Reference Document#Tasks]].&lt;br /&gt;
*Patrolling edits should be used when you have looked over an edit and fixed everything that needs to be fixed.   (this includes answering questions, sending MoI's, etc).&lt;br /&gt;
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You have more burden on yourself now that you are an admin because users will be looking at you for editing help, knowledge of D&amp;amp;D, editing guidelines, the standards, etc etc.  It's a bit more work, but I really hope you enjoy being an admin.  --[[User:Green Dragon|Green Dragon]] 13:12, 5 April 2009 (MDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Re: Thank You ==&lt;br /&gt;
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Why you're very welcome, I think I'll enjoy it when the job's done, yes...&lt;br /&gt;
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== AdminBadge ==&lt;br /&gt;
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I'd like to label you as an admin with the &amp;lt;s&amp;gt;&amp;lt;nowiki&amp;gt;[[Template:AdminBadge]]&amp;lt;/nowiki&amp;gt;&amp;lt;/s&amp;gt; on your user page. If you have a reason you don't think you should have the badge or you don't think the badge is a good idea, please discuss it on the badge's [[Template talk:AdminBadge|discussion]]. -[[User:Valentine the Rogue|Valentine the Rogue]] 16:08, 11 April 2009 (MDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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:I'm not going to put it on my page, because I don't want people to treat me differently because I'm an admin. [[User:Surgo|Surgo]] 17:10, 15 April 2009 (MDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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==Adminship==&lt;br /&gt;
Due to my recent illness and moving I've been on very sporadically and as such was not able to comment on your RfA.  However, if I had been able to I would of thrown down a support.  You've done some great things and I especially enjoy the future of your bots. &amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;lt;small&amp;gt;&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;border: 1px solid blue; -moz-border-radius:10px&amp;quot;&amp;gt;[[User:Hooper|'''&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;background-color:White; color:FireBrick; -moz-border-radius-topleft:10px; -moz-border-radius-bottomleft:10px&amp;quot;&amp;gt;  Hooper  &amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;''']][[User talk:Hooper|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;background-color:red; color:blue; -moz-border-radius-bottomleft:10px; -moz-border-radius-topleft:10px&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;amp;nbsp;talk&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]][[Special:Contributions/Hooper|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;background-color:red; color:blue&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;amp;nbsp;contribs&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]][[Special:Emailuser/Hooper|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;background-color:red; color:blue; -moz-border-radius-bottomright:10px; -moz-border-radius-topright:10px&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;amp;nbsp;email&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]]&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;&amp;lt;/small&amp;gt; 10:29, 12 April 2009 (MDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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:Thanks! [[User:Surgo|Surgo]] 17:10, 15 April 2009 (MDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Bot ==&lt;br /&gt;
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[[User:Dmilewski/Wikibot]]&lt;br /&gt;
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From a proper programmer's point of view, the script needs work. From a workhorse point of view, the thing it damned reliable. I usually change the purpose to PRINT to check my work, then run the script as WRITE to save the changes. --[[User:Dmilewski|Dmilewski]] 04:23, 23 April 2009 (MDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Deletion ==&lt;br /&gt;
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On May 12, you deleted two of my classes (Battle Mage and Ulfsark), with the reason for deletion being &amp;quot;Not enough information to be played.  However, both classes were as complete or more complete than any of the SRD classes.[[User:Zyxw59|Zyxw59]] 15:12, 6 July 2009 (MDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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:Don't take my word for it, here they are, temporarily restored: [[Ulfsark (DnD Class)]] and [[Battle Mage (DnD Class)]]. Carry on. --[[User:Ganteka|Ganteka]] 15:27, 6 July 2009 (MDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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::Battle Mage: the mechanics of the blast are never outlined. Ulfsark: There's not enough information to actually ''use'' homeland defense (I'm not sure when it should actually be applied -- something I can't say for any of the SRD classes, which I know exactly how they work). Both classes still have the problem that they're way too weak, though. [[User:Surgo|Surgo]] 22:08, 6 July 2009 (MDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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:::Thanks for the explanation, I will add a description to them.  {{Unsigned|Zyxw59|09:55, 9 July 2009 (MDT)}}&lt;br /&gt;
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::::'''It is still not workable'''. A ranged touch attack, by itself, doesn't tell you its range, among other things. What you NEED to do is go through the pages, pretend you know NOTHING about the classes and you didn't make them, and ''see if there are enough rules written there to '''actually use them'''''. Homeland defense is '''still''' retarded, because at any given point in time a member of my clan somewhere in the world might be attacked and ''how on earth does that work''? Seriously, these are nowhere near SRD level. [[User:Surgo|Surgo]] 14:09, 9 July 2009 (MDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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:::::We have standards on D&amp;amp;D Wiki.  These do not meet them in terms of being usable or not.  As such they got deleted.  If you can fix them in time the deletion is up they will not be deleted.  If not they will be deleted.  --[[User:Green Dragon|Green Dragon]] 17:51, 9 July 2009 (MDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Barnstar the Second ==&lt;br /&gt;
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{{Barnstar|Thanks for making a bot to update all of the breadcrumbs for spells. That saves a lot of manual adjustment (and potential errors caused by manual edits). --[[User:Aarnott|Aarnott]] 22:30, 3 August 2009 (MDT)}}&lt;br /&gt;
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== Gone ==&lt;br /&gt;
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I, along with most of my friends here, have left this wiki due to apparently unresolvable conflict with the administrator to make our own wiki. If you ever need to contact me for some reason, you can email (morgon Dot kanter At gmail Dot com). [[User:Surgo|Surgo]] 08:51, 19 August 2009 (MDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Wikia ==&lt;br /&gt;
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Please do not tell me you deleted wikia's D&amp;amp;D install!  Everyone liked that site as well!  If someone gave you root access to wikia and you deleted their D&amp;amp;D site the whole internet world is going to get '''very''' fucking annoyed with you.&lt;br /&gt;
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Please no.  [http://www.google.com/search?q=wikia+Dungeons+and+Dragons&amp;amp;ie=utf-8&amp;amp;oe=utf-8&amp;amp;aq=t&amp;amp;rls=com.ubuntu:en-US:unofficial&amp;amp;client=firefox-a search criteria].  --[[User:Green Dragon|Green Dragon]] 12:39, 25 August 2009 (MDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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:I cannot find any of the content that was on wikia's dungeons and dragons website anymore.  If you deleted peoples content without any form of permission on wikia because of wrongly given root access the entire internet world will hate you.  All I could find was an archived history of wikia's dungeons and dragons information - [http://www.wikiindex.org/Dungeons_and_Dragons_Wikia].  Other then that I think you may have just shredded wikia's dungeons and dragons section and could be the '''stupidest''' person I have '''ever''' seen or heard from.&lt;br /&gt;
:'''Wikia:''' http://dnd.wikia.com/wiki/Main_Page&lt;br /&gt;
:'''Possible Archive:'''  http://www.wikiindex.org/Dungeons_and_Dragons_Wikia&lt;br /&gt;
:'''Possible Restart:'''  http://dndta.wikia.com/wiki/Dungeons_%26_Dragons_Tiny_Adventures&lt;br /&gt;
:I don't think you understand that people ''worked'' on their content their, the rules were '''different''' their, etc.  --[[User:Green Dragon|Green Dragon]] 13:00, 25 August 2009 (MDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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::I hope you backed it up before you started working their.  I hope you did not shred it.  --[[User:Green Dragon|Green Dragon]] 13:07, 25 August 2009 (MDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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::: Ummm... GD, that's not even their &amp;quot;new&amp;quot; wiki. I don't think Surgo or anyone else from this site has anything to do with that. --[[User:Ghostwheel|Ghostwheel]] 13:09, 25 August 2009 (MDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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:::: I don't get it?  What happened to the DnD wikia?  --[[User:Jay Freedman|Jay Freedman]] 13:11, 25 August 2009 (MDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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:::::Ghost, I think what he means is that all of Wikia is psuedo-linked, and Surgo had needed some additional access/tools to get the new wiki to run the way he needed it to, and may have unknowingly deleted another wikia wiki's information.  Not that I know if that is or not, I just think that is what he means. &amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;lt;small&amp;gt;&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;border: 1px solid black; -moz-border-radius:10px&amp;quot;&amp;gt;[[User:Hooper|'''&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;background-color:White; color:Black; -moz-border-radius-topleft:10px; -moz-border-radius-bottomleft:10px&amp;quot;&amp;gt;  Hooper  &amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;''']][[User talk:Hooper|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;background-color:Black; color:white; -moz-border-radius-bottomleft:10px; -moz-border-radius-topleft:10px&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;amp;nbsp;talk&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]][[Special:Contributions/Hooper|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;background-color:black; color:white&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;amp;nbsp;contribs&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]][[Special:Emailuser/Hooper|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;background-color:black; color:white; -moz-border-radius-bottomright:10px; -moz-border-radius-topright:10px&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;amp;nbsp;email&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]]&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;&amp;lt;/small&amp;gt; 13:27, 25 August 2009 (MDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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:::::: Acting as a People's Repesentitive of Law and Order (as laid down by bureaucrat [[User:Green Dragon|Green Dragon]]), I, hereby, warn you, [[User:Green Dragon|Green Dragon]], for your conduct in this section of [[User:Surgo|Surgo]]'s talk page. Let it be known that none think themselves above the rules of site, otherwise it descends into anarchy or worse; despotism! I am sure you will receive this warning with the grace and style you have so accustomed to yourself in your previous actions.&lt;br /&gt;
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:::::: Thank you for your co-operation. --[[User:TK-Squared|TK-Squared]] 13:31, 25 August 2009 (MDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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:::::::TK, good to see you!  Could you place the same warning on GD's talk page for Jota's cursing too please?  Thanks! &amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;lt;small&amp;gt;&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;border: 1px solid black; -moz-border-radius:10px&amp;quot;&amp;gt;[[User:Hooper|'''&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;background-color:White; color:Black; -moz-border-radius-topleft:10px; -moz-border-radius-bottomleft:10px&amp;quot;&amp;gt;  Hooper  &amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;''']][[User talk:Hooper|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;background-color:Black; color:white; -moz-border-radius-bottomleft:10px; -moz-border-radius-topleft:10px&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;amp;nbsp;talk&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]][[Special:Contributions/Hooper|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;background-color:black; color:white&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;amp;nbsp;contribs&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]][[Special:Emailuser/Hooper|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;background-color:black; color:white; -moz-border-radius-bottomright:10px; -moz-border-radius-topright:10px&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;amp;nbsp;email&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]]&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;&amp;lt;/small&amp;gt; 13:33, 25 August 2009 (MDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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:::::::: (Sigh) This warning should go over real well... (Patiently awaiting the public executions to come.)  Haha. Jk.  What up TK!  We love you man.  --[[User:Jay Freedman|Jay Freedman]] 13:56, 25 August 2009 (MDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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:::::::::Their are stupid people in the world...  That's not name calling &amp;amp;mdash; it's brutal honesty.  And [[User:TK-Squared|TK-Squared]] you have zero authority here; do not act like you do.  Also I am pretty positive you deleted the old wikia's D&amp;amp;D wiki.  I have no idea what wikia was thinking to let you have root access to their servers.  I am calling them dumb people as well.  You ruined a wiki in about 10 minutes and you have no regret?  Everyone liked that site as well and all you people can do is bitch at me about it?  Don't just sit around bitching to me about yur petty problems - get back the damn website.  I have had people unrestore shift-deleted things before.  If you did not shred it there is still a chance you can get it back.  Do something!  Don't just mope and gripe to me about your petty authority problems; fix your mistakes.  --[[User:Green Dragon|Green Dragon]] 16:20, 25 August 2009 (MDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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:::::::::: lol wut --[[User:TK-Squared|TK-Squared]] 16:45, 25 August 2009 (MDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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::::::::::: Green Dragon, what are you even talking about? NOBODY here had anything to do with that wiki at all! [[User:Dragon Child|Dragon Child]] 16:46, 25 August 2009 (MDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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:'''What the hell'''? Listen Green Dragon, you fucking moron. While I'd normally be honored to be so vilified by the likes of you, this is just retarded. The last time anyone did anything on that other wiki was in 2007. If you think I somehow &amp;quot;deleted&amp;quot; their wiki (as if that's even possible on wikia), that makes you even dumber than I had originally given you credit for. (And yes, I did think about adopting that one in like with the wikia policy. I decided against it, and instead started my own wiki. Which in one day surpassed their article count by about five-fold.) I have no idea how you even got this stupid idea. [[User:Surgo|Surgo]] 16:58, 25 August 2009 (MDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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::I don't think we should concern ourselves with the two wikis.  Surgo's wiki states on it's main page that it is for Same Game Test material mostly, which will draw a certain demographic.  Ours will draw a different demographic (the material on our site dedicated to SGT and op material is a small percentage, and I'm sure theres will have a small percentage of more core stuff = not enough for either &amp;quot;side&amp;quot; to worry about the other).  If people on one side or the other don't feel like they can help both, then just leave it be.  Everyone is just going to make themselves more upset as they argue. &amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;lt;small&amp;gt;&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;border: 1px solid black; -moz-border-radius:10px&amp;quot;&amp;gt;[[User:Hooper|'''&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;background-color:White; color:Black; -moz-border-radius-topleft:10px; -moz-border-radius-bottomleft:10px&amp;quot;&amp;gt;  Hooper  &amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;''']][[User talk:Hooper|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;background-color:Black; color:white; -moz-border-radius-bottomleft:10px; -moz-border-radius-topleft:10px&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;amp;nbsp;talk&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]][[Special:Contributions/Hooper|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;background-color:black; color:white&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;amp;nbsp;contribs&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]][[Special:Emailuser/Hooper|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;background-color:black; color:white; -moz-border-radius-bottomright:10px; -moz-border-radius-topright:10px&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;amp;nbsp;email&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]]&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;&amp;lt;/small&amp;gt; 18:37, 25 August 2009 (MDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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::: Good advice Hooper.  Of course, a wise sage once said &amp;quot;He who mediates between lions lives short life.&amp;quot;  So while we would like not to worry about wiki wars... (Thats a cool name. Wiki Wars! I love that! Haha! I am so stupid.) ...this will probably continue for some time.  --[[User:Jay Freedman|Jay Freedman]] 18:47, 25 August 2009 (MDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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:::: Hooper, I'm not sure why you insist on misrepresenting me. My wiki does not say that it is mostly for Same Game Test material...at all. It says it's for all material, and anything that doesn't define a balance point is assumed to be Same Game test. I don't know how it can be any more clear than that (which is what it actually says on the front page). Hooper, the only reason I am even posting here is because Green Dragon made some boneheaded accusation he pulled out of his ass. This has nothing to do with &amp;quot;wiki wars&amp;quot; or whatever (unless this is Green Dragon's weird idea of a 'war' or something). [[User:Surgo|Surgo]] 19:04, 25 August 2009 (MDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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:::::Ah, well if something is &amp;quot;assumed to be SGT&amp;quot; instead of assuming it is &amp;quot;core&amp;quot; ''(for lack of a better word)'', I would say that it is just fostering the above kind of thoughts.  People who support the SGT mind frame will be more prone to follow it is all. As I said above, both wikis will have some of each. &amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;lt;small&amp;gt;&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;border: 1px solid black; -moz-border-radius:10px&amp;quot;&amp;gt;[[User:Hooper|'''&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;background-color:White; color:Black; -moz-border-radius-topleft:10px; -moz-border-radius-bottomleft:10px&amp;quot;&amp;gt;  Hooper  &amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;''']][[User talk:Hooper|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;background-color:Black; color:white; -moz-border-radius-bottomleft:10px; -moz-border-radius-topleft:10px&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;amp;nbsp;talk&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]][[Special:Contributions/Hooper|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;background-color:black; color:white&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;amp;nbsp;contribs&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]][[Special:Emailuser/Hooper|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;background-color:black; color:white; -moz-border-radius-bottomright:10px; -moz-border-radius-topright:10px&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;amp;nbsp;email&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]]&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;&amp;lt;/small&amp;gt; 19:09, 25 August 2009 (MDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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::::::The obvious point of contention is that you say SGT and core are not the same; others would argue otherwise. I don't want to turn this discussion into that, but you say po-tay-to, I say po-tah-to. -- [[User:Jota|Jota]] 20:04, 25 August 2009 (MDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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:::::::Does anyone know where all the content on [http://dnd.wikia.com/wiki/Basics_and_Ability_Scores] went?  With the thought in mind of [http://dungeons.wikia.com/wiki/Main_Page] (permissions).  --[[User:Green Dragon|Green Dragon]] 20:44, 25 August 2009 (MDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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::::::::http://dnd.wikia.com/wiki/Special:Contributions/Maunderingcabal  [http://dnd.wikia.com/wiki/Quickling_Runner] [http://dnd.wikia.com/wiki/Guard_Drake] [http://dnd.wikia.com/wiki/Hobgoblin_Warcaster] [http://dnd.wikia.com/wiki/Corruption_Corpse] [http://dnd.wikia.com/wiki/Warforged_Battle_Champion], etc.  --[[User:Green Dragon|Green Dragon]] 20:49, 25 August 2009 (MDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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:::::::::What the hell is your point? How should any of us know where any of their stuff went? I've only looked at that wiki once in my lifetime. [[User:Surgo|Surgo]] 20:51, 25 August 2009 (MDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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::::::::::I'm not Wikia.  I do not know enough in this instance to make a correct judgement.  I am not positive why the content was removed; I am not Wikia.  One would have to look at IP's and permissions on Wikia's backend to get a better judgment.  Who knows; I am not Wikia.  --[[User:Green Dragon|Green Dragon]] 20:59, 25 August 2009 (MDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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:::::::::::I think this is a good example of GD's attitude. As he yells at, makes threats against, and harasses someone who has done nothing wrong, and with no proof to back it up, and instead just throws out random links incoherently. [[User:Dragon Child|Dragon Child]] 20:58, 25 August 2009 (MDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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:::::::::: @GD.  Dude your freakin me out?  Nobody here took their stuff.  That site must just be having problems.  Surgo would probably just base his new wiki off this one anyway.  He wouldn't model his new site of that wikia in a million years.  He would mimic this site and try to improve it, adding &amp;quot;Surgo Flavor&amp;quot; or something.  Nobody I know messed with that empty wikia.  Sorry.  --[[User:Jay Freedman|Jay Freedman]] 21:00, 25 August 2009 (MDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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:::::::::::That's right. You are not Wikia. That means you should not be throwing around wild-ass and incorrect accusations at me. [[User:Surgo|Surgo]] 21:04, 25 August 2009 (MDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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::::::::::::Seriously GD, what the heck are you on about? Given that a lot of us weren't even aware of that site's existence, how do you expect those pages to mean anything to anyone? -- [[User:Jota|Jota]] 21:04, 25 August 2009 (MDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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:::::::::::::Those links you provided don't even have any content missing, as far as I can tell. No other content was added to them besides the picture of the miniature. You're yelling at someone who did nothing over a &amp;quot;crime&amp;quot; that everyone can see doesn't even exist. Perhaps now it's time to call you stupid, and say it's justified, as some people are just stupid? [[User:Dragon Child|Dragon Child]] 21:05, 25 August 2009 (MDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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::What do you mean you have nothing to do with it? You STARTED this discussion, by falsely accusing, nay, OUTRIGHT LYING AND INSULTING SURGO! [[User:Dragon Child|Dragon Child]] 21:39, 25 August 2009 (MDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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:::I asked a question.  --[[User:Green Dragon|Green Dragon]] 21:41, 25 August 2009 (MDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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::::That's pretty funny, because I don't see a question mark in your post. [[User:Surgo|Surgo]] 21:49, 2 September 2009 (MDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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:You guys need to take this discussion (about Wikia's wiki's) onto Wikia's pages. I have nothing to do with it. --[[User:Green Dragon|Green Dragon]] 21:24, 25 August 2009 (MDT)&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
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		<id>http://www.dandwiki.com/wiki/User:Surgo/Possible_Tome_Errata</id>
		<title>User:Surgo/Possible Tome Errata</title>
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				<updated>2009-09-01T23:53:04Z</updated>
		
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&lt;div&gt;The original authors of the Tome material didn't like issuing errata. Here's a collection of issues that have been come across in the time since the release, and suggested fixes.&lt;br /&gt;
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* Fighters: change skill points to 4 + int per level (from 6 + int per level). This is less of a Fighter nerf than it is a Rogue buff -- Fighters just got too much benefit from skill feats, which were supposed to benefit rogues the most.&lt;br /&gt;
* Clarify the Blitz feat's BAB +1 ability to only work on melee attacks. This just provides too much benefit for ranged attacks, as seen in some Fighter builds.&lt;br /&gt;
* Insightful Strike feat: not necessarily &amp;quot;broken&amp;quot; yet, but the ability to increase your crit multiplier is something that should be carefully watched. Possible change: increase crit multiplier by 1, instead of doubling.&lt;br /&gt;
* It would be good for the Tome material if the descriptions of certain abilities and class features were tightened to prevent misinterpretation, including supplying a more thorough documentation on ability duration, limits to their usage, and the types of actions required in order to use them. Prime example being the later fighting styles of the [[Monk, Tome (DnD Class)|Tome version Monk]].&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
		<author><name>Surgo</name></author>	</entry>

	<entry>
		<id>http://www.dandwiki.com/wiki/Talk:Organization_of_Gamers_%26_Roleplaying_Enthusiasts_(3.5e_Other)/Membership_Handbook</id>
		<title>Talk:Organization of Gamers &amp; Roleplaying Enthusiasts (3.5e Other)/Membership Handbook</title>
		<link rel="alternate" type="text/html" href="http://www.dandwiki.com/wiki/Talk:Organization_of_Gamers_%26_Roleplaying_Enthusiasts_(3.5e_Other)/Membership_Handbook"/>
				<updated>2009-09-01T19:56:22Z</updated>
		
		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;Surgo: /* Weird Rule */&lt;/p&gt;
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&amp;quot;I will always praise in public and critique in private.&amp;quot;&lt;br /&gt;
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What? Think of how this would work if it was actually put into practice, and you should quickly see how horrible of an idea it is. You are obligated to praise the worst idea ever in public even though it's obviously bad. It's stuff like this that makes me and many other people leery of ever joining one of these organizations, even if we have common interests with the rest of the group. [[User:Surgo|Surgo]] 13:17, 1 September 2009 (MDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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:What this means is that you will properly criticize, and not publicly insult.  It is a common part of many successful organizations, and only those who have a tenancy to be unduly rude and publicly discomforting have a problem abiding by it.  You may be reading too much into it.  If an ''idea'' is in need of critique - then give it, but if possible, give it in a proper setting - don't go tell someone ''&amp;quot;hey, that guys idea sucks&amp;quot;'' without bringing it up with that individual.  It does not in any way mean you are obligated to ''&amp;quot;praise the worst idea ever.''&amp;quot; These groups of friendly players help boaster our community as a whole, and as such rules like the above are keystones for any successful organization. &amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;lt;small&amp;gt;&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;border: 1px solid black; -moz-border-radius:10px&amp;quot;&amp;gt;[[User:Hooper|'''&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;background-color:White; color:Black; -moz-border-radius-topleft:10px; -moz-border-radius-bottomleft:10px&amp;quot;&amp;gt;  Hooper  &amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;''']][[User talk:Hooper|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;background-color:Black; color:white; -moz-border-radius-bottomleft:10px; -moz-border-radius-topleft:10px&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;amp;nbsp;talk&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]][[Special:Contributions/Hooper|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;background-color:black; color:white&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;amp;nbsp;contribs&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]][[Special:Emailuser/Hooper|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;background-color:black; color:white; -moz-border-radius-bottomright:10px; -moz-border-radius-topright:10px&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;amp;nbsp;email&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]]&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;&amp;lt;/small&amp;gt; 13:30, 1 September 2009 (MDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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::It doesn't say &amp;quot;properly criticize, and not publicly insult&amp;quot;. It says &amp;quot;praise in public and critique in private&amp;quot;. That means if you say anything at all in public, you are obligated to praise. If that's not the way it's supposed to work, it should say something completely different. [[User:Surgo|Surgo]] 13:37, 1 September 2009 (MDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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:::Whenever one criticizes, they should already know to do it properly.  It is stated the way it is for many reasons, and will remain so.  Anyone adverse to it, probably wouldn't fit in well with a gaming group like the Ogres anyways. &amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;lt;small&amp;gt;&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;border: 1px solid black; -moz-border-radius:10px&amp;quot;&amp;gt;[[User:Hooper|'''&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;background-color:White; color:Black; -moz-border-radius-topleft:10px; -moz-border-radius-bottomleft:10px&amp;quot;&amp;gt;  Hooper  &amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;''']][[User talk:Hooper|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;background-color:Black; color:white; -moz-border-radius-bottomleft:10px; -moz-border-radius-topleft:10px&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;amp;nbsp;talk&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]][[Special:Contributions/Hooper|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;background-color:black; color:white&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;amp;nbsp;contribs&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]][[Special:Emailuser/Hooper|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;background-color:black; color:white; -moz-border-radius-bottomright:10px; -moz-border-radius-topright:10px&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;amp;nbsp;email&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]]&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;&amp;lt;/small&amp;gt; 13:42, 1 September 2009 (MDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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::::It's not that I'm adverse to it, it's that ''I don't understand it''. What I'm seeing is that the rules say one thing, and then you say something completely different. Shouldn't the rules and (supposedly) what it's actually supposed to be, be saying ''the same thing''? [[User:Surgo|Surgo]] 13:45, 1 September 2009 (MDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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:::::Like I said earlier, you may be reading too much into it.  The rule does not say that you ''have to'' praise or ''have to'' criticize, it just says where to do each form. So no, you don't have to praise an idea you don't like, but feel free to criticize it in the appropriate venue.  Likewise, you can praise an idea you like in public, which is always a given. &amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;lt;small&amp;gt;&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;border: 1px solid black; -moz-border-radius:10px&amp;quot;&amp;gt;[[User:Hooper|'''&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;background-color:White; color:Black; -moz-border-radius-topleft:10px; -moz-border-radius-bottomleft:10px&amp;quot;&amp;gt;  Hooper  &amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;''']][[User talk:Hooper|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;background-color:Black; color:white; -moz-border-radius-bottomleft:10px; -moz-border-radius-topleft:10px&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;amp;nbsp;talk&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]][[Special:Contributions/Hooper|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;background-color:black; color:white&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;amp;nbsp;contribs&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]][[Special:Emailuser/Hooper|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;background-color:black; color:white; -moz-border-radius-bottomright:10px; -moz-border-radius-topright:10px&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;amp;nbsp;email&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]]&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;&amp;lt;/small&amp;gt; 13:50, 1 September 2009 (MDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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::::::Okay, that makes a bit more sense, but one thing still bugs me: you can't criticize in public, then? Well, I guess if that's what everybody wants, I can hardly stop them of course, just looking for clarification here. [[User:Surgo|Surgo]] 13:56, 1 September 2009 (MDT)&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
		<author><name>Surgo</name></author>	</entry>

	<entry>
		<id>http://www.dandwiki.com/wiki/Talk:Organization_of_Gamers_%26_Roleplaying_Enthusiasts_(3.5e_Other)/Membership_Handbook</id>
		<title>Talk:Organization of Gamers &amp; Roleplaying Enthusiasts (3.5e Other)/Membership Handbook</title>
		<link rel="alternate" type="text/html" href="http://www.dandwiki.com/wiki/Talk:Organization_of_Gamers_%26_Roleplaying_Enthusiasts_(3.5e_Other)/Membership_Handbook"/>
				<updated>2009-09-01T19:45:59Z</updated>
		
		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;Surgo: &lt;/p&gt;
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&lt;div&gt;==Weird Rule==&lt;br /&gt;
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&amp;quot;I will always praise in public and critique in private.&amp;quot;&lt;br /&gt;
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What? Think of how this would work if it was actually put into practice, and you should quickly see how horrible of an idea it is. You are obligated to praise the worst idea ever in public even though it's obviously bad. It's stuff like this that makes me and many other people leery of ever joining one of these organizations, even if we have common interests with the rest of the group. [[User:Surgo|Surgo]] 13:17, 1 September 2009 (MDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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:What this means is that you will properly criticize, and not publicly insult.  It is a common part of many successful organizations, and only those who have a tenancy to be unduly rude and publicly discomforting have a problem abiding by it.  You may be reading too much into it.  If an ''idea'' is in need of critique - then give it, but if possible, give it in a proper setting - don't go tell someone ''&amp;quot;hey, that guys idea sucks&amp;quot;'' without bringing it up with that individual.  It does not in any way mean you are obligated to ''&amp;quot;praise the worst idea ever.''&amp;quot; These groups of friendly players help boaster our community as a whole, and as such rules like the above are keystones for any successful organization. &amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;lt;small&amp;gt;&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;border: 1px solid black; -moz-border-radius:10px&amp;quot;&amp;gt;[[User:Hooper|'''&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;background-color:White; color:Black; -moz-border-radius-topleft:10px; -moz-border-radius-bottomleft:10px&amp;quot;&amp;gt;  Hooper  &amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;''']][[User talk:Hooper|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;background-color:Black; color:white; -moz-border-radius-bottomleft:10px; -moz-border-radius-topleft:10px&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;amp;nbsp;talk&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]][[Special:Contributions/Hooper|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;background-color:black; color:white&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;amp;nbsp;contribs&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]][[Special:Emailuser/Hooper|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;background-color:black; color:white; -moz-border-radius-bottomright:10px; -moz-border-radius-topright:10px&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;amp;nbsp;email&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]]&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;&amp;lt;/small&amp;gt; 13:30, 1 September 2009 (MDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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::It doesn't say &amp;quot;properly criticize, and not publicly insult&amp;quot;. It says &amp;quot;praise in public and critique in private&amp;quot;. That means if you say anything at all in public, you are obligated to praise. If that's not the way it's supposed to work, it should say something completely different. [[User:Surgo|Surgo]] 13:37, 1 September 2009 (MDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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:::Whenever one criticizes, they should already know to do it properly.  It is stated the way it is for many reasons, and will remain so.  Anyone adverse to it, probably wouldn't fit in well with a gaming group like the Ogres anyways. &amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;lt;small&amp;gt;&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;border: 1px solid black; -moz-border-radius:10px&amp;quot;&amp;gt;[[User:Hooper|'''&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;background-color:White; color:Black; -moz-border-radius-topleft:10px; -moz-border-radius-bottomleft:10px&amp;quot;&amp;gt;  Hooper  &amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;''']][[User talk:Hooper|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;background-color:Black; color:white; -moz-border-radius-bottomleft:10px; -moz-border-radius-topleft:10px&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;amp;nbsp;talk&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]][[Special:Contributions/Hooper|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;background-color:black; color:white&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;amp;nbsp;contribs&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]][[Special:Emailuser/Hooper|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;background-color:black; color:white; -moz-border-radius-bottomright:10px; -moz-border-radius-topright:10px&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;amp;nbsp;email&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]]&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;&amp;lt;/small&amp;gt; 13:42, 1 September 2009 (MDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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::::It's not that I'm adverse to it, it's that ''I don't understand it''. What I'm seeing is that the rules say one thing, and then you say something completely different. Shouldn't the rules and (supposedly) what it's actually supposed to be, be saying ''the same thing''? [[User:Surgo|Surgo]] 13:45, 1 September 2009 (MDT)&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
		<author><name>Surgo</name></author>	</entry>

	<entry>
		<id>http://www.dandwiki.com/wiki/Talk:Organization_of_Gamers_%26_Roleplaying_Enthusiasts_(3.5e_Other)/Membership_Handbook</id>
		<title>Talk:Organization of Gamers &amp; Roleplaying Enthusiasts (3.5e Other)/Membership Handbook</title>
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		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;Surgo: &lt;/p&gt;
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&lt;div&gt;==Weird Rule==&lt;br /&gt;
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&amp;quot;I will always praise in public and critique in private.&amp;quot;&lt;br /&gt;
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What? Think of how this would work if it was actually put into practice, and you should quickly see how horrible of an idea it is. You are obligated to praise the worst idea ever in public even though it's obviously bad. It's stuff like this that makes me and many other people leery of ever joining one of these organizations, even if we have common interests with the rest of the group. [[User:Surgo|Surgo]] 13:17, 1 September 2009 (MDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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:What this means is that you will properly criticize, and not publicly insult.  It is a common part of many successful organizations, and only those who have a tenancy to be unduly rude and publicly discomforting have a problem abiding by it.  You may be reading too much into it.  If an ''idea'' is in need of critique - then give it, but if possible, give it in a proper setting - don't go tell someone ''&amp;quot;hey, that guys idea sucks&amp;quot;'' without bringing it up with that individual.  It does not in any way mean you are obligated to ''&amp;quot;praise the worst idea ever.''&amp;quot; These groups of friendly players help boaster our community as a whole, and as such rules like the above are keystones for any successful organization. &amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;lt;small&amp;gt;&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;border: 1px solid black; -moz-border-radius:10px&amp;quot;&amp;gt;[[User:Hooper|'''&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;background-color:White; color:Black; -moz-border-radius-topleft:10px; -moz-border-radius-bottomleft:10px&amp;quot;&amp;gt;  Hooper  &amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;''']][[User talk:Hooper|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;background-color:Black; color:white; -moz-border-radius-bottomleft:10px; -moz-border-radius-topleft:10px&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;amp;nbsp;talk&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]][[Special:Contributions/Hooper|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;background-color:black; color:white&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;amp;nbsp;contribs&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]][[Special:Emailuser/Hooper|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;background-color:black; color:white; -moz-border-radius-bottomright:10px; -moz-border-radius-topright:10px&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;amp;nbsp;email&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]]&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;&amp;lt;/small&amp;gt; 13:30, 1 September 2009 (MDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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::It doesn't say &amp;quot;properly criticize, and not publicly insult&amp;quot;. It says &amp;quot;praise in public and critique in private&amp;quot;. That means if you say anything at all in public, you are obligated to praise. If that's not the way it's supposed to work, it should say something completely different. [[User:Surgo|Surgo]] 13:37, 1 September 2009 (MDT)&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
		<author><name>Surgo</name></author>	</entry>

	<entry>
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		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;Surgo: New page: ==Weird Rule==  &amp;quot;I will always praise in public and critique in private.&amp;quot;  What? Think of how this would work if it was actually put into practice, and you should quickly see how horrible ...&lt;/p&gt;
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&lt;div&gt;==Weird Rule==&lt;br /&gt;
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&amp;quot;I will always praise in public and critique in private.&amp;quot;&lt;br /&gt;
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What? Think of how this would work if it was actually put into practice, and you should quickly see how horrible of an idea it is. You are obligated to praise the worst idea ever in public even though it's obviously bad. It's stuff like this that makes me and many other people leery of ever joining one of these organizations, even if we have common interests with the rest of the group. [[User:Surgo|Surgo]] 13:17, 1 September 2009 (MDT)&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
		<author><name>Surgo</name></author>	</entry>

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		<id>http://www.dandwiki.com/wiki/User_talk:Eiji</id>
		<title>User talk:Eiji</title>
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				<updated>2009-08-30T21:52:43Z</updated>
		
		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;Surgo: /* I Missz Youz */&lt;/p&gt;
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|notifier=Sam Kay&lt;br /&gt;
|date_time=13:00, 8 July 2009 (MDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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|page=Talk:Sex_Fiend_(DnD_Trait)&lt;br /&gt;
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|date_time=21:15, 2 June 2009 (MDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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|page=Talk:Artificer_Battery_Pack_(3.5e_Equipment)&lt;br /&gt;
|section=Eureka!&lt;br /&gt;
|notifier=Green Dragon&lt;br /&gt;
|date_time=22:15, 4 May 2009 (MDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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|page=Talk:Artificer_Battery_Pack_(3.5e_Equipment)&lt;br /&gt;
|section=Some Improvements&lt;br /&gt;
|notifier=Green Dragon&lt;br /&gt;
|date_time=02:39, 24 April 2009 (MDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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{{MoI-Row&lt;br /&gt;
|page=Discussion:Dickery_Does_Not_Exclude_Good_Points&lt;br /&gt;
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|notifier=Sam Kay&lt;br /&gt;
|date_time=04:40, 12 March 2009 (MDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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|page=Talk:Biomancer_(DnD_Class)&lt;br /&gt;
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|date_time=18:54, 5 March 2009 (MST)&lt;br /&gt;
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|page=Gate Knight (DnD Class)&lt;br /&gt;
|section=Class Features&lt;br /&gt;
|notifier=Daniel Draco&lt;br /&gt;
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==Welcome to D&amp;amp;D Wiki==&lt;br /&gt;
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Hello Eiji, and on behalf of [[User:Green Dragon|Green Dragon]], welcome to D&amp;amp;D Wiki! Thank you for your contributions. We hope you like D&amp;amp;D Wiki and decide to stay. [[User:Green Dragon|Green Dragon]] is the owner of the site (though he's unavailable right now), and if you have a question feel free to ask me in his absence, however when contacting anyone on D&amp;amp;D Wiki through talk pages please sign your name using four tildes &amp;lt;nowiki&amp;gt;(~~~~)&amp;lt;/nowiki&amp;gt;; this will automatically produce your name and the date.  Also, if you want to help D&amp;amp;D Wiki but just don't know how  [http://www.dandwiki.com/wiki/index.php?title=User_talk:Sledged&amp;amp;action=edit&amp;amp;section=new drop me a note] and I'll see what I can do.  (Alternatively, you can [http://www.dandwiki.com/wiki/index.php?title=User_talk:Green_Dragon&amp;amp;action=edit&amp;amp;section=new leave a message on Green Dragon's talk page].  I and a few others keep tabs on the discussions going on there.)  However, when leaving a note please indicate how much time you would like to spend working, how well you know the Wiki Format, and how well you know D&amp;amp;D.  I hope you enjoy editing here and being a D&amp;amp;D Wikian! If you need help ask me on my talk page, [[User:Green Dragon|Green Dragon]]'s talk page, or just right here.  Again, welcome!  —[[User:Sledged|Sledged]] ([[User talk:Sledged|talk]]) 12:41, 2 July 2007 (MDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Nomination for Adminship ==&lt;br /&gt;
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Hey!  I just [[Requests for Adminship/Eiji|nominated you for adminship]].  I hope you make it ''':)'''.  However, you really should fill out the &amp;quot;Candidates Prelude&amp;quot; information on that page and you should probably also make a user page (since so many things are linking to it right now, like the main page, etc, and it looks unprofessional to not have one ''':)''').  Again, hope you make it ''':)'''.  --[[User:Green Dragon|Green Dragon]] 16:32, 27 November 2007 (MST)&lt;br /&gt;
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:Sadly you did not make adminship...  Maybe next time ''':)'''.  --[[User:Green Dragon|Green Dragon]] 22:54, 4 December 2007 (MST)&lt;br /&gt;
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::@-@  The things that happen when I vanish for a week.  Come and gone before I even knew.... &lt;br /&gt;
::Well, I suppose it doesn't matter.  I still need to get a handle on things (and more time, what with Xmas season working at KB Toy does not let you rest).  I do have one question though, how do I make a user page? -- [[User:Eiji|Eiji]] 00:03, 5 December 2007 (MST)&lt;br /&gt;
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:::Follow the red link in your signature (or the red &amp;quot;user page&amp;quot; link at the top of this page), fill in whatever info you'd like to give about yourself, and hit &amp;quot;save page.&amp;quot;  —[[User:Sledged|Sledged]] ([[User talk:Sledged|talk]]) 02:33, 5 December 2007 (MST)&lt;br /&gt;
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::::I think we should re-nominate you Eiji, for the reason that I stated [[Requests for Adminship/Eiji|here]]. --[[User:Sam Kay|Sam Kay]] 11:28, 5 December 2007 (MST)&lt;br /&gt;
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:::::Maybe after Christmas would be a better time, seeing that Eiji works at a toy shop (right?) and I do not think it would be the best idea to re-nominate someone within the same month...  Although a re-nomination does seem like a good idea.  --[[User:Green Dragon|Green Dragon]] 14:57, 5 December 2007 (MST)&lt;br /&gt;
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::::::Yeah, I agree. --[[User:Sam Kay|Sam Kay]] 08:19, 6 December 2007 (MST)&lt;br /&gt;
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:::::::I agree too, whew.  Well, user page is up, have a look-see! -- [[User:Eiji|Eiji]] 22:41, 6 December 2007 (MST)&lt;br /&gt;
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::::::::Good luck for January! --[[User:Sir Milo Teabag|Sir Milo Teabag]] 12:03, 8 December 2007 (MST)&lt;br /&gt;
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:::::::::Also, I am sure [[User:Sledged|Sledged]] would be proud of how your user page looks ''':P'''.  --[[User:Green Dragon|Green Dragon]] 21:29, 9 December 2007 (MST)&lt;br /&gt;
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::::::::::So, you still want to go for it?  It is January now ''':P'''...  --[[User:Green Dragon|Green Dragon]] 12:35, 15 January 2008 (MST)&lt;br /&gt;
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:::::::::::Let's do it! -- [[User:Eiji|Eiji]] 13:21, 15 January 2008 (MST)&lt;br /&gt;
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::::::::::::[[Requests for Adminship/Eiji]]  --[[User:Green Dragon|Green Dragon]] 13:44, 15 January 2008 (MST)&lt;br /&gt;
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:::::::::::::And, it has ended.  --[[User:Green Dragon|Green Dragon]] 01:32, 23 January 2008 (MST)&lt;br /&gt;
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''&amp;amp;rarr;Reverted indentation to one colon''&lt;br /&gt;
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:Welcome to Adminship.  You are now, as [[User:Dmilewski|Dmilewski]] once put it, part of &amp;quot;The Face&amp;quot; of D&amp;amp;D Wiki.  Honestly, as you will notice, not much has been changed now that you are an admin.  If anything, I would say more burden is placed on you.  But first, for the the new features and there uses.  You can now delete pages, protect pages, rollback edits, block users and IP's, edit every page, patrol edits, and do a couple more minor things.&lt;br /&gt;
:;What it is:&lt;br /&gt;
:*What deleting pages is, is self explanatory.&lt;br /&gt;
:*What protecting pages is, is also pretty self explanatory.&lt;br /&gt;
:*Rolling back edits is a method for removing spam.  It is more powerful than the conventional method of undoing edits.  Instead of showing a diff of the edit in question once clicked, it instantly rollsback all the edits by the user or IP in question on a certain page.  For example if I edited my user page and you clicked &amp;quot;rollback&amp;quot; on that edit it would rollback all the edits up to the point where someone else has edited it.  Be careful using this, it can be very helpful but also very harmful.&lt;br /&gt;
:*What blocking users and IP's is, is also self explanatory.&lt;br /&gt;
:*Editing every page is another self explanatory one.&lt;br /&gt;
:*Patrolling edits is a method for keeping [[Special:Recentchanges|RC]] in check, it can be seen once a diff is clicked.  All it does is, once &amp;quot;Mark as Patrolled Edits&amp;quot; is clicked, it marks the edits as patrolled so the edit will no longer show up on [[Special:Recentchanges|RC]] when &amp;quot;Hide Patrolled&amp;quot; is marked.&lt;br /&gt;
:;When or how it should be used&lt;br /&gt;
:*Deleting pages is normally done through [[:Category:Candidates for Deletion]].  Anything with a good reason to be deleted on that page should be deleted.  The other time pages should be deleted is when someone makes a certain page and after a few edits they either blank the page or replace it with something like &amp;quot;Please delete this&amp;quot;.  They don't want to work on it, and unless it is really well made and fleshed out, just delete it.&lt;br /&gt;
:*Protecting pages has quite a few different times when it should be used.  Pages should be protected according to the author's wishes (with [[Template:Locked Page]] added to the top of the page in question), in case of conflict  (with [[Template:Temp Locked Page]] added to the top of the page in question), in case of [[Help:FAQ#What are OGL, OGC, SRD, and GNU FPL?|OGC]] published materials (with [[Template:OGL Top]] added to the top of the page in question  and [[Template:OGL Bottom]] added to the bottom), or finally if the page is a vital part of D&amp;amp;D Wiki's organization.  If it deals with D&amp;amp;D Wiki's organization it either needs to be be protected from IP edits or all non-sysop edits.  As a rule of thumb pages up to two tiers deep from the [[Main Page]] are normally locked to anyone but sysops and all the others are just protected from IP edits.  For Example [[Dungeons and Dragons]] is protected from all non-sysop edits whereas a deeper in page like [[LA 0 Races]] is only protected from IP edits.  No template has to be added to pages if thay are part of D&amp;amp;D Wiki's organization (even though some do exist like [[Template:Admin Locked Page]])&lt;br /&gt;
:*Blocking a user or IP should only be used after an IP or user vandalizes a certain page.  To block someone just click &amp;quot;block&amp;quot; (found either on [[Special:Recentchanges|RC]] or the diff in question) and fill out the corresponding form.  For a typical vandalism attack I normally block the user for two weeks.  If I'm in a bad mood from vandalism or a certain discussion, then I sometimes block them for up to a month.  No standards have been set for block lengths, so it is currently really up to you when you block the user or IP.&lt;br /&gt;
:*Editing every page on D&amp;amp;D Wiki mostly means you can now edit the [[SRD:System Reference Document|SRD]] and the [[MSRD:Modern System Reference Document|MSRD]].  Feel free to edit them if you find inaccuracies.  Also, if you want to, for lack of a better word, major in the [[SRD:System Reference Document|SRD]] (as [[User:Dmilewski|Dmilewski]] has done) or the [[MSRD:Modern System Reference Document|MSRD]] (as [[User:EldritchNumen|EldrithNumen]] has done) take a look at [[SRD Talk:System Reference Document#SRD ToDo List]] or [[MSRD Talk:Modern System Reference Document#Tasks]] to see what needs to be done within the [[SRD:System Reference Document|SRD]] or [[MSRD:Modern System Reference Document|MSRD]].  There is never enough help to get it all done, so I am sure your help would be appreciated.&lt;br /&gt;
:*Patrolling edits should, in a nutshell, be used when you have looked over an edit and fixed everything that needs to be fixed (this includes answering questions, sending MoI's, etc).  If you decide to, for a lack of better words, major in [[Special:Recentchanges|RC]] (as I have ''':)''') then marking edits as patrolled will become commonplace and extremely helpful.  Below is how to &amp;quot;major&amp;quot; in recent changes, which would be a great help to D&amp;amp;D Wiki and I.  First off load recent changes and press &amp;quot;Hide patrolled edits&amp;quot;.  Next click any diff and look at the change.  Only if you are 100% sure that the edit is okay (taking formatting standards, page-linking (using the &amp;quot;what links here?&amp;quot; function), answering questions, sending MoI's, and line spacing between comments and/or the &amp;quot;Back to&amp;quot; footer into consideration) then mark the edit as patrolled.  If the edit is not okay then all you have to do is fix the problem then mark the edit as patrolled.  It's simple, but looking over every edit on D&amp;amp;D Wiki really keeps it looking and running well.  In my opinion, it is the most vital part of D&amp;amp;D Wiki.  Even marking only 20 edits as patrolled every day would be extremely helpful with this never-ending task.&lt;br /&gt;
:I know this is really long-winded, so I'll keep the rest short.  You have more burden on youself now that you are an admin because users will be looking at you for editing help, knowledge of the standards, etc etc.  It's a bit more work, but I really hope you enjoy being an admin and I hope you decide to stay around on D&amp;amp;D Wiki for a while more to come.  Welcome to Adminship, again, as [[User:Dmilewski|Dmilewski]] once put it, you're now part of &amp;quot;The Face&amp;quot; of D&amp;amp;D Wiki.  --[[User:Green Dragon|Green Dragon]] 01:32, 23 January 2008 (MST)&lt;br /&gt;
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::Whew, much to work on.  Thank you, I'll hold the title with honor and oven mitts (honorable oven mitts). -- [[User:Eiji|Eiji]] 16:45, 23 January 2008 (MST)&lt;br /&gt;
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:::''':)'''.  --[[User:Green Dragon|Green Dragon]] 22:47, 23 January 2008 (MST)&lt;br /&gt;
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== User Page ==&lt;br /&gt;
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Nice user page.  I'm flattered.  BTW, I went digging through the &amp;lt;span class=&amp;quot;plainlinks&amp;quot;&amp;gt;[http://www.dandwiki.com/w/index.php?title=Special:Log&amp;amp;user=Eiji logs]&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt; and found the date you created your username on the wiki, and inserted the date in your page. —[[User:Sledged|Sledged]] ([[User talk:Sledged|talk]]) 16:08, 7 December 2007 (MST)&lt;br /&gt;
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:Domo arigato Mr. Sledgedboto. -- [[User:Eiji|Eiji]] 22:20, 7 December 2007 (MST)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Happy Bunny Picture ==&lt;br /&gt;
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:''Discussion moved to [[Talk:Happy Bunny (DnD Creature)#Picture]]&amp;lt;small&amp;gt;The discussion was related to the happy bunny, not Eiji&amp;amp;nbsp;--[[User:Green Dragon|Green Dragon]] 13:24, 24 December 2007 (MST)&amp;lt;/small&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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== DBZ Conversion ==&lt;br /&gt;
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good luck with the state alchemist into D&amp;amp;D format, also very nice conversion of DBZ moves into D&amp;amp;D attacks.  {{Unsigned|Archangel|18:36, 10 February 2008 (MST)}}&lt;br /&gt;
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:Why thank you.  Eventually I'll work up that Superhuman/Super Saiyan prestige class at well.  I'm thinking epic. -- [[User:Eiji|Eiji]] 20:06, 10 February 2008 (MST)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Moving ==&lt;br /&gt;
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Trouble in the lands of reality, I have been and may still be only half here while I handle some terrible RL troubles.  I shall return in full, I promise.  -- [[User:Eiji|Eiji]] 14:55, 25 March 2008 (MDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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:Sounds good ''':)'''.  Thanks for keeping us updated.  --[[User:Green Dragon|Green Dragon]] 01:30, 26 March 2008 (MDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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::Alright, I'm back, mostly.  Time to ease back into posting flow. -- [[User:Eiji|Eiji]] 22:38, 10 April 2008 (MDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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==Thanks==&lt;br /&gt;
I never thanked you, You kinda helped get into the flow of this site, so i wanted to thank you for all your help.[[User:Summerscythe|Summerscythe]] 15:17, 29 May 2008 (MDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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:Awww, it's no problem.  Why, thank you.  ''':D'''  I hear you're trying to get the tavern hopping again (I'm in now actually, it's populated!) so I hope to see you in there soon. -- [[User:Eiji|Eiji]] 21:31, 29 May 2008 (MDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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== D&amp;amp;D Game ==&lt;br /&gt;
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Sorry, I alway played 2nd edition and im a little confused about how to do my char. Im not sure also if my characters concept suit you. Anyway if you could help me a little i would appreciate. With all grace to the mighty Eiji--[[User:Lord Dhazriel|Lord Dhazriel]] 23:52, 7 June 2008 (MDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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:Ah ha ha.  I'm not that great, but thank you.  Now, I will claim complete ignorance on 2e (I started in 3.5e) but I'll try to help where I can.  Unfortunately, where do I start?  The only major changes I can recall off hand is THAC0 turning into AC, weapon size changes, and spell changes.  There's more I'm sure of course, where do I start?&lt;br /&gt;
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:Anyway, hit me with your concept.  ''':D''' -- [[User:Eiji|Eiji]] 16:35, 8 June 2008 (MDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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:: You can find them on my [[User:Lord Dhazriel#Characters Concepts|user page]], by the way when the game begin.--[[User:Lord Dhazriel|Lord Dhazriel]] 17:23, 8 June 2008 (MDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Plushies!!! ==&lt;br /&gt;
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Hey dude can I post some racial feats I made for plushies?--[[User:Risek|Risek]] 12:54, 11 June 2008 (MDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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:Go for it.  ''':)''' -- [[User:Eiji|Eiji]] 16:33, 11 June 2008 (MDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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::Ok--[[User:Risek|Risek]] 21:51, 11 June 2008 (MDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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**[[Icky Icky (DnD Feat)]]&lt;br /&gt;
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== EIJI!!!!!!!!!!!! ==&lt;br /&gt;
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Go to the tavern {{Unsigned|Risek}}&lt;br /&gt;
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:And again! --[[User:Daniel Draco|Daniel Draco]] 20:38, 24 November 2008 (MST)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Live Forever ==&lt;br /&gt;
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&amp;quot;Must convert self into D&amp;amp;D form, and live forever!&amp;quot;&lt;br /&gt;
lol watch out for inevitables XD --[[User:Jack Bread|Jack Bread]] 23:45, 20 July 2008 (MDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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== I had a question ==&lt;br /&gt;
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The Spell you made, Ell's Handy Homunculus, is awesome, but me and my roomie were wondering if a Plushie spellcaster (btw Plushies are my new favorite race) can make one and how, as they possess no blood of their own. Just a question.- Tripp Thorne&lt;br /&gt;
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:Thank you kindly.  You most certainly can use it.  Plushie blood is stuffing, so you can use that to supplement for the blood component.&lt;br /&gt;
:(That's crazy!  I have blood!  It's right inside this sack of meat here!)&lt;br /&gt;
:Eiji Plushie, what are you doing, I'm not a sack of mEAATAAAGAGHJHFJOHHWFJHKJAWHjk3rjafsf&lt;br /&gt;
:...-- [[User:Eiji|Eiji]] 15:17, 20 August 2008 (MDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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::Another quick question: Is it cool if I post some Plushy Feats I've been working on? - Tripp Thorne&lt;br /&gt;
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:::Go for it! -- [[User:Eiji|Eiji]] 09:27, 22 August 2008 (MDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Question: Bladed Fan ==&lt;br /&gt;
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My question concerns this: ''&amp;quot;Larger or smaller fans create larger or smaller effects. It is the maximum amount of damage your fan is capable of down one '''size category'''. (A Large fan, dealing 1d6 damage, creates a 5 mph wind every +1, and a Small fan, dealing 1d3, does 2 mph).&amp;quot;''&lt;br /&gt;
Is that simply supposed to be the maximum damage of the weapon -1? I ask because &amp;quot;5&amp;quot; isn't a maximum damage of any weapon at any size category. I also ask because gargantuan and colossal fans get out of hand pretty quickly (2d6 gargantuan would produce 11mph per point of strength bonus, producing tornado winds with only a strength modifier of +16. And a colossal version would be even easier to produce tornado winds with (strength modifier +11; keeping even gargantuan and colossal creatures checked).&lt;br /&gt;
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And, lastly, does the full round action provoke attacks of opportunity? --Nox_Noctis&lt;br /&gt;
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:Good catch there, looks like I mixed up some of the old text with the new text when I had it based on a different system, and ended up making it even more confusing.  It happens, and now its fixed, making it difficult to use, and provoking AoOs to prevent abuses from very strong PCs with huge Str scores and huger fans.  I've made the alterations and clarifications needed.  -- [[User:Eiji|Eiji]] 00:15, 26 August 2008 (MDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Question: Kopiko Draw Spell-like Ability ==&lt;br /&gt;
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How is the Will (''save''; word left out in the race entry) DC determined? Which ability modifier does it use? --Nox_Noctis&lt;br /&gt;
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:Default is always 10 + 1/2 HD + [[Cha]], btu I'll go clarify that now. -- [[User:Eiji|Eiji]] 13:55, 26 August 2008 (MDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Question about the Domain Time Warp ==&lt;br /&gt;
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Hello, my name is Santiago Mendez, my user name is Sarrow. I was wondering if I could use your cleric domain Time Warp for a Deity that I am making? -[[User:Sarrow|Sarrow]] 15:35, 11 September 2008 (MDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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:By all means.  ''':D'''  Everything on the Wiki is free to use.  I'm flattered you like my work, by all means.  -- [[User:Eiji|Eiji]] 07:38, 14 September 2008 (MDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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::Yeah, the deity is Aetas, the Father of Time. -[[User:Sarrow|Sarrow]] 14:14, 14 September 2008 (MDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Nezumi ==&lt;br /&gt;
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Thanks for the info; I wasn't sure there was a nezumi so I decided to make one.--[[User:Archangel|Arael]] 17:21, 19 September 2008 (MDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Barnstar ==&lt;br /&gt;
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{{Anti-Vandal Barnstar|This one is for reverting the childish edits to the Chuck Norris page so quickly.  The page always seems to attract vandals, and Eiji was quick to get it reverted. --[[User:Aarnott|Aarnott]] 11:24, 22 July 2008 (MDT) }}&lt;br /&gt;
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== AHHHHHHH!!!! ==&lt;br /&gt;
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AHHHH! AHHHHH!!!! What am I doing?? I don't know! You wrote on my page and I wanted to write back! Eiji! I want to draw Lord Eiji for his page on the wiki at some point, if you don't mind. I realize I've committed to drawing a whole pile of things already, but I want to add that one to the list because I saw he had not picture yet and I thought it would be fun to draw. AHHHH!!!! --[[User:Lumi|Lumi]] 20:28, 25 October 2008 (MDT)Lumi&lt;br /&gt;
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:AAAAHHHH!!!!!!  AAAAAAAAHHHHHHH!!!!  OMG AAAAAHHHHH!!!!  Lord Eiji, holy crap yes, AAAHHHHH!!!!  I shall PM you pictures of his plush continence, just add wings and ears and tail, and then DELICIOUSNESS!  Go on, I dare you to SHOW ME YOUR MOVES!  YES!&lt;br /&gt;
:LUMI PAWNCH! -- [[User:Eiji|Eiji]] 21:04, 25 October 2008 (MDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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::AHHH!!!!  You dared me and I did it!  Mostly!  But you are asleep!!!!!!  NOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!  &lt;br /&gt;
::Now I have to wait until tomorrow to find out what you think! --[[User:Lumi|Lumi]] 02:27, 27 October 2008 (MDT)Lumi&lt;br /&gt;
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:::AAAAAHHHHHHH!!!!!!  King Eiji is preparing a SOLAR PLUSHIE PAWWWWWNCH!  You have won INTERNETS and LONGCATS!  TOP SCORE!!!  -- [[User:Eiji|Eiji]] 09:44, 27 October 2008 (MDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Spellborg Feat==&lt;br /&gt;
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Hey I made this in a moment of creativity. [[Improved Spellborg (DnD Feat)|Improved Spellborg]] I hope you don't mind. Tell me what you think of it. --[[User:Lord Dhazriel|Lord Dhazriel]] 13:51, 30 October 2008 (MDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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:Hmmm, interesting.  I'll look at the balance later, but the concept of expanding template powers with feats is novel. -- [[User:Eiji|Eiji]] 20:22, 30 October 2008 (MDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Sky Eye and the Clockwork subtype ==&lt;br /&gt;
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:I forgot to link it, didn't I?  I do have the clockwork subtype page around here somewhere.  When I return, in a rush.&lt;br /&gt;
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:The short of it is that Locomotion and Observation are the subjects it is allowed to act &amp;quot;intelligent&amp;quot; on, using it's Cha as Int for the purposes of movement and watching things, so it won't easily be tricked by a wall in the way or by someone hiding, and it'll remember.  However, for all other subjects, say, combat, it's generic construct programming.  &amp;quot;I hit it again!&amp;quot; -- [[User:Eiji|Eiji]] 15:52, 17 November 2008 (MST)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Nomination ==&lt;br /&gt;
Hello, I've recently opened up a Request for Adminship for myself at [[Requests for Adminship/Hooper]], and as an admin yourself, would greatly appreciate your input, suggestions, thoughts, or general comments.  Thanks. &amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;lt;small&amp;gt;&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;border: 1px solid blue; -moz-border-radius:10px&amp;quot;&amp;gt;[[User:Hooper|'''&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;background-color:White; color:FireBrick; -moz-border-radius-topleft:10px; -moz-border-radius-bottomleft:10px&amp;quot;&amp;gt;  Hooper  &amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;''']][[User talk:Hooper|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;background-color:red; color:blue; -moz-border-radius-bottomleft:10px; -moz-border-radius-topleft:10px&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;amp;nbsp;talk&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]][[Special:Contributions/Hooper|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;background-color:red; color:blue&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;amp;nbsp;contribs&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]][[Special:Emailuser/Hooper|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;background-color:red; color:blue; -moz-border-radius-bottomright:10px; -moz-border-radius-topright:10px&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;amp;nbsp;email&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]]&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;&amp;lt;/small&amp;gt; 19:21, 16 December 2008 (MST)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Plushie 4e? ==&lt;br /&gt;
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Hey Eiji, I was wondering if you were planning on making plushies 4e. there would need to be some serious reworking of it but i love the idea of them. I would really like just at least the race, and the Go boom as an encounter power. [[User:Master K|Master K]] 16:51, 8 April 2009 (MDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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:As is, I am not a 4e player.  However, if someone with the know how wishes to, I give you permission to translate them into 4e mechanics.  Hee hee hee.  -- [[User:Eiji|Eiji]] 19:54, 8 April 2009 (MDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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::I am not too good at it and i will give it a try, is this an invatation to anyone or just me? [[User:Master K|Master K]] 19:58, 8 April 2009 (MDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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:::Anyone.  Know any 4e gurus?  -- [[User:Eiji|Eiji]] 21:37, 8 April 2009 (MDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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:::: [[User:Sepsis|Sepsis]] or [[User:Sam Kay|Sam Kay]], both made 4e featured article. Maybe they want to help. --[[User:Lord Dhazriel|Lord Dhazriel]] 22:18, 8 April 2009 (MDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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:::::Just so you know, [[User:Sam Kay|Sam Kay]] finished the conversion. Here it is.[[Eijilund_Plushies_(4e_Race)|Eijilund Plushies(4e Race)]][[User:Master K|Master K]] 16:16, 7 July 2009 (MDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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== AdminBadge ==&lt;br /&gt;
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I'd like to label you as an admin with the &amp;lt;s&amp;gt;&amp;lt;nowiki&amp;gt;[[Template:AdminBadge]]&amp;lt;/nowiki&amp;gt;&amp;lt;/s&amp;gt; on your user page. If you have a reason you don't think you should have the badge or you don't think the badge is a good idea, please discuss it on the badge's [[Template talk:AdminBadge|discussion]]. -[[User:Valentine the Rogue|Valentine the Rogue]] 16:06, 11 April 2009 (MDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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:Coo' with me bro. -- [[User:Eiji|Eiji]] 20:54, 11 April 2009 (MDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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== I Missz Youz ==&lt;br /&gt;
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Eiji... I missz youz...  --[[User:Jay Freedman|Jay Freedman]] 22:59, 28 August 2009 (MDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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:I has a fan.  :)  Well no loss, I intend to have great comedy with all my derelict pages now. -- [[User:Eiji|Eiji]] 23:07, 28 August 2009 (MDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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::Good!  I was hoping you wouldn't just up and leave.  This place needs a person like you hanging around.  Much Luvz and Kizz'z.  --[[User:Jay Freedman|Jay Freedman]] 23:12, 28 August 2009 (MDT)(I am totally just kidding about the Luvz and Kizz'z.  Ok...)&lt;br /&gt;
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:::But how will I be able to fulfill my secret fantasies about you without the luvz and kizz'z?  :O&lt;br /&gt;
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:::Wait, those aren't the ancient eldritch words for death and destruction?  Oops.  Anyway, yeah, I'm leaving links everywhere where you can find my actual stuff now. -- [[User:Eiji|Eiji]] 23:14, 28 August 2009 (MDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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:::::Look at the changes Eiji's made. Everything is still functional with an added bit of tongue-in-cheek humor. -- [[User:Jota|Jota]] 10:31, 29 August 2009 (MDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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::::::Heh, I always found the concept of self-vandalizing to be nonsensical.  It's like... self-theft.  You really CAN'T do it.  But no, this is insurance.  I do not want a repeat of Sulacu, where they decide simply to steal your name off your work.  All this stuff will be mine.  All this stuff will be workable.  However, as in reflection to the feeling of this site, I will not be terribly serious.  If you're looking for classes appropriate for Serious Business d20 Wikia is there for that.  This is now Lolcat d20.  Expect lolcats and lol wut pears and running bears having a seat over there. -- [[User:Eiji|Eiji]] 20:19, 29 August 2009 (MDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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::::::::Why so serious?  :D  *Jokergrin*  If you have a problem with humor, that's what April Fools is there for.  You can put it on everything yourself if you want, I don't feel the need to bother.  Or, if you're telling me that joke pages are bad, may I suggest asking Green Dragon to change policy and remove the April Fools category.&lt;br /&gt;
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::::::::Just don't get banned while asking.  ;) -- [[User:Eiji|Eiji]] 21:41, 29 August 2009 (MDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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:::::::::Hooper, take a chill pill.  Its his original Shizz'nits.  I kinda like the changes too. This is not a negative thing.  Its a Luvz and Kizz'z thang'.  --[[User:Jay Freedman|Jay Freedman]] 21:56, 29 August 2009 (MDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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::::::::::When someone says ''&amp;quot;Serious Business d20 Wikia is there for that.  This is now Lolcat d20.&amp;quot;'' it is completely clear that they are belittling this wiki's place, and establishing a clear intention to make less of it - even if only through their own articles.  This is not acceptable on any level, and it is a very negative thing. &amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;lt;small&amp;gt;&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;border: 1px solid black; -moz-border-radius:10px&amp;quot;&amp;gt;[[User:Hooper|'''&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;background-color:White; color:Black; -moz-border-radius-topleft:10px; -moz-border-radius-bottomleft:10px&amp;quot;&amp;gt;  Hooper  &amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;''']][[User talk:Hooper|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;background-color:Black; color:white; -moz-border-radius-bottomleft:10px; -moz-border-radius-topleft:10px&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;amp;nbsp;talk&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]][[Special:Contributions/Hooper|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;background-color:black; color:white&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;amp;nbsp;contribs&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]][[Special:Emailuser/Hooper|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;background-color:black; color:white; -moz-border-radius-bottomright:10px; -moz-border-radius-topright:10px&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;amp;nbsp;email&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]]&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;&amp;lt;/small&amp;gt; 22:15, 29 August 2009 (MDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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:::::::::::You aren't familiar with Eiji's madness aren't you? --[[User:Lord Dhazriel|Dhazriel]] 22:21, 29 August 2009 (MDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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::::::::::::Actually, I am.  Which is why I said above that I hoped his statements wouldn't lead to vandalism, whether he is conscious of it or not.  His &amp;quot;madness&amp;quot; as you put it should not be allowed to deteriorate this wiki, even if he is a nice guy. &amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;lt;small&amp;gt;&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;border: 1px solid black; -moz-border-radius:10px&amp;quot;&amp;gt;[[User:Hooper|'''&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;background-color:White; color:Black; -moz-border-radius-topleft:10px; -moz-border-radius-bottomleft:10px&amp;quot;&amp;gt;  Hooper  &amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;''']][[User talk:Hooper|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;background-color:Black; color:white; -moz-border-radius-bottomleft:10px; -moz-border-radius-topleft:10px&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;amp;nbsp;talk&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]][[Special:Contributions/Hooper|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;background-color:black; color:white&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;amp;nbsp;contribs&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]][[Special:Emailuser/Hooper|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;background-color:black; color:white; -moz-border-radius-bottomright:10px; -moz-border-radius-topright:10px&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;amp;nbsp;email&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]]&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;&amp;lt;/small&amp;gt; 22:24, 29 August 2009 (MDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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:I made Sheep the Head and Lord Eiji the god of gumdrops from the heavens.  That was before the Wikipocalypse.  Tell me, have I belittled the Wiki?  What of the Farmer and Cheerleader (which brings to question how to I alternative those... maybe I'll make them DEAD SERIOUS BUSINESS or something).  Those belittling too?&lt;br /&gt;
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::I ask you this because it's important.  Technically, I have no use for my work being here anymore.  I'd like to have it deleted.  BUT I CAN'T, due to a very silly ruling.  Rather than fight the power, I'll play along and do what I can do.  One thing I can do it see what happens when I want to run my sillier games but need solid mechanics behind it.  It's called reflavoring.&lt;br /&gt;
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:::Like I said, take time out of your life to April Fools it all if it offends you so.  I don't mind, really.  Anyway, you'll still have quality posters here like Jason Bagby if you need serious business.&lt;br /&gt;
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::::... ok, that last part WAS a joke.  XD  Laugh it off.  -- [[User:Eiji|Eiji]] 22:43, 29 August 2009 (MDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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:::::Wow Hooper, I wish you had this sort of zeal back when our copyright was being violated! [[User:Surgo|Surgo]] 08:48, 30 August 2009 (MDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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::::::After closer inspection of the GNU FDL, and reading numerous legal analysis of it's relationship to wikis, I learned that the copyright wasn't being violated in any way, actually. But that is another story for another time - and one that actually surprised me. &amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;lt;small&amp;gt;&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;border: 1px solid black; -moz-border-radius:10px&amp;quot;&amp;gt;[[User:Hooper|'''&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;background-color:White; color:Black; -moz-border-radius-topleft:10px; -moz-border-radius-bottomleft:10px&amp;quot;&amp;gt;  Hooper  &amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;''']][[User talk:Hooper|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;background-color:Black; color:white; -moz-border-radius-bottomleft:10px; -moz-border-radius-topleft:10px&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;amp;nbsp;talk&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]][[Special:Contributions/Hooper|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;background-color:black; color:white&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;amp;nbsp;contribs&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]][[Special:Emailuser/Hooper|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;background-color:black; color:white; -moz-border-radius-bottomright:10px; -moz-border-radius-topright:10px&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;amp;nbsp;email&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]]&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;&amp;lt;/small&amp;gt; 08:53, 30 August 2009 (MDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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:::::::Actually, it was being violated (just because Wikipedia does it doesn't mean it's legal). Stripping off the names of the authors from the title page is explicitly not allowed. [[User:Surgo|Surgo]] 12:38, 30 August 2009 (MDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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::::::::As long as a history exists, then that requirement of having the author's information is already met.  I don't even agree with that fully, but it is just how it is, whether we like it or not.  &amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;lt;small&amp;gt;&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;border: 1px solid black; -moz-border-radius:10px&amp;quot;&amp;gt;[[User:Hooper|'''&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;background-color:White; color:Black; -moz-border-radius-topleft:10px; -moz-border-radius-bottomleft:10px&amp;quot;&amp;gt;  Hooper  &amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;''']][[User talk:Hooper|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;background-color:Black; color:white; -moz-border-radius-bottomleft:10px; -moz-border-radius-topleft:10px&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;amp;nbsp;talk&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]][[Special:Contributions/Hooper|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;background-color:black; color:white&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;amp;nbsp;contribs&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]][[Special:Emailuser/Hooper|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;background-color:black; color:white; -moz-border-radius-bottomright:10px; -moz-border-radius-topright:10px&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;amp;nbsp;email&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]]&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;&amp;lt;/small&amp;gt; 12:46, 30 August 2009 (MDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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:::::::::Except...it's not just a requirement of &amp;quot;having the author's information&amp;quot;. The requirement is you have the author's information '''on the title page'''. Explicitly. On the title page. Not the history page (which is a separate, distinct entity under the GFDL). [[User:Surgo|Surgo]] 12:49, 30 August 2009 (MDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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::::::::::I'm not a legal expert in this particular field, however, when it came up the other day with TK I looked into it.  Lawyer after lawyer has stated that legally speaking, the history page qualify because it is technically still the title page.  Go look it up.  Its crazy. &amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;lt;small&amp;gt;&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;border: 1px solid black; -moz-border-radius:10px&amp;quot;&amp;gt;[[User:Hooper|'''&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;background-color:White; color:Black; -moz-border-radius-topleft:10px; -moz-border-radius-bottomleft:10px&amp;quot;&amp;gt;  Hooper  &amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;''']][[User talk:Hooper|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;background-color:Black; color:white; -moz-border-radius-bottomleft:10px; -moz-border-radius-topleft:10px&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;amp;nbsp;talk&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]][[Special:Contributions/Hooper|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;background-color:black; color:white&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;amp;nbsp;contribs&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]][[Special:Emailuser/Hooper|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;background-color:black; color:white; -moz-border-radius-bottomright:10px; -moz-border-radius-topright:10px&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;amp;nbsp;email&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]]&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;&amp;lt;/small&amp;gt; 12:54, 30 August 2009 (MDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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:::::::::::Lawyer after lawyer? I'm quite interested in seeing that. Where are these lawyers who have claimed this? If that's the case (actual J.D.s saying this), I'll stop my complaints. [[User:Surgo|Surgo]] 12:57, 30 August 2009 (MDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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::::::::::::When I started looking it up after TK brought it up, I first read the GNU site, then the GNU pages on wikipedia and their talk pages, and it just kind of spearheads you into a spiral of legal talk after legal talk with links to accompany it.  When you have some time look at it, some of it is insane. &amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;lt;small&amp;gt;&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;border: 1px solid black; -moz-border-radius:10px&amp;quot;&amp;gt;[[User:Hooper|'''&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;background-color:White; color:Black; -moz-border-radius-topleft:10px; -moz-border-radius-bottomleft:10px&amp;quot;&amp;gt;  Hooper  &amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;''']][[User talk:Hooper|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;background-color:Black; color:white; -moz-border-radius-bottomleft:10px; -moz-border-radius-topleft:10px&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;amp;nbsp;talk&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]][[Special:Contributions/Hooper|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;background-color:black; color:white&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;amp;nbsp;contribs&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]][[Special:Emailuser/Hooper|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;background-color:black; color:white; -moz-border-radius-bottomright:10px; -moz-border-radius-topright:10px&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;amp;nbsp;email&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]]&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;&amp;lt;/small&amp;gt; 13:22, 30 August 2009 (MDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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:::::::::::::Yeah, and...do any of them actually hold JDs? [[User:Surgo|Surgo]] 13:32, 30 August 2009 (MDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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:In fact, the only discussion I could find (''on wikipedia'', none the less) agrees with my interpretation of &amp;quot;title page&amp;quot;. [[User:Surgo|Surgo]] 13:40, 30 August 2009 (MDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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::One:  Please do not discuss Wikia here.  D&amp;amp;D Wiki is about D&amp;amp;D Wiki not D&amp;amp;D Wikia.  Second no articles here are published.  I have no idea what license you are reading; [[User:Surgo|Surgo]].  --[[User:Green Dragon|Green Dragon]] 15:46, 30 August 2009 (MDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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:::I did not discuss Wikia, and I am reading the '''GNU Free Documentation License'''. When something is licensed under this, it is said to be &amp;quot;published&amp;quot; or &amp;quot;released&amp;quot; under this license. [[User:Surgo|Surgo]] 15:52, 30 August 2009 (MDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Saiyans ==&lt;br /&gt;
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Hey Eiji, My name is James and I found D&amp;amp;D Wiki, and your page by yahoo search while looking for a D&amp;amp;D Saiyan Race. Ive been working on my own version for some time, and after reading what you came up with, Id very much like to be able to have a conversation at length with you over messenger and show you what Ive got so far and see what you think about it and maybe get some feedback. I'll check back here to see what you have to say. I look forward to hearing from you soon!&lt;br /&gt;
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:Yo James!  I'm glad I inspired you.  You don't really need my permission or anything, especially since I am no longer technically active on this site (we have moved to here- [http://dungeons.wikia.com/wiki/Dungeons_and_Dragons_Wiki] over some foolish highschool drama.  You can read Green Dragon's page to see the story, personally I have a bit of a problem getting kicked in the nuts for something unrelated to me.  But that's a story for another time, about those saiyans... by all means feel free to chat it up, especially since all my material here is being altered.  Don't worry though, the original Saiyans remains intact on the Wikia, and it will be some time before I reach the saiyans.  :)  I have a lot of articles and a lot of work here, too much simply for it to go to waste.  Don't forget to sign your posts through dude, it's &amp;quot;~ ~ ~ ~&amp;quot; at the end of your post, minus spaces.&lt;br /&gt;
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:I'll be around! -- [[User:Eiji|Eiji]] 09:09, 30 August 2009 (MDT)&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
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		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;Surgo: /* I Missz Youz */&lt;/p&gt;
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==Welcome to D&amp;amp;D Wiki==&lt;br /&gt;
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Hello Eiji, and on behalf of [[User:Green Dragon|Green Dragon]], welcome to D&amp;amp;D Wiki! Thank you for your contributions. We hope you like D&amp;amp;D Wiki and decide to stay. [[User:Green Dragon|Green Dragon]] is the owner of the site (though he's unavailable right now), and if you have a question feel free to ask me in his absence, however when contacting anyone on D&amp;amp;D Wiki through talk pages please sign your name using four tildes &amp;lt;nowiki&amp;gt;(~~~~)&amp;lt;/nowiki&amp;gt;; this will automatically produce your name and the date.  Also, if you want to help D&amp;amp;D Wiki but just don't know how  [http://www.dandwiki.com/wiki/index.php?title=User_talk:Sledged&amp;amp;action=edit&amp;amp;section=new drop me a note] and I'll see what I can do.  (Alternatively, you can [http://www.dandwiki.com/wiki/index.php?title=User_talk:Green_Dragon&amp;amp;action=edit&amp;amp;section=new leave a message on Green Dragon's talk page].  I and a few others keep tabs on the discussions going on there.)  However, when leaving a note please indicate how much time you would like to spend working, how well you know the Wiki Format, and how well you know D&amp;amp;D.  I hope you enjoy editing here and being a D&amp;amp;D Wikian! If you need help ask me on my talk page, [[User:Green Dragon|Green Dragon]]'s talk page, or just right here.  Again, welcome!  —[[User:Sledged|Sledged]] ([[User talk:Sledged|talk]]) 12:41, 2 July 2007 (MDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Nomination for Adminship ==&lt;br /&gt;
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Hey!  I just [[Requests for Adminship/Eiji|nominated you for adminship]].  I hope you make it ''':)'''.  However, you really should fill out the &amp;quot;Candidates Prelude&amp;quot; information on that page and you should probably also make a user page (since so many things are linking to it right now, like the main page, etc, and it looks unprofessional to not have one ''':)''').  Again, hope you make it ''':)'''.  --[[User:Green Dragon|Green Dragon]] 16:32, 27 November 2007 (MST)&lt;br /&gt;
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:Sadly you did not make adminship...  Maybe next time ''':)'''.  --[[User:Green Dragon|Green Dragon]] 22:54, 4 December 2007 (MST)&lt;br /&gt;
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::@-@  The things that happen when I vanish for a week.  Come and gone before I even knew.... &lt;br /&gt;
::Well, I suppose it doesn't matter.  I still need to get a handle on things (and more time, what with Xmas season working at KB Toy does not let you rest).  I do have one question though, how do I make a user page? -- [[User:Eiji|Eiji]] 00:03, 5 December 2007 (MST)&lt;br /&gt;
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:::Follow the red link in your signature (or the red &amp;quot;user page&amp;quot; link at the top of this page), fill in whatever info you'd like to give about yourself, and hit &amp;quot;save page.&amp;quot;  —[[User:Sledged|Sledged]] ([[User talk:Sledged|talk]]) 02:33, 5 December 2007 (MST)&lt;br /&gt;
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::::I think we should re-nominate you Eiji, for the reason that I stated [[Requests for Adminship/Eiji|here]]. --[[User:Sam Kay|Sam Kay]] 11:28, 5 December 2007 (MST)&lt;br /&gt;
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:::::Maybe after Christmas would be a better time, seeing that Eiji works at a toy shop (right?) and I do not think it would be the best idea to re-nominate someone within the same month...  Although a re-nomination does seem like a good idea.  --[[User:Green Dragon|Green Dragon]] 14:57, 5 December 2007 (MST)&lt;br /&gt;
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::::::Yeah, I agree. --[[User:Sam Kay|Sam Kay]] 08:19, 6 December 2007 (MST)&lt;br /&gt;
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:::::::I agree too, whew.  Well, user page is up, have a look-see! -- [[User:Eiji|Eiji]] 22:41, 6 December 2007 (MST)&lt;br /&gt;
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::::::::Good luck for January! --[[User:Sir Milo Teabag|Sir Milo Teabag]] 12:03, 8 December 2007 (MST)&lt;br /&gt;
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:::::::::Also, I am sure [[User:Sledged|Sledged]] would be proud of how your user page looks ''':P'''.  --[[User:Green Dragon|Green Dragon]] 21:29, 9 December 2007 (MST)&lt;br /&gt;
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::::::::::So, you still want to go for it?  It is January now ''':P'''...  --[[User:Green Dragon|Green Dragon]] 12:35, 15 January 2008 (MST)&lt;br /&gt;
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:::::::::::Let's do it! -- [[User:Eiji|Eiji]] 13:21, 15 January 2008 (MST)&lt;br /&gt;
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::::::::::::[[Requests for Adminship/Eiji]]  --[[User:Green Dragon|Green Dragon]] 13:44, 15 January 2008 (MST)&lt;br /&gt;
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:::::::::::::And, it has ended.  --[[User:Green Dragon|Green Dragon]] 01:32, 23 January 2008 (MST)&lt;br /&gt;
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:Welcome to Adminship.  You are now, as [[User:Dmilewski|Dmilewski]] once put it, part of &amp;quot;The Face&amp;quot; of D&amp;amp;D Wiki.  Honestly, as you will notice, not much has been changed now that you are an admin.  If anything, I would say more burden is placed on you.  But first, for the the new features and there uses.  You can now delete pages, protect pages, rollback edits, block users and IP's, edit every page, patrol edits, and do a couple more minor things.&lt;br /&gt;
:;What it is:&lt;br /&gt;
:*What deleting pages is, is self explanatory.&lt;br /&gt;
:*What protecting pages is, is also pretty self explanatory.&lt;br /&gt;
:*Rolling back edits is a method for removing spam.  It is more powerful than the conventional method of undoing edits.  Instead of showing a diff of the edit in question once clicked, it instantly rollsback all the edits by the user or IP in question on a certain page.  For example if I edited my user page and you clicked &amp;quot;rollback&amp;quot; on that edit it would rollback all the edits up to the point where someone else has edited it.  Be careful using this, it can be very helpful but also very harmful.&lt;br /&gt;
:*What blocking users and IP's is, is also self explanatory.&lt;br /&gt;
:*Editing every page is another self explanatory one.&lt;br /&gt;
:*Patrolling edits is a method for keeping [[Special:Recentchanges|RC]] in check, it can be seen once a diff is clicked.  All it does is, once &amp;quot;Mark as Patrolled Edits&amp;quot; is clicked, it marks the edits as patrolled so the edit will no longer show up on [[Special:Recentchanges|RC]] when &amp;quot;Hide Patrolled&amp;quot; is marked.&lt;br /&gt;
:;When or how it should be used&lt;br /&gt;
:*Deleting pages is normally done through [[:Category:Candidates for Deletion]].  Anything with a good reason to be deleted on that page should be deleted.  The other time pages should be deleted is when someone makes a certain page and after a few edits they either blank the page or replace it with something like &amp;quot;Please delete this&amp;quot;.  They don't want to work on it, and unless it is really well made and fleshed out, just delete it.&lt;br /&gt;
:*Protecting pages has quite a few different times when it should be used.  Pages should be protected according to the author's wishes (with [[Template:Locked Page]] added to the top of the page in question), in case of conflict  (with [[Template:Temp Locked Page]] added to the top of the page in question), in case of [[Help:FAQ#What are OGL, OGC, SRD, and GNU FPL?|OGC]] published materials (with [[Template:OGL Top]] added to the top of the page in question  and [[Template:OGL Bottom]] added to the bottom), or finally if the page is a vital part of D&amp;amp;D Wiki's organization.  If it deals with D&amp;amp;D Wiki's organization it either needs to be be protected from IP edits or all non-sysop edits.  As a rule of thumb pages up to two tiers deep from the [[Main Page]] are normally locked to anyone but sysops and all the others are just protected from IP edits.  For Example [[Dungeons and Dragons]] is protected from all non-sysop edits whereas a deeper in page like [[LA 0 Races]] is only protected from IP edits.  No template has to be added to pages if thay are part of D&amp;amp;D Wiki's organization (even though some do exist like [[Template:Admin Locked Page]])&lt;br /&gt;
:*Blocking a user or IP should only be used after an IP or user vandalizes a certain page.  To block someone just click &amp;quot;block&amp;quot; (found either on [[Special:Recentchanges|RC]] or the diff in question) and fill out the corresponding form.  For a typical vandalism attack I normally block the user for two weeks.  If I'm in a bad mood from vandalism or a certain discussion, then I sometimes block them for up to a month.  No standards have been set for block lengths, so it is currently really up to you when you block the user or IP.&lt;br /&gt;
:*Editing every page on D&amp;amp;D Wiki mostly means you can now edit the [[SRD:System Reference Document|SRD]] and the [[MSRD:Modern System Reference Document|MSRD]].  Feel free to edit them if you find inaccuracies.  Also, if you want to, for lack of a better word, major in the [[SRD:System Reference Document|SRD]] (as [[User:Dmilewski|Dmilewski]] has done) or the [[MSRD:Modern System Reference Document|MSRD]] (as [[User:EldritchNumen|EldrithNumen]] has done) take a look at [[SRD Talk:System Reference Document#SRD ToDo List]] or [[MSRD Talk:Modern System Reference Document#Tasks]] to see what needs to be done within the [[SRD:System Reference Document|SRD]] or [[MSRD:Modern System Reference Document|MSRD]].  There is never enough help to get it all done, so I am sure your help would be appreciated.&lt;br /&gt;
:*Patrolling edits should, in a nutshell, be used when you have looked over an edit and fixed everything that needs to be fixed (this includes answering questions, sending MoI's, etc).  If you decide to, for a lack of better words, major in [[Special:Recentchanges|RC]] (as I have ''':)''') then marking edits as patrolled will become commonplace and extremely helpful.  Below is how to &amp;quot;major&amp;quot; in recent changes, which would be a great help to D&amp;amp;D Wiki and I.  First off load recent changes and press &amp;quot;Hide patrolled edits&amp;quot;.  Next click any diff and look at the change.  Only if you are 100% sure that the edit is okay (taking formatting standards, page-linking (using the &amp;quot;what links here?&amp;quot; function), answering questions, sending MoI's, and line spacing between comments and/or the &amp;quot;Back to&amp;quot; footer into consideration) then mark the edit as patrolled.  If the edit is not okay then all you have to do is fix the problem then mark the edit as patrolled.  It's simple, but looking over every edit on D&amp;amp;D Wiki really keeps it looking and running well.  In my opinion, it is the most vital part of D&amp;amp;D Wiki.  Even marking only 20 edits as patrolled every day would be extremely helpful with this never-ending task.&lt;br /&gt;
:I know this is really long-winded, so I'll keep the rest short.  You have more burden on youself now that you are an admin because users will be looking at you for editing help, knowledge of the standards, etc etc.  It's a bit more work, but I really hope you enjoy being an admin and I hope you decide to stay around on D&amp;amp;D Wiki for a while more to come.  Welcome to Adminship, again, as [[User:Dmilewski|Dmilewski]] once put it, you're now part of &amp;quot;The Face&amp;quot; of D&amp;amp;D Wiki.  --[[User:Green Dragon|Green Dragon]] 01:32, 23 January 2008 (MST)&lt;br /&gt;
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::Whew, much to work on.  Thank you, I'll hold the title with honor and oven mitts (honorable oven mitts). -- [[User:Eiji|Eiji]] 16:45, 23 January 2008 (MST)&lt;br /&gt;
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:::''':)'''.  --[[User:Green Dragon|Green Dragon]] 22:47, 23 January 2008 (MST)&lt;br /&gt;
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== User Page ==&lt;br /&gt;
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Nice user page.  I'm flattered.  BTW, I went digging through the &amp;lt;span class=&amp;quot;plainlinks&amp;quot;&amp;gt;[http://www.dandwiki.com/w/index.php?title=Special:Log&amp;amp;user=Eiji logs]&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt; and found the date you created your username on the wiki, and inserted the date in your page. —[[User:Sledged|Sledged]] ([[User talk:Sledged|talk]]) 16:08, 7 December 2007 (MST)&lt;br /&gt;
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:Domo arigato Mr. Sledgedboto. -- [[User:Eiji|Eiji]] 22:20, 7 December 2007 (MST)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Happy Bunny Picture ==&lt;br /&gt;
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:''Discussion moved to [[Talk:Happy Bunny (DnD Creature)#Picture]]&amp;lt;small&amp;gt;The discussion was related to the happy bunny, not Eiji&amp;amp;nbsp;--[[User:Green Dragon|Green Dragon]] 13:24, 24 December 2007 (MST)&amp;lt;/small&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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== DBZ Conversion ==&lt;br /&gt;
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good luck with the state alchemist into D&amp;amp;D format, also very nice conversion of DBZ moves into D&amp;amp;D attacks.  {{Unsigned|Archangel|18:36, 10 February 2008 (MST)}}&lt;br /&gt;
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:Why thank you.  Eventually I'll work up that Superhuman/Super Saiyan prestige class at well.  I'm thinking epic. -- [[User:Eiji|Eiji]] 20:06, 10 February 2008 (MST)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Moving ==&lt;br /&gt;
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Trouble in the lands of reality, I have been and may still be only half here while I handle some terrible RL troubles.  I shall return in full, I promise.  -- [[User:Eiji|Eiji]] 14:55, 25 March 2008 (MDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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:Sounds good ''':)'''.  Thanks for keeping us updated.  --[[User:Green Dragon|Green Dragon]] 01:30, 26 March 2008 (MDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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::Alright, I'm back, mostly.  Time to ease back into posting flow. -- [[User:Eiji|Eiji]] 22:38, 10 April 2008 (MDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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==Thanks==&lt;br /&gt;
I never thanked you, You kinda helped get into the flow of this site, so i wanted to thank you for all your help.[[User:Summerscythe|Summerscythe]] 15:17, 29 May 2008 (MDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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:Awww, it's no problem.  Why, thank you.  ''':D'''  I hear you're trying to get the tavern hopping again (I'm in now actually, it's populated!) so I hope to see you in there soon. -- [[User:Eiji|Eiji]] 21:31, 29 May 2008 (MDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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== D&amp;amp;D Game ==&lt;br /&gt;
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Sorry, I alway played 2nd edition and im a little confused about how to do my char. Im not sure also if my characters concept suit you. Anyway if you could help me a little i would appreciate. With all grace to the mighty Eiji--[[User:Lord Dhazriel|Lord Dhazriel]] 23:52, 7 June 2008 (MDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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:Ah ha ha.  I'm not that great, but thank you.  Now, I will claim complete ignorance on 2e (I started in 3.5e) but I'll try to help where I can.  Unfortunately, where do I start?  The only major changes I can recall off hand is THAC0 turning into AC, weapon size changes, and spell changes.  There's more I'm sure of course, where do I start?&lt;br /&gt;
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:Anyway, hit me with your concept.  ''':D''' -- [[User:Eiji|Eiji]] 16:35, 8 June 2008 (MDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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:: You can find them on my [[User:Lord Dhazriel#Characters Concepts|user page]], by the way when the game begin.--[[User:Lord Dhazriel|Lord Dhazriel]] 17:23, 8 June 2008 (MDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Plushies!!! ==&lt;br /&gt;
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Hey dude can I post some racial feats I made for plushies?--[[User:Risek|Risek]] 12:54, 11 June 2008 (MDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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:Go for it.  ''':)''' -- [[User:Eiji|Eiji]] 16:33, 11 June 2008 (MDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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::Ok--[[User:Risek|Risek]] 21:51, 11 June 2008 (MDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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**[[Icky Icky (DnD Feat)]]&lt;br /&gt;
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== EIJI!!!!!!!!!!!! ==&lt;br /&gt;
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Go to the tavern {{Unsigned|Risek}}&lt;br /&gt;
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:And again! --[[User:Daniel Draco|Daniel Draco]] 20:38, 24 November 2008 (MST)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Live Forever ==&lt;br /&gt;
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&amp;quot;Must convert self into D&amp;amp;D form, and live forever!&amp;quot;&lt;br /&gt;
lol watch out for inevitables XD --[[User:Jack Bread|Jack Bread]] 23:45, 20 July 2008 (MDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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== I had a question ==&lt;br /&gt;
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The Spell you made, Ell's Handy Homunculus, is awesome, but me and my roomie were wondering if a Plushie spellcaster (btw Plushies are my new favorite race) can make one and how, as they possess no blood of their own. Just a question.- Tripp Thorne&lt;br /&gt;
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:Thank you kindly.  You most certainly can use it.  Plushie blood is stuffing, so you can use that to supplement for the blood component.&lt;br /&gt;
:(That's crazy!  I have blood!  It's right inside this sack of meat here!)&lt;br /&gt;
:Eiji Plushie, what are you doing, I'm not a sack of mEAATAAAGAGHJHFJOHHWFJHKJAWHjk3rjafsf&lt;br /&gt;
:...-- [[User:Eiji|Eiji]] 15:17, 20 August 2008 (MDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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::Another quick question: Is it cool if I post some Plushy Feats I've been working on? - Tripp Thorne&lt;br /&gt;
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:::Go for it! -- [[User:Eiji|Eiji]] 09:27, 22 August 2008 (MDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Question: Bladed Fan ==&lt;br /&gt;
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My question concerns this: ''&amp;quot;Larger or smaller fans create larger or smaller effects. It is the maximum amount of damage your fan is capable of down one '''size category'''. (A Large fan, dealing 1d6 damage, creates a 5 mph wind every +1, and a Small fan, dealing 1d3, does 2 mph).&amp;quot;''&lt;br /&gt;
Is that simply supposed to be the maximum damage of the weapon -1? I ask because &amp;quot;5&amp;quot; isn't a maximum damage of any weapon at any size category. I also ask because gargantuan and colossal fans get out of hand pretty quickly (2d6 gargantuan would produce 11mph per point of strength bonus, producing tornado winds with only a strength modifier of +16. And a colossal version would be even easier to produce tornado winds with (strength modifier +11; keeping even gargantuan and colossal creatures checked).&lt;br /&gt;
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And, lastly, does the full round action provoke attacks of opportunity? --Nox_Noctis&lt;br /&gt;
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:Good catch there, looks like I mixed up some of the old text with the new text when I had it based on a different system, and ended up making it even more confusing.  It happens, and now its fixed, making it difficult to use, and provoking AoOs to prevent abuses from very strong PCs with huge Str scores and huger fans.  I've made the alterations and clarifications needed.  -- [[User:Eiji|Eiji]] 00:15, 26 August 2008 (MDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Question: Kopiko Draw Spell-like Ability ==&lt;br /&gt;
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How is the Will (''save''; word left out in the race entry) DC determined? Which ability modifier does it use? --Nox_Noctis&lt;br /&gt;
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:Default is always 10 + 1/2 HD + [[Cha]], btu I'll go clarify that now. -- [[User:Eiji|Eiji]] 13:55, 26 August 2008 (MDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Question about the Domain Time Warp ==&lt;br /&gt;
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Hello, my name is Santiago Mendez, my user name is Sarrow. I was wondering if I could use your cleric domain Time Warp for a Deity that I am making? -[[User:Sarrow|Sarrow]] 15:35, 11 September 2008 (MDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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:By all means.  ''':D'''  Everything on the Wiki is free to use.  I'm flattered you like my work, by all means.  -- [[User:Eiji|Eiji]] 07:38, 14 September 2008 (MDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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::Yeah, the deity is Aetas, the Father of Time. -[[User:Sarrow|Sarrow]] 14:14, 14 September 2008 (MDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Nezumi ==&lt;br /&gt;
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Thanks for the info; I wasn't sure there was a nezumi so I decided to make one.--[[User:Archangel|Arael]] 17:21, 19 September 2008 (MDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Barnstar ==&lt;br /&gt;
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{{Anti-Vandal Barnstar|This one is for reverting the childish edits to the Chuck Norris page so quickly.  The page always seems to attract vandals, and Eiji was quick to get it reverted. --[[User:Aarnott|Aarnott]] 11:24, 22 July 2008 (MDT) }}&lt;br /&gt;
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== AHHHHHHH!!!! ==&lt;br /&gt;
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AHHHH! AHHHHH!!!! What am I doing?? I don't know! You wrote on my page and I wanted to write back! Eiji! I want to draw Lord Eiji for his page on the wiki at some point, if you don't mind. I realize I've committed to drawing a whole pile of things already, but I want to add that one to the list because I saw he had not picture yet and I thought it would be fun to draw. AHHHH!!!! --[[User:Lumi|Lumi]] 20:28, 25 October 2008 (MDT)Lumi&lt;br /&gt;
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:AAAAHHHH!!!!!!  AAAAAAAAHHHHHHH!!!!  OMG AAAAAHHHHH!!!!  Lord Eiji, holy crap yes, AAAHHHHH!!!!  I shall PM you pictures of his plush continence, just add wings and ears and tail, and then DELICIOUSNESS!  Go on, I dare you to SHOW ME YOUR MOVES!  YES!&lt;br /&gt;
:LUMI PAWNCH! -- [[User:Eiji|Eiji]] 21:04, 25 October 2008 (MDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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::AHHH!!!!  You dared me and I did it!  Mostly!  But you are asleep!!!!!!  NOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!  &lt;br /&gt;
::Now I have to wait until tomorrow to find out what you think! --[[User:Lumi|Lumi]] 02:27, 27 October 2008 (MDT)Lumi&lt;br /&gt;
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:::AAAAAHHHHHHH!!!!!!  King Eiji is preparing a SOLAR PLUSHIE PAWWWWWNCH!  You have won INTERNETS and LONGCATS!  TOP SCORE!!!  -- [[User:Eiji|Eiji]] 09:44, 27 October 2008 (MDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Spellborg Feat==&lt;br /&gt;
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Hey I made this in a moment of creativity. [[Improved Spellborg (DnD Feat)|Improved Spellborg]] I hope you don't mind. Tell me what you think of it. --[[User:Lord Dhazriel|Lord Dhazriel]] 13:51, 30 October 2008 (MDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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:Hmmm, interesting.  I'll look at the balance later, but the concept of expanding template powers with feats is novel. -- [[User:Eiji|Eiji]] 20:22, 30 October 2008 (MDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Sky Eye and the Clockwork subtype ==&lt;br /&gt;
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I looked at your creature entry for [[Sky Eye (DnD Creature)]] and there was no accompanying link for the clockwork subtype. Also, what does Locomotion and Observation do for a Sky Eye?&lt;br /&gt;
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:I forgot to link it, didn't I?  I do have the clockwork subtype page around here somewhere.  When I return, in a rush.&lt;br /&gt;
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:The short of it is that Locomotion and Observation are the subjects it is allowed to act &amp;quot;intelligent&amp;quot; on, using it's Cha as Int for the purposes of movement and watching things, so it won't easily be tricked by a wall in the way or by someone hiding, and it'll remember.  However, for all other subjects, say, combat, it's generic construct programming.  &amp;quot;I hit it again!&amp;quot; -- [[User:Eiji|Eiji]] 15:52, 17 November 2008 (MST)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Nomination ==&lt;br /&gt;
Hello, I've recently opened up a Request for Adminship for myself at [[Requests for Adminship/Hooper]], and as an admin yourself, would greatly appreciate your input, suggestions, thoughts, or general comments.  Thanks. &amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;lt;small&amp;gt;&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;border: 1px solid blue; -moz-border-radius:10px&amp;quot;&amp;gt;[[User:Hooper|'''&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;background-color:White; color:FireBrick; -moz-border-radius-topleft:10px; -moz-border-radius-bottomleft:10px&amp;quot;&amp;gt;  Hooper  &amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;''']][[User talk:Hooper|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;background-color:red; color:blue; -moz-border-radius-bottomleft:10px; -moz-border-radius-topleft:10px&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;amp;nbsp;talk&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]][[Special:Contributions/Hooper|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;background-color:red; color:blue&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;amp;nbsp;contribs&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]][[Special:Emailuser/Hooper|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;background-color:red; color:blue; -moz-border-radius-bottomright:10px; -moz-border-radius-topright:10px&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;amp;nbsp;email&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]]&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;&amp;lt;/small&amp;gt; 19:21, 16 December 2008 (MST)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Plushie 4e? ==&lt;br /&gt;
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Hey Eiji, I was wondering if you were planning on making plushies 4e. there would need to be some serious reworking of it but i love the idea of them. I would really like just at least the race, and the Go boom as an encounter power. [[User:Master K|Master K]] 16:51, 8 April 2009 (MDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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:As is, I am not a 4e player.  However, if someone with the know how wishes to, I give you permission to translate them into 4e mechanics.  Hee hee hee.  -- [[User:Eiji|Eiji]] 19:54, 8 April 2009 (MDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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::I am not too good at it and i will give it a try, is this an invatation to anyone or just me? [[User:Master K|Master K]] 19:58, 8 April 2009 (MDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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:::Anyone.  Know any 4e gurus?  -- [[User:Eiji|Eiji]] 21:37, 8 April 2009 (MDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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:::: [[User:Sepsis|Sepsis]] or [[User:Sam Kay|Sam Kay]], both made 4e featured article. Maybe they want to help. --[[User:Lord Dhazriel|Lord Dhazriel]] 22:18, 8 April 2009 (MDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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:::::Just so you know, [[User:Sam Kay|Sam Kay]] finished the conversion. Here it is.[[Eijilund_Plushies_(4e_Race)|Eijilund Plushies(4e Race)]][[User:Master K|Master K]] 16:16, 7 July 2009 (MDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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== AdminBadge ==&lt;br /&gt;
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I'd like to label you as an admin with the &amp;lt;s&amp;gt;&amp;lt;nowiki&amp;gt;[[Template:AdminBadge]]&amp;lt;/nowiki&amp;gt;&amp;lt;/s&amp;gt; on your user page. If you have a reason you don't think you should have the badge or you don't think the badge is a good idea, please discuss it on the badge's [[Template talk:AdminBadge|discussion]]. -[[User:Valentine the Rogue|Valentine the Rogue]] 16:06, 11 April 2009 (MDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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:Coo' with me bro. -- [[User:Eiji|Eiji]] 20:54, 11 April 2009 (MDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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==I Missz Youz==&lt;br /&gt;
Eiji... I missz youz...  --[[User:Jay Freedman|Jay Freedman]] 22:59, 28 August 2009 (MDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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:I has a fan.  :)  Well no loss, I intend to have great comedy with all my derelict pages now. -- [[User:Eiji|Eiji]] 23:07, 28 August 2009 (MDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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::Good!  I was hoping you wouldn't just up and leave.  This place needs a person like you hanging around.  Much Luvz and Kizz'z.  --[[User:Jay Freedman|Jay Freedman]] 23:12, 28 August 2009 (MDT)(I am totally just kidding about the Luvz and Kizz'z.  Ok...)&lt;br /&gt;
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:::But how will I be able to fulfill my secret fantasies about you without the luvz and kizz'z?  :O&lt;br /&gt;
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:::Wait, those aren't the ancient eldritch words for death and destruction?  Oops.  Anyway, yeah, I'm leaving links everywhere where you can find my actual stuff now. -- [[User:Eiji|Eiji]] 23:14, 28 August 2009 (MDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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::::I truly hope the above isn't a reference to any possible premeditated vandalism. &amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;lt;small&amp;gt;&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;border: 1px solid black; -moz-border-radius:10px&amp;quot;&amp;gt;[[User:Hooper|'''&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;background-color:White; color:Black; -moz-border-radius-topleft:10px; -moz-border-radius-bottomleft:10px&amp;quot;&amp;gt;  Hooper  &amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;''']][[User talk:Hooper|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;background-color:Black; color:white; -moz-border-radius-bottomleft:10px; -moz-border-radius-topleft:10px&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;amp;nbsp;talk&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]][[Special:Contributions/Hooper|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;background-color:black; color:white&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;amp;nbsp;contribs&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]][[Special:Emailuser/Hooper|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;background-color:black; color:white; -moz-border-radius-bottomright:10px; -moz-border-radius-topright:10px&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;amp;nbsp;email&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]]&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;&amp;lt;/small&amp;gt; 10:27, 29 August 2009 (MDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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:::::Look at the changes Eiji's made. Everything is still functional with an added bit of tongue-in-cheek humor. -- [[User:Jota|Jota]] 10:31, 29 August 2009 (MDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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::::::Heh, I always found the concept of self-vandalizing to be nonsensical.  It's like... self-theft.  You really CAN'T do it.  But no, this is insurance.  I do not want a repeat of Sulacu, where they decide simply to steal your name off your work.  All this stuff will be mine.  All this stuff will be workable.  However, as in reflection to the feeling of this site, I will not be terribly serious.  If you're looking for classes appropriate for Serious Business d20 Wikia is there for that.  This is now Lolcat d20.  Expect lolcats and lol wut pears and running bears having a seat over there. -- [[User:Eiji|Eiji]] 20:19, 29 August 2009 (MDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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:::::::No, this wiki is '''not''' a joke.  Treat it with respect. &amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;lt;small&amp;gt;&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;border: 1px solid black; -moz-border-radius:10px&amp;quot;&amp;gt;[[User:Hooper|'''&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;background-color:White; color:Black; -moz-border-radius-topleft:10px; -moz-border-radius-bottomleft:10px&amp;quot;&amp;gt;  Hooper  &amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;''']][[User talk:Hooper|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;background-color:Black; color:white; -moz-border-radius-bottomleft:10px; -moz-border-radius-topleft:10px&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;amp;nbsp;talk&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]][[Special:Contributions/Hooper|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;background-color:black; color:white&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;amp;nbsp;contribs&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]][[Special:Emailuser/Hooper|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;background-color:black; color:white; -moz-border-radius-bottomright:10px; -moz-border-radius-topright:10px&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;amp;nbsp;email&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]]&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;&amp;lt;/small&amp;gt; 21:29, 29 August 2009 (MDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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::::::::Why so serious?  :D  *Jokergrin*  If you have a problem with humor, that's what April Fools is there for.  You can put it on everything yourself if you want, I don't feel the need to bother.  Or, if you're telling me that joke pages are bad, may I suggest asking Green Dragon to change policy and remove the April Fools category.&lt;br /&gt;
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::::::::Just don't get banned while asking.  ;) -- [[User:Eiji|Eiji]] 21:41, 29 August 2009 (MDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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:::::::::Hooper, take a chill pill.  Its his original Shizz'nits.  I kinda like the changes too. This is not a negative thing.  Its a Luvz and Kizz'z thang'.  --[[User:Jay Freedman|Jay Freedman]] 21:56, 29 August 2009 (MDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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:When someone says ''&amp;quot;Serious Business d20 Wikia is there for that.  This is now Lolcat d20.&amp;quot;'' it is completely clear that they are belittling this wiki's place, and establishing a clear intention to make less of it - even if only through their own articles.  This is not acceptable on any level, and it is a very negative thing. &amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;lt;small&amp;gt;&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;border: 1px solid black; -moz-border-radius:10px&amp;quot;&amp;gt;[[User:Hooper|'''&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;background-color:White; color:Black; -moz-border-radius-topleft:10px; -moz-border-radius-bottomleft:10px&amp;quot;&amp;gt;  Hooper  &amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;''']][[User talk:Hooper|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;background-color:Black; color:white; -moz-border-radius-bottomleft:10px; -moz-border-radius-topleft:10px&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;amp;nbsp;talk&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]][[Special:Contributions/Hooper|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;background-color:black; color:white&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;amp;nbsp;contribs&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]][[Special:Emailuser/Hooper|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;background-color:black; color:white; -moz-border-radius-bottomright:10px; -moz-border-radius-topright:10px&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;amp;nbsp;email&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]]&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;&amp;lt;/small&amp;gt; 22:15, 29 August 2009 (MDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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:: You aren't familiar with Eiji's madness aren't you? --[[User:Lord Dhazriel|Dhazriel]] 22:21, 29 August 2009 (MDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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:::Actually, I am.  Which is why I said above that I hoped his statements wouldn't lead to vandalism, whether he is conscious of it or not.  His &amp;quot;madness&amp;quot; as you put it should not be allowed to deteriorate this wiki, even if he is a nice guy. &amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;lt;small&amp;gt;&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;border: 1px solid black; -moz-border-radius:10px&amp;quot;&amp;gt;[[User:Hooper|'''&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;background-color:White; color:Black; -moz-border-radius-topleft:10px; -moz-border-radius-bottomleft:10px&amp;quot;&amp;gt;  Hooper  &amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;''']][[User talk:Hooper|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;background-color:Black; color:white; -moz-border-radius-bottomleft:10px; -moz-border-radius-topleft:10px&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;amp;nbsp;talk&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]][[Special:Contributions/Hooper|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;background-color:black; color:white&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;amp;nbsp;contribs&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]][[Special:Emailuser/Hooper|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;background-color:black; color:white; -moz-border-radius-bottomright:10px; -moz-border-radius-topright:10px&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;amp;nbsp;email&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]]&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;&amp;lt;/small&amp;gt; 22:24, 29 August 2009 (MDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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::::I made Sheep the Head and Lord Eiji the god of gumdrops from the heavens.  That was before the Wikipocalypse.  Tell me, have I belittled the Wiki?  What of the Farmer and Cheerleader (which brings to question how to I alternative those... maybe I'll make them DEAD SERIOUS BUSINESS or something).  Those belittling too?&lt;br /&gt;
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::::I ask you this because it's important.  Technically, I have no use for my work being here anymore.  I'd like to have it deleted.  BUT I CAN'T, due to a very silly ruling.  Rather than fight the power, I'll play along and do what I can do.  One thing I can do it see what happens when I want to run my sillier games but need solid mechanics behind it.  It's called reflavoring.&lt;br /&gt;
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::::Like I said, take time out of your life to April Fools it all if it offends you so.  I don't mind, really.  Anyway, you'll still have quality posters here like Jason Bagby if you need serious business.&lt;br /&gt;
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::::... ok, that last part WAS a joke.  XD  Laugh it off.  -- [[User:Eiji|Eiji]] 22:43, 29 August 2009 (MDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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:::::Wow Hooper, I wish you had this sort of zeal back when our copyright was being violated! [[User:Surgo|Surgo]] 08:48, 30 August 2009 (MDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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::::::After closer inspection of the GNU FDL, and reading numerous legal analysis of it's relationship to wikis, I learned that the copyright wasn't being violated in any way, actually. But that is another story for another time - and one that actually surprised me. &amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;lt;small&amp;gt;&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;border: 1px solid black; -moz-border-radius:10px&amp;quot;&amp;gt;[[User:Hooper|'''&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;background-color:White; color:Black; -moz-border-radius-topleft:10px; -moz-border-radius-bottomleft:10px&amp;quot;&amp;gt;  Hooper  &amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;''']][[User talk:Hooper|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;background-color:Black; color:white; -moz-border-radius-bottomleft:10px; -moz-border-radius-topleft:10px&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;amp;nbsp;talk&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]][[Special:Contributions/Hooper|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;background-color:black; color:white&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;amp;nbsp;contribs&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]][[Special:Emailuser/Hooper|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;background-color:black; color:white; -moz-border-radius-bottomright:10px; -moz-border-radius-topright:10px&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;amp;nbsp;email&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]]&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;&amp;lt;/small&amp;gt; 08:53, 30 August 2009 (MDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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:::::::Actually, it was being violated (just because Wikipedia does it doesn't mean it's legal). Stripping off the names of the authors from the title page is explicitly not allowed. [[User:Surgo|Surgo]] 12:38, 30 August 2009 (MDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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:As long as a history exists, then that requirement of having the author's information is already met.  I don't even agree with that fully, but it is just how it is, whether we like it or not.  &amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;lt;small&amp;gt;&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;border: 1px solid black; -moz-border-radius:10px&amp;quot;&amp;gt;[[User:Hooper|'''&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;background-color:White; color:Black; -moz-border-radius-topleft:10px; -moz-border-radius-bottomleft:10px&amp;quot;&amp;gt;  Hooper  &amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;''']][[User talk:Hooper|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;background-color:Black; color:white; -moz-border-radius-bottomleft:10px; -moz-border-radius-topleft:10px&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;amp;nbsp;talk&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]][[Special:Contributions/Hooper|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;background-color:black; color:white&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;amp;nbsp;contribs&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]][[Special:Emailuser/Hooper|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;background-color:black; color:white; -moz-border-radius-bottomright:10px; -moz-border-radius-topright:10px&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;amp;nbsp;email&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]]&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;&amp;lt;/small&amp;gt; 12:46, 30 August 2009 (MDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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::Except...it's not just a requirement of &amp;quot;having the author's information&amp;quot;. The requirement is you have the author's information '''on the title page'''. Explicitly. On the title page. Not the history page (which is a separate, distinct entity under the GFDL). [[User:Surgo|Surgo]] 12:49, 30 August 2009 (MDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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:::I'm not a legal expert in this particular field, however, when it came up the other day with TK I looked into it.  Lawyer after lawyer has stated that legally speaking, the history page qualify because it is technically still the title page.  Go look it up.  Its crazy. &amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;lt;small&amp;gt;&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;border: 1px solid black; -moz-border-radius:10px&amp;quot;&amp;gt;[[User:Hooper|'''&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;background-color:White; color:Black; -moz-border-radius-topleft:10px; -moz-border-radius-bottomleft:10px&amp;quot;&amp;gt;  Hooper  &amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;''']][[User talk:Hooper|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;background-color:Black; color:white; -moz-border-radius-bottomleft:10px; -moz-border-radius-topleft:10px&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;amp;nbsp;talk&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]][[Special:Contributions/Hooper|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;background-color:black; color:white&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;amp;nbsp;contribs&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]][[Special:Emailuser/Hooper|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;background-color:black; color:white; -moz-border-radius-bottomright:10px; -moz-border-radius-topright:10px&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;amp;nbsp;email&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]]&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;&amp;lt;/small&amp;gt; 12:54, 30 August 2009 (MDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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::::Lawyer after lawyer? I'm quite interested in seeing that. Where are these lawyers who have claimed this? If that's the case (actual J.D.s saying this), I'll stop my complaints. [[User:Surgo|Surgo]] 12:57, 30 August 2009 (MDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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:::::When I started looking it up after TK brought it up, I first read the GNU site, then the GNU pages on wikipedia and their talk pages, and it just kind of spearheads you into a spiral of legal talk after legal talk with links to accompany it.  When you have some time look at it, some of it is insane. &amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;lt;small&amp;gt;&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;border: 1px solid black; -moz-border-radius:10px&amp;quot;&amp;gt;[[User:Hooper|'''&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;background-color:White; color:Black; -moz-border-radius-topleft:10px; -moz-border-radius-bottomleft:10px&amp;quot;&amp;gt;  Hooper  &amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;''']][[User talk:Hooper|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;background-color:Black; color:white; -moz-border-radius-bottomleft:10px; -moz-border-radius-topleft:10px&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;amp;nbsp;talk&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]][[Special:Contributions/Hooper|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;background-color:black; color:white&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;amp;nbsp;contribs&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]][[Special:Emailuser/Hooper|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;background-color:black; color:white; -moz-border-radius-bottomright:10px; -moz-border-radius-topright:10px&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;amp;nbsp;email&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]]&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;&amp;lt;/small&amp;gt; 13:22, 30 August 2009 (MDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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::::::Yeah, and...do any of them actually hold JDs? [[User:Surgo|Surgo]] 13:32, 30 August 2009 (MDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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:::::::In fact, the only discussion I could find (''on wikipedia'', none the less) agrees with my interpretation of &amp;quot;title page&amp;quot;. [[User:Surgo|Surgo]] 13:40, 30 August 2009 (MDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Saiyans ==&lt;br /&gt;
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Hey Eiji, My name is James and I found D&amp;amp;D Wiki, and your page by yahoo search while looking for a D&amp;amp;D Saiyan Race. Ive been working on my own version for some time, and after reading what you came up with, Id very much like to be able to have a conversation at length with you over messenger and show you what Ive got so far and see what you think about it and maybe get some feedback. I'll check back here to see what you have to say. I look forward to hearing from you soon!&lt;br /&gt;
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:Yo James!  I'm glad I inspired you.  You don't really need my permission or anything, especially since I am no longer technically active on this site (we have moved to here- [http://dungeons.wikia.com/wiki/Dungeons_and_Dragons_Wiki] over some foolish highschool drama.  You can read Green Dragon's page to see the story, personally I have a bit of a problem getting kicked in the nuts for something unrelated to me.  But that's a story for another time, about those saiyans... by all means feel free to chat it up, especially since all my material here is being altered.  Don't worry though, the original Saiyans remains intact on the Wikia, and it will be some time before I reach the saiyans.  :)  I have a lot of articles and a lot of work here, too much simply for it to go to waste.  Don't forget to sign your posts through dude, it's &amp;quot;~ ~ ~ ~&amp;quot; at the end of your post, minus spaces.&lt;br /&gt;
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:I'll be around! -- [[User:Eiji|Eiji]] 09:09, 30 August 2009 (MDT)&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
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		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;Surgo: /* I Missz Youz */&lt;/p&gt;
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==Welcome to D&amp;amp;D Wiki==&lt;br /&gt;
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Hello Eiji, and on behalf of [[User:Green Dragon|Green Dragon]], welcome to D&amp;amp;D Wiki! Thank you for your contributions. We hope you like D&amp;amp;D Wiki and decide to stay. [[User:Green Dragon|Green Dragon]] is the owner of the site (though he's unavailable right now), and if you have a question feel free to ask me in his absence, however when contacting anyone on D&amp;amp;D Wiki through talk pages please sign your name using four tildes &amp;lt;nowiki&amp;gt;(~~~~)&amp;lt;/nowiki&amp;gt;; this will automatically produce your name and the date.  Also, if you want to help D&amp;amp;D Wiki but just don't know how  [http://www.dandwiki.com/wiki/index.php?title=User_talk:Sledged&amp;amp;action=edit&amp;amp;section=new drop me a note] and I'll see what I can do.  (Alternatively, you can [http://www.dandwiki.com/wiki/index.php?title=User_talk:Green_Dragon&amp;amp;action=edit&amp;amp;section=new leave a message on Green Dragon's talk page].  I and a few others keep tabs on the discussions going on there.)  However, when leaving a note please indicate how much time you would like to spend working, how well you know the Wiki Format, and how well you know D&amp;amp;D.  I hope you enjoy editing here and being a D&amp;amp;D Wikian! If you need help ask me on my talk page, [[User:Green Dragon|Green Dragon]]'s talk page, or just right here.  Again, welcome!  —[[User:Sledged|Sledged]] ([[User talk:Sledged|talk]]) 12:41, 2 July 2007 (MDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Nomination for Adminship ==&lt;br /&gt;
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Hey!  I just [[Requests for Adminship/Eiji|nominated you for adminship]].  I hope you make it ''':)'''.  However, you really should fill out the &amp;quot;Candidates Prelude&amp;quot; information on that page and you should probably also make a user page (since so many things are linking to it right now, like the main page, etc, and it looks unprofessional to not have one ''':)''').  Again, hope you make it ''':)'''.  --[[User:Green Dragon|Green Dragon]] 16:32, 27 November 2007 (MST)&lt;br /&gt;
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:Sadly you did not make adminship...  Maybe next time ''':)'''.  --[[User:Green Dragon|Green Dragon]] 22:54, 4 December 2007 (MST)&lt;br /&gt;
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::@-@  The things that happen when I vanish for a week.  Come and gone before I even knew.... &lt;br /&gt;
::Well, I suppose it doesn't matter.  I still need to get a handle on things (and more time, what with Xmas season working at KB Toy does not let you rest).  I do have one question though, how do I make a user page? -- [[User:Eiji|Eiji]] 00:03, 5 December 2007 (MST)&lt;br /&gt;
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:::Follow the red link in your signature (or the red &amp;quot;user page&amp;quot; link at the top of this page), fill in whatever info you'd like to give about yourself, and hit &amp;quot;save page.&amp;quot;  —[[User:Sledged|Sledged]] ([[User talk:Sledged|talk]]) 02:33, 5 December 2007 (MST)&lt;br /&gt;
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::::I think we should re-nominate you Eiji, for the reason that I stated [[Requests for Adminship/Eiji|here]]. --[[User:Sam Kay|Sam Kay]] 11:28, 5 December 2007 (MST)&lt;br /&gt;
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:::::Maybe after Christmas would be a better time, seeing that Eiji works at a toy shop (right?) and I do not think it would be the best idea to re-nominate someone within the same month...  Although a re-nomination does seem like a good idea.  --[[User:Green Dragon|Green Dragon]] 14:57, 5 December 2007 (MST)&lt;br /&gt;
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::::::Yeah, I agree. --[[User:Sam Kay|Sam Kay]] 08:19, 6 December 2007 (MST)&lt;br /&gt;
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:::::::I agree too, whew.  Well, user page is up, have a look-see! -- [[User:Eiji|Eiji]] 22:41, 6 December 2007 (MST)&lt;br /&gt;
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::::::::Good luck for January! --[[User:Sir Milo Teabag|Sir Milo Teabag]] 12:03, 8 December 2007 (MST)&lt;br /&gt;
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:::::::::Also, I am sure [[User:Sledged|Sledged]] would be proud of how your user page looks ''':P'''.  --[[User:Green Dragon|Green Dragon]] 21:29, 9 December 2007 (MST)&lt;br /&gt;
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::::::::::So, you still want to go for it?  It is January now ''':P'''...  --[[User:Green Dragon|Green Dragon]] 12:35, 15 January 2008 (MST)&lt;br /&gt;
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:::::::::::Let's do it! -- [[User:Eiji|Eiji]] 13:21, 15 January 2008 (MST)&lt;br /&gt;
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::::::::::::[[Requests for Adminship/Eiji]]  --[[User:Green Dragon|Green Dragon]] 13:44, 15 January 2008 (MST)&lt;br /&gt;
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:::::::::::::And, it has ended.  --[[User:Green Dragon|Green Dragon]] 01:32, 23 January 2008 (MST)&lt;br /&gt;
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:Welcome to Adminship.  You are now, as [[User:Dmilewski|Dmilewski]] once put it, part of &amp;quot;The Face&amp;quot; of D&amp;amp;D Wiki.  Honestly, as you will notice, not much has been changed now that you are an admin.  If anything, I would say more burden is placed on you.  But first, for the the new features and there uses.  You can now delete pages, protect pages, rollback edits, block users and IP's, edit every page, patrol edits, and do a couple more minor things.&lt;br /&gt;
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:*What deleting pages is, is self explanatory.&lt;br /&gt;
:*What protecting pages is, is also pretty self explanatory.&lt;br /&gt;
:*Rolling back edits is a method for removing spam.  It is more powerful than the conventional method of undoing edits.  Instead of showing a diff of the edit in question once clicked, it instantly rollsback all the edits by the user or IP in question on a certain page.  For example if I edited my user page and you clicked &amp;quot;rollback&amp;quot; on that edit it would rollback all the edits up to the point where someone else has edited it.  Be careful using this, it can be very helpful but also very harmful.&lt;br /&gt;
:*What blocking users and IP's is, is also self explanatory.&lt;br /&gt;
:*Editing every page is another self explanatory one.&lt;br /&gt;
:*Patrolling edits is a method for keeping [[Special:Recentchanges|RC]] in check, it can be seen once a diff is clicked.  All it does is, once &amp;quot;Mark as Patrolled Edits&amp;quot; is clicked, it marks the edits as patrolled so the edit will no longer show up on [[Special:Recentchanges|RC]] when &amp;quot;Hide Patrolled&amp;quot; is marked.&lt;br /&gt;
:;When or how it should be used&lt;br /&gt;
:*Deleting pages is normally done through [[:Category:Candidates for Deletion]].  Anything with a good reason to be deleted on that page should be deleted.  The other time pages should be deleted is when someone makes a certain page and after a few edits they either blank the page or replace it with something like &amp;quot;Please delete this&amp;quot;.  They don't want to work on it, and unless it is really well made and fleshed out, just delete it.&lt;br /&gt;
:*Protecting pages has quite a few different times when it should be used.  Pages should be protected according to the author's wishes (with [[Template:Locked Page]] added to the top of the page in question), in case of conflict  (with [[Template:Temp Locked Page]] added to the top of the page in question), in case of [[Help:FAQ#What are OGL, OGC, SRD, and GNU FPL?|OGC]] published materials (with [[Template:OGL Top]] added to the top of the page in question  and [[Template:OGL Bottom]] added to the bottom), or finally if the page is a vital part of D&amp;amp;D Wiki's organization.  If it deals with D&amp;amp;D Wiki's organization it either needs to be be protected from IP edits or all non-sysop edits.  As a rule of thumb pages up to two tiers deep from the [[Main Page]] are normally locked to anyone but sysops and all the others are just protected from IP edits.  For Example [[Dungeons and Dragons]] is protected from all non-sysop edits whereas a deeper in page like [[LA 0 Races]] is only protected from IP edits.  No template has to be added to pages if thay are part of D&amp;amp;D Wiki's organization (even though some do exist like [[Template:Admin Locked Page]])&lt;br /&gt;
:*Blocking a user or IP should only be used after an IP or user vandalizes a certain page.  To block someone just click &amp;quot;block&amp;quot; (found either on [[Special:Recentchanges|RC]] or the diff in question) and fill out the corresponding form.  For a typical vandalism attack I normally block the user for two weeks.  If I'm in a bad mood from vandalism or a certain discussion, then I sometimes block them for up to a month.  No standards have been set for block lengths, so it is currently really up to you when you block the user or IP.&lt;br /&gt;
:*Editing every page on D&amp;amp;D Wiki mostly means you can now edit the [[SRD:System Reference Document|SRD]] and the [[MSRD:Modern System Reference Document|MSRD]].  Feel free to edit them if you find inaccuracies.  Also, if you want to, for lack of a better word, major in the [[SRD:System Reference Document|SRD]] (as [[User:Dmilewski|Dmilewski]] has done) or the [[MSRD:Modern System Reference Document|MSRD]] (as [[User:EldritchNumen|EldrithNumen]] has done) take a look at [[SRD Talk:System Reference Document#SRD ToDo List]] or [[MSRD Talk:Modern System Reference Document#Tasks]] to see what needs to be done within the [[SRD:System Reference Document|SRD]] or [[MSRD:Modern System Reference Document|MSRD]].  There is never enough help to get it all done, so I am sure your help would be appreciated.&lt;br /&gt;
:*Patrolling edits should, in a nutshell, be used when you have looked over an edit and fixed everything that needs to be fixed (this includes answering questions, sending MoI's, etc).  If you decide to, for a lack of better words, major in [[Special:Recentchanges|RC]] (as I have ''':)''') then marking edits as patrolled will become commonplace and extremely helpful.  Below is how to &amp;quot;major&amp;quot; in recent changes, which would be a great help to D&amp;amp;D Wiki and I.  First off load recent changes and press &amp;quot;Hide patrolled edits&amp;quot;.  Next click any diff and look at the change.  Only if you are 100% sure that the edit is okay (taking formatting standards, page-linking (using the &amp;quot;what links here?&amp;quot; function), answering questions, sending MoI's, and line spacing between comments and/or the &amp;quot;Back to&amp;quot; footer into consideration) then mark the edit as patrolled.  If the edit is not okay then all you have to do is fix the problem then mark the edit as patrolled.  It's simple, but looking over every edit on D&amp;amp;D Wiki really keeps it looking and running well.  In my opinion, it is the most vital part of D&amp;amp;D Wiki.  Even marking only 20 edits as patrolled every day would be extremely helpful with this never-ending task.&lt;br /&gt;
:I know this is really long-winded, so I'll keep the rest short.  You have more burden on youself now that you are an admin because users will be looking at you for editing help, knowledge of the standards, etc etc.  It's a bit more work, but I really hope you enjoy being an admin and I hope you decide to stay around on D&amp;amp;D Wiki for a while more to come.  Welcome to Adminship, again, as [[User:Dmilewski|Dmilewski]] once put it, you're now part of &amp;quot;The Face&amp;quot; of D&amp;amp;D Wiki.  --[[User:Green Dragon|Green Dragon]] 01:32, 23 January 2008 (MST)&lt;br /&gt;
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::Whew, much to work on.  Thank you, I'll hold the title with honor and oven mitts (honorable oven mitts). -- [[User:Eiji|Eiji]] 16:45, 23 January 2008 (MST)&lt;br /&gt;
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:::''':)'''.  --[[User:Green Dragon|Green Dragon]] 22:47, 23 January 2008 (MST)&lt;br /&gt;
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== User Page ==&lt;br /&gt;
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Nice user page.  I'm flattered.  BTW, I went digging through the &amp;lt;span class=&amp;quot;plainlinks&amp;quot;&amp;gt;[http://www.dandwiki.com/w/index.php?title=Special:Log&amp;amp;user=Eiji logs]&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt; and found the date you created your username on the wiki, and inserted the date in your page. —[[User:Sledged|Sledged]] ([[User talk:Sledged|talk]]) 16:08, 7 December 2007 (MST)&lt;br /&gt;
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:Domo arigato Mr. Sledgedboto. -- [[User:Eiji|Eiji]] 22:20, 7 December 2007 (MST)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Happy Bunny Picture ==&lt;br /&gt;
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:''Discussion moved to [[Talk:Happy Bunny (DnD Creature)#Picture]]&amp;lt;small&amp;gt;The discussion was related to the happy bunny, not Eiji&amp;amp;nbsp;--[[User:Green Dragon|Green Dragon]] 13:24, 24 December 2007 (MST)&amp;lt;/small&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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== DBZ Conversion ==&lt;br /&gt;
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good luck with the state alchemist into D&amp;amp;D format, also very nice conversion of DBZ moves into D&amp;amp;D attacks.  {{Unsigned|Archangel|18:36, 10 February 2008 (MST)}}&lt;br /&gt;
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:Why thank you.  Eventually I'll work up that Superhuman/Super Saiyan prestige class at well.  I'm thinking epic. -- [[User:Eiji|Eiji]] 20:06, 10 February 2008 (MST)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Moving ==&lt;br /&gt;
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Trouble in the lands of reality, I have been and may still be only half here while I handle some terrible RL troubles.  I shall return in full, I promise.  -- [[User:Eiji|Eiji]] 14:55, 25 March 2008 (MDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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:Sounds good ''':)'''.  Thanks for keeping us updated.  --[[User:Green Dragon|Green Dragon]] 01:30, 26 March 2008 (MDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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::Alright, I'm back, mostly.  Time to ease back into posting flow. -- [[User:Eiji|Eiji]] 22:38, 10 April 2008 (MDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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==Thanks==&lt;br /&gt;
I never thanked you, You kinda helped get into the flow of this site, so i wanted to thank you for all your help.[[User:Summerscythe|Summerscythe]] 15:17, 29 May 2008 (MDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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:Awww, it's no problem.  Why, thank you.  ''':D'''  I hear you're trying to get the tavern hopping again (I'm in now actually, it's populated!) so I hope to see you in there soon. -- [[User:Eiji|Eiji]] 21:31, 29 May 2008 (MDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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== D&amp;amp;D Game ==&lt;br /&gt;
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Sorry, I alway played 2nd edition and im a little confused about how to do my char. Im not sure also if my characters concept suit you. Anyway if you could help me a little i would appreciate. With all grace to the mighty Eiji--[[User:Lord Dhazriel|Lord Dhazriel]] 23:52, 7 June 2008 (MDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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:Ah ha ha.  I'm not that great, but thank you.  Now, I will claim complete ignorance on 2e (I started in 3.5e) but I'll try to help where I can.  Unfortunately, where do I start?  The only major changes I can recall off hand is THAC0 turning into AC, weapon size changes, and spell changes.  There's more I'm sure of course, where do I start?&lt;br /&gt;
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:Anyway, hit me with your concept.  ''':D''' -- [[User:Eiji|Eiji]] 16:35, 8 June 2008 (MDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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:: You can find them on my [[User:Lord Dhazriel#Characters Concepts|user page]], by the way when the game begin.--[[User:Lord Dhazriel|Lord Dhazriel]] 17:23, 8 June 2008 (MDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Plushies!!! ==&lt;br /&gt;
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Hey dude can I post some racial feats I made for plushies?--[[User:Risek|Risek]] 12:54, 11 June 2008 (MDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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:Go for it.  ''':)''' -- [[User:Eiji|Eiji]] 16:33, 11 June 2008 (MDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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::Ok--[[User:Risek|Risek]] 21:51, 11 June 2008 (MDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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== EIJI!!!!!!!!!!!! ==&lt;br /&gt;
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Go to the tavern {{Unsigned|Risek}}&lt;br /&gt;
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:And again! --[[User:Daniel Draco|Daniel Draco]] 20:38, 24 November 2008 (MST)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Live Forever ==&lt;br /&gt;
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&amp;quot;Must convert self into D&amp;amp;D form, and live forever!&amp;quot;&lt;br /&gt;
lol watch out for inevitables XD --[[User:Jack Bread|Jack Bread]] 23:45, 20 July 2008 (MDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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== I had a question ==&lt;br /&gt;
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The Spell you made, Ell's Handy Homunculus, is awesome, but me and my roomie were wondering if a Plushie spellcaster (btw Plushies are my new favorite race) can make one and how, as they possess no blood of their own. Just a question.- Tripp Thorne&lt;br /&gt;
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:Thank you kindly.  You most certainly can use it.  Plushie blood is stuffing, so you can use that to supplement for the blood component.&lt;br /&gt;
:(That's crazy!  I have blood!  It's right inside this sack of meat here!)&lt;br /&gt;
:Eiji Plushie, what are you doing, I'm not a sack of mEAATAAAGAGHJHFJOHHWFJHKJAWHjk3rjafsf&lt;br /&gt;
:...-- [[User:Eiji|Eiji]] 15:17, 20 August 2008 (MDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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::Another quick question: Is it cool if I post some Plushy Feats I've been working on? - Tripp Thorne&lt;br /&gt;
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:::Go for it! -- [[User:Eiji|Eiji]] 09:27, 22 August 2008 (MDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Question: Bladed Fan ==&lt;br /&gt;
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My question concerns this: ''&amp;quot;Larger or smaller fans create larger or smaller effects. It is the maximum amount of damage your fan is capable of down one '''size category'''. (A Large fan, dealing 1d6 damage, creates a 5 mph wind every +1, and a Small fan, dealing 1d3, does 2 mph).&amp;quot;''&lt;br /&gt;
Is that simply supposed to be the maximum damage of the weapon -1? I ask because &amp;quot;5&amp;quot; isn't a maximum damage of any weapon at any size category. I also ask because gargantuan and colossal fans get out of hand pretty quickly (2d6 gargantuan would produce 11mph per point of strength bonus, producing tornado winds with only a strength modifier of +16. And a colossal version would be even easier to produce tornado winds with (strength modifier +11; keeping even gargantuan and colossal creatures checked).&lt;br /&gt;
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And, lastly, does the full round action provoke attacks of opportunity? --Nox_Noctis&lt;br /&gt;
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:Good catch there, looks like I mixed up some of the old text with the new text when I had it based on a different system, and ended up making it even more confusing.  It happens, and now its fixed, making it difficult to use, and provoking AoOs to prevent abuses from very strong PCs with huge Str scores and huger fans.  I've made the alterations and clarifications needed.  -- [[User:Eiji|Eiji]] 00:15, 26 August 2008 (MDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Question: Kopiko Draw Spell-like Ability ==&lt;br /&gt;
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How is the Will (''save''; word left out in the race entry) DC determined? Which ability modifier does it use? --Nox_Noctis&lt;br /&gt;
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:Default is always 10 + 1/2 HD + [[Cha]], btu I'll go clarify that now. -- [[User:Eiji|Eiji]] 13:55, 26 August 2008 (MDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Question about the Domain Time Warp ==&lt;br /&gt;
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Hello, my name is Santiago Mendez, my user name is Sarrow. I was wondering if I could use your cleric domain Time Warp for a Deity that I am making? -[[User:Sarrow|Sarrow]] 15:35, 11 September 2008 (MDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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:By all means.  ''':D'''  Everything on the Wiki is free to use.  I'm flattered you like my work, by all means.  -- [[User:Eiji|Eiji]] 07:38, 14 September 2008 (MDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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::Yeah, the deity is Aetas, the Father of Time. -[[User:Sarrow|Sarrow]] 14:14, 14 September 2008 (MDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Nezumi ==&lt;br /&gt;
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Thanks for the info; I wasn't sure there was a nezumi so I decided to make one.--[[User:Archangel|Arael]] 17:21, 19 September 2008 (MDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Barnstar ==&lt;br /&gt;
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{{Anti-Vandal Barnstar|This one is for reverting the childish edits to the Chuck Norris page so quickly.  The page always seems to attract vandals, and Eiji was quick to get it reverted. --[[User:Aarnott|Aarnott]] 11:24, 22 July 2008 (MDT) }}&lt;br /&gt;
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== AHHHHHHH!!!! ==&lt;br /&gt;
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AHHHH! AHHHHH!!!! What am I doing?? I don't know! You wrote on my page and I wanted to write back! Eiji! I want to draw Lord Eiji for his page on the wiki at some point, if you don't mind. I realize I've committed to drawing a whole pile of things already, but I want to add that one to the list because I saw he had not picture yet and I thought it would be fun to draw. AHHHH!!!! --[[User:Lumi|Lumi]] 20:28, 25 October 2008 (MDT)Lumi&lt;br /&gt;
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:AAAAHHHH!!!!!!  AAAAAAAAHHHHHHH!!!!  OMG AAAAAHHHHH!!!!  Lord Eiji, holy crap yes, AAAHHHHH!!!!  I shall PM you pictures of his plush continence, just add wings and ears and tail, and then DELICIOUSNESS!  Go on, I dare you to SHOW ME YOUR MOVES!  YES!&lt;br /&gt;
:LUMI PAWNCH! -- [[User:Eiji|Eiji]] 21:04, 25 October 2008 (MDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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::AHHH!!!!  You dared me and I did it!  Mostly!  But you are asleep!!!!!!  NOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!  &lt;br /&gt;
::Now I have to wait until tomorrow to find out what you think! --[[User:Lumi|Lumi]] 02:27, 27 October 2008 (MDT)Lumi&lt;br /&gt;
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:::AAAAAHHHHHHH!!!!!!  King Eiji is preparing a SOLAR PLUSHIE PAWWWWWNCH!  You have won INTERNETS and LONGCATS!  TOP SCORE!!!  -- [[User:Eiji|Eiji]] 09:44, 27 October 2008 (MDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Spellborg Feat==&lt;br /&gt;
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Hey I made this in a moment of creativity. [[Improved Spellborg (DnD Feat)|Improved Spellborg]] I hope you don't mind. Tell me what you think of it. --[[User:Lord Dhazriel|Lord Dhazriel]] 13:51, 30 October 2008 (MDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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:Hmmm, interesting.  I'll look at the balance later, but the concept of expanding template powers with feats is novel. -- [[User:Eiji|Eiji]] 20:22, 30 October 2008 (MDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Sky Eye and the Clockwork subtype ==&lt;br /&gt;
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I looked at your creature entry for [[Sky Eye (DnD Creature)]] and there was no accompanying link for the clockwork subtype. Also, what does Locomotion and Observation do for a Sky Eye?&lt;br /&gt;
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:I forgot to link it, didn't I?  I do have the clockwork subtype page around here somewhere.  When I return, in a rush.&lt;br /&gt;
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:The short of it is that Locomotion and Observation are the subjects it is allowed to act &amp;quot;intelligent&amp;quot; on, using it's Cha as Int for the purposes of movement and watching things, so it won't easily be tricked by a wall in the way or by someone hiding, and it'll remember.  However, for all other subjects, say, combat, it's generic construct programming.  &amp;quot;I hit it again!&amp;quot; -- [[User:Eiji|Eiji]] 15:52, 17 November 2008 (MST)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Nomination ==&lt;br /&gt;
Hello, I've recently opened up a Request for Adminship for myself at [[Requests for Adminship/Hooper]], and as an admin yourself, would greatly appreciate your input, suggestions, thoughts, or general comments.  Thanks. &amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;lt;small&amp;gt;&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;border: 1px solid blue; -moz-border-radius:10px&amp;quot;&amp;gt;[[User:Hooper|'''&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;background-color:White; color:FireBrick; -moz-border-radius-topleft:10px; -moz-border-radius-bottomleft:10px&amp;quot;&amp;gt;  Hooper  &amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;''']][[User talk:Hooper|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;background-color:red; color:blue; -moz-border-radius-bottomleft:10px; -moz-border-radius-topleft:10px&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;amp;nbsp;talk&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]][[Special:Contributions/Hooper|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;background-color:red; color:blue&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;amp;nbsp;contribs&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]][[Special:Emailuser/Hooper|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;background-color:red; color:blue; -moz-border-radius-bottomright:10px; -moz-border-radius-topright:10px&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;amp;nbsp;email&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]]&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;&amp;lt;/small&amp;gt; 19:21, 16 December 2008 (MST)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Plushie 4e? ==&lt;br /&gt;
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Hey Eiji, I was wondering if you were planning on making plushies 4e. there would need to be some serious reworking of it but i love the idea of them. I would really like just at least the race, and the Go boom as an encounter power. [[User:Master K|Master K]] 16:51, 8 April 2009 (MDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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:As is, I am not a 4e player.  However, if someone with the know how wishes to, I give you permission to translate them into 4e mechanics.  Hee hee hee.  -- [[User:Eiji|Eiji]] 19:54, 8 April 2009 (MDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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::I am not too good at it and i will give it a try, is this an invatation to anyone or just me? [[User:Master K|Master K]] 19:58, 8 April 2009 (MDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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:::Anyone.  Know any 4e gurus?  -- [[User:Eiji|Eiji]] 21:37, 8 April 2009 (MDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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:::: [[User:Sepsis|Sepsis]] or [[User:Sam Kay|Sam Kay]], both made 4e featured article. Maybe they want to help. --[[User:Lord Dhazriel|Lord Dhazriel]] 22:18, 8 April 2009 (MDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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:::::Just so you know, [[User:Sam Kay|Sam Kay]] finished the conversion. Here it is.[[Eijilund_Plushies_(4e_Race)|Eijilund Plushies(4e Race)]][[User:Master K|Master K]] 16:16, 7 July 2009 (MDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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== AdminBadge ==&lt;br /&gt;
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I'd like to label you as an admin with the &amp;lt;s&amp;gt;&amp;lt;nowiki&amp;gt;[[Template:AdminBadge]]&amp;lt;/nowiki&amp;gt;&amp;lt;/s&amp;gt; on your user page. If you have a reason you don't think you should have the badge or you don't think the badge is a good idea, please discuss it on the badge's [[Template talk:AdminBadge|discussion]]. -[[User:Valentine the Rogue|Valentine the Rogue]] 16:06, 11 April 2009 (MDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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:Coo' with me bro. -- [[User:Eiji|Eiji]] 20:54, 11 April 2009 (MDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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==I Missz Youz==&lt;br /&gt;
Eiji... I missz youz...  --[[User:Jay Freedman|Jay Freedman]] 22:59, 28 August 2009 (MDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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:I has a fan.  :)  Well no loss, I intend to have great comedy with all my derelict pages now. -- [[User:Eiji|Eiji]] 23:07, 28 August 2009 (MDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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::Good!  I was hoping you wouldn't just up and leave.  This place needs a person like you hanging around.  Much Luvz and Kizz'z.  --[[User:Jay Freedman|Jay Freedman]] 23:12, 28 August 2009 (MDT)(I am totally just kidding about the Luvz and Kizz'z.  Ok...)&lt;br /&gt;
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:::But how will I be able to fulfill my secret fantasies about you without the luvz and kizz'z?  :O&lt;br /&gt;
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:::Wait, those aren't the ancient eldritch words for death and destruction?  Oops.  Anyway, yeah, I'm leaving links everywhere where you can find my actual stuff now. -- [[User:Eiji|Eiji]] 23:14, 28 August 2009 (MDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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::::I truly hope the above isn't a reference to any possible premeditated vandalism. &amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;lt;small&amp;gt;&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;border: 1px solid black; -moz-border-radius:10px&amp;quot;&amp;gt;[[User:Hooper|'''&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;background-color:White; color:Black; -moz-border-radius-topleft:10px; -moz-border-radius-bottomleft:10px&amp;quot;&amp;gt;  Hooper  &amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;''']][[User talk:Hooper|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;background-color:Black; color:white; -moz-border-radius-bottomleft:10px; -moz-border-radius-topleft:10px&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;amp;nbsp;talk&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]][[Special:Contributions/Hooper|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;background-color:black; color:white&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;amp;nbsp;contribs&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]][[Special:Emailuser/Hooper|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;background-color:black; color:white; -moz-border-radius-bottomright:10px; -moz-border-radius-topright:10px&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;amp;nbsp;email&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]]&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;&amp;lt;/small&amp;gt; 10:27, 29 August 2009 (MDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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:::::Look at the changes Eiji's made. Everything is still functional with an added bit of tongue-in-cheek humor. -- [[User:Jota|Jota]] 10:31, 29 August 2009 (MDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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::::::Heh, I always found the concept of self-vandalizing to be nonsensical.  It's like... self-theft.  You really CAN'T do it.  But no, this is insurance.  I do not want a repeat of Sulacu, where they decide simply to steal your name off your work.  All this stuff will be mine.  All this stuff will be workable.  However, as in reflection to the feeling of this site, I will not be terribly serious.  If you're looking for classes appropriate for Serious Business d20 Wikia is there for that.  This is now Lolcat d20.  Expect lolcats and lol wut pears and running bears having a seat over there. -- [[User:Eiji|Eiji]] 20:19, 29 August 2009 (MDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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:::::::No, this wiki is '''not''' a joke.  Treat it with respect. &amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;lt;small&amp;gt;&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;border: 1px solid black; -moz-border-radius:10px&amp;quot;&amp;gt;[[User:Hooper|'''&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;background-color:White; color:Black; -moz-border-radius-topleft:10px; -moz-border-radius-bottomleft:10px&amp;quot;&amp;gt;  Hooper  &amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;''']][[User talk:Hooper|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;background-color:Black; color:white; -moz-border-radius-bottomleft:10px; -moz-border-radius-topleft:10px&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;amp;nbsp;talk&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]][[Special:Contributions/Hooper|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;background-color:black; color:white&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;amp;nbsp;contribs&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]][[Special:Emailuser/Hooper|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;background-color:black; color:white; -moz-border-radius-bottomright:10px; -moz-border-radius-topright:10px&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;amp;nbsp;email&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]]&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;&amp;lt;/small&amp;gt; 21:29, 29 August 2009 (MDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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::::::::Why so serious?  :D  *Jokergrin*  If you have a problem with humor, that's what April Fools is there for.  You can put it on everything yourself if you want, I don't feel the need to bother.  Or, if you're telling me that joke pages are bad, may I suggest asking Green Dragon to change policy and remove the April Fools category.&lt;br /&gt;
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::::::::Just don't get banned while asking.  ;) -- [[User:Eiji|Eiji]] 21:41, 29 August 2009 (MDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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:::::::::Hooper, take a chill pill.  Its his original Shizz'nits.  I kinda like the changes too. This is not a negative thing.  Its a Luvz and Kizz'z thang'.  --[[User:Jay Freedman|Jay Freedman]] 21:56, 29 August 2009 (MDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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:When someone says ''&amp;quot;Serious Business d20 Wikia is there for that.  This is now Lolcat d20.&amp;quot;'' it is completely clear that they are belittling this wiki's place, and establishing a clear intention to make less of it - even if only through their own articles.  This is not acceptable on any level, and it is a very negative thing. &amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;lt;small&amp;gt;&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;border: 1px solid black; -moz-border-radius:10px&amp;quot;&amp;gt;[[User:Hooper|'''&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;background-color:White; color:Black; -moz-border-radius-topleft:10px; -moz-border-radius-bottomleft:10px&amp;quot;&amp;gt;  Hooper  &amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;''']][[User talk:Hooper|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;background-color:Black; color:white; -moz-border-radius-bottomleft:10px; -moz-border-radius-topleft:10px&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;amp;nbsp;talk&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]][[Special:Contributions/Hooper|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;background-color:black; color:white&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;amp;nbsp;contribs&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]][[Special:Emailuser/Hooper|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;background-color:black; color:white; -moz-border-radius-bottomright:10px; -moz-border-radius-topright:10px&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;amp;nbsp;email&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]]&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;&amp;lt;/small&amp;gt; 22:15, 29 August 2009 (MDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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:: You aren't familiar with Eiji's madness aren't you? --[[User:Lord Dhazriel|Dhazriel]] 22:21, 29 August 2009 (MDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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:::Actually, I am.  Which is why I said above that I hoped his statements wouldn't lead to vandalism, whether he is conscious of it or not.  His &amp;quot;madness&amp;quot; as you put it should not be allowed to deteriorate this wiki, even if he is a nice guy. &amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;lt;small&amp;gt;&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;border: 1px solid black; -moz-border-radius:10px&amp;quot;&amp;gt;[[User:Hooper|'''&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;background-color:White; color:Black; -moz-border-radius-topleft:10px; -moz-border-radius-bottomleft:10px&amp;quot;&amp;gt;  Hooper  &amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;''']][[User talk:Hooper|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;background-color:Black; color:white; -moz-border-radius-bottomleft:10px; -moz-border-radius-topleft:10px&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;amp;nbsp;talk&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]][[Special:Contributions/Hooper|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;background-color:black; color:white&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;amp;nbsp;contribs&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]][[Special:Emailuser/Hooper|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;background-color:black; color:white; -moz-border-radius-bottomright:10px; -moz-border-radius-topright:10px&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;amp;nbsp;email&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]]&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;&amp;lt;/small&amp;gt; 22:24, 29 August 2009 (MDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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::::I made Sheep the Head and Lord Eiji the god of gumdrops from the heavens.  That was before the Wikipocalypse.  Tell me, have I belittled the Wiki?  What of the Farmer and Cheerleader (which brings to question how to I alternative those... maybe I'll make them DEAD SERIOUS BUSINESS or something).  Those belittling too?&lt;br /&gt;
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::::I ask you this because it's important.  Technically, I have no use for my work being here anymore.  I'd like to have it deleted.  BUT I CAN'T, due to a very silly ruling.  Rather than fight the power, I'll play along and do what I can do.  One thing I can do it see what happens when I want to run my sillier games but need solid mechanics behind it.  It's called reflavoring.&lt;br /&gt;
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::::Like I said, take time out of your life to April Fools it all if it offends you so.  I don't mind, really.  Anyway, you'll still have quality posters here like Jason Bagby if you need serious business.&lt;br /&gt;
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::::... ok, that last part WAS a joke.  XD  Laugh it off.  -- [[User:Eiji|Eiji]] 22:43, 29 August 2009 (MDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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:::::Wow Hooper, I wish you had this sort of zeal back when our copyright was being violated! [[User:Surgo|Surgo]] 08:48, 30 August 2009 (MDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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::::::After closer inspection of the GNU FDL, and reading numerous legal analysis of it's relationship to wikis, I learned that the copyright wasn't being violated in any way, actually. But that is another story for another time - and one that actually surprised me. &amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;lt;small&amp;gt;&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;border: 1px solid black; -moz-border-radius:10px&amp;quot;&amp;gt;[[User:Hooper|'''&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;background-color:White; color:Black; -moz-border-radius-topleft:10px; -moz-border-radius-bottomleft:10px&amp;quot;&amp;gt;  Hooper  &amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;''']][[User talk:Hooper|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;background-color:Black; color:white; -moz-border-radius-bottomleft:10px; -moz-border-radius-topleft:10px&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;amp;nbsp;talk&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]][[Special:Contributions/Hooper|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;background-color:black; color:white&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;amp;nbsp;contribs&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]][[Special:Emailuser/Hooper|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;background-color:black; color:white; -moz-border-radius-bottomright:10px; -moz-border-radius-topright:10px&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;amp;nbsp;email&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]]&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;&amp;lt;/small&amp;gt; 08:53, 30 August 2009 (MDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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:::::::Actually, it was being violated (just because Wikipedia does it doesn't mean it's legal). Stripping off the names of the authors from the title page is explicitly not allowed. [[User:Surgo|Surgo]] 12:38, 30 August 2009 (MDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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:As long as a history exists, then that requirement of having the author's information is already met.  I don't even agree with that fully, but it is just how it is, whether we like it or not.  &amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;lt;small&amp;gt;&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;border: 1px solid black; -moz-border-radius:10px&amp;quot;&amp;gt;[[User:Hooper|'''&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;background-color:White; color:Black; -moz-border-radius-topleft:10px; -moz-border-radius-bottomleft:10px&amp;quot;&amp;gt;  Hooper  &amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;''']][[User talk:Hooper|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;background-color:Black; color:white; -moz-border-radius-bottomleft:10px; -moz-border-radius-topleft:10px&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;amp;nbsp;talk&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]][[Special:Contributions/Hooper|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;background-color:black; color:white&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;amp;nbsp;contribs&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]][[Special:Emailuser/Hooper|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;background-color:black; color:white; -moz-border-radius-bottomright:10px; -moz-border-radius-topright:10px&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;amp;nbsp;email&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]]&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;&amp;lt;/small&amp;gt; 12:46, 30 August 2009 (MDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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::Except...it's not just a requirement of &amp;quot;having the author's information&amp;quot;. The requirement is you have the author's information '''on the title page'''. Explicitly. On the title page. Not the history page (which is a separate, distinct entity under the GFDL). [[User:Surgo|Surgo]] 12:49, 30 August 2009 (MDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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:::I'm not a legal expert in this particular field, however, when it came up the other day with TK I looked into it.  Lawyer after lawyer has stated that legally speaking, the history page qualify because it is technically still the title page.  Go look it up.  Its crazy. &amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;lt;small&amp;gt;&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;border: 1px solid black; -moz-border-radius:10px&amp;quot;&amp;gt;[[User:Hooper|'''&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;background-color:White; color:Black; -moz-border-radius-topleft:10px; -moz-border-radius-bottomleft:10px&amp;quot;&amp;gt;  Hooper  &amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;''']][[User talk:Hooper|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;background-color:Black; color:white; -moz-border-radius-bottomleft:10px; -moz-border-radius-topleft:10px&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;amp;nbsp;talk&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]][[Special:Contributions/Hooper|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;background-color:black; color:white&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;amp;nbsp;contribs&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]][[Special:Emailuser/Hooper|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;background-color:black; color:white; -moz-border-radius-bottomright:10px; -moz-border-radius-topright:10px&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;amp;nbsp;email&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]]&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;&amp;lt;/small&amp;gt; 12:54, 30 August 2009 (MDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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::::Lawyer after lawyer? I'm quite interested in seeing that. Where are these lawyers who have claimed this? If that's the case (actual J.D.s saying this), I'll stop my complaints. [[User:Surgo|Surgo]] 12:57, 30 August 2009 (MDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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:::::When I started looking it up after TK brought it up, I first read the GNU site, then the GNU pages on wikipedia and their talk pages, and it just kind of spearheads you into a spiral of legal talk after legal talk with links to accompany it.  When you have some time look at it, some of it is insane. &amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;lt;small&amp;gt;&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;border: 1px solid black; -moz-border-radius:10px&amp;quot;&amp;gt;[[User:Hooper|'''&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;background-color:White; color:Black; -moz-border-radius-topleft:10px; -moz-border-radius-bottomleft:10px&amp;quot;&amp;gt;  Hooper  &amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;''']][[User talk:Hooper|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;background-color:Black; color:white; -moz-border-radius-bottomleft:10px; -moz-border-radius-topleft:10px&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;amp;nbsp;talk&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]][[Special:Contributions/Hooper|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;background-color:black; color:white&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;amp;nbsp;contribs&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]][[Special:Emailuser/Hooper|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;background-color:black; color:white; -moz-border-radius-bottomright:10px; -moz-border-radius-topright:10px&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;amp;nbsp;email&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]]&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;&amp;lt;/small&amp;gt; 13:22, 30 August 2009 (MDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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::::::Yeah, and...do any of them actually hold JDs? [[User:Surgo|Surgo]] 13:32, 30 August 2009 (MDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Saiyans ==&lt;br /&gt;
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Hey Eiji, My name is James and I found D&amp;amp;D Wiki, and your page by yahoo search while looking for a D&amp;amp;D Saiyan Race. Ive been working on my own version for some time, and after reading what you came up with, Id very much like to be able to have a conversation at length with you over messenger and show you what Ive got so far and see what you think about it and maybe get some feedback. I'll check back here to see what you have to say. I look forward to hearing from you soon!&lt;br /&gt;
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:Yo James!  I'm glad I inspired you.  You don't really need my permission or anything, especially since I am no longer technically active on this site (we have moved to here- [http://dungeons.wikia.com/wiki/Dungeons_and_Dragons_Wiki] over some foolish highschool drama.  You can read Green Dragon's page to see the story, personally I have a bit of a problem getting kicked in the nuts for something unrelated to me.  But that's a story for another time, about those saiyans... by all means feel free to chat it up, especially since all my material here is being altered.  Don't worry though, the original Saiyans remains intact on the Wikia, and it will be some time before I reach the saiyans.  :)  I have a lot of articles and a lot of work here, too much simply for it to go to waste.  Don't forget to sign your posts through dude, it's &amp;quot;~ ~ ~ ~&amp;quot; at the end of your post, minus spaces.&lt;br /&gt;
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:I'll be around! -- [[User:Eiji|Eiji]] 09:09, 30 August 2009 (MDT)&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
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==Welcome to D&amp;amp;D Wiki==&lt;br /&gt;
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Hello Eiji, and on behalf of [[User:Green Dragon|Green Dragon]], welcome to D&amp;amp;D Wiki! Thank you for your contributions. We hope you like D&amp;amp;D Wiki and decide to stay. [[User:Green Dragon|Green Dragon]] is the owner of the site (though he's unavailable right now), and if you have a question feel free to ask me in his absence, however when contacting anyone on D&amp;amp;D Wiki through talk pages please sign your name using four tildes &amp;lt;nowiki&amp;gt;(~~~~)&amp;lt;/nowiki&amp;gt;; this will automatically produce your name and the date.  Also, if you want to help D&amp;amp;D Wiki but just don't know how  [http://www.dandwiki.com/wiki/index.php?title=User_talk:Sledged&amp;amp;action=edit&amp;amp;section=new drop me a note] and I'll see what I can do.  (Alternatively, you can [http://www.dandwiki.com/wiki/index.php?title=User_talk:Green_Dragon&amp;amp;action=edit&amp;amp;section=new leave a message on Green Dragon's talk page].  I and a few others keep tabs on the discussions going on there.)  However, when leaving a note please indicate how much time you would like to spend working, how well you know the Wiki Format, and how well you know D&amp;amp;D.  I hope you enjoy editing here and being a D&amp;amp;D Wikian! If you need help ask me on my talk page, [[User:Green Dragon|Green Dragon]]'s talk page, or just right here.  Again, welcome!  —[[User:Sledged|Sledged]] ([[User talk:Sledged|talk]]) 12:41, 2 July 2007 (MDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Nomination for Adminship ==&lt;br /&gt;
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Hey!  I just [[Requests for Adminship/Eiji|nominated you for adminship]].  I hope you make it ''':)'''.  However, you really should fill out the &amp;quot;Candidates Prelude&amp;quot; information on that page and you should probably also make a user page (since so many things are linking to it right now, like the main page, etc, and it looks unprofessional to not have one ''':)''').  Again, hope you make it ''':)'''.  --[[User:Green Dragon|Green Dragon]] 16:32, 27 November 2007 (MST)&lt;br /&gt;
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:Sadly you did not make adminship...  Maybe next time ''':)'''.  --[[User:Green Dragon|Green Dragon]] 22:54, 4 December 2007 (MST)&lt;br /&gt;
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::@-@  The things that happen when I vanish for a week.  Come and gone before I even knew.... &lt;br /&gt;
::Well, I suppose it doesn't matter.  I still need to get a handle on things (and more time, what with Xmas season working at KB Toy does not let you rest).  I do have one question though, how do I make a user page? -- [[User:Eiji|Eiji]] 00:03, 5 December 2007 (MST)&lt;br /&gt;
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:::Follow the red link in your signature (or the red &amp;quot;user page&amp;quot; link at the top of this page), fill in whatever info you'd like to give about yourself, and hit &amp;quot;save page.&amp;quot;  —[[User:Sledged|Sledged]] ([[User talk:Sledged|talk]]) 02:33, 5 December 2007 (MST)&lt;br /&gt;
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::::I think we should re-nominate you Eiji, for the reason that I stated [[Requests for Adminship/Eiji|here]]. --[[User:Sam Kay|Sam Kay]] 11:28, 5 December 2007 (MST)&lt;br /&gt;
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:::::Maybe after Christmas would be a better time, seeing that Eiji works at a toy shop (right?) and I do not think it would be the best idea to re-nominate someone within the same month...  Although a re-nomination does seem like a good idea.  --[[User:Green Dragon|Green Dragon]] 14:57, 5 December 2007 (MST)&lt;br /&gt;
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::::::Yeah, I agree. --[[User:Sam Kay|Sam Kay]] 08:19, 6 December 2007 (MST)&lt;br /&gt;
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:::::::I agree too, whew.  Well, user page is up, have a look-see! -- [[User:Eiji|Eiji]] 22:41, 6 December 2007 (MST)&lt;br /&gt;
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::::::::Good luck for January! --[[User:Sir Milo Teabag|Sir Milo Teabag]] 12:03, 8 December 2007 (MST)&lt;br /&gt;
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:::::::::Also, I am sure [[User:Sledged|Sledged]] would be proud of how your user page looks ''':P'''.  --[[User:Green Dragon|Green Dragon]] 21:29, 9 December 2007 (MST)&lt;br /&gt;
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::::::::::So, you still want to go for it?  It is January now ''':P'''...  --[[User:Green Dragon|Green Dragon]] 12:35, 15 January 2008 (MST)&lt;br /&gt;
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:::::::::::Let's do it! -- [[User:Eiji|Eiji]] 13:21, 15 January 2008 (MST)&lt;br /&gt;
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::::::::::::[[Requests for Adminship/Eiji]]  --[[User:Green Dragon|Green Dragon]] 13:44, 15 January 2008 (MST)&lt;br /&gt;
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:::::::::::::And, it has ended.  --[[User:Green Dragon|Green Dragon]] 01:32, 23 January 2008 (MST)&lt;br /&gt;
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:Welcome to Adminship.  You are now, as [[User:Dmilewski|Dmilewski]] once put it, part of &amp;quot;The Face&amp;quot; of D&amp;amp;D Wiki.  Honestly, as you will notice, not much has been changed now that you are an admin.  If anything, I would say more burden is placed on you.  But first, for the the new features and there uses.  You can now delete pages, protect pages, rollback edits, block users and IP's, edit every page, patrol edits, and do a couple more minor things.&lt;br /&gt;
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:*What deleting pages is, is self explanatory.&lt;br /&gt;
:*What protecting pages is, is also pretty self explanatory.&lt;br /&gt;
:*Rolling back edits is a method for removing spam.  It is more powerful than the conventional method of undoing edits.  Instead of showing a diff of the edit in question once clicked, it instantly rollsback all the edits by the user or IP in question on a certain page.  For example if I edited my user page and you clicked &amp;quot;rollback&amp;quot; on that edit it would rollback all the edits up to the point where someone else has edited it.  Be careful using this, it can be very helpful but also very harmful.&lt;br /&gt;
:*What blocking users and IP's is, is also self explanatory.&lt;br /&gt;
:*Editing every page is another self explanatory one.&lt;br /&gt;
:*Patrolling edits is a method for keeping [[Special:Recentchanges|RC]] in check, it can be seen once a diff is clicked.  All it does is, once &amp;quot;Mark as Patrolled Edits&amp;quot; is clicked, it marks the edits as patrolled so the edit will no longer show up on [[Special:Recentchanges|RC]] when &amp;quot;Hide Patrolled&amp;quot; is marked.&lt;br /&gt;
:;When or how it should be used&lt;br /&gt;
:*Deleting pages is normally done through [[:Category:Candidates for Deletion]].  Anything with a good reason to be deleted on that page should be deleted.  The other time pages should be deleted is when someone makes a certain page and after a few edits they either blank the page or replace it with something like &amp;quot;Please delete this&amp;quot;.  They don't want to work on it, and unless it is really well made and fleshed out, just delete it.&lt;br /&gt;
:*Protecting pages has quite a few different times when it should be used.  Pages should be protected according to the author's wishes (with [[Template:Locked Page]] added to the top of the page in question), in case of conflict  (with [[Template:Temp Locked Page]] added to the top of the page in question), in case of [[Help:FAQ#What are OGL, OGC, SRD, and GNU FPL?|OGC]] published materials (with [[Template:OGL Top]] added to the top of the page in question  and [[Template:OGL Bottom]] added to the bottom), or finally if the page is a vital part of D&amp;amp;D Wiki's organization.  If it deals with D&amp;amp;D Wiki's organization it either needs to be be protected from IP edits or all non-sysop edits.  As a rule of thumb pages up to two tiers deep from the [[Main Page]] are normally locked to anyone but sysops and all the others are just protected from IP edits.  For Example [[Dungeons and Dragons]] is protected from all non-sysop edits whereas a deeper in page like [[LA 0 Races]] is only protected from IP edits.  No template has to be added to pages if thay are part of D&amp;amp;D Wiki's organization (even though some do exist like [[Template:Admin Locked Page]])&lt;br /&gt;
:*Blocking a user or IP should only be used after an IP or user vandalizes a certain page.  To block someone just click &amp;quot;block&amp;quot; (found either on [[Special:Recentchanges|RC]] or the diff in question) and fill out the corresponding form.  For a typical vandalism attack I normally block the user for two weeks.  If I'm in a bad mood from vandalism or a certain discussion, then I sometimes block them for up to a month.  No standards have been set for block lengths, so it is currently really up to you when you block the user or IP.&lt;br /&gt;
:*Editing every page on D&amp;amp;D Wiki mostly means you can now edit the [[SRD:System Reference Document|SRD]] and the [[MSRD:Modern System Reference Document|MSRD]].  Feel free to edit them if you find inaccuracies.  Also, if you want to, for lack of a better word, major in the [[SRD:System Reference Document|SRD]] (as [[User:Dmilewski|Dmilewski]] has done) or the [[MSRD:Modern System Reference Document|MSRD]] (as [[User:EldritchNumen|EldrithNumen]] has done) take a look at [[SRD Talk:System Reference Document#SRD ToDo List]] or [[MSRD Talk:Modern System Reference Document#Tasks]] to see what needs to be done within the [[SRD:System Reference Document|SRD]] or [[MSRD:Modern System Reference Document|MSRD]].  There is never enough help to get it all done, so I am sure your help would be appreciated.&lt;br /&gt;
:*Patrolling edits should, in a nutshell, be used when you have looked over an edit and fixed everything that needs to be fixed (this includes answering questions, sending MoI's, etc).  If you decide to, for a lack of better words, major in [[Special:Recentchanges|RC]] (as I have ''':)''') then marking edits as patrolled will become commonplace and extremely helpful.  Below is how to &amp;quot;major&amp;quot; in recent changes, which would be a great help to D&amp;amp;D Wiki and I.  First off load recent changes and press &amp;quot;Hide patrolled edits&amp;quot;.  Next click any diff and look at the change.  Only if you are 100% sure that the edit is okay (taking formatting standards, page-linking (using the &amp;quot;what links here?&amp;quot; function), answering questions, sending MoI's, and line spacing between comments and/or the &amp;quot;Back to&amp;quot; footer into consideration) then mark the edit as patrolled.  If the edit is not okay then all you have to do is fix the problem then mark the edit as patrolled.  It's simple, but looking over every edit on D&amp;amp;D Wiki really keeps it looking and running well.  In my opinion, it is the most vital part of D&amp;amp;D Wiki.  Even marking only 20 edits as patrolled every day would be extremely helpful with this never-ending task.&lt;br /&gt;
:I know this is really long-winded, so I'll keep the rest short.  You have more burden on youself now that you are an admin because users will be looking at you for editing help, knowledge of the standards, etc etc.  It's a bit more work, but I really hope you enjoy being an admin and I hope you decide to stay around on D&amp;amp;D Wiki for a while more to come.  Welcome to Adminship, again, as [[User:Dmilewski|Dmilewski]] once put it, you're now part of &amp;quot;The Face&amp;quot; of D&amp;amp;D Wiki.  --[[User:Green Dragon|Green Dragon]] 01:32, 23 January 2008 (MST)&lt;br /&gt;
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::Whew, much to work on.  Thank you, I'll hold the title with honor and oven mitts (honorable oven mitts). -- [[User:Eiji|Eiji]] 16:45, 23 January 2008 (MST)&lt;br /&gt;
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:::''':)'''.  --[[User:Green Dragon|Green Dragon]] 22:47, 23 January 2008 (MST)&lt;br /&gt;
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== User Page ==&lt;br /&gt;
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Nice user page.  I'm flattered.  BTW, I went digging through the &amp;lt;span class=&amp;quot;plainlinks&amp;quot;&amp;gt;[http://www.dandwiki.com/w/index.php?title=Special:Log&amp;amp;user=Eiji logs]&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt; and found the date you created your username on the wiki, and inserted the date in your page. —[[User:Sledged|Sledged]] ([[User talk:Sledged|talk]]) 16:08, 7 December 2007 (MST)&lt;br /&gt;
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:Domo arigato Mr. Sledgedboto. -- [[User:Eiji|Eiji]] 22:20, 7 December 2007 (MST)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Happy Bunny Picture ==&lt;br /&gt;
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:''Discussion moved to [[Talk:Happy Bunny (DnD Creature)#Picture]]&amp;lt;small&amp;gt;The discussion was related to the happy bunny, not Eiji&amp;amp;nbsp;--[[User:Green Dragon|Green Dragon]] 13:24, 24 December 2007 (MST)&amp;lt;/small&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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== DBZ Conversion ==&lt;br /&gt;
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good luck with the state alchemist into D&amp;amp;D format, also very nice conversion of DBZ moves into D&amp;amp;D attacks.  {{Unsigned|Archangel|18:36, 10 February 2008 (MST)}}&lt;br /&gt;
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:Why thank you.  Eventually I'll work up that Superhuman/Super Saiyan prestige class at well.  I'm thinking epic. -- [[User:Eiji|Eiji]] 20:06, 10 February 2008 (MST)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Moving ==&lt;br /&gt;
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Trouble in the lands of reality, I have been and may still be only half here while I handle some terrible RL troubles.  I shall return in full, I promise.  -- [[User:Eiji|Eiji]] 14:55, 25 March 2008 (MDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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:Sounds good ''':)'''.  Thanks for keeping us updated.  --[[User:Green Dragon|Green Dragon]] 01:30, 26 March 2008 (MDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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::Alright, I'm back, mostly.  Time to ease back into posting flow. -- [[User:Eiji|Eiji]] 22:38, 10 April 2008 (MDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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==Thanks==&lt;br /&gt;
I never thanked you, You kinda helped get into the flow of this site, so i wanted to thank you for all your help.[[User:Summerscythe|Summerscythe]] 15:17, 29 May 2008 (MDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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:Awww, it's no problem.  Why, thank you.  ''':D'''  I hear you're trying to get the tavern hopping again (I'm in now actually, it's populated!) so I hope to see you in there soon. -- [[User:Eiji|Eiji]] 21:31, 29 May 2008 (MDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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== D&amp;amp;D Game ==&lt;br /&gt;
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Sorry, I alway played 2nd edition and im a little confused about how to do my char. Im not sure also if my characters concept suit you. Anyway if you could help me a little i would appreciate. With all grace to the mighty Eiji--[[User:Lord Dhazriel|Lord Dhazriel]] 23:52, 7 June 2008 (MDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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:Ah ha ha.  I'm not that great, but thank you.  Now, I will claim complete ignorance on 2e (I started in 3.5e) but I'll try to help where I can.  Unfortunately, where do I start?  The only major changes I can recall off hand is THAC0 turning into AC, weapon size changes, and spell changes.  There's more I'm sure of course, where do I start?&lt;br /&gt;
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:Anyway, hit me with your concept.  ''':D''' -- [[User:Eiji|Eiji]] 16:35, 8 June 2008 (MDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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:: You can find them on my [[User:Lord Dhazriel#Characters Concepts|user page]], by the way when the game begin.--[[User:Lord Dhazriel|Lord Dhazriel]] 17:23, 8 June 2008 (MDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Plushies!!! ==&lt;br /&gt;
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Hey dude can I post some racial feats I made for plushies?--[[User:Risek|Risek]] 12:54, 11 June 2008 (MDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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:Go for it.  ''':)''' -- [[User:Eiji|Eiji]] 16:33, 11 June 2008 (MDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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::Ok--[[User:Risek|Risek]] 21:51, 11 June 2008 (MDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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== EIJI!!!!!!!!!!!! ==&lt;br /&gt;
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Go to the tavern {{Unsigned|Risek}}&lt;br /&gt;
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:And again! --[[User:Daniel Draco|Daniel Draco]] 20:38, 24 November 2008 (MST)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Live Forever ==&lt;br /&gt;
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&amp;quot;Must convert self into D&amp;amp;D form, and live forever!&amp;quot;&lt;br /&gt;
lol watch out for inevitables XD --[[User:Jack Bread|Jack Bread]] 23:45, 20 July 2008 (MDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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== I had a question ==&lt;br /&gt;
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The Spell you made, Ell's Handy Homunculus, is awesome, but me and my roomie were wondering if a Plushie spellcaster (btw Plushies are my new favorite race) can make one and how, as they possess no blood of their own. Just a question.- Tripp Thorne&lt;br /&gt;
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:Thank you kindly.  You most certainly can use it.  Plushie blood is stuffing, so you can use that to supplement for the blood component.&lt;br /&gt;
:(That's crazy!  I have blood!  It's right inside this sack of meat here!)&lt;br /&gt;
:Eiji Plushie, what are you doing, I'm not a sack of mEAATAAAGAGHJHFJOHHWFJHKJAWHjk3rjafsf&lt;br /&gt;
:...-- [[User:Eiji|Eiji]] 15:17, 20 August 2008 (MDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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::Another quick question: Is it cool if I post some Plushy Feats I've been working on? - Tripp Thorne&lt;br /&gt;
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:::Go for it! -- [[User:Eiji|Eiji]] 09:27, 22 August 2008 (MDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Question: Bladed Fan ==&lt;br /&gt;
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My question concerns this: ''&amp;quot;Larger or smaller fans create larger or smaller effects. It is the maximum amount of damage your fan is capable of down one '''size category'''. (A Large fan, dealing 1d6 damage, creates a 5 mph wind every +1, and a Small fan, dealing 1d3, does 2 mph).&amp;quot;''&lt;br /&gt;
Is that simply supposed to be the maximum damage of the weapon -1? I ask because &amp;quot;5&amp;quot; isn't a maximum damage of any weapon at any size category. I also ask because gargantuan and colossal fans get out of hand pretty quickly (2d6 gargantuan would produce 11mph per point of strength bonus, producing tornado winds with only a strength modifier of +16. And a colossal version would be even easier to produce tornado winds with (strength modifier +11; keeping even gargantuan and colossal creatures checked).&lt;br /&gt;
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And, lastly, does the full round action provoke attacks of opportunity? --Nox_Noctis&lt;br /&gt;
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:Good catch there, looks like I mixed up some of the old text with the new text when I had it based on a different system, and ended up making it even more confusing.  It happens, and now its fixed, making it difficult to use, and provoking AoOs to prevent abuses from very strong PCs with huge Str scores and huger fans.  I've made the alterations and clarifications needed.  -- [[User:Eiji|Eiji]] 00:15, 26 August 2008 (MDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Question: Kopiko Draw Spell-like Ability ==&lt;br /&gt;
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How is the Will (''save''; word left out in the race entry) DC determined? Which ability modifier does it use? --Nox_Noctis&lt;br /&gt;
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:Default is always 10 + 1/2 HD + [[Cha]], btu I'll go clarify that now. -- [[User:Eiji|Eiji]] 13:55, 26 August 2008 (MDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Question about the Domain Time Warp ==&lt;br /&gt;
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Hello, my name is Santiago Mendez, my user name is Sarrow. I was wondering if I could use your cleric domain Time Warp for a Deity that I am making? -[[User:Sarrow|Sarrow]] 15:35, 11 September 2008 (MDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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:By all means.  ''':D'''  Everything on the Wiki is free to use.  I'm flattered you like my work, by all means.  -- [[User:Eiji|Eiji]] 07:38, 14 September 2008 (MDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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::Yeah, the deity is Aetas, the Father of Time. -[[User:Sarrow|Sarrow]] 14:14, 14 September 2008 (MDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Nezumi ==&lt;br /&gt;
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Thanks for the info; I wasn't sure there was a nezumi so I decided to make one.--[[User:Archangel|Arael]] 17:21, 19 September 2008 (MDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Barnstar ==&lt;br /&gt;
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{{Anti-Vandal Barnstar|This one is for reverting the childish edits to the Chuck Norris page so quickly.  The page always seems to attract vandals, and Eiji was quick to get it reverted. --[[User:Aarnott|Aarnott]] 11:24, 22 July 2008 (MDT) }}&lt;br /&gt;
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== AHHHHHHH!!!! ==&lt;br /&gt;
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AHHHH! AHHHHH!!!! What am I doing?? I don't know! You wrote on my page and I wanted to write back! Eiji! I want to draw Lord Eiji for his page on the wiki at some point, if you don't mind. I realize I've committed to drawing a whole pile of things already, but I want to add that one to the list because I saw he had not picture yet and I thought it would be fun to draw. AHHHH!!!! --[[User:Lumi|Lumi]] 20:28, 25 October 2008 (MDT)Lumi&lt;br /&gt;
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:AAAAHHHH!!!!!!  AAAAAAAAHHHHHHH!!!!  OMG AAAAAHHHHH!!!!  Lord Eiji, holy crap yes, AAAHHHHH!!!!  I shall PM you pictures of his plush continence, just add wings and ears and tail, and then DELICIOUSNESS!  Go on, I dare you to SHOW ME YOUR MOVES!  YES!&lt;br /&gt;
:LUMI PAWNCH! -- [[User:Eiji|Eiji]] 21:04, 25 October 2008 (MDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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::AHHH!!!!  You dared me and I did it!  Mostly!  But you are asleep!!!!!!  NOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!  &lt;br /&gt;
::Now I have to wait until tomorrow to find out what you think! --[[User:Lumi|Lumi]] 02:27, 27 October 2008 (MDT)Lumi&lt;br /&gt;
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:::AAAAAHHHHHHH!!!!!!  King Eiji is preparing a SOLAR PLUSHIE PAWWWWWNCH!  You have won INTERNETS and LONGCATS!  TOP SCORE!!!  -- [[User:Eiji|Eiji]] 09:44, 27 October 2008 (MDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Spellborg Feat==&lt;br /&gt;
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Hey I made this in a moment of creativity. [[Improved Spellborg (DnD Feat)|Improved Spellborg]] I hope you don't mind. Tell me what you think of it. --[[User:Lord Dhazriel|Lord Dhazriel]] 13:51, 30 October 2008 (MDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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:Hmmm, interesting.  I'll look at the balance later, but the concept of expanding template powers with feats is novel. -- [[User:Eiji|Eiji]] 20:22, 30 October 2008 (MDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Sky Eye and the Clockwork subtype ==&lt;br /&gt;
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I looked at your creature entry for [[Sky Eye (DnD Creature)]] and there was no accompanying link for the clockwork subtype. Also, what does Locomotion and Observation do for a Sky Eye?&lt;br /&gt;
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:I forgot to link it, didn't I?  I do have the clockwork subtype page around here somewhere.  When I return, in a rush.&lt;br /&gt;
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:The short of it is that Locomotion and Observation are the subjects it is allowed to act &amp;quot;intelligent&amp;quot; on, using it's Cha as Int for the purposes of movement and watching things, so it won't easily be tricked by a wall in the way or by someone hiding, and it'll remember.  However, for all other subjects, say, combat, it's generic construct programming.  &amp;quot;I hit it again!&amp;quot; -- [[User:Eiji|Eiji]] 15:52, 17 November 2008 (MST)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Nomination ==&lt;br /&gt;
Hello, I've recently opened up a Request for Adminship for myself at [[Requests for Adminship/Hooper]], and as an admin yourself, would greatly appreciate your input, suggestions, thoughts, or general comments.  Thanks. &amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;lt;small&amp;gt;&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;border: 1px solid blue; -moz-border-radius:10px&amp;quot;&amp;gt;[[User:Hooper|'''&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;background-color:White; color:FireBrick; -moz-border-radius-topleft:10px; -moz-border-radius-bottomleft:10px&amp;quot;&amp;gt;  Hooper  &amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;''']][[User talk:Hooper|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;background-color:red; color:blue; -moz-border-radius-bottomleft:10px; -moz-border-radius-topleft:10px&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;amp;nbsp;talk&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]][[Special:Contributions/Hooper|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;background-color:red; color:blue&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;amp;nbsp;contribs&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]][[Special:Emailuser/Hooper|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;background-color:red; color:blue; -moz-border-radius-bottomright:10px; -moz-border-radius-topright:10px&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;amp;nbsp;email&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]]&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;&amp;lt;/small&amp;gt; 19:21, 16 December 2008 (MST)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Plushie 4e? ==&lt;br /&gt;
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Hey Eiji, I was wondering if you were planning on making plushies 4e. there would need to be some serious reworking of it but i love the idea of them. I would really like just at least the race, and the Go boom as an encounter power. [[User:Master K|Master K]] 16:51, 8 April 2009 (MDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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:As is, I am not a 4e player.  However, if someone with the know how wishes to, I give you permission to translate them into 4e mechanics.  Hee hee hee.  -- [[User:Eiji|Eiji]] 19:54, 8 April 2009 (MDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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::I am not too good at it and i will give it a try, is this an invatation to anyone or just me? [[User:Master K|Master K]] 19:58, 8 April 2009 (MDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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:::Anyone.  Know any 4e gurus?  -- [[User:Eiji|Eiji]] 21:37, 8 April 2009 (MDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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:::: [[User:Sepsis|Sepsis]] or [[User:Sam Kay|Sam Kay]], both made 4e featured article. Maybe they want to help. --[[User:Lord Dhazriel|Lord Dhazriel]] 22:18, 8 April 2009 (MDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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:::::Just so you know, [[User:Sam Kay|Sam Kay]] finished the conversion. Here it is.[[Eijilund_Plushies_(4e_Race)|Eijilund Plushies(4e Race)]][[User:Master K|Master K]] 16:16, 7 July 2009 (MDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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I'd like to label you as an admin with the &amp;lt;s&amp;gt;&amp;lt;nowiki&amp;gt;[[Template:AdminBadge]]&amp;lt;/nowiki&amp;gt;&amp;lt;/s&amp;gt; on your user page. If you have a reason you don't think you should have the badge or you don't think the badge is a good idea, please discuss it on the badge's [[Template talk:AdminBadge|discussion]]. -[[User:Valentine the Rogue|Valentine the Rogue]] 16:06, 11 April 2009 (MDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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:Coo' with me bro. -- [[User:Eiji|Eiji]] 20:54, 11 April 2009 (MDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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==I Missz Youz==&lt;br /&gt;
Eiji... I missz youz...  --[[User:Jay Freedman|Jay Freedman]] 22:59, 28 August 2009 (MDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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:I has a fan.  :)  Well no loss, I intend to have great comedy with all my derelict pages now. -- [[User:Eiji|Eiji]] 23:07, 28 August 2009 (MDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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::Good!  I was hoping you wouldn't just up and leave.  This place needs a person like you hanging around.  Much Luvz and Kizz'z.  --[[User:Jay Freedman|Jay Freedman]] 23:12, 28 August 2009 (MDT)(I am totally just kidding about the Luvz and Kizz'z.  Ok...)&lt;br /&gt;
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:::But how will I be able to fulfill my secret fantasies about you without the luvz and kizz'z?  :O&lt;br /&gt;
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:::Wait, those aren't the ancient eldritch words for death and destruction?  Oops.  Anyway, yeah, I'm leaving links everywhere where you can find my actual stuff now. -- [[User:Eiji|Eiji]] 23:14, 28 August 2009 (MDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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::::I truly hope the above isn't a reference to any possible premeditated vandalism. &amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;lt;small&amp;gt;&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;border: 1px solid black; -moz-border-radius:10px&amp;quot;&amp;gt;[[User:Hooper|'''&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;background-color:White; color:Black; -moz-border-radius-topleft:10px; -moz-border-radius-bottomleft:10px&amp;quot;&amp;gt;  Hooper  &amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;''']][[User talk:Hooper|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;background-color:Black; color:white; -moz-border-radius-bottomleft:10px; -moz-border-radius-topleft:10px&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;amp;nbsp;talk&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]][[Special:Contributions/Hooper|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;background-color:black; color:white&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;amp;nbsp;contribs&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]][[Special:Emailuser/Hooper|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;background-color:black; color:white; -moz-border-radius-bottomright:10px; -moz-border-radius-topright:10px&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;amp;nbsp;email&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]]&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;&amp;lt;/small&amp;gt; 10:27, 29 August 2009 (MDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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:::::Look at the changes Eiji's made. Everything is still functional with an added bit of tongue-in-cheek humor. -- [[User:Jota|Jota]] 10:31, 29 August 2009 (MDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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::::::Heh, I always found the concept of self-vandalizing to be nonsensical.  It's like... self-theft.  You really CAN'T do it.  But no, this is insurance.  I do not want a repeat of Sulacu, where they decide simply to steal your name off your work.  All this stuff will be mine.  All this stuff will be workable.  However, as in reflection to the feeling of this site, I will not be terribly serious.  If you're looking for classes appropriate for Serious Business d20 Wikia is there for that.  This is now Lolcat d20.  Expect lolcats and lol wut pears and running bears having a seat over there. -- [[User:Eiji|Eiji]] 20:19, 29 August 2009 (MDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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:::::::No, this wiki is '''not''' a joke.  Treat it with respect. &amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;lt;small&amp;gt;&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;border: 1px solid black; -moz-border-radius:10px&amp;quot;&amp;gt;[[User:Hooper|'''&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;background-color:White; color:Black; -moz-border-radius-topleft:10px; -moz-border-radius-bottomleft:10px&amp;quot;&amp;gt;  Hooper  &amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;''']][[User talk:Hooper|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;background-color:Black; color:white; -moz-border-radius-bottomleft:10px; -moz-border-radius-topleft:10px&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;amp;nbsp;talk&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]][[Special:Contributions/Hooper|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;background-color:black; color:white&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;amp;nbsp;contribs&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]][[Special:Emailuser/Hooper|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;background-color:black; color:white; -moz-border-radius-bottomright:10px; -moz-border-radius-topright:10px&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;amp;nbsp;email&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]]&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;&amp;lt;/small&amp;gt; 21:29, 29 August 2009 (MDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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::::::::Why so serious?  :D  *Jokergrin*  If you have a problem with humor, that's what April Fools is there for.  You can put it on everything yourself if you want, I don't feel the need to bother.  Or, if you're telling me that joke pages are bad, may I suggest asking Green Dragon to change policy and remove the April Fools category.&lt;br /&gt;
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::::::::Just don't get banned while asking.  ;) -- [[User:Eiji|Eiji]] 21:41, 29 August 2009 (MDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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:::::::::Hooper, take a chill pill.  Its his original Shizz'nits.  I kinda like the changes too. This is not a negative thing.  Its a Luvz and Kizz'z thang'.  --[[User:Jay Freedman|Jay Freedman]] 21:56, 29 August 2009 (MDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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:When someone says ''&amp;quot;Serious Business d20 Wikia is there for that.  This is now Lolcat d20.&amp;quot;'' it is completely clear that they are belittling this wiki's place, and establishing a clear intention to make less of it - even if only through their own articles.  This is not acceptable on any level, and it is a very negative thing. &amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;lt;small&amp;gt;&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;border: 1px solid black; -moz-border-radius:10px&amp;quot;&amp;gt;[[User:Hooper|'''&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;background-color:White; color:Black; -moz-border-radius-topleft:10px; -moz-border-radius-bottomleft:10px&amp;quot;&amp;gt;  Hooper  &amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;''']][[User talk:Hooper|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;background-color:Black; color:white; -moz-border-radius-bottomleft:10px; -moz-border-radius-topleft:10px&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;amp;nbsp;talk&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]][[Special:Contributions/Hooper|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;background-color:black; color:white&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;amp;nbsp;contribs&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]][[Special:Emailuser/Hooper|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;background-color:black; color:white; -moz-border-radius-bottomright:10px; -moz-border-radius-topright:10px&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;amp;nbsp;email&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]]&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;&amp;lt;/small&amp;gt; 22:15, 29 August 2009 (MDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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:: You aren't familiar with Eiji's madness aren't you? --[[User:Lord Dhazriel|Dhazriel]] 22:21, 29 August 2009 (MDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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:::Actually, I am.  Which is why I said above that I hoped his statements wouldn't lead to vandalism, whether he is conscious of it or not.  His &amp;quot;madness&amp;quot; as you put it should not be allowed to deteriorate this wiki, even if he is a nice guy. &amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;lt;small&amp;gt;&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;border: 1px solid black; -moz-border-radius:10px&amp;quot;&amp;gt;[[User:Hooper|'''&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;background-color:White; color:Black; -moz-border-radius-topleft:10px; -moz-border-radius-bottomleft:10px&amp;quot;&amp;gt;  Hooper  &amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;''']][[User talk:Hooper|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;background-color:Black; color:white; -moz-border-radius-bottomleft:10px; -moz-border-radius-topleft:10px&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;amp;nbsp;talk&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]][[Special:Contributions/Hooper|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;background-color:black; color:white&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;amp;nbsp;contribs&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]][[Special:Emailuser/Hooper|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;background-color:black; color:white; -moz-border-radius-bottomright:10px; -moz-border-radius-topright:10px&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;amp;nbsp;email&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]]&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;&amp;lt;/small&amp;gt; 22:24, 29 August 2009 (MDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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::::I made Sheep the Head and Lord Eiji the god of gumdrops from the heavens.  That was before the Wikipocalypse.  Tell me, have I belittled the Wiki?  What of the Farmer and Cheerleader (which brings to question how to I alternative those... maybe I'll make them DEAD SERIOUS BUSINESS or something).  Those belittling too?&lt;br /&gt;
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::::I ask you this because it's important.  Technically, I have no use for my work being here anymore.  I'd like to have it deleted.  BUT I CAN'T, due to a very silly ruling.  Rather than fight the power, I'll play along and do what I can do.  One thing I can do it see what happens when I want to run my sillier games but need solid mechanics behind it.  It's called reflavoring.&lt;br /&gt;
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::::Like I said, take time out of your life to April Fools it all if it offends you so.  I don't mind, really.  Anyway, you'll still have quality posters here like Jason Bagby if you need serious business.&lt;br /&gt;
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::::... ok, that last part WAS a joke.  XD  Laugh it off.  -- [[User:Eiji|Eiji]] 22:43, 29 August 2009 (MDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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:::::Wow Hooper, I wish you had this sort of zeal back when our copyright was being violated! [[User:Surgo|Surgo]] 08:48, 30 August 2009 (MDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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::::::After closer inspection of the GNU FDL, and reading numerous legal analysis of it's relationship to wikis, I learned that the copyright wasn't being violated in any way, actually. But that is another story for another time - and one that actually surprised me. &amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;lt;small&amp;gt;&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;border: 1px solid black; -moz-border-radius:10px&amp;quot;&amp;gt;[[User:Hooper|'''&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;background-color:White; color:Black; -moz-border-radius-topleft:10px; -moz-border-radius-bottomleft:10px&amp;quot;&amp;gt;  Hooper  &amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;''']][[User talk:Hooper|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;background-color:Black; color:white; -moz-border-radius-bottomleft:10px; -moz-border-radius-topleft:10px&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;amp;nbsp;talk&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]][[Special:Contributions/Hooper|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;background-color:black; color:white&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;amp;nbsp;contribs&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]][[Special:Emailuser/Hooper|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;background-color:black; color:white; -moz-border-radius-bottomright:10px; -moz-border-radius-topright:10px&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;amp;nbsp;email&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]]&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;&amp;lt;/small&amp;gt; 08:53, 30 August 2009 (MDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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:::::::Actually, it was being violated (just because Wikipedia does it doesn't mean it's legal). Stripping off the names of the authors from the title page is explicitly not allowed. [[User:Surgo|Surgo]] 12:38, 30 August 2009 (MDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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:As long as a history exists, then that requirement of having the author's information is already met.  I don't even agree with that fully, but it is just how it is, whether we like it or not.  &amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;lt;small&amp;gt;&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;border: 1px solid black; -moz-border-radius:10px&amp;quot;&amp;gt;[[User:Hooper|'''&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;background-color:White; color:Black; -moz-border-radius-topleft:10px; -moz-border-radius-bottomleft:10px&amp;quot;&amp;gt;  Hooper  &amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;''']][[User talk:Hooper|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;background-color:Black; color:white; -moz-border-radius-bottomleft:10px; -moz-border-radius-topleft:10px&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;amp;nbsp;talk&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]][[Special:Contributions/Hooper|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;background-color:black; color:white&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;amp;nbsp;contribs&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]][[Special:Emailuser/Hooper|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;background-color:black; color:white; -moz-border-radius-bottomright:10px; -moz-border-radius-topright:10px&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;amp;nbsp;email&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]]&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;&amp;lt;/small&amp;gt; 12:46, 30 August 2009 (MDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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::Except...it's not just a requirement of &amp;quot;having the author's information&amp;quot;. The requirement is you have the author's information '''on the title page'''. Explicitly. On the title page. Not the history page (which is a separate, distinct entity under the GFDL). [[User:Surgo|Surgo]] 12:49, 30 August 2009 (MDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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:::I'm not a legal expert in this particular field, however, when it came up the other day with TK I looked into it.  Lawyer after lawyer has stated that legally speaking, the history page qualify because it is technically still the title page.  Go look it up.  Its crazy. &amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;lt;small&amp;gt;&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;border: 1px solid black; -moz-border-radius:10px&amp;quot;&amp;gt;[[User:Hooper|'''&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;background-color:White; color:Black; -moz-border-radius-topleft:10px; -moz-border-radius-bottomleft:10px&amp;quot;&amp;gt;  Hooper  &amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;''']][[User talk:Hooper|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;background-color:Black; color:white; -moz-border-radius-bottomleft:10px; -moz-border-radius-topleft:10px&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;amp;nbsp;talk&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]][[Special:Contributions/Hooper|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;background-color:black; color:white&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;amp;nbsp;contribs&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]][[Special:Emailuser/Hooper|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;background-color:black; color:white; -moz-border-radius-bottomright:10px; -moz-border-radius-topright:10px&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;amp;nbsp;email&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]]&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;&amp;lt;/small&amp;gt; 12:54, 30 August 2009 (MDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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::::Lawyer after lawyer? I'm quite interested in seeing that. Where are these lawyers who have claimed this? If that's the case (actual J.D.s saying this), I'll stop my complaints. [[User:Surgo|Surgo]] 12:57, 30 August 2009 (MDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Saiyans ==&lt;br /&gt;
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Hey Eiji, My name is James and I found D&amp;amp;D Wiki, and your page by yahoo search while looking for a D&amp;amp;D Saiyan Race. Ive been working on my own version for some time, and after reading what you came up with, Id very much like to be able to have a conversation at length with you over messenger and show you what Ive got so far and see what you think about it and maybe get some feedback. I'll check back here to see what you have to say. I look forward to hearing from you soon!&lt;br /&gt;
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:Yo James!  I'm glad I inspired you.  You don't really need my permission or anything, especially since I am no longer technically active on this site (we have moved to here- [http://dungeons.wikia.com/wiki/Dungeons_and_Dragons_Wiki] over some foolish highschool drama.  You can read Green Dragon's page to see the story, personally I have a bit of a problem getting kicked in the nuts for something unrelated to me.  But that's a story for another time, about those saiyans... by all means feel free to chat it up, especially since all my material here is being altered.  Don't worry though, the original Saiyans remains intact on the Wikia, and it will be some time before I reach the saiyans.  :)  I have a lot of articles and a lot of work here, too much simply for it to go to waste.  Don't forget to sign your posts through dude, it's &amp;quot;~ ~ ~ ~&amp;quot; at the end of your post, minus spaces.&lt;br /&gt;
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:I'll be around! -- [[User:Eiji|Eiji]] 09:09, 30 August 2009 (MDT)&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
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==Welcome to D&amp;amp;D Wiki==&lt;br /&gt;
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Hello Eiji, and on behalf of [[User:Green Dragon|Green Dragon]], welcome to D&amp;amp;D Wiki! Thank you for your contributions. We hope you like D&amp;amp;D Wiki and decide to stay. [[User:Green Dragon|Green Dragon]] is the owner of the site (though he's unavailable right now), and if you have a question feel free to ask me in his absence, however when contacting anyone on D&amp;amp;D Wiki through talk pages please sign your name using four tildes &amp;lt;nowiki&amp;gt;(~~~~)&amp;lt;/nowiki&amp;gt;; this will automatically produce your name and the date.  Also, if you want to help D&amp;amp;D Wiki but just don't know how  [http://www.dandwiki.com/wiki/index.php?title=User_talk:Sledged&amp;amp;action=edit&amp;amp;section=new drop me a note] and I'll see what I can do.  (Alternatively, you can [http://www.dandwiki.com/wiki/index.php?title=User_talk:Green_Dragon&amp;amp;action=edit&amp;amp;section=new leave a message on Green Dragon's talk page].  I and a few others keep tabs on the discussions going on there.)  However, when leaving a note please indicate how much time you would like to spend working, how well you know the Wiki Format, and how well you know D&amp;amp;D.  I hope you enjoy editing here and being a D&amp;amp;D Wikian! If you need help ask me on my talk page, [[User:Green Dragon|Green Dragon]]'s talk page, or just right here.  Again, welcome!  —[[User:Sledged|Sledged]] ([[User talk:Sledged|talk]]) 12:41, 2 July 2007 (MDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Nomination for Adminship ==&lt;br /&gt;
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Hey!  I just [[Requests for Adminship/Eiji|nominated you for adminship]].  I hope you make it ''':)'''.  However, you really should fill out the &amp;quot;Candidates Prelude&amp;quot; information on that page and you should probably also make a user page (since so many things are linking to it right now, like the main page, etc, and it looks unprofessional to not have one ''':)''').  Again, hope you make it ''':)'''.  --[[User:Green Dragon|Green Dragon]] 16:32, 27 November 2007 (MST)&lt;br /&gt;
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:Sadly you did not make adminship...  Maybe next time ''':)'''.  --[[User:Green Dragon|Green Dragon]] 22:54, 4 December 2007 (MST)&lt;br /&gt;
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::@-@  The things that happen when I vanish for a week.  Come and gone before I even knew.... &lt;br /&gt;
::Well, I suppose it doesn't matter.  I still need to get a handle on things (and more time, what with Xmas season working at KB Toy does not let you rest).  I do have one question though, how do I make a user page? -- [[User:Eiji|Eiji]] 00:03, 5 December 2007 (MST)&lt;br /&gt;
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:::Follow the red link in your signature (or the red &amp;quot;user page&amp;quot; link at the top of this page), fill in whatever info you'd like to give about yourself, and hit &amp;quot;save page.&amp;quot;  —[[User:Sledged|Sledged]] ([[User talk:Sledged|talk]]) 02:33, 5 December 2007 (MST)&lt;br /&gt;
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::::I think we should re-nominate you Eiji, for the reason that I stated [[Requests for Adminship/Eiji|here]]. --[[User:Sam Kay|Sam Kay]] 11:28, 5 December 2007 (MST)&lt;br /&gt;
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:::::Maybe after Christmas would be a better time, seeing that Eiji works at a toy shop (right?) and I do not think it would be the best idea to re-nominate someone within the same month...  Although a re-nomination does seem like a good idea.  --[[User:Green Dragon|Green Dragon]] 14:57, 5 December 2007 (MST)&lt;br /&gt;
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::::::Yeah, I agree. --[[User:Sam Kay|Sam Kay]] 08:19, 6 December 2007 (MST)&lt;br /&gt;
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:::::::I agree too, whew.  Well, user page is up, have a look-see! -- [[User:Eiji|Eiji]] 22:41, 6 December 2007 (MST)&lt;br /&gt;
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::::::::Good luck for January! --[[User:Sir Milo Teabag|Sir Milo Teabag]] 12:03, 8 December 2007 (MST)&lt;br /&gt;
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:::::::::Also, I am sure [[User:Sledged|Sledged]] would be proud of how your user page looks ''':P'''.  --[[User:Green Dragon|Green Dragon]] 21:29, 9 December 2007 (MST)&lt;br /&gt;
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::::::::::So, you still want to go for it?  It is January now ''':P'''...  --[[User:Green Dragon|Green Dragon]] 12:35, 15 January 2008 (MST)&lt;br /&gt;
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:::::::::::Let's do it! -- [[User:Eiji|Eiji]] 13:21, 15 January 2008 (MST)&lt;br /&gt;
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::::::::::::[[Requests for Adminship/Eiji]]  --[[User:Green Dragon|Green Dragon]] 13:44, 15 January 2008 (MST)&lt;br /&gt;
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:::::::::::::And, it has ended.  --[[User:Green Dragon|Green Dragon]] 01:32, 23 January 2008 (MST)&lt;br /&gt;
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:Welcome to Adminship.  You are now, as [[User:Dmilewski|Dmilewski]] once put it, part of &amp;quot;The Face&amp;quot; of D&amp;amp;D Wiki.  Honestly, as you will notice, not much has been changed now that you are an admin.  If anything, I would say more burden is placed on you.  But first, for the the new features and there uses.  You can now delete pages, protect pages, rollback edits, block users and IP's, edit every page, patrol edits, and do a couple more minor things.&lt;br /&gt;
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:*What deleting pages is, is self explanatory.&lt;br /&gt;
:*What protecting pages is, is also pretty self explanatory.&lt;br /&gt;
:*Rolling back edits is a method for removing spam.  It is more powerful than the conventional method of undoing edits.  Instead of showing a diff of the edit in question once clicked, it instantly rollsback all the edits by the user or IP in question on a certain page.  For example if I edited my user page and you clicked &amp;quot;rollback&amp;quot; on that edit it would rollback all the edits up to the point where someone else has edited it.  Be careful using this, it can be very helpful but also very harmful.&lt;br /&gt;
:*What blocking users and IP's is, is also self explanatory.&lt;br /&gt;
:*Editing every page is another self explanatory one.&lt;br /&gt;
:*Patrolling edits is a method for keeping [[Special:Recentchanges|RC]] in check, it can be seen once a diff is clicked.  All it does is, once &amp;quot;Mark as Patrolled Edits&amp;quot; is clicked, it marks the edits as patrolled so the edit will no longer show up on [[Special:Recentchanges|RC]] when &amp;quot;Hide Patrolled&amp;quot; is marked.&lt;br /&gt;
:;When or how it should be used&lt;br /&gt;
:*Deleting pages is normally done through [[:Category:Candidates for Deletion]].  Anything with a good reason to be deleted on that page should be deleted.  The other time pages should be deleted is when someone makes a certain page and after a few edits they either blank the page or replace it with something like &amp;quot;Please delete this&amp;quot;.  They don't want to work on it, and unless it is really well made and fleshed out, just delete it.&lt;br /&gt;
:*Protecting pages has quite a few different times when it should be used.  Pages should be protected according to the author's wishes (with [[Template:Locked Page]] added to the top of the page in question), in case of conflict  (with [[Template:Temp Locked Page]] added to the top of the page in question), in case of [[Help:FAQ#What are OGL, OGC, SRD, and GNU FPL?|OGC]] published materials (with [[Template:OGL Top]] added to the top of the page in question  and [[Template:OGL Bottom]] added to the bottom), or finally if the page is a vital part of D&amp;amp;D Wiki's organization.  If it deals with D&amp;amp;D Wiki's organization it either needs to be be protected from IP edits or all non-sysop edits.  As a rule of thumb pages up to two tiers deep from the [[Main Page]] are normally locked to anyone but sysops and all the others are just protected from IP edits.  For Example [[Dungeons and Dragons]] is protected from all non-sysop edits whereas a deeper in page like [[LA 0 Races]] is only protected from IP edits.  No template has to be added to pages if thay are part of D&amp;amp;D Wiki's organization (even though some do exist like [[Template:Admin Locked Page]])&lt;br /&gt;
:*Blocking a user or IP should only be used after an IP or user vandalizes a certain page.  To block someone just click &amp;quot;block&amp;quot; (found either on [[Special:Recentchanges|RC]] or the diff in question) and fill out the corresponding form.  For a typical vandalism attack I normally block the user for two weeks.  If I'm in a bad mood from vandalism or a certain discussion, then I sometimes block them for up to a month.  No standards have been set for block lengths, so it is currently really up to you when you block the user or IP.&lt;br /&gt;
:*Editing every page on D&amp;amp;D Wiki mostly means you can now edit the [[SRD:System Reference Document|SRD]] and the [[MSRD:Modern System Reference Document|MSRD]].  Feel free to edit them if you find inaccuracies.  Also, if you want to, for lack of a better word, major in the [[SRD:System Reference Document|SRD]] (as [[User:Dmilewski|Dmilewski]] has done) or the [[MSRD:Modern System Reference Document|MSRD]] (as [[User:EldritchNumen|EldrithNumen]] has done) take a look at [[SRD Talk:System Reference Document#SRD ToDo List]] or [[MSRD Talk:Modern System Reference Document#Tasks]] to see what needs to be done within the [[SRD:System Reference Document|SRD]] or [[MSRD:Modern System Reference Document|MSRD]].  There is never enough help to get it all done, so I am sure your help would be appreciated.&lt;br /&gt;
:*Patrolling edits should, in a nutshell, be used when you have looked over an edit and fixed everything that needs to be fixed (this includes answering questions, sending MoI's, etc).  If you decide to, for a lack of better words, major in [[Special:Recentchanges|RC]] (as I have ''':)''') then marking edits as patrolled will become commonplace and extremely helpful.  Below is how to &amp;quot;major&amp;quot; in recent changes, which would be a great help to D&amp;amp;D Wiki and I.  First off load recent changes and press &amp;quot;Hide patrolled edits&amp;quot;.  Next click any diff and look at the change.  Only if you are 100% sure that the edit is okay (taking formatting standards, page-linking (using the &amp;quot;what links here?&amp;quot; function), answering questions, sending MoI's, and line spacing between comments and/or the &amp;quot;Back to&amp;quot; footer into consideration) then mark the edit as patrolled.  If the edit is not okay then all you have to do is fix the problem then mark the edit as patrolled.  It's simple, but looking over every edit on D&amp;amp;D Wiki really keeps it looking and running well.  In my opinion, it is the most vital part of D&amp;amp;D Wiki.  Even marking only 20 edits as patrolled every day would be extremely helpful with this never-ending task.&lt;br /&gt;
:I know this is really long-winded, so I'll keep the rest short.  You have more burden on youself now that you are an admin because users will be looking at you for editing help, knowledge of the standards, etc etc.  It's a bit more work, but I really hope you enjoy being an admin and I hope you decide to stay around on D&amp;amp;D Wiki for a while more to come.  Welcome to Adminship, again, as [[User:Dmilewski|Dmilewski]] once put it, you're now part of &amp;quot;The Face&amp;quot; of D&amp;amp;D Wiki.  --[[User:Green Dragon|Green Dragon]] 01:32, 23 January 2008 (MST)&lt;br /&gt;
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::Whew, much to work on.  Thank you, I'll hold the title with honor and oven mitts (honorable oven mitts). -- [[User:Eiji|Eiji]] 16:45, 23 January 2008 (MST)&lt;br /&gt;
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:::''':)'''.  --[[User:Green Dragon|Green Dragon]] 22:47, 23 January 2008 (MST)&lt;br /&gt;
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== User Page ==&lt;br /&gt;
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Nice user page.  I'm flattered.  BTW, I went digging through the &amp;lt;span class=&amp;quot;plainlinks&amp;quot;&amp;gt;[http://www.dandwiki.com/w/index.php?title=Special:Log&amp;amp;user=Eiji logs]&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt; and found the date you created your username on the wiki, and inserted the date in your page. —[[User:Sledged|Sledged]] ([[User talk:Sledged|talk]]) 16:08, 7 December 2007 (MST)&lt;br /&gt;
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:Domo arigato Mr. Sledgedboto. -- [[User:Eiji|Eiji]] 22:20, 7 December 2007 (MST)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Happy Bunny Picture ==&lt;br /&gt;
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:''Discussion moved to [[Talk:Happy Bunny (DnD Creature)#Picture]]&amp;lt;small&amp;gt;The discussion was related to the happy bunny, not Eiji&amp;amp;nbsp;--[[User:Green Dragon|Green Dragon]] 13:24, 24 December 2007 (MST)&amp;lt;/small&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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== DBZ Conversion ==&lt;br /&gt;
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good luck with the state alchemist into D&amp;amp;D format, also very nice conversion of DBZ moves into D&amp;amp;D attacks.  {{Unsigned|Archangel|18:36, 10 February 2008 (MST)}}&lt;br /&gt;
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:Why thank you.  Eventually I'll work up that Superhuman/Super Saiyan prestige class at well.  I'm thinking epic. -- [[User:Eiji|Eiji]] 20:06, 10 February 2008 (MST)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Moving ==&lt;br /&gt;
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Trouble in the lands of reality, I have been and may still be only half here while I handle some terrible RL troubles.  I shall return in full, I promise.  -- [[User:Eiji|Eiji]] 14:55, 25 March 2008 (MDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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:Sounds good ''':)'''.  Thanks for keeping us updated.  --[[User:Green Dragon|Green Dragon]] 01:30, 26 March 2008 (MDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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::Alright, I'm back, mostly.  Time to ease back into posting flow. -- [[User:Eiji|Eiji]] 22:38, 10 April 2008 (MDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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==Thanks==&lt;br /&gt;
I never thanked you, You kinda helped get into the flow of this site, so i wanted to thank you for all your help.[[User:Summerscythe|Summerscythe]] 15:17, 29 May 2008 (MDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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:Awww, it's no problem.  Why, thank you.  ''':D'''  I hear you're trying to get the tavern hopping again (I'm in now actually, it's populated!) so I hope to see you in there soon. -- [[User:Eiji|Eiji]] 21:31, 29 May 2008 (MDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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== D&amp;amp;D Game ==&lt;br /&gt;
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Sorry, I alway played 2nd edition and im a little confused about how to do my char. Im not sure also if my characters concept suit you. Anyway if you could help me a little i would appreciate. With all grace to the mighty Eiji--[[User:Lord Dhazriel|Lord Dhazriel]] 23:52, 7 June 2008 (MDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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:Ah ha ha.  I'm not that great, but thank you.  Now, I will claim complete ignorance on 2e (I started in 3.5e) but I'll try to help where I can.  Unfortunately, where do I start?  The only major changes I can recall off hand is THAC0 turning into AC, weapon size changes, and spell changes.  There's more I'm sure of course, where do I start?&lt;br /&gt;
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:Anyway, hit me with your concept.  ''':D''' -- [[User:Eiji|Eiji]] 16:35, 8 June 2008 (MDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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:: You can find them on my [[User:Lord Dhazriel#Characters Concepts|user page]], by the way when the game begin.--[[User:Lord Dhazriel|Lord Dhazriel]] 17:23, 8 June 2008 (MDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Plushies!!! ==&lt;br /&gt;
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Hey dude can I post some racial feats I made for plushies?--[[User:Risek|Risek]] 12:54, 11 June 2008 (MDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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:Go for it.  ''':)''' -- [[User:Eiji|Eiji]] 16:33, 11 June 2008 (MDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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::Ok--[[User:Risek|Risek]] 21:51, 11 June 2008 (MDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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== EIJI!!!!!!!!!!!! ==&lt;br /&gt;
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Go to the tavern {{Unsigned|Risek}}&lt;br /&gt;
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:And again! --[[User:Daniel Draco|Daniel Draco]] 20:38, 24 November 2008 (MST)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Live Forever ==&lt;br /&gt;
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&amp;quot;Must convert self into D&amp;amp;D form, and live forever!&amp;quot;&lt;br /&gt;
lol watch out for inevitables XD --[[User:Jack Bread|Jack Bread]] 23:45, 20 July 2008 (MDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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== I had a question ==&lt;br /&gt;
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The Spell you made, Ell's Handy Homunculus, is awesome, but me and my roomie were wondering if a Plushie spellcaster (btw Plushies are my new favorite race) can make one and how, as they possess no blood of their own. Just a question.- Tripp Thorne&lt;br /&gt;
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:Thank you kindly.  You most certainly can use it.  Plushie blood is stuffing, so you can use that to supplement for the blood component.&lt;br /&gt;
:(That's crazy!  I have blood!  It's right inside this sack of meat here!)&lt;br /&gt;
:Eiji Plushie, what are you doing, I'm not a sack of mEAATAAAGAGHJHFJOHHWFJHKJAWHjk3rjafsf&lt;br /&gt;
:...-- [[User:Eiji|Eiji]] 15:17, 20 August 2008 (MDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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::Another quick question: Is it cool if I post some Plushy Feats I've been working on? - Tripp Thorne&lt;br /&gt;
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:::Go for it! -- [[User:Eiji|Eiji]] 09:27, 22 August 2008 (MDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Question: Bladed Fan ==&lt;br /&gt;
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My question concerns this: ''&amp;quot;Larger or smaller fans create larger or smaller effects. It is the maximum amount of damage your fan is capable of down one '''size category'''. (A Large fan, dealing 1d6 damage, creates a 5 mph wind every +1, and a Small fan, dealing 1d3, does 2 mph).&amp;quot;''&lt;br /&gt;
Is that simply supposed to be the maximum damage of the weapon -1? I ask because &amp;quot;5&amp;quot; isn't a maximum damage of any weapon at any size category. I also ask because gargantuan and colossal fans get out of hand pretty quickly (2d6 gargantuan would produce 11mph per point of strength bonus, producing tornado winds with only a strength modifier of +16. And a colossal version would be even easier to produce tornado winds with (strength modifier +11; keeping even gargantuan and colossal creatures checked).&lt;br /&gt;
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And, lastly, does the full round action provoke attacks of opportunity? --Nox_Noctis&lt;br /&gt;
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:Good catch there, looks like I mixed up some of the old text with the new text when I had it based on a different system, and ended up making it even more confusing.  It happens, and now its fixed, making it difficult to use, and provoking AoOs to prevent abuses from very strong PCs with huge Str scores and huger fans.  I've made the alterations and clarifications needed.  -- [[User:Eiji|Eiji]] 00:15, 26 August 2008 (MDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Question: Kopiko Draw Spell-like Ability ==&lt;br /&gt;
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How is the Will (''save''; word left out in the race entry) DC determined? Which ability modifier does it use? --Nox_Noctis&lt;br /&gt;
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:Default is always 10 + 1/2 HD + [[Cha]], btu I'll go clarify that now. -- [[User:Eiji|Eiji]] 13:55, 26 August 2008 (MDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Question about the Domain Time Warp ==&lt;br /&gt;
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Hello, my name is Santiago Mendez, my user name is Sarrow. I was wondering if I could use your cleric domain Time Warp for a Deity that I am making? -[[User:Sarrow|Sarrow]] 15:35, 11 September 2008 (MDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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:By all means.  ''':D'''  Everything on the Wiki is free to use.  I'm flattered you like my work, by all means.  -- [[User:Eiji|Eiji]] 07:38, 14 September 2008 (MDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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::Yeah, the deity is Aetas, the Father of Time. -[[User:Sarrow|Sarrow]] 14:14, 14 September 2008 (MDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Nezumi ==&lt;br /&gt;
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Thanks for the info; I wasn't sure there was a nezumi so I decided to make one.--[[User:Archangel|Arael]] 17:21, 19 September 2008 (MDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Barnstar ==&lt;br /&gt;
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{{Anti-Vandal Barnstar|This one is for reverting the childish edits to the Chuck Norris page so quickly.  The page always seems to attract vandals, and Eiji was quick to get it reverted. --[[User:Aarnott|Aarnott]] 11:24, 22 July 2008 (MDT) }}&lt;br /&gt;
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== AHHHHHHH!!!! ==&lt;br /&gt;
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AHHHH! AHHHHH!!!! What am I doing?? I don't know! You wrote on my page and I wanted to write back! Eiji! I want to draw Lord Eiji for his page on the wiki at some point, if you don't mind. I realize I've committed to drawing a whole pile of things already, but I want to add that one to the list because I saw he had not picture yet and I thought it would be fun to draw. AHHHH!!!! --[[User:Lumi|Lumi]] 20:28, 25 October 2008 (MDT)Lumi&lt;br /&gt;
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:AAAAHHHH!!!!!!  AAAAAAAAHHHHHHH!!!!  OMG AAAAAHHHHH!!!!  Lord Eiji, holy crap yes, AAAHHHHH!!!!  I shall PM you pictures of his plush continence, just add wings and ears and tail, and then DELICIOUSNESS!  Go on, I dare you to SHOW ME YOUR MOVES!  YES!&lt;br /&gt;
:LUMI PAWNCH! -- [[User:Eiji|Eiji]] 21:04, 25 October 2008 (MDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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::AHHH!!!!  You dared me and I did it!  Mostly!  But you are asleep!!!!!!  NOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!  &lt;br /&gt;
::Now I have to wait until tomorrow to find out what you think! --[[User:Lumi|Lumi]] 02:27, 27 October 2008 (MDT)Lumi&lt;br /&gt;
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:::AAAAAHHHHHHH!!!!!!  King Eiji is preparing a SOLAR PLUSHIE PAWWWWWNCH!  You have won INTERNETS and LONGCATS!  TOP SCORE!!!  -- [[User:Eiji|Eiji]] 09:44, 27 October 2008 (MDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Spellborg Feat==&lt;br /&gt;
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Hey I made this in a moment of creativity. [[Improved Spellborg (DnD Feat)|Improved Spellborg]] I hope you don't mind. Tell me what you think of it. --[[User:Lord Dhazriel|Lord Dhazriel]] 13:51, 30 October 2008 (MDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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:Hmmm, interesting.  I'll look at the balance later, but the concept of expanding template powers with feats is novel. -- [[User:Eiji|Eiji]] 20:22, 30 October 2008 (MDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Sky Eye and the Clockwork subtype ==&lt;br /&gt;
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I looked at your creature entry for [[Sky Eye (DnD Creature)]] and there was no accompanying link for the clockwork subtype. Also, what does Locomotion and Observation do for a Sky Eye?&lt;br /&gt;
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:I forgot to link it, didn't I?  I do have the clockwork subtype page around here somewhere.  When I return, in a rush.&lt;br /&gt;
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:The short of it is that Locomotion and Observation are the subjects it is allowed to act &amp;quot;intelligent&amp;quot; on, using it's Cha as Int for the purposes of movement and watching things, so it won't easily be tricked by a wall in the way or by someone hiding, and it'll remember.  However, for all other subjects, say, combat, it's generic construct programming.  &amp;quot;I hit it again!&amp;quot; -- [[User:Eiji|Eiji]] 15:52, 17 November 2008 (MST)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Nomination ==&lt;br /&gt;
Hello, I've recently opened up a Request for Adminship for myself at [[Requests for Adminship/Hooper]], and as an admin yourself, would greatly appreciate your input, suggestions, thoughts, or general comments.  Thanks. &amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;lt;small&amp;gt;&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;border: 1px solid blue; -moz-border-radius:10px&amp;quot;&amp;gt;[[User:Hooper|'''&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;background-color:White; color:FireBrick; -moz-border-radius-topleft:10px; -moz-border-radius-bottomleft:10px&amp;quot;&amp;gt;  Hooper  &amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;''']][[User talk:Hooper|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;background-color:red; color:blue; -moz-border-radius-bottomleft:10px; -moz-border-radius-topleft:10px&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;amp;nbsp;talk&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]][[Special:Contributions/Hooper|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;background-color:red; color:blue&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;amp;nbsp;contribs&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]][[Special:Emailuser/Hooper|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;background-color:red; color:blue; -moz-border-radius-bottomright:10px; -moz-border-radius-topright:10px&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;amp;nbsp;email&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]]&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;&amp;lt;/small&amp;gt; 19:21, 16 December 2008 (MST)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Plushie 4e? ==&lt;br /&gt;
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Hey Eiji, I was wondering if you were planning on making plushies 4e. there would need to be some serious reworking of it but i love the idea of them. I would really like just at least the race, and the Go boom as an encounter power. [[User:Master K|Master K]] 16:51, 8 April 2009 (MDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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:As is, I am not a 4e player.  However, if someone with the know how wishes to, I give you permission to translate them into 4e mechanics.  Hee hee hee.  -- [[User:Eiji|Eiji]] 19:54, 8 April 2009 (MDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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::I am not too good at it and i will give it a try, is this an invatation to anyone or just me? [[User:Master K|Master K]] 19:58, 8 April 2009 (MDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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:::Anyone.  Know any 4e gurus?  -- [[User:Eiji|Eiji]] 21:37, 8 April 2009 (MDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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:::: [[User:Sepsis|Sepsis]] or [[User:Sam Kay|Sam Kay]], both made 4e featured article. Maybe they want to help. --[[User:Lord Dhazriel|Lord Dhazriel]] 22:18, 8 April 2009 (MDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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:::::Just so you know, [[User:Sam Kay|Sam Kay]] finished the conversion. Here it is.[[Eijilund_Plushies_(4e_Race)|Eijilund Plushies(4e Race)]][[User:Master K|Master K]] 16:16, 7 July 2009 (MDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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== AdminBadge ==&lt;br /&gt;
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I'd like to label you as an admin with the &amp;lt;s&amp;gt;&amp;lt;nowiki&amp;gt;[[Template:AdminBadge]]&amp;lt;/nowiki&amp;gt;&amp;lt;/s&amp;gt; on your user page. If you have a reason you don't think you should have the badge or you don't think the badge is a good idea, please discuss it on the badge's [[Template talk:AdminBadge|discussion]]. -[[User:Valentine the Rogue|Valentine the Rogue]] 16:06, 11 April 2009 (MDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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:Coo' with me bro. -- [[User:Eiji|Eiji]] 20:54, 11 April 2009 (MDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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==I Missz Youz==&lt;br /&gt;
Eiji... I missz youz...  --[[User:Jay Freedman|Jay Freedman]] 22:59, 28 August 2009 (MDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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:I has a fan.  :)  Well no loss, I intend to have great comedy with all my derelict pages now. -- [[User:Eiji|Eiji]] 23:07, 28 August 2009 (MDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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::Good!  I was hoping you wouldn't just up and leave.  This place needs a person like you hanging around.  Much Luvz and Kizz'z.  --[[User:Jay Freedman|Jay Freedman]] 23:12, 28 August 2009 (MDT)(I am totally just kidding about the Luvz and Kizz'z.  Ok...)&lt;br /&gt;
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:::But how will I be able to fulfill my secret fantasies about you without the luvz and kizz'z?  :O&lt;br /&gt;
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:::Wait, those aren't the ancient eldritch words for death and destruction?  Oops.  Anyway, yeah, I'm leaving links everywhere where you can find my actual stuff now. -- [[User:Eiji|Eiji]] 23:14, 28 August 2009 (MDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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::::I truly hope the above isn't a reference to any possible premeditated vandalism. &amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;lt;small&amp;gt;&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;border: 1px solid black; -moz-border-radius:10px&amp;quot;&amp;gt;[[User:Hooper|'''&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;background-color:White; color:Black; -moz-border-radius-topleft:10px; -moz-border-radius-bottomleft:10px&amp;quot;&amp;gt;  Hooper  &amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;''']][[User talk:Hooper|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;background-color:Black; color:white; -moz-border-radius-bottomleft:10px; -moz-border-radius-topleft:10px&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;amp;nbsp;talk&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]][[Special:Contributions/Hooper|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;background-color:black; color:white&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;amp;nbsp;contribs&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]][[Special:Emailuser/Hooper|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;background-color:black; color:white; -moz-border-radius-bottomright:10px; -moz-border-radius-topright:10px&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;amp;nbsp;email&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]]&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;&amp;lt;/small&amp;gt; 10:27, 29 August 2009 (MDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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:::::Look at the changes Eiji's made. Everything is still functional with an added bit of tongue-in-cheek humor. -- [[User:Jota|Jota]] 10:31, 29 August 2009 (MDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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::::::Heh, I always found the concept of self-vandalizing to be nonsensical.  It's like... self-theft.  You really CAN'T do it.  But no, this is insurance.  I do not want a repeat of Sulacu, where they decide simply to steal your name off your work.  All this stuff will be mine.  All this stuff will be workable.  However, as in reflection to the feeling of this site, I will not be terribly serious.  If you're looking for classes appropriate for Serious Business d20 Wikia is there for that.  This is now Lolcat d20.  Expect lolcats and lol wut pears and running bears having a seat over there. -- [[User:Eiji|Eiji]] 20:19, 29 August 2009 (MDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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:::::::No, this wiki is '''not''' a joke.  Treat it with respect. &amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;lt;small&amp;gt;&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;border: 1px solid black; -moz-border-radius:10px&amp;quot;&amp;gt;[[User:Hooper|'''&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;background-color:White; color:Black; -moz-border-radius-topleft:10px; -moz-border-radius-bottomleft:10px&amp;quot;&amp;gt;  Hooper  &amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;''']][[User talk:Hooper|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;background-color:Black; color:white; -moz-border-radius-bottomleft:10px; -moz-border-radius-topleft:10px&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;amp;nbsp;talk&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]][[Special:Contributions/Hooper|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;background-color:black; color:white&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;amp;nbsp;contribs&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]][[Special:Emailuser/Hooper|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;background-color:black; color:white; -moz-border-radius-bottomright:10px; -moz-border-radius-topright:10px&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;amp;nbsp;email&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]]&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;&amp;lt;/small&amp;gt; 21:29, 29 August 2009 (MDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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::::::::Why so serious?  :D  *Jokergrin*  If you have a problem with humor, that's what April Fools is there for.  You can put it on everything yourself if you want, I don't feel the need to bother.  Or, if you're telling me that joke pages are bad, may I suggest asking Green Dragon to change policy and remove the April Fools category.&lt;br /&gt;
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::::::::Just don't get banned while asking.  ;) -- [[User:Eiji|Eiji]] 21:41, 29 August 2009 (MDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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:::::::::Hooper, take a chill pill.  Its his original Shizz'nits.  I kinda like the changes too. This is not a negative thing.  Its a Luvz and Kizz'z thang'.  --[[User:Jay Freedman|Jay Freedman]] 21:56, 29 August 2009 (MDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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:When someone says ''&amp;quot;Serious Business d20 Wikia is there for that.  This is now Lolcat d20.&amp;quot;'' it is completely clear that they are belittling this wiki's place, and establishing a clear intention to make less of it - even if only through their own articles.  This is not acceptable on any level, and it is a very negative thing. &amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;lt;small&amp;gt;&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;border: 1px solid black; -moz-border-radius:10px&amp;quot;&amp;gt;[[User:Hooper|'''&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;background-color:White; color:Black; -moz-border-radius-topleft:10px; -moz-border-radius-bottomleft:10px&amp;quot;&amp;gt;  Hooper  &amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;''']][[User talk:Hooper|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;background-color:Black; color:white; -moz-border-radius-bottomleft:10px; -moz-border-radius-topleft:10px&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;amp;nbsp;talk&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]][[Special:Contributions/Hooper|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;background-color:black; color:white&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;amp;nbsp;contribs&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]][[Special:Emailuser/Hooper|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;background-color:black; color:white; -moz-border-radius-bottomright:10px; -moz-border-radius-topright:10px&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;amp;nbsp;email&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]]&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;&amp;lt;/small&amp;gt; 22:15, 29 August 2009 (MDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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:: You aren't familiar with Eiji's madness aren't you? --[[User:Lord Dhazriel|Dhazriel]] 22:21, 29 August 2009 (MDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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:::Actually, I am.  Which is why I said above that I hoped his statements wouldn't lead to vandalism, whether he is conscious of it or not.  His &amp;quot;madness&amp;quot; as you put it should not be allowed to deteriorate this wiki, even if he is a nice guy. &amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;lt;small&amp;gt;&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;border: 1px solid black; -moz-border-radius:10px&amp;quot;&amp;gt;[[User:Hooper|'''&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;background-color:White; color:Black; -moz-border-radius-topleft:10px; -moz-border-radius-bottomleft:10px&amp;quot;&amp;gt;  Hooper  &amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;''']][[User talk:Hooper|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;background-color:Black; color:white; -moz-border-radius-bottomleft:10px; -moz-border-radius-topleft:10px&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;amp;nbsp;talk&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]][[Special:Contributions/Hooper|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;background-color:black; color:white&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;amp;nbsp;contribs&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]][[Special:Emailuser/Hooper|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;background-color:black; color:white; -moz-border-radius-bottomright:10px; -moz-border-radius-topright:10px&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;amp;nbsp;email&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]]&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;&amp;lt;/small&amp;gt; 22:24, 29 August 2009 (MDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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::::I made Sheep the Head and Lord Eiji the god of gumdrops from the heavens.  That was before the Wikipocalypse.  Tell me, have I belittled the Wiki?  What of the Farmer and Cheerleader (which brings to question how to I alternative those... maybe I'll make them DEAD SERIOUS BUSINESS or something).  Those belittling too?&lt;br /&gt;
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::::I ask you this because it's important.  Technically, I have no use for my work being here anymore.  I'd like to have it deleted.  BUT I CAN'T, due to a very silly ruling.  Rather than fight the power, I'll play along and do what I can do.  One thing I can do it see what happens when I want to run my sillier games but need solid mechanics behind it.  It's called reflavoring.&lt;br /&gt;
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::::Like I said, take time out of your life to April Fools it all if it offends you so.  I don't mind, really.  Anyway, you'll still have quality posters here like Jason Bagby if you need serious business.&lt;br /&gt;
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::::... ok, that last part WAS a joke.  XD  Laugh it off.  -- [[User:Eiji|Eiji]] 22:43, 29 August 2009 (MDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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:::::Wow Hooper, I wish you had this sort of zeal back when our copyright was being violated! [[User:Surgo|Surgo]] 08:48, 30 August 2009 (MDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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::::::After closer inspection of the GNU FDL, and reading numerous legal analysis of it's relationship to wikis, I learned that the copyright wasn't being violated in any way, actually. But that is another story for another time - and one that actually surprised me. &amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;lt;small&amp;gt;&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;border: 1px solid black; -moz-border-radius:10px&amp;quot;&amp;gt;[[User:Hooper|'''&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;background-color:White; color:Black; -moz-border-radius-topleft:10px; -moz-border-radius-bottomleft:10px&amp;quot;&amp;gt;  Hooper  &amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;''']][[User talk:Hooper|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;background-color:Black; color:white; -moz-border-radius-bottomleft:10px; -moz-border-radius-topleft:10px&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;amp;nbsp;talk&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]][[Special:Contributions/Hooper|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;background-color:black; color:white&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;amp;nbsp;contribs&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]][[Special:Emailuser/Hooper|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;background-color:black; color:white; -moz-border-radius-bottomright:10px; -moz-border-radius-topright:10px&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;amp;nbsp;email&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]]&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;&amp;lt;/small&amp;gt; 08:53, 30 August 2009 (MDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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:::::::Actually, it was being violated (just because Wikipedia does it doesn't mean it's legal). Stripping off the names of the authors from the title page is explicitly not allowed. [[User:Surgo|Surgo]] 12:38, 30 August 2009 (MDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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:As long as a history exists, then that requirement of having the author's information is already met.  I don't even agree with that fully, but it is just how it is, whether we like it or not.  &amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;lt;small&amp;gt;&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;border: 1px solid black; -moz-border-radius:10px&amp;quot;&amp;gt;[[User:Hooper|'''&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;background-color:White; color:Black; -moz-border-radius-topleft:10px; -moz-border-radius-bottomleft:10px&amp;quot;&amp;gt;  Hooper  &amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;''']][[User talk:Hooper|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;background-color:Black; color:white; -moz-border-radius-bottomleft:10px; -moz-border-radius-topleft:10px&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;amp;nbsp;talk&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]][[Special:Contributions/Hooper|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;background-color:black; color:white&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;amp;nbsp;contribs&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]][[Special:Emailuser/Hooper|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;background-color:black; color:white; -moz-border-radius-bottomright:10px; -moz-border-radius-topright:10px&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;amp;nbsp;email&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]]&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;&amp;lt;/small&amp;gt; 12:46, 30 August 2009 (MDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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::Except...it's not just a requirement of &amp;quot;having the author's information&amp;quot;. The requirement is you have the author's information '''on the title page'''. Explicitly. On the title page. Not the history page (which is a separate, distinct entity under the GFDL). [[User:Surgo|Surgo]] 12:49, 30 August 2009 (MDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Saiyans ==&lt;br /&gt;
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Hey Eiji, My name is James and I found D&amp;amp;D Wiki, and your page by yahoo search while looking for a D&amp;amp;D Saiyan Race. Ive been working on my own version for some time, and after reading what you came up with, Id very much like to be able to have a conversation at length with you over messenger and show you what Ive got so far and see what you think about it and maybe get some feedback. I'll check back here to see what you have to say. I look forward to hearing from you soon!&lt;br /&gt;
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:Yo James!  I'm glad I inspired you.  You don't really need my permission or anything, especially since I am no longer technically active on this site (we have moved to here- [http://dungeons.wikia.com/wiki/Dungeons_and_Dragons_Wiki] over some foolish highschool drama.  You can read Green Dragon's page to see the story, personally I have a bit of a problem getting kicked in the nuts for something unrelated to me.  But that's a story for another time, about those saiyans... by all means feel free to chat it up, especially since all my material here is being altered.  Don't worry though, the original Saiyans remains intact on the Wikia, and it will be some time before I reach the saiyans.  :)  I have a lot of articles and a lot of work here, too much simply for it to go to waste.  Don't forget to sign your posts through dude, it's &amp;quot;~ ~ ~ ~&amp;quot; at the end of your post, minus spaces.&lt;br /&gt;
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:I'll be around! -- [[User:Eiji|Eiji]] 09:09, 30 August 2009 (MDT)&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
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		<title>User:Surgo</title>
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		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;Surgo: &lt;/p&gt;
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&lt;div&gt;I left this website with most of its active userbase and went to make [http://dungeons.wikia.com my own].&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
		<author><name>Surgo</name></author>	</entry>

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		<id>http://www.dandwiki.com/wiki/Talk:Shadowdancer,_Tome_(3.5e_Prestige_Class)</id>
		<title>Talk:Shadowdancer, Tome (3.5e Prestige Class)</title>
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		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;Surgo: &lt;/p&gt;
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&lt;div&gt;==Dayum==&lt;br /&gt;
I'm debating the abilities. I don't have any objection to the various shadow-themed mobility abilities. It's a Shadowdancer, after all. And Shadow Strike and the Mirrorshard Blade get a pass, given the damage. One question: I take it as given that a Shadowdancer can Sneak Attack with a Mirrorshard, but can he do it with a Shadow Strike?&lt;br /&gt;
It's what the Shadowdancer should be. I like! I'll rate sometime when I've got the leisure to be thorough. --[[User:Genowhirl|Genowhirl]] 19:28, 6 April 2009 (MDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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:Yes, you can sneak attack with your Shadow Strike. [[User:Surgo|Surgo]] 19:35, 6 April 2009 (MDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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::Thank you, Surgo. --[[User:Genowhirl|Genowhirl]] 19:42, 6 April 2009 (MDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Rating ==  &lt;br /&gt;
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'''Power - 4/5''' I give this class a 4 out of 5 because while the abilities might look overpowered at first, they are in fact very balanced and allow the class to be both flavorful and mechanically powerful without overshadowing other classes. The only things that concern me are Greater Teleport at will, Shadow Walk at will, and that Phantasmal Image fools even True Seeing. If these were changed, I'd probably give it a 5/5. However, these are not the core characteristics of the class, which is well-balanced.  --[[User:Ghostwheel|Ghostwheel]] 03:42, 21 July 2009 (MDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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'''Wording - 5/5''' I give this class a 5 out of 5 because the abilities are worded well and are understandable at first glance.  --[[User:Ghostwheel|Ghostwheel]] 03:42, 21 July 2009 (MDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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'''[[Help:Standards and Formatting (DnD Guideline)|Formatting]] - 5/5''' I give this class a 5 out of 5 because the page appears to be formatted correctly.  --[[User:Ghostwheel|Ghostwheel]] 03:42, 21 July 2009 (MDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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'''Flavor - 5/5''' I give this class a 5 out of 5 because the class has great flavor, and is what the DMG Shadowdancer should have been.  --[[User:Ghostwheel|Ghostwheel]] 03:42, 21 July 2009 (MDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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==Do Want / Rating==&lt;br /&gt;
The Shadowdancer in the 3.5e DMG always seemed rather lacking to me, and I personally can't wait to beg my DM to let me give this one a shot.&lt;br /&gt;
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'''Power: 4/5''' Personally I would swap &amp;quot;Shadow Slide&amp;quot; with either &amp;quot;Darkness&amp;quot; or &amp;quot;Hide in Plain Sight&amp;quot;  That seems like it would be a better gradient, but having not had the chance to play one yet, I can only speculate.&lt;br /&gt;
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:I put it at first level because the Shadowdancer is expected to be able to teleport through shadows, that's why the class exists. If it wasn't at first level, that would be massively disappointing to everyone. It's not a big deal anyway, because you can only teleport 35' at the first level of the class (and it's a standard action at that). Thanks for the positive commentary! [[User:Surgo|Surgo]] 20:58, 24 July 2009 (MDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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'''Wording: 5/5''' It's always easier to convince a DM to allow Homebrew with clear, concise wording. And this Prestige class doesn't disappoint.&lt;br /&gt;
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'''Formatting: 5/5''' Clear layout that follows the guidelines, can't complain.&lt;br /&gt;
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'''Flavor: 5/5''' After playing 6 levels of SRD Shadowdancer I can tell you, this is exactly what I wanted to play. The flavor text in the article itself could use some more imagination, but better simple and clear than long-winded and confusing. I can't wait to play&lt;br /&gt;
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--[[User:Badger|Badger]] 20:43, 24 July 2009 (MDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Changes ==&lt;br /&gt;
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Don't know the wiki policy, do I keep or change the original author? I'd personally want to keep it, since I think Surgo deserves the credit for making it.&lt;br /&gt;
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Also, I'm not going to be making any big changes (saw the adopter of the Artificer did so) since I think the class is good as-is. If I do, I might change the above things that I saw balance problems with--perhaps make the abilities 3/day instead of at will, or something like that, but wanted to discuss it before I did so. --[[User:Ghostwheel|Ghostwheel]] 01:49, 26 August 2009 (MDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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:If you want to make mechanical changes, make a variant please. [[User:Surgo|Surgo]] 12:42, 30 August 2009 (MDT)&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
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		<title>User talk:Eiji</title>
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		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;Surgo: /* I Missz Youz */&lt;/p&gt;
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|page=Talk:Eijilund_Plushies_(4e_Race)&lt;br /&gt;
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|notifier=Sam Kay&lt;br /&gt;
|date_time=13:00, 8 July 2009 (MDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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|page=Eijilund_Plushies_(4e_Race)&lt;br /&gt;
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|notifier=Sam Kay&lt;br /&gt;
|date_time=07:43, 7 July 2009 (MDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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{{MoI-Row&lt;br /&gt;
|page=Talk:Sex_Fiend_(DnD_Trait)&lt;br /&gt;
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|notifier=Palantini&lt;br /&gt;
|date_time=21:15, 2 June 2009 (MDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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{{MoI-Row&lt;br /&gt;
|page=Talk:Artificer_Battery_Pack_(3.5e_Equipment)&lt;br /&gt;
|section=Eureka!&lt;br /&gt;
|notifier=Green Dragon&lt;br /&gt;
|date_time=22:15, 4 May 2009 (MDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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{{MoI-Row&lt;br /&gt;
|page=Artificer_Battery_Pack_(3.5e_Equipment)&lt;br /&gt;
|section=&lt;br /&gt;
|notifier=Green Dragon&lt;br /&gt;
|date_time=22:13, 4 May 2009 (MDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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{{MoI-Row&lt;br /&gt;
|page=Talk:Artificer_Battery_Pack_(3.5e_Equipment)&lt;br /&gt;
|section=Some Improvements&lt;br /&gt;
|notifier=Green Dragon&lt;br /&gt;
|date_time=02:39, 24 April 2009 (MDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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{{MoI-Row&lt;br /&gt;
|page=Discussion:Dickery_Does_Not_Exclude_Good_Points&lt;br /&gt;
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|notifier=Sam Kay&lt;br /&gt;
|date_time=04:40, 12 March 2009 (MDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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{{MoI-Row&lt;br /&gt;
|page=Talk:Biomancer_(DnD_Class)&lt;br /&gt;
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|notifier=SeekAndDestroy&lt;br /&gt;
|date_time=18:54, 5 March 2009 (MST)&lt;br /&gt;
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{{MoI-Row&lt;br /&gt;
|page=Gate Knight (DnD Class)&lt;br /&gt;
|section=Class Features&lt;br /&gt;
|notifier=Daniel Draco&lt;br /&gt;
|date_time=06:09, 23 February 2009 (MST)&lt;br /&gt;
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==Welcome to D&amp;amp;D Wiki==&lt;br /&gt;
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Hello Eiji, and on behalf of [[User:Green Dragon|Green Dragon]], welcome to D&amp;amp;D Wiki! Thank you for your contributions. We hope you like D&amp;amp;D Wiki and decide to stay. [[User:Green Dragon|Green Dragon]] is the owner of the site (though he's unavailable right now), and if you have a question feel free to ask me in his absence, however when contacting anyone on D&amp;amp;D Wiki through talk pages please sign your name using four tildes &amp;lt;nowiki&amp;gt;(~~~~)&amp;lt;/nowiki&amp;gt;; this will automatically produce your name and the date.  Also, if you want to help D&amp;amp;D Wiki but just don't know how  [http://www.dandwiki.com/wiki/index.php?title=User_talk:Sledged&amp;amp;action=edit&amp;amp;section=new drop me a note] and I'll see what I can do.  (Alternatively, you can [http://www.dandwiki.com/wiki/index.php?title=User_talk:Green_Dragon&amp;amp;action=edit&amp;amp;section=new leave a message on Green Dragon's talk page].  I and a few others keep tabs on the discussions going on there.)  However, when leaving a note please indicate how much time you would like to spend working, how well you know the Wiki Format, and how well you know D&amp;amp;D.  I hope you enjoy editing here and being a D&amp;amp;D Wikian! If you need help ask me on my talk page, [[User:Green Dragon|Green Dragon]]'s talk page, or just right here.  Again, welcome!  —[[User:Sledged|Sledged]] ([[User talk:Sledged|talk]]) 12:41, 2 July 2007 (MDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Nomination for Adminship ==&lt;br /&gt;
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Hey!  I just [[Requests for Adminship/Eiji|nominated you for adminship]].  I hope you make it ''':)'''.  However, you really should fill out the &amp;quot;Candidates Prelude&amp;quot; information on that page and you should probably also make a user page (since so many things are linking to it right now, like the main page, etc, and it looks unprofessional to not have one ''':)''').  Again, hope you make it ''':)'''.  --[[User:Green Dragon|Green Dragon]] 16:32, 27 November 2007 (MST)&lt;br /&gt;
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:Sadly you did not make adminship...  Maybe next time ''':)'''.  --[[User:Green Dragon|Green Dragon]] 22:54, 4 December 2007 (MST)&lt;br /&gt;
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::@-@  The things that happen when I vanish for a week.  Come and gone before I even knew.... &lt;br /&gt;
::Well, I suppose it doesn't matter.  I still need to get a handle on things (and more time, what with Xmas season working at KB Toy does not let you rest).  I do have one question though, how do I make a user page? -- [[User:Eiji|Eiji]] 00:03, 5 December 2007 (MST)&lt;br /&gt;
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:::Follow the red link in your signature (or the red &amp;quot;user page&amp;quot; link at the top of this page), fill in whatever info you'd like to give about yourself, and hit &amp;quot;save page.&amp;quot;  —[[User:Sledged|Sledged]] ([[User talk:Sledged|talk]]) 02:33, 5 December 2007 (MST)&lt;br /&gt;
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::::I think we should re-nominate you Eiji, for the reason that I stated [[Requests for Adminship/Eiji|here]]. --[[User:Sam Kay|Sam Kay]] 11:28, 5 December 2007 (MST)&lt;br /&gt;
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:::::Maybe after Christmas would be a better time, seeing that Eiji works at a toy shop (right?) and I do not think it would be the best idea to re-nominate someone within the same month...  Although a re-nomination does seem like a good idea.  --[[User:Green Dragon|Green Dragon]] 14:57, 5 December 2007 (MST)&lt;br /&gt;
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::::::Yeah, I agree. --[[User:Sam Kay|Sam Kay]] 08:19, 6 December 2007 (MST)&lt;br /&gt;
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:::::::I agree too, whew.  Well, user page is up, have a look-see! -- [[User:Eiji|Eiji]] 22:41, 6 December 2007 (MST)&lt;br /&gt;
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::::::::Good luck for January! --[[User:Sir Milo Teabag|Sir Milo Teabag]] 12:03, 8 December 2007 (MST)&lt;br /&gt;
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:::::::::Also, I am sure [[User:Sledged|Sledged]] would be proud of how your user page looks ''':P'''.  --[[User:Green Dragon|Green Dragon]] 21:29, 9 December 2007 (MST)&lt;br /&gt;
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::::::::::So, you still want to go for it?  It is January now ''':P'''...  --[[User:Green Dragon|Green Dragon]] 12:35, 15 January 2008 (MST)&lt;br /&gt;
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:::::::::::Let's do it! -- [[User:Eiji|Eiji]] 13:21, 15 January 2008 (MST)&lt;br /&gt;
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::::::::::::[[Requests for Adminship/Eiji]]  --[[User:Green Dragon|Green Dragon]] 13:44, 15 January 2008 (MST)&lt;br /&gt;
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:::::::::::::And, it has ended.  --[[User:Green Dragon|Green Dragon]] 01:32, 23 January 2008 (MST)&lt;br /&gt;
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''&amp;amp;rarr;Reverted indentation to one colon''&lt;br /&gt;
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:Welcome to Adminship.  You are now, as [[User:Dmilewski|Dmilewski]] once put it, part of &amp;quot;The Face&amp;quot; of D&amp;amp;D Wiki.  Honestly, as you will notice, not much has been changed now that you are an admin.  If anything, I would say more burden is placed on you.  But first, for the the new features and there uses.  You can now delete pages, protect pages, rollback edits, block users and IP's, edit every page, patrol edits, and do a couple more minor things.&lt;br /&gt;
:;What it is:&lt;br /&gt;
:*What deleting pages is, is self explanatory.&lt;br /&gt;
:*What protecting pages is, is also pretty self explanatory.&lt;br /&gt;
:*Rolling back edits is a method for removing spam.  It is more powerful than the conventional method of undoing edits.  Instead of showing a diff of the edit in question once clicked, it instantly rollsback all the edits by the user or IP in question on a certain page.  For example if I edited my user page and you clicked &amp;quot;rollback&amp;quot; on that edit it would rollback all the edits up to the point where someone else has edited it.  Be careful using this, it can be very helpful but also very harmful.&lt;br /&gt;
:*What blocking users and IP's is, is also self explanatory.&lt;br /&gt;
:*Editing every page is another self explanatory one.&lt;br /&gt;
:*Patrolling edits is a method for keeping [[Special:Recentchanges|RC]] in check, it can be seen once a diff is clicked.  All it does is, once &amp;quot;Mark as Patrolled Edits&amp;quot; is clicked, it marks the edits as patrolled so the edit will no longer show up on [[Special:Recentchanges|RC]] when &amp;quot;Hide Patrolled&amp;quot; is marked.&lt;br /&gt;
:;When or how it should be used&lt;br /&gt;
:*Deleting pages is normally done through [[:Category:Candidates for Deletion]].  Anything with a good reason to be deleted on that page should be deleted.  The other time pages should be deleted is when someone makes a certain page and after a few edits they either blank the page or replace it with something like &amp;quot;Please delete this&amp;quot;.  They don't want to work on it, and unless it is really well made and fleshed out, just delete it.&lt;br /&gt;
:*Protecting pages has quite a few different times when it should be used.  Pages should be protected according to the author's wishes (with [[Template:Locked Page]] added to the top of the page in question), in case of conflict  (with [[Template:Temp Locked Page]] added to the top of the page in question), in case of [[Help:FAQ#What are OGL, OGC, SRD, and GNU FPL?|OGC]] published materials (with [[Template:OGL Top]] added to the top of the page in question  and [[Template:OGL Bottom]] added to the bottom), or finally if the page is a vital part of D&amp;amp;D Wiki's organization.  If it deals with D&amp;amp;D Wiki's organization it either needs to be be protected from IP edits or all non-sysop edits.  As a rule of thumb pages up to two tiers deep from the [[Main Page]] are normally locked to anyone but sysops and all the others are just protected from IP edits.  For Example [[Dungeons and Dragons]] is protected from all non-sysop edits whereas a deeper in page like [[LA 0 Races]] is only protected from IP edits.  No template has to be added to pages if thay are part of D&amp;amp;D Wiki's organization (even though some do exist like [[Template:Admin Locked Page]])&lt;br /&gt;
:*Blocking a user or IP should only be used after an IP or user vandalizes a certain page.  To block someone just click &amp;quot;block&amp;quot; (found either on [[Special:Recentchanges|RC]] or the diff in question) and fill out the corresponding form.  For a typical vandalism attack I normally block the user for two weeks.  If I'm in a bad mood from vandalism or a certain discussion, then I sometimes block them for up to a month.  No standards have been set for block lengths, so it is currently really up to you when you block the user or IP.&lt;br /&gt;
:*Editing every page on D&amp;amp;D Wiki mostly means you can now edit the [[SRD:System Reference Document|SRD]] and the [[MSRD:Modern System Reference Document|MSRD]].  Feel free to edit them if you find inaccuracies.  Also, if you want to, for lack of a better word, major in the [[SRD:System Reference Document|SRD]] (as [[User:Dmilewski|Dmilewski]] has done) or the [[MSRD:Modern System Reference Document|MSRD]] (as [[User:EldritchNumen|EldrithNumen]] has done) take a look at [[SRD Talk:System Reference Document#SRD ToDo List]] or [[MSRD Talk:Modern System Reference Document#Tasks]] to see what needs to be done within the [[SRD:System Reference Document|SRD]] or [[MSRD:Modern System Reference Document|MSRD]].  There is never enough help to get it all done, so I am sure your help would be appreciated.&lt;br /&gt;
:*Patrolling edits should, in a nutshell, be used when you have looked over an edit and fixed everything that needs to be fixed (this includes answering questions, sending MoI's, etc).  If you decide to, for a lack of better words, major in [[Special:Recentchanges|RC]] (as I have ''':)''') then marking edits as patrolled will become commonplace and extremely helpful.  Below is how to &amp;quot;major&amp;quot; in recent changes, which would be a great help to D&amp;amp;D Wiki and I.  First off load recent changes and press &amp;quot;Hide patrolled edits&amp;quot;.  Next click any diff and look at the change.  Only if you are 100% sure that the edit is okay (taking formatting standards, page-linking (using the &amp;quot;what links here?&amp;quot; function), answering questions, sending MoI's, and line spacing between comments and/or the &amp;quot;Back to&amp;quot; footer into consideration) then mark the edit as patrolled.  If the edit is not okay then all you have to do is fix the problem then mark the edit as patrolled.  It's simple, but looking over every edit on D&amp;amp;D Wiki really keeps it looking and running well.  In my opinion, it is the most vital part of D&amp;amp;D Wiki.  Even marking only 20 edits as patrolled every day would be extremely helpful with this never-ending task.&lt;br /&gt;
:I know this is really long-winded, so I'll keep the rest short.  You have more burden on youself now that you are an admin because users will be looking at you for editing help, knowledge of the standards, etc etc.  It's a bit more work, but I really hope you enjoy being an admin and I hope you decide to stay around on D&amp;amp;D Wiki for a while more to come.  Welcome to Adminship, again, as [[User:Dmilewski|Dmilewski]] once put it, you're now part of &amp;quot;The Face&amp;quot; of D&amp;amp;D Wiki.  --[[User:Green Dragon|Green Dragon]] 01:32, 23 January 2008 (MST)&lt;br /&gt;
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::Whew, much to work on.  Thank you, I'll hold the title with honor and oven mitts (honorable oven mitts). -- [[User:Eiji|Eiji]] 16:45, 23 January 2008 (MST)&lt;br /&gt;
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:::''':)'''.  --[[User:Green Dragon|Green Dragon]] 22:47, 23 January 2008 (MST)&lt;br /&gt;
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== User Page ==&lt;br /&gt;
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Nice user page.  I'm flattered.  BTW, I went digging through the &amp;lt;span class=&amp;quot;plainlinks&amp;quot;&amp;gt;[http://www.dandwiki.com/w/index.php?title=Special:Log&amp;amp;user=Eiji logs]&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt; and found the date you created your username on the wiki, and inserted the date in your page. —[[User:Sledged|Sledged]] ([[User talk:Sledged|talk]]) 16:08, 7 December 2007 (MST)&lt;br /&gt;
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:Domo arigato Mr. Sledgedboto. -- [[User:Eiji|Eiji]] 22:20, 7 December 2007 (MST)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Happy Bunny Picture ==&lt;br /&gt;
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:''Discussion moved to [[Talk:Happy Bunny (DnD Creature)#Picture]]&amp;lt;small&amp;gt;The discussion was related to the happy bunny, not Eiji&amp;amp;nbsp;--[[User:Green Dragon|Green Dragon]] 13:24, 24 December 2007 (MST)&amp;lt;/small&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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== DBZ Conversion ==&lt;br /&gt;
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good luck with the state alchemist into D&amp;amp;D format, also very nice conversion of DBZ moves into D&amp;amp;D attacks.  {{Unsigned|Archangel|18:36, 10 February 2008 (MST)}}&lt;br /&gt;
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:Why thank you.  Eventually I'll work up that Superhuman/Super Saiyan prestige class at well.  I'm thinking epic. -- [[User:Eiji|Eiji]] 20:06, 10 February 2008 (MST)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Moving ==&lt;br /&gt;
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Trouble in the lands of reality, I have been and may still be only half here while I handle some terrible RL troubles.  I shall return in full, I promise.  -- [[User:Eiji|Eiji]] 14:55, 25 March 2008 (MDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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:Sounds good ''':)'''.  Thanks for keeping us updated.  --[[User:Green Dragon|Green Dragon]] 01:30, 26 March 2008 (MDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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::Alright, I'm back, mostly.  Time to ease back into posting flow. -- [[User:Eiji|Eiji]] 22:38, 10 April 2008 (MDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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==Thanks==&lt;br /&gt;
I never thanked you, You kinda helped get into the flow of this site, so i wanted to thank you for all your help.[[User:Summerscythe|Summerscythe]] 15:17, 29 May 2008 (MDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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:Awww, it's no problem.  Why, thank you.  ''':D'''  I hear you're trying to get the tavern hopping again (I'm in now actually, it's populated!) so I hope to see you in there soon. -- [[User:Eiji|Eiji]] 21:31, 29 May 2008 (MDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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== D&amp;amp;D Game ==&lt;br /&gt;
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Sorry, I alway played 2nd edition and im a little confused about how to do my char. Im not sure also if my characters concept suit you. Anyway if you could help me a little i would appreciate. With all grace to the mighty Eiji--[[User:Lord Dhazriel|Lord Dhazriel]] 23:52, 7 June 2008 (MDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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:Ah ha ha.  I'm not that great, but thank you.  Now, I will claim complete ignorance on 2e (I started in 3.5e) but I'll try to help where I can.  Unfortunately, where do I start?  The only major changes I can recall off hand is THAC0 turning into AC, weapon size changes, and spell changes.  There's more I'm sure of course, where do I start?&lt;br /&gt;
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:Anyway, hit me with your concept.  ''':D''' -- [[User:Eiji|Eiji]] 16:35, 8 June 2008 (MDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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:: You can find them on my [[User:Lord Dhazriel#Characters Concepts|user page]], by the way when the game begin.--[[User:Lord Dhazriel|Lord Dhazriel]] 17:23, 8 June 2008 (MDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Plushies!!! ==&lt;br /&gt;
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Hey dude can I post some racial feats I made for plushies?--[[User:Risek|Risek]] 12:54, 11 June 2008 (MDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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:Go for it.  ''':)''' -- [[User:Eiji|Eiji]] 16:33, 11 June 2008 (MDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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::Ok--[[User:Risek|Risek]] 21:51, 11 June 2008 (MDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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:::Here are the first few: &lt;br /&gt;
*[[Silkstitched (DnD Feat)]]&lt;br /&gt;
**[[Silky Smooth (DnD Feat)]]&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Rotstitched (DnD Feat)]]&lt;br /&gt;
**[[Icky Icky (DnD Feat)]]&lt;br /&gt;
--[[User:Risek|Risek]] 08:18, 12 June 2008 (MDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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== EIJI!!!!!!!!!!!! ==&lt;br /&gt;
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Go to the tavern {{Unsigned|Risek}}&lt;br /&gt;
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:And again! --[[User:Daniel Draco|Daniel Draco]] 20:38, 24 November 2008 (MST)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Live Forever ==&lt;br /&gt;
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&amp;quot;Must convert self into D&amp;amp;D form, and live forever!&amp;quot;&lt;br /&gt;
lol watch out for inevitables XD --[[User:Jack Bread|Jack Bread]] 23:45, 20 July 2008 (MDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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== I had a question ==&lt;br /&gt;
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The Spell you made, Ell's Handy Homunculus, is awesome, but me and my roomie were wondering if a Plushie spellcaster (btw Plushies are my new favorite race) can make one and how, as they possess no blood of their own. Just a question.- Tripp Thorne&lt;br /&gt;
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:Thank you kindly.  You most certainly can use it.  Plushie blood is stuffing, so you can use that to supplement for the blood component.&lt;br /&gt;
:(That's crazy!  I have blood!  It's right inside this sack of meat here!)&lt;br /&gt;
:Eiji Plushie, what are you doing, I'm not a sack of mEAATAAAGAGHJHFJOHHWFJHKJAWHjk3rjafsf&lt;br /&gt;
:...-- [[User:Eiji|Eiji]] 15:17, 20 August 2008 (MDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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::Another quick question: Is it cool if I post some Plushy Feats I've been working on? - Tripp Thorne&lt;br /&gt;
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:::Go for it! -- [[User:Eiji|Eiji]] 09:27, 22 August 2008 (MDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Question: Bladed Fan ==&lt;br /&gt;
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My question concerns this: ''&amp;quot;Larger or smaller fans create larger or smaller effects. It is the maximum amount of damage your fan is capable of down one '''size category'''. (A Large fan, dealing 1d6 damage, creates a 5 mph wind every +1, and a Small fan, dealing 1d3, does 2 mph).&amp;quot;''&lt;br /&gt;
Is that simply supposed to be the maximum damage of the weapon -1? I ask because &amp;quot;5&amp;quot; isn't a maximum damage of any weapon at any size category. I also ask because gargantuan and colossal fans get out of hand pretty quickly (2d6 gargantuan would produce 11mph per point of strength bonus, producing tornado winds with only a strength modifier of +16. And a colossal version would be even easier to produce tornado winds with (strength modifier +11; keeping even gargantuan and colossal creatures checked).&lt;br /&gt;
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Also, what area (size, shape) does the wind take place in? Is it a cone emanating from the user? Is it a line? How long does the wind last?&lt;br /&gt;
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And, lastly, does the full round action provoke attacks of opportunity? --Nox_Noctis&lt;br /&gt;
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:Good catch there, looks like I mixed up some of the old text with the new text when I had it based on a different system, and ended up making it even more confusing.  It happens, and now its fixed, making it difficult to use, and provoking AoOs to prevent abuses from very strong PCs with huge Str scores and huger fans.  I've made the alterations and clarifications needed.  -- [[User:Eiji|Eiji]] 00:15, 26 August 2008 (MDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Question: Kopiko Draw Spell-like Ability ==&lt;br /&gt;
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How is the Will (''save''; word left out in the race entry) DC determined? Which ability modifier does it use? --Nox_Noctis&lt;br /&gt;
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:Default is always 10 + 1/2 HD + [[Cha]], btu I'll go clarify that now. -- [[User:Eiji|Eiji]] 13:55, 26 August 2008 (MDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Question about the Domain Time Warp ==&lt;br /&gt;
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Hello, my name is Santiago Mendez, my user name is Sarrow. I was wondering if I could use your cleric domain Time Warp for a Deity that I am making? -[[User:Sarrow|Sarrow]] 15:35, 11 September 2008 (MDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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:By all means.  ''':D'''  Everything on the Wiki is free to use.  I'm flattered you like my work, by all means.  -- [[User:Eiji|Eiji]] 07:38, 14 September 2008 (MDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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::Yeah, the deity is Aetas, the Father of Time. -[[User:Sarrow|Sarrow]] 14:14, 14 September 2008 (MDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Nezumi ==&lt;br /&gt;
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Thanks for the info; I wasn't sure there was a nezumi so I decided to make one.--[[User:Archangel|Arael]] 17:21, 19 September 2008 (MDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Barnstar ==&lt;br /&gt;
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{{Anti-Vandal Barnstar|This one is for reverting the childish edits to the Chuck Norris page so quickly.  The page always seems to attract vandals, and Eiji was quick to get it reverted. --[[User:Aarnott|Aarnott]] 11:24, 22 July 2008 (MDT) }}&lt;br /&gt;
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== AHHHHHHH!!!! ==&lt;br /&gt;
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AHHHH! AHHHHH!!!! What am I doing?? I don't know! You wrote on my page and I wanted to write back! Eiji! I want to draw Lord Eiji for his page on the wiki at some point, if you don't mind. I realize I've committed to drawing a whole pile of things already, but I want to add that one to the list because I saw he had not picture yet and I thought it would be fun to draw. AHHHH!!!! --[[User:Lumi|Lumi]] 20:28, 25 October 2008 (MDT)Lumi&lt;br /&gt;
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:AAAAHHHH!!!!!!  AAAAAAAAHHHHHHH!!!!  OMG AAAAAHHHHH!!!!  Lord Eiji, holy crap yes, AAAHHHHH!!!!  I shall PM you pictures of his plush continence, just add wings and ears and tail, and then DELICIOUSNESS!  Go on, I dare you to SHOW ME YOUR MOVES!  YES!&lt;br /&gt;
:LUMI PAWNCH! -- [[User:Eiji|Eiji]] 21:04, 25 October 2008 (MDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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::AHHH!!!!  You dared me and I did it!  Mostly!  But you are asleep!!!!!!  NOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!  &lt;br /&gt;
::Now I have to wait until tomorrow to find out what you think! --[[User:Lumi|Lumi]] 02:27, 27 October 2008 (MDT)Lumi&lt;br /&gt;
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:::AAAAAHHHHHHH!!!!!!  King Eiji is preparing a SOLAR PLUSHIE PAWWWWWNCH!  You have won INTERNETS and LONGCATS!  TOP SCORE!!!  -- [[User:Eiji|Eiji]] 09:44, 27 October 2008 (MDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Spellborg Feat==&lt;br /&gt;
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Hey I made this in a moment of creativity. [[Improved Spellborg (DnD Feat)|Improved Spellborg]] I hope you don't mind. Tell me what you think of it. --[[User:Lord Dhazriel|Lord Dhazriel]] 13:51, 30 October 2008 (MDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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:Hmmm, interesting.  I'll look at the balance later, but the concept of expanding template powers with feats is novel. -- [[User:Eiji|Eiji]] 20:22, 30 October 2008 (MDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Sky Eye and the Clockwork subtype ==&lt;br /&gt;
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I looked at your creature entry for [[Sky Eye (DnD Creature)]] and there was no accompanying link for the clockwork subtype. Also, what does Locomotion and Observation do for a Sky Eye?&lt;br /&gt;
--[[User:Gedren56|Gedren56]] 15:48, 17 November 2008 (MST)&lt;br /&gt;
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:I forgot to link it, didn't I?  I do have the clockwork subtype page around here somewhere.  When I return, in a rush.&lt;br /&gt;
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:The short of it is that Locomotion and Observation are the subjects it is allowed to act &amp;quot;intelligent&amp;quot; on, using it's Cha as Int for the purposes of movement and watching things, so it won't easily be tricked by a wall in the way or by someone hiding, and it'll remember.  However, for all other subjects, say, combat, it's generic construct programming.  &amp;quot;I hit it again!&amp;quot; -- [[User:Eiji|Eiji]] 15:52, 17 November 2008 (MST)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Nomination ==&lt;br /&gt;
Hello, I've recently opened up a Request for Adminship for myself at [[Requests for Adminship/Hooper]], and as an admin yourself, would greatly appreciate your input, suggestions, thoughts, or general comments.  Thanks. &amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;lt;small&amp;gt;&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;border: 1px solid blue; -moz-border-radius:10px&amp;quot;&amp;gt;[[User:Hooper|'''&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;background-color:White; color:FireBrick; -moz-border-radius-topleft:10px; -moz-border-radius-bottomleft:10px&amp;quot;&amp;gt;  Hooper  &amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;''']][[User talk:Hooper|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;background-color:red; color:blue; -moz-border-radius-bottomleft:10px; -moz-border-radius-topleft:10px&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;amp;nbsp;talk&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]][[Special:Contributions/Hooper|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;background-color:red; color:blue&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;amp;nbsp;contribs&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]][[Special:Emailuser/Hooper|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;background-color:red; color:blue; -moz-border-radius-bottomright:10px; -moz-border-radius-topright:10px&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;amp;nbsp;email&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]]&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;&amp;lt;/small&amp;gt; 19:21, 16 December 2008 (MST)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Plushie 4e? ==&lt;br /&gt;
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Hey Eiji, I was wondering if you were planning on making plushies 4e. there would need to be some serious reworking of it but i love the idea of them. I would really like just at least the race, and the Go boom as an encounter power. [[User:Master K|Master K]] 16:51, 8 April 2009 (MDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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:As is, I am not a 4e player.  However, if someone with the know how wishes to, I give you permission to translate them into 4e mechanics.  Hee hee hee.  -- [[User:Eiji|Eiji]] 19:54, 8 April 2009 (MDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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::I am not too good at it and i will give it a try, is this an invatation to anyone or just me? [[User:Master K|Master K]] 19:58, 8 April 2009 (MDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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:::Anyone.  Know any 4e gurus?  -- [[User:Eiji|Eiji]] 21:37, 8 April 2009 (MDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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:::: [[User:Sepsis|Sepsis]] or [[User:Sam Kay|Sam Kay]], both made 4e featured article. Maybe they want to help. --[[User:Lord Dhazriel|Lord Dhazriel]] 22:18, 8 April 2009 (MDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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:::::Just so you know, [[User:Sam Kay|Sam Kay]] finished the conversion. Here it is.[[Eijilund_Plushies_(4e_Race)|Eijilund Plushies(4e Race)]][[User:Master K|Master K]] 16:16, 7 July 2009 (MDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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== AdminBadge ==&lt;br /&gt;
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I'd like to label you as an admin with the &amp;lt;s&amp;gt;&amp;lt;nowiki&amp;gt;[[Template:AdminBadge]]&amp;lt;/nowiki&amp;gt;&amp;lt;/s&amp;gt; on your user page. If you have a reason you don't think you should have the badge or you don't think the badge is a good idea, please discuss it on the badge's [[Template talk:AdminBadge|discussion]]. -[[User:Valentine the Rogue|Valentine the Rogue]] 16:06, 11 April 2009 (MDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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:Coo' with me bro. -- [[User:Eiji|Eiji]] 20:54, 11 April 2009 (MDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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==I Missz Youz==&lt;br /&gt;
Eiji... I missz youz...  --[[User:Jay Freedman|Jay Freedman]] 22:59, 28 August 2009 (MDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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:I has a fan.  :)  Well no loss, I intend to have great comedy with all my derelict pages now. -- [[User:Eiji|Eiji]] 23:07, 28 August 2009 (MDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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::Good!  I was hoping you wouldn't just up and leave.  This place needs a person like you hanging around.  Much Luvz and Kizz'z.  --[[User:Jay Freedman|Jay Freedman]] 23:12, 28 August 2009 (MDT)(I am totally just kidding about the Luvz and Kizz'z.  Ok...)&lt;br /&gt;
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:::But how will I be able to fulfill my secret fantasies about you without the luvz and kizz'z?  :O&lt;br /&gt;
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:::Wait, those aren't the ancient eldritch words for death and destruction?  Oops.  Anyway, yeah, I'm leaving links everywhere where you can find my actual stuff now. -- [[User:Eiji|Eiji]] 23:14, 28 August 2009 (MDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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::::I truly hope the above isn't a reference to any possible premeditated vandalism. &amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;lt;small&amp;gt;&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;border: 1px solid black; -moz-border-radius:10px&amp;quot;&amp;gt;[[User:Hooper|'''&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;background-color:White; color:Black; -moz-border-radius-topleft:10px; -moz-border-radius-bottomleft:10px&amp;quot;&amp;gt;  Hooper  &amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;''']][[User talk:Hooper|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;background-color:Black; color:white; -moz-border-radius-bottomleft:10px; -moz-border-radius-topleft:10px&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;amp;nbsp;talk&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]][[Special:Contributions/Hooper|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;background-color:black; color:white&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;amp;nbsp;contribs&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]][[Special:Emailuser/Hooper|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;background-color:black; color:white; -moz-border-radius-bottomright:10px; -moz-border-radius-topright:10px&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;amp;nbsp;email&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]]&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;&amp;lt;/small&amp;gt; 10:27, 29 August 2009 (MDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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:::::Look at the changes Eiji's made. Everything is still functional with an added bit of tongue-in-cheek humor. -- [[User:Jota|Jota]] 10:31, 29 August 2009 (MDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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::::::Heh, I always found the concept of self-vandalizing to be nonsensical.  It's like... self-theft.  You really CAN'T do it.  But no, this is insurance.  I do not want a repeat of Sulacu, where they decide simply to steal your name off your work.  All this stuff will be mine.  All this stuff will be workable.  However, as in reflection to the feeling of this site, I will not be terribly serious.  If you're looking for classes appropriate for Serious Business d20 Wikia is there for that.  This is now Lolcat d20.  Expect lolcats and lol wut pears and running bears having a seat over there. -- [[User:Eiji|Eiji]] 20:19, 29 August 2009 (MDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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:::::::No, this wiki is '''not''' a joke.  Treat it with respect. &amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;lt;small&amp;gt;&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;border: 1px solid black; -moz-border-radius:10px&amp;quot;&amp;gt;[[User:Hooper|'''&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;background-color:White; color:Black; -moz-border-radius-topleft:10px; -moz-border-radius-bottomleft:10px&amp;quot;&amp;gt;  Hooper  &amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;''']][[User talk:Hooper|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;background-color:Black; color:white; -moz-border-radius-bottomleft:10px; -moz-border-radius-topleft:10px&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;amp;nbsp;talk&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]][[Special:Contributions/Hooper|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;background-color:black; color:white&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;amp;nbsp;contribs&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]][[Special:Emailuser/Hooper|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;background-color:black; color:white; -moz-border-radius-bottomright:10px; -moz-border-radius-topright:10px&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;amp;nbsp;email&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]]&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;&amp;lt;/small&amp;gt; 21:29, 29 August 2009 (MDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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::::::::Why so serious?  :D  *Jokergrin*  If you have a problem with humor, that's what April Fools is there for.  You can put it on everything yourself if you want, I don't feel the need to bother.  Or, if you're telling me that joke pages are bad, may I suggest asking Green Dragon to change policy and remove the April Fools category.&lt;br /&gt;
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::::::::Just don't get banned while asking.  ;) -- [[User:Eiji|Eiji]] 21:41, 29 August 2009 (MDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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:::::::::Hooper, take a chill pill.  Its his original Shizz'nits.  I kinda like the changes too. This is not a negative thing.  Its a Luvz and Kizz'z thang'.  --[[User:Jay Freedman|Jay Freedman]] 21:56, 29 August 2009 (MDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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:When someone says ''&amp;quot;Serious Business d20 Wikia is there for that.  This is now Lolcat d20.&amp;quot;'' it is completely clear that they are belittling this wiki's place, and establishing a clear intention to make less of it - even if only through their own articles.  This is not acceptable on any level, and it is a very negative thing. &amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;lt;small&amp;gt;&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;border: 1px solid black; -moz-border-radius:10px&amp;quot;&amp;gt;[[User:Hooper|'''&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;background-color:White; color:Black; -moz-border-radius-topleft:10px; -moz-border-radius-bottomleft:10px&amp;quot;&amp;gt;  Hooper  &amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;''']][[User talk:Hooper|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;background-color:Black; color:white; -moz-border-radius-bottomleft:10px; -moz-border-radius-topleft:10px&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;amp;nbsp;talk&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]][[Special:Contributions/Hooper|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;background-color:black; color:white&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;amp;nbsp;contribs&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]][[Special:Emailuser/Hooper|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;background-color:black; color:white; -moz-border-radius-bottomright:10px; -moz-border-radius-topright:10px&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;amp;nbsp;email&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]]&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;&amp;lt;/small&amp;gt; 22:15, 29 August 2009 (MDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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:: You aren't familiar with Eiji's madness aren't you? --[[User:Lord Dhazriel|Dhazriel]] 22:21, 29 August 2009 (MDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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:::Actually, I am.  Which is why I said above that I hoped his statements wouldn't lead to vandalism, whether he is conscious of it or not.  His &amp;quot;madness&amp;quot; as you put it should not be allowed to deteriorate this wiki, even if he is a nice guy. &amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;lt;small&amp;gt;&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;border: 1px solid black; -moz-border-radius:10px&amp;quot;&amp;gt;[[User:Hooper|'''&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;background-color:White; color:Black; -moz-border-radius-topleft:10px; -moz-border-radius-bottomleft:10px&amp;quot;&amp;gt;  Hooper  &amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;''']][[User talk:Hooper|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;background-color:Black; color:white; -moz-border-radius-bottomleft:10px; -moz-border-radius-topleft:10px&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;amp;nbsp;talk&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]][[Special:Contributions/Hooper|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;background-color:black; color:white&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;amp;nbsp;contribs&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]][[Special:Emailuser/Hooper|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;background-color:black; color:white; -moz-border-radius-bottomright:10px; -moz-border-radius-topright:10px&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;amp;nbsp;email&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]]&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;&amp;lt;/small&amp;gt; 22:24, 29 August 2009 (MDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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::::I made Sheep the Head and Lord Eiji the god of gumdrops from the heavens.  That was before the Wikipocalypse.  Tell me, have I belittled the Wiki?  What of the Farmer and Cheerleader (which brings to question how to I alternative those... maybe I'll make them DEAD SERIOUS BUSINESS or something).  Those belittling too?&lt;br /&gt;
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::::I ask you this because it's important.  Technically, I have no use for my work being here anymore.  I'd like to have it deleted.  BUT I CAN'T, due to a very silly ruling.  Rather than fight the power, I'll play along and do what I can do.  One thing I can do it see what happens when I want to run my sillier games but need solid mechanics behind it.  It's called reflavoring.&lt;br /&gt;
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::::Like I said, take time out of your life to April Fools it all if it offends you so.  I don't mind, really.  Anyway, you'll still have quality posters here like Jason Bagby if you need serious business.&lt;br /&gt;
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::::... ok, that last part WAS a joke.  XD  Laugh it off.  -- [[User:Eiji|Eiji]] 22:43, 29 August 2009 (MDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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:::::Wow Hooper, I wish you had this sort of zeal back when our copyright was being violated! [[User:Surgo|Surgo]] 08:48, 30 August 2009 (MDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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::::::After closer inspection of the GNU FDL, and reading numerous legal analysis of it's relationship to wikis, I learned that the copyright wasn't being violated in any way, actually. But that is another story for another time - and one that actually surprised me. &amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;lt;small&amp;gt;&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;border: 1px solid black; -moz-border-radius:10px&amp;quot;&amp;gt;[[User:Hooper|'''&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;background-color:White; color:Black; -moz-border-radius-topleft:10px; -moz-border-radius-bottomleft:10px&amp;quot;&amp;gt;  Hooper  &amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;''']][[User talk:Hooper|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;background-color:Black; color:white; -moz-border-radius-bottomleft:10px; -moz-border-radius-topleft:10px&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;amp;nbsp;talk&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]][[Special:Contributions/Hooper|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;background-color:black; color:white&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;amp;nbsp;contribs&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]][[Special:Emailuser/Hooper|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;background-color:black; color:white; -moz-border-radius-bottomright:10px; -moz-border-radius-topright:10px&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;amp;nbsp;email&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]]&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;&amp;lt;/small&amp;gt; 08:53, 30 August 2009 (MDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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:::::::Actually, it was being violated (just because Wikipedia does it doesn't mean it's legal). Stripping off the names of the authors from the title page is explicitly not allowed. [[User:Surgo|Surgo]] 12:38, 30 August 2009 (MDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Saiyans ==&lt;br /&gt;
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Hey Eiji, My name is James and I found D&amp;amp;D Wiki, and your page by yahoo search while looking for a D&amp;amp;D Saiyan Race. Ive been working on my own version for some time, and after reading what you came up with, Id very much like to be able to have a conversation at length with you over messenger and show you what Ive got so far and see what you think about it and maybe get some feedback. I'll check back here to see what you have to say. I look forward to hearing from you soon!&lt;br /&gt;
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:Yo James!  I'm glad I inspired you.  You don't really need my permission or anything, especially since I am no longer technically active on this site (we have moved to here- [http://dungeons.wikia.com/wiki/Dungeons_and_Dragons_Wiki] over some foolish highschool drama.  You can read Green Dragon's page to see the story, personally I have a bit of a problem getting kicked in the nuts for something unrelated to me.  But that's a story for another time, about those saiyans... by all means feel free to chat it up, especially since all my material here is being altered.  Don't worry though, the original Saiyans remains intact on the Wikia, and it will be some time before I reach the saiyans.  :)  I have a lot of articles and a lot of work here, too much simply for it to go to waste.  Don't forget to sign your posts through dude, it's &amp;quot;~ ~ ~ ~&amp;quot; at the end of your post, minus spaces.&lt;br /&gt;
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:I'll be around! -- [[User:Eiji|Eiji]] 09:09, 30 August 2009 (MDT)&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
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==Welcome to D&amp;amp;D Wiki==&lt;br /&gt;
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Hello Eiji, and on behalf of [[User:Green Dragon|Green Dragon]], welcome to D&amp;amp;D Wiki! Thank you for your contributions. We hope you like D&amp;amp;D Wiki and decide to stay. [[User:Green Dragon|Green Dragon]] is the owner of the site (though he's unavailable right now), and if you have a question feel free to ask me in his absence, however when contacting anyone on D&amp;amp;D Wiki through talk pages please sign your name using four tildes &amp;lt;nowiki&amp;gt;(~~~~)&amp;lt;/nowiki&amp;gt;; this will automatically produce your name and the date.  Also, if you want to help D&amp;amp;D Wiki but just don't know how  [http://www.dandwiki.com/wiki/index.php?title=User_talk:Sledged&amp;amp;action=edit&amp;amp;section=new drop me a note] and I'll see what I can do.  (Alternatively, you can [http://www.dandwiki.com/wiki/index.php?title=User_talk:Green_Dragon&amp;amp;action=edit&amp;amp;section=new leave a message on Green Dragon's talk page].  I and a few others keep tabs on the discussions going on there.)  However, when leaving a note please indicate how much time you would like to spend working, how well you know the Wiki Format, and how well you know D&amp;amp;D.  I hope you enjoy editing here and being a D&amp;amp;D Wikian! If you need help ask me on my talk page, [[User:Green Dragon|Green Dragon]]'s talk page, or just right here.  Again, welcome!  —[[User:Sledged|Sledged]] ([[User talk:Sledged|talk]]) 12:41, 2 July 2007 (MDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Nomination for Adminship ==&lt;br /&gt;
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Hey!  I just [[Requests for Adminship/Eiji|nominated you for adminship]].  I hope you make it ''':)'''.  However, you really should fill out the &amp;quot;Candidates Prelude&amp;quot; information on that page and you should probably also make a user page (since so many things are linking to it right now, like the main page, etc, and it looks unprofessional to not have one ''':)''').  Again, hope you make it ''':)'''.  --[[User:Green Dragon|Green Dragon]] 16:32, 27 November 2007 (MST)&lt;br /&gt;
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:Sadly you did not make adminship...  Maybe next time ''':)'''.  --[[User:Green Dragon|Green Dragon]] 22:54, 4 December 2007 (MST)&lt;br /&gt;
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::@-@  The things that happen when I vanish for a week.  Come and gone before I even knew.... &lt;br /&gt;
::Well, I suppose it doesn't matter.  I still need to get a handle on things (and more time, what with Xmas season working at KB Toy does not let you rest).  I do have one question though, how do I make a user page? -- [[User:Eiji|Eiji]] 00:03, 5 December 2007 (MST)&lt;br /&gt;
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:::Follow the red link in your signature (or the red &amp;quot;user page&amp;quot; link at the top of this page), fill in whatever info you'd like to give about yourself, and hit &amp;quot;save page.&amp;quot;  —[[User:Sledged|Sledged]] ([[User talk:Sledged|talk]]) 02:33, 5 December 2007 (MST)&lt;br /&gt;
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::::I think we should re-nominate you Eiji, for the reason that I stated [[Requests for Adminship/Eiji|here]]. --[[User:Sam Kay|Sam Kay]] 11:28, 5 December 2007 (MST)&lt;br /&gt;
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:::::Maybe after Christmas would be a better time, seeing that Eiji works at a toy shop (right?) and I do not think it would be the best idea to re-nominate someone within the same month...  Although a re-nomination does seem like a good idea.  --[[User:Green Dragon|Green Dragon]] 14:57, 5 December 2007 (MST)&lt;br /&gt;
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::::::Yeah, I agree. --[[User:Sam Kay|Sam Kay]] 08:19, 6 December 2007 (MST)&lt;br /&gt;
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:::::::I agree too, whew.  Well, user page is up, have a look-see! -- [[User:Eiji|Eiji]] 22:41, 6 December 2007 (MST)&lt;br /&gt;
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::::::::Good luck for January! --[[User:Sir Milo Teabag|Sir Milo Teabag]] 12:03, 8 December 2007 (MST)&lt;br /&gt;
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:::::::::Also, I am sure [[User:Sledged|Sledged]] would be proud of how your user page looks ''':P'''.  --[[User:Green Dragon|Green Dragon]] 21:29, 9 December 2007 (MST)&lt;br /&gt;
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::::::::::So, you still want to go for it?  It is January now ''':P'''...  --[[User:Green Dragon|Green Dragon]] 12:35, 15 January 2008 (MST)&lt;br /&gt;
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:::::::::::Let's do it! -- [[User:Eiji|Eiji]] 13:21, 15 January 2008 (MST)&lt;br /&gt;
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::::::::::::[[Requests for Adminship/Eiji]]  --[[User:Green Dragon|Green Dragon]] 13:44, 15 January 2008 (MST)&lt;br /&gt;
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:::::::::::::And, it has ended.  --[[User:Green Dragon|Green Dragon]] 01:32, 23 January 2008 (MST)&lt;br /&gt;
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:Welcome to Adminship.  You are now, as [[User:Dmilewski|Dmilewski]] once put it, part of &amp;quot;The Face&amp;quot; of D&amp;amp;D Wiki.  Honestly, as you will notice, not much has been changed now that you are an admin.  If anything, I would say more burden is placed on you.  But first, for the the new features and there uses.  You can now delete pages, protect pages, rollback edits, block users and IP's, edit every page, patrol edits, and do a couple more minor things.&lt;br /&gt;
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:*What deleting pages is, is self explanatory.&lt;br /&gt;
:*What protecting pages is, is also pretty self explanatory.&lt;br /&gt;
:*Rolling back edits is a method for removing spam.  It is more powerful than the conventional method of undoing edits.  Instead of showing a diff of the edit in question once clicked, it instantly rollsback all the edits by the user or IP in question on a certain page.  For example if I edited my user page and you clicked &amp;quot;rollback&amp;quot; on that edit it would rollback all the edits up to the point where someone else has edited it.  Be careful using this, it can be very helpful but also very harmful.&lt;br /&gt;
:*What blocking users and IP's is, is also self explanatory.&lt;br /&gt;
:*Editing every page is another self explanatory one.&lt;br /&gt;
:*Patrolling edits is a method for keeping [[Special:Recentchanges|RC]] in check, it can be seen once a diff is clicked.  All it does is, once &amp;quot;Mark as Patrolled Edits&amp;quot; is clicked, it marks the edits as patrolled so the edit will no longer show up on [[Special:Recentchanges|RC]] when &amp;quot;Hide Patrolled&amp;quot; is marked.&lt;br /&gt;
:;When or how it should be used&lt;br /&gt;
:*Deleting pages is normally done through [[:Category:Candidates for Deletion]].  Anything with a good reason to be deleted on that page should be deleted.  The other time pages should be deleted is when someone makes a certain page and after a few edits they either blank the page or replace it with something like &amp;quot;Please delete this&amp;quot;.  They don't want to work on it, and unless it is really well made and fleshed out, just delete it.&lt;br /&gt;
:*Protecting pages has quite a few different times when it should be used.  Pages should be protected according to the author's wishes (with [[Template:Locked Page]] added to the top of the page in question), in case of conflict  (with [[Template:Temp Locked Page]] added to the top of the page in question), in case of [[Help:FAQ#What are OGL, OGC, SRD, and GNU FPL?|OGC]] published materials (with [[Template:OGL Top]] added to the top of the page in question  and [[Template:OGL Bottom]] added to the bottom), or finally if the page is a vital part of D&amp;amp;D Wiki's organization.  If it deals with D&amp;amp;D Wiki's organization it either needs to be be protected from IP edits or all non-sysop edits.  As a rule of thumb pages up to two tiers deep from the [[Main Page]] are normally locked to anyone but sysops and all the others are just protected from IP edits.  For Example [[Dungeons and Dragons]] is protected from all non-sysop edits whereas a deeper in page like [[LA 0 Races]] is only protected from IP edits.  No template has to be added to pages if thay are part of D&amp;amp;D Wiki's organization (even though some do exist like [[Template:Admin Locked Page]])&lt;br /&gt;
:*Blocking a user or IP should only be used after an IP or user vandalizes a certain page.  To block someone just click &amp;quot;block&amp;quot; (found either on [[Special:Recentchanges|RC]] or the diff in question) and fill out the corresponding form.  For a typical vandalism attack I normally block the user for two weeks.  If I'm in a bad mood from vandalism or a certain discussion, then I sometimes block them for up to a month.  No standards have been set for block lengths, so it is currently really up to you when you block the user or IP.&lt;br /&gt;
:*Editing every page on D&amp;amp;D Wiki mostly means you can now edit the [[SRD:System Reference Document|SRD]] and the [[MSRD:Modern System Reference Document|MSRD]].  Feel free to edit them if you find inaccuracies.  Also, if you want to, for lack of a better word, major in the [[SRD:System Reference Document|SRD]] (as [[User:Dmilewski|Dmilewski]] has done) or the [[MSRD:Modern System Reference Document|MSRD]] (as [[User:EldritchNumen|EldrithNumen]] has done) take a look at [[SRD Talk:System Reference Document#SRD ToDo List]] or [[MSRD Talk:Modern System Reference Document#Tasks]] to see what needs to be done within the [[SRD:System Reference Document|SRD]] or [[MSRD:Modern System Reference Document|MSRD]].  There is never enough help to get it all done, so I am sure your help would be appreciated.&lt;br /&gt;
:*Patrolling edits should, in a nutshell, be used when you have looked over an edit and fixed everything that needs to be fixed (this includes answering questions, sending MoI's, etc).  If you decide to, for a lack of better words, major in [[Special:Recentchanges|RC]] (as I have ''':)''') then marking edits as patrolled will become commonplace and extremely helpful.  Below is how to &amp;quot;major&amp;quot; in recent changes, which would be a great help to D&amp;amp;D Wiki and I.  First off load recent changes and press &amp;quot;Hide patrolled edits&amp;quot;.  Next click any diff and look at the change.  Only if you are 100% sure that the edit is okay (taking formatting standards, page-linking (using the &amp;quot;what links here?&amp;quot; function), answering questions, sending MoI's, and line spacing between comments and/or the &amp;quot;Back to&amp;quot; footer into consideration) then mark the edit as patrolled.  If the edit is not okay then all you have to do is fix the problem then mark the edit as patrolled.  It's simple, but looking over every edit on D&amp;amp;D Wiki really keeps it looking and running well.  In my opinion, it is the most vital part of D&amp;amp;D Wiki.  Even marking only 20 edits as patrolled every day would be extremely helpful with this never-ending task.&lt;br /&gt;
:I know this is really long-winded, so I'll keep the rest short.  You have more burden on youself now that you are an admin because users will be looking at you for editing help, knowledge of the standards, etc etc.  It's a bit more work, but I really hope you enjoy being an admin and I hope you decide to stay around on D&amp;amp;D Wiki for a while more to come.  Welcome to Adminship, again, as [[User:Dmilewski|Dmilewski]] once put it, you're now part of &amp;quot;The Face&amp;quot; of D&amp;amp;D Wiki.  --[[User:Green Dragon|Green Dragon]] 01:32, 23 January 2008 (MST)&lt;br /&gt;
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::Whew, much to work on.  Thank you, I'll hold the title with honor and oven mitts (honorable oven mitts). -- [[User:Eiji|Eiji]] 16:45, 23 January 2008 (MST)&lt;br /&gt;
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:::''':)'''.  --[[User:Green Dragon|Green Dragon]] 22:47, 23 January 2008 (MST)&lt;br /&gt;
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== User Page ==&lt;br /&gt;
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Nice user page.  I'm flattered.  BTW, I went digging through the &amp;lt;span class=&amp;quot;plainlinks&amp;quot;&amp;gt;[http://www.dandwiki.com/w/index.php?title=Special:Log&amp;amp;user=Eiji logs]&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt; and found the date you created your username on the wiki, and inserted the date in your page. —[[User:Sledged|Sledged]] ([[User talk:Sledged|talk]]) 16:08, 7 December 2007 (MST)&lt;br /&gt;
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:Domo arigato Mr. Sledgedboto. -- [[User:Eiji|Eiji]] 22:20, 7 December 2007 (MST)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Happy Bunny Picture ==&lt;br /&gt;
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:''Discussion moved to [[Talk:Happy Bunny (DnD Creature)#Picture]]&amp;lt;small&amp;gt;The discussion was related to the happy bunny, not Eiji&amp;amp;nbsp;--[[User:Green Dragon|Green Dragon]] 13:24, 24 December 2007 (MST)&amp;lt;/small&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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== DBZ Conversion ==&lt;br /&gt;
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good luck with the state alchemist into D&amp;amp;D format, also very nice conversion of DBZ moves into D&amp;amp;D attacks.  {{Unsigned|Archangel|18:36, 10 February 2008 (MST)}}&lt;br /&gt;
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:Why thank you.  Eventually I'll work up that Superhuman/Super Saiyan prestige class at well.  I'm thinking epic. -- [[User:Eiji|Eiji]] 20:06, 10 February 2008 (MST)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Moving ==&lt;br /&gt;
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Trouble in the lands of reality, I have been and may still be only half here while I handle some terrible RL troubles.  I shall return in full, I promise.  -- [[User:Eiji|Eiji]] 14:55, 25 March 2008 (MDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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:Sounds good ''':)'''.  Thanks for keeping us updated.  --[[User:Green Dragon|Green Dragon]] 01:30, 26 March 2008 (MDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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::Alright, I'm back, mostly.  Time to ease back into posting flow. -- [[User:Eiji|Eiji]] 22:38, 10 April 2008 (MDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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==Thanks==&lt;br /&gt;
I never thanked you, You kinda helped get into the flow of this site, so i wanted to thank you for all your help.[[User:Summerscythe|Summerscythe]] 15:17, 29 May 2008 (MDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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:Awww, it's no problem.  Why, thank you.  ''':D'''  I hear you're trying to get the tavern hopping again (I'm in now actually, it's populated!) so I hope to see you in there soon. -- [[User:Eiji|Eiji]] 21:31, 29 May 2008 (MDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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== D&amp;amp;D Game ==&lt;br /&gt;
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Sorry, I alway played 2nd edition and im a little confused about how to do my char. Im not sure also if my characters concept suit you. Anyway if you could help me a little i would appreciate. With all grace to the mighty Eiji--[[User:Lord Dhazriel|Lord Dhazriel]] 23:52, 7 June 2008 (MDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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:Ah ha ha.  I'm not that great, but thank you.  Now, I will claim complete ignorance on 2e (I started in 3.5e) but I'll try to help where I can.  Unfortunately, where do I start?  The only major changes I can recall off hand is THAC0 turning into AC, weapon size changes, and spell changes.  There's more I'm sure of course, where do I start?&lt;br /&gt;
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:Anyway, hit me with your concept.  ''':D''' -- [[User:Eiji|Eiji]] 16:35, 8 June 2008 (MDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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:: You can find them on my [[User:Lord Dhazriel#Characters Concepts|user page]], by the way when the game begin.--[[User:Lord Dhazriel|Lord Dhazriel]] 17:23, 8 June 2008 (MDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Plushies!!! ==&lt;br /&gt;
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Hey dude can I post some racial feats I made for plushies?--[[User:Risek|Risek]] 12:54, 11 June 2008 (MDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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:Go for it.  ''':)''' -- [[User:Eiji|Eiji]] 16:33, 11 June 2008 (MDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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::Ok--[[User:Risek|Risek]] 21:51, 11 June 2008 (MDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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== EIJI!!!!!!!!!!!! ==&lt;br /&gt;
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Go to the tavern {{Unsigned|Risek}}&lt;br /&gt;
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:And again! --[[User:Daniel Draco|Daniel Draco]] 20:38, 24 November 2008 (MST)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Live Forever ==&lt;br /&gt;
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&amp;quot;Must convert self into D&amp;amp;D form, and live forever!&amp;quot;&lt;br /&gt;
lol watch out for inevitables XD --[[User:Jack Bread|Jack Bread]] 23:45, 20 July 2008 (MDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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== I had a question ==&lt;br /&gt;
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The Spell you made, Ell's Handy Homunculus, is awesome, but me and my roomie were wondering if a Plushie spellcaster (btw Plushies are my new favorite race) can make one and how, as they possess no blood of their own. Just a question.- Tripp Thorne&lt;br /&gt;
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:Thank you kindly.  You most certainly can use it.  Plushie blood is stuffing, so you can use that to supplement for the blood component.&lt;br /&gt;
:(That's crazy!  I have blood!  It's right inside this sack of meat here!)&lt;br /&gt;
:Eiji Plushie, what are you doing, I'm not a sack of mEAATAAAGAGHJHFJOHHWFJHKJAWHjk3rjafsf&lt;br /&gt;
:...-- [[User:Eiji|Eiji]] 15:17, 20 August 2008 (MDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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::Another quick question: Is it cool if I post some Plushy Feats I've been working on? - Tripp Thorne&lt;br /&gt;
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:::Go for it! -- [[User:Eiji|Eiji]] 09:27, 22 August 2008 (MDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Question: Bladed Fan ==&lt;br /&gt;
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My question concerns this: ''&amp;quot;Larger or smaller fans create larger or smaller effects. It is the maximum amount of damage your fan is capable of down one '''size category'''. (A Large fan, dealing 1d6 damage, creates a 5 mph wind every +1, and a Small fan, dealing 1d3, does 2 mph).&amp;quot;''&lt;br /&gt;
Is that simply supposed to be the maximum damage of the weapon -1? I ask because &amp;quot;5&amp;quot; isn't a maximum damage of any weapon at any size category. I also ask because gargantuan and colossal fans get out of hand pretty quickly (2d6 gargantuan would produce 11mph per point of strength bonus, producing tornado winds with only a strength modifier of +16. And a colossal version would be even easier to produce tornado winds with (strength modifier +11; keeping even gargantuan and colossal creatures checked).&lt;br /&gt;
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And, lastly, does the full round action provoke attacks of opportunity? --Nox_Noctis&lt;br /&gt;
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:Good catch there, looks like I mixed up some of the old text with the new text when I had it based on a different system, and ended up making it even more confusing.  It happens, and now its fixed, making it difficult to use, and provoking AoOs to prevent abuses from very strong PCs with huge Str scores and huger fans.  I've made the alterations and clarifications needed.  -- [[User:Eiji|Eiji]] 00:15, 26 August 2008 (MDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Question: Kopiko Draw Spell-like Ability ==&lt;br /&gt;
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How is the Will (''save''; word left out in the race entry) DC determined? Which ability modifier does it use? --Nox_Noctis&lt;br /&gt;
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:Default is always 10 + 1/2 HD + [[Cha]], btu I'll go clarify that now. -- [[User:Eiji|Eiji]] 13:55, 26 August 2008 (MDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Question about the Domain Time Warp ==&lt;br /&gt;
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Hello, my name is Santiago Mendez, my user name is Sarrow. I was wondering if I could use your cleric domain Time Warp for a Deity that I am making? -[[User:Sarrow|Sarrow]] 15:35, 11 September 2008 (MDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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:By all means.  ''':D'''  Everything on the Wiki is free to use.  I'm flattered you like my work, by all means.  -- [[User:Eiji|Eiji]] 07:38, 14 September 2008 (MDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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::Yeah, the deity is Aetas, the Father of Time. -[[User:Sarrow|Sarrow]] 14:14, 14 September 2008 (MDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Nezumi ==&lt;br /&gt;
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Thanks for the info; I wasn't sure there was a nezumi so I decided to make one.--[[User:Archangel|Arael]] 17:21, 19 September 2008 (MDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Barnstar ==&lt;br /&gt;
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{{Anti-Vandal Barnstar|This one is for reverting the childish edits to the Chuck Norris page so quickly.  The page always seems to attract vandals, and Eiji was quick to get it reverted. --[[User:Aarnott|Aarnott]] 11:24, 22 July 2008 (MDT) }}&lt;br /&gt;
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== AHHHHHHH!!!! ==&lt;br /&gt;
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AHHHH! AHHHHH!!!! What am I doing?? I don't know! You wrote on my page and I wanted to write back! Eiji! I want to draw Lord Eiji for his page on the wiki at some point, if you don't mind. I realize I've committed to drawing a whole pile of things already, but I want to add that one to the list because I saw he had not picture yet and I thought it would be fun to draw. AHHHH!!!! --[[User:Lumi|Lumi]] 20:28, 25 October 2008 (MDT)Lumi&lt;br /&gt;
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:AAAAHHHH!!!!!!  AAAAAAAAHHHHHHH!!!!  OMG AAAAAHHHHH!!!!  Lord Eiji, holy crap yes, AAAHHHHH!!!!  I shall PM you pictures of his plush continence, just add wings and ears and tail, and then DELICIOUSNESS!  Go on, I dare you to SHOW ME YOUR MOVES!  YES!&lt;br /&gt;
:LUMI PAWNCH! -- [[User:Eiji|Eiji]] 21:04, 25 October 2008 (MDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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::AHHH!!!!  You dared me and I did it!  Mostly!  But you are asleep!!!!!!  NOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!  &lt;br /&gt;
::Now I have to wait until tomorrow to find out what you think! --[[User:Lumi|Lumi]] 02:27, 27 October 2008 (MDT)Lumi&lt;br /&gt;
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:::AAAAAHHHHHHH!!!!!!  King Eiji is preparing a SOLAR PLUSHIE PAWWWWWNCH!  You have won INTERNETS and LONGCATS!  TOP SCORE!!!  -- [[User:Eiji|Eiji]] 09:44, 27 October 2008 (MDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Spellborg Feat==&lt;br /&gt;
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Hey I made this in a moment of creativity. [[Improved Spellborg (DnD Feat)|Improved Spellborg]] I hope you don't mind. Tell me what you think of it. --[[User:Lord Dhazriel|Lord Dhazriel]] 13:51, 30 October 2008 (MDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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:Hmmm, interesting.  I'll look at the balance later, but the concept of expanding template powers with feats is novel. -- [[User:Eiji|Eiji]] 20:22, 30 October 2008 (MDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Sky Eye and the Clockwork subtype ==&lt;br /&gt;
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I looked at your creature entry for [[Sky Eye (DnD Creature)]] and there was no accompanying link for the clockwork subtype. Also, what does Locomotion and Observation do for a Sky Eye?&lt;br /&gt;
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:The short of it is that Locomotion and Observation are the subjects it is allowed to act &amp;quot;intelligent&amp;quot; on, using it's Cha as Int for the purposes of movement and watching things, so it won't easily be tricked by a wall in the way or by someone hiding, and it'll remember.  However, for all other subjects, say, combat, it's generic construct programming.  &amp;quot;I hit it again!&amp;quot; -- [[User:Eiji|Eiji]] 15:52, 17 November 2008 (MST)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Nomination ==&lt;br /&gt;
Hello, I've recently opened up a Request for Adminship for myself at [[Requests for Adminship/Hooper]], and as an admin yourself, would greatly appreciate your input, suggestions, thoughts, or general comments.  Thanks. &amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;lt;small&amp;gt;&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;border: 1px solid blue; -moz-border-radius:10px&amp;quot;&amp;gt;[[User:Hooper|'''&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;background-color:White; color:FireBrick; -moz-border-radius-topleft:10px; -moz-border-radius-bottomleft:10px&amp;quot;&amp;gt;  Hooper  &amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;''']][[User talk:Hooper|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;background-color:red; color:blue; -moz-border-radius-bottomleft:10px; -moz-border-radius-topleft:10px&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;amp;nbsp;talk&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]][[Special:Contributions/Hooper|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;background-color:red; color:blue&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;amp;nbsp;contribs&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]][[Special:Emailuser/Hooper|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;background-color:red; color:blue; -moz-border-radius-bottomright:10px; -moz-border-radius-topright:10px&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;amp;nbsp;email&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]]&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;&amp;lt;/small&amp;gt; 19:21, 16 December 2008 (MST)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Plushie 4e? ==&lt;br /&gt;
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Hey Eiji, I was wondering if you were planning on making plushies 4e. there would need to be some serious reworking of it but i love the idea of them. I would really like just at least the race, and the Go boom as an encounter power. [[User:Master K|Master K]] 16:51, 8 April 2009 (MDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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:As is, I am not a 4e player.  However, if someone with the know how wishes to, I give you permission to translate them into 4e mechanics.  Hee hee hee.  -- [[User:Eiji|Eiji]] 19:54, 8 April 2009 (MDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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::I am not too good at it and i will give it a try, is this an invatation to anyone or just me? [[User:Master K|Master K]] 19:58, 8 April 2009 (MDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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:::Anyone.  Know any 4e gurus?  -- [[User:Eiji|Eiji]] 21:37, 8 April 2009 (MDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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:::: [[User:Sepsis|Sepsis]] or [[User:Sam Kay|Sam Kay]], both made 4e featured article. Maybe they want to help. --[[User:Lord Dhazriel|Lord Dhazriel]] 22:18, 8 April 2009 (MDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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:::::Just so you know, [[User:Sam Kay|Sam Kay]] finished the conversion. Here it is.[[Eijilund_Plushies_(4e_Race)|Eijilund Plushies(4e Race)]][[User:Master K|Master K]] 16:16, 7 July 2009 (MDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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== AdminBadge ==&lt;br /&gt;
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I'd like to label you as an admin with the &amp;lt;s&amp;gt;&amp;lt;nowiki&amp;gt;[[Template:AdminBadge]]&amp;lt;/nowiki&amp;gt;&amp;lt;/s&amp;gt; on your user page. If you have a reason you don't think you should have the badge or you don't think the badge is a good idea, please discuss it on the badge's [[Template talk:AdminBadge|discussion]]. -[[User:Valentine the Rogue|Valentine the Rogue]] 16:06, 11 April 2009 (MDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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:Coo' with me bro. -- [[User:Eiji|Eiji]] 20:54, 11 April 2009 (MDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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==I Missz Youz==&lt;br /&gt;
Eiji... I missz youz...  --[[User:Jay Freedman|Jay Freedman]] 22:59, 28 August 2009 (MDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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:I has a fan.  :)  Well no loss, I intend to have great comedy with all my derelict pages now. -- [[User:Eiji|Eiji]] 23:07, 28 August 2009 (MDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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::Good!  I was hoping you wouldn't just up and leave.  This place needs a person like you hanging around.  Much Luvz and Kizz'z.  --[[User:Jay Freedman|Jay Freedman]] 23:12, 28 August 2009 (MDT)(I am totally just kidding about the Luvz and Kizz'z.  Ok...)&lt;br /&gt;
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:::But how will I be able to fulfill my secret fantasies about you without the luvz and kizz'z?  :O&lt;br /&gt;
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:::Wait, those aren't the ancient eldritch words for death and destruction?  Oops.  Anyway, yeah, I'm leaving links everywhere where you can find my actual stuff now. -- [[User:Eiji|Eiji]] 23:14, 28 August 2009 (MDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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::::{{quote&lt;br /&gt;
|I intend to have great comedy with all my derelict pages now.|size=120px&lt;br /&gt;
|orig=Sir [[User:Eiji|Eiji]]&lt;br /&gt;
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::::I truly hope the above isn't a reference to any possible premeditated vandalism. &amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;lt;small&amp;gt;&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;border: 1px solid black; -moz-border-radius:10px&amp;quot;&amp;gt;[[User:Hooper|'''&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;background-color:White; color:Black; -moz-border-radius-topleft:10px; -moz-border-radius-bottomleft:10px&amp;quot;&amp;gt;  Hooper  &amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;''']][[User talk:Hooper|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;background-color:Black; color:white; -moz-border-radius-bottomleft:10px; -moz-border-radius-topleft:10px&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;amp;nbsp;talk&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]][[Special:Contributions/Hooper|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;background-color:black; color:white&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;amp;nbsp;contribs&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]][[Special:Emailuser/Hooper|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;background-color:black; color:white; -moz-border-radius-bottomright:10px; -moz-border-radius-topright:10px&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;amp;nbsp;email&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]]&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;&amp;lt;/small&amp;gt; 10:27, 29 August 2009 (MDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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:::::Look at the changes Eiji's made. Everything is still functional with an added bit of tongue-in-cheek humor. -- [[User:Jota|Jota]] 10:31, 29 August 2009 (MDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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::::::Heh, I always found the concept of self-vandalizing to be nonsensical.  It's like... self-theft.  You really CAN'T do it.  But no, this is insurance.  I do not want a repeat of Sulacu, where they decide simply to steal your name off your work.  All this stuff will be mine.  All this stuff will be workable.  However, as in reflection to the feeling of this site, I will not be terribly serious.  If you're looking for classes appropriate for Serious Business d20 Wikia is there for that.  This is now Lolcat d20.  Expect lolcats and lol wut pears and running bears having a seat over there. -- [[User:Eiji|Eiji]] 20:19, 29 August 2009 (MDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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:::::::No, this wiki is '''not''' a joke.  Treat it with respect. &amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;lt;small&amp;gt;&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;border: 1px solid black; -moz-border-radius:10px&amp;quot;&amp;gt;[[User:Hooper|'''&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;background-color:White; color:Black; -moz-border-radius-topleft:10px; -moz-border-radius-bottomleft:10px&amp;quot;&amp;gt;  Hooper  &amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;''']][[User talk:Hooper|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;background-color:Black; color:white; -moz-border-radius-bottomleft:10px; -moz-border-radius-topleft:10px&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;amp;nbsp;talk&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]][[Special:Contributions/Hooper|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;background-color:black; color:white&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;amp;nbsp;contribs&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]][[Special:Emailuser/Hooper|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;background-color:black; color:white; -moz-border-radius-bottomright:10px; -moz-border-radius-topright:10px&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;amp;nbsp;email&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]]&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;&amp;lt;/small&amp;gt; 21:29, 29 August 2009 (MDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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::::::::Why so serious?  :D  *Jokergrin*  If you have a problem with humor, that's what April Fools is there for.  You can put it on everything yourself if you want, I don't feel the need to bother.  Or, if you're telling me that joke pages are bad, may I suggest asking Green Dragon to change policy and remove the April Fools category.&lt;br /&gt;
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::::::::Just don't get banned while asking.  ;) -- [[User:Eiji|Eiji]] 21:41, 29 August 2009 (MDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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:::::::::Hooper, take a chill pill.  Its his original Shizz'nits.  I kinda like the changes too. This is not a negative thing.  Its a Luvz and Kizz'z thang'.  --[[User:Jay Freedman|Jay Freedman]] 21:56, 29 August 2009 (MDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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:When someone says ''&amp;quot;Serious Business d20 Wikia is there for that.  This is now Lolcat d20.&amp;quot;'' it is completely clear that they are belittling this wiki's place, and establishing a clear intention to make less of it - even if only through their own articles.  This is not acceptable on any level, and it is a very negative thing. &amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;lt;small&amp;gt;&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;border: 1px solid black; -moz-border-radius:10px&amp;quot;&amp;gt;[[User:Hooper|'''&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;background-color:White; color:Black; -moz-border-radius-topleft:10px; -moz-border-radius-bottomleft:10px&amp;quot;&amp;gt;  Hooper  &amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;''']][[User talk:Hooper|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;background-color:Black; color:white; -moz-border-radius-bottomleft:10px; -moz-border-radius-topleft:10px&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;amp;nbsp;talk&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]][[Special:Contributions/Hooper|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;background-color:black; color:white&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;amp;nbsp;contribs&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]][[Special:Emailuser/Hooper|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;background-color:black; color:white; -moz-border-radius-bottomright:10px; -moz-border-radius-topright:10px&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;amp;nbsp;email&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]]&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;&amp;lt;/small&amp;gt; 22:15, 29 August 2009 (MDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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:: You aren't familiar with Eiji's madness aren't you? --[[User:Lord Dhazriel|Dhazriel]] 22:21, 29 August 2009 (MDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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:::Actually, I am.  Which is why I said above that I hoped his statements wouldn't lead to vandalism, whether he is conscious of it or not.  His &amp;quot;madness&amp;quot; as you put it should not be allowed to deteriorate this wiki, even if he is a nice guy. &amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;lt;small&amp;gt;&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;border: 1px solid black; -moz-border-radius:10px&amp;quot;&amp;gt;[[User:Hooper|'''&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;background-color:White; color:Black; -moz-border-radius-topleft:10px; -moz-border-radius-bottomleft:10px&amp;quot;&amp;gt;  Hooper  &amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;''']][[User talk:Hooper|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;background-color:Black; color:white; -moz-border-radius-bottomleft:10px; -moz-border-radius-topleft:10px&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;amp;nbsp;talk&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]][[Special:Contributions/Hooper|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;background-color:black; color:white&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;amp;nbsp;contribs&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]][[Special:Emailuser/Hooper|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;background-color:black; color:white; -moz-border-radius-bottomright:10px; -moz-border-radius-topright:10px&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;amp;nbsp;email&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]]&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;&amp;lt;/small&amp;gt; 22:24, 29 August 2009 (MDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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::::I made Sheep the Head and Lord Eiji the god of gumdrops from the heavens.  That was before the Wikipocalypse.  Tell me, have I belittled the Wiki?  What of the Farmer and Cheerleader (which brings to question how to I alternative those... maybe I'll make them DEAD SERIOUS BUSINESS or something).  Those belittling too?&lt;br /&gt;
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::::I ask you this because it's important.  Technically, I have no use for my work being here anymore.  I'd like to have it deleted.  BUT I CAN'T, due to a very silly ruling.  Rather than fight the power, I'll play along and do what I can do.  One thing I can do it see what happens when I want to run my sillier games but need solid mechanics behind it.  It's called reflavoring.&lt;br /&gt;
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::::Like I said, take time out of your life to April Fools it all if it offends you so.  I don't mind, really.  Anyway, you'll still have quality posters here like Jason Bagby if you need serious business.&lt;br /&gt;
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::::... ok, that last part WAS a joke.  XD  Laugh it off.  -- [[User:Eiji|Eiji]] 22:43, 29 August 2009 (MDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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:::::Wow Hooper, I wish you had this sort of zeal back when our copyright was being violated! [[User:Surgo|Surgo]] 08:48, 30 August 2009 (MDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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Hey Eiji, My name is James and I found D&amp;amp;D Wiki, and your page by yahoo search while looking for a D&amp;amp;D Saiyan Race. Ive been working on my own version for some time, and after reading what you came up with, Id very much like to be able to have a conversation at length with you over messenger and show you what Ive got so far and see what you think about it and maybe get some feedback. I'll check back here to see what you have to say. I look foward to hearing from you soon!&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
		<author><name>Surgo</name></author>	</entry>

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		<title>Deviant (3.5e Class)</title>
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		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;Surgo: Yes it is. Part 4 (Modifications), section B.&lt;/p&gt;
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&lt;div&gt;{{Featured Article}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{DnD Base Class Infobox&lt;br /&gt;
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|imgcaption=An old deviant, reading and mulling&lt;br /&gt;
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|rating_wording=5&lt;br /&gt;
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|raters_wording=3&lt;br /&gt;
|raters_formatting=2&lt;br /&gt;
|raters_flavor=3&lt;br /&gt;
|authors=[[User:Sulacu|Sulacu]]&lt;br /&gt;
|datecreated=November 8, 2007&lt;br /&gt;
|adopters=[[User:Jota|Jota]]&lt;br /&gt;
|dateadopted=August 25, 2009&lt;br /&gt;
|status=Complete&lt;br /&gt;
|editing=&lt;br /&gt;
|type=Strong Spellcasting, Skilled&lt;br /&gt;
|desc=A knower and deviner of the many secrets of the world&lt;br /&gt;
}}&lt;br /&gt;
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== The Deviant ==&lt;br /&gt;
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The nature of the universe is ever shifting. Mostly this nature passes by the people that live it, but there are certain individuals who devote their lives to this most exclusive of understanding. Through learning and experiences that may be religious, enlightening, ascetical or even purely for the self, the deviant gains unfathomable understanding of the world. His findings may seem trivial to most, but the tiniest smidgeon of lore, the smallest hint of life or growth, and the most inconspicuous omen may contribute to the Deviant’s preternatural senses. Through a constant search for understanding and self-renewal, the deviant learns to see with different eyes. The deviant practices things such as history, lore, philosophy and oratory performance. An esteemed and humble traveler and teller, two old eccentrics seeking mutual understanding over a game of chess, the devout that travels to the outer realms to petition his deity in order to reach a higher plane of understanding; these can all be deviants.&lt;br /&gt;
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The name deviant comes from the fact that the deviant’s outlook on life, philosophy and way of living are mostly always different from the law abiding city folk, whereas also veering from the selfish desires of the self-serving. They bear the name deviant with a sense of well mannered and restrained pride.&lt;br /&gt;
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=== Making a Deviant ===&lt;br /&gt;
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Deviants aren’t combatants, nor are they handymen. They are observers of the highest tier, seeking patterns in life and distilling their experiences to gain knowledge. They discern, detect and reveal, preferably without having to bash or render the entire area to flame. The deviant seeks a strange form of balance between inward focus and interaction with comrades, since in both of these things can be found wisdom and understanding. Especially in areas rife with magical effects, a deviant is invaluable; their many methods of observation help them to see things that other characters usually miss. Deviants have a strange hardiness to effects of the mind and the body and their integral understanding of both arcane and divine magic through their spellcraft grants them a nearly unsurpassed resilience to such forces. A deviant lets a place he travels to touch him, but he does not touch them. A deviant is respect without either strong adherence or compulsive obsession.&lt;br /&gt;
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The deviant is a class that encourages pure roleplaying, and that is campaign specific to an extent of the campaign’s immersive quality. Detailed campaigns where interaction, intrigue and mystery are the most important pivots, campaigns with a detailed background and well designed and full systems of society and pantheons, will benefit the most from this class, and will benefit this class the most in turn. Despite this, the deviant is not helpless when it comes to combat situations, his insight and senses often alerting him to dangers before they strike. &lt;br /&gt;
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In life, deviants are often rugged philosophers, no amount of grime on their leather explorer outfit deterring them from the next insightful revelation on their lifetime journey. Their versatile skill sets and travelworn nature make them easily more capable than a wizard or a sorcerer when on the road, even though life's many peculiarities may more frequently halt their steps.&lt;br /&gt;
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'''Abilities:''' [[Wisdom]] is very important for the deviant, as it represents his ability to make sense of the inherent chaos of nature, or the order of civilization. [[Wisdom]] allows them to sieve the understanding from their quandary and apply it on the challenges they face, as well as increasing their perception as well as their spells. [[Charisma]] is important for the portion of a deviant’s interaction with friend and foe alike. Furthermore, [[Intelligence]] is a boon for the knowledge that the deviant requires in many different areas of his discipline.&lt;br /&gt;
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'''Races:''' Amidst almost every sentient race of creatures, you will find those few individuals that devote a lifetime to understand. Whether it is their own civilization, the world or concepts such as life and death they wish to understand, such individuals may be deviants. Hence, deviants can occur within any demographic.&lt;br /&gt;
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'''Alignment:''' Any [[neutral]].&lt;br /&gt;
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'''Starting Gold:''' 1d4&amp;amp;times;10 gp.&lt;br /&gt;
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'''Starting Age:''' Complex&lt;br /&gt;
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{| class=&amp;quot;{{d20}}&amp;quot;&lt;br /&gt;
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Hit Die: d6&lt;br /&gt;
|-&lt;br /&gt;
! rowspan=&amp;quot;2&amp;quot; | Level&lt;br /&gt;
! rowspan=&amp;quot;2&amp;quot; | [[BAB|Base&amp;lt;br/&amp;gt;Attack Bonus]]&lt;br /&gt;
! colspan=&amp;quot;3&amp;quot; | [[SRD:Saving Throw|Saving Throw]]s&lt;br /&gt;
! rowspan=&amp;quot;2&amp;quot; | Special&lt;br /&gt;
! colspan=&amp;quot;10&amp;quot; | [[#Spells|Spells per Day]]&lt;br /&gt;
|-&lt;br /&gt;
! [[SRD:Saving Throw#Fortitude|Fort]] || [[SRD:Saving Throw#Reflex|Ref]] || [[SRD:Saving Throw#Will|Will]]&lt;br /&gt;
! 0 || 1&amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;st&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; || 2&amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;nd&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; || 3&amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;rd&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; || 4&amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;th&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; || 5&amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;th&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; || 6&amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;th&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; || 7&amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;th&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; || 8&amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;th&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; || 9&amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;th&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
|- class=&amp;quot;{{Odd-Even}}&amp;quot;&lt;br /&gt;
|1st|| class=&amp;quot;left&amp;quot; | +0 || +0 || +0 || +2&lt;br /&gt;
| class=&amp;quot;left&amp;quot; | [[#Planar Turning|Planar Turning]]&lt;br /&gt;
|2||1||—||—||—||—||—||—||—||—&lt;br /&gt;
|- class=&amp;quot;{{Odd-Even}}&amp;quot;&lt;br /&gt;
|2nd|| class=&amp;quot;left&amp;quot; | +1 || +0 || +0 || +3&lt;br /&gt;
| class=&amp;quot;left&amp;quot; | [[#Deviant Perception|Deviant Perception]]&lt;br /&gt;
|2||2||—||—||—||—||—||—||—||—&lt;br /&gt;
|- class=&amp;quot;{{Odd-Even}}&amp;quot;&lt;br /&gt;
|3rd|| class=&amp;quot;left&amp;quot; | +2 || +1 || +1 || +3&lt;br /&gt;
| class=&amp;quot;left&amp;quot; | [[#Deviant Perception|Deviant Perception]] (''[[Detect Evil (SRD Spell)|alignment]]'')&lt;br /&gt;
|3||2||1||—||—||—||—||—||—||—&lt;br /&gt;
|- class=&amp;quot;{{Odd-Even}}&amp;quot;&lt;br /&gt;
|4th||class=&amp;quot;left&amp;quot; | +3 || +1 || +1 || +4&lt;br /&gt;
| class=&amp;quot;left&amp;quot; | [[#Banishing Strike|Banishing Strike]]&lt;br /&gt;
|3||2||2||—||—||—||—||—||—||—&lt;br /&gt;
|- class=&amp;quot;{{Odd-Even}}&amp;quot;&lt;br /&gt;
|5th||class=&amp;quot;left&amp;quot; | +3 || +1 || +1 || +4&lt;br /&gt;
| class=&amp;quot;left&amp;quot; | [[#Deviant Insight|Deviant Insight]] +1&lt;br /&gt;
|3||3||2||1||—||—||—||—||—||—&lt;br /&gt;
|- class=&amp;quot;{{Odd-Even}}&amp;quot;&lt;br /&gt;
|6th||class=&amp;quot;left&amp;quot; | +4 || +2 || +2 || +5&lt;br /&gt;
| class=&amp;quot;left&amp;quot; | [[#Deviant Perception|Deviant Perception]] (''[[SRD:Discern Lies|lies]]'')&lt;br /&gt;
|3||3||2||2||—||—||—||—||—||—&lt;br /&gt;
|- class=&amp;quot;{{Odd-Even}}&amp;quot;&lt;br /&gt;
|7th||class=&amp;quot;left&amp;quot; | +5 || +2 || +2 || +5&lt;br /&gt;
| class=&amp;quot;left&amp;quot; | [[#Planar Mastery|Planar Mastery]]&lt;br /&gt;
|3||3||3||2||1||—||—||—||—||—&lt;br /&gt;
|- class=&amp;quot;{{Odd-Even}}&amp;quot;&lt;br /&gt;
|8th||class=&amp;quot;left&amp;quot; | +6/+1 || +2 || +2 || +6&lt;br /&gt;
| class=&amp;quot;left&amp;quot; | [[#Reach Out|Reach Out]]&lt;br /&gt;
|4||3||3||2||2||—||—||—||—||—&lt;br /&gt;
|- class=&amp;quot;{{Odd-Even}}&amp;quot;&lt;br /&gt;
|9th||class=&amp;quot;left&amp;quot; | +6/+1 || +3 || +3 || +6&lt;br /&gt;
| class=&amp;quot;left&amp;quot; | [[#Deviant Perception|Deviant Perception]] (''[[SRD:Detect Thoughts|thoughts]]'')&lt;br /&gt;
|4||3||3||3||2||1||—||—||—||—&lt;br /&gt;
|- class=&amp;quot;{{Odd-Even}}&amp;quot;&lt;br /&gt;
|10th||class=&amp;quot;left&amp;quot; | +7/+2 || +3 || +3 || +7&lt;br /&gt;
| class=&amp;quot;left&amp;quot; | [[#Greater Planar Turning|Greater Planar Turning]], [[#Deviant Insight|Deviant Insight]] +2&lt;br /&gt;
|4||4||3||3||2||2||—||—||—||—&lt;br /&gt;
|- class=&amp;quot;{{Odd-Even}}&amp;quot;&lt;br /&gt;
|11th||class=&amp;quot;left&amp;quot; | +8/+3 || +3 || +3 || +7&lt;br /&gt;
| class=&amp;quot;left&amp;quot; | [[#True Sight|True Sight]]&lt;br /&gt;
|4||4||3||3||3||2||1||—||—||—&lt;br /&gt;
|- class=&amp;quot;{{Odd-Even}}&amp;quot;&lt;br /&gt;
|12th||class=&amp;quot;left&amp;quot; | +9/+4 || +4 || +4 || +8&lt;br /&gt;
| class=&amp;quot;left&amp;quot; | [[#Commune|Commune]] 1/day, [[#Deviant Perception|Deviant Perception]] (''[[SRD:Arcane Sight|arcane sight]]'')&lt;br /&gt;
|4||4||4||3||3||2||2||—||—||—&lt;br /&gt;
|- class=&amp;quot;{{Odd-Even}}&amp;quot;&lt;br /&gt;
|13th||class=&amp;quot;left&amp;quot; | +9/+4 || +4 || +4 || +8&lt;br /&gt;
| class=&amp;quot;left&amp;quot; | [[#Greater Planar Mastery|Greater Planar Mastery]]&lt;br /&gt;
|4||4||4||3||3||3||2||1||—||—&lt;br /&gt;
|- class=&amp;quot;{{Odd-Even}}&amp;quot;&lt;br /&gt;
|14th||class=&amp;quot;left&amp;quot; | +10/+5 || +4 || +4 || +9&lt;br /&gt;
| class=&amp;quot;left&amp;quot; | [[#Planar Barring|Planar Barring]]&lt;br /&gt;
|4||4||4||4||3||3||2||2||—||—&lt;br /&gt;
|- class=&amp;quot;{{Odd-Even}}&amp;quot;&lt;br /&gt;
|15th||class=&amp;quot;left&amp;quot; | +11/+6/+1 || +5 || +5 || +9&lt;br /&gt;
| class=&amp;quot;left&amp;quot; | [[#Deviant Insight|Deviant Insight]] +3&lt;br /&gt;
|5||4||4||4||3||3||3||2||1||—&lt;br /&gt;
|- class=&amp;quot;{{Odd-Even}}&amp;quot;&lt;br /&gt;
|16th||class=&amp;quot;left&amp;quot; | +12/+7/+2 || +5 || +5 || +10&lt;br /&gt;
| class=&amp;quot;left&amp;quot; | [[#Commune|Commune]] 2/day&lt;br /&gt;
|5||4||4||4||4||3||3||2||2||—&lt;br /&gt;
|- class=&amp;quot;{{Odd-Even}}&amp;quot;&lt;br /&gt;
|17th||class=&amp;quot;left&amp;quot; | +12/+7/+2 || +5 || +5 || +10&lt;br /&gt;
| class=&amp;quot;left&amp;quot; | [[#Timeless Communion|Timeless Communion]]&lt;br /&gt;
|5||5||4||4||4||3||3||3||2||1&lt;br /&gt;
|- class=&amp;quot;{{Odd-Even}}&amp;quot;&lt;br /&gt;
|18th||class=&amp;quot;left&amp;quot; | +13/+8/+3 || +6 || +6 || +11&lt;br /&gt;
| class=&amp;quot;left&amp;quot; | [[#True Sight|Greater True Sight]], [[#Deviant Perception|Deviant Perception]] (''[[SRD:Analyze Dweomer|analyze dweomer]]'')&lt;br /&gt;
|5||5||4||4||4||4||3||3||2||2&lt;br /&gt;
|- class=&amp;quot;{{Odd-Even}}&amp;quot;&lt;br /&gt;
|19th||class=&amp;quot;left&amp;quot; | +14/+9/+4 || +6 || +6 || +11&lt;br /&gt;
| class=&amp;quot;left&amp;quot; | [[#Supreme Planar Mastery|Supreme Planar Mastery]]&lt;br /&gt;
|5||5||5||4||4||4||3||3||3||2&lt;br /&gt;
|- class=&amp;quot;{{Odd-Even}}&amp;quot;&lt;br /&gt;
|20th||class=&amp;quot;left&amp;quot; | +15/+10/+5 || +6 || +6 || +12&lt;br /&gt;
| class=&amp;quot;left&amp;quot; | [[#Commune|Commune]] 3/day, [[#Deviant Insight|Deviant Insight]] +4&lt;br /&gt;
|5||5||5||4||4||4||4||3||3||3&lt;br /&gt;
|-&lt;br /&gt;
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'''Class Skills (8 + [[Int]] modifier per level, &amp;amp;times;4 at 1st level)'''&amp;lt;br/&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
[[Bluff]] ([[Cha]]), [[Concentration]] ([[Con]]), [[Craft]] ([[Int]]), [[Decipher Script]] ([[Int]]), [[Disguise]] ([[Cha]]), [[Diplomacy]] ([[Cha]]), [[Gather Information]] ([[Cha]]), [[Heal]] ([[Wis]]), [[Knowledge]] (all skills taken individually) ([[Int]]), [[Profession]] ([[Wis]]), [[Listen]] ([[Wis]]), [[Perform]] ([[Cha]]), [[Search]] ([[Int]]), [[Sense Motive]] ([[Wis]]), [[Spellcraft]] ([[Int]]), [[Spot]] ([[Wis]]), [[Survival]] ([[Wis]]).&lt;br /&gt;
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==== Class Features ====&lt;br /&gt;
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All of the following are class features of the deviant.&lt;br /&gt;
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'''Weapon and Armor Proficiency:''' Deviants are proficient with all simple weapons, and with one martial or exotic weapon of their choice. If the chosen weapon is exotic, the deviant gains [[Exotic Weapon Proficiency]] for that weapon for free at 1st level.&lt;br /&gt;
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Deviants are proficient with light and medium armor, but not with shields.&lt;br /&gt;
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'''{{#anc:Spells}}:''' A deviant casts spells that are divine in nature. Deviants specialize in [[SRD:Divination School|divination]], although they can also cast some spells from other schools (mostly [[SRD:Universal School|universal]] spells and spells from the [[SRD:Abjuration School|abjuration]] school). See the [[#Deviant Spell List|deviant spell list]] for what spells are available to the deviant.&lt;br /&gt;
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To prepare or cast a spell, a deviant must have a [[Wisdom]] score equal to at least 10 + the spell level. The DC for a saving throw against a deviant’s spell is 10 + the spell level + the deviant's [[Wisdom]] modifier.&lt;br /&gt;
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Like other spellcasters, a deviant can cast only a certain number of spells of each spell level per day. His base daily spell allotment is given on [[#Table Deviant|Table: The Deviant]]. In addition, he receives bonus spells per day if he has a high [[Wisdom]] score. A high score however doesn't allow him to learn spells of a higher level than that he knows.&lt;br /&gt;
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Deviants choose their spells from the following list:&lt;br /&gt;
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0&amp;amp;mdash;''[[SRD:Detect Magic|detect magic]]'', ''[[SRD:Detect Poison|detect poison]]'', ''[[SRD:Guidance|guidance]]'', ''[[SRD:Light|light]]'', ''[[SRD:Prestidigitation|prestidigitation]]'', ''[[SRD:Read Magic|read magic]]'', ''[[SRD:Resistance|resistance]]''.&lt;br /&gt;
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1st&amp;amp;mdash;''[[SRD:Comprehend Languages|comprehend languages]]'', ''[[SRD:Deathwatch|deathwatch]]'', ''[[SRD:Detect Animals or Plants|detect animals or plants]]'', ''[[SRD:Detect Chaos|detect chaos]]/[[SRD:Detect Evil|evil]]/[[SRD:Detect Good|good]]/[[SRD:Detect Law|law]]'', ''[[SRD:Detect Secret Doors|detect secret doors]]'', ''[[SRD:Detect Snares and Pits|detect snares and pits]]'', ''[[SRD:Detect Undead|detect undead]]'', ''[[SRD:Endure Elements|endure elements]]'', ''[[SRD:Hide from Undead|hide from undead]]'', ''[[SRD:Identify|identify]]'', ''[[SRD:Protection from Chaos|protection from chaos]]/[[SRD:Protection from Evil|evil]]/[[SRD:Protection from Good|good]]/[[SRD:Protection from Law|law]]'', ''[[SRD:Sanctuary|sanctuary]]''.&lt;br /&gt;
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2nd&amp;amp;mdash;''[[SRD:Augury|augury]]'', ''[[SRD:Detect Thoughts|detect thoughts]]'', ''[[SRD:Locate Object|locate object]]'', ''[[SRD:Find Traps|find traps]]'', ''[[SRD:Obscure Object|obscure object]]'', ''[[SRD:Resist Energy|resist energy]]'', ''[[SRD:See Invisibility|see invisibility]]'', ''[[SRD:Status|status]]'', ''[[SRD:Undetectable Alignment|undetectable alignment]]''.&lt;br /&gt;
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3rd&amp;amp;mdash;''[[SRD:Arcane Sight|arcane sight]]'', ''[[SRD:Clairaudience/Clairvoyance|clairaudience/clairvoyance]]'', ''[[SRD:Dispel Magic|dispel magic]]'', ''[[SRD:Magic Circle against Chaos|magic circle against chaos]]/[[SRD:Magic Circle against Evil|evil]]/[[SRD:Magic Circle against Good|good]]/[[SRD:Magic Circle against Law|law]]'', ''[[SRD:Nondetection|nondetection]]'', ''[[SRD:Protection from Energy|protection from energy]]'', ''[[SRD:Remove Curse|remove curse]]'', ''[[SRD:Remove Disease|remove disease]]'', ''[[SRD:Speak with Dead|speak with dead]]'', ''[[SRD:Speak with Plants|speak with plants]]'', ''[[SRD:Tongues|tongues]]''.&lt;br /&gt;
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4th&amp;amp;mdash;''[[SRD:Arcane Eye|arcane eye]]'', ''[[SRD:Death Ward|death ward]]'', ''[[SRD:Detect Scrying|detect scrying]]'', ''[[SRD:Dimensional Anchor|dimensional anchor]]'', ''[[SRD:Discern Lies|discern lies]]'', ''[[SRD:Dismissal|dismissal]]'', ''[[SRD:Divination|divination]]'', ''[[SRD:Lesser Globe of Invulnerability|lesser globe of invulnerability]]'', ''[[SRD:Lesser Planar Ally|lesser planar ally]]'', ''[[SRD:Locate Creature|locate creature]]'', ''[[SRD:Sending|sending]]'', ''[[SRD:Scrying|scrying]]''.&lt;br /&gt;
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5th&amp;amp;mdash;''[[SRD:Analyze Dweomer|analyze dweomer]]'', ''[[SRD:Commune|commune]]'', ''[[SRD:Commune with Nature|commune with nature]]'', ''[[SRD:Contact Other Plane|contact other plane]]'', ''[[SRD:Dispel Chaos|dispel chaos]]/[[SRD:Dispel Evil|evil]]/[[SRD:Dispel Good|good]]/[[SRD:Dispel Law|law]]'', ''[[SRD:Legend Lore|legend lore]]'', ''[[SRD:Permanency|permanency]]'', ''[[SRD:Plane Shift|plane shift]]'', ''[[SRD:Prying Eyes|prying eyes]]'', ''[[SRD:Telepathic Bond|telepathic bond]]'', ''[[SRD:True Seeing|true seeing]]''&lt;br /&gt;
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6th&amp;amp;mdash;''[[SRD:Atonement|atonement]]'', ''[[SRD:Banishment|banishment]]'', ''[[SRD:Break Enchantment|break enchantment]]'', ''[[SRD:Find the Path|find the path]]'', ''[[SRD:Forbiddance|forbiddance]]'', ''[[SRD:Globe of Invulnerability|globe of invulnerability]]'', ''[[SRD:Greater Dispel Magic|greater dispel magic]]'', ''[[SRD:Planar Ally|planar ally]]'', ''[[SRD:Stone Tell|stone tell]]'', ''[[SRD:Word of Recall|word of recall]]''.&lt;br /&gt;
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7th&amp;amp;mdash;''[[SRD:Antimagic Field|antimagic field]]'', ''[[SRD:Ethereal Jaunt|ethereal jaunt]]'', ''[[SRD:Greater Arcane Sight|greater arcane sight]]'', ''[[SRD:Greater Scrying|greater scrying]]'', ''[[SRD:Limited Wish|limited wish]]'', ''[[SRD:Refuge|refuge]]'', ''[[SRD:Repulsion|repulsion]]'', ''[[SRD:Sequester|sequester]]'', ''[[SRD:Vision|vision]]''.&lt;br /&gt;
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8th&amp;amp;mdash;''[[SRD:Dimensional Lock|dimensional lock]]'', ''[[SRD:Discern Location|discern location]]'', ''[[SRD:Foresight|foresight]]'', ''[[SRD:Greater Planar Ally|greater planar ally]]'', ''[[SRD:Greater Prying Eyes|greater prying eyes]]'', ''[[SRD:Mind Blank|mind blank]]'', ''[[SRD:Moment of Prescience|moment of prescience]]''.&lt;br /&gt;
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9th&amp;amp;mdash;''[[SRD:Astral Projection|astral projection]]'', ''[[SRD:Etherealness|etherealness]]'', ''[[Gate|gate]]'', ''[[SRD:Mage's Disjunction|mage's disjunction]]'', ''[[Phenomenon Rejection (DnD Spell)|phenomenon rejection]]'', ''[[SRD:Wish|wish]]''.&lt;br /&gt;
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'''{{#anc:Planar Turning}} ([[Su]]):''' A deviant is able to turn and rebuke [[SRD:Elemental Type|elementals]] and [[SRD:Outsider Type|outsiders]] in the same manner in which [[SRD:Cleric|clerics]] [[SRD:Turn or Rebuke Undead|turn or rebuke undead]]. Planar entities with an alignment matching the deviant's are rebuked and others are turned. A neutral deviant may choose one of the four cardinal alignments ([[SRD:Chaotic Subtype|Chaotic]], [[SRD:Evil Subtype|Evil]], [[SRD:Good Subtype|Good]] or [[SRD:Lawful Subtype|Lawful]]) in relation to which he rebukes planar entities. Outsiders have an effective [[SRD:Turn Resistance|turn resistance]] equal to half their [[SRD:Spell Resistance|spell resistance]], rounded down. Both planar turning check and planar turning damage use [[Wisdom]] instead of [[Charisma]]. Elementals and outsiders that are 'destroyed' are [[SRD:Banishment|banished]] to their home plane instead. [[SRD:Native Subtype|Native]] outsiders cannot be affected by planar turning. When using planar turning, deviants get a bonus to their effective deviant level equal to their [[#Insight|deviant insight]] bonus if applicable. A deviant may use planar turning a number of times per day equal to 3 + his [[SRD:Wisdom|Wisdom]] modifier.&lt;br /&gt;
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'''{{#anc:Deviant Perception}} ([[Su]]):''' A deviant's perception extends beyond normal senses. He may use this deviant perception a number of minutes per day equal to his class level. Usage of this ability may be spread over multiple usages, round down to 1 minute periods. When active, the deviant gains an additional bonus to [[SRD:Listen Skill|Listen]], [[SRD:Search Skill|Search]] and [[SRD:Spot Skill|Spot]] checks equal to half his deviant level. In addition to that, the following effects become available to the deviant while his deviant perception is active. All saving throw DCs tied to this ability are [[SRD:Wisdom|Wisdom]] based.&lt;br /&gt;
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*When the deviant gets 5 ranks in [[Craft]] (alchemy) and 5 ranks in [[Heal]], his Deviant Perception includes a ''[[detect poison]]'' effect. When the deviant gets 5 ranks in [[Knowledge]] (nature) and 5 ranks in [[Survival]], he gains a ''[[Detect Animals or Plants (SRD Spell)|detect animals or plants]]'' effect as well.&lt;br /&gt;
*At 3rd level, the deviant gains the ability to detect auras belonging to alignment types (good, evil, law and chaos). This functions as ''[[detect good]]'', ''[[detect evil|evil]]'', ''[[detect law|law]]'' or ''[[detect chaos|chaos]]''. He may choose only one alignment type, and the type chosen must differ from his own.&lt;br /&gt;
*At 6th level, the deviant gains the ability to discern lies. This functions as the ''[[SRD:Discern Lies|discern lies]]'' spell. This effect allows a [[SRD:Saving Throw#Will|Will]] saving throw to be resisted.&lt;br /&gt;
*At 9th level, the deviant gains the ability to skim surface thoughts of sentient beings. This functions as the ''[[detect thoughts]]'' spell. This effect allows a [[SRD:Saving Throw#Will|Will]] saving throw to be resisted.&lt;br /&gt;
*At 12th level, the deviant gains ''[[arcane sight]]''.&lt;br /&gt;
*At 18th level, the deviant learns to discern all magical effects that act upon any item that he sees, as the ''[[SRD:Analyze Dweomer|analyze dweomer]]'' spell. &lt;br /&gt;
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'''{{#anc:Banishing Strike}} ([[SRD:Supernatural Ability|Su]]):''' As a [[SRD:Standard Actions|standard action]], a deviant of 4th level or higher can force an [[SRD:Extraplanar Subtype|extraplanar]] creature back to its home plane with a successful melee [[SRD:Touch Attack|touch attack]], unless the creature succeeds on a [[SRD:Saving Throw#Will|Will]] saving throw with a DC of 10 + ½ deviant's level + deviant's [[SRD:Wisdom|Wis]] modifier. A deviant may attempt a banishing strike a number of times per day equal to half his class level.&lt;br /&gt;
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'''{{#anc:Deviant Insight}} ([[Ex]]):''' With experience comes insight. At 5th level, the deviant gains a +1 insight bonus to [[Armor Class]], [[Reflex]] saves and [[Wisdom]] based class skills. The deviant insight bonus furthermore applies to [[#Planar Turning|planar turning]] and the deviant gets double his deviant insight bonus to all [[SRD:Concentration Skill|Concentration]] checks. This insight bonus increases with another +1 every 5 levels thereafter (+2 at 10th level, +3 at 15th, and so forth).&lt;br /&gt;
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'''{{#anc:Planar Mastery}} ([[SRD:Supernatural Ability|Su]]):''' At 7th level a deviant can transport himself from one location to another on the same plane, as per the spell ''[[SRD:Teleport|teleport]]'' once per day. [[SRD:Caster Level|Caster level]] is equal to the deviant's class level. Also, the deviant gets a [[SRD:Spell Resistance|spell resistance]] of 5 + his class level to resist the effects of ''[[SRD:Dimensional Anchor|dimensional anchors]]'', ''[[SRD:Dimensional Lock|dimensional locks]]'' and other such effects that impede his magical travels.&lt;br /&gt;
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'''{{#anc:Reach Out}} ([[Su]]):''' At 8th level, the deviant gains the ability to forge and maintain a ''[[Telepathic Bond (SRD Spell)|telepathic bond]]'' with one willing creature per 4 deviant levels as long as no two of these allies are more than 1 mile apart. The deviant may create and break his own telepathic bonds at will, with no [[SRD:Concentration Skill|Concentration]] requirement.&lt;br /&gt;
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'''{{#anc:Greater Planar Turning}} ([[SRD:Supernatural Ability|Su]]):''' At 10th level, whenever a deviant successfully [[#Planar Turning|turns]] an [[SRD:Elemental Type|elemental]] or [[SRD:Outsider Type|outsider]], it is [[SRD:Banishment|banished]] instead.&lt;br /&gt;
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'''{{#anc:True Sight}} ([[Su]]):''' At 11th level, the deviant gains ''[[SRD:True Seeing|true seeing]]'' out to 60 ft. This ability is always active. At 18th level, the range of a deviant's true sight becomes 120 ft.&lt;br /&gt;
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'''{{#anc:Commune}} ([[Su]]):''' At 12th level, the deviant can commune with certain special and unique spirits and creatures once per day. When a deviant is at a certain location, such as a dungeon, crypt, grove, mausoleum, cemetery, or any other place associated to the physical or spiritual remains of certain individuals, he can invoke these spirits or creatures in order to gain information. This ability functions as a combination of a ''[[SRD:Speak with Dead|speak with dead]]'' and a ''[[SRD:Refuge|refuge]]'' spell, except that the commune may be centered upon either an object or a location. When used, the ability attempts to transfer the possessor of an item, the keeper of a place, or someone to whom the item or place holds great significance, to you. Usually, but not necessarily, this particular creature is the ghostly spirit of a unique creature.&lt;br /&gt;
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Once the spirit appears, the deviant may ask it up to 1 question per 2 deviant levels. Only questions relevant to the target of the commune (item or location) will be answered, but unrelated questions still count towards the maximum and are wasted. On a result of 1-95 on a d%, the spirit called will know the answer to a question without fail, but the spirit possesses free will and may choose not to divulge the answer or lie. Like with ''[[Contact Other Plane (SRD Spell)|contact other plane]]'', the deviant rolls another d% to see whether he receives a true answer or a lie. In the event that the spirit knows, a result of 1–90 means truth and a result of 91–100 means lie.&lt;br /&gt;
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The number of times that the deviant may use commune increases to 2 at 16th level and to 3 at 20th level.&lt;br /&gt;
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'''{{#anc:Greater Planar Mastery}} ([[SRD:Supernatural Ability|Su]]):''' At 13th level a deviant can transport himself from one location to another on the same plane as per the spell ''[[SRD:Greater Teleport|greater teleport]]'', once per day. He may also travel between planes as per the spell ''[[SRD:Plane Shift|plane shift]]'' once per day, except he arrives exactly where he wants to on the intended plane. The [[SRD:Spell Resistance|spell resistance]] to travel-impeding spells granted by [[#Planar Mastery|planar mastery]] increases to 10 + the deviant's class level. This ability supercedes and replaces [[#Planar Mastery|planar mastery]].&lt;br /&gt;
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'''{{#anc:Planar Barring}} ([[SRD:Supernatural Ability|Su]]):''' At 14th level, the deviant can readily influence the convolution of the planes in his close proximity. He can emanate a ''[[SRD:Dimensional Lock|dimensional lock]]'' effect with a radius of 100 ft. centered on himself, barring all extradimensional travel into and out of his close surroundings. Within this area of effect, only the deviant himself is unimpeded. The deviant may turn this emanation field on or off at will, but only during his turn. Since this is a [[SRD:Supernatural Ability|supernatural ability]], [[SRD:Spell Resistance|spell resistance]] is not in effect, but creatures that are already in ethereal or astral form when the field hits them are still unaffected. If two planar barring fields touch, their effects overlap, and neither deviant is affected by the other unless one of the deviants is at least 4 levels higher than the other.&lt;br /&gt;
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'''{{#anc:Timeless Communion}} ([[Su]]):''' At 17th level, the deviant gains even further ability to reach out to spirits or creatures that might reward his efforts with valuable information. Timeless communion functions as [[#Commune|Commune]], except that the deviant may channel his mind through time itself. The deviant’s mind may journey into the past up to a number of years ago equal to the deviant's level plus his [[Knowledge]] (history) modifier. The deviant cannot look into the future. A timeless communion requires 10 minutes to establish, and the deviant may take up to one of his willing allies along into the communion.&lt;br /&gt;
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Looking into the past with this ability functions as follows. As he enters the communion, he leaves his body behind in the real world. The mind enters a visual and mental representation of the location he is in or of the location of the item he is focusing on. This representation contains all items, spaces, objects and people that were there at that moment in time. Any sentient creatures present in the Timeless Communion may be asked questions. Unlike [[#Commune|Commune]] or [[#Reach Out|Reach Out]], the Timeless Communion, once started, lasts a number of minutes equal to 5 + the deviant’s [[Intelligence]] modifier. Within this time, the deviant may inquire with any creature or examine any objects present in the Timeless Communion. Inside the communion, the deviant may stray no more than 10 ft. per deviant level from the location where he initiated the communion. Doing so will terminate the communion. It is impossible to take any items found within the communion back to the real world.&lt;br /&gt;
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''Move Back or Forth in time:'' Within limits, the deviant may shift his communion back and forth in time through mental focus. Attempting to stretch the timeless communion beyond its established limits will end the communion. Moving the communion back and forth in time requires a [[Concentration]] check with DC of 30 plus the number of years of the shift. Any shift smaller than half a year requires a DC 30 [[Concentration]] check, but for larger periods, the DC is rounded up to a whole number of years.&lt;br /&gt;
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''Lifepath:'' When the communion is initiated while focusing upon the remains of a creature, the deviant may follow part of the path taken by that creature in life. In this special application, the timeless communion displays the experiences of the person in question, allowing the deviant to track his movements across time within the usual limits of the timeless communion. If the Timeless Communion ability is used in this manner, the deviant may only observe and is unable to interact with the environment or ask questions.&lt;br /&gt;
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Through the timeless communion, the deviant may learn many things. The significance of a location, the fate befallen by a certain unique individual, the lore of lost kingdoms and bloodlines and legacies of former rulers, the possible location of certain unique magic items, the answers to a mystery, the knowledge as to who committed certain unsolved crimes, etcetera.&lt;br /&gt;
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Timeless communion counts towards the deviant's daily usages of [[#Commune|commune]].&lt;br /&gt;
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'''{{#anc:Supreme Planar Mastery}} ([[SRD:Supernatural Ability|Su]]):''' At 19th level a deviant can transport himself from one location to another on the same plane as per the spell ''[[SRD:Greater Teleport|greater teleport]]'', once per hour. Furthermore, he can travel in a multitude of ways. He may cast one of the following spells of his choice - ''[[SRD:Astral Projection|astral projection]]'', ''[[SRD:Etherealness|etherealness]]'', ''[[SRD:Gate|gate]]'' or ''[[SRD:Teleportation Circle|teleportation circle]]'' - a total of three times per day, with a minimum of one hour between successive castings. The [[SRD:Spell Resistance|spell resistance]] to travel-impeding spells granted by [[#Greater Planar Mastery|greater planar mastery]] increases to 15 + the deviant's class level. This ability supercedes and replaces [[#Greater Planar Mastery|greater planar mastery]].&lt;br /&gt;
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==== Ex-Deviants ====&lt;br /&gt;
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A deviant that voluntarily leaves the path of the deviants behind him or abandons his philosophy by swaying to extreme alignments may no longer take any levels in the deviant class. He however retains all abilities he gained from his class. If he so wishes, he may atone (as in the ''[[Atonement (SRD Spell)|atonement]]'' spell) to be able to continue as a deviant.&lt;br /&gt;
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==== Epic Deviant ====&lt;br /&gt;
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{| class=&amp;quot;{{d20}}&amp;quot;&lt;br /&gt;
|+ class=&amp;quot;epic&amp;quot; |&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;div&amp;gt;{{#anc:Table: The Epic Deviant}}&amp;lt;/div&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
Hit Die: d4&lt;br /&gt;
|-&lt;br /&gt;
! Level !! Special&lt;br /&gt;
|- class=&amp;quot;{{Odd-Even}}&amp;quot;&lt;br /&gt;
|21st|| class=&amp;quot;left&amp;quot; | &lt;br /&gt;
|- class=&amp;quot;{{Odd-Even}}&amp;quot;&lt;br /&gt;
|22nd|| class=&amp;quot;left&amp;quot; | &lt;br /&gt;
|- class=&amp;quot;{{Odd-Even}}&amp;quot;&lt;br /&gt;
|23rd|| class=&amp;quot;left&amp;quot; | [[#Epic Commune|Commune]] 4/day&lt;br /&gt;
|- class=&amp;quot;{{Odd-Even}}&amp;quot;&lt;br /&gt;
|24th|| class=&amp;quot;left&amp;quot; | [[#Bonus Feat|Bonus Feat]]&lt;br /&gt;
|- class=&amp;quot;{{Odd-Even}}&amp;quot;&lt;br /&gt;
|25th|| class=&amp;quot;left&amp;quot; | [[#Epic Insight|Deviant Insight]] +5&lt;br /&gt;
|- class=&amp;quot;{{Odd-Even}}&amp;quot;&lt;br /&gt;
|26th|| class=&amp;quot;left&amp;quot; | [[#Epic Commune|Commune]] 5/day&lt;br /&gt;
|- class=&amp;quot;{{Odd-Even}}&amp;quot;&lt;br /&gt;
|27th|| class=&amp;quot;left&amp;quot; | &lt;br /&gt;
|- class=&amp;quot;{{Odd-Even}}&amp;quot;&lt;br /&gt;
|28th|| class=&amp;quot;left&amp;quot; | [[#Bonus Feat|Bonus Feat]]&lt;br /&gt;
|- class=&amp;quot;{{Odd-Even}}&amp;quot;&lt;br /&gt;
|29th|| class=&amp;quot;left&amp;quot; | [[#Epic Commune|Commune]] 6/day&lt;br /&gt;
|- class=&amp;quot;{{Odd-Even}}&amp;quot;&lt;br /&gt;
|30th|| class=&amp;quot;left&amp;quot; | [[#Epic Insight|Deviant Insight]] +6&lt;br /&gt;
|-&lt;br /&gt;
| colspan=&amp;quot;42&amp;quot; class=&amp;quot;skill&amp;quot; |&lt;br /&gt;
8 + [[SRD:Intelligence|Int]] modifier skill points per level.&lt;br /&gt;
|}&lt;br /&gt;
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'''Spells:''' The deviant’s caster level is equal to his class level. The deviant’s number of spells does not increase after 20th level.&lt;br /&gt;
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'''&amp;lt;span id=&amp;quot;Epic Commune&amp;quot;&amp;gt;Commune:&amp;lt;/span id&amp;gt;''' The deviant gains additional usages of his [[#Commune|Commune]] ability every 3 levels after 20 (5/day at 23rd, 6/day at 26th, etc.).&lt;br /&gt;
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'''&amp;lt;span id=&amp;quot;Epic Insight&amp;quot;&amp;gt;Deviant Insight:&amp;lt;/span id&amp;gt;''' This ability continues to increase normally after 20th level, by 1 every five levels. (+5 at 25th, +6 at 30th, etc)&lt;br /&gt;
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'''&amp;lt;span id=&amp;quot;Bonus Feat&amp;quot;&amp;gt;Bonus Feats:&amp;lt;/span id&amp;gt;''' The epic deviant gains a bonus feat (selected from the list of epic deviant bonus feats) every 4 levels after 20th.&lt;br /&gt;
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''Epic Deviant Bonus Feat List:'' [[Armor Skin]], [[Automatic Quicken Spell]], [[Craft Epic Magic Arms and Armor]], [[Craft Epic Rod]], [[Craft Epic Staff]], [[Craft Epic Wondrous Item (SRD Epic Feat)|Craft Epic Wondrous Item]], [[Damage Reduction]], [[Energy Resistance]], [[Epic Prowess]], [[Epic Skill Focus]], [[Extended Life Span (SRD Epic Feat)|Extended Life Span]], [[Fast Healing]], [[Forge Epic Ring]], [[Improved Combat Casting (SRD Epic Feat)|Improved Combat Casting]], [[Multispell (SRD Epic Feat)|Multispell]], [[Permanent Emanation (SRD Epic Feat)|Permanent Emanation]], [[Polyglot]], [[Spell Stowaway (SRD Epic Feat)|Spell Stowaway]]&lt;br /&gt;
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==== Human Deviant Starting Package ====&lt;br /&gt;
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'''Armor:''' None (speed 30 ft.)&lt;br /&gt;
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'''Weapons:''' [[Light mace]] (1d6, crit ×2, 4 lb., one-handed, bludgeoning). [[Light crossbow]] (1d8, crit 19-20/×2, range inc. 80 ft., 4 lb., piercing). &lt;br /&gt;
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'''Skill Selection:''' Pick a number of skills equal to 9 + [[Int]] modifier.&lt;br /&gt;
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{| class=&amp;quot;{{d20}}&amp;quot;&lt;br /&gt;
|-&lt;br /&gt;
! class=&amp;quot;left&amp;quot; | Skill || Ranks || Ability || Armor&amp;lt;br/&amp;gt;Check&amp;lt;br/&amp;gt;Penalty&lt;br /&gt;
|- class=&amp;quot;{{Odd-Even}}&amp;quot;&lt;br /&gt;
| class=&amp;quot;left&amp;quot; | [[Knowledge]] (history) || 4 || [[Int]] || — &lt;br /&gt;
|- class=&amp;quot;{{Odd-Even}}&amp;quot;&lt;br /&gt;
| class=&amp;quot;left&amp;quot; | [[Spellcraft]] || 4 || [[Int]] || —&lt;br /&gt;
|- class=&amp;quot;{{Odd-Even}}&amp;quot;&lt;br /&gt;
| class=&amp;quot;left&amp;quot; | [[Knowledge]] (lore) || 4 || [[Int]] || — &lt;br /&gt;
|- class=&amp;quot;{{Odd-Even}}&amp;quot;&lt;br /&gt;
| class=&amp;quot;left&amp;quot; | [[Concentration]] || 4 || [[Con]] || —&lt;br /&gt;
|- class=&amp;quot;{{Odd-Even}}&amp;quot;&lt;br /&gt;
| class=&amp;quot;left&amp;quot; | [[Heal]] || 4 || [[Wis]] || — &lt;br /&gt;
|- class=&amp;quot;{{Odd-Even}}&amp;quot;&lt;br /&gt;
| class=&amp;quot;left&amp;quot; | [[Sense Motive]] || 4 || [[Wis]] || —&lt;br /&gt;
|- class=&amp;quot;{{Odd-Even}}&amp;quot;&lt;br /&gt;
| class=&amp;quot;left&amp;quot; | [[Survival]] || 4 || [[Wis]] || — &lt;br /&gt;
|- class=&amp;quot;{{Odd-Even}}&amp;quot;&lt;br /&gt;
| class=&amp;quot;left&amp;quot; | [[Listen]] || 4 || [[Wis]] || —&lt;br /&gt;
|- class=&amp;quot;{{Odd-Even}}&amp;quot;&lt;br /&gt;
| class=&amp;quot;left&amp;quot; | [[Knowledge]] (the planes) || 4 || [[Int]] || — &lt;br /&gt;
|- class=&amp;quot;{{Odd-Even}}&amp;quot;&lt;br /&gt;
| class=&amp;quot;left&amp;quot; | [[Knowledge]] (religion) || 4 || [[Int]] || —&lt;br /&gt;
|- class=&amp;quot;{{Odd-Even}}&amp;quot;&lt;br /&gt;
| class=&amp;quot;left&amp;quot; | [[Knowledge]] (nature) || 4 || [[Int]] || — &lt;br /&gt;
|- class=&amp;quot;{{Odd-Even}}&amp;quot;&lt;br /&gt;
| class=&amp;quot;left&amp;quot; | [[Craft]] (alchemy) || 4 || [[Int]] || —&lt;br /&gt;
|- class=&amp;quot;{{Odd-Even}}&amp;quot;&lt;br /&gt;
| class=&amp;quot;left&amp;quot; | [[Perform]] (oratory) || 4 || [[Cha]] || — &lt;br /&gt;
|}&lt;br /&gt;
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'''Feat:''' [[Toughness]]&lt;br /&gt;
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'''Bonus Feat:''' [[Spell Focus]] ([[divination]])&lt;br /&gt;
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'''Gear:''' Backpack with waterskin, one day's trail rations, bedroll, sack and flint and steel. Case with 10 crossbow bolts. Wooden holy symbol (sun disc of pelor). Three torches.&lt;br /&gt;
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'''Gold:''' 25 gp&lt;br /&gt;
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=== Campaign Information ===&lt;br /&gt;
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==== Playing a Deviant ====&lt;br /&gt;
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'''Religion:''' Although religion itself is not important to the deviant, he does believe - and believe profoundly - in the existence and significance of greater beings such as gods. They might revere them,  but mostly they respect them and research them in order to gain more understanding about the cosmos. Why do deities what they do, and what is the effect upon the world that we live in? That is one of the questions that a deviant is likely to pursue, and for that, worshipping a deity might help light that path.&lt;br /&gt;
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'''Other Classes:''' The deviant exercises a strong communion not only with the world itself, but with the people in it. They bond easily, and their friendship often extends to wise words and advice. Because deviants are neither great fighters nor offensive spellcasters, they tend to work best when other people in the party fulfill those needs, enabling the deviant to focus on observation and study.&lt;br /&gt;
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'''Combat:''' Deviants are support characters, and their greatest hours come and pass outside of the confines of combat. Their great perception allows them to identify threats before other characters, whilst their ability to do planar turning can drastically thin out any battlefield.&lt;br /&gt;
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'''Advancement:''' [[Rogue|Rogues]] with levels in deviant or vice versa have huge amounts of different skills, able to reap the benefits of both classes fully without the need of spreading skillpoints too far. The same goes for neutral [[bard|bards]] &lt;br /&gt;
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Although the deviant may not be very compatible to many interesting prestige classes, it does not come without its own chance for advancement. Their [[divination]] focused spellcasting and dependency on many types of knowledge make the deviant the perfect candidate for the [[loremaster]] prestige class. Deviants also make for good [[horizon walker|horizon walkers]]. Other prestige classes that hinge primarily on skill based prerequisites are more readily available to a well customized deviant.&lt;br /&gt;
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==== Deviants in the World ====&lt;br /&gt;
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{{quote&lt;br /&gt;
|Dimmald is an old man. When you see him, he's oft lost in his thoughts. Trudging by seemingly aimlessly. His own instincts guide him through every day and every step, and no one knows in which corner of Waterdeep he will end up as the sun disappears.&lt;br /&gt;
|orig=Jozic Frigh, Half-Orc Innkeeper&lt;br /&gt;
|src=&lt;br /&gt;
}}&lt;br /&gt;
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The deviant walks the world and lets the world touch him without touching it. He generally goes wherever his desire for enlightenment and understanding takes him. Where one seeks the duplicity of city life, the other seeks isolation on the highest mountain peak. The locales and environs in which the deviants roam are as varied as the deviants themselves. Some experience their unique brand of understanding through song and music, whereas others enjoy the silence and the spray of the sea. They are everywhere, and yet they are most often hardly heard of.&lt;br /&gt;
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'''Daily Life:''' You will not often see the deviant keep a log of where he went and what he did one day. Cataloguing such mundane experiences did not bring a feasible reward. They have their own rhythm, and yet that rhythm is quite often broken. They find comfort in change, as change is nature. A day in the life of a deviant is however quite gentle and slow. They sit back to stare at life's conundrums, and drink a good glass of wine as they mull it over. They contemplate their thoughts and findings over slow paced games. And, when the day has gone, the deviant usually goes back to bed with the smile of a contented hermit on his face.&lt;br /&gt;
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'''Notables:''' Fame is not something a deviant desires. The old hermit atop the mountain, the young man that observes the stars for days on end. Few deviants make names for themselves, as fame detracts from the pursuit of enlightenment.&lt;br /&gt;
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'''Organizations:''' Deviants make no organizations; they wish to see the diversity of the material plane for themselves, unfettered by unnecessary bonds of organization and rather focusing upon their bonds with the living things that surround them. If any form of conglomeration of wizened old sages coming together is to be called an organization, then perhaps the philosophers of hidden circles may be the closest thing to some form of organizations that deviants come to.&lt;br /&gt;
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'''NPC Reactions:''' They may find them strange, or think them preoccupied. When others look at the deviant, it is often with a look that signifies a lack of understanding. Despite this, the wizened deviants of the world are hardly prone to being disliked or ostracized. Their aims are honorable, and they take their philosophical journeys without forcing them on others.&lt;br /&gt;
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==== Deviant Lore ====&lt;br /&gt;
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As numerous as deviants are, though rare in character and their great mental acumen, their lore is as diverse as their set of skills.&lt;br /&gt;
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Characters with ranks in [[SRD:Knowledge Skill|Knowledge]] (local) can research deviants to learn more about them.  When a character makes a skill check, read or paraphrase the following, including information from lower DCs.&lt;br /&gt;
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{| class=&amp;quot;{{d20}}&amp;quot;&lt;br /&gt;
|+ [[SRD:Knowledge Skill|Knowledge]] (local)&lt;br /&gt;
! DC || class=&amp;quot;left&amp;quot; | Result&lt;br /&gt;
|- class=&amp;quot;{{Odd-Even}}&amp;quot;&lt;br /&gt;
| 5 || class=&amp;quot;left&amp;quot; | Deviants are retainers of old philosophies, and oft share them over joined contemplation&lt;br /&gt;
|- class=&amp;quot;{{Odd-Even}}&amp;quot;&lt;br /&gt;
| 10 || class=&amp;quot;left&amp;quot; | Deviants seek understanding in nature, and learn to emanate such natural forces to protect and bolster themselves and their companions greatly.&lt;br /&gt;
|- class=&amp;quot;{{Odd-Even}}&amp;quot;&lt;br /&gt;
| 15 || class=&amp;quot;left&amp;quot; | A deviant's perception is very advanced; they stare with many different eyes, and their perception allows them to detect many things, from poisons to magic, to the very moral and ethical intents of a person.&lt;br /&gt;
|- class=&amp;quot;{{Odd-Even}}&amp;quot;&lt;br /&gt;
| 20 || class=&amp;quot;left&amp;quot; | A deviant's [[SRD:Divination School|divination]] is so profound that he may stretch out his mind through time itself, to reclaim lost knowledge.&lt;br /&gt;
|}&lt;br /&gt;
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==== Deviants in the Game ====&lt;br /&gt;
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Tellers, travelers, wanderers, ascetics, pacifists, chroniclers, loremasters, seekers and doers. The deviant is it all, using their profound perceptive qualities in order to help their comrades. A deviant sees many things that other people can't, and uses his innate emanations in order to strengthen or defend. Deviants are the outsider's bane; their profound understanding of the cosmos allows them to whisk away disagreeable elementals and outsiders to their native planes. The player of a deviant befalls the task of roleplaying out this singular playstyled class the way he or she wants.&lt;br /&gt;
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'''Sample Encounter:''' In order for the PCs to procure the knowledge they need in order to find a forlorn treasure within a desolate and abandoned land wracked by constant storms, or the far-hidden lair of a [[SRD:Blue Dragon|blue dragon]] tyrant within the flotsam of a largely frozen ocean, the party seeks out a well-known oracle. Living detached from worldly cares, this spirited old man inhabits a peculiar hovel at the far edge of civilization, where he holds audiences to curious loreseekers and searches the threads of fate for an answer to their concerns in return for a fee either in gold or in cultural paraphernalia.&lt;br /&gt;
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{{:Koh Lei Ming (DnD NPC)}}&lt;br /&gt;
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		<title>Deviant (3.5e Class)</title>
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		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;Surgo: Yes, Sulacu wants her things deleted. Removing her name as an author, however, is a violation of the GNU Free Documentation License.&lt;/p&gt;
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{{DnD Base Class Infobox&lt;br /&gt;
|img=Deviant.jpg&lt;br /&gt;
|imgloc=bottom&lt;br /&gt;
|imgsize=&lt;br /&gt;
|imgcaption=An old deviant, reading and mulling&lt;br /&gt;
|rating_power=5&lt;br /&gt;
|rating_wording=5&lt;br /&gt;
|rating_formatting=5&lt;br /&gt;
|rating_flavor=5&lt;br /&gt;
|raters_power=2&lt;br /&gt;
|raters_wording=3&lt;br /&gt;
|raters_formatting=2&lt;br /&gt;
|raters_flavor=3&lt;br /&gt;
|authors=[[User:Sulacu|Sulacu]]&lt;br /&gt;
|datecreated=November 8, 2007&lt;br /&gt;
|adopters=[[User:Jota|Jota]]&lt;br /&gt;
|dateadopted=August 25, 2009&lt;br /&gt;
|status=Complete&lt;br /&gt;
|editing=&lt;br /&gt;
|type=Strong Spellcasting, Skilled&lt;br /&gt;
|desc=A knower and deviner of the many secrets of the world&lt;br /&gt;
}}&lt;br /&gt;
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== The Deviant ==&lt;br /&gt;
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The nature of the universe is ever shifting. Mostly this nature passes by the people that live it, but there are certain individuals who devote their lives to this most exclusive of understanding. Through learning and experiences that may be religious, enlightening, ascetical or even purely for the self, the deviant gains unfathomable understanding of the world. His findings may seem trivial to most, but the tiniest smidgeon of lore, the smallest hint of life or growth, and the most inconspicuous omen may contribute to the Deviant’s preternatural senses. Through a constant search for understanding and self-renewal, the deviant learns to see with different eyes. The deviant practices things such as history, lore, philosophy and oratory performance. An esteemed and humble traveler and teller, two old eccentrics seeking mutual understanding over a game of chess, the devout that travels to the outer realms to petition his deity in order to reach a higher plane of understanding; these can all be deviants.&lt;br /&gt;
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The name deviant comes from the fact that the deviant’s outlook on life, philosophy and way of living are mostly always different from the law abiding city folk, whereas also veering from the selfish desires of the self-serving. They bear the name deviant with a sense of well mannered and restrained pride.&lt;br /&gt;
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=== Making a Deviant ===&lt;br /&gt;
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Deviants aren’t combatants, nor are they handymen. They are observers of the highest tier, seeking patterns in life and distilling their experiences to gain knowledge. They discern, detect and reveal, preferably without having to bash or render the entire area to flame. The deviant seeks a strange form of balance between inward focus and interaction with comrades, since in both of these things can be found wisdom and understanding. Especially in areas rife with magical effects, a deviant is invaluable; their many methods of observation help them to see things that other characters usually miss. Deviants have a strange hardiness to effects of the mind and the body and their integral understanding of both arcane and divine magic through their spellcraft grants them a nearly unsurpassed resilience to such forces. A deviant lets a place he travels to touch him, but he does not touch them. A deviant is respect without either strong adherence or compulsive obsession.&lt;br /&gt;
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The deviant is a class that encourages pure roleplaying, and that is campaign specific to an extent of the campaign’s immersive quality. Detailed campaigns where interaction, intrigue and mystery are the most important pivots, campaigns with a detailed background and well designed and full systems of society and pantheons, will benefit the most from this class, and will benefit this class the most in turn. Despite this, the deviant is not helpless when it comes to combat situations, his insight and senses often alerting him to dangers before they strike. &lt;br /&gt;
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In life, deviants are often rugged philosophers, no amount of grime on their leather explorer outfit deterring them from the next insightful revelation on their lifetime journey. Their versatile skill sets and travelworn nature make them easily more capable than a wizard or a sorcerer when on the road, even though life's many peculiarities may more frequently halt their steps.&lt;br /&gt;
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'''Abilities:''' [[Wisdom]] is very important for the deviant, as it represents his ability to make sense of the inherent chaos of nature, or the order of civilization. [[Wisdom]] allows them to sieve the understanding from their quandary and apply it on the challenges they face, as well as increasing their perception as well as their spells. [[Charisma]] is important for the portion of a deviant’s interaction with friend and foe alike. Furthermore, [[Intelligence]] is a boon for the knowledge that the deviant requires in many different areas of his discipline.&lt;br /&gt;
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'''Races:''' Amidst almost every sentient race of creatures, you will find those few individuals that devote a lifetime to understand. Whether it is their own civilization, the world or concepts such as life and death they wish to understand, such individuals may be deviants. Hence, deviants can occur within any demographic.&lt;br /&gt;
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'''Alignment:''' Any [[neutral]].&lt;br /&gt;
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'''Starting Gold:''' 1d4&amp;amp;times;10 gp.&lt;br /&gt;
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'''Starting Age:''' Complex&lt;br /&gt;
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{| class=&amp;quot;{{d20}}&amp;quot;&lt;br /&gt;
|+&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;div&amp;gt;{{#anc:Table: The Deviant}}&amp;lt;/div&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
Hit Die: d6&lt;br /&gt;
|-&lt;br /&gt;
! rowspan=&amp;quot;2&amp;quot; | Level&lt;br /&gt;
! rowspan=&amp;quot;2&amp;quot; | [[BAB|Base&amp;lt;br/&amp;gt;Attack Bonus]]&lt;br /&gt;
! colspan=&amp;quot;3&amp;quot; | [[SRD:Saving Throw|Saving Throw]]s&lt;br /&gt;
! rowspan=&amp;quot;2&amp;quot; | Special&lt;br /&gt;
! colspan=&amp;quot;10&amp;quot; | [[#Spells|Spells per Day]]&lt;br /&gt;
|-&lt;br /&gt;
! [[SRD:Saving Throw#Fortitude|Fort]] || [[SRD:Saving Throw#Reflex|Ref]] || [[SRD:Saving Throw#Will|Will]]&lt;br /&gt;
! 0 || 1&amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;st&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; || 2&amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;nd&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; || 3&amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;rd&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; || 4&amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;th&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; || 5&amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;th&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; || 6&amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;th&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; || 7&amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;th&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; || 8&amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;th&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; || 9&amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;th&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
|- class=&amp;quot;{{Odd-Even}}&amp;quot;&lt;br /&gt;
|1st|| class=&amp;quot;left&amp;quot; | +0 || +0 || +0 || +2&lt;br /&gt;
| class=&amp;quot;left&amp;quot; | [[#Planar Turning|Planar Turning]]&lt;br /&gt;
|2||1||—||—||—||—||—||—||—||—&lt;br /&gt;
|- class=&amp;quot;{{Odd-Even}}&amp;quot;&lt;br /&gt;
|2nd|| class=&amp;quot;left&amp;quot; | +1 || +0 || +0 || +3&lt;br /&gt;
| class=&amp;quot;left&amp;quot; | [[#Deviant Perception|Deviant Perception]]&lt;br /&gt;
|2||2||—||—||—||—||—||—||—||—&lt;br /&gt;
|- class=&amp;quot;{{Odd-Even}}&amp;quot;&lt;br /&gt;
|3rd|| class=&amp;quot;left&amp;quot; | +2 || +1 || +1 || +3&lt;br /&gt;
| class=&amp;quot;left&amp;quot; | [[#Deviant Perception|Deviant Perception]] (''[[Detect Evil (SRD Spell)|alignment]]'')&lt;br /&gt;
|3||2||1||—||—||—||—||—||—||—&lt;br /&gt;
|- class=&amp;quot;{{Odd-Even}}&amp;quot;&lt;br /&gt;
|4th||class=&amp;quot;left&amp;quot; | +3 || +1 || +1 || +4&lt;br /&gt;
| class=&amp;quot;left&amp;quot; | [[#Banishing Strike|Banishing Strike]]&lt;br /&gt;
|3||2||2||—||—||—||—||—||—||—&lt;br /&gt;
|- class=&amp;quot;{{Odd-Even}}&amp;quot;&lt;br /&gt;
|5th||class=&amp;quot;left&amp;quot; | +3 || +1 || +1 || +4&lt;br /&gt;
| class=&amp;quot;left&amp;quot; | [[#Deviant Insight|Deviant Insight]] +1&lt;br /&gt;
|3||3||2||1||—||—||—||—||—||—&lt;br /&gt;
|- class=&amp;quot;{{Odd-Even}}&amp;quot;&lt;br /&gt;
|6th||class=&amp;quot;left&amp;quot; | +4 || +2 || +2 || +5&lt;br /&gt;
| class=&amp;quot;left&amp;quot; | [[#Deviant Perception|Deviant Perception]] (''[[SRD:Discern Lies|lies]]'')&lt;br /&gt;
|3||3||2||2||—||—||—||—||—||—&lt;br /&gt;
|- class=&amp;quot;{{Odd-Even}}&amp;quot;&lt;br /&gt;
|7th||class=&amp;quot;left&amp;quot; | +5 || +2 || +2 || +5&lt;br /&gt;
| class=&amp;quot;left&amp;quot; | [[#Planar Mastery|Planar Mastery]]&lt;br /&gt;
|3||3||3||2||1||—||—||—||—||—&lt;br /&gt;
|- class=&amp;quot;{{Odd-Even}}&amp;quot;&lt;br /&gt;
|8th||class=&amp;quot;left&amp;quot; | +6/+1 || +2 || +2 || +6&lt;br /&gt;
| class=&amp;quot;left&amp;quot; | [[#Reach Out|Reach Out]]&lt;br /&gt;
|4||3||3||2||2||—||—||—||—||—&lt;br /&gt;
|- class=&amp;quot;{{Odd-Even}}&amp;quot;&lt;br /&gt;
|9th||class=&amp;quot;left&amp;quot; | +6/+1 || +3 || +3 || +6&lt;br /&gt;
| class=&amp;quot;left&amp;quot; | [[#Deviant Perception|Deviant Perception]] (''[[SRD:Detect Thoughts|thoughts]]'')&lt;br /&gt;
|4||3||3||3||2||1||—||—||—||—&lt;br /&gt;
|- class=&amp;quot;{{Odd-Even}}&amp;quot;&lt;br /&gt;
|10th||class=&amp;quot;left&amp;quot; | +7/+2 || +3 || +3 || +7&lt;br /&gt;
| class=&amp;quot;left&amp;quot; | [[#Greater Planar Turning|Greater Planar Turning]], [[#Deviant Insight|Deviant Insight]] +2&lt;br /&gt;
|4||4||3||3||2||2||—||—||—||—&lt;br /&gt;
|- class=&amp;quot;{{Odd-Even}}&amp;quot;&lt;br /&gt;
|11th||class=&amp;quot;left&amp;quot; | +8/+3 || +3 || +3 || +7&lt;br /&gt;
| class=&amp;quot;left&amp;quot; | [[#True Sight|True Sight]]&lt;br /&gt;
|4||4||3||3||3||2||1||—||—||—&lt;br /&gt;
|- class=&amp;quot;{{Odd-Even}}&amp;quot;&lt;br /&gt;
|12th||class=&amp;quot;left&amp;quot; | +9/+4 || +4 || +4 || +8&lt;br /&gt;
| class=&amp;quot;left&amp;quot; | [[#Commune|Commune]] 1/day, [[#Deviant Perception|Deviant Perception]] (''[[SRD:Arcane Sight|arcane sight]]'')&lt;br /&gt;
|4||4||4||3||3||2||2||—||—||—&lt;br /&gt;
|- class=&amp;quot;{{Odd-Even}}&amp;quot;&lt;br /&gt;
|13th||class=&amp;quot;left&amp;quot; | +9/+4 || +4 || +4 || +8&lt;br /&gt;
| class=&amp;quot;left&amp;quot; | [[#Greater Planar Mastery|Greater Planar Mastery]]&lt;br /&gt;
|4||4||4||3||3||3||2||1||—||—&lt;br /&gt;
|- class=&amp;quot;{{Odd-Even}}&amp;quot;&lt;br /&gt;
|14th||class=&amp;quot;left&amp;quot; | +10/+5 || +4 || +4 || +9&lt;br /&gt;
| class=&amp;quot;left&amp;quot; | [[#Planar Barring|Planar Barring]]&lt;br /&gt;
|4||4||4||4||3||3||2||2||—||—&lt;br /&gt;
|- class=&amp;quot;{{Odd-Even}}&amp;quot;&lt;br /&gt;
|15th||class=&amp;quot;left&amp;quot; | +11/+6/+1 || +5 || +5 || +9&lt;br /&gt;
| class=&amp;quot;left&amp;quot; | [[#Deviant Insight|Deviant Insight]] +3&lt;br /&gt;
|5||4||4||4||3||3||3||2||1||—&lt;br /&gt;
|- class=&amp;quot;{{Odd-Even}}&amp;quot;&lt;br /&gt;
|16th||class=&amp;quot;left&amp;quot; | +12/+7/+2 || +5 || +5 || +10&lt;br /&gt;
| class=&amp;quot;left&amp;quot; | [[#Commune|Commune]] 2/day&lt;br /&gt;
|5||4||4||4||4||3||3||2||2||—&lt;br /&gt;
|- class=&amp;quot;{{Odd-Even}}&amp;quot;&lt;br /&gt;
|17th||class=&amp;quot;left&amp;quot; | +12/+7/+2 || +5 || +5 || +10&lt;br /&gt;
| class=&amp;quot;left&amp;quot; | [[#Timeless Communion|Timeless Communion]]&lt;br /&gt;
|5||5||4||4||4||3||3||3||2||1&lt;br /&gt;
|- class=&amp;quot;{{Odd-Even}}&amp;quot;&lt;br /&gt;
|18th||class=&amp;quot;left&amp;quot; | +13/+8/+3 || +6 || +6 || +11&lt;br /&gt;
| class=&amp;quot;left&amp;quot; | [[#True Sight|Greater True Sight]], [[#Deviant Perception|Deviant Perception]] (''[[SRD:Analyze Dweomer|analyze dweomer]]'')&lt;br /&gt;
|5||5||4||4||4||4||3||3||2||2&lt;br /&gt;
|- class=&amp;quot;{{Odd-Even}}&amp;quot;&lt;br /&gt;
|19th||class=&amp;quot;left&amp;quot; | +14/+9/+4 || +6 || +6 || +11&lt;br /&gt;
| class=&amp;quot;left&amp;quot; | [[#Supreme Planar Mastery|Supreme Planar Mastery]]&lt;br /&gt;
|5||5||5||4||4||4||3||3||3||2&lt;br /&gt;
|- class=&amp;quot;{{Odd-Even}}&amp;quot;&lt;br /&gt;
|20th||class=&amp;quot;left&amp;quot; | +15/+10/+5 || +6 || +6 || +12&lt;br /&gt;
| class=&amp;quot;left&amp;quot; | [[#Commune|Commune]] 3/day, [[#Deviant Insight|Deviant Insight]] +4&lt;br /&gt;
|5||5||5||4||4||4||4||3||3||3&lt;br /&gt;
|-&lt;br /&gt;
| colspan=&amp;quot;42&amp;quot; class=&amp;quot;skill&amp;quot; |&lt;br /&gt;
'''Class Skills (8 + [[Int]] modifier per level, &amp;amp;times;4 at 1st level)'''&amp;lt;br/&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
[[Bluff]] ([[Cha]]), [[Concentration]] ([[Con]]), [[Craft]] ([[Int]]), [[Decipher Script]] ([[Int]]), [[Disguise]] ([[Cha]]), [[Diplomacy]] ([[Cha]]), [[Gather Information]] ([[Cha]]), [[Heal]] ([[Wis]]), [[Knowledge]] (all skills taken individually) ([[Int]]), [[Profession]] ([[Wis]]), [[Listen]] ([[Wis]]), [[Perform]] ([[Cha]]), [[Search]] ([[Int]]), [[Sense Motive]] ([[Wis]]), [[Spellcraft]] ([[Int]]), [[Spot]] ([[Wis]]), [[Survival]] ([[Wis]]).&lt;br /&gt;
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==== Class Features ====&lt;br /&gt;
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All of the following are class features of the deviant.&lt;br /&gt;
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'''Weapon and Armor Proficiency:''' Deviants are proficient with all simple weapons, and with one martial or exotic weapon of their choice. If the chosen weapon is exotic, the deviant gains [[Exotic Weapon Proficiency]] for that weapon for free at 1st level.&lt;br /&gt;
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Deviants are proficient with light and medium armor, but not with shields.&lt;br /&gt;
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'''{{#anc:Spells}}:''' A deviant casts spells that are divine in nature. Deviants specialize in [[SRD:Divination School|divination]], although they can also cast some spells from other schools (mostly [[SRD:Universal School|universal]] spells and spells from the [[SRD:Abjuration School|abjuration]] school). See the [[#Deviant Spell List|deviant spell list]] for what spells are available to the deviant.&lt;br /&gt;
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To prepare or cast a spell, a deviant must have a [[Wisdom]] score equal to at least 10 + the spell level. The DC for a saving throw against a deviant’s spell is 10 + the spell level + the deviant's [[Wisdom]] modifier.&lt;br /&gt;
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Like other spellcasters, a deviant can cast only a certain number of spells of each spell level per day. His base daily spell allotment is given on [[#Table Deviant|Table: The Deviant]]. In addition, he receives bonus spells per day if he has a high [[Wisdom]] score. A high score however doesn't allow him to learn spells of a higher level than that he knows.&lt;br /&gt;
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Deviants choose their spells from the following list:&lt;br /&gt;
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0&amp;amp;mdash;''[[SRD:Detect Magic|detect magic]]'', ''[[SRD:Detect Poison|detect poison]]'', ''[[SRD:Guidance|guidance]]'', ''[[SRD:Light|light]]'', ''[[SRD:Prestidigitation|prestidigitation]]'', ''[[SRD:Read Magic|read magic]]'', ''[[SRD:Resistance|resistance]]''.&lt;br /&gt;
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1st&amp;amp;mdash;''[[SRD:Comprehend Languages|comprehend languages]]'', ''[[SRD:Deathwatch|deathwatch]]'', ''[[SRD:Detect Animals or Plants|detect animals or plants]]'', ''[[SRD:Detect Chaos|detect chaos]]/[[SRD:Detect Evil|evil]]/[[SRD:Detect Good|good]]/[[SRD:Detect Law|law]]'', ''[[SRD:Detect Secret Doors|detect secret doors]]'', ''[[SRD:Detect Snares and Pits|detect snares and pits]]'', ''[[SRD:Detect Undead|detect undead]]'', ''[[SRD:Endure Elements|endure elements]]'', ''[[SRD:Hide from Undead|hide from undead]]'', ''[[SRD:Identify|identify]]'', ''[[SRD:Protection from Chaos|protection from chaos]]/[[SRD:Protection from Evil|evil]]/[[SRD:Protection from Good|good]]/[[SRD:Protection from Law|law]]'', ''[[SRD:Sanctuary|sanctuary]]''.&lt;br /&gt;
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2nd&amp;amp;mdash;''[[SRD:Augury|augury]]'', ''[[SRD:Detect Thoughts|detect thoughts]]'', ''[[SRD:Locate Object|locate object]]'', ''[[SRD:Find Traps|find traps]]'', ''[[SRD:Obscure Object|obscure object]]'', ''[[SRD:Resist Energy|resist energy]]'', ''[[SRD:See Invisibility|see invisibility]]'', ''[[SRD:Status|status]]'', ''[[SRD:Undetectable Alignment|undetectable alignment]]''.&lt;br /&gt;
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3rd&amp;amp;mdash;''[[SRD:Arcane Sight|arcane sight]]'', ''[[SRD:Clairaudience/Clairvoyance|clairaudience/clairvoyance]]'', ''[[SRD:Dispel Magic|dispel magic]]'', ''[[SRD:Magic Circle against Chaos|magic circle against chaos]]/[[SRD:Magic Circle against Evil|evil]]/[[SRD:Magic Circle against Good|good]]/[[SRD:Magic Circle against Law|law]]'', ''[[SRD:Nondetection|nondetection]]'', ''[[SRD:Protection from Energy|protection from energy]]'', ''[[SRD:Remove Curse|remove curse]]'', ''[[SRD:Remove Disease|remove disease]]'', ''[[SRD:Speak with Dead|speak with dead]]'', ''[[SRD:Speak with Plants|speak with plants]]'', ''[[SRD:Tongues|tongues]]''.&lt;br /&gt;
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4th&amp;amp;mdash;''[[SRD:Arcane Eye|arcane eye]]'', ''[[SRD:Death Ward|death ward]]'', ''[[SRD:Detect Scrying|detect scrying]]'', ''[[SRD:Dimensional Anchor|dimensional anchor]]'', ''[[SRD:Discern Lies|discern lies]]'', ''[[SRD:Dismissal|dismissal]]'', ''[[SRD:Divination|divination]]'', ''[[SRD:Lesser Globe of Invulnerability|lesser globe of invulnerability]]'', ''[[SRD:Lesser Planar Ally|lesser planar ally]]'', ''[[SRD:Locate Creature|locate creature]]'', ''[[SRD:Sending|sending]]'', ''[[SRD:Scrying|scrying]]''.&lt;br /&gt;
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5th&amp;amp;mdash;''[[SRD:Analyze Dweomer|analyze dweomer]]'', ''[[SRD:Commune|commune]]'', ''[[SRD:Commune with Nature|commune with nature]]'', ''[[SRD:Contact Other Plane|contact other plane]]'', ''[[SRD:Dispel Chaos|dispel chaos]]/[[SRD:Dispel Evil|evil]]/[[SRD:Dispel Good|good]]/[[SRD:Dispel Law|law]]'', ''[[SRD:Legend Lore|legend lore]]'', ''[[SRD:Permanency|permanency]]'', ''[[SRD:Plane Shift|plane shift]]'', ''[[SRD:Prying Eyes|prying eyes]]'', ''[[SRD:Telepathic Bond|telepathic bond]]'', ''[[SRD:True Seeing|true seeing]]''&lt;br /&gt;
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6th&amp;amp;mdash;''[[SRD:Atonement|atonement]]'', ''[[SRD:Banishment|banishment]]'', ''[[SRD:Break Enchantment|break enchantment]]'', ''[[SRD:Find the Path|find the path]]'', ''[[SRD:Forbiddance|forbiddance]]'', ''[[SRD:Globe of Invulnerability|globe of invulnerability]]'', ''[[SRD:Greater Dispel Magic|greater dispel magic]]'', ''[[SRD:Planar Ally|planar ally]]'', ''[[SRD:Stone Tell|stone tell]]'', ''[[SRD:Word of Recall|word of recall]]''.&lt;br /&gt;
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7th&amp;amp;mdash;''[[SRD:Antimagic Field|antimagic field]]'', ''[[SRD:Ethereal Jaunt|ethereal jaunt]]'', ''[[SRD:Greater Arcane Sight|greater arcane sight]]'', ''[[SRD:Greater Scrying|greater scrying]]'', ''[[SRD:Limited Wish|limited wish]]'', ''[[SRD:Refuge|refuge]]'', ''[[SRD:Repulsion|repulsion]]'', ''[[SRD:Sequester|sequester]]'', ''[[SRD:Vision|vision]]''.&lt;br /&gt;
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8th&amp;amp;mdash;''[[SRD:Dimensional Lock|dimensional lock]]'', ''[[SRD:Discern Location|discern location]]'', ''[[SRD:Foresight|foresight]]'', ''[[SRD:Greater Planar Ally|greater planar ally]]'', ''[[SRD:Greater Prying Eyes|greater prying eyes]]'', ''[[SRD:Mind Blank|mind blank]]'', ''[[SRD:Moment of Prescience|moment of prescience]]''.&lt;br /&gt;
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9th&amp;amp;mdash;''[[SRD:Astral Projection|astral projection]]'', ''[[SRD:Etherealness|etherealness]]'', ''[[Gate|gate]]'', ''[[SRD:Mage's Disjunction|mage's disjunction]]'', ''[[Phenomenon Rejection (DnD Spell)|phenomenon rejection]]'', ''[[SRD:Wish|wish]]''.&lt;br /&gt;
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'''{{#anc:Planar Turning}} ([[Su]]):''' A deviant is able to turn and rebuke [[SRD:Elemental Type|elementals]] and [[SRD:Outsider Type|outsiders]] in the same manner in which [[SRD:Cleric|clerics]] [[SRD:Turn or Rebuke Undead|turn or rebuke undead]]. Planar entities with an alignment matching the deviant's are rebuked and others are turned. A neutral deviant may choose one of the four cardinal alignments ([[SRD:Chaotic Subtype|Chaotic]], [[SRD:Evil Subtype|Evil]], [[SRD:Good Subtype|Good]] or [[SRD:Lawful Subtype|Lawful]]) in relation to which he rebukes planar entities. Outsiders have an effective [[SRD:Turn Resistance|turn resistance]] equal to half their [[SRD:Spell Resistance|spell resistance]], rounded down. Both planar turning check and planar turning damage use [[Wisdom]] instead of [[Charisma]]. Elementals and outsiders that are 'destroyed' are [[SRD:Banishment|banished]] to their home plane instead. [[SRD:Native Subtype|Native]] outsiders cannot be affected by planar turning. When using planar turning, deviants get a bonus to their effective deviant level equal to their [[#Insight|deviant insight]] bonus if applicable. A deviant may use planar turning a number of times per day equal to 3 + his [[SRD:Wisdom|Wisdom]] modifier.&lt;br /&gt;
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'''{{#anc:Deviant Perception}} ([[Su]]):''' A deviant's perception extends beyond normal senses. He may use this deviant perception a number of minutes per day equal to his class level. Usage of this ability may be spread over multiple usages, round down to 1 minute periods. When active, the deviant gains an additional bonus to [[SRD:Listen Skill|Listen]], [[SRD:Search Skill|Search]] and [[SRD:Spot Skill|Spot]] checks equal to half his deviant level. In addition to that, the following effects become available to the deviant while his deviant perception is active. All saving throw DCs tied to this ability are [[SRD:Wisdom|Wisdom]] based.&lt;br /&gt;
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*When the deviant gets 5 ranks in [[Craft]] (alchemy) and 5 ranks in [[Heal]], his Deviant Perception includes a ''[[detect poison]]'' effect. When the deviant gets 5 ranks in [[Knowledge]] (nature) and 5 ranks in [[Survival]], he gains a ''[[Detect Animals or Plants (SRD Spell)|detect animals or plants]]'' effect as well.&lt;br /&gt;
*At 3rd level, the deviant gains the ability to detect auras belonging to alignment types (good, evil, law and chaos). This functions as ''[[detect good]]'', ''[[detect evil|evil]]'', ''[[detect law|law]]'' or ''[[detect chaos|chaos]]''. He may choose only one alignment type, and the type chosen must differ from his own.&lt;br /&gt;
*At 6th level, the deviant gains the ability to discern lies. This functions as the ''[[SRD:Discern Lies|discern lies]]'' spell. This effect allows a [[SRD:Saving Throw#Will|Will]] saving throw to be resisted.&lt;br /&gt;
*At 9th level, the deviant gains the ability to skim surface thoughts of sentient beings. This functions as the ''[[detect thoughts]]'' spell. This effect allows a [[SRD:Saving Throw#Will|Will]] saving throw to be resisted.&lt;br /&gt;
*At 12th level, the deviant gains ''[[arcane sight]]''.&lt;br /&gt;
*At 18th level, the deviant learns to discern all magical effects that act upon any item that he sees, as the ''[[SRD:Analyze Dweomer|analyze dweomer]]'' spell. &lt;br /&gt;
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'''{{#anc:Banishing Strike}} ([[SRD:Supernatural Ability|Su]]):''' As a [[SRD:Standard Actions|standard action]], a deviant of 4th level or higher can force an [[SRD:Extraplanar Subtype|extraplanar]] creature back to its home plane with a successful melee [[SRD:Touch Attack|touch attack]], unless the creature succeeds on a [[SRD:Saving Throw#Will|Will]] saving throw with a DC of 10 + ½ deviant's level + deviant's [[SRD:Wisdom|Wis]] modifier. A deviant may attempt a banishing strike a number of times per day equal to half his class level.&lt;br /&gt;
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'''{{#anc:Deviant Insight}} ([[Ex]]):''' With experience comes insight. At 5th level, the deviant gains a +1 insight bonus to [[Armor Class]], [[Reflex]] saves and [[Wisdom]] based class skills. The deviant insight bonus furthermore applies to [[#Planar Turning|planar turning]] and the deviant gets double his deviant insight bonus to all [[SRD:Concentration Skill|Concentration]] checks. This insight bonus increases with another +1 every 5 levels thereafter (+2 at 10th level, +3 at 15th, and so forth).&lt;br /&gt;
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'''{{#anc:Planar Mastery}} ([[SRD:Supernatural Ability|Su]]):''' At 7th level a deviant can transport himself from one location to another on the same plane, as per the spell ''[[SRD:Teleport|teleport]]'' once per day. [[SRD:Caster Level|Caster level]] is equal to the deviant's class level. Also, the deviant gets a [[SRD:Spell Resistance|spell resistance]] of 5 + his class level to resist the effects of ''[[SRD:Dimensional Anchor|dimensional anchors]]'', ''[[SRD:Dimensional Lock|dimensional locks]]'' and other such effects that impede his magical travels.&lt;br /&gt;
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'''{{#anc:Reach Out}} ([[Su]]):''' At 8th level, the deviant gains the ability to forge and maintain a ''[[Telepathic Bond (SRD Spell)|telepathic bond]]'' with one willing creature per 4 deviant levels as long as no two of these allies are more than 1 mile apart. The deviant may create and break his own telepathic bonds at will, with no [[SRD:Concentration Skill|Concentration]] requirement.&lt;br /&gt;
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'''{{#anc:Greater Planar Turning}} ([[SRD:Supernatural Ability|Su]]):''' At 10th level, whenever a deviant successfully [[#Planar Turning|turns]] an [[SRD:Elemental Type|elemental]] or [[SRD:Outsider Type|outsider]], it is [[SRD:Banishment|banished]] instead.&lt;br /&gt;
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'''{{#anc:True Sight}} ([[Su]]):''' At 11th level, the deviant gains ''[[SRD:True Seeing|true seeing]]'' out to 60 ft. This ability is always active. At 18th level, the range of a deviant's true sight becomes 120 ft.&lt;br /&gt;
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'''{{#anc:Commune}} ([[Su]]):''' At 12th level, the deviant can commune with certain special and unique spirits and creatures once per day. When a deviant is at a certain location, such as a dungeon, crypt, grove, mausoleum, cemetery, or any other place associated to the physical or spiritual remains of certain individuals, he can invoke these spirits or creatures in order to gain information. This ability functions as a combination of a ''[[SRD:Speak with Dead|speak with dead]]'' and a ''[[SRD:Refuge|refuge]]'' spell, except that the commune may be centered upon either an object or a location. When used, the ability attempts to transfer the possessor of an item, the keeper of a place, or someone to whom the item or place holds great significance, to you. Usually, but not necessarily, this particular creature is the ghostly spirit of a unique creature.&lt;br /&gt;
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Once the spirit appears, the deviant may ask it up to 1 question per 2 deviant levels. Only questions relevant to the target of the commune (item or location) will be answered, but unrelated questions still count towards the maximum and are wasted. On a result of 1-95 on a d%, the spirit called will know the answer to a question without fail, but the spirit possesses free will and may choose not to divulge the answer or lie. Like with ''[[Contact Other Plane (SRD Spell)|contact other plane]]'', the deviant rolls another d% to see whether he receives a true answer or a lie. In the event that the spirit knows, a result of 1–90 means truth and a result of 91–100 means lie.&lt;br /&gt;
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The number of times that the deviant may use commune increases to 2 at 16th level and to 3 at 20th level.&lt;br /&gt;
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'''{{#anc:Greater Planar Mastery}} ([[SRD:Supernatural Ability|Su]]):''' At 13th level a deviant can transport himself from one location to another on the same plane as per the spell ''[[SRD:Greater Teleport|greater teleport]]'', once per day. He may also travel between planes as per the spell ''[[SRD:Plane Shift|plane shift]]'' once per day, except he arrives exactly where he wants to on the intended plane. The [[SRD:Spell Resistance|spell resistance]] to travel-impeding spells granted by [[#Planar Mastery|planar mastery]] increases to 10 + the deviant's class level. This ability supercedes and replaces [[#Planar Mastery|planar mastery]].&lt;br /&gt;
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'''{{#anc:Planar Barring}} ([[SRD:Supernatural Ability|Su]]):''' At 14th level, the deviant can readily influence the convolution of the planes in his close proximity. He can emanate a ''[[SRD:Dimensional Lock|dimensional lock]]'' effect with a radius of 100 ft. centered on himself, barring all extradimensional travel into and out of his close surroundings. Within this area of effect, only the deviant himself is unimpeded. The deviant may turn this emanation field on or off at will, but only during his turn. Since this is a [[SRD:Supernatural Ability|supernatural ability]], [[SRD:Spell Resistance|spell resistance]] is not in effect, but creatures that are already in ethereal or astral form when the field hits them are still unaffected. If two planar barring fields touch, their effects overlap, and neither deviant is affected by the other unless one of the deviants is at least 4 levels higher than the other.&lt;br /&gt;
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'''{{#anc:Timeless Communion}} ([[Su]]):''' At 17th level, the deviant gains even further ability to reach out to spirits or creatures that might reward his efforts with valuable information. Timeless communion functions as [[#Commune|Commune]], except that the deviant may channel his mind through time itself. The deviant’s mind may journey into the past up to a number of years ago equal to the deviant's level plus his [[Knowledge]] (history) modifier. The deviant cannot look into the future. A timeless communion requires 10 minutes to establish, and the deviant may take up to one of his willing allies along into the communion.&lt;br /&gt;
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Looking into the past with this ability functions as follows. As he enters the communion, he leaves his body behind in the real world. The mind enters a visual and mental representation of the location he is in or of the location of the item he is focusing on. This representation contains all items, spaces, objects and people that were there at that moment in time. Any sentient creatures present in the Timeless Communion may be asked questions. Unlike [[#Commune|Commune]] or [[#Reach Out|Reach Out]], the Timeless Communion, once started, lasts a number of minutes equal to 5 + the deviant’s [[Intelligence]] modifier. Within this time, the deviant may inquire with any creature or examine any objects present in the Timeless Communion. Inside the communion, the deviant may stray no more than 10 ft. per deviant level from the location where he initiated the communion. Doing so will terminate the communion. It is impossible to take any items found within the communion back to the real world.&lt;br /&gt;
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''Move Back or Forth in time:'' Within limits, the deviant may shift his communion back and forth in time through mental focus. Attempting to stretch the timeless communion beyond its established limits will end the communion. Moving the communion back and forth in time requires a [[Concentration]] check with DC of 30 plus the number of years of the shift. Any shift smaller than half a year requires a DC 30 [[Concentration]] check, but for larger periods, the DC is rounded up to a whole number of years.&lt;br /&gt;
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''Lifepath:'' When the communion is initiated while focusing upon the remains of a creature, the deviant may follow part of the path taken by that creature in life. In this special application, the timeless communion displays the experiences of the person in question, allowing the deviant to track his movements across time within the usual limits of the timeless communion. If the Timeless Communion ability is used in this manner, the deviant may only observe and is unable to interact with the environment or ask questions.&lt;br /&gt;
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Through the timeless communion, the deviant may learn many things. The significance of a location, the fate befallen by a certain unique individual, the lore of lost kingdoms and bloodlines and legacies of former rulers, the possible location of certain unique magic items, the answers to a mystery, the knowledge as to who committed certain unsolved crimes, etcetera.&lt;br /&gt;
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Timeless communion counts towards the deviant's daily usages of [[#Commune|commune]].&lt;br /&gt;
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'''{{#anc:Supreme Planar Mastery}} ([[SRD:Supernatural Ability|Su]]):''' At 19th level a deviant can transport himself from one location to another on the same plane as per the spell ''[[SRD:Greater Teleport|greater teleport]]'', once per hour. Furthermore, he can travel in a multitude of ways. He may cast one of the following spells of his choice - ''[[SRD:Astral Projection|astral projection]]'', ''[[SRD:Etherealness|etherealness]]'', ''[[SRD:Gate|gate]]'' or ''[[SRD:Teleportation Circle|teleportation circle]]'' - a total of three times per day, with a minimum of one hour between successive castings. The [[SRD:Spell Resistance|spell resistance]] to travel-impeding spells granted by [[#Greater Planar Mastery|greater planar mastery]] increases to 15 + the deviant's class level. This ability supercedes and replaces [[#Greater Planar Mastery|greater planar mastery]].&lt;br /&gt;
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==== Ex-Deviants ====&lt;br /&gt;
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A deviant that voluntarily leaves the path of the deviants behind him or abandons his philosophy by swaying to extreme alignments may no longer take any levels in the deviant class. He however retains all abilities he gained from his class. If he so wishes, he may atone (as in the ''[[Atonement (SRD Spell)|atonement]]'' spell) to be able to continue as a deviant.&lt;br /&gt;
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==== Epic Deviant ====&lt;br /&gt;
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{| class=&amp;quot;{{d20}}&amp;quot;&lt;br /&gt;
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Hit Die: d4&lt;br /&gt;
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! Level !! Special&lt;br /&gt;
|- class=&amp;quot;{{Odd-Even}}&amp;quot;&lt;br /&gt;
|21st|| class=&amp;quot;left&amp;quot; | &lt;br /&gt;
|- class=&amp;quot;{{Odd-Even}}&amp;quot;&lt;br /&gt;
|22nd|| class=&amp;quot;left&amp;quot; | &lt;br /&gt;
|- class=&amp;quot;{{Odd-Even}}&amp;quot;&lt;br /&gt;
|23rd|| class=&amp;quot;left&amp;quot; | [[#Epic Commune|Commune]] 4/day&lt;br /&gt;
|- class=&amp;quot;{{Odd-Even}}&amp;quot;&lt;br /&gt;
|24th|| class=&amp;quot;left&amp;quot; | [[#Bonus Feat|Bonus Feat]]&lt;br /&gt;
|- class=&amp;quot;{{Odd-Even}}&amp;quot;&lt;br /&gt;
|25th|| class=&amp;quot;left&amp;quot; | [[#Epic Insight|Deviant Insight]] +5&lt;br /&gt;
|- class=&amp;quot;{{Odd-Even}}&amp;quot;&lt;br /&gt;
|26th|| class=&amp;quot;left&amp;quot; | [[#Epic Commune|Commune]] 5/day&lt;br /&gt;
|- class=&amp;quot;{{Odd-Even}}&amp;quot;&lt;br /&gt;
|27th|| class=&amp;quot;left&amp;quot; | &lt;br /&gt;
|- class=&amp;quot;{{Odd-Even}}&amp;quot;&lt;br /&gt;
|28th|| class=&amp;quot;left&amp;quot; | [[#Bonus Feat|Bonus Feat]]&lt;br /&gt;
|- class=&amp;quot;{{Odd-Even}}&amp;quot;&lt;br /&gt;
|29th|| class=&amp;quot;left&amp;quot; | [[#Epic Commune|Commune]] 6/day&lt;br /&gt;
|- class=&amp;quot;{{Odd-Even}}&amp;quot;&lt;br /&gt;
|30th|| class=&amp;quot;left&amp;quot; | [[#Epic Insight|Deviant Insight]] +6&lt;br /&gt;
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| colspan=&amp;quot;42&amp;quot; class=&amp;quot;skill&amp;quot; |&lt;br /&gt;
8 + [[SRD:Intelligence|Int]] modifier skill points per level.&lt;br /&gt;
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'''Spells:''' The deviant’s caster level is equal to his class level. The deviant’s number of spells does not increase after 20th level.&lt;br /&gt;
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'''&amp;lt;span id=&amp;quot;Epic Commune&amp;quot;&amp;gt;Commune:&amp;lt;/span id&amp;gt;''' The deviant gains additional usages of his [[#Commune|Commune]] ability every 3 levels after 20 (5/day at 23rd, 6/day at 26th, etc.).&lt;br /&gt;
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'''&amp;lt;span id=&amp;quot;Epic Insight&amp;quot;&amp;gt;Deviant Insight:&amp;lt;/span id&amp;gt;''' This ability continues to increase normally after 20th level, by 1 every five levels. (+5 at 25th, +6 at 30th, etc)&lt;br /&gt;
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'''&amp;lt;span id=&amp;quot;Bonus Feat&amp;quot;&amp;gt;Bonus Feats:&amp;lt;/span id&amp;gt;''' The epic deviant gains a bonus feat (selected from the list of epic deviant bonus feats) every 4 levels after 20th.&lt;br /&gt;
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''Epic Deviant Bonus Feat List:'' [[Armor Skin]], [[Automatic Quicken Spell]], [[Craft Epic Magic Arms and Armor]], [[Craft Epic Rod]], [[Craft Epic Staff]], [[Craft Epic Wondrous Item (SRD Epic Feat)|Craft Epic Wondrous Item]], [[Damage Reduction]], [[Energy Resistance]], [[Epic Prowess]], [[Epic Skill Focus]], [[Extended Life Span (SRD Epic Feat)|Extended Life Span]], [[Fast Healing]], [[Forge Epic Ring]], [[Improved Combat Casting (SRD Epic Feat)|Improved Combat Casting]], [[Multispell (SRD Epic Feat)|Multispell]], [[Permanent Emanation (SRD Epic Feat)|Permanent Emanation]], [[Polyglot]], [[Spell Stowaway (SRD Epic Feat)|Spell Stowaway]]&lt;br /&gt;
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==== Human Deviant Starting Package ====&lt;br /&gt;
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'''Armor:''' None (speed 30 ft.)&lt;br /&gt;
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'''Weapons:''' [[Light mace]] (1d6, crit ×2, 4 lb., one-handed, bludgeoning). [[Light crossbow]] (1d8, crit 19-20/×2, range inc. 80 ft., 4 lb., piercing). &lt;br /&gt;
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'''Skill Selection:''' Pick a number of skills equal to 9 + [[Int]] modifier.&lt;br /&gt;
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{| class=&amp;quot;{{d20}}&amp;quot;&lt;br /&gt;
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! class=&amp;quot;left&amp;quot; | Skill || Ranks || Ability || Armor&amp;lt;br/&amp;gt;Check&amp;lt;br/&amp;gt;Penalty&lt;br /&gt;
|- class=&amp;quot;{{Odd-Even}}&amp;quot;&lt;br /&gt;
| class=&amp;quot;left&amp;quot; | [[Knowledge]] (history) || 4 || [[Int]] || — &lt;br /&gt;
|- class=&amp;quot;{{Odd-Even}}&amp;quot;&lt;br /&gt;
| class=&amp;quot;left&amp;quot; | [[Spellcraft]] || 4 || [[Int]] || —&lt;br /&gt;
|- class=&amp;quot;{{Odd-Even}}&amp;quot;&lt;br /&gt;
| class=&amp;quot;left&amp;quot; | [[Knowledge]] (lore) || 4 || [[Int]] || — &lt;br /&gt;
|- class=&amp;quot;{{Odd-Even}}&amp;quot;&lt;br /&gt;
| class=&amp;quot;left&amp;quot; | [[Concentration]] || 4 || [[Con]] || —&lt;br /&gt;
|- class=&amp;quot;{{Odd-Even}}&amp;quot;&lt;br /&gt;
| class=&amp;quot;left&amp;quot; | [[Heal]] || 4 || [[Wis]] || — &lt;br /&gt;
|- class=&amp;quot;{{Odd-Even}}&amp;quot;&lt;br /&gt;
| class=&amp;quot;left&amp;quot; | [[Sense Motive]] || 4 || [[Wis]] || —&lt;br /&gt;
|- class=&amp;quot;{{Odd-Even}}&amp;quot;&lt;br /&gt;
| class=&amp;quot;left&amp;quot; | [[Survival]] || 4 || [[Wis]] || — &lt;br /&gt;
|- class=&amp;quot;{{Odd-Even}}&amp;quot;&lt;br /&gt;
| class=&amp;quot;left&amp;quot; | [[Listen]] || 4 || [[Wis]] || —&lt;br /&gt;
|- class=&amp;quot;{{Odd-Even}}&amp;quot;&lt;br /&gt;
| class=&amp;quot;left&amp;quot; | [[Knowledge]] (the planes) || 4 || [[Int]] || — &lt;br /&gt;
|- class=&amp;quot;{{Odd-Even}}&amp;quot;&lt;br /&gt;
| class=&amp;quot;left&amp;quot; | [[Knowledge]] (religion) || 4 || [[Int]] || —&lt;br /&gt;
|- class=&amp;quot;{{Odd-Even}}&amp;quot;&lt;br /&gt;
| class=&amp;quot;left&amp;quot; | [[Knowledge]] (nature) || 4 || [[Int]] || — &lt;br /&gt;
|- class=&amp;quot;{{Odd-Even}}&amp;quot;&lt;br /&gt;
| class=&amp;quot;left&amp;quot; | [[Craft]] (alchemy) || 4 || [[Int]] || —&lt;br /&gt;
|- class=&amp;quot;{{Odd-Even}}&amp;quot;&lt;br /&gt;
| class=&amp;quot;left&amp;quot; | [[Perform]] (oratory) || 4 || [[Cha]] || — &lt;br /&gt;
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'''Feat:''' [[Toughness]]&lt;br /&gt;
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'''Bonus Feat:''' [[Spell Focus]] ([[divination]])&lt;br /&gt;
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'''Gear:''' Backpack with waterskin, one day's trail rations, bedroll, sack and flint and steel. Case with 10 crossbow bolts. Wooden holy symbol (sun disc of pelor). Three torches.&lt;br /&gt;
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'''Gold:''' 25 gp&lt;br /&gt;
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=== Campaign Information ===&lt;br /&gt;
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==== Playing a Deviant ====&lt;br /&gt;
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'''Religion:''' Although religion itself is not important to the deviant, he does believe - and believe profoundly - in the existence and significance of greater beings such as gods. They might revere them,  but mostly they respect them and research them in order to gain more understanding about the cosmos. Why do deities what they do, and what is the effect upon the world that we live in? That is one of the questions that a deviant is likely to pursue, and for that, worshipping a deity might help light that path.&lt;br /&gt;
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'''Other Classes:''' The deviant exercises a strong communion not only with the world itself, but with the people in it. They bond easily, and their friendship often extends to wise words and advice. Because deviants are neither great fighters nor offensive spellcasters, they tend to work best when other people in the party fulfill those needs, enabling the deviant to focus on observation and study.&lt;br /&gt;
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'''Combat:''' Deviants are support characters, and their greatest hours come and pass outside of the confines of combat. Their great perception allows them to identify threats before other characters, whilst their ability to do planar turning can drastically thin out any battlefield.&lt;br /&gt;
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'''Advancement:''' [[Rogue|Rogues]] with levels in deviant or vice versa have huge amounts of different skills, able to reap the benefits of both classes fully without the need of spreading skillpoints too far. The same goes for neutral [[bard|bards]] &lt;br /&gt;
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Although the deviant may not be very compatible to many interesting prestige classes, it does not come without its own chance for advancement. Their [[divination]] focused spellcasting and dependency on many types of knowledge make the deviant the perfect candidate for the [[loremaster]] prestige class. Deviants also make for good [[horizon walker|horizon walkers]]. Other prestige classes that hinge primarily on skill based prerequisites are more readily available to a well customized deviant.&lt;br /&gt;
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==== Deviants in the World ====&lt;br /&gt;
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|Dimmald is an old man. When you see him, he's oft lost in his thoughts. Trudging by seemingly aimlessly. His own instincts guide him through every day and every step, and no one knows in which corner of Waterdeep he will end up as the sun disappears.&lt;br /&gt;
|orig=Jozic Frigh, Half-Orc Innkeeper&lt;br /&gt;
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The deviant walks the world and lets the world touch him without touching it. He generally goes wherever his desire for enlightenment and understanding takes him. Where one seeks the duplicity of city life, the other seeks isolation on the highest mountain peak. The locales and environs in which the deviants roam are as varied as the deviants themselves. Some experience their unique brand of understanding through song and music, whereas others enjoy the silence and the spray of the sea. They are everywhere, and yet they are most often hardly heard of.&lt;br /&gt;
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'''Daily Life:''' You will not often see the deviant keep a log of where he went and what he did one day. Cataloguing such mundane experiences did not bring a feasible reward. They have their own rhythm, and yet that rhythm is quite often broken. They find comfort in change, as change is nature. A day in the life of a deviant is however quite gentle and slow. They sit back to stare at life's conundrums, and drink a good glass of wine as they mull it over. They contemplate their thoughts and findings over slow paced games. And, when the day has gone, the deviant usually goes back to bed with the smile of a contented hermit on his face.&lt;br /&gt;
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'''Notables:''' Fame is not something a deviant desires. The old hermit atop the mountain, the young man that observes the stars for days on end. Few deviants make names for themselves, as fame detracts from the pursuit of enlightenment.&lt;br /&gt;
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'''Organizations:''' Deviants make no organizations; they wish to see the diversity of the material plane for themselves, unfettered by unnecessary bonds of organization and rather focusing upon their bonds with the living things that surround them. If any form of conglomeration of wizened old sages coming together is to be called an organization, then perhaps the philosophers of hidden circles may be the closest thing to some form of organizations that deviants come to.&lt;br /&gt;
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'''NPC Reactions:''' They may find them strange, or think them preoccupied. When others look at the deviant, it is often with a look that signifies a lack of understanding. Despite this, the wizened deviants of the world are hardly prone to being disliked or ostracized. Their aims are honorable, and they take their philosophical journeys without forcing them on others.&lt;br /&gt;
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==== Deviant Lore ====&lt;br /&gt;
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As numerous as deviants are, though rare in character and their great mental acumen, their lore is as diverse as their set of skills.&lt;br /&gt;
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Characters with ranks in [[SRD:Knowledge Skill|Knowledge]] (local) can research deviants to learn more about them.  When a character makes a skill check, read or paraphrase the following, including information from lower DCs.&lt;br /&gt;
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{| class=&amp;quot;{{d20}}&amp;quot;&lt;br /&gt;
|+ [[SRD:Knowledge Skill|Knowledge]] (local)&lt;br /&gt;
! DC || class=&amp;quot;left&amp;quot; | Result&lt;br /&gt;
|- class=&amp;quot;{{Odd-Even}}&amp;quot;&lt;br /&gt;
| 5 || class=&amp;quot;left&amp;quot; | Deviants are retainers of old philosophies, and oft share them over joined contemplation&lt;br /&gt;
|- class=&amp;quot;{{Odd-Even}}&amp;quot;&lt;br /&gt;
| 10 || class=&amp;quot;left&amp;quot; | Deviants seek understanding in nature, and learn to emanate such natural forces to protect and bolster themselves and their companions greatly.&lt;br /&gt;
|- class=&amp;quot;{{Odd-Even}}&amp;quot;&lt;br /&gt;
| 15 || class=&amp;quot;left&amp;quot; | A deviant's perception is very advanced; they stare with many different eyes, and their perception allows them to detect many things, from poisons to magic, to the very moral and ethical intents of a person.&lt;br /&gt;
|- class=&amp;quot;{{Odd-Even}}&amp;quot;&lt;br /&gt;
| 20 || class=&amp;quot;left&amp;quot; | A deviant's [[SRD:Divination School|divination]] is so profound that he may stretch out his mind through time itself, to reclaim lost knowledge.&lt;br /&gt;
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==== Deviants in the Game ====&lt;br /&gt;
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Tellers, travelers, wanderers, ascetics, pacifists, chroniclers, loremasters, seekers and doers. The deviant is it all, using their profound perceptive qualities in order to help their comrades. A deviant sees many things that other people can't, and uses his innate emanations in order to strengthen or defend. Deviants are the outsider's bane; their profound understanding of the cosmos allows them to whisk away disagreeable elementals and outsiders to their native planes. The player of a deviant befalls the task of roleplaying out this singular playstyled class the way he or she wants.&lt;br /&gt;
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'''Sample Encounter:''' In order for the PCs to procure the knowledge they need in order to find a forlorn treasure within a desolate and abandoned land wracked by constant storms, or the far-hidden lair of a [[SRD:Blue Dragon|blue dragon]] tyrant within the flotsam of a largely frozen ocean, the party seeks out a well-known oracle. Living detached from worldly cares, this spirited old man inhabits a peculiar hovel at the far edge of civilization, where he holds audiences to curious loreseekers and searches the threads of fate for an answer to their concerns in return for a fee either in gold or in cultural paraphernalia.&lt;br /&gt;
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		<title>User talk:Zanni</title>
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		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;Surgo: /* WTF */&lt;/p&gt;
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&lt;div&gt;==New Wiki==&lt;br /&gt;
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Hey Zanni, most of us have moved away from here to a new wiki. You can find it at [http://dungeons.wikia.com this link]. [[User:Surgo|Surgo]] 19:43, 25 August 2009 (MDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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: Interesting, I look at it when I have time. As far as I can tell, the front page look good. --[[User:Zanni|The Zanni]] 19:45, 25 August 2009 (MDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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::Part of what I meant was &amp;quot;all of us who actually appreciate the Tome material&amp;quot;. [[User:Surgo|Surgo]] 19:47, 25 August 2009 (MDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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::: Oh that actually quite cool, I sure check it out once I actually use my computer ;). The small french community I was part of died off, someone actually brought us translated tomes (I wish I could get my hand of them but even google failed me). --[[User:Zanni|The Zanni]] 19:54, 25 August 2009 (MDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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:::: Surgo.  I like the new site.  Its nice.  Good job getting it up and running.  You never disappoint.  gl.  --[[User:Jay Freedman|Jay Freedman]] 19:57, 25 August 2009 (MDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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:::::Unless I've got the users wrong, [[User:Lord Dhazriel|Lord Dhazriel]] is french, and I believe he added alot of french material here to the wiki.  May be worth a glance at his contributions.  If I'm wrong and it was a different user someone correct me. &amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;lt;small&amp;gt;&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;border: 1px solid black; -moz-border-radius:10px&amp;quot;&amp;gt;[[User:Hooper|'''&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;background-color:White; color:Black; -moz-border-radius-topleft:10px; -moz-border-radius-bottomleft:10px&amp;quot;&amp;gt;  Hooper  &amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;''']][[User talk:Hooper|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;background-color:Black; color:white; -moz-border-radius-bottomleft:10px; -moz-border-radius-topleft:10px&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;amp;nbsp;talk&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]][[Special:Contributions/Hooper|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;background-color:black; color:white&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;amp;nbsp;contribs&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]][[Special:Emailuser/Hooper|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;background-color:black; color:white; -moz-border-radius-bottomright:10px; -moz-border-radius-topright:10px&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;amp;nbsp;email&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]]&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;&amp;lt;/small&amp;gt; 20:02, 25 August 2009 (MDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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:::::: If you could point me to the original website, Zanni, I bet I could find the translated tomes again. Those would be really awesome to have. [[User:Surgo|Surgo]] 20:07, 25 August 2009 (MDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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::::::: The whole thing really and literally died out, the original website is no more for about 1 years now. I am still looking in my old contact to find them again, if I could get the guy email again. The translation was okay, it was clearly machine translated + a bit of manual translation but it was readable. If I had the courage I would translate them myself, but it a pain in the a$$ to do so. Anyway, I am at work now, we can talk more about this later. --[[User:Zanni|The Zanni]] 20:14, 25 August 2009 (MDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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:::::::: Extra time for story-telling: After the site closed it door, me and a group of it userbase were gaming together in a chat-based game. One of the guy wanted to play with the tomes, but not all users knew english. So he translated them and emailed them to us. We never had the tome on the site, but in the hand of a small chat community. To clear nay confusion, now the gaming group is now dissolved and I changed computer so I am trying to get in contact with guy who translated the tome but most don,t answer back so I am here reading them in english today. Now I can give more details later if you don't mind. Notes: I may inconsistent, I was off the Internet for a while afterward and may be mixing dates. I like the logo btw. --[[User:Zanni|The Zanni]] 20:29, 25 August 2009 (MDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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:::::::::@GD.  Long ago Zanni had French Tome stuff.  He lost it.  --[[User:129.123.242.2|129.123.242.2]] 20:40, 25 August 2009 (MDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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::::::::::Lorddhazriel@gmail.com, email me I have active friends in the community. LAso Hooper I never made any french contribution. --[[User:Lord Dhazriel|Dhazriel]] 20:44, 25 August 2009 (MDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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:::::::::::Hmm?  But someone was maintaining a french section on this website though, right?  French SRD i thought? &amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;lt;small&amp;gt;&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;border: 1px solid black; -moz-border-radius:10px&amp;quot;&amp;gt;[[User:Hooper|'''&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;background-color:White; color:Black; -moz-border-radius-topleft:10px; -moz-border-radius-bottomleft:10px&amp;quot;&amp;gt;  Hooper  &amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;''']][[User talk:Hooper|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;background-color:Black; color:white; -moz-border-radius-bottomleft:10px; -moz-border-radius-topleft:10px&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;amp;nbsp;talk&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]][[Special:Contributions/Hooper|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;background-color:black; color:white&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;amp;nbsp;contribs&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]][[Special:Emailuser/Hooper|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;background-color:black; color:white; -moz-border-radius-bottomright:10px; -moz-border-radius-topright:10px&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;amp;nbsp;email&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]]&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;&amp;lt;/small&amp;gt; 20:50, 25 August 2009 (MDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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:You guys need to take this discussion (about Wikia's wiki's) onto Wikia's pages.  I have nothing to do with it.  --[[User:Green Dragon|Green Dragon]] 21:37, 25 August 2009 (MDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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== French Pages ==&lt;br /&gt;
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There is this: [[3.5:DRS:La Base]].  If you search for French you'll get some other stuff, but you'll know better what to search for than I.  I know I ran across a category of french pages, and I think it was a french translation of SRD material.  Cant find it though. &amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;lt;small&amp;gt;&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;border: 1px solid black; -moz-border-radius:10px&amp;quot;&amp;gt;[[User:Hooper|'''&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;background-color:White; color:Black; -moz-border-radius-topleft:10px; -moz-border-radius-bottomleft:10px&amp;quot;&amp;gt;  Hooper  &amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;''']][[User talk:Hooper|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;background-color:Black; color:white; -moz-border-radius-bottomleft:10px; -moz-border-radius-topleft:10px&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;amp;nbsp;talk&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]][[Special:Contributions/Hooper|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;background-color:black; color:white&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;amp;nbsp;contribs&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]][[Special:Emailuser/Hooper|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;background-color:black; color:white; -moz-border-radius-bottomright:10px; -moz-border-radius-topright:10px&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;amp;nbsp;email&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]]&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;&amp;lt;/small&amp;gt; 20:57, 25 August 2009 (MDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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== All Apologies ==&lt;br /&gt;
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I'm sorry your user page got turned into a battle zone.  This reflects poorly of members of both wikis, and I'm very sorry a relatively new user was exposed to it. &amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;lt;small&amp;gt;&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;border: 1px solid black; -moz-border-radius:10px&amp;quot;&amp;gt;[[User:Hooper|'''&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;background-color:White; color:Black; -moz-border-radius-topleft:10px; -moz-border-radius-bottomleft:10px&amp;quot;&amp;gt;  Hooper  &amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;''']][[User talk:Hooper|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;background-color:Black; color:white; -moz-border-radius-bottomleft:10px; -moz-border-radius-topleft:10px&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;amp;nbsp;talk&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]][[Special:Contributions/Hooper|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;background-color:black; color:white&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;amp;nbsp;contribs&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]][[Special:Emailuser/Hooper|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;background-color:black; color:white; -moz-border-radius-bottomright:10px; -moz-border-radius-topright:10px&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;amp;nbsp;email&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]]&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;&amp;lt;/small&amp;gt; 21:16, 25 August 2009 (MDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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:How does it reflect poorly of BOTH members, when members of Surgo's wiki did nothing wrong, and only extend an invite, and the moderator of this wiki threw out baseless accusations that had no right to be on a random user's talk page? [[User:Dragon Child|Dragon Child]] 21:19, 25 August 2009 (MDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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::By doing this right here - responding, furthering an argument on this user's page.  You and I are doing it right now.  &amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;lt;small&amp;gt;&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;border: 1px solid black; -moz-border-radius:10px&amp;quot;&amp;gt;[[User:Hooper|'''&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;background-color:White; color:Black; -moz-border-radius-topleft:10px; -moz-border-radius-bottomleft:10px&amp;quot;&amp;gt;  Hooper  &amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;''']][[User talk:Hooper|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;background-color:Black; color:white; -moz-border-radius-bottomleft:10px; -moz-border-radius-topleft:10px&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;amp;nbsp;talk&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;amp;nbsp;&a