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== Welcome to D&D Wiki! == <br />
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Hello {{PAGENAME}}, and welcome to D&D Wiki. I hope you have been enjoying this site, and I hope you have been finding the information here on D&D Wiki useful. I am an admin (and, actually, the owner as well) here on D&D Wiki along with a couple other people who make up "The Face" of D&D Wiki. Everything relating to admins can be found [[Meta Pages#Administration|here]].<br />
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Formatting on D&D Wiki (or any wiki for that matter) can be very difficult, and if you need help a good place to start is [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Help:Editing Help:Editing] on Wikipedia (or even their [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Introduction Introduction] page). This will explain the basic wiki formatting and should provide quite a few useful links that explain more specific areas of wiki formatting. Again, if you have any questions about formatting on D&D Wiki please ask them as, I imagine, anybody will be more than happy to help you get them answered.<br />
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A strong and welcoming community exists on D&D Wiki, and I am sure you will find it rather nice. Most discussions take place on content talk pages, however please feel free to walk into [[Special:TheTavern|The Tavern]] (our local chat room) and talk to some fellow D&D Wikians. Anyway, on D&D Wiki, possibly since discussions are never deleted, people try to be nice. This means please follow Wikipedia's guidelines on [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Civility Civility] and [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Etiquette Etiquette] when discussing anything. Also, on a pretty different note, to ensure people know who posted what, please sign your name after a post with four tildes (<nowiki>~~~~</nowiki>) or by clicking on the signature icon. [[Image:Signature_icon.png]] This will automatically produce your name and the date. Anyway, I hope you come to love the close-knit D&D Wiki community and welcome again, you are now a D&D Wikian. --[[User:Green Dragon|Green Dragon]] 15:19, 12 April 2009 (MDT)<br />
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== E8 in Campaigns ==<br />
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Just a reminder before I answer your question, make sure you sign your posts with four tildes that way others can get back to you.<br />
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On the subject of campaigns and Epic 6/8. The whole idea of E6/8 is to limit character levels so that you stay within different playstyles. E6 and E8 put pressure on casters to not over-abuse their spells. And keep the players in the spot where they know that encounters are dangerous and could be fatal. As you approach other levels it becomes increasingly insignificant to limit level progression because players are already powerful enough and expanding into Prestige Classes to make it not mean much. At 11th level casters have access to 6th levels spells, and already have a huge repertoire of lower level spells that can easily end encounters. The players have gotten a good deal of magic equipment and can continue to gain that easily. This altogether defeats the purpose of limiting levels. Most people that I've seen have used E6, E8 or E10. Generally you don't want to stop at an odd level as prepared casters have an unfair advantage over spontaneous casters. - [[User:Sleaker|Sleaker]] 02:06, 2 April 2010 (UTC)<br />
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== Formatting ==<br />
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There is a formatting preload to do all the formatting for you somewhere. lemme dig it up real quick. <br />
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Found them. [[Create_New_Campaign_Setting]] by Valentine. He did a very good job, and I used his with minor adjustments. <br />
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- [[User:Sleaker|Sleaker]] 18:07, 3 April 2010 (UTC)<br />
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== Barnstar ==<br />
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{{Barnstar|[[User:Vrail|Vrail]] changed all the [[:Category:Variant Rule|Variant Rules]] and [[:Category:Setting|Campaign Settings]] pages from "DnD" to "3.5e". Thanks for your help. --[[User:Green Dragon|Green Dragon]] 18:42, 13 May 2010 (UTC)}}<br />
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:Wow, thanks! My first Barnstar! I'm so happy. ''':D'''--[[User:Vrail|Vrail]] 18:44, 13 May 2010 (UTC)<br />
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::Congrats dude. --[[User:Grim914|Grim914]] 03:33, 28 May 2010 (UTC)<br />
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== Activeness ==<br />
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Hi Vrail, I appreciate the shout out on my talk page... Yeah, I'm still active, posting new material now and then... I'm currently working at uploading a list of class-specific spells for the Battlemage, both my own and the others from an old Mongoose publication; I don't suppose you know how to set up a class spells page? I noticed that Keyblade Wielder class from Kingdom Hearts has one, and I reeeeeeeeeeealllllly need a spell list of my own. Any help on that would be wicked. Oh, and enjoy my work, this is for all of you guys. \m/ -- [[User:Danzig Nyttafjell|Danzig]] 01:36, 15 May 2010 (UTC)<br />
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:You ought to check out my user page and the battlemage spells list, both which I finished today. There's some stuff there you might dig. -- [[User:Danzig Nyttafjell|Danzig]] 09:03, 16 May 2010 (UTC)<br />
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== Spelling ==<br />
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It's sort of bad karma to edit the spelling/grammar of other people's posts. Formatting is fine if someone got the indentation wrong, though. Btw, since you were there, why don't you comment on poop-slinger? We're kinda going around in circles as it is. [[User:Jazzman831|Jazz]][[User talk:Jazzman831|Man]] 15:27, 15 May 2010 (UTC)<br />
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:Oh sorry, didn't mean to cause any discomfort, I'll be sure not to do it again. ''':)''' I was thinking about commenting, but I didn't really know what to say...--[[User:Vrail|Vrail]] 18:13, 16 May 2010 (UTC)<br />
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::Lol, I didn't mean to scold. It's just that I spent a lot of time on a wiki which did some pretty mean things, and certain things bring on my PTSD. [[User:Jazzman831|Jazz]][[User talk:Jazzman831|Man]] 03:02, 17 May 2010 (UTC)<br />
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:::NP, but you had a good point. ''':)'''--[[User:Vrail|Vrail]] 03:07, 17 May 2010 (UTC)<br />
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== DnD moves ==<br />
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First of all, AMAZING JOB. I didn't think you would actually not only move all those pages, but then fix and place deletion tags on all those redirects!! Looks like it's time for me to clear out the deletion category again, grrr...<br />
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If you are bored, I have some links you might like. Then again, you may not like them and for that I apologize. Firstly, there's [http://www.dandwiki.com/w/index.php?title=Special%3AAllPages&from=DnD&to=DnD+zz&namespace=0 Pages that start with DnD] and [http://www.dandwiki.com/w/index.php?ns0=1&ns1=1&ns2=1&ns3=1&ns4=1&ns5=1&ns6=1&ns7=1&ns8=1&ns9=1&ns10=1&ns11=1&ns12=1&ns13=1&ns14=1&ns15=1&ns100=1&ns101=1&ns102=1&ns103=1&ns104=1&ns105=1&ns106=1&ns107=1&ns152=1&ns153=1&ns154=1&ns155=1&ns156=1&ns157=1&ns158=1&ns159=1&redirs=1&search=DnD&title=Special%3ASearch&fulltext=Advanced+search&fulltext=Advanced+search pages that include the phrase DnD].<br />
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Also, I remembered something. Most of our preloads are nowiki'd, which means that they don't show up in categories and such, but the downside is that they also don't show up in "what links here" links. Some of those older preloads (I know, for example, [[DnD Material Preload]], which is what made me think of this in the first place) still link to Dungeons and Dragons, which is one of the pages I think you moved. <br />
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Oh, and one ''more'' thing about preloads: a lot of ''them'' have links to them that don't show up in the "what links here". So if you do move a preload, you have to make sure that you also move the "add a new X" page to link to the new location. But since the "add a new X" page uses an input box instead of a wikilink, it won't show up in the preload's "what links here" page. Does that make sense? [[User:Jazzman831|Jazz]][[User talk:Jazzman831|Man]] 15:40, 27 May 2010 (UTC)<br />
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:That makes some sense, I'm sure when I go back through it I can figure this out. It also looks like I'll have my work cut out for me moving all those DnD pages. Even after all that, half of those will probably create double redirects for me to fix too. ''':P''' --[[User:Vrail|Vrail]] 20:34, 27 May 2010 (UTC)<br />
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::Yup. :) [[User:Jazzman831|Jazz]][[User talk:Jazzman831|Man]] 22:37, 27 May 2010 (UTC)<br />
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:::I just noticed you moving the creature pages. If you would not mind could you move them to follow the format as found on [[D20 Modern Equipment]]? That is the full name then the designation first with regard to the previous type and then with regard to the page organization type, e.g. [[D20 Modern Equipment Progress Level 5 All]] (D20 Modern (<tt>1; designation of D&D Wiki, not the page</tt>) Equipment (<tt>2; designation of d20 Modern, not the page</tt>) Progress Level 5 (<tt>3; designation of equipment (at least how it is organized), not the page</tt>) All (<tt><<>>; general designation (exception), an 'all' organization type (all of the previous listed)</tt>). Does this make sense? So, for example, 3.5e Creatures CR 1. --[[User:Green Dragon|Green Dragon]] 20:48, 13 June 2010 (UTC)<br />
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::::I think this makes sense. So for example, just to make sure I'm getting it I would move (redirect fixed) to [[D20M NPCs CR 8]] instead of [[D20M CR 8 NPCs]]? --[[User:Vrail|Vrail]] 20:56, 13 June 2010 (UTC)<br />
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:::::Ya. Same for 3.5e of course, I'm not saying it's just d20 Modern. --[[User:Green Dragon|Green Dragon]] 20:57, 13 June 2010 (UTC)<br />
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::::::I noticed you moving some more pages. To note there is no need for two NPCs in a name. It's comparable to two 3.5e's, for example. --[[User:Green Dragon|Green Dragon]] 21:34, 17 June 2010 (UTC)<br />
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:::::::Oops! How many times did I do that? I'll go back through my contributions and fix em. ''':)''' --[[User:Vrail|Vrail]] 02:54, 18 June 2010 (UTC)<br />
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== Table of Contents ==<br />
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Vrail, I really need help creating the table of contents side bar for my campaign setting. Thanks :D --[[User:Grim914|Grim914]] 04:53, 31 May 2010 (UTC)<br />
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:Alright, I'm swamped with work for the next couple of days, but I'll for sure make one for you when I get a chance. ''':)''' --[[User:Vrail|Vrail]] 17:15, 31 May 2010 (UTC)<br />
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== Tavern re-opening MoI ==<br />
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Since you commented on Green Dragon's talk page about re-opening the tavern, I thought I would let you know that it's been over a week and I have made [[Discussion:Re-opening_the_tavern%3F_What_does_the_community_think%3F|this discussion]] to ask the community what they think. I would appreciate it if you could stop by and leave your two cents. Thanks, [[User:Badger|Badger]] 20:50, 10 June 2010 (UTC)<br />
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:Thanks for the notice, I left my comments. ''':)''' --[[User:Vrail|Vrail]] 02:54, 18 June 2010 (UTC)<br />
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== Protections on Pages Have Been Lowered ==<br />
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Commence page movement. —[[User:Sledged|Sledged]] ([[User talk:Sledged|talk]]) 22:20, 23 June 2010 (UTC)<br />
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:Thanks. One of the pages ([[DnD Guideline Preload]]) applies to both 3.5e and 4e, so I'm unsure what GD wants it moved to, so that'll take a day or two to sort out. --[[User:Vrail|Vrail]] 03:11, 24 June 2010 (UTC)<br />
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== Anti-Vandalism Barnstar ==<br />
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{{Anti-Vandal Barnstar|Thank you for your outstanding efforts in removing spam.--[[User:Grim914|Grim914]] 05:34, 27 June 2010 (UTC)}}<br />
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Congratulations! --[[User:Axl|Axl]] 02:18, 4 July 2010 (UTC)<br />
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:Thanks! --[[User:Vrail|Vrail]] 03:29, 5 July 2010 (UTC)<br />
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== Collapsible Text ==<br />
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A few weeks ago you gave me some help with collapsible text, and I've only just now gotten around to implementing it on my pages. After twiddling with it for a while I finally figured out how it all comes together, but I still have a question. Is there a way to make the text collapsed by default? What I'm trying to do is make a "DMs only" section on some of my pages, but the collapsible text is preformatted to be visible. I guess it's "collapsible" whereas I'm looking for "de-collapsible," if that makes sense. Any help? [[User:ThatGuyEli|ThatGuyEli]] 02:35, 19 July 2010 (UTC)<br />
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:Of course. ''':)''' To have it auto collapsed when you navigate to the page simply use this code:<br />
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:Hope that helps, remember, just ask if you ever need a thing. --[[User:Vrail|Vrail]] 03:08, 19 July 2010 (UTC)<br />
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::Adding the word collapsed after the word collapsible should do it. That is, your top line should say <nowiki>{|class="collapsible collapsed"</nowiki>. Simple, I know. Just a heads up, I'm pretty sure collapsible boxes don't work with every web browser. I know on Google Chrome I see all the text if the default is open (and no button to close it), and when the default is closed I don't see anything (and no button to open it). --[[User:Badger|Badger]] 03:09, 19 July 2010 (UTC)<br />
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:::Thanks for the help, guys! That worked perfectly. :) [[User:ThatGuyEli|ThatGuyEli]] 03:13, 19 July 2010 (UTC)<br />
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::::Sorry about the edit conflict, I didn't know if you'd be back tonight and I figured if I knew I might as well answer. --[[User:Badger|Badger]] 03:39, 19 July 2010 (UTC)<br />
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:::::Lol, np, I would've done the same thing ''':)''' --[[User:Vrail|Vrail]] 03:43, 19 July 2010 (UTC)<br />
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== Template ==<br />
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Hey Vrail,<br />
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:Do you know where the Hand Slot Item template is?<br />
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--[[User:Axl|Axl]] 22:58, 21 July 2010 (UTC)<br />
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:There is actually no specific template for hand slot items. If you wish to create one you are simply provided with the basic equipment template. Seeing as there are no other items in this section, you can probably look at items for other equipment slots or look at how things are formatted in the books if you want to be more specific or acurate than the basic template allows.<br />
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:Sorry I couldn't be of more help. --[[User:Vrail|Vrail]] 04:13, 22 July 2010 (UTC)<br />
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::That's okay, I just took it from a sourcebook. It seems that the Homebrew Arm slot items are either not showing up, or that nothing is supposed... Wait. No, that can't be it. My [[Assassin Bracers (4e Equipment)|Asassin Bracers]] are arm slot items, I think. So it should have ''something'' there. I've already asked Green Dragon, but I think the DPLs are still down. Maybe, I'll go check. --[[User:Axl|Axl]] 04:04, 24 July 2010 (UTC)<br />
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::Hmm, maybe it's in another category. Maybe that's not its name. --[[User:Axl|Axl]] 04:06, 24 July 2010 (UTC)<br />
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== Avern ==<br />
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Hey Vrail,<br />
:Do you know who the guy is that created the [[Avern (4e Race)]]? If he's not active, should I fix up his race?<br />
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--[[User:Axl|Axl]] 23:16, 3 August 2010 (UTC)<br />
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::The user who created the page is [[Samthere]]. He is also still active, having just posted on July 25th. He also created and last posted on the [[Avern (4e Race)|Avern]] on July 25th. However even though he is active it would be fine by all wiki standards if you went ahead and edited it anyways. A wiki is a collaborative work and any user can edit any page at any time. If the edits are poorly done, then they can simply be reverted. However it is generally considered proper etiquette to discuss the revisions on the talk page for the page in question, or the main editors talk page. However this is not a requirement. So ya, feel free to make any changes you want to the page. --[[User:Vrail|Vrail]] 16:15, 4 August 2010 (UTC)<br />
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:::All right, thanks. --[[User:Axl|Axl]] 00:53, 10 August 2010 (UTC)<br />
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::::Um, just one question. If you every have any free time on D&D Wiki, would you mind helping just insert feats, equipment, and whatever into my [[D&D 4.0 Future (4e Sourcebook)|sourcebook]]? I kinda need a little help. --[[User:Axl|Axl]] 00:54, 10 August 2010 (UTC)<br />
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:::::I'm not actually a 4e guy, really I just post in 3.5e. However if anything jumps out at me I'll add it. ''':)''' --[[User:Vrail|Vrail]] 00:58, 10 August 2010 (UTC)<br />
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::::::All right, thanks. I just need help. --[[User:Axl|Axl]] 02:02, 10 August 2010 (UTC)<br />
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== Deletion Templates ==<br />
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Next time you go through and add a bunch of delete templates to redirect pages, would you mind using the "minor edit" box? I like to keep track of the recent edits, and three dozen edits like that really clutter up the recent changes. Thanks. --[[User:Badger|Badger]] 12:25, 20 August 2010 (MDT)<br />
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:Sorry about that, I'll make sure I check that next time. I also monitor the recent changes page while I'm on the wiki so I know how you feel. Thanks for reminding me. ''':)''' --[[User:Vrail|Vrail]] 15:55, 20 August 2010 (MDT)<br />
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== Adminship ==<br />
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I would just like to notify people that I will not be here to see how my RfA concludes. Something came up in my life that I was not anticipating and I will be gone for the next week. Sorry for the inconvenience of not being able to post right away if my RfA does come through. Thanks for understanding. --[[User:Vrail|Vrail]] 18:09, 21 August 2010 (MDT)<br />
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:Welcome to Adminship. You are now part of "The Face" of D&D Wiki. Honestly, as you will notice, not much has been changed now that you are an admin. If anything, I would say more burden is placed on you. I recommend you take a look at [[Special:ListGroupRights]] if you have not already. Some of the the new features' uses pertaining to D&D Wiki follow. You can now delete pages, protect pages, rollback edits, block users and IP's, edit every page, patrol edits, and do a couple more minor things.<br />
:*Deleting pages is normally done through [[:Category:Candidates for Deletion]]. Anything with a good reason to be deleted on that page should be deleted. The other time pages should be deleted is when someone makes a certain page and after a few edits they either blank the page or replace it with something like "Please delete this". If this page consisted of close to just the preload, just delete it.<br />
:*Protecting pages has quite a few different times when it should be used. Pages should be protected according to the author's wishes (with [[Template:Locked Page]] added to the top of the page in question), in case of conflict (with [[Template:Temp Locked Page]] added to the top of the page in question), in case of [[Help:FAQ#What are OGL, OGC, SRD, and GNU FPL?|OGC]] published materials (with [[Template:OGL Top]] added to the top of the page in question and [[Template:OGL Bottom]] added to the bottom), or finally if the page is a vital part of D&D Wiki's organization. If it deals with D&D Wiki's organization it either needs to be be protected from IP edits or all non-sysop edits. As a rule of thumb pages up to two tiers deep (up for discussion/rethinking) from the [[Main Page]] are normally locked to anyone but sysops and all the others are just protected from IP edits. For Example [[3.5e Homebrew]] is protected from all non-sysop edits whereas a deeper in page like [[LA 0 Races]] is only protected from IP edits. No template needs to be added to pages if they are part of D&D Wiki's organization (even though some do exist like [[Template:Admin Locked Page]])<br />
:*Blocking a user or IP should only be used after an IP or user vandalizes a certain page. To block someone just click "block" (found on [[Special:Recentchanges|RC]], the diff in question, the userpage, etc) and fill out the corresponding form. For a typical vandalism attack I normally block the user for two weeks. Certain things demand a longer block and others a shorter. No standards have been set for block lengths, use your best judgment.<br />
:*Editing every page on D&D Wiki mostly means you can now edit the [[SRD:System Reference Document|SRD]] and the [[MSRD:Modern System Reference Document|MSRD]]. Feel free to edit them if inaccuracies are found. If interested further please look at the [[SRD Talk:System Reference Document#SRD ToDo List|SRD ToDO List]] or the [[MSRD Talk:Modern System Reference Document#Tasks|MSRD tasks]]. Of course that is only the base. There is never enough help to get everything done, so I am sure your help would be appreciated.<br />
:*Patrolling edits should, in a nutshell, be used when you have looked over an edit and fixed everything that needs to be fixed (this includes reviewing the content with templates, answering questions, etc).<br />
:I know this is really long-winded, so I'll keep the rest short. You have more burden on yourself now that you are an admin because users will be looking at you for editing help, knowledge of the standards, etc. It's a bit more work, but I really hope you enjoy being an admin and I hope you decide to stay around on D&D Wiki for a while more to come. Welcome to Adminship, again you're now part of "The Face" of D&D Wiki. --[[User:Green Dragon|Green Dragon]] 18:32, 24 August 2010 (MDT)<br />
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::I saw that you were made an admin and wanted to congratulate you. --[[User:Axl|Axl]] 15:31, 30 August 2010 (MDT)<br />
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:::I am terribly sorry that it took me so long to get back to the wiki. What I thought would take but a week turned out to be much more lengthy. Anyways, it's great that I was accepted as an admin and I will do my best to use these new powers to aid the wiki. --[[User:Vrail|Vrail]] 08:33, 3 September 2010 (MDT)<br />
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::::Thank you. --[[User:Vrail|Vrail]] 08:34, 3 September 2010 (MDT)<br />
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:::::Welcome again. A few things I have noticed. Talk pages get deleted with content pages. This is because the talk page's content no longer has any relevance. --[[User:Green Dragon|Green Dragon]] 17:22, 7 September 2010 (MDT)<br />
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== 4e Sizes ==<br />
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Hey Vrail,<br />
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:You wouldn't happen to know what are the size penalties (and benefits) for Medium-size and up, would ya? If you could tell me, that would be great.<br />
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--[[User:Axl|Axl]] 20:27, 8 September 2010 (MDT)<br />
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Never mind. --[[User:Axl|Axl]] 14:48, 16 September 2010 (MDT)<br />
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== Breadcrumb ==<br />
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Hey Vrail,<br />
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:I was wondering if you could delete the redirects for the template:4e EX Skill Feat Breadcrumb . T'would be nice.<br />
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--[[User:Axl|Axl]] 16:07, 25 October 2010 (MDT)<br />
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== An article could use your help ==<br />
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Hey, I know you've been inactive for awhile, and I don't know what your free-time looks like, but if you get a chance you should check out [[Blood_Knight_(3.5e_Prestige_Class)|Blood Knight]]. Green Dragon has made it a featured article, but there are many wording errors, and I know fixing all the wording problems used to be a goal of yours (don't know if it still is). Anyway, yeah, he's going through it, but there are going to be some things he misses, or thinks are fine as is, and it would be nice for a second pair of eyes to look over it (I can't, I'm pretty busy these days). Thanks. --[[User:Badger|Badger]] 17:32, 18 January 2011 (MST)<br />
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:He says that he might start going on again but i'm not too sure if he can soon. Might have to wait until the summer. --[[User:Grim914|Grim914]] 21:30, 24 February 2011 (MST)<br />
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::Alright. Good to know, thanks. --[[User:Badger|Badger]] 23:16, 24 February 2011 (MST)<br />
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:::He says that he is too busy with school, but i go to the same school as him and trust me, we do not have much work. It may be the fact that he works a lot on our adventure. Only reason i can think of.--[[User:Grim914|Grim914]] 23:21, 5 March 2011 (MST)<br />
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== At your request, the Tideturner is done! ==<br />
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Just thought I'd let you know; you had commented on my [[Tideturner (3.5e Prestige Class)|Tideturner]] prestige class, saying you wished it was done. A little under a year later, your wish is granted! :)<br />
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== Hello dear Senrior (Teoryran World) ==<br />
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First, hello. May I ask for constructive critique about my setting, Teoryran World(3.5 Setting).<br />
I did like to know what you think of it.<br />
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*I tagged category:Teoryran World on most supplement pages instead of Teoryran World Setting.<br />
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== A favor or two to ask ==<br />
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Hi Vrail, Danzig here, I've been busy as all Hell for the past year, but I'm closing in on getting that Battlemage article I posted up. That said, I need a hand once again... First off, how does one put coding for a picture into an article? Second, how do I change the names of some of the spells I posted? I need them to read Alarius', rather than Danzig's, and even some of the non-crystal ones are erroneously labeled with Danzig's name in the title as well... Also, if you have time, would you look at my battlemage NPC Jurgen Metzger and tell me if it's up to snuff? I'd appreciate it muchly, dude... [[User:Danzig Nyttafjell|Danzig]] 13:21, 20 June 2011 (MDT)<br />
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:Vrail has been out of touch for a while, so I figured I'd step in and answer for you. Adding a picture is pretty easy. Just use the "add image" option from the edit toolbar, or type <nowiki>[[File:Example.jpg]]</nowiki>, and type in the name of the image you want. What I do is press "preview page" and you will see the image you linked to is a red link. Click on the link, and it should be open up a page designed to upload images (you may have to log in, again), then save the original page. If you have any more trouble with images, leave a note on my talk page. As for changing the names of the spells, you will notice a small tab on the top of each page that says "move", which will open a new page which will allow you to rename any pages. It will automatically add a redirect things to the new page. Again, if you need help, my talk page is always open. --[[User:Badger|Badger]] 21:27, 22 June 2011 (MDT)<br />
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::Badget hit it right. D&D wiki uses a subwiki for our media repository, found [http://media.dandwiki.com/wiki/Main_Page here]. I just redid my registration on it and share the same username/password. To be 100 percent honest, I've never understood how it works on the backend side, but its how we do it. So you create the link first, then use the redlink to actually add the photo (though the subwiki may force you to log in first). &nbsp;<small><span style="border: 1px solid black; -moz-border-radius:10px">[[User:Hooper|'''<span style="background-color:White; color:Black; -moz-border-radius-topleft:10px; -moz-border-radius-bottomleft:10px"> Hooper </span>''']][[User talk:Hooper|<span style="background-color:Black; color:white; -moz-border-radius-bottomleft:10px; -moz-border-radius-topleft:10px">&nbsp;&nbsp;talk&nbsp;&nbsp;</span>]][[Special:Contributions/Hooper|<span style="background-color:black; color:white">&nbsp;&nbsp;contribs&nbsp;&nbsp;</span>]][[Special:Emailuser/Hooper|<span style="background-color:black; color:white; -moz-border-radius-bottomright:10px; -moz-border-radius-topright:10px">&nbsp;&nbsp;email&nbsp;&nbsp;</span>]]</span></small> 21:31, 22 June 2011 (MDT)<br />
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== Deep Immersion Sourcebook ==<br />
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So, I'm going through and deleting pages and I come across your sourcebook. It's got next to nothing associated with it, and the delete template has been on for months. I'm going to delete it. Since you're an admin, if you decide to bring it back you can easily un-delete it. --[[User:Badger|Badger]] 16:06, 23 August 2011 (MDT)<br />
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== Racial Hybrid System ==<br />
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Ok, I don't know if you know a lot about D&D 4e, but if you do, could you check out my [[User:Axl/My Sandbox/Racial Hybrid System|Racial Hybrid System]] and make sure that it's balanced? Thanks.<br />
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--[[User:Axl|Axl]] 17:31, 10 November 2011 (MST)<br />
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:I told [[User:Green Dragon|Green Dragon]] about this and my 4e Deity Template, but nothing has happened so far.<br />
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--[[User:Axl|Axl]] 17:33, 10 November 2011 (MST)<br />
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::Oh, I guess you like 3.5e more than 4e (judging from your Pages and Goals link).<br />
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--[[User:Axl|Axl]] 17:36, 10 November 2011 (MST)<br />
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:By the way, you should check the talk page for the deity template (I responded a while ago). --[[User:Green Dragon|Green Dragon]] 23:14, 10 November 2011 (MST)<br />
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==Please remove all my material from this wiki==<br />
I asked Green Dragon but he refuses. I would like all pages created by me to be deleted from this wiki. The reasons are personal and nobody's business but my own. Thank you for your cooperation. --<span style="font-size:90%;">[[User:ScryersEve|<span title="User page of Scryer's Eve"><span style="color:#006565;">Scryer's</span> <span style="color:#db6700;">Eve</span></span>]] <sup>([[User_talk:ScryersEve|<span style="color:#0053BF!important;" title="Talk page of Scryer's Eve">talk</span>]] | <span title="Contributions of Scryer's Eve">[[Special:Contributions/ScryersEve|<span style="small-caps;color:#0053BF!important;" title="Contributions of Scryer's Eve">contribs</span>]])</span></sup> 16:01, 26 March 2012 (MDT)</div>ScryersEvehttps://www.dandwiki.com/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Sledged&diff=556777User talk:Sledged2012-03-26T22:00:55Z<p>ScryersEve: </p>
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== DLPC ==<br />
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What did you find out in your DPLC tests, Sledged? I am rather curious... --[[User:Green Dragon|Green Dragon]] 23:13, 11 February 2007 (MST)<br />
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:Just what we already know. The source code for it will have to be tweeked a bit. &mdash;[[User:Sledged|Sledged]] ([[User talk:Sledged|talk]]) 09:49, 12 February 2007 (MST)<br />
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::You did get the link to it, right? --[[User:Green Dragon|Green Dragon]] 10:25, 12 February 2007 (MST)<br />
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:::Yup, I looked at it a bit over the weekend. &mdash;[[User:Sledged|Sledged]] ([[User talk:Sledged|talk]]) 10:34, 12 February 2007 (MST)<br />
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::::What do you think about it (limitations/weaknesses/strengths)? --[[User:Green Dragon|Green Dragon]] 10:47, 12 February 2007 (MST)<br />
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:::::Limitations:<br />
:::::* Wiki-code inside the tags go into the DB unparsed, the description template doesn't get converted into a wiki-table row. They only get parsed after it's pulled out of the DB. (Blue Dragon already stated this as an explanation of why putting the tags inside a template didn't work.)<br />
:::::* If it were made so that the content was parsed before going into the DB, then wiki-code intended to be used in the context of the list page wouldn't work.<br />
:::::* the 'class="even"' bit doesn't work even though it looks like it should.<br />
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:::::The standard DPL tag grabs all the pages the fit the criteria and displays them nice and neatly. Blue Dragon's custom extension uses two separate tags: &lt;dplc> and &lt;DPL2CU>. This first tag takes its contents an throws them in a table, the second tag (DPL2CU) goes through a process similar to the standard DPL, but instead of displaying the pages as links, it uses the page name to grab the stored information from the DPLC tag.<br />
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:::::I'm thinking instead of having the DPL2CU tag grab the info from the table, to snag it directly from the page instead. It would grab the page, parse it, then look for the an exposed dplc tag (by "exposed" I mean a dplc tag that wasn't parsed out due to IF statements, comment tags, or other means), and display its contents where the standard DPL tag would just display the page name as a link.<br />
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:::::One limitation of this approach is that there's a bit of overhead involved. Where Blue Dragon's implementation was efficient in retrieving and parsing only the tagged info, this implementation would be grabbing the whole page and parsing everything in it (<nowiki>{{#if}}</nowiki> and other similar blocks, templates, custom tags, etc...). This would make the page display slower, but I don't know how much slower. It's possible that Blue Dragon already tried this approach and found it too impractical. &mdash;[[User:Sledged|Sledged]] ([[User talk:Sledged|talk]]) 16:28, 12 February 2007 (MST)<br />
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::::::He did not try it. However, how much slower do you think it would go? Also, thanks for the above explanation - it has helped me figue this out more. --[[User:Green Dragon|Green Dragon]] 00:06, 13 February 2007 (MST)<br />
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:::::::I honestly wouldn't be able to how much. It could be so minor that no one would notice, or it could be so great that it would take over a minute to display. &mdash;[[User:Sledged|Sledged]] ([[User talk:Sledged|talk]]) 11:34, 13 February 2007 (MST)<br />
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::::::::I MoI'ed Blue Dragon; we will see what he has to say. --[[User:Green Dragon|Green Dragon]] 22:37, 13 February 2007 (MST)<br />
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:::::::::Contrary to what Green Dragon said, I have already tried this (it was my first idea). It does not very well at all, because through MW it would be set up as a hook which would parse every page. There are several other methods that I could try. The one which I am using is just a quick and dirty way of doing it. You may give it a shot yourself, or wait until I have time to work on it some more. --[[User:Blue Dragon|Blue Dragon]] 20:16, 15 February 2007 (MST)<br />
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::::::::::Okay, I've been giving this a little more thought. One thing that's been bothering me is that the page name has to be specified in the &lt;dplc&gt; tag. I kept thinking that there has to be some mechanic that allows the extension to retrieve the name of the page being parsed without the user specifying it. I looked on Wikimedia's meta site and found this [http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Extending_wiki_markup#Creating_an_XML-style_extension article], which says the <code>$parser</code> parameter has the member <code>mTitle</code> which, as the name suggests, contains the title of the page being parsed.<br />
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::::::::::Also, I see why the 'class="even"' doesn't work. The extension is manually replacing the wiki code with HTML code. I'm looking to see if it'll work to have the parser object do that job instead. &mdash;[[User:Sledged|Sledged]] ([[User talk:Sledged|talk]]) 13:03, 22 February 2007 (MST)<br />
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:::::::::::Ok, since I don't have a test environment, this is all from theory, so wherever I say "will," what I really mean is "to the best of my knowledge should." The following is a diff of what should be changed:<br />
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&#32;#$wgHooks['ParserBeforeTidy'][] = 'renderDPLC';<br />
&#32;}<br />
&#32;<br />
&#32;<br />
-''function renderDPLC($input)''<br />
+'''function renderDPLC($input, $argv, &$parser)'''<br />
&#32;{<br />
&#32; // Split the input<br />
&#32; list ($title, $data) = explode('|',$input,2);<br />
&#32; $data = addslashes($data);<br />
- ''$title = addslashes($title);''<br />
+ '''$title = addslashes($parser->mTitle->getPrefixedText());'''<br />
&#32; // Load the database connection<br />
&#32; $dbr =& wfGetDB( DB_SLAVE );<br />
&#32; // See whether an entry already exists<br />
&#32; $sql = "SELECT id,data FROM wdd_dpl2custom WHERE title LIKE '$title'";<br />
&#32; $res = $dbr->query($sql);<br />
&#32; $numRows = $dbr->numRows( $res );<br />
&#32; if ($numRows != "")<br />
&#32; {<br />
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:::::::::::This will eliminate the need to specify the page name. However, for backwards compatibility, the first pipe after no-longer-needed page name must still be present, but the text before the pipe may be anything or nothing. Example, any of the following will work the same:<br />
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:::::::::::*<nowiki><dplc></nowiki>'''Animal Leader (DnD Class)|'''<nowiki>{{Base Class Description|Animal Leader|NR|Moderate Spellcasting, Divine Spellcasting|Animal Leaders find a natural affinity with animals, adventuring with them. Where a fighter uses a sword, or a wizard uses spells, an Animal Leader uses numbers.}}</dplc></nowiki><br />
:::::::::::*<nowiki><dplc></nowiki>'''PLASMA!!!|'''<nowiki>{{Base Class Description|Animal Leader|NR|Moderate Spellcasting, Divine Spellcasting|Animal Leaders find a natural affinity with animals, adventuring with them. Where a fighter uses a sword, or a wizard uses spells, an Animal Leader uses numbers.}}</dplc></nowiki><br />
:::::::::::*<nowiki><dplc></nowiki>'''|'''<nowiki>{{Base Class Description|Animal Leader|NR|Moderate Spellcasting, Divine Spellcasting|Animal Leaders find a natural affinity with animals, adventuring with them. Where a fighter uses a sword, or a wizard uses spells, an Animal Leader uses numbers.}}</dplc></nowiki><br />
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:::::::::::The next is a bit more difficult to determine, but from what I can tell, <s>removing the following lines</s> making the following changes should allow the parser object to create the table from the wiki markup <s>core php code of the wiki to parse the wiki-code</s>:<br />
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&#32;// ###### PROCESS SQL QUERY ######<br />
&#32; //DEBUG: output SQL query <br />
&#32; $output .= $logger->msg(DPL2_QUERY, $sSqlSelectFrom . $sSqlWhere);<br />
&#32; // echo 'QUERY: [' . $sSqlSelectFrom . $sSqlWhere . "]&lt;br /&gt;";<br />
&#32;<br />
&#32; $res = $dbr->query($sSqlSelectFrom . $sSqlWhere);<br />
&minus; ''$allTitles = "";''<br />
+ '''$allTitles = "{|\n";'''<br />
&#32; $localparser = new Parser();<br />
&minus; ''$i = 0; ''<br />
&#32; while ( $row = $dbr->fetchObject( $res ) )<br />
&#32; {<br />
&#32; $title = Title::makeTitle($row->page_namespace, $row->page_title);<br />
&#32; $sTitleText = $title->getText();<br />
&#32; $sTitleText = addslashes($sTitleText);<br />
&#32; // Look up the data for this return<br />
&#32; $sql = "SELECT data FROM wdd_dpl2custom WHERE title LIKE '$sTitleText'";<br />
&#32; $res2 = $dbr->query($sql);<br />
&#32; // See whether the result exists<br />
&#32; $numRows = $dbr->numRows( $res2 );<br />
&minus; ''$data = "";''<br />
&#32; if ($numRows != "") {<br />
&#32; $row2 = $dbr->fetchObject( $res2 );<br />
&minus; ''$data = $row2->data;''<br />
+ '''$allTitles .= $row2->data . "\n";'''<br />
&#32; }<br />
&minus; ''// Parse the data''<br />
&minus; ''$output = $parser->parse( $data, $parser->mTitle, $parser->mOptions, false, false );''<br />
&minus; ''$output = $output->getText();''<br />
&minus; ''// Replace || with </td><td> and |- with </tr><tr>''<br />
&minus; ''if ($i == 0)''<br />
&minus; ''{''<br />
&minus; ''$output = str_replace('|-',"<tr><td>",$output);''<br />
&minus; ''$i++;''<br />
&minus; ''}''<br />
&minus; ''$output = str_replace('|-',"</tr><tr><td>",$output);''<br />
&minus; ''$output = str_replace('||',"</td><td>",$output);''<br />
&minus; ''$output = str_replace('|',"",$output);''<br />
&minus; ''$allTitles .= $output;''<br />
&#32; $dbr->freeResult( $res2 );<br />
&#32; }<br />
&minus; ''return $allTitles;''<br />
&#32; $dbr->freeResult( $res );<br />
+ '''$allTitles .= "|}";'''<br />
+ '''$allTitles = $parser->parse( $allTitles, $parser->mTitle, $parser->mOptions, false, false )->getText();'''<br />
+ '''$allTitles = str_replace('&lt;table>',"",$allTitles);'''<br />
+ '''$allTitles = str_replace('&lt;/table>',"",$allTitles);'''<br />
+ '''return $allTitles;'''<br />
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:::::::::::<s>The deleted code should be replaced with:</s><br />
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:::::::::::As before, there's a chance that these approaches have already been tried. &mdash;[[User:Sledged|Sledged]] ([[User talk:Sledged|talk]]) 10:56, 27 February 2007 (MST)<br />
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::::::::::::Hello Sledged, Looking through your code (I have not implemented it) I see one problem with the titles of the pages issue. $parser->mTitle will give you the title of the current page where the dplc list is on. Is this what you want? --[[User:Blue Dragon|Blue Dragon]] 21:52, 27 February 2007 (MST)<br />
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:::::::::::::Not sure I follow. When you say "the current page where the dplc list is on" are you talking about the pages with the &lt;DPL2CU&gt; tags? &mdash;[[User:Sledged|Sledged]] ([[User talk:Sledged|talk]]) 10:04, 28 February 2007 (MST)<br />
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::::::::::::::No, he is talking about pages like [[DnD Prestige Classes]] (I think). --[[User:Green Dragon|Green Dragon]] 10:16, 28 February 2007 (MST)<br />
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:::::::::::::::That page is one of pages with &lt;DPL2CU&gt; tags, along with its counterparts for [[DnD Base Classes|base]], [[DnD Racial Paragon Classes|racial paragon]], and [[User NPC Classes with Descriptions|NPC]] classes. &mdash;[[User:Sledged|Sledged]] ([[User talk:Sledged|talk]]) 10:24, 28 February 2007 (MST)<br />
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::::::::::::::::Wow, sorry. I read your post wrong (I thought you said dplc). I need to read things more carefully, sorry. --[[User:Green Dragon|Green Dragon]] 10:29, 28 February 2007 (MST)<br />
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:::::::::::::::::Blue, if you are referring to the &lt;DPL2CU&gt; pages, I don't see any reason why they'd trigger the the <code>renderDPLC</code> function. As best as I can tell, only the &lt;dplc&gt; tag tiggers that function, and none of the list pages have that tag. Nor does the function triggered by the &lt;DPL2CU&gt; tag call <code>renderDPLC</code>.<br />
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:::::::::::::::::You got a test environment in which you could try it out? &mdash;[[User:Sledged|Sledged]] ([[User talk:Sledged|talk]]) 19:05, 1 March 2007 (MST)<br />
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::::::::::::::::::Hello Sledged. I implemented the code changes for renderDPLC, which make a lot of sense -- I became confused about which block of code that was, seeing that I had not seen the code for awhile. I am sorry for the confusion. The second changes of code make sense as well, and have been implemented. I am sorry for the confusion, but I was finally able to put some time into looking them over. There are a few changes that I made to your changes, which can be viewed at the same file that you used to view the original code. Thanks for the patches! --[[User:Blue Dragon|Blue Dragon]] 14:47, 4 March 2007 (MST)<br />
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:::::::::::::::::::Ok, the code didn't work on the first go. mTitle can not be converted directly to a string. The pages with the dplc tags are giving errors as a result. So there's an additional change above. &mdash;[[User:Sledged|Sledged]] ([[User talk:Sledged|talk]]) 15:24, 4 March 2007 (MST)<br />
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::::::::::::::::::::Fixed. --[[User:Blue Dragon|Blue Dragon]] 15:49, 4 March 2007 (MST)<br />
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::::::::::::Reanalysis of the changes to <code>DynamicPageList2CU</code> (see above). &mdash;[[User:Sledged|Sledged]] ([[User talk:Sledged|talk]]) 13:11, 2 March 2007 (MST)<br />
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==Thanks==<br />
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Thanks a ton. I'm still not used to this yet. sorry. [[User:Nighteye|Nighteye]] 13:51, 4 March 2007 (MST)<br />
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: No problem. Let us know if you need any other help. &mdash;[[User:Sledged|Sledged]] ([[User talk:Sledged|talk]]) 13:53, 4 March 2007 (MST)<br />
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== Skinhead ==<br />
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Sledged, since you did such a good job coming up with a skin for D&D Wiki, would you consider doing the same for [http://wikirps.dandwiki.com/ WikiRPS]? I'd actually be happy with the exact same one. --[[User:Cuthalion|Cúthalion]] 19:11, 4 March 2007 (MST)<br />
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: Here you go: [[User:Sledged/sledged.css|Sledged.css]] and [[MediaWiki:Common.css|Common.css]]. Sledged.css references a few images for backgrounds and such, so don't forget those. &mdash;[[User:Sledged|Sledged]] ([[User talk:Sledged|talk]]) 20:49, 4 March 2007 (MST)<br />
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:: Okay, thanks. I'll install those as soon as Blue Dragon sets me up. --[[User:Cuthalion|Cúthalion]] 20:55, 4 March 2007 (MST)<br />
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== HTML-to-Wiki request ==<br />
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Hi I'm a wiki noob so I don't even know if this is the right place to ask but, Green Dragon referred me to you for help with converting HTML from a spreadsheet to wiki format for a table. Is this even possible? The page is [[D20 twilight (DnD & D20M Variant Rule)#PHB Feat list]] --[[User:Sigendymion|Sig]] 00:42, 17 March 2007 (MDT)<br />
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:Looks like it'll be able to convert. Might take a while, though. I've been less active on the wiki the past few days. &mdash;[[User:Sledged|Sledged]] ([[User talk:Sledged|talk]]) 08:40, 17 March 2007 (MDT)<br />
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::Great, and thanks! Take your time, it's not too important.--[[User:Sigendymion|Sig]] 19:58, 20 March 2007 (MDT)<br />
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:::Shite, Sledged! Thanks, very nice. Hope you didn't do that the hard way, but if it was some technique could you possibly share how you did that?--[[User:Sigendymion|Sig]] 21:43, 11 April 2007 (MDT)<br />
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::::I just did it by hand. It wasn't difficult, just a little tedious. &mdash;[[User:Sledged|Sledged]] ([[User talk:Sledged|talk]]) 22:17, 12 April 2007 (MDT)<br />
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== (talk) ==<br />
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So, when you sign a post, it includes a (talk) option. How do you do that? --[[User:Cuthalion|Cúthalion]] 21:15, 21 April 2007 (MDT)<br />
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: Go to [[Special:Preferences|my preferences]] and copy and paste the following (or any variation thereof) into the "Nickname" text field:<br />
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:: ''<nowiki>&mdash;[[User:Cuthalion|Cúthalion]] ([[User talk:Cuthalion|talk]])</nowiki>''<br />
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: Be sure to check the "Raw Signatures" check box. —[[User:Sledged|Sledged]] ([[User talk:Sledged|talk]]) 22:09, 21 April 2007 (MDT)<br />
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:: That's just too cool. Thanks. &ndash;[[User:Cuthalion|Cúthalion]] ([[User talk:Cuthalion|talk]]) 08:26, 22 April 2007 (MDT)<br />
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:::Alternatively, you can make a page such as [[User:Armond/Signature]] and put in that field <nowiki>{{subst:User:Armond/Signature}}</nowiki>. Be sure to subst it - otherwise, it can become an inclusion on a lot of pages, and changing signature page will cause all the other pages to have to change. When the server's trying to change a thousand pages at once, things get laggy. [[User:Armond|Armond]] 12:01, 3 May 2007 (MDT)<br />
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== Thanks. ==<br />
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Thanks mucho for restoring that page. -[[User:Othtim|Othtim]] 11:13, 3 May 2007 (MDT)<br />
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:You're welcome. Just let us know if you need any more help. —[[User:Sledged|Sledged]] ([[User talk:Sledged|talk]]) 11:53, 3 May 2007 (MDT)<br />
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== Barnstar ==<br />
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{{Barnstar|I give you this Barnstar for improving on the original [[Template:Stat Block|Stat Block]] and creating [[Template:Stat Block 2|Stat Block v2]]. Stat Block v2 is a large improvement, loading times are decreased and finally spots for most everything one could include in an NPC are present. Overall, I give you this Barnstar for making a fast Stat Block which is all inclusive for the NPCs, thanks. --[[User:Green Dragon|Green Dragon]] 23:46, 16 May 2007 (MDT)}}<br />
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== Magic Items 2 ==<br />
<br />
In my opinion, the primary magic item template should be named <nowiki>{{</nowiki>Magic Item<nowiki>}}</nowiki> -- on the theory that the most favored template should be the most obvious. I'd like to see the MIC standard be the default. Perhaps we should rename <nowiki>{{Magic Item}}</nowiki> to <nowiki>{{Magic Item Block}}</nowiki>, then move your template into <nowiki>{{Magic Item}}</nowiki>? {{Unsigned|2007-05-28 04:39:11|Dmilewski}}<br />
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:That works for me. —[[User:Sledged|Sledged]] ([[User talk:Sledged|talk]]) 08:31, 28 May 2007 (MDT)<br />
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::I moved the Magic Item Block over to its new location. I moved Magic Item 2 to Magic Item. --[[User:Dmilewski|Dmilewski]] 19:15, 28 May 2007 (MDT)<br />
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== how? ==<br />
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i am not sure about the rules for improving\creating articals.i would also like to help in some way<br />
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== Thanks ==<br />
<br />
Thanks for welcoming new users. For helping, here is a barnstar ''':)'''. {{Barnstar|I give this Barnstar to Sledged for helping out during my absence in many ways. Sledged has been welcoming new users, and helping them in the process, during my absence. Thanks for helping so much. --[[User:Green Dragon|Green Dragon]] 19:36, 24 June 2007 (MDT)}}<br />
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== Totally Re:ing Helping DanD Wiki ==<br />
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Actually, I've found that I quite enjoy reviewing the homebrew classes that appear on the wiki, and am wondering whether there is a formalized group that accomplishes this. Wading through all of the classes on the wiki not knowing whether they've been reviewed or not seems painful.<br />
<br />
[[User:Ortin|Ortin]] 22:00, 28 June 2007 (MDT)<br />
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: Thanks for rating them. There isn't a formalized group for rating the classes (yet). Anyone can give a rating to any user-supplied class. The best way to see what classes have already been rated is to follow the "... with Description" links from the [[DnD Classes]] page. The second columns in the tables gives the rating for each class. An entry with "NR" (or something else other than a numerical value) hasn't been rated yet. Thanks again. —[[User:Sledged|Sledged]] ([[User talk:Sledged|talk]]) 11:08, 29 June 2007 (MDT)<br />
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== yo! ==<br />
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hey, this is Carey Ruff, and i really love dnd wiki! (so does my friend, but hes shy.)<br />
anyhoo, the one thing i don't like is the npc generator thingumy. {{unsigned|Carey Ruff|2007-07-19 17:32:26}}<br />
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:Aside from it's complexity, what specifically do you not like about it? —[[User:Sledged|Sledged]] ([[User talk:Sledged|talk]]) 13:22, 26 July 2007 (MDT)<br />
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== Barnstar: Template Fu ==<br />
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It's time for another barnstar! {{Barnstar|I give this barnstar to Sledge for his Wiki-Fu Grandmastery in implementing templates.--[[User:Dmilewski|Dmilewski]] 17:58, 16 August 2007 (MDT)}}<br />
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== Anti-Vandal Barnstar ==<br />
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{{Anti-Vandal Barnstar|I give you this Anti-Vandal Barnstar for reverting spam edits on [[3.5e Other]] about 13 minutes after the spammer, IP [[Special:Contributions/62.215.3.45|62.215.3.45]] attacked. Thanks for the good and fast response. --[[User:Green Dragon|Green Dragon]] 11:53, 3 September 2007 (MDT)}}<br />
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== Interesting Monster...==<br />
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Dear sir, <br />
<br />
I am trying to add to your Jabberwock creature (it's fun to see something from good literature). I hope you don't mind the changes I made. <br />
I'm trying to make a tie-in with the Wiki in general by making it an extraplanar creature from the [[Land of Nonsense (3.5e Environment)|Land of Nonsense]].<br />
Since you brought the Jabberwock on the Wiki, do you object to this in any way? I do not wish to screw up your Jabberwock (or Lewis Carrol, for that matter) {{Unsigned|Sir Milo Teabag|21:22, 12 October 2007 (MDT)}}<br />
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: I don't mind the additions. The more details, the better. Besides, if I didn't want anyone modifying it, I wouldn't have put it on a wiki. —[[User:Sledged|Sledged]] ([[User talk:Sledged|talk]]) 16:54, 17 October 2007 (MDT)<br />
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== Thanks for the DLP Updates ==<br />
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Thanks for the big slew of DPL updates. LOOKING GOOD! --[[User:Dmilewski|Dmilewski]] 19:00, 28 November 2007 (MST)<br />
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:My pleasure. I've been itching to do something about all the "S" headers for the SRD lists. —[[User:Sledged|Sledged]] ([[User talk:Sledged|talk]]) 11:39, 29 November 2007 (MST)<br />
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== Your Block ==<br />
<br />
Wow, sorry about blocking you, and I would like to apologize and explain myself. As I was looking at RC (with "Hide Patrolled" selected where blocks, user creations, etc do not show) I came across the edits today where you were reverting some spam. And, as normal, I clicked "Block", once I was on the page where you reverted the edits to make sure you had blocked the IP after it had made it's attack. Unfortunately I must have clicked the "Block" above your username rather than the IP address's... So, I blocked you instead... I am very sorry, and I hope it was not too much of an inconvenience. --[[User:Green Dragon|Green Dragon]] 20:55, 5 December 2007 (MST)<br />
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:Thanks for the explanation. I was just afraid I had inadvertently done something reproachable. Glad to know all is well. At first, I was worried that I had blocked myself instead of the intended IP address. (I can see myself doing that.) —[[User:Sledged|Sledged]] ([[User talk:Sledged|talk]]) 10:40, 6 December 2007 (MST)<br />
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::Luckily, no, you did not do anything bad ''':)'''. Also, sorry again. --[[User:Green Dragon|Green Dragon]] 19:40, 6 December 2007 (MST)<br />
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== A question too specified for the Discussion...==<br />
<br />
What the heck is a schema? The only description I've heard of it is that it's some sort of reuseable scroll. Is this definition accurate? --[[User:Sir Milo Teabag|Sir Milo Teabag]] 15:47, 28 December 2007 (MST)<br />
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:Nothing comes to mind, but "schema" is a broad term. I'd have to see the context in which it's used to figure out what it means. —[[User:Sledged|Sledged]] ([[User talk:Sledged|talk]]) 22:43, 28 December 2007 (MST)<br />
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::There's a feat in some Eberron book called "Craft Minor Schema". Although I don't have the book, I have heard of the feat. --[[User:Sir Milo Teabag|Sir Milo Teabag]] 08:34, 4 January 2008 (MST)<br />
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:::"Etch Schema" in ''[[Magic of Eberron]]''. I'll look it up when I get a chance. —[[User:Sledged|Sledged]] ([[User talk:Sledged|talk]]) 13:11, 4 January 2008 (MST)<br />
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::::"Re-usable scroll" is fairly accurate. It's untyped magic (neither arcane nor divine) that can be used by anyone with the spell in question on their spell list. —[[User:Sledged|Sledged]] ([[User talk:Sledged|talk]]) 14:41, 6 January 2008 (MST)<br />
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== Namespace for Publications ==<br />
<br />
You seem to remember where some of the more obscure discussions have taken place (for example the discussions about D&D Wiki in Wikiworld) so I have a question. Do you remember where the discussion is about publications and how we want to treat them? It talked about namespaces of publications and some other things... Thanks for your time. --[[User:Green Dragon|Green Dragon]] 14:11, 18 January 2008 (MST)<br />
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:I believe [[Talk:Dungeons and Dragons#Open Game License Content?|this]] is the discussion for which you're looking. —[[User:Sledged|Sledged]] ([[User talk:Sledged|talk]]) 14:26, 18 January 2008 (MST)<br />
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::No... I don't think so... I don't think I worded the question that well above, so hopefully this will help. The discussion dealt with publications and how we were going to treat them on D&D Wiki. Having a list of all publications and linking them from the [[Main Page]] was mentioned, I believe. Also the namespace of publications was discussed. WotC, Publication, and more namespaces were discussed until I think one was vaguely decided on, which was thought up by you, if I remember correctly. --[[User:Green Dragon|Green Dragon]] 15:16, 18 January 2008 (MST)<br />
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::: Then perhaps it was [[Talk:Elven High Mage (PI Prestige Class)|this discussion]]? —[[User:Sledged|Sledged]] ([[User talk:Sledged|talk]]) 15:18, 18 January 2008 (MST)<br />
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::::Exactly! Thank you so much!! --[[User:Green Dragon|Green Dragon]] 15:27, 18 January 2008 (MST)<br />
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== Headers ==<br />
<br />
All the L3 headers are no longer bold; they just have a line under them... --[[User:Green Dragon|Green Dragon]] 14:36, 30 January 2008 (MST)<br />
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:I changed the L3s and L4s so that they can be distinguished from each other at a casual glance. At the L3's new size, the bold text was a bit too much. I figured this is probably why the mediawiki developers never made the L1s and L2s bold, so I put a border under it. Unfortunately, if the border goes all the way across the page, it makes it difficult to distinguish from the L2s. I had meant to do this change back in November, but it wasn't until I tried to demo the [[Template:DnD Base Class Infobox|DnD Base Class Infobox]] that I realized the change didn't take. —[[User:Sledged|Sledged]] ([[User talk:Sledged|talk]]) 14:45, 30 January 2008 (MST)<br />
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::It's growing on me ''':)'''. --[[User:Green Dragon|Green Dragon]] 09:17, 4 February 2008 (MST)<br />
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== Barnstars ==<br />
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{{Barnstar|I give you this Barnstar for designing and helping to implement the current [[Rating System]]. Thanks. --[[User:Green Dragon|Green Dragon]] 23:36, 27 February 2008 (MST)}}<br /><br />
{{Barnstar|I give you this Barnstar for making all the classes on D&D Wiki use the new dpl2. Thanks for your help. --[[User:Green Dragon|Green Dragon]] 23:36, 27 February 2008 (MST)}}<br /><br />
{{Barnstar|I give you this Barnstar for your work transcribing the [[UA:Races|Unearthed Arcana Races]] section! -- [[User:OptimizationFanatic|OptimizationFanatic]] 19:36, 2 May 2008 (MDT)}}<br />
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== Grammar Changes ==<br />
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You may be interested to read some comments I made on the [[Talk:Spider Rider (DnD Prestige Class)|Spider Rider PrC talk page]]. They are related to your "Standards and Formatting guide, you may wish to include similar suggestions in the guide. Thanks for your time.--[[User:Othtim|Othtim]] 18:23, 9 March 2008 (MDT)<br />
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: Good deal. I'll add them. If there's anything else you feel should be include, feel free to add them to the page. —[[User:Sledged|Sledged]] ([[User talk:Sledged|talk]]) 20:34, 9 March 2008 (MDT)<br />
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== The Archon ==<br />
Thanks for editing.--[[User:Hatman|Hatman]] 09:35, 20 March 2008 (MDT)<br />
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==I like lots of your ideas==<br />
Especialy the monkey and the admin NPC's.--[[User:Hatman|Hatman]] 14:37, 8 May 2008 (MDT)<br />
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: Thanks. If I could only get around to fleshing them out. —[[User:Sledged|Sledged]] ([[User talk:Sledged|talk]]) 15:23, 8 May 2008 (MDT)<br />
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::Maybe you should ask them what kind of characters they like to play. That would be a good place to start, maybe. I tried this with my friends before, but I couldnt go through with it because they were telling me about all kinds of races, classes, variant rules, and weird items. It got so complicated I just had to end it with mine, that I later got rid of. Sledged, you have inspiered me to try again. The monkey should be easy though.--[[User:Hatman|Hatman]] 14:30, 9 May 2008 (MDT)<br />
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:::you should make Green Dragon a half-gold dragon :) --[[User:Jack Bread|Jack Bread]] 15:33, 21 July 2008 (MDT)<br />
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== Searching ==<br />
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i keep forgeting to add DnD wiki to my favorites list so everytime i search "dand wiki" on yahoo, the only result for this wiki on it is your talk page ''':D''' --[[User:Jack Bread|Jack Bread]] 15:32, 21 July 2008 (MDT)<br />
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:I believe that if you try to search for the actual name of this site, D&D Wiki, it should pop right up. --[[User:Green Dragon|Green Dragon]] 15:47, 21 July 2008 (MDT)<br />
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==Barnstar==<br />
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{{Anti-Vandal Barnstar|This goes for a billion anti-vandal things I've seen Sledged do, more recently he revert several objectionable edits to the Chuck Norris deity page (not the first time either I think). --[[User:Aarnott|Aarnott]] 11:22, 22 July 2008 (MDT) }}<br />
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== Help on template:4e Power ==<br />
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Alrighty, I've been working on the 4e Power template thanks to the bit of help you gave me before, so I've decided to come to you this time for some help. I'm trying to get the #if and #ifeq 'thing-its' to work right. I have the background of the first section of the table to be colored according to the information in the paramater {{{aed}}}. I have a hell of a feeling I've got something wrong, mainly because putting either Daily, Encounter, or At-Will don't change it at all, but I can't really determine what. {{unsigned|Taritus}}<br />
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:If you need any template help, I can also help you. In my opinion, templates should use words for their parameters. {{{aed}}} is not very descriptive. Just write on my talk page if you need help. To use the parser functions such as #if you should read: [http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/ParserFunctions]. --[[User:Aarnott|Aarnott]] 20:21, 31 July 2008 (MDT)<br />
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::Thanks for the couple of fixes there. Working on changing the parameter names.--[[User:Taritus|Taritus]] 12:45, 1 August 2008 (MDT)<br />
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== Woot, Templates ==<br />
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So, I just finished the [[template:4e Magic Item]]. Mind looking over it and making sure there are no problems?--[[User:Taritus|Taritus]] 18:28, 21 August 2008 (MDT)<br />
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== Template woes... ==<br />
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Hey Sledged. I can't seem to get rid of the trailing newline in [[User:Aarnott/Table Link]]. I want to use it as a template for the links in my User Page tables (so that I can change the color on the fly and such). Any ideas on how I can stop this problem from happening? --[[User:Aarnott|Aarnott]] 18:18, 8 October 2008 (MDT)<br />
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: You're not going to get rid of the trailing newline. It's hard-coded in MW that any page with content ends with a newline character. Anyway, since you used the onlyinclude tag, it shouldn't matter that there's a newline character since it's not within the onlyinclude tags. —[[User:Sledged|Sledged]] ([[User talk:Sledged|talk]]) 18:24, 8 October 2008 (MDT)<br />
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== Another noob asking for tech support ==<br />
As you'll see at [[User:Hooper/ValgoraTemplate]] I'm trying to create a bottom categorized navbox (this particular one for all the pages of my homebrew campaign, but one that can be used for anyone [see: [[Template:Navbox]] ]), but I'm having extreme difficulty figuring out where I'm going wrong. Its mostly a copy-paste job from wiki if that helps at all.<br />
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And a sub-question, on a page I'm working on now I'm hoping to insert a standard row/column table. Is there already a template for such a table or a good page I can steal the code from and customize for the new page purposes? Thanks. &nbsp;<small><span style="border: 1px solid blue; -moz-border-radius:10px">[[User:Hooper|'''<span style="background-color:White; color:FireBrick; -moz-border-radius-topleft:10px; -moz-border-radius-bottomleft:10px"> Hooper </span>''']][[User talk:Hooper|<span style="background-color:red; color:blue; -moz-border-radius-bottomleft:10px; -moz-border-radius-topleft:10px">&nbsp;&nbsp;talk&nbsp;&nbsp;</span>]][[Special:Contributions/Hooper|<span style="background-color:red; color:blue">&nbsp;&nbsp;contribs&nbsp;&nbsp;</span>]][[Special:Emailuser/Hooper|<span style="background-color:red; color:blue; -moz-border-radius-bottomright:10px; -moz-border-radius-topright:10px">&nbsp;&nbsp;email&nbsp;&nbsp;</span>]]</span></small> 14:58, 14 November 2008 (MST)<br />
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== Paragon Path ==<br />
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I hope you don't mind but I just started on creating a paragon path for your elementalist class http://www.dandwiki.com/wiki/Chaos_Master but I have no idea how to use the wiki formatting so please if you feel so inclined to try and help me please do so and if you don't want me making something based off of your class just say so on me talk and Ill remove it.<br />
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Explodus<br />
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== Redirects ==<br />
I see you found where I cleaned up the broken/double redirects. Sorry for the workload. But it looks alot better now. Thanks. &nbsp;<small><span style="border: 1px solid blue; -moz-border-radius:10px">[[User:Hooper|'''<span style="background-color:White; color:FireBrick; -moz-border-radius-topleft:10px; -moz-border-radius-bottomleft:10px"> Hooper </span>''']][[User talk:Hooper|<span style="background-color:red; color:blue; -moz-border-radius-bottomleft:10px; -moz-border-radius-topleft:10px">&nbsp;&nbsp;talk&nbsp;&nbsp;</span>]][[Special:Contributions/Hooper|<span style="background-color:red; color:blue">&nbsp;&nbsp;contribs&nbsp;&nbsp;</span>]][[Special:Emailuser/Hooper|<span style="background-color:red; color:blue; -moz-border-radius-bottomright:10px; -moz-border-radius-topright:10px">&nbsp;&nbsp;email&nbsp;&nbsp;</span>]]</span></small> 15:12, 26 December 2008 (MST)<br />
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== See Also ==<br />
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See also http://semeb.com/dpldemo/index.php?title=Main_Page And, if you have some spare time, could you possibly log into the tavern? --[[User:Green Dragon|Green Dragon]] 15:16, 20 March 2009 (MDT)<br />
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== AdminBadge ==<br />
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I'd like to label you as an admin with the <s><nowiki>[[Template:AdminBadge]]</nowiki></s> on your user page. If you have a reason you don't think you should have the badge or you don't think the badge is a good idea, please discuss it on the badge's [[Template talk:AdminBadge|discussion]]. -[[User:Valentine the Rogue|Valentine the Rogue]] 16:07, 11 April 2009 (MDT)<br />
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== Anti-Vandal Barnstar ==<br />
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{{Anti-Vandal Barnstar|For reverting spam on many deleted pages and overall helping keep D&D Wiki clean from vandals' work throughout the last couple of days, I give you this Barnstar. Thanks for your help. --[[User:Green Dragon|Green Dragon]] 22:03, 18 April 2010 (UTC)}}<br />
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== Protecting a Page ==<br />
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I just notice you were on, I've been waiting for an admin to log in all day. I have been reverting the same spam edits, by the same IP all day since this morning. I've reverted spam on that same page 40 times already, please protect the page and block the IP! --[[User:Vrail|Vrail]] 20:55, 27 June 2010 (UTC)<br />
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== Ogrillons ==<br />
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Considering your standing in the community, I feel silly asking, but I'd be remiss not to. So, do you have any idea as to why an IP would accuse you of stealing someone else's work? Was this just someone who had some misunderstanding as to the copyright status of the name? I know there was some concern, as mentioned on the monster's talk page. --[[User:Badger|Badger]] 13:05, 20 October 2010 (MDT)<br />
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: I can think of a number of reasons.<br />
:* Though the statistical work is my own, it's based on the 1E and 2E AD&D versions. It's my take on a 3.5 version.<br />
:* The descriptive text might be a different issue. I'm know most of it is my own wording, but some of it might be verbatim from older the editions. If it is, the IP may have taken exception to that.<br />
:* Another possibility is that this version was copied to another wiki. I have found some of my work on other wikis exactly as they are here. Usually it's the templates, formatting, and such, not so much gaming material. But if the IP saw it somewhere else first, then saw it here, (s)he might assume it had been stolen from the other site.<br />
:* The name might be trademarked, and I should probably note from where the name.<br />
:* The ''[[Tome of Horrors]]'' has it's own 3(.5) version of the ogrillon (which is OGC), but it's statistically different. But without comparing the stats, an IP might think I copied it from there.<br />
: —[[User:Sledged|Sledged]] ([[User talk:Sledged|talk]]) 14:26, 20 October 2010 (MDT)<br />
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: i am sorry for deleting your stuff i was childish i should not have done it. you and i have made completely different versions of the race i had no right to do what i did. and again i am sorry<br />
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==Please remove all my material from this wiki==<br />
I asked Green Dragon but he refuses. I would like all pages created by me to be deleted from this wiki. The reasons are personal and nobody's business but my own. Thank you for your cooperation. --<span style="font-size:90%;">[[User:ScryersEve|<span title="User page of Scryer's Eve"><span style="color:#006565;">Scryer's</span> <span style="color:#db6700;">Eve</span></span>]] <sup>([[User_talk:ScryersEve|<span style="color:#0053BF!important;" title="Talk page of Scryer's Eve">talk</span>]] | <span title="Contributions of Scryer's Eve">[[Special:Contributions/ScryersEve|<span style="small-caps;color:#0053BF!important;" title="Contributions of Scryer's Eve">contribs</span>]])</span></sup> 16:00, 26 March 2012 (MDT)</div>ScryersEvehttps://www.dandwiki.com/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Sepsis&diff=556776User talk:Sepsis2012-03-26T22:00:34Z<p>ScryersEve: </p>
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== Satyr choices ==<br />
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I like what you did with the satyr, but I feel like there could be something more. The nature bonus isn't like anything else we've seen in 4th, and keeping Feint a satyr exclusive feat seems to be a little off given that it is 3rd's improved feint. Getting it as a bonus feat seems like a more fitting choice for the satyr, and then they get Harrying Attack as their encounter power. Remove the wild knowledge from the equation, and I think the Satyr will be as good as its going to get. I'll if I can come up wiht something else to add some flavor to the Satyr race.<br />
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So annoying when Wizards leaves these perfectly acceptable playable races out. {{Unsigned|Manawolf}}<br />
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::The Nature skill bonus represents the high skill in Nature Satyrs have, even though they do not "favor" any class that grants the Nature skill. Feint and Harrying Attack are powers the MM version of the Satyr have so I felt it only appropriate that they be made into Racial feats for them. For balance they can only choose one at creation. Giving them both Feint and HArrying Attack would unbalznce them against other races. So far I like them as is, and I don't know that any change is really needed, still any input is apprieciated. -- [[User:Sepsis|Sepsis]] 06:52, 9 December 2008 (MST)<br />
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== Cambion, specificly, my cambion ==<br />
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I don't mind you making a cambion race that fits 4e more or making a lineage feat for it, but why exactly is my version gone? And why did you then think that you should just remake the lineage feat I made for two races?<br />
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:Orginally Green Dragon decided to remove your version of the Cambion, and make mine the sole version. After about a month I assumed (wrongly I guess) that you had abandoned both the race and feat, so I updated the Feat to fit my race. Sorry for any confusion. -- [[User:Sepsis|Sepsis]] 10:03, 26 December 2008 (MST)<br />
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== Derro/Duergar Monsters ==<br />
I'll start writing up a few this weekend. The derro should be fun. [[User:Dracomortis|Dracomortis]] 22:31, 11 February 2009<br />
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:I did notice that most related creatures are put on one page, but I though it would be easier to categorize if they were on separate pages (otherwise the same page would be tagged with multiple levels/roles). Is it preferred that they be on the same page? If so, I can certainly move the vocalist and the future entries to one page. [[User:Dracomortis|Dracomortis]] 11:31, 15 February 2009<br />
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::The vocalist has been moved to the [[Derro (4e Creature)]] page, and the derro madguard has been added. -- [[User:Dracomortis|Dracomortis]] 13:46, 15 February 2009<br />
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:::I likewise don't have my 3.5 Monster Manual in front of me at the moment, but the online SRD does mention the greenblood oil, and I also seem to remember savants being arcane spellcasters (specifically, I think they were wizards). Thus, I'll begin work on the derro savant - level 11? elite controller (leader) - and the derro venomblade - level 9 skirmisher? - tomorrow. I'll also write up stats for greenblood oil as a poison, and I have one or two more ideas for different derro enemies floating around. After that, I'll start on the duergar. -- [[User:Dracomortis|Dracomortis]] 23:56, 18 February 2009<br />
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::::The derro savant, mindscar (the apprentices of the savants), and venomblade have been added, as well as stats for greenblood oil. I also added the [[Diirinka's Hideous Laughter (4e Feat)|Diirinka's Hideous Laughter]] feat for clerics of Diirinka. -- [[User:Dracomortis|Dracomortis]] 15:18, 19 February 2009<br />
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:Added [[Toil of Laduguer (4e Feat)|Toil of Laduguer]] for clerics of the duergar deity. I think I'll write up a derro lunatic priest - level 14 artillery (leader?) - to cover clerics of Diirinka, and then I think that will about do it for the derro. -- [[User:Dracomortis|Dracomortis]] 23:37, 19 February 2009<br />
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::General derro description has been added, and links have been provided to everything I thought was relevant (keywords, conditions, equipment, skills, alignment, and areas of effect). -- [[User:Dracomortis|Dracomortis]] 14:54, 23 February 2009 (MST)<br />
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:::Thank you a thousand times for the featured article nomination and for all your help in bringing the derro together! If there's anything else you happen to think of that might be added (even if it's just for kicks), let me know. -- [[User:Dracomortis|Dracomortis]] 18:01, 23 February 2009 (MST)<br />
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:I've started writing up the duergar as creatures [[Duergar (4e Creature)|here]]. -- [[User:Dracomortis|Dracomortis]] 21:23, 5 March 2009 (MST)<br />
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== Campaign Setting ==<br />
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Some of the pages related to your campaign setting have incorrectly formatted titles. For pages related to your main page, like [[Lerune Cities (4e Campaign Supplement)]], the tag should not be " (4e Campaign Supplement)", but rather " (Lerune Supplement)" to identify it as a supplement to your main page, not a supplement to campaign setting sin general. You can fix this yourself by using the move function located at the top of each page to change the title to have the appropriate tag, or I can do it, if you'd like. In the example with [[Lerune Cities (4e Campaign Supplement)]] above, the correct title would instead be "Lerune Cities (Lerune Supplement)" or simply "Cities (Lerune Supplement)". -[[User:Valentine the Rogue|Valentine the Rogue]] 13:24, 12 April 2009 (MDT)<br />
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== Lock Please ==<br />
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Could you please "Lock" my following creations. I've had some ubalanced editd made recently and I would like to protect them from potential vandalism. Thank you.<br />
*[[Cambion (4e Race)|Cambion]]<br />
*[[Grimlock (4e Race)|Grimlock]]<br />
*[[Lizardfolk (4e Race)|Lizardfolk]]<br />
*[[Half-Ogre (4e Race)|Half-Ogre]]<br />
*[[Satyr (4e Race)|Satyr]]<br />
*[[Skum (4e Race)|Skum]]<br />
*[[Troglodyte (4e Race)|Troglodyte]]<br />
*[[Half-Troll (4e Race)|Half-Troll]]<br />
-- [[User:Sepsis|Sepsis]] 20:23, 11 May 2009 (MDT)<br />
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:Do you want the IP lock (that prevents IP edits), or the full lock (that prevents everyone but SysOps/Admins from editing it)? --[[User:Ganteka|Ganteka]] 20:29, 11 May 2009 (MDT)<br />
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::Full Lock please. -- [[User:Sepsis|Sepsis]] 07:07, 12 May 2009 (MDT)<br />
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==Thank You Sir...May I Have Another?==<br />
I was wondering if you could put a Full Lock on these monsters of mine. They are finished, and while none have edited them without request, I would like to perserve them as is. Again I thank you.<br />
*[[Cannabinoid (4e Creature)|Cannabinoid]]<br />
*[[Chupacabra (4e Creature)|Chupacabra]]<br />
*[[Drowned (4e Creature)|Drowned]]<br />
*[[Living Dead (4e Creature)|Living Dead]]<br />
*[[Rimecorpse (4e Creature)|Rimecorpse]]<br />
*[[Sasquatch (4e Creature)|Sasquatch]]<br />
-- [[User:Sepsis|Sepsis]] 07:39, 12 May 2009 (MDT)<br />
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: Of course I guess I can take care of it. --[[User:Lord Dhazriel|Lord Dhazriel]] 23:59, 11 June 2009 (MDT)<br />
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:: Oh it seem someone already did... --[[User:Lord Dhazriel|Lord Dhazriel]] 00:02, 12 June 2009 (MDT)<br />
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== 4e Artifacts ==<br />
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I was just wondering if anyone was planning on putting together a series of Templates so we can post 4e Artifacts. I have one I would love to post, but it would look horrible trying to use the "magic item" templates. Artifacts just have such specific needs that a devoted Template would be great. Anyways I was just wondering. -- [[User:Sepsis|Sepsis]] 07:35, 17 May 2009 (MDT)<br />
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== Request for race conversion ==<br />
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This is from Eiji's talk page.<br />
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Hey Eiji, I was wondering if you were planning on making plushies 4e. there would need to be some serious reworking of it but i love the idea of them. I would really like just at least the race, and the Go boom as an encounter power. [[User:Master K|Master K]] 16:51, 8 April 2009 (MDT)<br />
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:As is, I am not a 4e player. However, if someone with the know how wishes to, I give you permission to translate them into 4e mechanics. Hee hee hee. -- [[User:Eiji|Eiji]] 19:54, 8 April 2009 (MDT)<br />
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::I am not too good at it and i will give it a try, is this an invatation to anyone or just me? [[User:Master K|Master K]] 19:58, 8 April 2009 (MDT)<br />
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:::Anyone. Know any 4e gurus? -- [[User:Eiji|Eiji]] 21:37, 8 April 2009 (MDT)<br />
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:::: [[User:Sepsis|Sepsis]] or [[User:Sam Kay|Sam Kay]], both made 4e featured article. Maybe they want to help. --[[User:Lord Dhazriel|Lord Dhazriel]] 22:18, 8 April 2009 (MDT)<br />
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So I was going to ask you if you could look at converting Plushies to 4e? They would have to be a lot more simple than they are for 3.5. Preferably with +2 to Dex and Int, and a "Go Boom" racial encounter power. Look at [[Eijilund_Plushies_(DnD_Race)|Plushies(Race)]] please and tell me if you would be kind enough to do this for me. I would like to ask both of you to try to make it, and then then whoever takes the offer can make it.[[User:Master K|Master K]] 21:23, 5 July 2009 (MDT)<br />
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I'd be willing to do the conversion (unless Sam wants to do it...just let me know). Once you know which of us will be working on it, drop me a MOI. I'll start (or not) as soon as I know. -- [[User:Sepsis|Sepsis]] 13:39, 6 July 2009 (MDT)<br />
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== Gloomstrike ==<br />
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Perhaps it should be if you have concealment from the target, rather than only during surprise round?<br />
:Sorry it took so long to respond (I don't visit here as much as I used to), but I will give it a look as soon as I have time. Thanks for the input. -- [[User:Sepsis|Sepsis]] 10:01, 30 July 2009 (MDT)<br />
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== Keeping You Informed ==<br />
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I stole this long but succinctly in-depth summary of the situation from a post by [[User:Jota|Jota]]. It should hopefully give you the lowdown on what's been happening if you don't already (if you do, forgive me for wasting so much space on your talk page):<br />
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'''April 16, 2009'''<br />
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Surgo, who maintains Tome content on the wiki (an oft source of conflict due to its innovative, and perhaps radical, ideas on 3.5e), becomes frustrated with the current rating system (due to the reasons outlined below) and how it degrades aspects of the Tome classes, and voices a complaint:<br />
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|Classes need to stop being rated down in formatting, flavor, whatever because they strip out the bottom parts of the preload ("X in the world" etc.). That crap was added in to books by Wizards halfway through the 3.5 life cycle to increase page count without increasing effort. That means if you look through the first half of the Complete series, they won't even have that crap! It really should be up to the author whether they include those bullshit redundant sections or not, and pages should not be rated down if they do not. It's possible to have good flavor ''without putting it in those retarded sections! ''<br />
|orig=Surgo<br />
|src=[[Talk:DnD Base Classes#Some Rating Nonsense Needs to Stop]]<br />
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Questions are raised as to what specific aspects of the rating preload mean, which Green Dragon clarifies, although lingering questions and concerns persist, as shown below.<br />
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'''June 24-July 8, 2009''':<br />
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{{quote<br />
|In the tavern, we were discussing the class rating system. It seems to be the general consensus that, as is, it simply doesn't work. A numerical system with categories doesn't do much in the way of giving a general appraisal of a class -- flavor, a 100% subjective measure, is considered equally with such absolutes as wording and formatting. In addition, a very large number of the ratings are given no explanation, miscategorized, or just make no sense. This could all be fixed if it was changed to a three-level non-numerical rating system (as proposed by Dragon Child): Needs Work, Usable, and Excellent. The crap ratings could be filtered out by requiring admin approval of all ratings -- an MoI to User:Admin could alert us and it wouldn't be very time-consuming to give a yea or nay. In the case of multiple ratings, we take the mathematical mode, erring towards Usable in case of a tie. This simplification has the added benefits of being smaller on the page and being usable on more than just classes -- finally, feats and equipment and other things could be rated.<br />
|orig=Daniel Draco<br />
|src=[[User_talk:Green_Dragon#Rating_System]]<br />
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This idea is kicked about and modified, with the following notable thoughts from Green Dragon, where he makes his perspective somewhat clear. I say somewhat, because while he doesn't endorse this proposal, he never explicitly says no either.<br />
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{{quote<br />
|Sorry I was away on vacation for a bit. Personally I am of the opinion to remove the entire rating system from the classes and just treat them like all other homebrew material. Use the Meta Pages#Improving, Reviewing, and Removing Articles system and call it good. Why do we need to add a numerical or word based rating system for the classes when instead we can use a combination of a reviewing, explaining, and page based system? --Green Dragon 14:13, 7 July 2009 (MDT)<br />
|orig=Green Dragon<br />
|src=[[User_talk:Green_Dragon#Rating_System]]<br />
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|I am of the opinion a numerical (or word) based rating system (as explained above) detriments articles more then it helps compared to a system where the unuseable articles are reviewed and helped in a article-based manner. --Green Dragon 15:06, 8 July 2009 (MDT)<br />
|orig=Green Dragon<br />
|src=[[User_talk:Green_Dragon#Rating_System]]<br />
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This is where I think the conflict comes in, as expressed best, I think, in this quote from Aarnott:<br />
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|So effectively, Green Dragon, you are suggesting articles should either be considered bad or not bad?<br />
|orig=Aarnott<br />
|src=[[User_talk:Green_Dragon#Rating_System]]<br />
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From my personal perspective, Green Dragon is not necessarily correct here because D&D Wiki is not a wiki in the same sense as Wikipedia is. Wikipedia is an online encyclopedia, a collection of facts. Facts, by their very nature, are not good or bad; they just are. On D&D Wiki however, we do not have "facts", we have original content contributed by our members (therefore making us very much NOT like Wikipedia -- see [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia_is_not_a_crsytal_ball#Wikipedia_is_not_a_publisher_of_original_thought Wikipedia is not a publisher of original thought]). <br />
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To surmise, this is where we have conflict: Green Dragon seems to want to emulate a normal wiki, such as Wikipedia, which has articles that are either up to snuff or not, whereas the others want to distinguish articles which are deemed superior, so that they stick out from the rest. <br />
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This conflict is not immediate, but it is important to note that this is where the seeds of it are.<br />
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'''July 20, 2009'''<br />
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This is where I think the user base went wrong. This post from Dragon Child opens with "Here's an Official Proposal", and yet I (and perhaps others) expected something much more formal (like a [[Requests for Adminship|Request for Adminship]]). I think this is another big source of conflict, because several users show up to endorse this proposal (and none oppose it) and Green Dragon comments on this same page section three times without either rejecting or supporting the proposal, which I can only assume implied tacit approval for those interested in the proposal:<br />
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|Here's an Official Proposal.<br />
A committe is formed known as the Ratings Committee, or RC for short. The RC is composed of 9 members, each of varied preferences and opinions, to form it. The RC members must each contribute to the RC once every month, or be replaced. The RC members gain the powers as follows <br/><br />
▪ An RC member is able to select an article he feels is particularly good and exemplifies what the wiki should be. He may Favor the article. <br/><br />
▪ An article with one Favor gains a Bronze Star. <br/><br />
▪ An article with at least 3 Favors is upgraded to a Silver Star. <br/><br />
▪ An article with at least 6 Favors gains a Gold Star. <br/><br />
▪ If eight RC members all Favor an article, it becomes a Featured Article (in addition to the Gold Star), and is given (unit of time - 1 week? 2 weeks?) on the front page. This may lead to a Featured Article queue. That's fine - it's better than a lack of one. All Featured Articles will get their fair share. <br/><br />
▪ If an article as two or less Favors, and at least six other Ratings Committee members believe that the article does not deserve a Bronze Star, they may do so. This, hopefully, will be EXTREMELY rare - I can't see it really happening ever if the committee is chosen wisely. <br/><br />
For the initial Ratings Committee, I proposal the following members -- Surgo, Lord Dhazriel, Rithaniel, TK-Squared, Jota, Ganteka, Daniel Draco, and Genowhirl. That is eight members. I would not normally nominate myself, however, at Aarnott's insistance, I will do so, on the basis that you shouldn't push a job on others you're not willing to do yourself.<br />
|orig=Dragon Child<br />
|src=[[User_talk:Green_Dragon#Rating_System]]<br />
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Around the same time, (July 26, 2009), Green Dragon adds the NeedsBalance and Wording templates to [[User:Rithaniel|Rith]]'s [[Gravity Warrior (3.5e Class)|Gravity Warrior]] (the 267th most popular article (by view count) on this site of over 16,000 articles (which include navigation pages, so in reality it's a lot higher), the 25th most popular base class by view count, and probably the most popular base class by rating count and overall approval, rivaled only perhaps by the [[Deviant (3.5e Class)|deviant]]). This is notable not for it's specific significance, but because it adds to the growing rift between Green Dragon and members of the user base.<br />
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One could argue that given the backlash Green Dragon took for his actions, he was right in arguing that templates create interest in improving an article (perhaps moreso than ratings), given how many stepped forward to help Rith. That said, one could also argue this also was bad, because changes were made to the article that did not improve grammar, but instead changed Rith's wording entirely. These changes imply that what is on the page is Rith's work, whereas now, for better or for worse, not all of it is (not taking a shot at you Rith, I hope I've made that clear). <br />
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It can also be argued that, given how small these changes were in most cases, these templates were excessive, and such templates should be reserved for articles that a really in need of an overhaul.<br />
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'''late July-early August, 2009'''<br />
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Discussion on the proposed rating system dies down, with no direct opposition.<br />
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TK-Squared works on the [[User:TK-Squared/Lavabox/Stars|requisite templates]] for this new rating system. <br />
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TK-Squared creates the now deleted [[RC:Nominations]] as the first step toward implementing the new system. Shortly afterward Green Dragon applies the delete template (with the reasoning: "No. We will use the reviewing template process. Were using logic and reasoning here." to this new article, prompting a [[User_talk:Green_Dragon#What_the_Hell|backlash]] from Surgo. <br />
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[http://www.dandwiki.com/w/index.php?title=Special:Log&type=block&user=&page=&pattern=&limit=100&offset=0 Momentarily afterward, Green Dragon bans Surgo for one year, with "unacceptable username" as reasoning, as well as Sulacu and TK-Squared (the three to immediately protest his actions). Almost immediately afterward he unblocks these same users, only to re-ban them with the following justification: "''Unacceptable username: Please email me if you are confused about this at all.''" ]<br />
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This is key for me. Surgo, Sulaco, and TK-Squared were all a bit abrasive in their responses, but did not necessarily do anything to merit an immediate ban, especially one that came without any prior justification (and to me, "unacceptable username" means nothing--from the outside looking in it looks bad--just saying, Green Dragon).<br />
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Aarnott then blocks Green Dragon for three days: (''Intimidating behaviour/harassment: You are acting out of line right now. Perhaps you should clear your head and come back to this later... Otherwise, this site will lose a lot of its users.''). <br />
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This is another key point. For the disenchanted members of the user base, this banning is simply a way of sending a message, since no one can truly ban Green Dragon from his own site. For Green Dragon it is obviously something much more serious, and he responds by blocking every admin other than himself. <br />
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Shortly afterward the site is taken down; the reasons for this are still unknown. I know that personally, I speculated that perhaps the site might never come back up given that all of the admins were removed (with seemingly dodgy reasons) and then the site came down. Given the new look (Google ads) the site sported when it came back up, I can now speculate that perhaps the down time was for the installation of these ads, although I cannot be sure. <br />
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Anyway, the site went down. We (as a user base) are still are not sure exactly why. While it was down, those blocked planned to create a new wiki, believing that they could no longer trust Green Dragon. They have gone ahead with these plans. <br />
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When the site came back on, Green Dragon offered his explanation for the banning: he needed to re-think the site hierarchy in light of the fact that he got banned from his own website, something which was unacceptable for him. This goes back to how you interpret Aarnott's action: was it just a message, or was it something more?<br />
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After that users are unblocked and [[User_talk:Green_Dragon#Make_Love.2C_Not_War|attempts at explanation are made, but neither side appears satisfied with the other]], and we are left where we are now. <br />
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That's basically it. I hope it will prove enlightening. -- [[User:ThunderGod Cid|TG Cid]] 21:27, 21 August 2009 (MDT)<br />
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:In retrospect, I should have just linked you to the other page that this came from. I apologize. -- [[User:ThunderGod Cid|TG Cid]] 21:29, 21 August 2009 (MDT)<br />
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== Thank You ==<br />
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Thanks for all the info. I knew it would be too convoluted for me to find everything, so again thanks, and I really hope this all gets sorted out. If not then I guess I made the right choice about finding a different home for my most recent creations. Although I really do hope this Wiki bounces back I do like most of the Users here. -- [[User:Sepsis|Sepsis]] 09:25, 24 August 2009 (MDT)<br />
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== Admin Nomination ==<br />
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Hi Sepsis. Your actions as a contributor, and your continued support since the recent fork (while also stating your mind like above and remaining afar from the confrontations) and your general great attitude have always impressed me. As such, I recently [[Requests for Adminship/Sepsis|nominated you for adminship]]. I think a future of users like you can be great for the site, and I'm sure the community would love to hear your feedback. However it ends up or you feel about it, thanks. &nbsp;<small><span style="border: 1px solid black; -moz-border-radius:10px">[[User:Hooper|'''<span style="background-color:White; color:Black; -moz-border-radius-topleft:10px; -moz-border-radius-bottomleft:10px"> Hooper </span>''']][[User talk:Hooper|<span style="background-color:Black; color:white; -moz-border-radius-bottomleft:10px; -moz-border-radius-topleft:10px">&nbsp;&nbsp;talk&nbsp;&nbsp;</span>]][[Special:Contributions/Hooper|<span style="background-color:black; color:white">&nbsp;&nbsp;contribs&nbsp;&nbsp;</span>]][[Special:Emailuser/Hooper|<span style="background-color:black; color:white; -moz-border-radius-bottomright:10px; -moz-border-radius-topright:10px">&nbsp;&nbsp;email&nbsp;&nbsp;</span>]]</span></small> 18:54, 15 October 2009 (MDT)<br />
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:I want to thank you for nominating me for Admin. I hope that regardless of the outcome you will consider me a friend and please do not hesitate to ask me for any assistance I could give. Again thank you for your support. -- [[User:Sepsis|Sepsis]] 21:19, 15 October 2009 (MDT)<br />
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::Welcome to Adminship. You are now part of "The Face" of D&D Wiki. Honestly, as you will notice, not much has been changed now that you are an admin. If anything, I would say more burden is placed on you. But first, for the the new features and their uses. You can now delete pages, protect pages, rollback edits, block users and IP's, edit every page, patrol edits, and do a couple more minor things.<br />
::;What it is:<br />
::*What deleting pages is, is self explanatory.<br />
::*What protecting pages is, is also pretty self explanatory.<br />
::*Rolling back edits is a method for removing spam. It is more powerful than the conventional method of undoing edits. Instead of showing a diff of the edit in question once clicked, it instantly rollsback all the edits by the user or IP in question on a certain page. For example if I edited my user page and you clicked "rollback" on that edit it would rollback all the edits up to the point where someone else has edited it. Be careful using this, it can be very helpful but also very harmful.<br />
::*What blocking users and IP's is, is also self explanatory.<br />
::*Editing every page is another self explanatory one.<br />
::*Patrolling edits is a method for keeping [[Special:Recentchanges|RC]] in check, it can be seen once a diff is clicked. All it does is, once "Mark as Patrolled Edits" is clicked, it marks the edits as patrolled so the edit will no longer show up on [[Special:Recentchanges|RC]] when "Hide Patrolled" is marked.<br />
::;When or how it should be used<br />
::*Deleting pages is normally done through [[:Category:Candidates for Deletion]]. Anything with a good reason to be deleted on that page should be deleted. The other time pages should be deleted is when someone makes a certain page and after a few edits they either blank the page or replace it with something like "Please delete this". They don't want to work on it, and unless it is really well made and fleshed out, just delete it.<br />
::*Protecting pages has quite a few different times when it should be used. Pages should be protected according to the author's wishes (with [[Template:Locked Page]] added to the top of the page in question), in case of conflict (with [[Template:Temp Locked Page]] added to the top of the page in question), in case of [[Help:FAQ#What are OGL, OGC, SRD, and GNU FPL?|OGC]] published materials (with [[Template:OGL Top]] added to the top of the page in question and [[Template:OGL Bottom]] added to the bottom), or finally if the page is a vital part of D&D Wiki's organization. If it deals with D&D Wiki's organization it either needs to be be protected from IP edits or all non-sysop edits. As a rule of thumb pages up to two tiers deep (up for discussion/rethinking) from the [[Main Page]] are normally locked to anyone but sysops and all the others are just protected from IP edits. For Example [[3.5e Homebrew]] is protected from all non-sysop edits whereas a deeper in page like [[LA 0 Races]] is only protected from IP edits. No template has to be added to pages if thay are part of D&D Wiki's organization (even though some do exist like [[Template:Admin Locked Page]])<br />
::*Blocking a user or IP should only be used after an IP or user vandalizes a certain page. To block someone just click "block" (found either on [[Special:Recentchanges|RC]] or the diff in question) and fill out the corresponding form. For a typical vandalism attack I normally block the user for two weeks. Certain things demand a longer block and others a shorter. No standards have been set for block lengths, use your best judgment.<br />
::*Editing every page on D&D Wiki mostly means you can now edit the [[SRD:System Reference Document|SRD]] and the [[MSRD:Modern System Reference Document|MSRD]]. Feel free to edit them if you find inaccuracies. If interested further please look at the [[SRD Talk:System Reference Document#SRD ToDo List|SRD ToDO List]] or the [[MSRD Talk:Modern System Reference Document#Tasks|MSRD tasks]]. Of course that is only the base. There is never enough help to get everything done, so I am sure your help would be appreciated.<br />
::*Patrolling edits should, in a nutshell, be used when you have looked over an edit and fixed everything that needs to be fixed (this includes reviewing the content with templates, answering questions, sending MoI's, etc).<br />
::I know this is really long-winded, so I'll keep the rest short. You have more burden on yourself now that you are an admin because users will be looking at you for editing help, knowledge of the standards, etc etc. It's a bit more work, but I really hope you enjoy being an admin and I hope you decide to stay around on D&D Wiki for a while more to come. Welcome to Adminship, again you're now part of "The Face" of D&D Wiki. --[[User:Green Dragon|Green Dragon]] 20:54, 22 October 2009 (MDT)<br />
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== 4e Races ==<br />
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With the recent reorganization of [[4e Races]] would you mind going through it and adding, mainly, [[Template:Needsbalance]] where appropriate (others to of course if you notice)? --[[User:Green Dragon|Green Dragon]] 20:14, 14 February 2010 (UTC)<br />
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== Featured Article Nomination ==<br />
I have nominated your article, [[Satyr (4e Race)]] for FA status. See the talk page for the discussion. &nbsp;<small><span style="border: 1px solid black; -moz-border-radius:10px">[[User:Hooper|'''<span style="background-color:White; color:Black; -moz-border-radius-topleft:10px; -moz-border-radius-bottomleft:10px"> Hooper </span>''']][[User talk:Hooper|<span style="background-color:Black; color:white; -moz-border-radius-bottomleft:10px; -moz-border-radius-topleft:10px">&nbsp;&nbsp;talk&nbsp;&nbsp;</span>]][[Special:Contributions/Hooper|<span style="background-color:black; color:white">&nbsp;&nbsp;contribs&nbsp;&nbsp;</span>]][[Special:Emailuser/Hooper|<span style="background-color:black; color:white; -moz-border-radius-bottomright:10px; -moz-border-radius-topright:10px">&nbsp;&nbsp;email&nbsp;&nbsp;</span>]]</span></small> 00:26, 21 February 2010 (UTC)<br />
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== D&D 4.0 Future Sourcebook ==<br />
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Hey Sepsis,<br />
:Would you mind helping me out with my [[D&D 4.0 Future (4e Sourcebook)|D&D 4.0 Future Sourcebook]]? Alls I need done is getting Star Wars stuff on it and Metroid stuff on it (if you want to put Halo stuff on it, go ahead). --[[User:Axl|Axl]] 11:51, 26 March 2011 (MDT)<br />
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== Racial Hybrid System ==<br />
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Hey Sepsis,<br />
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:I saw on your user page that you had 4e stuff, so maybe I can ask you this. Do you think that you could look at my [[User:Axl/My Sandbox/Racial Hybrid System|Racial Hybrid System]] and see if it's balanced? I posted this on Green Dragon's [[User Talk:Green Dragon|talk page]], but haven't received a reply. Thanks.<br />
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--[[User:Axl|Axl]] 20:56, 10 November 2011 (MST)<br />
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==Please remove all my material from this wiki==<br />
I asked Green Dragon but he refuses. I would like all pages created by me to be deleted from this wiki. The reasons are personal and nobody's business but my own. Thank you for your cooperation. --<span style="font-size:90%;">[[User:ScryersEve|<span title="User page of Scryer's Eve"><span style="color:#006565;">Scryer's</span> <span style="color:#db6700;">Eve</span></span>]] <sup>([[User_talk:ScryersEve|<span style="color:#0053BF!important;" title="Talk page of Scryer's Eve">talk</span>]] | <span title="Contributions of Scryer's Eve">[[Special:Contributions/ScryersEve|<span style="small-caps;color:#0053BF!important;" title="Contributions of Scryer's Eve">contribs</span>]])</span></sup> 16:00, 26 March 2012 (MDT)</div>ScryersEvehttps://www.dandwiki.com/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Marasmusine/Archive_1&diff=556775User talk:Marasmusine/Archive 12012-03-26T22:00:24Z<p>ScryersEve: </p>
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:Hi, thanks. [[User:Marasmusine|Marasmusine]] 12:04, 8 November 2008 (MST)<br />
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::You are quite welcome. --[[User:Green Dragon|Green Dragon]] 13:49, 8 November 2008 (MST)<br />
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Concerning your comments on traps, the DMG says that traps can indeed be Solo. The Soul Gem is the only example provided, but the text indicates that they should be complex and require a skill challenge in order to defeat. Minion traps are difficult for me to imageine. When i think of minions, i think "one-hit-kill", and traps cannot be killed, in the traditional sense. One way you might make them "miniony" is to make their damamge (if any) constant; such as 5 fire damage rather than 1d10 fire damage, or similar. Otherwise, they might as well just be easier traps or have several of them compose a larger trap? I know i've seen a trap with several pressure plates and points of danger. Hope this helps, albiet perhaps a little late in coming. [[User:Techpriest|Techpriest]] 17:05, 3 October 2009 (MDT)<br />
:Hah, here is your belated reply. I think that the effects of "minion traps" would be so minor, that they could instead be treated as a terrain effect. [[User:Marasmusine|Marasmusine]] 15:14, 8 July 2011 (MDT)<br />
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Um, this has nothing to do with welcoming you, but in response to what you sent me on my talk page, I posted a response there, and I decided to post it here too.Well, here goes:<br />
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It's ok. I do think we should collaborate, though. Below is a suggested goblin race.<br />
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==Goblin==<br />
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''''Goblins are sly, dangerous creatures.''''<br />
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{{Template:4e Racial Traits<br />
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|height=3&rsquo;0&rdquo;&ndash;4&rsquo;5&rdquo<br />
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|weight=60&ndash;90lb.<br />
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|abilities=+2 Dexterity, +2 Charisma<br />
|size=Small<br />
|speed=6<br />
|vision=Normal<br />
|languages=Common, Goblin<br />
|skills=+2 Diplomacy, +2 Acrobatics<br />
|trait1=Goblin Reflex<br />
|description1=You gain a +2 bonus to to Reflex defense.<br />
|trait2=Taunt<br />
|description2=You can use ''taunt'' as an at-will power.<br />
|trait3=Jump<br />
|description3=You can use ''jump'' as a daily power<br />
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{{4e Power<br />
|name=Taunt<br />
|owner=Race<br />
|class=Goblin<br />
|type=Utility<br />
|usage=At-Will<br />
|flavor=You tease your enemies and they charge, ready for vengeance<br />
|keyword1=Charm<br />
|actiontype=Minor Action<br />
|range=Close burst<br />
|rangemod=5<br />
|target=All enemies in burst<br />
|effect=All enemies within close burst bull charge you.<br />
}}<br />
{{4e Power<br />
|name=Jump<br />
|owner=Race<br />
|class=Goblin<br />
|type=Utility<br />
|usage=Daily<br />
|flavor=You jump, avoiding a would-be lethal attack<br />
|keyword1=Personal<br />
|actiontype=Immediate Action<br />
|range=Melee personal<br />
|trigger=You are hit by an attack that would kill you.<br />
|target=You<br />
|effect=The attack does no damage.<br />
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I hope you like this idea, but I'm open to suggestions. You'll notice I didn't include part of the goblin race. It's the part that's hardest for me, so I thought you could come up with that.Until next time, --Korinn 16:07, 27 January 2012 (MST)<br />
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:Hi. Try "+2 Dexterity, +2 Charisma or +2 Constitution". Goblins don't strike me as being particularly diplomatic. Taunt allows the player to move all the enemies on the field, three times a round, every round, every encounter. It could be modified into an encounter power that only taunts one enemy. Jump should be an Immediate Reaction, and a level 2 (or higher) racial utility power. [[User:Marasmusine|Marasmusine]] 01:46, 29 January 2012 (MST)<br />
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== Comment ==<br />
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I noticed your comment on [[Arcane Tank (4e Optimized Character Build)]] about how that table looked like it does not belong in 4e. I actually made that table based off the 4e tables in the books, however any advice or comments you have about that table would be appreciated so I can improve it. --[[User:Green Dragon|Green Dragon]] 14:55, 28 December 2011 (MST)<br />
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:Thanks, I've left some feedback, I'll probably have some more suggestions later down the line too. [[User:Marasmusine|Marasmusine]] 15:22, 28 December 2011 (MST)<br />
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::Thanks. I now see that you were referring to the table's content not the actual table itself. Sorry about the confusion. --[[User:Green Dragon|Green Dragon]] 15:26, 28 December 2011 (MST)<br />
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== Barnstar ==<br />
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{{Barnstar|I give you this barnstar for adding [[Meta Pages#Improving, Reviewing, and Removing Articles|improving, reviewing, and removing article]] templates to many 4e classes and races. Thanks for improving the quality of D&D Wiki. --[[User:Green Dragon|Green Dragon]] 15:44, 30 December 2011 (MST)}}<br />
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Thanks a lot! Here is a barnstar. --[[User:Green Dragon|Green Dragon]] 15:44, 30 December 2011 (MST)<br />
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:Thanks! I'm on a quest to review all the 4e races, and then improve any that look promising. [[User:Marasmusine|Marasmusine]] 02:13, 31 December 2011 (MST)<br />
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== Sentient, Smilodon Maioribus Topics (Race, Feats, Powers, etc) ==<br />
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Hello Marasmusine, <br />
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As I read on your user talk page here you are interested in improving and expanding all user created races and their relative content, and I am exceptionally glad you contacted me via [[User talk:Argent Fatalis|my user talk page]] regarding the content I am developing. I have little experience with D&D and have but a few fragments of what is mixed 4e and 3.5e (and I believe even earlier content like 3e) in my possession. However, I have several concepts and ideas that I would like to see played out and experimented with. Many of the balance issues come from lack of experience, or from design ideals with the [[Sentient, Smilodon Maioribus (4e Race)|Maioribus race]], such as a philosophy of equilibrium, where some aspects such as magic are exchanged for greater, and more natural melee prowess, along side ideals of sacrifice; playing a Large creature alone seems to come with reasonable and expected penalty, but a Quadruped on top of this offers even greater weaknesses, and benefits, be them game mechanics and more importantly, roleplaying encounters.<br />
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Seeing as you are much more well versed in D&D than I, I again appreciate your notification and appropriate flagging of the pages in question. I would like to ask for your assistance in discussion and refinement of both the Sentient Smilodon as a race, but also aid with its inherent mechanical issues (Large quadrupedal Beast, lack of conventional weapons, magical void), to create a powerful, yet well balanced race that differs from the normal format.<br />
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--[[User:Argent Fatalis|Argent Fatalis]] 13:08, 11 January 2012 (MST)<br />
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Hello again Marasmusine,<br />
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Thank you for your [[User talk:Argent Fatalis|quick reply]] to my message here on your talk page. Hoping that I might better be able to supply general concepts and ideals for the Sentient Smilodon as a race to you, I have [[Talk:Talk:Sentient, Smilodon Maioribus (4e Race)|edited the talk page for the race]]. Regarding the changes, I absolutely not mind any edits made if they could be discussed with myself, primarily for the reasoning that I would like to know what is considered "in bounds" and or what the issue is as a learning exercise. I have absolutely no issues with commentary, critique, modification and the like, but would rather avoid having to completely reformat functions in the future. That said, I believe many of the issues of balance (such as Mortal Bite and Maim) come from my lack of understanding of 4e scaling, and in some part, miscommunication and, given the raw amount of information I've crafted thus far, some English failures or sentences not worded correctly. I hope that on the Sentient, Smilodon Maioribus' talk page that I've better explained things that may not have been clear, worded poorly, or are just not obvious. For example, Darkvision seems to be convoluted in the area of true "night vision" and "pitch black vision", where in the case of Maioribus, it is simply the ability to see with minimal light, but function normally in day time, typical of other felines.<br />
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A "Design Declaimer" I believe is a must, as the whole idea, while I believe would be just fine to any party, I admit is certainly not for everyone, and I make numerous references to Dungeon Master discretion for exceptions within the talk page information, which could lead to significant problems in some scenarios, so caution is absolutely advised.<br />
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There are indeed images of the closest relative to this otherwise fictional creature, in the actual (but now extinct) ''Smilodon populator'', along with its relatives including the famous ''Smilodon fatalis''. I can certainly acquire a picture.<br />
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--[[User:Argent Fatalis|Argent Fatalis]] 15:35, 11 January 2012 (MST)<br />
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Hello Marasmusine,<br />
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I noted you made mention of a possibility of a Race-Class restriction in the [[Talk:Sentient, Smilodon Maioribus (4e Race)|Smilodon Maioribus talk page]], where certain Powers (and some Feats) could be disassociated from Racial restrictions and implemented into a specific class, in order to solve major mechanical flaws, such as weapons, armor, Power damage, Feat scaling, etc. This idea had come to me in earlier times, but I was unsure as to the rules regarding the idea of making Maioribus limited to one (or a handful) of Race specific classes, which would have the specific features (outside of explicitly racial, such as Large, Quadruped, Beast, etc) contained within them. Is this reasonable possibility? While I can believe some users who may review the race will be disappointed, I equally believe a Disclaimer could be included stating that the race may not function well for all 4e Campaigns, and that it would be up to a Dungeon Master's decision if he or she would allow the Greater Smilodon race, and additionally, deviation from its specific Class-Race type(s), so as not to rule out possibility.<br />
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With this, I again appreciate your assistance and patience with the construction, refinement, balancing and ultimate publishing of [[Sentient, Smilodon Maioribus (4e Race)|Smilodon Maioribus]] on the Dungeons and Dragons Wiki.<br />
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--[[User:Argent Fatalis|Argent Fatalis]] 12:53, 12 January 2012 (MST)<br />
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Hello Marasmusine,<br />
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I've made several adjustments to the [[Sentient, Smilodon Maioribus (4e Race)|Smilodon Maioribus page]] including the addition of the Race-Class and its functions, such as Setup, Feral Challenge, and the migration of Hemorrhaging Wounds and Mortal Bite to that area. I would like your opinion on its current status and possible approval should it seem solid and well rounded before we progress to modifying the Racial Feats (and ultimately creating Class Feats). One of the former Racial Feats, [[Intensity (4e Feat)|Intensity]] has been modified accordingly to 4e Standards (instead of using 3e and 3.5e).<br />
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When possible, if you could re-review the entirety of the Sentient, Smilodon Maioribus race to see if I missed any details or if it includes portions that are no longer applicable. Thank you for your continued assistance, Marasmusine.<br />
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--[[User:Argent Fatalis|Argent Fatalis]] 10:13, 16 January 2012 (MST)<br />
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Hello Marasmusine,<br />
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As I write this I must inform you that I have been called to duty, starting this Monday, January 23rd 2012, and thus will be out of contact for some time, likely several months. I write this message to you to express my sincerest thanks for your astounding efforts in not only editing and improving all of the 4e content, but namely my personal projects, which you extended your assistance too in full. I truly and honestly thank you for this, and hope that you continue to provide support in this manner to others, like me, who may come and wish to participate on the D&D Wiki.<br />
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With my topic of Sentient, Smilodon Maioribus now on hold for several months, as I will likely have limited access to the Internet, I give you permission to edit it, keeping in the spirit of its design and overall feeling, as you see fit. I hope that if you choose to do so, that you find great success and satisfaction in doing so. I will certainly return as soon as possible, and wish to speak with you again in the future.<br />
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With best regards and thanks,<br />
--[[User:Argent Fatalis|Argent Fatalis]] 11:58, 21 January 2012 (MST)<br />
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Hello Marasmusine,<br />
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I would like to thank you for your help with my Tiefling-orc race. i had a litle trouble with the formating i hope to fix that problem in the future. this is a grate site i find it realy helpful.--[[User:Lucasjames|Lucasjames]] 19:08, 21 March 2012 (MDT)<br />
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==Spam==<br />
Do you ever get the feeling that they're doing it just to mess with us? [[User:Silverkin|Silverkin]] 10:48, 13 January 2012 (MST)<br />
:Ha ha, I've seen wikis in a worse state. [[User:Marasmusine|Marasmusine]] 11:11, 13 January 2012 (MST)<br />
::Me too, but this is a D&D wiki - I could understand selling D&D-related products, but these spam posts have nothing at all to do with D&D. No one will ever even see those posts (except to delete them), because nothing on this wiki has anything to do with them. -[[User:Silverkin|Silverkin]] 11:45, 13 January 2012 (MST)<br />
:Ah but you must realise these are bots, not people. All that matters is that maybe 1 person in 10,000 clicks on that link. Adding recaptcha to new account creation would stop all this :) 11:54, 13 January 2012 (MST)<br />
::I see, that makes more sense. -[[User:Silverkin|Silverkin]] 11:58, 13 January 2012 (MST)<br />
:::That said, there are [http://www.dndwiki.com some wikis] that stop spam before it gets as bad as it is here :-P<br />
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== [[Neo Reploid (4e Race)|Neo Reploid]] ==<br />
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A question about my Neo Reploid race, do I really have to have attack bonuses per tier? --[[User:Axl|Axl]] 18:00, 21 January 2012 (MST)<br />
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:Ah, thanks for explaining. If I have tiered damage rolls, is that fine? --[[User:Axl|Axl]] 17:33, 27 January 2012 (MST)<br />
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::Thanks for answering my questions. --[[User:Axl|Axl]] 17:43, 28 January 2012 (MST)<br />
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==Reviews==<br />
Is there somewhere I can post to ask for reviews on a page? I'm trying to improve one of my PrCs that I put together, but nobody has reviewed it so I don't know what needs to be changed. -[[User:Silverkin|Silverkin]] 10:42, 22 January 2012 (MST)<br />
:Hi Silkverkin, I'm flattered that you think that I might know! I can't see any formal review request system, so can only suggest the main talk page, or asking individual editors. I'd be happy to look at it myself, although it's been a few years since I've played 3.5 so I may not be able to suggest much. [[User:Marasmusine|Marasmusine]] 10:57, 22 January 2012 (MST)<br />
::I suppose I could ask Green Dragon about it, to be sure. If there isn't one already, maybe we (the wiki as a whole) should start one. I know that I at least am somewhat uncertain when making new content, with regard to balance and whatnot. Balance is one of my sticking points - I like to make sure that even my April Fools submissions are properly balanced. -[[User:Silverkin|Silverkin]] 11:53, 22 January 2012 (MST)<br />
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== Post Review ==<br />
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Hey. First off, thanks for helping me balance my 4e race. But I'm just wondering, after I get everything fixed, can I remove that notice on my own and put it back into the 'races without improving template' section on my own? Or should I wait for someone to give the changes a once over first? --[[User:Fortis|Fortis]] 23:23, 27 January 2012 (MST)<br />
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:Yes, and you are asked to. I tried to make the wording on the [[Template:Reviewing Template]] understandable in this regard. For example, it says "''When the mechanics have been changed so that this template is no longer applicable please remove this template.''" Do you find this wording clear? --[[User:Green Dragon|Green Dragon]] 00:23, 28 January 2012 (MST)<br />
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== spam template ==<br />
It's so tempting sometimes, you know what I mean? Imagine it - being able to report spam just by adding <nowiki>{{spam}}</nowiki> to the page, and have all the details filled in automatically. So simple, so elegant... and yet so not worth the time it would take to actually create such a thing. <br />
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On a side note, something tells me I've been awake for far too long. -[[User:Silverkin|Silverkin]] 01:54, 27 February 2012 (MST)<br />
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:I've done a little digging and apparently spammers have found an exploit in reCaptcha that allows their spambots through about 40% of the time, hence the increase in spam from January onwards. A lot of wikis and forums have been suffering with this. Hopefully my admin application will go through and I can zap the spam as I see it (feel free [[Requests for Adminship/Marasmusine|to comment!]]. [[User:Marasmusine|Marasmusine]] 04:27, 27 February 2012 (MST)<br />
::I hope it goes through. I'm behind you all the way! On a side note, perhaps looking into WP Captcha Free might be useful as well. From what I hear they're pretty effective, but I have no idea how it works or if it would be any help solving our problem. I think it may be well worth investigating, but that's just my opinion. -[[User:Silverkin|Silverkin]] 07:48, 27 February 2012 (MST)<br />
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== Adminship ==<br />
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Welcome to Adminship. You are now part of "The Face" of D&D Wiki. You have more burden on yourself now that you are an admin because users will be looking at you for editing help, knowledge about pages, etc. Make sure to familiarize yourself with [[Meta Pages]] to help address this burden. I recommend you take a look at [[Special:ListGroupRights]] if you have not already. Some of the the new feature's uses follow. You can now delete pages, protect pages, rollback edits, block users and IP's, edit every page, patrol edits, and do a couple more minor things.<br />
* Deleting pages is normally done through [[:Category:Candidates for Deletion]]. Anything with a good reason to be deleted on that page should be deleted. Other times pages should be deleted is in the case of vandalism, spam, or even when someone makes a page and after a few edits they either blank the page or replace it with something like "Please delete this". If this page consisted of close to just the preload it is fine to just delete it.<br />
* Protecting pages has quite a few different times when it should be used. Pages should be protected according to the author's wishes (with [[Template:Locked Page]] added to the top of the page in question), in case of conflict (with [[Template:Temp Locked Page]] added to the top of the page in question), in case of [[Help:FAQ#What are OGL, OGC, SRD, and GNU FPL?|OGC]] published materials (with [[Template:OGL Top]] added to the top of the page in question and [[Template:OGL Bottom]] added to the bottom), or finally if the page is a vital part of D&D Wiki's organization. Also, if it deals with D&D Wiki's organization the page needs to be protected. For Example [[3.5e Homebrew]] is protected from all non-sysop edits whereas a different page like [[LA 0 Races]] is only protected from IP edits. No template needs to be added to pages if they are part of D&D Wiki's organization (even though some do exist like [[Template:Admin Locked Page]])<br />
* Blocking a user or IP should be used with respect to [[Meta Pages#Policies|policy]]. To block someone just click "block" (found on [[Special:Recentchanges|Recent Changes]], the diff in question, the userpage, etc) and fill out the corresponding form. For a typical vandalism attack I normally block the user for two weeks. Certain things demand a longer block and others a shorter. No standards have been set for block lengths so use your best judgment.<br />
* Editing every page on D&D Wiki mostly means you can now edit the [[SRD:System Reference Document|SRD]] and the [[MSRD:Modern System Reference Document|MSRD]]. Feel free to edit them if inaccuracies are found. If interested further please look at the [[SRD Talk:System Reference Document#SRD ToDo List|SRD ToDO List]] or the [[MSRD Talk:Modern System Reference Document#Tasks|MSRD tasks]]; I am sure your help will be appreciated.<br />
Now that you are an admin I would say more burden is placed on you, but I really hope you enjoy being an admin and I hope you decide to stay around on D&D Wiki for a while more to come. Welcome to Adminship. Again, you're now part of "The Face" of D&D Wiki. --[[User:Green Dragon|Green Dragon]] 09:17, 28 February 2012 (MST)<br />
:Congratulations! You've earned it. -[[User:Silverkin|Silverkin]] 12:54, 28 February 2012 (MST)<br />
::Thanks for your support guys, I look forward to improving and maintaining the wiki. [[User:Marasmusine|Marasmusine]] 13:38, 28 February 2012 (MST)<br />
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Congratulatoins! I have no dout that you'll be an awesome Admin.--[[User:Viziton|Viziton]] 11:39, 29 February 2012 (MST)<br />
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== Deletion ==<br />
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When deleting pages "''Only author requests deletion''", and similar reasonings, are meaningless. Anyone can request that any page gets deleted. The main contributor (what you are using the word author to mean) does get a say, but like anyone main contributors can be wrong. Just be careful, and use the page as the base not the contributors.<br />
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In addition please remember to delete the talk pages of every page you delete. If the page gets restored the talk page will get restored as well. Likewise, if the page gets deleted so does the talk page. Also after deleting a page remember to check "What links here". If anything links to the deleted page it needs to be addressed; by removing the link, striking it though, etc. Looks good though! --[[User:Green Dragon|Green Dragon]] 09:55, 29 February 2012 (MST)<br />
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:Make sure to be mindful and check "What links here". For example, [http://www.dandwiki.com/wiki/Special:WhatLinksHere/Nestor_%28DnD_Deity%29 Nestoy (DnD Deity)] was missed. --[[User:Green Dragon|Green Dragon]] 15:27, 21 March 2012 (MDT)<br />
::Sorry, that was clumsy of me. It won't happen again. [[User:Marasmusine|Marasmusine]] 16:08, 21 March 2012 (MDT)<br />
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==An apology==<br />
Okay, listen. I can't say I'm sorry for what I did, because I don't know what it was. But I know I've missed being part of the community these last few weeks. But when you did that to me, when you said I was spamming, that hurt, Marasmusine. You know how I feel about spam, and how I've proudly fought against it. I regret the rift that formed between us, and eventually resulted in what you did to me. I believed in your honesty, and your integrity, and above all your honor. But then you did a thing to me that shattered all that, and I never even got to know the real reason behind it. That is what I truly regret, the loss of the friendship I thought we shared. All I'm asking is that you just give me a second chance. I don't want to go. -[[User:Silverkin|Silverkin]] 13:05, 11 March 2012 (MST)<br />
:I've replied on your talk page, I'm very sorry for this unintended mistake. [[User:Marasmusine|Marasmusine]] 13:47, 11 March 2012 (MDT)<br />
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::Don't worry about it. I already kinda knew that it was a mistake, but I couldn't pass up the chance to be all dramatic about it. -[[User:Silverkin|Silverkin]] 14:28, 11 March 2012 (MDT)<br />
:::You son of a gun :) [[User:Marasmusine|Marasmusine]] 14:52, 11 March 2012 (MDT)<br />
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==Please remove all my material from this wiki==<br />
I asked Green Dragon but he refuses. I would like all pages created by me to be deleted from this wiki. The reasons are personal and nobody's business but my own. Thank you for your cooperation. --<span style="font-size:90%;">[[User:ScryersEve|<span title="User page of Scryer's Eve"><span style="color:#006565;">Scryer's</span> <span style="color:#db6700;">Eve</span></span>]] <sup>([[User_talk:ScryersEve|<span style="color:#0053BF!important;" title="Talk page of Scryer's Eve">talk</span>]] | <span title="Contributions of Scryer's Eve">[[Special:Contributions/ScryersEve|<span style="small-caps;color:#0053BF!important;" title="Contributions of Scryer's Eve">contribs</span>]])</span></sup> 16:00, 26 March 2012 (MDT)</div>ScryersEvehttps://www.dandwiki.com/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Jazzman831&diff=556774User talk:Jazzman8312012-03-26T21:59:03Z<p>ScryersEve: </p>
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== Welcome to D&D Wiki! == <br />
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;Questions:<br />
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;Formatting<br />
Formatting on D&D Wiki (or any wiki for that matter) can be very difficult, and if you need help a good place to start is [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Help:Editing Help:Editing] on Wikipedia (or even their [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Introduction Introduction] page). This will explain the basic wiki formatting and should provide quite a few useful links that explain more specific areas of wiki formatting. Again, if you have any questions about formatting on D&D Wiki please ask them as, I imagine, anybody will be more than happy to help you get them answered.<br />
;Community<br />
A strong and welcoming community exists on D&D Wiki, and I am sure you will find it rather nice. Most discussions take place on content talk pages, however please feel free to walk into [[Special:TheTavern|The Tavern]] (our local chat room) and talk to some fellow D&D Wikians. Anyway, on D&D Wiki, possibly since discussions are never deleted, people try to be nice. This means please follow Wikipedia's guidelines on [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Civility Civility] and [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Etiquette Etiquette] when discussing anything. Also, on a pretty different note, to ensure people know who posted what, please sign your name after a post with four tildes (<nowiki>~~~~</nowiki>) or by clicking on the signature icon. [[Image:Signature_icon.png]] This will automatically produce your name and the date. Anyway, I hope you come to love the close-knit D&D Wiki community and welcome again, you are now a D&D Wikian. --[[User:Green Dragon|Green Dragon]] 21:43, 27 May 2009 (MDT)<br />
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==D20 Modern==<br />
Saw your question. When it comes to D20 Modern, I've always found [[User:Crysis2]] to be pretty knowledgeable about it. he has been a user for years, and seems to come and go at random. He may have the email enabled so try hitting him up on his talk page. &nbsp;<small><span style="border: 1px solid black; -moz-border-radius:10px">[[User:Hooper|'''<span style="background-color:White; color:Black; -moz-border-radius-topleft:10px; -moz-border-radius-bottomleft:10px"> Hooper </span>''']][[User talk:Hooper|<span style="background-color:Black; color:white; -moz-border-radius-bottomleft:10px; -moz-border-radius-topleft:10px">&nbsp;&nbsp;talk&nbsp;&nbsp;</span>]][[Special:Contributions/Hooper|<span style="background-color:black; color:white">&nbsp;&nbsp;contribs&nbsp;&nbsp;</span>]][[Special:Emailuser/Hooper|<span style="background-color:black; color:white; -moz-border-radius-bottomright:10px; -moz-border-radius-topright:10px">&nbsp;&nbsp;email&nbsp;&nbsp;</span>]]</span></small> 21:55, 12 February 2010 (UTC)<br />
:Thanks, though it looks like he has the same limitations that I have in editing locked pages. I was hoping I could find an admin as a go-to when I find things in the MSRD that need fixed. [[User:Jazzman831|Jazz]][[User talk:Jazzman831|Man]] 17:59, 13 February 2010 (UTC)<br />
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==Hard Worker==<br />
Saw all the edits you have been doing to the Modern section. Nice work. I've seen anybody tackle such a difficult project. If I had cookies I would give them to you. You rock! --[[User:Jay Freedman|Jay Freedman]] 02:04, 25 February 2010 (UTC)<br />
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:Ha ha, thanks! That side of the wiki looks all sad and alone, so I figured I could be it's friend. Though I can't say I'm surprised; even WoTC hardly supports d20M anymore. [[User:Jazzman831|Jazz]][[User talk:Jazzman831|Man]] 02:52, 25 February 2010 (UTC)<br />
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::Hey, I love d20 Modern just fine, but not enough people seem to be interested in playing it. Damn shame too, it's a buttload easier to come up with a character name, among other things. I'll even see about maybe adding some things in if I get the time. -- [[User:Danzig Nyttafjell|Danzig]] 04:57, 26 February 2010 (UTC)<br />
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:::Ha ha ha true! I got into roleplaying through D&D, and I still love it, but for some reason ever since I discovered Modern I'm more interested in it. Part of it is because when I play online, there's a glut of D&D games around, and a lot of them are poorly written and DMed by 13 year olds, so it's harder to get excited about it. Since Modern is a smaller community, the games seem to just better overall. But while I might eventually play another live D&D game, I doubt I'll ever play a live d20M game without specifically seeking one out. (I've never actually played live; all the games I've played in or GMed have been on online boards).<br />
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:::Hrm, I just remembered that I created a class for a game I'm running; maybe I'll add that. I *do* actually have something original to contribute! [[User:Jazzman831|Jazz]][[User talk:Jazzman831|Man]] 05:03, 26 February 2010 (UTC)<br />
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==Valued Opinion==<br />
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Jazzman your edits just keep coming. Good job. If your not careful someone is gonna give you a medal. haha. Question for ya: Would you mind rating one of my classes for me? [[Biotic Vanguard (3.5e Class)]]. My article won't get many page-views or feedback without at least one rating.<br />
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I've seen many of your contributions and believe you could give a decent estimate about it. If you have any questions just let me know. I'd be happy to talk with you about it. I owe you one. Thanks. --[[User:Jay Freedman|Jay Freedman]] 22:42, 1 March 2010 (UTC)<br />
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:Sure thing. Hopefully I'll be able to get to it tomorrow (brain's too tired to do any real thinking tonight). [[User:Jazzman831|Jazz]][[User talk:Jazzman831|Man]] 04:35, 2 March 2010 (UTC)<br />
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::Thanks, I appreciate the effort. You rock! --[[User:Jay Freedman|Jay Freedman]] 07:16, 2 March 2010 (UTC)<br />
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== Spam on Main Talk ==<br />
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That has got to be a bot or something. I'm afraid if this keeps up, IP's will have a tough time editing in the future. (Which is just fine with me of course...) --[[User:Jay Freedman|Jay Freedman]] 01:55, 18 March 2010 (UTC)<br />
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:It's definitely a bot. I actually prefer it when IPs can edit, because it's something that sticks out on the recent changes. When that IP gets a user name it's harder to find the, uh, less than quality edits :)<br />
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:Unfortunately, I think I'm partially to blame for the bot infestation. I pointed out to GD that the captcha was catching me whenever I put stub tags, but the options are pretty much all or nothing. If it stays bad (and I've been on enough wikis to know that it will), he said he will change it back. But having to fill out the captcha is probably slightly less annoying than reverting spam all day long. [[User:Jazzman831|Jazz]][[User talk:Jazzman831|Man]] 16:13, 18 March 2010 (UTC)<br />
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::Well, as long as your happy reverting spam? Whatever. Personally, I hate the stupid robots. But, thats just me. Haha. I mean, what is so hard about getting a username and actually building up some street-cred? To much anonymous stuff with doing it any other way. Dirty robots, grrr... --[[User:Jay Freedman|Jay Freedman]] 08:58, 19 March 2010 (UTC)<br />
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:::Oh I can't stand reverting IP spam. It's sooo much easier (not to mention cheaper) for a spammer to make a robot to do his dirty work. He'd never create an account first, because then he'd actually have to learn about all the wiki's he's vandalizing. And adding links like piuhgsoiurg.com only works if you put it on millions of websites.... [[User:Jazzman831|Jazz]][[User talk:Jazzman831|Man]] 15:54, 19 March 2010 (UTC)<br />
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::::The ReCaptcha may be implemented again, it just depends on the possibilities which MW can now do relating to edits grouped by usergroup and edit types. For example, to the best of my knowledge, it does not allow usergroup: IP to just have ReCaptchas. It clumps Users and IP's together for some reason. Used to not though. --[[User:Green Dragon|Green Dragon]] 00:09, 21 March 2010 (UTC)<br />
::::{{Anti-Vandal Barnstar|For reverting spam on many deleted pages and overall helping keep D&D Wiki clean from vandals' work throughout the last couple of days, I give you this Barnstar. Thanks for your help. --[[User:Green Dragon|Green Dragon]] 00:09, 21 March 2010 (UTC)}}<br />
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:::::Thanks for the barnstar!<br />
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:::::Which version of ReCaptcha are we using? I don't know a lot about MW extensions, but [http://recaptcha.net/plugins/mediawiki/ this] makes it look like you can force captchas on IP's (and it does it by default), which is all we need. The latest version they have is 1.7, which looks to be several years old now. I dunno, reverting vandalism isn't too bad; it's getting my edit count up :) I doubt that it will drop off, since it's coming from bots, but it probably won't increase, either, so I'm not too bothered about it right now. [[User:Jazzman831|Jazz]][[User talk:Jazzman831|Man]] 04:14, 21 March 2010 (UTC)<br />
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::::::If it can get worse, it will. And it will get worse. This is the internet. Nothing is sacred here. Congrats on your Barnstar! You deserve it. Lets get recaptcha working again for those pesky IP's. --[[User:Jay Freedman|Jay Freedman]] 06:08, 21 March 2010 (UTC)<br />
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:Good work keeping D&D Wiki clean of those pesky spam pages! They're such a pain. Keep it up! [[User:Silverkin|Silverkin]] 14:15, 30 March 2011 (MDT)<br />
:Thanks! I do try my best :) [[User:Jazzman831|Jazz]][[User talk:Jazzman831|Man]] 15:47, 30 March 2011 (MDT)<br />
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== To Avoid Getting Into a Twink Debate on Critical Potential ==<br />
Actually, what was proposed was to stack some levels in dervish to get some further utility out of using a weapon with an 18-20 crit range (In this case scimitars), and for an all-evil campaign, that'd be an interesting character (Although, no pun intended, you're playing devil's advocate). Note that I actually added something to the discussion by bringing up the hindrances caused by the prestige class instead of solely posting just to give him flak. There's a lot of really cool stuff in Vile Darkness, but it has a very limited scope of use in most DnD campaigns because of the evil pre-reqs. Name Violation and I were actually having a pretty interesting discussion until you and 71.114.210.152 decided to rally behind a banner for a fight no one was actually participating in, and for that I'm sorry. I'll have to remember some of you here aren't as thick-skinned as me mates back in my own DnD group. --[[User:Regulus|Regulus]] 22:14, 31 March 2010 (UTC)<br />
:If you can't be bothered to respond without veiled insults, I see no reason to bother continuing the discussion. [[User:Jazzman831|Jazz]][[User talk:Jazzman831|Man]] 22:20, 31 March 2010 (UTC)<br />
::My point is that 71.114.210.152 blew his top and responded to a discussion about maxing a character's potential and made it into a diatribe against people he felt were persecuting him. I really am sorry, but understand that I get snide about such things as a sort of harmless teasing. Was "damn twink" really that offensive to you? --[[User:Regulus|Regulus]] 22:40, 31 March 2010 (UTC)<br />
:::I didn't read all the IP's comments, actually, but yeah he was way out of line, though he actually had a good point. (Secret: I automatically assume that anyone who posts as an IP is a 13 year old who's off his meds and is too lazy to figure out how the site works. It tends to work out correctly most of the time.)<br />
:::The phrase "damn twink" itself didn't bother me, what bothered me was your objection to optimizing in what is ultimately an optimization thread, and then repeating your objection, despite two separate people telling you it was unnecessary and unwarranted. Honestly, though, I probably wouldn't have responded a second time had you not criticized the IP for using "big words". It bugs me to death that using proper English, especially on the internet, is seen as a valid excuse to bring someone down. It'd be one thing if anyone on that page were using arcane language that was only extant in order to impress, but everything the IP said should be understandable to anyone with a high school reading comprehension level. [[User:Jazzman831|Jazz]][[User talk:Jazzman831|Man]] 23:25, 31 March 2010 (UTC)<br />
::::I criticized IP for assuming 1) I was a troll, and 2) That, as a troll, I wouldn't have the capacity to use nor understand polysyllabic words. I enjoy conversing with people who have a cultured vocabulary, but it's just pretentious when they call attention to it since, like I said, having an expansive vocabulary hasn't been impressive since the publication of the first thesaurus. I could look through the online thesaurus right now and easily double the length of this post by simply swapping out simpler words with their more prestigious synonyms. I agree he did have a somewhat valid point, since I am a little prejudiced towards potential twinks (We have one in our group, but he's gotten much better about it), but I do enjoy figuring out how to maximize a character's potential, so long as it's clever and in the spirit of playing the game vs. playing the system.<br />
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I'm glad we were able to work this out because your discussion page would imply that you're a really reasonable guy, and I realize I often come off as abrasive to people who don't know me that well.--[[User:Regulus|Regulus]] 18:16, 1 April 2010 (UTC)<br />
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== Adminship ==<br />
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I guess I never directly asked you if you would like to be an admin. Would you like to be nominated for adminship? --[[User:Green Dragon|Green Dragon]] 23:05, 11 April 2010 (UTC)<br />
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:Yes, thank you for nominating me! [[User:Jazzman831|Jazz]][[User talk:Jazzman831|Man]] 01:30, 12 April 2010 (UTC)<br />
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::Welcome to Adminship. You are now part of "The Face" of D&D Wiki. Honestly, as you will notice, not much has been changed now that you are an admin. If anything, I would say more burden is placed on you. I recommend you take a look at [[Special:ListGroupRights]] if you have not already. Some of the the new features' uses pertaining to D&D Wiki follow. You can now delete pages, protect pages, rollback edits, block users and IP's, edit every page, patrol edits, and do a couple more minor things.<br />
::*Deleting pages is normally done through [[:Category:Candidates for Deletion]]. Anything with a good reason to be deleted on that page should be deleted. The other time pages should be deleted is when someone makes a certain page and after a few edits they either blank the page or replace it with something like "Please delete this". If this page consisted of close to just the preload, just delete it.<br />
::*Protecting pages has quite a few different times when it should be used. Pages should be protected according to the author's wishes (with [[Template:Locked Page]] added to the top of the page in question), in case of conflict (with [[Template:Temp Locked Page]] added to the top of the page in question), in case of [[Help:FAQ#What are OGL, OGC, SRD, and GNU FPL?|OGC]] published materials (with [[Template:OGL Top]] added to the top of the page in question and [[Template:OGL Bottom]] added to the bottom), or finally if the page is a vital part of D&D Wiki's organization. If it deals with D&D Wiki's organization it either needs to be be protected from IP edits or all non-sysop edits. As a rule of thumb pages up to two tiers deep (up for discussion/rethinking) from the [[Main Page]] are normally locked to anyone but sysops and all the others are just protected from IP edits. For Example [[3.5e Homebrew]] is protected from all non-sysop edits whereas a deeper in page like [[LA 0 Races]] is only protected from IP edits. No template needs to be added to pages if they are part of D&D Wiki's organization (even though some do exist like [[Template:Admin Locked Page]])<br />
::*Blocking a user or IP should only be used after an IP or user vandalizes a certain page. To block someone just click "block" (found either on [[Special:Recentchanges|RC]] or the diff in question) and fill out the corresponding form. For a typical vandalism attack I normally block the user for two weeks. Certain things demand a longer block and others a shorter. No standards have been set for block lengths, use your best judgment.<br />
::*Editing every page on D&D Wiki mostly means you can now edit the [[SRD:System Reference Document|SRD]] and the [[MSRD:Modern System Reference Document|MSRD]]. Feel free to edit them if you find inaccuracies. If interested further please look at the [[SRD Talk:System Reference Document#SRD ToDo List|SRD ToDO List]] or the [[MSRD Talk:Modern System Reference Document#Tasks|MSRD tasks]]. Of course that is only the base. There is never enough help to get everything done, so I am sure your help would be appreciated.<br />
::*Patrolling edits should, in a nutshell, be used when you have looked over an edit and fixed everything that needs to be fixed (this includes reviewing the content with templates, answering questions, sending MoI's, etc).<br />
::I know this is really long-winded, so I'll keep the rest short. You have more burden on yourself now that you are an admin because users will be looking at you for editing help, knowledge of the standards, etc. It's a bit more work, but I really hope you enjoy being an admin and I hope you decide to stay around on D&D Wiki for a while more to come. Welcome to Adminship, again you're now part of "The Face" of D&D Wiki. --[[User:Green Dragon|Green Dragon]] 21:42, 18 April 2010 (UTC)<br />
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:::Awesome! I'll do you proud. [[User:Jazzman831|Jazz]][[User talk:Jazzman831|Man]] 00:52, 19 April 2010 (UTC)<br />
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::::D&D Wiki proud, but ya welcome once again. --[[User:Green Dragon|Green Dragon]] 02:53, 19 April 2010 (UTC)<br />
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:::::Oh yeah, I meant the royal "you". Or something. [[User:Jazzman831|Jazz]][[User talk:Jazzman831|Man]] 03:09, 19 April 2010 (UTC)<br />
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::::::As a side note please remember to check WhatLinksHere when deleting something. E.g. [http://www.dandwiki.com/wiki/Special:WhatLinksHere/Age_of_War_(4e_Campaign_Setting)], and when deleting something campaign setting related make sure to deal with and delete the related categories. E.g. [[:Category:Age of War Setting]] and [:Category:Age of War Setting Player's Guide Setting]] (to strike out when deleted). --[[User:Green Dragon|Green Dragon]] 03:54, 19 April 2010 (UTC)<br />
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:::::::I'm working my way through them. I didn't think I'd need to worry about user pages, but I can change those. Two of the pages might still be usable outside of the campaign setting, so I'm figuring out now what to do with them. Other than that I think I removed all of the WhatLinksHere's, though I did get a little discombobulated towards the end there with 50 million tabs open. [[User:Jazzman831|Jazz]][[User talk:Jazzman831|Man]] 03:58, 19 April 2010 (UTC)<br />
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:::::::(edit conflict) Those categories are on my to-do list as well. That campaign setting is HUMONGOUS (though almost entirely empty). [[User:Jazzman831|Jazz]][[User talk:Jazzman831|Man]] 04:08, 19 April 2010 (UTC)<br />
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congrads on your accomplishment. {{unsigned|Ethral}}<br />
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:Thanks! [[User:Jazzman831|Jazz]][[User talk:Jazzman831|Man]] 16:48, 29 April 2010 (UTC)<br />
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== Campaign setting rating ==<br />
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Hey,<br />
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I just noticed that recently you rated my campaign setting a 2. I can't argue with that rating, its accurate for how far along my setting is. However, it would be nice if you could hold off on rating untill more of my setting is complete, that way it isn't poorly rated because I am working very hard on finnishing it, and if you look through the pages I'm sure you can be apreciative of whats to come. :) Thanks!--[[User:Vrail|Vrail]] 21:04, 21 April 2010 (UTC)<br />
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:It's no biggie, I just wanted to clear out the "unrated campaign settings" category, so I rated everything. As you fill out the setting feel free to bump up it's rating. [[User:Jazzman831|Jazz]][[User talk:Jazzman831|Man]] 21:10, 21 April 2010 (UTC)<br />
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::Ok, thanks. I can understand why you rated. Also, you've been doing a fair bit of work recently cleaning up the wiki, deleting pages, rating setting etc. Anything I could do to help? I've always wanted to clean up a bit around the wiki. :D--[[User:Vrail|Vrail]] 21:14, 21 April 2010 (UTC)<br />
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:::Well, right now I'm going through the candidates for deletion, which can only be done by admins. The rest of the stuff I'm kind of doing randomly as I see it. If you ever find yourself in need of something to do, what I've been doing is going to [[Meta Pages]], finding a category that needs work and getting to it. [[:Category:Wording Issues]], [[:Category:Needs Balance]], [[:Category:Formatting Issues]] and [[:Category:Stub]] are piling on entries much quicker than they are losing them. <br />
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:::Or if you want a REALLY fun project, you can go through [[Special:DoubleRedirects]], make sure the WhatLinksHere pages are clear, then add delete tags to all of them. I'm kind of dreading getting to that myself :) [[User:Jazzman831|Jazz]][[User talk:Jazzman831|Man]] 22:19, 21 April 2010 (UTC)<br />
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::::Some reasoning's for clearing out the unrated can be seen [[Template:Campaign Setting Rating/meta#Frequent Comments/Questions|here]]. &nbsp;<small><span style="border: 1px solid black; -moz-border-radius:10px">[[User:Hooper|'''<span style="background-color:White; color:Black; -moz-border-radius-topleft:10px; -moz-border-radius-bottomleft:10px"> Hooper </span>''']][[User talk:Hooper|<span style="background-color:Black; color:white; -moz-border-radius-bottomleft:10px; -moz-border-radius-topleft:10px">&nbsp;&nbsp;talk&nbsp;&nbsp;</span>]][[Special:Contributions/Hooper|<span style="background-color:black; color:white">&nbsp;&nbsp;contribs&nbsp;&nbsp;</span>]][[Special:Emailuser/Hooper|<span style="background-color:black; color:white; -moz-border-radius-bottomright:10px; -moz-border-radius-topright:10px">&nbsp;&nbsp;email&nbsp;&nbsp;</span>]]</span></small> 22:27, 21 April 2010 (UTC)<br />
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:::::Oh wow, that's really helpful. I haven't seen that before, maybe it should be linked on the CS Rating template. [[User:Jazzman831|Jazz]][[User talk:Jazzman831|Man]] 23:02, 21 April 2010 (UTC)<br />
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:::::: Awesome, thanks for the list. I'm working a lot on finnishing my campaign setting ([[Orion (3.5e Campaign Setting)|Orion]], you can check out and comment on some of the finnished pages if ya want ;)) but in my free time, that sounds great. :)--[[User:Vrail|Vrail]] 00:19, 22 April 2010 (UTC)<br />
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== firearms and non lethal damage ==<br />
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since i noticed you like modern (judging from all the edits) i thought you may be the person to ask. How do you justify a -4 to hit with a firearm to do non lethal damage? if you hit them with a bullet, you hit them with a bullet. it doesn't make alot of sense to me. Describing it as "you graze them" doesnt really cut it IMHO. whats your take on it? --[[User:Name Violation|Name Violation]] 03:29, 23 April 2010 (UTC)<br />
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:Actually, in d20 Modern you can't deal nonlethal damage with a ranged weapon unless you are using it as an improvised melee weapon (i.e. hitting someone in the face with your gun). See [[MSRD:Death,_Dying,_and_Healing#Nonlethal_Damage|here]]. It's a good thing, too, because I'm not sure I ''could'' justify non-lethal munitions damage, especially with the way nonlethal damage is handled in Modern. [[User:Jazzman831|Jazz]][[User talk:Jazzman831|Man]] 03:38, 23 April 2010 (UTC)<br />
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::thank you. i never knew modern made the distinction for no nonlethal for ranged (short of rubber bullets). now i know, and knowing is half the battle. --[[User:Name Violation|Name Violation]] 04:06, 23 April 2010 (UTC)<br />
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:::No problem :) It's one of those things that's in the back of my head somewhere, I had to look it up to be sure. [[User:Jazzman831|Jazz]][[User talk:Jazzman831|Man]] 04:08, 23 April 2010 (UTC)<br />
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==Deletion Jay==<br />
Anything marked "delete", ''Needs'' to be deleted. They are a stain upon my honor. However, you are actually not allowed to delete a page only upon authors request. That is true. In that case, just get rid of the author box and slap a "needs balance" tag on it. But seriously, thou's articles are s***. Thanks Jazz. --[[User:Jay Freedman|Jay Freedman]] 03:42, 23 April 2010 (UTC)<br />
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:Meh, they don't seem that bad to me, but if that's what you want. I'll go through them and see what needs to be done. Honestly, after looking through so many articles (other than yours), I think we need to implement some sort of "it's not great so it's gone" policy. [[User:Jazzman831|Jazz]][[User talk:Jazzman831|Man]] 04:04, 23 April 2010 (UTC)<br />
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== Double redirects ==<br />
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Ok, I changed the first redirect so it links directly to the third, however the second redirect has no 'what links here' option. The second redirect page is [[800 CE (DnD Campaign Setting)|800 CE]]--[[User:Vrail|Vrail]] 20:10, 12 May 2010 (UTC)<br />
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:What you are looking for is the "toolbox" on the left-hand side of the page. It's the first link in that box. In this case, the what links here page ([[Special:WhatLinksHere/800_CE_(DnD_Campaign_Setting)|here]]) has a TON of links on it. If it has that many, don't worry about changing all of them.<br />
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:Oh, and I remembered one more thing. Before you change the first redirect, check out the what links there. If no pages link to that page either, then add the delete tag with the "unneeded redirect" as the reason. [[User:Jazzman831|Jazz]][[User talk:Jazzman831|Man]] 20:19, 12 May 2010 (UTC)<br />
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::However if not all of them are changed, some links will go red when they shouldn't. Is there something I can do in this case? Because it doesn't feel right just letting a whole bunch of links go...--[[User:Vrail|Vrail]] 20:23, 12 May 2010 (UTC)<br />
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:::Well, don't put a delete tag if any pages link to that page. If any links are left, then don't worry about deleting it. Usually when I go through the deletion category my process is this: 1) decide if the page should get deleted, 2) check "what links here", changing all links that point to that page, then 3) delete the page. If you go through and do steps 1 and 2, then I can do 3 a lot faster.<br />
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:::Basically, the first priority is getting rid of the double redirects, because those pages are broken. If you click on page 1, it won't redirect twice and land you on page 3, it will land on page 2 and get "stuck". Second priority is getting rid of redirects that don't have anything pointing to them. For instance, on that page where you accidentally typed 3.5we instead of 3.5e, when I moved it back it created a redirect, but it's unnecessary, since nobody will ever need to click on a link that says 3.5we. Third priority is avoiding redirects entirely; it's cleaner that way, but not really necessary. [[User:Jazzman831|Jazz]][[User talk:Jazzman831|Man]] 20:32, 12 May 2010 (UTC)<br />
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::::Alright, I think I understand this completely now... and it's starting to feel kinda hopeless. ''':P''' Anyways, I'll do a few a day and see if I can finish by 2011. ''':)'''--[[User:Vrail|Vrail]] 20:46, 12 May 2010 (UTC)<br />
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:::::Ha ha ha, yeah. When I get into one of my moods I'll help you out. The good thing is, once it's done, it'll be really easy to stay on top of. I think the fact that there's so much to be done is what's gotten it to where it is in the first place. [[User:Jazzman831|Jazz]][[User talk:Jazzman831|Man]] 20:51, 12 May 2010 (UTC)<br />
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==Help==<br />
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Hey, I didn't want to bother GD with this cause I've been bugging him a lot lately and you seem to know what your doing here on the wiki. Whenever I go to [[:Category:Orion]] page it auto takes me to an edit preview page with the category text on it except nothing in the edit box. Is it doing this for you, and do you know what in the world is going on here? Oh, and its saying that the page doesn't exist, hence the red link.--[[User:Vrail|Vrail]] 20:11, 16 May 2010 (UTC)<br />
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:Nvm, I figured it out, sorry for bothering you! Oh, and you can delete this message if you want to. ''':)'''--[[User:Vrail|Vrail]] 20:15, 16 May 2010 (UTC)<br />
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::Heh, glad to be of help :p<br />
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::Yeah, categories are strange beasts. They "work" (display content) even if they don't exist yet. But I guess you just figured that out. They also can't be moved, which buggers things up as well. [[User:Jazzman831|Jazz]][[User talk:Jazzman831|Man]] 00:27, 17 May 2010 (UTC)<br />
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== Klas Wullt ==<br />
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I would like to talk about my classes!<br />
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My msn:swedenplus@yahoo.com<br />
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:Sorry about the delay, but I have requested to be added to your buddylist. [[User:Jazzman831|Jazz]][[User talk:Jazzman831|Man]] 20:49, 19 May 2010 (UTC)<br />
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== Sandbox ==<br />
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Hey, since the sandbox auto cleaning no longer works, if I'm ever on and the sandbox hasn't been cleaned in the last three hours and their is something on it, should I go through it and emtpy it? Seing as thats how often it was supposed to be cleaned by the bot.--[[User:Vrail|Vrail]] 21:36, 19 May 2010 (UTC)<br />
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:That's pretty much what I've been doing, yeah. I don't know if it's really important to have an empty sandbox, but it gives me something to do. [[User:Jazzman831|Jazz]][[User talk:Jazzman831|Man]] 21:40, 19 May 2010 (UTC)<br />
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== Understanding D20 Modern ==<br />
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You seem to be very into d20m stuff, so I thought I would pop buy and ask you my question. Normal D&D uses a specific rule set, however D&D adventures may include anything from bone clubs to machine guns. Does this work the same way for d20m to? So could something designed using the d20m rule set, however still set in medieval times be proper for d20m? I didn't think it would generally, however seeing as normal 3.5e works both ways, why not modern? --[[User:Vrail|Vrail]] 04:23, 2 June 2010 (UTC)<br />
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:Actually, yes. But unlike D&D, where you have to invent rules for modern times or else find a third party sourcebook, WotC has published both [[d20 Past]] and [[d20 Future]] (and [[d20 Apocalypse]], if you think the future will end disastrously), so most of the gruntwork has been done for you. IIRC, though, d20 Past has some information about early history, but is only fully fleshed out from ~1500's and beyond. There's no reason you couldn't use the system to go earlier than that, but you'd definitely be grabbing a lot of stuff from D&D at that point. [[User:Jazzman831|Jazz]][[User talk:Jazzman831|Man]] 14:06, 2 June 2010 (UTC)<br />
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::Ok cool, thanks for the nice response. I'm not to familiar with d20 anyways, but it's nice to know if I ever get into it. ''':)''' --[[User:Vrail|Vrail]] 17:03, 2 June 2010 (UTC)<br />
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:::No problem. I love the system and there aren't nearly enough players. I'll take any chance to convert I can get! [[User:Jazzman831|Jazz]][[User talk:Jazzman831|Man]] 19:10, 2 June 2010 (UTC)<br />
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==modern question==<br />
Do you happen to know the name of the alien computer people playable race from the d20 future book? they got implants and stuff... i dont have my books around me and its buggun the hell outta me.--[[User:Name Violation|Name Violation]] 22:11, 4 June 2010 (UTC)<br />
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:Are you thinking of Aleerin? [[User:Jazzman831|Jazz]][[User talk:Jazzman831|Man]] 22:25, 4 June 2010 (UTC)<br />
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::yes, thanks. I'm going to use them in a DnD campaign as warforged from the future--[[User:Name Violation|Name Violation]] 22:28, 4 June 2010 (UTC)<br />
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:::Oooh that sounds like a fun idea. [[User:Jazzman831|Jazz]][[User talk:Jazzman831|Man]] 22:31, 4 June 2010 (UTC)<br />
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== Spammers ==<br />
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It's pretty clear that spam bothers you as much as it bothers me and a few others here. You, however, are an admin. I notice whenever Green Dragon reverts spam he bans the IP poster. Can you ban people as an admin, or do you need other rights? Do you think banning random IPs is even worth it? Do you have the ability to ban an IP range? Would that be more effective, without causing too much collateral damage? --[[User:Badger|Badger]] 21:25, 5 June 2010 (UTC)<br />
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:I can ban IPs, but I choose not to for the most part. If I see the same IP has made two spam edits I'll block them, but 95% of IP spammers change IPs after every edit, and I don't want to eventually have blocked every IP. I think I can block IP ranges, though you have to be ''really'' careful, because it's easy to block too many. I'll look into that and see if it's worth it.<br />
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:What I've been doing in the mean time is any time I see a page has been spammed more than once I block IP editing on that page for a couple months. Don't know if it does anything but it's wortha shot.<br />
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:What we really need to do is put the Captcha back on. The problem with that is that GD says it's all or nothing; if IP's have to fill out Captcha, then so do the rest of the users. If he can find a way to get it so that *only* anons have to use it, then that will solve all of our problems. (The captcha is something that only bureaucrats have access to, which I think at this time is only Green and Blue Dragon). [[User:Jazzman831|Jazz]][[User talk:Jazzman831|Man]] 21:34, 5 June 2010 (UTC)<br />
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::Can we make it so that you only need to add a captcha for edits containing external links? I seem to recall seeing that somewhere, either here or wikipedia or some other wiki... --[[User:Badger|Badger]] 22:01, 5 June 2010 (UTC)<br />
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:::That's how we set it up before. The problem is it considers things like [http://www.dandwiki.com/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Jazzman831&action=edit this] an external link (diffs as well, which are used much more often), even though it's only linking back to D&D wiki. I guess the question is which do you find more annoying? GD said he'd be glad to turn captchas back on if spam gets worse. [[User:Jazzman831|Jazz]][[User talk:Jazzman831|Man]] 22:06, 5 June 2010 (UTC)<br />
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::::Ehh, I guess I rarely use those. I mean, sure I do, but less than once a week, probably. --[[User:Badger|Badger]] 22:10, 5 June 2010 (UTC)<br />
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:::::Cool, I'll leave a note on GD's page. (And btw, I'm definitely seeing a benefit to the tavern now...)<br />
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== Tavern re-opening MoI ==<br />
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Since you commented on Green Dragon's talk page about re-opening the tavern, I thought I would let you know that it's been over a week and I have made [[Discussion:Re-opening_the_tavern%3F_What_does_the_community_think%3F|this discussion]] to ask the community what they think. I would appreciate it if you could stop by and leave your two cents. Thanks, [[User:Badger|Badger]] 20:50, 10 June 2010 (UTC)<br />
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:I think we edited at the same time :) [[User:Jazzman831|Jazz]][[User talk:Jazzman831|Man]] 20:51, 10 June 2010 (UTC)<br />
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::I mentioned that you are (probably) capable of running an IRC channel, in the tavern discussion we were having on Green Dragon's talk page. I figure I should send you a quick message in case I have overstepped my bounds, and you are unwilling or unable to perform the actions I supposed you could. --[[User:Badger|Badger]] 00:31, 29 October 2010 (MDT)<br />
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== Fixing redirects ==<br />
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As I was moving the DnD pages to 3.5e (using the list you gave me on my talk page) I was also fixing all of the redirects. I got to [[DnD Base Classes]]. Over 500 pages link to it. Now, most of those are probably from the breadcrumb, so I can change that, then should I bother to go through all of the remaining links and change them? I will if you say so, I'm fine with doing it. ''':)''' --[[User:Vrail|Vrail]] 05:40, 12 June 2010 (UTC)<br />
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:I'd fix the breadcrumb first and see what happens from there. If there's 500 pages, then that's a perfect example of how redirects ''should'' be used. I suspect, however, that the breadcrumb is the vast majority. [[User:Jazzman831|Jazz]][[User talk:Jazzman831|Man]] 00:30, 13 June 2010 (UTC)<br />
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::I fixed the breadcrumb right after I posted here. There were still over 250, however less than 500. About how redirects should be used; I always thought that redirects were just to prevent red links until they were fixed, meaning all redirects should be removed eventually... I think that is even somewhere on the to-do list... --[[User:Vrail|Vrail]] 01:29, 13 June 2010 (UTC)<br />
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:::If you're talking 250, it should be waaaaaay down on the list. A single redirect really doesn't cause any problems; the only redirects that ''have'' to be fixed are doubles; they don't link properly and page navigation is messed up. But then if you are feeling frisky I certainly won't stop you from fixing the links. [[User:Jazzman831|Jazz]][[User talk:Jazzman831|Man]] 01:50, 13 June 2010 (UTC)<br />
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::::Lol, I think I may just be feeling frisky... tomorrow, or maybe the day after... or the day after that... ''':P''' --[[User:Vrail|Vrail]] 03:12, 13 June 2010 (UTC)<br />
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== Spam!!! ==<br />
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I have reverted spam on the page [[Reybrah (4e Race)]] more than 6 times today, your the admin who is on the most, so please protect the page before its spammed more! --[[User:Vrail|Vrail]] 01:05, 17 June 2010 (UTC)<br />
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:Holy cow, in the time it took me to protect the page another one spammed it! [[User:Jazzman831|Jazz]][[User talk:Jazzman831|Man]] 10:46, 17 June 2010 (UTC)<br />
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== Blocking an IP ==<br />
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The page you just protected, earlier I was reverting the spam then gave up as nobody was protecting it. However when I was doing that I notice that it was the same IP spamming the page. Now that you protected the page, the same IP is spamming ANOTHER page. Please block the IP. --[[User:Vrail|Vrail]] 19:47, 12 July 2010 (UTC)<br />
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:Oops, wasn't paying enough attention. GD got it though. [[User:Jazzman831|Jazz]][[User talk:Jazzman831|Man]] 03:38, 13 July 2010 (UTC)<br />
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::Lol, thanks anyways. ''':)''' --[[User:Vrail|Vrail]] 01:47, 16 July 2010 (UTC)<br />
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== DnD Page Moving ==<br />
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Since you gave me the links I thought I would keep you updated and tell you I had finished moving all of the [http://www.dandwiki.com/w/index.php?title=Special%3AAllPages&from=DnD&to=DnD+zz&namespace=0 Pages that start with DnD]. I'll be moving on to the other list now. If there was any to-do list this was on (didn't see it on the main one), it can be crossed off. ''':)''' --[[User:Vrail|Vrail]] 01:47, 16 July 2010 (UTC)<br />
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:Woo Hoo! I don't know if there really are any current to do lists, so I'll just mentally cross that off. [[User:Jazzman831|Jazz]][[User talk:Jazzman831|Man]] 02:17, 16 July 2010 (UTC)<br />
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== IP you blocked ==<br />
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The IP you just blocked... for a year. That seems a little much for one rude edit; I'm not attacking your move, I'm just wondering, why so long? --[[User:Vrail|Vrail]] 00:08, 28 July 2010 (UTC)<br />
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:It was two edits, one of which was attempting to be somewhat sly. I didn't block him from creating an account so if, within that year, he decides to behave there's nothing stopping him from editing. I'm not sure we are really missing much having him gone. I admit I have sort of a weak spot with IP users in general, vandals, and middle-school behavior, so when a 12 year old anonymous user vandalizes I might overreact a little... [[User:Jazzman831|Jazz]][[User talk:Jazzman831|Man]] 05:59, 28 July 2010 (UTC)<br />
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::lol, alright, thanks for clearing that up. ''':)''' --[[User:Vrail|Vrail]] 13:46, 28 July 2010 (UTC)<br />
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== Lots of broken links ==<br />
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Why are there so many broken links and such across the wiki? Like the conjuration page for example. How did this happen? [[Special:Contributions/98.65.197.239|98.65.197.239]] 04:18, 16 August 2010 (UTC)<br />
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:Recently the wiki has crashed and changed servers and all kinds of stuff, and now a lot of things aren't working correctly. It's supposed to all be being looked at though. [[User:Jazzman831|Jazz]][[User talk:Jazzman831|Man]] 14:14, 16 August 2010 (UTC)<br />
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== My RfA ==<br />
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Recently I nominated myself for adminship on the wiki. I don't want to sound like I'm advertising my nomination, however it has been three days without any support or oppose comments. I am just trying to get at least a few people to take notice and comment. My nomination may be found [[Requests for Adminship/Vrail|here]]. Thanks. --[[User:Vrail|Vrail]] 11:16, 18 August 2010 (MDT)<br />
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== Half-Life Setting ==<br />
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Hey mate. It's Crysis2. I apologize for the lack of formatting with the Half-Life setting. I'm attempting to fix this now. Actually, when I started, I just put down descriptions from other websites. I am deleting them all and replacing them. Anyways, thanks for whipping it into shape. I appreciate it!<br />
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== Delete ==<br />
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Hey I noticed you put the delete template on the complete ninja handbook.... For 2.5e.... U said it is nothing but headers... That's because I havent had the time to work on filling it in..... [[User:Dj00345|Dj00345]] 16:42, 5 May 2011 (MDT)<br />
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:Well, that's why I put the delete template. Any page that isn't up to snuff is eligible for deletion... though realistically pages don't get deleted all that often. And really, if someone deleted the blank page, what have you really lost anyway? [[User:Jazzman831|Jazz]][[User talk:Jazzman831|Man]] 21:34, 5 May 2011 (MDT)<br />
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== Sandbox ==<br />
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hey... since i always see your name on the sandbox page in the miscellaneous section. i wanted to let you know... someone just edited above the double line again.... do you want me to remove it? [[User:Dj00345|Dj00345]] 17:33, 12 May 2011 (MDT)<br />
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:It's not really that big of a deal, it's just the sandbox. In fact, there's no rule that says only mods can clean it out, so if you ever want to then feel free! [[User:Jazzman831|Jazz]][[User talk:Jazzman831|Man]] 22:47, 12 May 2011 (MDT)<br />
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== Regarding your religious propaganda and page protections thereof ==<br />
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Don't try to spread religious propaganda, in the name of 'preventing someone from sneaking in ideological edits'.<br />
[http://www.dandwiki.com/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Archetyper&diff=prev&oldid=518180]<br />
This is a roleplaying site, not a soapbox to spread your abrahamic religion, protecting the pages so that no one can stop you, under the guise of 'preventing vandalism and bickering', and being vindictive enough to wikistalk a person who makes an edit that prevents such propaganda.<br />
[http://www.dandwiki.com/w/index.php?title=Adonai,_God_of_the_Hebrews_(3.5e_Deity)&diff=prev&oldid=518175]<br />
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[[User:Archetyper|Archetyper]] 19:45, 13 May 2011 (MDT)<br />
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:... Propaganda? Really? As you mentioned this is a roleplay site. If we are going to have deities related to actual religions we are going to keep them as broadly applicable as possible. Significantly more people will be offended at calling God "evil" than they will at calling him "good". If this bothers you, then find a religious wiki and discuss it there. As it is, we aim to offend the fewest number of people possible.<br />
:As for "wikistalking", please remember that I am a moderator, and it is my duty to help upkeep the site. If someone makes one edit that looks suspicious, ideological, trolling, or heck, even someone who forgets to categorize pages or messes up a template, it's my SOP to go through that person's contributions to ensure that they haven't done the same thing elsewhere. You tend to find that a person who does something one time has done it a few times before. If you have a problem with that, then well, I'm sorry. Perhaps the wiki format, with publicly-viewable edit histories, is not for you. [[User:Jazzman831|Jazz]][[User talk:Jazzman831|Man]] 20:29, 13 May 2011 (MDT)<br />
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::Your argument is clearly insincere, because the thing that would offend the least people would be to not include those two gods in this wiki at all. If the absence of religious propaganda bothers you, then find a religious wiki and post those two deities there. [[User:Archetyper|Archetyper]] 20:57, 13 May 2011 (MDT)<br />
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:::You seem to think I was the one who made those entries in the first place, or that I have some vested interest in keeping them on the site. Frankly, I don't care about them other than to attempt to keep the peace. It's been decided that deities based on real-life religions are allowable on this wiki, and frankly that doesn't offend all that many people, because we allow ''any'' deity. If a ''description'' of a deity seems like propaganda to you, then just don't read it. All homebrew content on this site is ''optional'', plain and simple. Like any other page on the wiki, if you want to make a radical edit (like flipping the alignment), discuss it on the talk page first. [[User:Jazzman831|Jazz]][[User talk:Jazzman831|Man]] 22:43, 13 May 2011 (MDT)<br />
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::::Catholic scripture considers the alignment of [[God, Christian Faith (3.5e Deity)|God, Christian Faith]] and [[Adonai (3.5e Deity)|Adonai]] good. These deities are based off scriptures and such a drastic change is outside of their bounds.<br />
::::Your character may believe what they believe. You may include this into your campaign as you see fit.<br />
::::People being offended on D&D Wiki, however, is important and things are in place to prevent offense. For example see also [[Meta Pages#Policies]]. The restriction of certain content has been decided to be irrelevant, so articles like [[God, Christian Faith (3.5e Deity)|God, Christian Faith]] and [[Adonai (3.5e Deity)|Adonai]] are not restricted. You mention that this leads to offense, however as the articles are for D&D they are intended to augment one's gameplay and not for other reasons. Your character may believe what they believe. You may include this into your campaign as you see fit.<br />
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::::Is correct. --[[User:Green Dragon|Green Dragon]] 21:36, 16 May 2011 (MDT)<br />
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==Jazzman, meet your boss==<br />
You don't ''quite'' know him yet, but you're getting close to it, I think. ~A Wiki Watcher<br />
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:Oh, no, I'm not naive. I've seen it before and I recognized it pretty quickly. Of course, on Conservapedia the motivation for craziness is pretty clear; here, not so much. [[User:Jazzman831|Jazz]][[User talk:Jazzman831|Man]] 17:23, 29 May 2011 (MDT)<br />
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== Patrolling edits ==<br />
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Hey, so I'm getting the hang of this Admin thing, with one exception. When you patrol edits, do you ever actually mark the page as patrolled? Should I be doing that? Should we be patrolling every edit, and marking them as such, or just the suspicious ones (by IPs, huge chunks taken out, etc)? Do pages one of us mark as patrolled show up as "patrolled" for the other? --[[User:Badger|Badger]] 14:29, 29 June 2011 (MDT)<br />
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:I think it's basically not used. Any edit that anyone but a select few people makes is considered "unpatrolled" (I think GD and BD are the only ones whose edits are not considered unpatrolled). In order to "patrol" an edit, you have to do it manually by clicking the patrol button when viewing the diff. In a perfect world, one of us should be looking over every edit and marking it as patrolled to signify to the others that it's not spam or vandalism, but in reality if everybody doesn't do it then it's a lot of (mostly wasted) work for the person who does do it. [[User:Jazzman831|Jazz]][[User talk:Jazzman831|Man]] 15:10, 29 June 2011 (MDT)<br />
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== All Hail Jay==<br />
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Jazz! What up bro. Still kickin' it old school, I see. Classy classy. You always aimed to impress. I like that. Listen, broski. Can you do ol' JayJay a favor. See, I've been itching to get my article 'Hybrid Elite Warrior' a perfect rating. 20 out of glorious 20. ...Ssspt. But? I can't do that without a perfect formatting score. ...Which? Up until this point. Was mostly my fault. I hadn't added an NPC to the page. Thus, imperfect. ... But now! Now, I have added it. Tada! Perfection ensues. Anyway! I was hoping you and your Admin buddies could drop by the page and give it some ratings. Ya know. Honest ratings and such. (But seriously I only need one 5/5 Formating Score to do the trick. Hehehe.) ... Yep. Long story short, if you could do that for ol' Uncle Jay. That would be great. Love ya buddy! Hugs and kisses. (Un-gay-like hugs and kisses, btw. Thats just gross.) ... Okay. Say hello to family for me. Adios my Mexican amigo! Keep it Realzzz! --[[User:Jay Freedman|Jay Freedman]] 02:25, 6 July 2011 (MDT)(PS: Vote for Jay Freedman as the King of the Universe. Okay bye.)<br />
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:Ha ha, you are crazy. I'll take a look at it. Though I must warn, I rarely give perfect ratings, so you might not want me to mess it up. [[User:Jazzman831|Jazz]][[User talk:Jazzman831|Man]] 13:11, 7 July 2011 (MDT)<br />
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::Haha. You totally messed it up. I was milking the system bro. And now! Look at it. You totally made it "bleh". Haha. I am never asking you for help again. You meany head. --[[User:Jay Freedman|Jay Freedman]] 19:31, 7 July 2011 (MDT) (I am a PageView scoundrel.)<br />
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== Gears of War CS ==<br />
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Alright, so I'm working my way through the candidates for deletion, and I've hit the GoW setting. I'm trying to save as much as possible from it, and that's making trouble for me. So, I'm here to ask your opinion. What I'm doing right now is deleting things that only relate to the setting, and re-labeling/moving content that ''could'' be used in other settings (creatures, equipment, etc). Should I bother? The only reason I'm asking you is because they'll all get dumped into d20M, which is your baby on this site (whether you like it or not). So, thoughts? --[[User:Badger|Badger]] 17:34, 23 August 2011 (MDT)<br />
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:Also, I'm not just dumping them into d20M because they have lasers and spaceships. I'm putting them in d20M because they already had the category d20M. I've read your userpage. ''':)''' --[[User:Badger|Badger]] 17:51, 23 August 2011 (MDT)<br />
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::I like to keep the creatures etc. if they can be used outside the setting, but that really depends on the quality. I'll look them over tomorrow and see what's what. And thanks for the consideration :) [[User:Jazzman831|Jazz]][[User talk:Jazzman831|Man]] 19:47, 23 August 2011 (MDT)<br />
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:::Er, maybe it's because I'm tired, but I don't know where any of the GoW content is did you already move it? If so, it's fine putting it there. Theoretically one of these days I'll feel productive and go over all of the d20M stuff anyway, so if there's anything that shouldn't be there I'll move/delete it then. As it is, I think I'm just about the only person in the world who uses the d20M stuff, so nobody will really notice... [[User:Jazzman831|Jazz]][[User talk:Jazzman831|Man]] 18:46, 26 August 2011 (MDT)<br />
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::::Yeah, it turns out it was only like two creatures and a few pieces of equipment (most of which already had d20M breadcrumbs). I guess consider this a heads up that there are a few more pages in d20M, and they might not be formatted properly. There's another d20M campaign setting or two in the deletion queue, so you may be getting a few more pages when I get around to passing judgement on them. --[[User:Badger|Badger]] 19:00, 26 August 2011 (MDT)<br />
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:::::Ok, good to know. For the most part, I think the ones up for deletion didn't have any content worth saving anyway. But you never know, sometimes I get grumpy and raise the bar a bit. [[User:Jazzman831|Jazz]][[User talk:Jazzman831|Man]] 19:20, 26 August 2011 (MDT)<br />
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::::::Well, what do you think about [[Commonwealth_Equipment_(Red_Faction_Supplement)|this]]? Someone clearly put a lot of work into writing out about 20 weapons, and as many pieces of armor. They're a mess of formatting, and I delete them as quick as anyone, but I'll just throw "d20M" and "wikify" on them, and let someone else make a page for each (if you think it'll ever actually happen). --[[User:Badger|Badger]] 20:31, 26 August 2011 (MDT)<br />
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== Warning policy rework ==<br />
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I'm working on an official warning policy that should more clearly illustrate the purposes of the system. The new policy can be found [[User:Badger/sandbox13|here]]. If you would contribute thoughts on the talk page, that would be most helpful. Thanks. --[[User:Badger|Badger]] 15:58, 4 September 2011 (MDT)<br />
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== Thanks ==<br />
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Thanks for telling me! your message finally taught me how to at least communicate. up until now that was my only way of communicating. Im just starting so please forgive my inability to communicate. tips on how to navigate this site would be nice and if this message goes awry its because in it Im just trying to copy everybody else. -- [[User:Loophole finder!|Loophole finder!]] 26 September 2011 (MDT)<br />
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:The best place to tell/ask someone about any changes you want to make on a page is on that page's "talk" page. If you look up at the bar at the top you will see tabs for "page", "discussion", "edit", "move", "history", and "watch". "Discussion" is what you want. You will also notice when you click on this that you have a new tab with a plus sign. Click this whenever you are starting a new topic and it will create a new section for you. In general, don't make edits like changing the CR by a factor of 10 without a really good explanation as to why that should be done. If you are doing it just for fun, it might be better to create an entirely new page, and make a variant of the original. [[User:Jazzman831|Jazz]][[User talk:Jazzman831|Man]] 18:55, 26 September 2011 (MDT)<br />
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:Thanks. I was doing it for communication mainly and partly because I thought that either Urgalz should be less powerful or Knasari more. I'm sorry for the vandalism and how do you create a page including decifering all the stuff "they" already have up there. [[User:Loophole finder!|Loophole finder!]]<br />
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::I'm not really sure what you mean, but it seems like you've already figured out how to make new creatures. Insanely overpowered, ridiculous new creatures... [[User:Jazzman831|Jazz]][[User talk:Jazzman831|Man]] 09:04, 28 September 2011 (MDT)<br />
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:::yeah. I know. but, I'd rather test out whether or not I'm able to do anything overpowered creatures since I'm almost surely going to delete them soon after anyway. that is if there deletable. I should have thought of that. are they? anyway what I meant was when you decide to make a new class the page has all this "stuff" in a "language" that I never learned. where would I find say templates and or instructions to making reasonable races and classes? [[User:Loophole finder!|Loophole finder!]]<br />
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::::Well don't go making anything that you *want* to get deleted; all that does is just muck up the wiki. If you want a space to test out some stuff try a subpage of your userpage, for instance [[User:Loophole finder!/sandbox]]. Click that link and edit that page there, and it will be out of the main wiki. As for the "language", it's mostly explained. Just be sure to read anything placed in "comments" tags. <nowiki><!-- Comments look like these.--></nowiki> In general, replace them (including the arrows) with whatever the text tells you to replace it with. When you create a new page there's usually also some instructions in the edit window (the first time you create it, but not after you've saved it), or hidden in comment tags somewhere (which you can see while editing). If you are still having problems, compare what you are doing to page that's already been completed. Click "edit" to see the code on that page, and then compare to what displays on the page; you should pretty quickly understand how it all works. If you still have specific questions, then let me know. Wikis tend to take a little while to get used to, but as long as you stay slow and don't try to do everything at once it's not too bad. [[User:Jazzman831|Jazz]][[User talk:Jazzman831|Man]] 20:36, 28 September 2011 (MDT)<br />
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:::::Thanks for the info. you make it sound like they can but I've looked and I can't find it so I'm guessing only admin can. if you can it'd be a big favor and I'd be in your debt. even though I haven't really done anything to deserve it I really would like it. [[User:Loophole finder!|Loophole finder!]]<br />
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::::::I'm not really sure what it is you're asking me to do, but there's nothing I've told you about that can only be done by an admin. [[User:Jazzman831|Jazz]][[User talk:Jazzman831|Man]] 15:00, 1 October 2011 (MDT)<br />
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==Please remove all my material from this wiki==<br />
I asked Green Dragon but he refuses. I would like all pages created by me to be deleted from this wiki. The reasons are personal and nobody's business but my own. Thank you for your cooperation. --<span style="font-size:90%;">[[User:ScryersEve|<span title="User page of Scryer's Eve"><span style="color:#006565;">Scryer's</span> <span style="color:#db6700;">Eve</span></span>]] <sup>([[User_talk:ScryersEve|<span style="color:#0053BF!important;" title="Talk page of Scryer's Eve">talk</span>]] | <span title="Contributions of Scryer's Eve">[[Special:Contributions/ScryersEve|<span style="small-caps;color:#0053BF!important;" title="Contributions of Scryer's Eve">contribs</span>]])</span></sup> 15:59, 26 March 2012 (MDT)</div>ScryersEvehttps://www.dandwiki.com/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Dmilewski&diff=556773User talk:Dmilewski2012-03-26T21:58:47Z<p>ScryersEve: </p>
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== Your NPC Classes and NPC's ==<br />
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Recently I made the page [[User NPC Classes with Descriptions]], making each NPC Class need not only in the right category, but also added to this page. As I was looking over your recent NPC Class contributions I noticed none of them were on this page, and I decided you would rather add them [[User NPC Classes with Descriptions]] than have me do it. So, all your new NPC classes should be added to this page. Also, each NPC you make should be added to [[3.5e NPCs]] as it has not been converted over to the new method of just using categories for organisation. Thanks so much, and I also hope you NPC Classes are in the right categories ([[:Category:Combat-Focused]], [[:Category:Bad Guy]], [[:Category:Good Guy]], [[:Category:Strong Spellcasting]], where applicable.). Thanks. --[[User:Green Dragon|Green Dragon]] 18:51, 12 November 2006 (MST)<br />
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== Rating the PrC's ==<br />
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D&D Wiki has quite a bit of Prestige Classes, with only two having been rated on D&D Wiki's rating scale. So, on a small mission to try to get ratings of PrC's done, I would like you to help. All you would have to do is go to [[DnD Classes]] then to any PrC page. Click on the PrC you would like to rate; then rate its balance by clicking on the "here" in the ''Please, help D&D Wiki by rating the balance of this item '''here'''''. I hope you can take the time to help D&D Wiki become a useful tool for every visitor that comes here; and thanks in advance. --[[User:Green Dragon|Green Dragon]] 22:29, 29 November 2006 (MST)<br />
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== SRD Editing Only ==<br />
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Hello. Recently, I was thinking that it might be a good idea to make a new level of power on D&D Wiki. Above ''Sysop'' would be something like ''SRD Editor'', and this would include the people that understand the SRD well enough to make changes without violating copyrights, etc. The 3 (possible 4...) people that would be in this group would be Me, You, and Sledged (Possibly Blue Dragon if he wants to be part of this group). Is this a good idea, or not? --[[User:Green Dragon|Green Dragon]] 22:54, 11 December 2006 (MST)<br />
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:Let me think about that. My gut says that it should be a separate editorship from admin. From SRD editorship, you get the ability to edit the SRD (but not move pags). From Admin, you get the ability to move pages. <br />
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::The reason I am saying this is because I would not (to be brutally honest) trust Pz.Az.0Maus, editing the SRD in any way. People like that, that for some reason become admins (I know, I know, my fault), seem not to understand the problems with wierd edits to the SRD. Just to give my reasons for this idea... --[[User:Green Dragon|Green Dragon]] 19:16, 12 December 2006 (MST)<br />
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:::Protecting the SRD is good. So is getting help with it. In that, I'm conflicted. Run the thought past the other folks. We'll see if there's a consensus. --[[User:Dmilewski|Dmilewski]] 20:20, 12 December 2006 (MST)<br />
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::::Okay, I will after the adminship candidates are over. --[[User:Green Dragon|Green Dragon]] 21:19, 12 December 2006 (MST)<br />
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== Mithral Shirt ==<br />
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The cost for a [[Mithral Shirt (SRD Magic Armor)|mithral shirt]] and the cost for a [[Chain Shirt (SRD Armor)|chain shirt]] with the mithral enhancement do not match. &mdash;[[User:Sledged|Sledged]] 23:21, 22 December 2006 (MST)<br />
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:All that math needs checking. I'll put that on my to-do list. If you see any numbers that a wrong, please just correct and post errata on the discussion page. If you see a pattern of mistakes, you can fix the pattern (and alert me to the mistake), or just bop the error over to me. --[[User:Dmilewski|Dmilewski]] 11:03, 23 December 2006 (MST)<br />
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== Weapon Description Pages ==<br />
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So I've been working on a layout to include more size-related information on the weapon description pages, and this is what I have so far (the base weapon is the [[Gauntlet (SRD Weapon)|gauntlet]]):<br />
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{| class="d20"<br />
|-<br />
| colspan="4" style="border: none;" |<br />
{| class="d20 dragon monstats"<br />
|-<br />
! Critical:<br />
| x2<br />
|-<br />
! Range Increment:<br />
| —<br />
|-<br />
! Type:<br />
| Bludgeoning<br />
|}<br />
|-<br />
! Size || Cost || Damage || Weight<br />
|-<br />
| Fine || * || &mdash; || 1/16 lb.<br />
|- class="even"<br />
| Diminuative || * || &mdash; || 1/8 lb.<br />
|-<br />
| Tiny || * || 1 || 1/4 lb.<br />
|- class="even"<br />
| Small || 2 gp || 1d2 || 1/2 lb.<br />
|-<br />
| Medium || 2 gp || 1d3 || 1 lb.<br />
|- class="even"<br />
| Large || 4 gp || 1d4 || 2 lbs.<br />
|-<br />
| Huge || * || 1d6 || 4 lbs.<br />
|- class="even"<br />
| Gargantuan || * || 1d8 || 8 lbs.<br />
|-<br />
| Collossal || * || 2d6 || 16 lbs.<br />
|-<br />
| colspan="4" | <small>* The SRD gives neither this value nor a means to determine it.</small><br />
|}<br />
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What do you think? I'm considering making it into a template for user submitted weapons. &mdash;[[User:Sledged|Sledged]] 13:24, 28 December 2006 (MST)<br />
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:Terrific. I was going to ask you to make a template. No need! Here's a few things that we could do: <br />
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:{| class="d20"<br />
|-<br />
! align="left" | Weapon !! Cost !! Damage !! align="left" | Enhancement !! Cost !! align="left" | Benefit <br />
|-<br />
| align="left" | Small || 1 cp || 1d2 || align="left" | Alchemical Silver || 10 gp || align="left" | -1 damage, weapon is silvered<br />
|-<br />
| align="left" | Medium || 2 cp || 1d3 || align="left" | Darkwood || 15 gp || align="left" | halve weight<br />
|}<br />
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:Alternatively, we could put enhancements on a different table (with more appropriate formatting than this). <br />
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:{| class="d20" style="text-align: left"<br />
|-<br />
! !! Small !! Medium !! Large !! Benefit<br />
|-<br />
| Adamantine || 2 gp || 8 gp || 30 gp || Ignore DR<br />
|-<br />
| Mithril || 1 gp || 5 gp || 10 gp || Halve weight<br />
|-<br />
| +1 || 2,000 gp || 2,001 gp || 2005 gp || +1 to hit and damage<br />
|}<br />
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:--[[User:Dmilewski|Dmilewski]] 14:24, 28 December 2006 (MST)<br />
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::How about this:<br />
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::{| class="d20" style="white-space: nowrap;"<br />
|+ Enhancement Costs<br />
|-<br />
! || Steel || [[Adamantine (SRD Term)|Adamantine]] || [[Alchemical Silver (SRD Term)|Alchemical Silver]] || [[Cold Iron (SRD Term)|Cold Iron]] || [[Crystal, Deep (SRD Term)|Crystal, Deep]] || [[Crystal, Mundane (SRD Term)|Crystal, Mundane]] || [[Mithral (SRD Term)|Mithral]]<br />
|-<br />
| Average || 2 gp || &mdash; || 22 gp || 4 gp || &mdash; || &mdash; || &mdash;<br />
|- class="even"<br />
| Masterwork || 302 gp || 3,002 gp || 322 gp || 304 gp || 1,002 gp || 302 gp || 502 gp<br />
|-<br />
| +1 || 2,302 gp || 5,002 gp || 2,322 gp || 4,304 gp || 3,002 gp || 2,302 gp || 2,502 gp<br />
|- class="even"<br />
| +2 || 8,302 gp || 11,002 gp || 8,322 gp || 10,304 gp || 9,002 gp || 8,302 gp || 8,502 gp<br />
|-<br />
| +3 || 18,302 gp || 21,002 gp || 18,322 gp || 20,304 gp || 19,002 gp || 18,302 gp || 18,502 gp<br />
|- class="even"<br />
| +4 || 32,302 gp || 35,002 gp || 32,322 gp || 34,304 gp || 33,002 gp || 32,302 gp || 32,502 gp<br />
|-<br />
| +5 || 50,302 gp || 53,002 gp || 50,322 gp || 52,304 gp || 51,002 gp || 50,302 gp || 50,502 gp<br />
|- class="even"<br />
| +6* || 72,302 gp<br/>(720,302 gp) || 75,002 gp<br/>(723,002 gp) || 72,322 gp<br/>(720,322 gp) || 74,304 gp<br/>(722,304 gp) || 73,002 gp<br/>(721,002 gp) || 72,302 gp<br/>(720,302 gp) || 72,502 gp<br/>(720,502 gp)<br />
|-<br />
| +7* || 98,302 gp<br/>(980,302 gp) || 101,002 gp<br/>(983,002 gp) || 98,322 gp<br/>(980,322 gp) || 100,304 gp<br/>(982,304 gp) || 99,002 gp<br/>(981,002 gp) || 98,302 gp<br/>(980,302 gp) || 98,502 gp<br/>(980,502 gp)<br />
|- class="even"<br />
| +8* || 128,302 gp<br/>(1,280,302 gp) || 131,002 gp<br/>(1,283,002 gp) || 128,322 gp<br/>(1,280,322 gp) || 130,304 gp<br/>(1,282,304 gp) || 129,002 gp<br/>(1,281,002 gp) || 128,302 gp<br/>(1,280,302 gp) || 128,502 gp<br/>(1,280,502 gp)<br />
|-<br />
| +9* || 162,302 gp<br/>(1,620,302 gp) || 165,002 gp<br/>(1,623,002 gp) || 162,322 gp<br/>(1,620,322 gp) || 164,304 gp<br/>(1,622,304 gp) || 163,002 gp<br/>(1,621,002 gp) || 162,302 gp<br/>(1,620,302 gp) || 162,502 gp<br/>(1,620,502 gp)<br />
|- class="even"<br />
| +10* || 200,302 gp<br/>(2,000,302 gp) || 203,002 gp<br/>(2,003,002 gp) || 200,322 gp<br/>(2,000,322 gp) || 202,304 gp<br/>(2,002,304 gp) || 201,002 gp<br/>(2,001,002 gp) || 200,302 gp<br/>(2,000,302 gp) || 200,502 gp<br/>(2,000,502 gp)<br />
|-<br />
| +11 or more || square of the<br/>bonus x20,000 gp<br/>+ 302 gp || square of the<br/>bonus x20,000 gp<br/>+ 3,002 gp || square of the<br/>bonus x20,000 gp<br/>+ 322 gp || square of the<br/>bonus x20,000 gp<br/>+ 2,304 gp || square of the<br/>bonus x20,000 gp<br/>+ 1,002 gp || square of the<br/>bonus x20,000 gp<br/>+ 302 gp || square of the<br/>bonus x20,000 gp<br/>+ 502 gp<br />
|-<br />
| colspan="9" style="text-align: left;" | * <small>If weapon has a magical bonus greater than +5 or a special ability worth more than +5, the weapon has the epic market price given in parenthesis.</small><br />
|}<br />
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:: Note that darkwood is missing since it doesn't apply to the gauntlet. Also the header "Steel" will change depending on the weapon (e.g. "Wood" for a club, and "Steel/Wood" for an arrow). &mdash;[[User:Sledged|Sledged]] 21:23, 28 December 2006 (MST)<br />
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:::Wow... that's... totally intimidating and overwhelming. No offense. That table makes my brain melt. (However, that's GREAT for a master enchantment chart. I will steal that for the SRD.) <br />
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:::So now, which data do we want to eliminate? When I first did that section in the SRD, I chose to list the most common prices. What if we just list the special materials costs for Standard and Masterwork, then included an enchantment guide below that? (Our readers can do the simple addition in their heads.) You also want to include darkwood, as negative information is information. (It then becomes clear that Darkwood is not there on purpose.) The result is far cleaner and less overwhelming, but contains the same information. The "'''magic'''" section needs to look better than I have it. <br />
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:::{| class="d20"<br />
|-<br />
|+Gauntlet Enhancements<br />
|-<br />
! align="left" | Material !! Average !! [[SRD:Masterwork Weapons|Masterwork]]<sup>1</sup> !! align="left" | Special<br />
|-<br />
| align="left" | Steel || 2 gp || 302 gp || align="left" | —<br />
|- class="even"<br />
| align="left" | [[Adamantine (SRD Term)|Adamantine]] || — || 3,002 gp || align="left" | Bypass DR<br />
|-<br />
| align="left" | [[Alchemical Silver (SRD Term)|Alchemical Silver]] || 22 gp || 322 gp || align="left" | -1 damage<br />
|- class="even"<br />
| align="left" | [[Cold Iron (SRD Term)|Cold Iron]] || 4 gp || 304 gp || align="left" | If enchanted, costs additional 2,000 gp.<br />
|-<br />
| align="left" | [[Darkwood (SRD Term)|Darkwood]] || n/a || n/a || align="left" | 1/2 weight<br />
|-class="even"<br />
| align="left" | [[Crystal, Deep (SRD Term)|Crystal, Deep]] || — || 1,002 gp || align="left" | Psionic<br />
|- <br />
| align="left" | [[Crystal, Mundane (SRD Term)|Crystal, Mundane]] || — || 302 || align="left" | No rusting, not metal<br />
|- class="even"<br />
| align="left" | [[Mithral (SRD Term)|Mithral]] || — || 502 gp || align="left" | 1/2 weight<br />
|-<br />
| colspan="2" align="left" |<br />
'''[[Magic Items: Weapons (SRD Rules)|Magic]] or [[Psionic Items: Weapons (SRD Rules)|Psionic]]'''<BR><br />
+1 adds 2,000 gp<BR><br />
+2 adds 8,000 gp<BR><br />
+3 adds 18,000 gp<BR><br />
+4 adds 32,000 gp<BR><br />
+5 adds 50,000 gp<br />
| colspan="2" align="left" |<br />
<BR><br />
+6 adds 72,000 gp<sup>2</sup><BR><br />
+7 adds 98,000 gp<sup>2</sup><BR><br />
+8 adds 128,000 gp<sup>2</sup><BR><br />
+9 adds 162,000 gp<sup>2</sup><BR><br />
+10 adds 200,000 gp<sup>2</sup><br />
|-<br />
| colspan="4" align="left" | <br />
# Wielding a masterwork weapon provides a +1 enhancement bonus on attack rolls.<BR><br />
# If weapon has a magical bonus greater than +5 or a special ability<BR>worth more than +5, the weapon is epic. Multiply magic cost by 10.<br />
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|}<br />
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::::I suppose my table is a bit over the top. Your table looks good, though. Cleaning up the layout for the magic bonuses won't be too difficult. One thing I hadn't considered is that some weapons can be composed of both darkwood and a special metal or crystal, such as an arrow. Also, do you want to include hardness and hit points? &mdash;[[User:Sledged|Sledged]] 11:31, 29 December 2006 (MST)<br />
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:::::Saying "no" to complication can be hard. Hardness and hitpoints should be worth it. (Nobody ever remembers that stuff, so having the reference helps.) Compound items cross into the "overly complicated" realm. That's lots of work for little payback. We should simplify double-weapons into double-weapons with both heads having the same material or the same enchantment, then put a note at the bottom that says as much. (People don't read the fine print about double-weapons, so we should just price them out correctly for being full doubles.) Since most materials don't affect hardness and hitpoints, I think that those numbers belong up with damage/weight/crit block. --[[User:Dmilewski|Dmilewski]] 11:54, 29 December 2006 (MST)<br />
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::::::Here's what I have so far. I couldn't find a layout that looked good for the magical/psionic enhancements to be in the same table as the material enhancements, so I put them in their own table.<br />
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::::::The SRD doesn't explicitly give the hps for a gauntlet nor a direct means of figuring it out. My best guess is that it'd be about the same as a light blade.<br />
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::::::The SRD also doesn't say whether or not extra cost for magical cold iron weapons applies to psionic weapons, so I just said "magical," and left it up to the DM to decide whether or not to extend it (which may or may not have been WotC's intent).<br />
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::::::{| class="d20"<br />
|-<br />
| colspan="4" style="border: none;" |<br />
::::::{| class="d20 dragon monstats"<br />
|-<br />
! Critical:<br />
| x2<br />
|-<br />
! Range Increment:<br />
| —<br />
|-<br />
! Type:<br />
| Bludgeoning<br />
|-<br />
! Hardness:<br />
| 10<br />
|}<br />
|-<br />
! Size || Cost || Damage || Weight || hp<br />
|-<br />
| Fine || * || &mdash; || 1/16 lb. ||<br />
|- class="even"<br />
| Diminuative || * || &mdash; || 1/8 lb. ||<br />
|-<br />
| Tiny || * || 1 || 1/4 lb. ||<br />
|- class="even"<br />
| Small || 2 gp || 1d2 || 1/2 lb. ||<br />
|-<br />
| Medium || 2 gp || 1d3 || 1 lb. ||<br />
|- class="even"<br />
| Large || 4 gp || 1d4 || 2 lbs. ||<br />
|-<br />
| Huge || * || 1d6 || 4 lbs. ||<br />
|- class="even"<br />
| Gargantuan || * || 1d8 || 8 lbs. ||<br />
|-<br />
| Collossal || * || 2d6 || 16 lbs. ||<br />
|-<br />
| colspan="5" | <small>* The SRD gives neither this value nor a means to determine it.</small><br />
|}<br />
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::::::{| class="d20"<br />
|+ Gauntlet Material Enhancements<br />
|-<br />
! style="text-align: left;" | Material !! Average !! [[SRD:Masterwork Weapons|Masterwork]]<sup>1</sup> || Hardness || hp !! style="text-align: left;" | Special<br />
|-<br />
| style="text-align: left;" | Steel || 2 gp || 302 gp || 10 || || style="text-align: left;" | —<br />
|- class="even"<br />
| style="text-align: left;" | [[Adamantine (SRD Term)|Adamantine]] || — || 3,002 gp || 20 || || style="text-align: left;" | Bypass hardness less than 20<br />
|-<br />
| style="text-align: left;" | [[Alchemical Silver (SRD Term)|Alchemical Silver]] || 22 gp || 322 gp || 8 || || style="text-align: left;" | -1 damage<br />
|- class="even"<br />
| style="text-align: left;" | [[Cold Iron (SRD Term)|Cold Iron]] || 4 gp || 304 gp || 10 || || style="text-align: left;" | Magical enchantments cost an additional 2,000 gp.<br />
|-<br />
| style="text-align: left;" | [[Darkwood (SRD Term)|Darkwood]] || n/a || n/a || 5 || n/a || style="text-align: left;" | 1/2 weight<br />
|-class="even"<br />
| style="text-align: left;" | [[Crystal, Deep (SRD Term)|Crystal, Deep]] || — || 1,002 gp || 10 || || style="text-align: left;" | Psionic<br />
|- <br />
| style="text-align: left;" | [[Crystal, Mundane (SRD Term)|Crystal, Mundane]] || — || 302 gp || 8 || || style="text-align: left;" | No rusting, not metal<br />
|- class="even"<br />
| style="text-align: left;" | [[Mithral (SRD Term)|Mithral]] || — || 502 gp || 15 || || style="text-align: left;" | 1/2 weight<br />
|-<br />
| colspan="6" style="text-align: left; font-size: smaller;" | <br />
# Masterwork weapons have a +1 enhancement bonus on attack rolls.<br />
|}<br />
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::::::{| class="d20"<br />
|+ Gauntlet [[Magic Items: Weapons (SRD Rules)|Magical]]/[[Psionic Items: Weapons (SRD Rules)|Psionic]] Enhancements<br />
|-<br />
! Bonus Value !! Additional Cost<sup>1</sup> || Hardness Increase<sup>2</sup> || Additional hp<sup>2</sup><br />
|-<br />
| +1 || +2,000 gp || +2 || +10<br />
|- class="even"<br />
| +2 || +8,000 gp || +4 || +20<br />
|-<br />
| +3 || +18,000 gp || +6 || +30<br />
|- class="even"<br />
| +4 || +32,000 gp || +8 || +40<br />
|-<br />
| +5 || +50,000 gp || +10 || +50<br />
|- class="even"<br />
| +6 || +72,000 gp<sup>3</sup> || +12 || +60<br />
|-<br />
| +7 || +98,000 gp<sup>3</sup> || +14 || +70<br />
|- class="even"<br />
| +8 || +128,000 gp<sup>3</sup> || +16 || +80<br />
|-<br />
| +9 || +162,000 gp<sup>3</sup> || +18 || +90<br />
|- class="even"<br />
| +10 || +200,000 gp<sup>3</sup> || +20 || +100<br />
|-<br />
| +11 or more || + bonus x bonus<br/>x 20,000 gp || + enhancement bonus x 2 || + enhancement bonus x 10<br />
|-<br />
| colspan="4" style="text-align: left; font-size: smaller;" |<br />
# Increase total cost for magical enhancement by 2,000 gp for [[Cold Iron (SRD Term)|cold iron]] weapons.<br />
# Unlike the additional cost, the increase the weapon's hardness and hit points are only gained from the weapon's bonus, not its special abilities.<br />
# If weapon has a magical bonus greater than +5 or a special ability worth more than +5, the weapon is epic. Multiply magic cost by 10.<br />
|}<br />
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::::::&mdash;[[User:Sledged|Sledged]] 20:06, 29 December 2006 (MST)<br />
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:::::::That's an astounding amount of data per weapon. I am honestly SHOCKED how much data is connected to a single weapon. I like this layout well enough to run with it. --[[User:Dmilewski|Dmilewski]] 21:00, 29 December 2006 (MST)<br />
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::::::::That's D&D for you. It gets more complex with each edition. &mdash;[[User:Sledged|Sledged]] 22:06, 29 December 2006 (MST)<br />
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== The Tireless Contributor Barnstar ==<br />
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Recently you passed 20,000 edits (375 edits ago) on D&D Wiki, the most of any D&D Wikian! Congratulations! So, for achieving this enormous task I give you The Tireless Contributor Barnstar. Thanks for helping with everything you have.<br />
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{{The Tireless Contributor Barnstar|I give you The Tireless Contributor Barnstar for reaching 20,000 edits, with every one of these edits being very worthwhile and very helpful. Every single one of these edits has helped make D&D Wiki what it is, thanks. --[[User:Green Dragon|Green Dragon]] 01:23, 31 December 2006 (MST)}}<br />
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== MSRD ==<br />
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Are you going to add the MSRD to D&D Wiki? If so, thanks in advance, it's been a long time in coming. --[[User:Green Dragon|Green Dragon]] 22:07, 31 December 2006 (MST)<br />
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== Email? ==<br />
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Hello Dmilewski, I was wondering if you had received an email from me recently. Thanks, --[[User:Blue Dragon|Blue Dragon]] 15:40, 2 January 2007 (MST)<br />
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:Yup. Edited my home page a bit. --[[User:Dmilewski|Dmilewski]] 16:21, 2 January 2007 (MST)<br />
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== Edits on [[Villainous Abilities (DnD Rules)]] ==<br />
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Recently IP 69.148.22.216 edited [[Villainous Abilities (DnD Rules)]]. Because you do not have a static IP address I am not sure if this is you. However, I am just alerting you so you know it was edited. Thanks. --[[User:Green Dragon|Green Dragon]] 14:41, 3 January 2007 (MST)<br />
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== Rating the [[Staffmage (DnD Prestige Class)|Staffmage]] ==<br />
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Hello. I was just wondering if you would mind rating the [[Staffmage (DnD Prestige Class)|Staffmage]] I just recently edited. All I want to see is how balanced I made it... If you could do this I would be very happy, thanks. --[[User:Green Dragon|Green Dragon]] 22:52, 4 January 2007 (MST)<br />
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:Another question, would you mind rating the [[Ghost Monk (DnD Prestige Class)|Ghost Monk]]? --[[User:Green Dragon|Green Dragon]] 23:50, 10 January 2007 (MST)<br />
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== Wikipedia ==<br />
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Recently you linked to many Wikipedia articles via SRD monsters. So, do you think it would be appropriate to have the Wikipedia article link to D&D Wiki's SRD Monster (also giving D&D Wiki more visitors)? --[[User:Green Dragon|Green Dragon]] 17:33, 13 January 2007 (MST)<br />
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:I think it is perfectly appropriate. --[[User:Dmilewski|Dmilewski]] 19:09, 13 January 2007 (MST)<br />
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::Okay. --[[User:Green Dragon|Green Dragon]] 00:54, 14 January 2007 (MST)<br />
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== Environment Section... Where? ==<br />
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Where is the environment section of [http://www.wizards.com/d20/files/v35/WildernessandEnvironment.rtf "Wilderness, Weather, & Environment"] in the [[System Reference Document|SRD]]? &mdash;[[User:Sledged|Sledged]] 16:51, 17 January 2007 (MST)<br />
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:Missing. I'll have to restore this.--[[User:Dmilewski|Dmilewski]] 18:39, 17 January 2007 (MST)<br />
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== Working Mans BarnStar ==<br />
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{{The Working Man's Barnstar|Dmilewski added the ''entire'' MSRD to D&D Wiki and for doing this I give him this Barnstar. Adding the MSRD was a huge job, and Dmilewki cannot be congratulated enough. Thanks. --[[User:Green Dragon|Green Dragon]] 22:24, 25 January 2007 (MST)}}<br />
So, I give you this [[Template:The Working Man's Barnstar]] for adding the MSRD. --[[User:Green Dragon|Green Dragon]] 22:24, 25 January 2007 (MST)<br />
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== Feat Descriptors ==<br />
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So I was browsing through the feats, and I noticed that the way the categories are assigned, there's no way to view all the feats&mdash;and only those feats&mdash;with a specific descriptor. If I'm trying to put together a [[Psion (SRD Class)|psion]] and I'm trying to select my psion bonus feat&mdash;which has to be either psionic, metapsionic, or psionic item creation&mdash;and I go to [[SRD:Psionic Feats]], I have to filter through feats like [[Antipsionic Magic (SRD Feat)|Antipsionic Magic]] and [[Autonomous (SRD Feat)|Autonomous]] which are related to psionics but aren't psionic feats in that they lack the [Psionic] descriptor.<br />
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I suggest having category pages specifically for feat descriptors:<br />
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* Category:Divine (Feat Descriptor)<br />
* Category:Epic (Feat Descriptor)<br />
* Category:General (Feat Descriptor)<br />
* Category:Item Creation (Feat Descriptor)<br />
* Category:Metamagic (Feat Descriptor)<br />
* Category:Metapsionic (Feat Descriptor)<br />
* Category:Psionic (Feat Descriptor)<br />
* Category:Special (Feat Descriptor)<br />
* Category:Wild (Feat Descriptor)<br />
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And these descriptors would be assigned to the SRD category. Additionally, we could have more categories for user-contributed feats that have descriptors introduced by WotC products, but aren't part of the SRD:<br />
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* Category:Exalted (Feat Descriptor)<br />
* Category:Metabreath (Feat Descriptor)<br />
* Category:Monstrous (Feat Descriptor)<br />
* Category:Vile (Feat Descriptor)<br />
* Category:Tactical (Feat Descriptor)<br />
* etc...<br />
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&mdash;[[User:Sledged|Sledged]] 12:25, 30 January 2007 (MST)<br />
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:The feats have been needing a review. Thanks for asking the question. <br />
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:If I am interpreting you correctly, I presume that the category would be <nowiki>[[Category:Wild (Feat Descriptor)]]</nowiki>? --[[User:Dmilewski|Dmilewski]] 13:17, 30 January 2007 (MST)<br />
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::Yup, that's it. &mdash;[[User:Sledged|Sledged]] 14:03, 30 January 2007 (MST)<br />
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:::I think that appending "Feat" would work sufficiently well. Example: Category: Wild Feat. I had a similar problem with "light", leading to Category:Light Armor and Category:Light Weapon. ("Light" is its own PITA category.) This is a bit more self-explanatory and easier to remember. --[[User:Dmilewski|Dmilewski]] 14:27, 30 January 2007 (MST)<br />
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::::Got the categories made and populated:<br />
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::::* [[:Category:Divine Feat]]<br />
::::* [[:Category:Epic Feat]]<br />
::::* [[:Category:General Feat]]<br />
::::* [[:Category:Item Creation Feat]]<br />
::::* [[:Category:Metamagic Feat]]<br />
::::* [[:Category:Metapsionic Feat]]<br />
::::* [[:Category:Psionic Feat]]<br />
::::* [[:Category:Special Feat]]<br />
::::* [[:Category:Wild Feat]]<br />
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::::and three demo pages for the feats and rules:<br />
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::::* [[Feats Overview (SRD Rules Evaluation)]]<br />
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::::Whatcha' think? &mdash;&mdash;[[User:Sledged|Sledged]] ([[User talk:Sledged|talk]]) 13:14, 3 February 2007 (MST)<br />
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:::::Smooth. Looks great! --[[User:Dmilewski|Dmilewski]] 13:41, 3 February 2007 (MST)<br />
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::::::Now all that needs to be done is to make [[DnD Feats]] work with the same categories... The SRD and the Homebrew items should be working together to help campaigns, they should not be separated and divided. Would you like me to help with the [[DnD Feats|DnD Feats's]] category changes? --[[User:Green Dragon|Green Dragon]] 14:22, 3 February 2007 (MST)<br />
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:::::::Is [[Ability Surge (DnD General Feat)]] the kind of categories were aiming for? --[[User:Green Dragon|Green Dragon]] 15:20, 3 February 2007 (MST)<br />
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::::::::Yup. That's it. If we add all the user feats, we'll need to create more categories. We'll need a category for each descriptor. &mdash;[[User:Sledged|Sledged]] ([[User talk:Sledged|talk]]) 09:56, 4 February 2007 (MST)<br />
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:::::::::And we would have to re-organize [[DnD Feats]]. --[[User:Green Dragon|Green Dragon]] 18:38, 4 February 2007 (MST)<br />
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== SRD Namespace ==<br />
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How would you feel about asking [[User:Blue Dragon|Blue Dragon]] to create a custom namespace for the SRD? I've been finding that as more and more articles get added to the wiki, it's getting harder and harder to search for specifics within the core rules. If the SRD had it's own namespace, searches could be limited to just that namespace. &mdash;[[User:Sledged|Sledged]] ([[User talk:Sledged|talk]]) 13:40, 6 February 2007 (MST)<br />
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:Great minds think alike. I've been thinking about that. We can do a single OGL namespace, an SRD namespace, or SRD and MSRD. I'm not sure which would work best. I'm currently leaning towards the namespaces called SRD and MSRD. (This makes it easy for folks to check the proper namespace when searching for something specific and to search each reference document separately.) Wade in with any implementation suggestions or improvement. --[[User:Dmilewski|Dmilewski]] 14:59, 6 February 2007 (MST)<br />
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::I say just stick with SRD and MSRD namespaces. If more publishings are added, such as the OGC from [http://www.wizards.com/default.asp?x=products/dndacc/881560000 Unearthed Arcana] (which [[User:Cuthalion|Cúthalion]] expressed a willingness to do [[Category talk:Base Classes (SRD)|here]]), namespaces can be added for them, as well. &mdash;[[User:Sledged|Sledged]] ([[User talk:Sledged|talk]]) 16:54, 6 February 2007 (MST)<br />
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:::Great. Will you drop the note to BD?--[[User:Dmilewski|Dmilewski]] 17:55, 6 February 2007 (MST)<br />
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::::It's not going to happen, I think. Edit counts do not get carried over between different namespaces with the current version of MediaWiki their are more problems. If one wants to search through all of the namespaces, they cannot, they would have to go individually, etc. This has already been partially tried with the D20M section, and it never got off its feet. I don't think this is the best idea, however if you are worried about the ease of search I am sure I could ask Blue Dragon to make an extension (or something) that would make it so only "SRD Rules" "Just MSRD" or "Just SRD" search options exist. What are your opinions about a more customized search and not so much of splitting this site apart? --[[User:Green Dragon|Green Dragon]] 12:53, 7 February 2007 (MST)<br />
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:::::I'm not talking about splitting the site. What I'm talking about is having "SRD:" appended to the title of every SRD page (though it's a bit more complicated than that), the same way that all the template titles begin with "Template:", category titles being with "Category:", and so on. So that when you do a <span class="plainlinks">[http://www.dandwiki.com/wiki/Special:Search?search=simple+search&fulltext=Search simple search]</span>, you can just select the checkboxes at the bottom of the search page for which namespaces to which you want to limit the search. &mdash;[[User:Sledged|Sledged]] ([[User talk:Sledged|talk]]) 13:26, 7 February 2007 (MST)<br />
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::::::Namespaces will do exactly what Sledged is talking about. Green Dragon is talking about splitting the site into four different sections, but a custom namespace would be perfectly acceptable. These namespaces have now been added. --[[User:Blue Dragon|Blue Dragon]] 15:58, 7 February 2007 (MST)<br />
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:::::::Now to move all 3,514 pages. &mdash;[[User:Sledged|Sledged]] ([[User talk:Sledged|talk]]) 16:34, 7 February 2007 (MST)<br />
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::::::::I will move them all, don't feel pressured. --[[User:Green Dragon|Green Dragon]] 16:51, 7 February 2007 (MST)<br />
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:::::::::I was gonna say break into managable chunks. It's the feats, spells, and FXs that'll be the time consumers. Also, I think since they will all have the (M)SRD namespace, the "SRD" in suffix of the titles could be removed. &mdash;[[User:Sledged|Sledged]] ([[User talk:Sledged|talk]]) 17:36, 7 February 2007 (MST)<br />
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::::::::::That should be scriptable? Manually converted, that would change '''Widget (SRD Equipment)''' to '''SRD:Widget (Equipment)'''? Have I followed correctly?--[[User:Dmilewski|Dmilewski]] 08:52, 8 February 2007 (MST)<br />
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:::::::::::That's what I'm talking about. Though if a script is going to be used, I wouldn't worry about it, unless modifying the script is a minor issue. Additionally, the script would have to make sure titles like '''Spells (SRD)''' don't end up as '''SRD:Spells ()'''. &mdash;[[User:Sledged|Sledged]] ([[User talk:Sledged|talk]]) 14:33, 8 February 2007 (MST)<br />
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::::::::::::If you guys want, I can make a script run database-end. It will save lots and lots of time, and will be just as accurate (depending on the rules that it is given). Let me know what you want. Thanks, --[[User:Blue Dragon|Blue Dragon]] 21:55, 8 February 2007 (MST)<br />
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:::::::::::::Script it. By all means, script it. If it can convert references inside documents, that would just PERFECT. --[[User:Dmilewski|Dmilewski]] 06:55, 9 February 2007 (MST)<br />
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::::::::::::::Database end will not work; the revisions of what has happened to ''every'' page must be present. A non-database script is the only way this will work and Blue Dragon is working on one now... --[[User:Green Dragon|Green Dragon]] 13:57, 10 February 2007 (MST)<br />
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:::::::::::::::The problems: Every category will be ''very'' screwed up as the SRD items are now only listed under the "S" instead of correctly alphabetically. Blue Dragon said he will fix this sometime. Also the links should work (redirects) however Blue Dragon will work on fixing them next. No need to do anything manually. Is this what you envisioned or is something wrong? --[[User:Green Dragon|Green Dragon]] 22:31, 11 February 2007 (MST)<br />
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::::::::::::::::This is about the exact level of complication that I was expecting. It's a big project and snafus should show up. My thanks to Blue Dragon for doing the scripting. Changing namespaces is a load of work, but I do believe that having a dedicated search for the rules set is worth the effort. Hopefully Blue Dragon can submit his alterations upstream and other wikis can get the benefit of our problemsolving. --[[User:Dmilewski|Dmilewski]] 06:36, 13 February 2007 (MST)<br />
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:::::::::::::::::[http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Talk:DynamicPageList2#Number_of_Columns DPL2] version 0.9 has a "column" parameter. If you set it to 3, and set "mode=unordered" you won't have to worry about the alphabetical headers. &mdash;[[User:Sledged|Sledged]] ([[User talk:Sledged|talk]]) 07:34, 13 February 2007 (MST)<br />
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::::::::::::::::::We're on 0.7.7. We'll have to wait for Blue Dragon to update the server.--[[User:Dmilewski|Dmilewski]] 09:18, 13 February 2007 (MST)<br />
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:::::::::::::::::::A question about that: Would the namespace still be listed (used). I mean would the SRD items still go under S when their are not just SRD items or would it disregard namespaces? --[[User:Green Dragon|Green Dragon]] 18:28, 13 February 2007 (MST)<br />
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== CR List on Creature Page ==<br />
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I would find it convenient if there were links to the CR category pages directly from the SRD creature section. When I design an adventure I usually look for monsters by CR, not alphabetically. [[User:Aarnott|Aarnott]] 13:36, 7 February 2007 (MST)<br />
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:I'll put that on my to-do list. --[[User:Dmilewski|Dmilewski]] 08:47, 8 February 2007 (MST)<br />
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::For SRD creatures, there seems to already be a page: Category:Creatures by CR. Nothing links to it, and it should probably be just a regular page instead of category; nothing has been assigned to it, and its content is the result of DPL tags.<br />
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::[[User:Aarnott|Aarnott]], are you talking about a page for only SRD creatures, or both user-contributed and SRD creatures? &mdash;[[User:Sledged|Sledged]] ([[User talk:Sledged|talk]]) 14:33, 8 February 2007 (MST)<br />
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:::I added a links to Creatures by CR (SRD) under the creatures page. It never got moved into the creature page when we redid the SRD structure. This is supposed to be a category, as I want it to appear under the Category page. (I sometimes find things by category and find this useful.) --[[User:Dmilewski|Dmilewski]] 20:51, 8 February 2007 (MST)<br />
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::::I agree, that should help many people. --[[User:Green Dragon|Green Dragon]] 13:58, 10 February 2007 (MST)<br />
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:::::This is great! So handy, thanks a lot. And to answer [[User:Sledged|Sledged]], I only meant SRD creatures. The user-defined ones already have a listing by CR. [[User:Aarnott|Aarnott]] 11:10, 12 February 2007 (MST)<br />
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::::::Gotcha. Though I wasn't asking if you meant user creatures by themselves, but a page that has '''all''' the creatures on the wiki by CR; both user and SRD. &mdash;[[User:Sledged|Sledged]] ([[User talk:Sledged|talk]]) 11:15, 12 February 2007 (MST)<br />
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:::::::He can make wiki-wide pages like this himself. This will help show us that he's "admin material." It's a good DPL project, too. --[[User:Dmilewski|Dmilewski]] 11:33, 12 February 2007 (MST)<br />
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::::::::[[User:Aarnott|Aarnott]], your going for admin ([[RfA]])? And, yes, I do think it is a good thing to learn wiki-code better (especially dpl's) --[[User:Green Dragon|Green Dragon]] 23:50, 12 February 2007 (MST)<br />
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==Orphaned MSRD Pages==<br />
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<strike>I didn't know if you were aware, but there are several orphaned MSRD pages, especially revolving around classes (acolyte, archaic weaponsmaster, and many others). Any plan to fix this? --[[User:EldritchNumen|EldritchNumen]] 04:00, 10 February 2007 (MST)</strike><br />
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:Just joking. Sorry. They were listed under orphaned pages, but I checked the MSRD and they are linked to. Must just be some flaw in the system. --[[User:EldritchNumen|EldritchNumen]] 04:04, 10 February 2007 (MST)<br />
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::DPL lists are included in the orphaned pages. To see the real orphaned pages (which is a little out-dated - I will update it today) use the Orphaned Pages - Excluding DPL and SRD (Should also include MSRD their). --[[User:Green Dragon|Green Dragon]] 13:59, 10 February 2007 (MST)<br />
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== Spell Categories ==<br />
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I noticed you where trying figure out what to name the categories of spell (and power) descriptors. I have two suggestions. Either do the same way the feat descriptors were done (e.g. "Category:Fear Spell"), or use "effects" (e.g. "Category:Fear Effect") since all spells with a specific descriptor are also an effect of the same name. &mdash;[[User:Sledged|Sledged]] ([[User talk:Sledged|talk]]) 16:35, 11 February 2007 (MST)<br />
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:Now that I think about it, "effect" would be better since it can cover spells, powers, spell-like, psi-like, supernatural, and exceptional abilities. &mdash;[[User:Sledged|Sledged]] ([[User talk:Sledged|talk]]) 16:40, 11 February 2007 (MST)<br />
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::Oooh. Good thinking. Consider it adopted. --[[User:Dmilewski|Dmilewski]] 18:48, 11 February 2007 (MST)<br />
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== Quicken Redirect ==<br />
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I just noticed the [[Quicken]] redirect. If [[Quicken]] redirects to [[SRD:Quicken Spell (Feat)|Quicken Spell]], where does that leave the other quicken feats? ([[SRD:Quicken Spell-Like Ability (Feat)|Quicken Spell-Like Ability]], [[SRD:Quicken Power (Feat)|Quicken Power]], and [[SRD:Automatic Quicken Spell (Epic Feat)|Automatic Quicken Spell]].) &mdash;[[User:Sledged|Sledged]] ([[User talk:Sledged|talk]]) 12:49, 28 February 2007 (MST)<br />
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: Good catch. Here's a question for you: how to we keep [Quicken] non-committed? Once we begin tagging using aliases, someone <br />
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:: "...will end up a redirecting term to one page when it applies to multiple terms." Is that along the lines of how you meant to finish that sentence? &mdash;[[User:Sledged|Sledged]] ([[User talk:Sledged|talk]]) 16:01, 28 February 2007 (MST)<br />
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:In general, most quickens refer to Quicken Spell, so that's not a bad default. What I did for other name-space collisions was to go with longer words. "Good" is "Good Effect." Quicken should be [Quicken Spell]. Enforcing that is more editorial policy. Honestly, I don't know how to lock in an empty page so that it forever turns red, which is what we would need to do to keep Quicken non-allocated.--[[User:Dmilewski|Dmilewski]] 15:23, 28 February 2007 (MST)<br />
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::I don't think you can lock a page that doesn't exist. I tried it with [[MyClass (DnD Class)]] by creating the page, protecting it, then deleting it. Didn't work. I logged out and was able to create the page again.<br />
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::The only alternative of which I can think, is to make [Quicken] just a locked page hosting links to everything in the SRD to which it applies. &mdash;[[User:Sledged|Sledged]] ([[User talk:Sledged|talk]]) 16:01, 28 February 2007 (MST)<br />
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:::I think that is the best answer. It could look like something below. We can institute that as a standard and use that for any abbreviation collision, then LOCK IT. <br />
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:::''Quicken'' is an ambiguous term. Do you mean: <br />
:::*[[SRD:Quicken Spell (Feat)|Quicken Spell Feat]]<br />
:::*[[SRD:Quicken Power (Feat)|Quicken Power Feat]]<br />
:::*[[SRD:Quicken Spell-Like Ability (Feat)|Quicken Spell-Like Ability]]<br />
:::*[[SRD:Automatic Quicken Spell (Epic Feat)|Automatic Quicken Spell Epic Feat]]<br />
:::--[[User:Dmilewski|Dmilewski]] 16:31, 28 February 2007 (MST)<br />
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::::I knew this would come up, and now is as good as any time to mention it. What we need is somethig like Wikipedia's "disambiguation page"; that would solve these problems (and be like Dmilewski's example - just better). --[[User:Green Dragon|Green Dragon]] 20:35, 28 February 2007 (MST)<br />
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:::::Exactly what I was thinking. How do they manage disambiguation on Wikipedia? Is it coding or manually created for every page with an ambiguous title? This problem (which has come up with quicken) applies to several other pages as well... in the next few days I'll try to go through the redirects and see which ones are problematic and make a list (if we have to do it manually; hopefully sledged or blue dragon can whip up some useful plug-in, but it seems like a fairly nasty issue at the apex of linguistics and computing...). "Weapons," for example, is a nasty redirect (it brings you to User Created Weapons, which has no link to the SRD weapons... which, to be honest, is actually rather irritating (because a redirect like this does not allow you to use search effectively!). &mdash;[[User:EldritchNumen|EldritchNumen]] 01:18, 1 March 2007 (MST)<br />
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::::::(Yeah, I could see this coming, too.) I'm happy to steal from the best. Off the top of my head, problem children include: good (alignment, spell effect, creature subtype), evil (alignment, spell effect, creature subtype), light (light effect, light weapon, light armor, light encumbrance), fire (fire effect, fire subtype) --[[User:Dmilewski|Dmilewski]] 06:05, 1 March 2007 (MST)<br />
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:::::::Until you get a system implemented, I will mark anything that I see as ambiguous as [[:Category:Ambiguous]]. That will make it easy to find pages that crop up.--[[User:Dmilewski|Dmilewski]] 07:13, 3 March 2007 (MST)<br />
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::::::::I've started with four terms: [[quicken]], [[climb]], [[swim]], and [[run]]. —[[User:Sledged|Sledged]] ([[User talk:Sledged|talk]]) 11:35, 1 May 2007 (MDT)<br />
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== SRD Categories ==<br />
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Currently, none of the SRD classes are in categories such as [[:Category:Arcane Spellcasting]] or [[:Category:Divine Spellcasting]]. Is this something you're in charge of? (I was pointed in your direction, and nearly all the pages that need changing are locked to me...) [[User:Armond|Armond]] 08:54, 21 March 2007 (MDT)<br />
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:I have not taken time to do this. If you crank out who should have which category, I'll paste the tags in. FYI, the usual page for requests is the SRD:Talk page. --[[User:Dmilewski|Dmilewski]] 09:12, 21 March 2007 (MDT)<br />
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== Redirects: Categories and Definitions ==<br />
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What should be done with terms that have both a definition and a category of the same (or similar) name like "humanoid" (which currently redirects to the category). It's a bit of an inconvenience to type out "SRD:Humanoid Type (Creature Type)" every time I want to link to the term, but it would also be a pain to type out ":Category:Humanoid Type" every time to link to the category. (I link to both fairly often.) Of course making it a disambiguation page would just require the long text for linking to both pages. So I thought one solution would be to use the singular ("humanoid") to redirect to the definition, and the plural ("humanoids") to redirect to the category. But then I realized that it was a partial solution at best because of elves (race), elf (creature), and elf (subtype category), and there's also words whose plural and singular forms are the same ("fey," "undead," and "vermin").<br />
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What say you? —[[User:Sledged|Sledged]] ([[User talk:Sledged|talk]]) 16:50, 8 May 2007 (MDT)<br />
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:I feel your pain. As it stands, the header for SRD creatures should point to the Type and Subtype definition. For the SRD, I hard coded those. We can set the dis-ambiguous sets of [Humanoid Type] and [Humanoid Category]. That partially solves the issue. At least, that gives us a "proper" answer. That doesn't solves the "improper" answer, what to do with the generic term [humanoid]. <br />
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:My rule of thumb is this: point to a definition or rules wherever possible, and to a category page if there is no better place. --[[User:Dmilewski|Dmilewski]] 17:34, 8 May 2007 (MDT)<br />
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== Neutral Alignment Category(ies) ==<br />
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Should there be two neutral categories to distinguish the law-chaos axis from the good-evil axis?<br />
* [[:Category:Neutral (Law-Chaos) Alignment]]<br />
* [[:Category:Neutral (Good-Evil) Alignment]]<br />
—[[User:Sledged|Sledged]] ([[User talk:Sledged|talk]]) 11:23, 17 May 2007 (MDT)<br />
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:I always hated that in the SRD. I would strongly encourage those categories (or similarly named ones). --[[User:Armond|Armond]] <small>([[User talk:Armond|talk]]/[[Special:Contributions/Armond|contribs]])</small> 14:46, 17 May 2007 (MDT)<br />
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::I don't see the use. However, it's easy enough to DPL up a page. If you want to add it, and there are folks who do find it useful, I don't see any harm.--[[User:Dmilewski|Dmilewski]] 14:53, 17 May 2007 (MDT)<br />
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:::Let's see how many others would find it useful, or otherwise have an opinion. —[[User:Sledged|Sledged]] ([[User talk:Sledged|talk]]) 12:11, 26 May 2007 (MDT)<br />
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::::I think separate categories are a good idea, they are distinct alignments and it's odd that they're lumped together. --[[User:Daniel Draco|Daniel Draco]] 12:15, 26 May 2007 (MDT)<br />
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:::::Oh, DUH, you mean [[:Category:Neutral Good Aligned Creatures]] and [[:Category:Neutral Evil Aligned Creatures]], and [[:Category:Chaotic Neutral Aligned Creatures]] and [[:Category:Lawful Neutral Aligned Creatures]]?--[[User:Dmilewski|Dmilewski]] 13:24, 26 May 2007 (MDT)<br />
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::::::I think he's saying there ought to be one category that includes NG, TN, and NE, but nothing else, and another that includes LN, TN, and CN, but nothing else. I can see the use, though it's not hugely high-priority.--[[User:Mobius|Mobius]]<font size="1">-[[User talk:Mobius|Talk]]</font> 13:30, 26 May 2007 (MDT)<br />
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:::::::Since you're soliciting opinions... There are various classes (notably [[Druid]]) that specify "any neutral alignment". This motivates the "any neutral" category. (Does that exist? I can't find it.) I, personally, have no immediate need for the suggested categories, but if others do, I see no reason to deny them. &ndash;[[User:Cuthalion|Cúthalion]] <small>([[User talk:Cuthalion|talk]])</small> 06:57, 28 May 2007 (MDT)<br />
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::::::::Right now [[:Category:Neutral Alignment]] is the "any neutral" category. Any creature/NPC that has a neutral component in its alignment goes in that category. Classes are not as of yet assigned to the alignment categories. My suggestion was to replace the one category with the two proposed categories. DLP can be used to recombine them (or simulate the recombination thereof). —[[User:Sledged|Sledged]] ([[User talk:Sledged|talk]]) 08:01, 28 May 2007 (MDT)<br />
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:::::::::So a few a for the new categories and no one is out-right against it. First, is anyone opposed to the category names I initially suggested, or have other suggestions for the category names? —[[User:Sledged|Sledged]] ([[User talk:Sledged|talk]]) 16:33, 8 June 2007 (MDT)<br />
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::::::::::I think those should work. They may be hard to remember and type in when searching/adding them, however they are inclusive and people should easily be able to figure out what they mean. I think the benefit outweighs the possible problems. I say keep the names above. --[[User:Green Dragon|Green Dragon]] 16:56, 8 June 2007 (MDT)<br />
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==Awesome Job==<br />
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Edit - just made this an h2 so it's not under Neutral Alignment Category(ies) [[User:71.219.137.212|71.219.137.212]] 12:18, 20 May 2007 (MDT)<br />
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you are teh 733tn3ss. You just moved 8 categories around to make it easier to search :)<br />
[[User:71.219.137.212|71.219.137.212]] 16:11, 19 May 2007 (MDT)<br />
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:Is he l33t enough to merit a [[template:barnstar|barnstar]]? --[[User:Armond|Armond]] <small>([[User talk:Armond|talk]]/[[Special:Contributions/Armond|contribs]])</small> 00:12, 20 May 2007 (MDT)<br />
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::Perhaps, I think so [[User:71.219.137.212|71.219.137.212]] 00:18, 20 May 2007 (MDT)<br />
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:::Thanks! The MIC is the 733tn3ss. Had to get those item slots sorted out.--[[User:Dmilewski|Dmilewski]] 04:48, 20 May 2007 (MDT)<br />
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::::By the way, Barnstars can be given by anyone, even IP's. --[[User:Green Dragon|Green Dragon]] 23:41, 22 May 2007 (MDT)<br />
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== Barnstar ==<br />
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{{Barnstar|I give you this Barnstar for modernizing the categories of all the homebrew feats on D&D Wiki to match the SRD's categories, which are more accessible, and then modernizing the titles of all the feats to be more standardized. Thanks. --[[User:Green Dragon|Green Dragon]] 22:28, 30 May 2007 (MDT)}}<br />
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== Dude! ==<br />
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[[User:Flession|Flession]] 08:12, 31 March 2007 (MDT) Good <b>God</b>, man, do you ever sleep? Like all I see on the recent pages is your work on the SRD...In fact, I have come up with a list of things you could very well be doing instead of updating the SRD:<br />
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* '''Work''' - That's right, that thing you do when you're not watching TV or stuffing your disgusting food hole. It could very well be where you ARE right now, wasting company time, and getting paid to goof off.<br />
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*'''School''' - "We don't need no education"? Nice grammar, moron, you just proved my point. In school, you would learn that the correct way to say that phrase is "We ''doesn't'' need no education"...idiot!<br />
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*'''Calling Your Mom''' - Your mom misses you, she went through countless hours of labour to bring you into the world, and how do you repay her? You come to THIS website instead of talking to that sainted woman. For SHAME!<br />
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*'''Walking your dog''' - Yes, that poor little innocent creature whimpering by the door wants to go outside and urinate. If you don't get up off your lazy butt and walk him he's going to pee right on your rug, and whose fault would that be? Plus, you need the exercise, tubby.<br />
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*'''Watching TV''' - TV viewership is your most important role as a citizen. The networks do not spend hundreds of thousands of dollars to come up with programming, and pay executives millions of dollars for scheduling for you to goof off here. Plus, advertisers are spending billions each year to reach you, and there you sit, not even watching TV! What are you going to talk about at work tomorrow, everyone else was watching TV and YOU missed it! You will have no idea what they are talking about!<br />
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*'''Talking to an actual human being''' - Yes, remember, the art of conversation? You should interact with your fellow man...or woman.<br />
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*'''Exercising''' - Look at yourself, fat, disgusting waste of space that you are. You're a disgrace. Get up, go outside and move...ugh. If you still can.<br />
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*'''Making sweet, sweet love''' - But looking at you, and the fact that you can no longer carry on a conversation, let's skip this one.<br />
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*'''Masturbate''' - Because you obviously aren't getting sweet, sweet love.<br />
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*'''Volunteering at a local charity''' - Helping your fellow man is the most rewarding and fulfilling thing you can do. Feed the homeless, visit the sick, do something to earn some good karma points, etc. Or if you're Catholic, work off some of that time in Purgatory. <br />
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*'''Read a book''' - Sheesh, would it kill ya to read a book? Some of the modern giants of literature, like John Grisham, Stephen King, Dan Brown and Tom Clancy, require almost as little thought as watching TV!<br />
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*'''Spend time with your children''' - Seriously, your kids are punks, if you don't spend some quality time with them, they're gonna end up on the streets selling crack. Even worse, they could end up like you! *shudder*. If you have a daughter, you better go have a tea party with her NOW, or she'll wind up doing porn, or as a prostitute, or worst of all, marrying Larry King.<br />
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*'''Take your car to be serviced''' - They don't put the 3,000 mile sticker on your car because they're trying to sell motor oil... well, actually they are, but your car needs to be serviced. Maintaining it religiously doesn't mean driving around and praying nothing goes wrong!<br />
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*'''Learn a second language''' - ¿Cuántos idiomas conoce Usted? ¿Uno? ¡Tu madre es una puta vieja, fea, sucia y gorda!<br />
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*'''Cooking a delicious and nutritious meal''' - That slop you eat isn't fit for hogs! Microwaving TV dinners does not count as cooking, and going to McDonald's certainly doesn't! But if you could literally burn water, you could always take classes.<br />
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*"'''GET OUT THERE AND SING THE SONGS, BITCH!''' - (slap) Now, look what you made me do! I'm sorry, baby, I just get so mad sometimes, honest, I didn't mean it"... Sorry about that, we let Ike Turner post that one.<br />
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*'''Repenting your sins/praying for your eternal soul''' - This site is home to some of the most deplorable acts of heresy and sacrilege. If you have read any pages at all, your soul is in serious peril. Hell is no joke!<br />
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*'''Breastfeeding your newborn baby''' - That is, assuming you're female, although I've seen some dudes with big ol' jugs...<br />
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*'''Checking that patient you left in dialysis''' - Uh-oh, the machine took too much, now the patient looks like an empty Capri Sun pouch!<br />
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*'''Donating your liver''' - Do this quick, all that beer isn't doing it any favours!<br />
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*'''Praying to Gosh''' - Gosh is pure unfiltered like. If you don't like Him back, he may dang your soul to heck!<br />
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*'''Listening to the last words of your dying relative''' - He may be confessing some really juicy gossip, like where Jimmy Hoffa's buried...Or maybe confessing the location of his secret Nazi gold!!<br />
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*'''Checking the ignition system of the shuttle''' - ....3....2....1...nuthin'... better luck next time NASA!!<br />
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*'''Finishing that plastic surgery you started on Michael Jackson years ago''' - You've been particularly lapse on this. His nose fell off, for crying out loud! Finish the job, he's still 15% natural!<br />
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*'''Taking care of that life form you developed''' - (''Lackadaiscalus doofi'') isn't going to feed itself...although your laziness in not cleaning out the refrigerator created it in the first place.<br />
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*'''Running away from the giant wave''' - It's coming closer...closer...oh, just give up, Stand up, raise your arms, cheer, sit down, wait for it to come back around the stadium...oh, wrong wave...yeah, surf's up, WAAAAAY UP! Better make tracks, darlin'.<br />
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*'''Breathing''' - And looking at you, you're lucky I reminded you to do this... slack-jawed gawker!<br />
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*'''Visiting some windswept steppes''' - This isn't really a suggestion, I just had to tack on my signature phrase.<br />
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*'''Restoring this article to its original (and correct) American spelling''' - Seriously, what is your favorite color of humor? Dammit!!! Do me the honor of cutting that out!<br />
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*'''Changing the spelling of all bastardised (read: American) words to agree with the proper and honourable British spelling conventions''' - This is done out of spite towards the Americans, with the benefit of much humour and colourful arguments, usually threatening to ram our testicles down our oesophaguses.<br />
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*'''Your mom''' - Ba-zing!<br />
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* '''Join the Military''' - What better way to show your patriotism than to willingly throw one's life into the gory cogs of the government's war machine? You too can have every ounce of human feeling and individuality painfully scoured from the inside of your back-slanted skull and replaced with the soothing panacea of bigotry and chauvinism! Plus, you'd get to frag the hell out of some real live brown people - no more settling for the pale substitutes of bargain-bin computer games! Join today, point-n-click!<br />
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* '''Break your[heroin addiction''' - Just kidding. It's good for the economy.<br />
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*'''Working on your thesis''' - Ever notice how you've been a college student longer than most of your professors have been teaching? Ever thought there was a reason behind it?<br />
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*'''Blink''' - You might want to do this more often, causing less watery eyes when you stare at your dumb computer screen.<br />
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*'''Start another World War''' - Because hey, war is good for the economy, right?...<br />
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...hope you get a laugh out of this :D<br />
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:LOL. Thanks. :P FYI, I'm on two months of paternity leave. In another few weeks, it's back to work.<br />
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== Feat auto-table ==<br />
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Hey Dmilewski,<br />
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There's another chance to waste hours and hours on this wiki. I copied the dlpc features that auto-create the class tables for feats, but now the feats need dlpc entries. Something like:<br />
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<nowiki><br />
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I mean, I just know you feel like updating all feats again :P Btw, here's one of the pages where it already works: [[DnD Spelltouched Feats]] --[[User:Mkill|Mkill]] 20:46, 25 July 2007 (MDT)<br />
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== Your homebrew stuff ==<br />
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Hi again,<br />
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I read some of your self-written feats etc., and I must say I really like your ideas. I hope you don't mind me ripping some of them apart. I found that you take some leeway when it comes to using the right game terms, and often, while I do get what the feat's intended effect is, it doesn't do what you want or it has unintended side effects. Like [[Balance Drills (DnD Feat)]], where the difference between base reflex save and reflex save changes the whole effect.<br />
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Also, you tend to be too complicated. [[Animal Feat Training (DnD Feat)]] uses 400 words, the one I proposed on the talk page uses merely 60. That's 20%. Experience has is that shorter and easier rules are easier to understand, easier to remember and harder to cheat. <br />
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I really respect the amount of work you put in the page so I hope you don't mind me making reviews. --[[User:Mkill|Mkill]] 04:04, 26 July 2007 (MDT)<br />
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:Game writing is technical writing. The fine points get you. I can pick out the errors and shortcomings of others quite easily, but it is hard to pick them out for myself. Your example is good one. So please, review. Comment. Make obvious corrections where necessary. Sledged is rather good at that as well. We NEED more of that here on this wiki.<br />
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:I'll review Animal Feat Training. --[[User:Dmilewski|Dmilewski]] 05:36, 26 July 2007 (MDT)<br />
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::I know what you're talking about. I sometimes make blatant errors in stuff I wrote myself. --[[User:Mkill|Mkill]] 06:46, 26 July 2007 (MDT)<br />
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:::I've noticed that you have a good eye. You're right up there with Sledged. (That man has corrected more of my errors than I can say.) Please point out things. Suggest things where they are needed. For obvious errors, just correct and note them. You don't need to write an essay. A note will do in most cases. "Changed 'Reflex Save' to 'base Reflex save'. This seems closer to what was intended." <br />
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:::In some areas, our thinking is just different. I tend to be "adventure oriented." For an ability to work effectively with the game as played, it must apply to a mobile adventuring party in a meaningful time frame. There are things in the base rules that are not adventure oriented. For example, Animal Handling. When I write feats for those things, I change the way that the game works. From my point of view, I take something that is not meaningful in the context of the game and make it meaningful. My animal handling feats take animal handling, which is marginal for all classes, and creates a way to make it useful for a normal adventuring character. <br />
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:::I've reviewed Animal Feat Training. I'll comment more there.<br />
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:::To reiterate. Please do comment and question. FYI, my first drafts often need to be rewritten. This is normal for me. Draft #1 usually works out the idea. Draft #2 is all about readability and flow. --[[User:Dmilewski|Dmilewski]] 05:36, 26 July 2007 (MDT)<br />
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::::If you want to change the way how the game works, write houserules, don't make a feat. If I see a feat on the internet, I expect it to work exactly with the RAW (rules as written). If a feat is written for houserules, note that in the description and put a link to the house rule. What a feat can do is fix minor annoyances (such as all the feats that allow monks to multiclass like a normal, sane character)<br />
::::And one thing is very important: Always cross-check the actual rules when you write a feat. For example, it's called "base attack bonus", not "basis attack bonus". If you're unsure about how something is called, just check it. And when you write a feat that applies to Jump checks ([[Improved Astonishing Leap (DnD Feat)]]), check the [[Jump]] description, it says right there that you can end a turn right in the middle of a jump.<br />
::::A lot of what Sledged and me critized could be easily averted if you bothered to check the SRD. At least that's what I do. --[[User:Mkill|Mkill]] 07:06, 26 July 2007 (MDT)<br />
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:::::Mistakes aside, my writing should build from RAW. That's its intent. All my writing is houserules. The Wiki itself is almost entirely house rules. Nothing that we have written is RAW. Every submitted feat is a house rule. Every submitted class is a house rule. There is nothing wrong with house rules. Like it or not, the RAW is fair game here.<br />
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:::::An important thing to note: Everyone here has some beef with the RAW. RAW is not holy. RAW is not unchangeable. RAW is not without flaws. I happen to like exploring off in new directions, and like seeing what it takes to make that direction work. Why else write new things?<br />
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:::::Our philosophy on feats differs. IMHO, feats change RAW for a character, introduce abilities, remove penalties, and help make awkward things workable. In the SRD, [[Weapon Finesse]] changes RAW, [[Tracking]] introduce an ability, [[Improved Sunder]] removes a penalty, and [[Spring Attack]] makes something awkward workable. Feats are the great fudge-factors of the game. You do not need to agree with me. <br />
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:::::For the Handle Animal feats, these struck me as something which should not be class abilities, but should work for multiple classes across the game. The fighter focusing on Handle Animal should be as viable as the Ranger focusing on Handle Animal. The Combat School feats are an exploration of what feat-intensive feats could look like. They are listed under Combat School, which are listed under Variant Rules. It's just a peculiarity of this Wiki that Green Dragon prefers feat entries broken out into separate entries. You may not like it, but that's our current policy. --[[User:Dmilewski|Dmilewski]] 08:12, 26 July 2007 (MDT)<br />
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== Category redirect ==<br />
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Dear Dmilewski,<br />
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Category redirects are ''teh evil''. Don't ever create a category redirect (again). Never. I repeat. Never ever create redirects in the category namespace. Since you have admin status, I assume you know enough about Wikis that you understand why you should never ever do this. Thank you. <br />
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([[:Category:Subtype|The corpus delicti]]) --[[User:Mkill|Mkill]] 11:42, 30 July 2007 (MDT)<br />
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:Strong wording. That type of wording is reserved for Green Dragon or Blue Dragon.<br />
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:When correcting folks, don't use a sledgehammer when a light pat will do. Lighten up. You'll get better results in changing behavior. Communicate directly, but simply. Ordinary conversational tone works well. Cite Wikipedia style if you need an authority, which is our style guide unless we've choosen to do otherwise.<br />
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:I'll rewrite your wording a little. "I found a category redirect that you made for [Subtype]. Category redirects are "teh evil". I presume that you know why, but in case you don't, here's a [Wikipedia Link] which talks about this."<br />
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:As it stands, I don't know why it's bad. I'll assign myself the homework of rereading Wikipedia's style guide for categories. I think that you've found the one (or two?) that I've made. <br />
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:As you get to know us, you'll find that we have strength and weaknesses. For example, Sledged is our heavy-template person and a great eye for detail, Blue Dragon is just back-end, and I do the heavy editing and ambitious content creation. I've also done text-conversion scripting. I'm relatively new to MediaWiki, having started last year to convert the SRD. I don't presume to know everything. --[[User:Dmilewski|Dmilewski]] 15:10, 30 July 2007 (MDT)<br />
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::I'm sorry. I shouldn't post on wiki when I'm stressed out with RL stuff. I'll be more civil next time. --[[User:Mkill|Mkill]] 07:43, 2 August 2007 (MDT)<br />
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== SRD Help ==<br />
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Because you are labeled as the "SRD Guy" I thought of something that may help you keep it under control more (especially the talk pages). [{{SERVER}}{{localurl:Special:Recentchangeslinked/Category:SRD}} here it is]. It is a recent changes that just looks at items in [[:Category:SRD]]. I hope this helps you, and feel free to put it on your user-page. --[[User:Green Dragon|Green Dragon]] 15:35, 11 August 2007 (MDT)<br />
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:Oops, actually it will not look at the talk pages... Arrg... I need to figure out how to make that work... Sledged (or anyone really), any ideas? --[[User:Green Dragon|Green Dragon]] 15:36, 11 August 2007 (MDT)<br />
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::There you are:<br />
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::''DPL Removed because it caused an error''<br />
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::If you update the DPL there would be a feature to add in the edit time, too. --[[User:Mkill|Mkill]] 08:27, 12 August 2007 (MDT)<br />
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:::First off, Mkill, your dpl is making an error on the page (you can see it by looking at the top). I would recommend modifying it or removing it from this page. Second off, I was more thinking an actual rc page would be better (one can see the diffs, more than 5 edits without modifying the dpl, can see who made the edit, etc). Does anyone know of a way to make that work? --[[User:Green Dragon|Green Dragon]] 11:53, 14 August 2007 (MDT)<br />
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::::Something about the way the loop functions and the dpl extentions interact. The archive template uses the loop functions extention. If I get rid of either one, the error goes away. Looks like something to notify [[User:Blue Dragon|Blue]] about. —[[User:Sledged|Sledged]] ([[User talk:Sledged|talk]]) 11:55, 16 August 2007 (MDT)<br />
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:::::Let's try it now:<br />
:::::{{#dpl:namespace=SRD¦SRD_Talk<br />
|ordermethod=lastedit<br />
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}}<br />
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== New [[Template:Armor Stats|Armor Template]] ==<br />
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After months of sitting in my todo list, here's the new armor template:<br />
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[[full plate]]<br />
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—[[User:Sledged|Sledged]] ([[User talk:Sledged|talk]]) 11:48, 16 August 2007 (MDT)<br />
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And material enhancements template:<br />
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[[full plate#Enhancements|enhancements]]<br />
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—[[User:Sledged|Sledged]] ([[User talk:Sledged|talk]]) 15:57, 16 August 2007 (MDT)<br />
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:I humbly bow to your Wiki-Fu. Ready to do this again for 4.0?--[[User:Dmilewski|Dmilewski]] 17:56, 16 August 2007 (MDT)<br />
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::Sure... the NPC/Monster stat block is the only template I see giving me any trouble. Designed for end users, not implementers. —[[User:Sledged|Sledged]] ([[User talk:Sledged|talk]]) 14:52, 17 August 2007 (MDT)<br />
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:::I like it ''':)'''. I also like the categories on the bottom of this talk page ''':P'''. --[[User:Green Dragon|Green Dragon]] 11:39, 18 August 2007 (MDT)<br />
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::::I knew there was a reason I didn't include categories with the weapons template. —[[User:Sledged|Sledged]] ([[User talk:Sledged|talk]]) 13:11, 18 August 2007 (MDT)<br />
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==Baby==<br />
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Due in February? Congratz! my family is also expecting a Baby in February on the 23rd. You? --[[User:Calidore Chase|Calidore Chase]] 11:36, 8 September 2007 (MDT)<br />
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:WAS due in Feb. She's six months now. --[[User:Dmilewski|Dmilewski]] 12:16, 8 September 2007 (MDT)<br />
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::Babies are heavy... ROFLMAO. Mine weighs 25 pounds now! I keep expecting my arms to start looking like Arnolds from all the carrying I do. --[[User:Calidore Chase|Calidore Chase]] 02:41, 9 September 2007 (MDT)<br />
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:::Mine's 18 lbs. She got so heavy that I could no longer carry her in one arm. Now, I'm strong enough to carry her in one arm again. Yeah, those kids make you work. Some folks can put their babies down. I never could. I always had to walk and carry. Thank God she now likes to squirm on the ground. --[[User:Dmilewski|Dmilewski]] 05:07, 9 September 2007 (MDT)<br />
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::::Mine walks and runs these days, but he still likes to be carried, much to the pain and discomfort of my arms and back. --[[User:Calidore Chase|Calidore Chase]] 14:24, 9 September 2007 (MDT)<br />
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== Abbr. for Assassin ==<br />
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Now that I've finally stopped laughing, I think it would be better to use "Asn" as an abbreviation for "Assassin." You risk causing abdominal injuries with readers if you use "Ass". —[[User:Sledged|Sledged]] ([[User talk:Sledged|talk]]) 11:33, 27 September 2007 (MDT)<br />
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:Doh! Well, you got a good laugh out of it. LOL. (Though in my defense, if there's an assassin at the table, there's usually an ass at the table as well.)--[[User:Dmilewski|Dmilewski]] 11:37, 27 September 2007 (MDT)<br />
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::Lol. I concur. --[[User:Green Dragon|Green Dragon]] 22:30, 27 September 2007 (MDT)<br />
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:::If I may, I would suggest using 'sin', as in assas'sin'. We use this term in Guild Wars, an online MMORPG, and it seems to wark more, uhhh, aproprietly than trying to use the first letters. [[User:Zau|Zau]] 11:29, 27 April 2008 (MDT)<br />
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::::I second that- 'asn' could mean multiple things, and could get confused with 'assn'. It is also a clever pun on the assasin's job. --[[User:Palantini|Palantini]] 23:31, 18 May 2008 (MDT)<br />
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== Spell Categories ==<br />
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After all the changes you have made to the spell categories, if I were you, I may want to take a look at all the DPL's that deal with spells (such as in [[DnD Spells/Powers]]) and fix them up... --[[User:Green Dragon|Green Dragon]] 23:22, 1 October 2007 (MDT)<br />
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== Your Feats ==<br />
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Hey, I just noticed your edits on your feats today&mdash;changing them to general feats and what not. However, now that they are general feats, I would imagine that it would be good if they were linked to from [[DnD General Feats]] so people, coming to D&D Wiki, can see them. If you don't have the time or would rather I add them to [[DnD General Feats]] please let me know. Thanks Dmilwski! --[[User:Green Dragon|Green Dragon]] 15:47, 9 October 2007 (MDT)<br />
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:Thanks for the reminder. I'll do it. I keep forgetting that those lists aren't DPL scripts.--[[User:Dmilewski|Dmilewski]] 20:15, 9 October 2007 (MDT)<br />
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::No problem. Anyway, all the feat pages really need to be upgraded sometime to use dplc's... Their is a lot to do on D&D Wiki, as I am sure you know ''':)'''. --[[User:Green Dragon|Green Dragon]] 20:17, 9 October 2007 (MDT)<br />
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:::About the DPLCs; I've been tinkering with the later versions of DPL2 on the [http://semeb.com/dpldemo/index.php?title=Main_Page official web site], and I've found that many of tasks (if not all) that [[User:Blue Dragon|Blue's]] customizations do, can be done with latest version of DPL2. Though the last time Blue tried to update DPL2, there were some issues. I don't know for sure, but I think it may be due to the global variables used by DPL2 and Blue's customizations. Anyway, I wouldn't mind exploring the idea of trying to upgrade DPL2 again. —[[User:Sledged|Sledged]] ([[User talk:Sledged|talk]]) 22:21, 9 October 2007 (MDT)<br />
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::::I am 100% for the idea of trying to update them again. --[[User:Green Dragon|Green Dragon]] 23:10, 15 October 2007 (MDT)<br />
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== Deleting Doubler Redirects ==<br />
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Hey, Dmilewski, those "double redirect delete" edits you have done tody have been adding content from several pages into single pages (it happened to Balrog and Aztec Warrior)... Can you sort it, please? --[[User:Sam Kay|Sam Kay]] 11:42, 20 October 2007 (MDT)<br />
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== Bot issues ==<br />
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Hello Dmilewski! Sorry that I just recently blocked you, but I pulled the site a few minutes ago thinking that I had a very serious database problem which was merging all of the tables together. Upon further inspection, however, I realized that it was just a bot gone wrong! Try to get the bot fixed ASAP, and an anonymous edit on this page will get you unblocked right away. Sorry for the problems! &mdash; <span style="color:#002137;">[[User:Blue Dragon|Blue Dragon]] <small> ([[User_talk:Blue Dragon|talk]])</small></span> 12:30, 20 October 2007 (MDT)<br />
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: I've got the bot stopped. My sincerest apologies for bad edits. How do you want to rectify this? I can revert by hand. <br />
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:The bot ran correctly until the most recent edits to the script. Before I run the bot further, I will track down the error. Dmilewski.<br />
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::Hello Dmilewski. Me and Green Dragon should have the reverts covered, but you might want to look over everything seeing that six eyes are better than four. ''':)'''. I have unblocked your user. Try not to let this happen again, but luckily it didn't run too long without being noticed! &mdash; <span style="color:#002137;">[[User:Blue Dragon|Blue Dragon]] <small> ([[User_talk:Blue Dragon|talk]])</small></span> 12:42, 20 October 2007 (MDT)<br />
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:::Thanks. I'll leave you guys to work that out. I'll give the bot a rest. I tracked down the error. In tracking down a different error, I turned something off and forgot to turn it back on.<br />
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:::I normally spot check my bot as it runs, but baby-duty distracted me. I'll have to restrict bot changes to times when I can verify the edits while the bot runs. Dmilewski.<br />
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== Please join the WFR Guild ==<br />
I have watched your tireless work with wonder and awe. I cannot imagine how much work you have put into this site. I applaud your efforts, and wish to personally welcome you as an honorary member of the [[Wiki Fiction Roleplayers Guild (DnD Other)|WFR Guild]], along with [[User:Green Dragon|Green Dragon]] and the other amazing members of this site. I am the Guild Headmaster currently, and would love to have all of you join. Please let me know if you have any questions or concerns about what it takes to join. Non-Elftown Members are a really new concept for my moderators, so please be patient, and let them know that 'xido' personally asked you to join from http://www.dandwiki.com . That goes for Green Dragon and everyone else who has proven their worth here. I welcome you all. -- [[User:Xidoraven|xido]] 18:23, 4 November 2007 (MST)<br />
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== Neutral vs Nonaligned ==<br />
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You've categorized some creature's as neutral-aligned (both axes) and some as nonaligned. What exactly is the difference between the two? —[[User:Sledged|Sledged]] ([[User talk:Sledged|talk]]) 16:12, 28 November 2007 (MST)<br />
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:Neutral-axis creatures are creature that could make moral choices. Nonaligned creatures are one that do not have the capacity to understand morality. There's a few creatures that I'm not sure of because they seem nonaligned, but they are smart enough to understand, such as elementals, griffons, and behemoth animals. In general, anything with a 2 or less intelligence and is "always neutral" is nonaligned. --[[User:Dmilewski|Dmilewski]] 18:53, 28 November 2007 (MST)<br />
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::I'm not sure that distinction needs to be made, or that users will immediately understand the difference. It also begs the question "what about non-neutral creatures that lack the capacity to understand morality like [[SRD:Skeleton|skeletons]], [[SRD:Zombie|zombies]], and [[SRD:Retriever|retrievers]]?"<br />
::On a semi-related note, for a while I've been wondering whether or not there should be [[:Category:Usual Alignment]] and [[:Category:Always Alignment]] categories. —[[User:Sledged|Sledged]] ([[User talk:Sledged|talk]]) 10:43, 29 November 2007 (MST)<br />
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:::Good questions.<br />
:::Nonaligned began as a way to identify creatures that were always neutral. I've dithered about this a bit, and I think that labeling them as "always neutral" a clearer move. I've had this on my personal list of things to do. <br />
:::I don't see a strong need for categories for "usually" or "always" alignment other than neutral creatures. How do you see this being useful?--[[User:Dmilewski|Dmilewski]] 12:05, 29 November 2007 (MST)<br />
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::::Just another level of categorization, and for uniformity; I figure if you're going to tag the neutral creatures with "usual" and "always" you might as well do it across the board. —[[User:Sledged|Sledged]] ([[User talk:Sledged|talk]]) 12:12, 30 November 2007 (MST)<br />
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::::: As a DM, I am wondering- will a nonaligned monster attack the weakest player or the player who attacked it last?--[[User:Palantini|Palantini]] 23:34, 18 May 2008 (MDT)<br />
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:::::: Non-aligned is only a tag. It says nothing about behavior. --[[User:Dmilewski|Dmilewski]] 06:40, 19 May 2008 (MDT)<br />
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::::::: On that point, how SHOULD I determine who a monster will attack? Should I allow its int. lvl. to influence this? Should it be the weaker player? Who dealt it the most damage? who dealt damage last? [[User:Palantini|Palantini]] 00:32, 20 May 2008 (MDT)<br />
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:::::::: That's a complex question. Go to [DnD_Discussion] and ask that question.--[[User:Dmilewski|Dmilewski]] 06:46, 20 May 2008 (MDT)<br />
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== Teleportation Categories ([[:Category:Teleportation Effect|Effect]], [[:Category:Teleportation Subschool|Subschool]], and [[:Category:Teleportation Subdiscipline|Subdiscipline]]) ==<br />
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In the pages [[SRD:Spells]] and [[SRD:Powers]], teleportation is the only subschool/subdiscipline listed under "Effects" that isn't a spell/power descriptor. So, of course, I noticed that there are three different categories for teleportation, whereas all the other subschools/subdisciplines do not have an "effect" category. All spells/powers of a specific subschools/subdisciplines are effects of those types, as are all spells/powers with specific descriptors are effects of those types. In fact, the only difference between a subschool/subdiscipline and a descriptor (that I can tell) is that a subschool/subdiscipline is always part of a specific school/discipline, whereas a descriptor can be assigned to a spell/power of any school/discipline. How would you feel about replacing all the subschool/subdiscipline categories with effect categories?<br />
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Lastly, I suggest renaming the header "Effects" in the [[SRD:Spells]] and [[SRD:Powers]] pages to "Descriptors" and removing teleportation from the list (or alternatively leave the header as is and add all the other subschools/subdisciplines to the list, but that seems a bit redundant). —[[User:Sledged|Sledged]] ([[User talk:Sledged|talk]]) 11:43, 4 December 2007 (MST)<br />
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:I feel strongly that a spell should be tagged with its appropriate school and subschool, along with any descriptors it has. I know that the rules use Teleportation in three different ways, and that this can be confusing. So be it. The issue is the rules, not the categorization. I only create categories for categories that are apparent in a description or categories that are referenced in the text. Teleportation is referenced as a Subschool, a Subdiscipline, and an Effect. Thus, by self-definition, teleportation gains three categories. Each category serves a different purpose. This may be sloppy, but those are what the rules give me.<br />
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:In most instances, a usage of "X effect" is referred to its subschool or subdiscipline. It is only in the case of an effect having both a subschool and a discipline that I create a separate effect entry. Teleportation is particularly evil as it has a subschool, a subdiscipline, and is used as a bracketed [Effect]. Sloppy, but true.--[[User:Dmilewski|Dmilewski]] 15:08, 4 December 2007 (MST)<br />
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::Ooooh... That is nasty. Didn't notice that before.<br />
::I think I'm going to contact WotC CustServ on this one. It looks like a throw-back from 3.0, under which teleportation was only a descriptor, not a subschool/subdiscipline (<s>or so I'm concluding. I don't have a 3.0 PHB/SRD in front of me</s> confirmed). I'm seeing that the only spells and powers with it as a descriptor are the power ''[[SRD:Decerebrate|decerebrate]]'', the epic seed ''[[SRD:Transport (Epic Spell Seed)|transport]]'', and few epic spells that use the ''[[SRD:Transport (Epic Spell Seed)|transport]]'' seed: ''[[SRD:Damnation|damnation]]'', ''[[SRD:Dreamscape|dreamscape]]'', ''[[SRD:Safe Time|safe time]]'', and ''[[SRD:Time Duplicate|time duplicate]]''. I think we can chalk up the power as an isolated incident. And the epic rules got the short end of the 3.5 updates in several ways.<br />
::To complicate the issue even further, the epic spells ''[[SRD:Eclipse|eclipse]]'' and ''[[SRD:Eidolon|eidolon]]'', which require the ''[[SRD:Transport (Epic Spell Seed)|transport]]'' seed, have the descriptor "Transportation" instead of "Teleportation."<br />
::And as a side note, ''[[SRD:Nailed to the Sky|nailed to the sky]]'' has "Teleportation" as a descriptor, but the page is tagged with the subschool. —[[User:Sledged|Sledged]] ([[User talk:Sledged|talk]]) 15:44, 4 December 2007 (MST)<br />
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:::''In most instances, a usage of "X effect" is referred to its subschool or subdiscipline.''<br />
::That statement is a bit misleading, because it always depends on the term preceding the word "effect."<br />
::* "Abjuration," "conjuration," "divination," "enchantment," "evocation," "illusion," "necromancy," and "transmutation" always refer to the schools,<br />
::* "calling," "charm," "compulsion," "creation," "figment," "glamer," "healing," "pattern," "phantasm," "scrying," "shadow," and "summoning" always refer to the subschools,<br />
::* "acid," "air," "chaotic," "cold," "darkness," "death," (which is missing in the [[SRD:Spells]] page) "earth," "electricity," "evil," "good," "fear," "fire," "force," "language-dependent," "lawful," "light," "mind-affecting," "sonic," and "water" always refer to the descriptors,<br />
::* and a couple miscellaneous effects, such as "sleep" and "moral," (not necessarily a comprehensive list), refer to none of the above.<br />
::As for "teleportation" and "transportation," after looking up the 3.0 PHB, the ELH, and the [http://www.systemreferencedocuments.org/ 3.0 SRD], I'm 100% sure those are mistakes. According to [[SRD:Developing Epic Spells#Combining Descriptors|Developing Epic Spells]], ''When two or more epic seeds are combined in an epic spell, all the descriptors from each seed apply to the finished spell.'' None the seeds used to create ''[[SRD:Eclipse|eclipse]]'' and ''[[SRD:Eidolon|eidolon]]'' have the "transportation" descriptor, and the only descriptor among the used seeds is "teleportation." So there never was "transportation" descriptor or effect.<br />
::Under, 3.0 "teleportation" was, in fact, a descriptor and not a subschool (and [http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0340.html ''teleport'' was a transmutation spell]). So the ''[[SRD:Transport (Epic Spell Seed)|transport]]'' seed and the epic spells ''[[SRD:Dreamscape|dreamscape]]'', ''[[SRD:Eclipse|eclipse]]'', ''[[SRD:Eidolon|eidolon]]'', ''[[SRD:Nailed to the Sky|nailed to the sky]]'', ''[[SRD:Safe Time|safe time]]'', and ''[[SRD:Time Duplicate|time duplicate]]'' should be part of the "teleportation" subschool instead of having the "teleportation" (or "transportation") descriptor, and ''[[SRD:Damnation|damnation]]'' should just have it removed without it being replaced with the subschool (it's an enchantment spell). —[[User:Sledged|Sledged]] ([[User talk:Sledged|talk]]) 11:50, 5 December 2007 (MST)<br />
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:::There's a trainwreck. Will you do the updates?--[[User:Dmilewski|Dmilewski]] 12:46, 5 December 2007 (MST)<br />
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::::Ok, The above power, seed, and spells have been fixed. Do you want the "sub(discipline)school" -> "effect" change, too? And while were on the subject, since under the psionics-magic transparency rule, clairsentience, metacreativity, psychokinesis, psychometabolism, and telepathy powers are equivalent to divination, conjuration, evocation, transmutation, and enchantment spells respectively why not change "school" to "effect," too? Then the appropriate disciplines can be categorized as their magic equivalents. {{Unsigned|Sledged|13:34, 5 December 2007 (MDT)}}<br />
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:::::Let's table that for the moment. I think that changing everything to "effect" will cause as many problems as it resolves. For now, let's categorize the [[:Category:subschool]] and [[:Category:subdomain]] categories as their appropriate effect. --[[User:Dmilewski|Dmilewski]] 18:38, 5 December 2007 (MST)<br />
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== Unearthed Arcana ==<br />
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So I started transcribing some Unearthed Arcana material. Seeing how you are kind of the admin responsible for the SRD content, I thought I'd put it past you (at Green Dragon's suggestion). Take a look: [[UA:Reputation]]. If you think this looks good, I'll continue to do more at my leisure. Comments? --[[User:Othtim|Othtim]] 23:58, 14 January 2008 (MST)<br />
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== Barnstar ==<br />
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{{Barnstar|I am giving Dmilewski this barnstar for helping with our growing list of [[Publication List|publications]] here on D&D Wiki. He added most of the current publications, quite a hefty task in and of itself, and really is helping D&D Wiki have a comprehensive list of all d20 publications. Thank you so much for helping with this enormous task. --[[User:Green Dragon|Green Dragon]] 18:02, 24 January 2008 (MST)}}<br />
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== WOW ==<br />
I just arrived here yesterday and I saw all the publications you were updateing in the recent list so I had a look at your page and have seen all the work your doing and have done its just awe inspiring!<br />
Sorry was having a little trouble with the template I ported over from wikipedia for the barnstar should look better now. [[User:Hawk|Hawk]] 08:24, 6 February 2008 (MST)<br />
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{{The Rosetta Barnstar|For all the work you've done translateing the SRD from Wizards into wiki form my hat is off to you sir. [[User:Hawk|Hawk]] 08:24, 6 February 2008 (MST)}}<br />
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== Catkin ==<br />
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:''Response moved from [[User talk:Zombiecow#Catkin]] as the discussion was started here.&nbsp;<small>--[[User:Green Dragon|Green Dragon]] 21:35, 24 February 2008 (MST)</small>''<br />
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Hey, I'm currently making a campaign setting, would It be alright if I put your [[Catkin (DnD Race)]] into it as one of the races in my world?, cos that would be great, I'm [[User:Zombiecow|Zombiecow]] 00:48, 23 February 2008<br />
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:Everything that I have put up on there Wiki is here to be used. Please use what you will. --[[User:Dmilewski|Dmilewski]] 07:46, 23 February 2008 (MST)<br />
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::thanks a bunch dude, your a legend! {{Unsigned|Zombiecow|00:03, 25 February 2008 (MST)}}<br />
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== Novels, magazines, ETC. ==<br />
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Green Dragon told me to come to you about whats being done with these. I saw the section with dargon magazine and stuff.<br />
I have a bunch of books from AD&D up to dnd 3.5, plus i have about 100 editions of dragon magazine, and i have polyhedron, another DND magazine. What exactly do you want done with this stuff?--[[User:Cerin616|Cerin616, Drew]] 13:42, 23 March 2008 (MDT)<br />
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:At the moment, we are just working documenting what existed, who the various publishers are, what they published, when it was published, etc. Basic stuff like that. Look at what I did for the Wizards of the Coast section, including product information, categories, and images. Do you think that you can replicate that for your publications?<br />
:At this point, I have not given any thought about what we should do with magazines. My initial suggestion is to document the major articles in each issue. For example:<br />
:*''Sailing Bards'' by Stan Rogers<br />
:*''The Huns of Navaronne (an Alternate Earth Adventure)'' by J. Joe Smith<br />
:*''Whittler Prestige Class'' by Y. Ankee<br />
:I hope that this helps.--[[User:Dmilewski|Dmilewski]] 18:52, 23 March 2008 (MDT)<br />
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::haven't been on in a while but yea ill try and do something. like i said i got a ton of works.--[[User:Cerin616|Cerin616, Drew]] 17:53, 11 April 2008 (MDT)<br />
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== Monster Requirements ==<br />
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For a while, I have been wondering what I need for each of my monsters (stats). I have a lot but not sure if it is all that is required. Could you please list all the info I need for my monsters or lead me to a sight that does so? Thanks. [[User:Palantini|Palantini]] 18:37, 21 May 2008 (MDT)<br />
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: You can take a look at [[CR Estimation Table (DnD Guideline)]]. This is an article that I never finished. It should help to figure final metrics. My suggestion to you is to take an existing creature an modify it in some way. If you want a new giant, find an existing giant. You also want to look at [[SRD:Creatures]] and [[SRD:Improving Creatures]]. You can also "repaint" a creature. I use this cheat all the time. If I want a water giant, I take a fire giant and I call it a water giant. My players never know any different. Likewise, a dire bat could be a pteradactyle. Groucho Marx had a saying, "I only steal from the best." It's a good truism to live by. Stealing is quicker and immensely effective. --[[User:Dmilewski|Dmilewski]] 19:20, 21 May 2008 (MDT)<br />
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::Thank you very much for the suggestion- I will go to the store and buy the Monster Manual immediantly...unless I can find a full archive here... Do you think I should buy a copy? [[User:Palantini|Palantini]] 20:25, 21 May 2008 (MDT)<br />
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:::We have most of the monster manual in the [[SRD]]. Look under creatures.--[[User:Dmilewski|Dmilewski]] 06:51, 22 May 2008 (MDT)<br />
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== Homebrew Setting ==<br />
I've been reading your Endhaven pages, and I think you've got a great world set up. I'm working on adding our group's home-world, Valgora, onto the wiki. Was seeing if you've got any pointers or suggestions to make it more wikiable. Also, if I understand right, you did alot of the SRD wiki'n and was wondering how good your wiki skills are. I'm trying to make a bottom footer navigation box template (much like you see across wikipedia, with the show/hide feature and categorized page links) and just can't figure it out for the life of me. If not, who would be the user to ask for assistance? &nbsp;<small><span style="border: 1px solid blue; -moz-border-radius:10px">[[User:Hooper|'''<span style="background-color:White; color:FireBrick; -moz-border-radius-topleft:10px; -moz-border-radius-bottomleft:10px"> Hooper </span>''']][[User talk:Hooper|<span style="background-color:red; color:blue; -moz-border-radius-bottomleft:10px; -moz-border-radius-topleft:10px">&nbsp;&nbsp;talk&nbsp;&nbsp;</span>]][[Special:Contributions/Hooper|<span style="background-color:red; color:blue">&nbsp;&nbsp;contribs&nbsp;&nbsp;</span>]][[Special:Emailuser/Hooper|<span style="background-color:red; color:blue; -moz-border-radius-bottomright:10px; -moz-border-radius-topright:10px">&nbsp;&nbsp;email&nbsp;&nbsp;</span>]]</span></small> 13:23, 14 November 2008 (MST)<br />
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:For technical-fu, talk to Sledged. My skills are good, but my time is short. 2-year-olds suck down time. Kids are very rewarding work, but they do leave you juggling priorities.<br />
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:Endhaven is an adventure-centric world. Why adventure? Why go somewhere? How can you make a difference? That's the ideal behind Endhaven. The heroes and villains aren't special invaders, but your own faults turned outward. My structure supports that ideal. I want you, a DM, and see adventure ideas. I want you to see hooks to steal. Want the Loam in your world? Steal 'em. I want a world that rocks so well that you WANT to steal it.<br />
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:What is your ideal? What makes your place come together? Why adventure there? ''What makes your world worth saving?'' Those are the things that you should be focusing on. --[[User:Dmilewski|Dmilewski]] 14:22, 14 November 2008 (MST)<br />
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== FYI ==<br />
I recently cleared out the broken and double redirects. Alot of the double redirects where old wikiworld that had been moved once or twice before settling on Endhaven. You may want to take a quick glance over the Candidates for Deletion to see all the blank old wikiworld redirect pages just to make sure nothings amiss. I don't foresee anything being wrong but just a head's up. &nbsp;<small><span style="border: 1px solid blue; -moz-border-radius:10px">[[User:Hooper|'''<span style="background-color:White; color:FireBrick; -moz-border-radius-topleft:10px; -moz-border-radius-bottomleft:10px"> Hooper </span>''']][[User talk:Hooper|<span style="background-color:red; color:blue; -moz-border-radius-bottomleft:10px; -moz-border-radius-topleft:10px">&nbsp;&nbsp;talk&nbsp;&nbsp;</span>]][[Special:Contributions/Hooper|<span style="background-color:red; color:blue">&nbsp;&nbsp;contribs&nbsp;&nbsp;</span>]][[Special:Emailuser/Hooper|<span style="background-color:red; color:blue; -moz-border-radius-bottomright:10px; -moz-border-radius-topright:10px">&nbsp;&nbsp;email&nbsp;&nbsp;</span>]]</span></small> 13:05, 24 December 2008 (MST)<br />
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== AdminBadge ==<br />
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I'd like to label you as an admin with the <s><nowiki>[[Template:AdminBadge]]</nowiki></s> on your user page. If you have a reason you don't think you should have the badge or you don't think the badge is a good idea, please discuss it on the badge's [[Template talk:AdminBadge|discussion]]. -[[User:Valentine the Rogue|Valentine the Rogue]] 16:05, 11 April 2009 (MDT)<br />
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:Cool. --[[User:Dmilewski|Dmilewski]] 16:41, 11 April 2009 (MDT)<br />
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== Regarding sorting/categories/SRD namespace ==<br />
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With regard to [[User_talk:Green_Dragon#Sorting_within_categories_for_SRD_pages|this discussion]], on the page [[SRD:Green Dragon]], where it says<br />
<pre>[[Category:Creature]]</pre><br />
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<pre>[[Category:Creature|{{subst:BASEPAGENAME}}]]</pre><br />
This can be replicated for all categories on all pages in the SRD namespace. --[[User:Superiority|Superiority]] 06:15, 20 April 2009 (MDT)<br />
:Additionally, you should also add sorting for some of the protected templates that use categories, like [[Template:4e Weapon|this one]] (those categories also need to be wrapped in <nowiki><includeonly></includeonly></nowiki> tags). The process for templates is the same as for articles, except you would not use <nowiki>{{subst:BASEPAGENAME}}</nowiki>, just <nowiki>{{BASEPAGENAME}}</nowiki>. --[[User:Superiority|Superiority]] 06:37, 20 April 2009 (MDT)<br />
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== Script ==<br />
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What libraries, if any, are you using to run your script/bot? If you have something based on Perl's WWW::Mechanize, do you mind sharing it? I've been waiting for api.php to allow for editing but it seems progress there has stalled, so I should probably rewrite my pending bots to use something else. [[User:Surgo|Surgo]] 20:12, 22 April 2009 (MDT)<br />
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:[[User:Dmilewski/Wikibot]] -- There you go. I only edit in the bottom subroutine. It needs some love, but it WORKS, which is why I don't edit it.<br />
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== Stop==<br />
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when you are changing all the SRD Endhaven stuff, you are spelling supplement wrong--[[User:Morlock Night|Morlock Night]] 21:32, 22 April 2009 (MDT)<br />
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: Firstly, put it at the bottom of the talk page. Secondly, they're patrolled edits and are for a purpose, if you don't want to look at them; just press the [http://www.dandwiki.com/w/index.php?title=Special:Recentchanges&hidepatrolled=1&limit=50 Hide Patrolled Edits] link. --[[User:TK-Squared|TK-Squared]] 22:32, 22 April 2009 (MDT)<br />
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::Also, he's not doing anything involving supplements at all -- the edit summary is wrong. There's no problem. [[User:Surgo|Surgo]] 22:50, 22 April 2009 (MDT)<br />
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:::I forgot to change that value in the script. *sigh* I always forget to do that.--[[User:Dmilewski|Dmilewski]] 04:18, 23 April 2009 (MDT)<br />
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== RPG ==<br />
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Just a short question: The [[Role-playing game]] page, do you think it would be useful to link it to something else for categorization? It seems a handy page and its a shame it can't be put to more use. --[[User:Ganteka|Ganteka]] 20:00, 14 July 2009 (MDT)<br />
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:Personally, I think we should RIP Wikipedia, then apply categories. Do what you want. I have no good suggestions on categories. Maybe a [Term] or [Jargon] category? --[[User:Dmilewski|Dmilewski]] 18:24, 15 July 2009 (MDT)<br />
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::We have a spot for Terms on the [[User Creature Glossary]], we just don't have any terms yet. Though, that would imply it was specific to 3.5e, which yeah... I guess nevermind for now. If I figure anything out that works, I'll implement it. For now, it isn't a big deal. --[[User:Ganteka|Ganteka]] 14:31, 16 July 2009 (MDT)<br />
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== Sewer Rats Campaign Setting ==<br />
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Not to sound like I'm attacking the setting, as it is quite good and obviously a lot of work has been put into it, but I really don't think this should be rated a five. The main reason being that its presentation is just terrible, I've seen a number of settings about equivalent to this be rated 4 or even 3 because they were set up like this one is. So until this can be changed I'm strongly urging that this setting be made a 4/5. I'm hoping to hear back about this, or see the rating changed... or both. ''':)''' Anyways, hopefully this issue can be resolved and the setting can be brought back up to 5/5 standards, because it's definitely deserving of it otherwise. ''':)'''--[[User:Vrail|Vrail]] 18:32, 22 May 2010 (UTC)<br />
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== Description of Grand Fantasia ==<br />
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== Publications ==<br />
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I know you uploaded most if not all of the publications for 3.5e into the wiki, and I was wondering if you had any issues with me add stuff (from the books) to those pages?--[[User:Irykyl| Irykyl]] 09:59, 7 February 2012 (MST)<br />
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:[[User:Irykyl|Irykyl]] does not mean the actual non-OGC content, but instead adding things like [[Complete Divine]] has. --[[User:Green Dragon|Green Dragon]] 10:31, 7 February 2012 (MST)<br />
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::Right. I have only updated [[Dragon Magic]] and [[Races of the Wild]] so far, although I have plans on working on others.--[[User:Irykyl| Irykyl]] 10:35, 7 February 2012 (MST)<br />
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==Please remove all my material from this wiki==<br />
I asked Green Dragon but he refuses. I would like all pages created by me to be deleted from this wiki. The reasons are personal and nobody's business but my own. Thank you for your cooperation. --<span style="font-size:90%;">[[User:ScryersEve|<span title="User page of Scryer's Eve"><span style="color:#006565;">Scryer's</span> <span style="color:#db6700;">Eve</span></span>]] <sup>([[User_talk:ScryersEve|<span style="color:#0053BF!important;" title="Talk page of Scryer's Eve">talk</span>]] | <span title="Contributions of Scryer's Eve">[[Special:Contributions/ScryersEve|<span style="small-caps;color:#0053BF!important;" title="Contributions of Scryer's Eve">contribs</span>]])</span></sup> 15:58, 26 March 2012 (MDT)</div>ScryersEvehttps://www.dandwiki.com/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Calidore_Chase&diff=556772User talk:Calidore Chase2012-03-26T21:58:30Z<p>ScryersEve: </p>
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==Welcome to D&D Wiki== <br />
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Hello {{PAGENAME}}, and welcome to D&D Wiki! Thank you for your contributions. I hope you like D&D Wiki and decide to stay. I am the owner of the site, and if you have a question feel free to ask me, however when contacting anyone on D&D Wiki through talk pages please sign your name using four tildes <nowiki>(~~~~)</nowiki>; this will automatically produce your name and the date. Also, if you want to help D&D Wiki but just don't know how [http://www.dandwiki.com/wiki/index.php?title=User_talk:Green_Dragon&action=edit&section=new drop me a note] and I'll see what I can do. However, when dropping me a note please tell me how much time you would like to spend working and how well you know the Wiki Format. I hope you enjoy editing here and being a D&D Wikian! If you need help ask me on my talk page, or just right here. Again, welcome! --[[User:Green Dragon|Green Dragon]] 23:05, 3 December 2006 (MST)<br />
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== Messenger ==<br />
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Hey, saw you doing the lightening/rouge things. Do you have any instant messengers? --[[User:Xenophon|Xenophon]]<br />
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:I use MSN Messenger. You? --[[User:Calidore Chase|Calidore Chase]] 12:33, 8 November 2006 (MST)<br />
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::jesuscash@cox.net is my username on there. It's a dead e-mail address so don't use it. --[[User:Xenophon|Xenophon]] 12:55, 8 November 2006 (MST)<br />
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:::So what do you want to use for messenger? --[[User:Calidore Chase|Calidore Chase]] 13:21, 8 November 2006 (MST)<br />
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::::Faster than this --[[User:Xenophon|Xenophon]] 13:33, 8 November 2006 (MST)<br />
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:::::If you guys are interested D&D Wiki does have its own chat, located at http://chat.dandwiki.com This chat will be up and running in about 1 hour, sorry for the delay if you wish to use it. It is simply a CGI IRC. --[[User:Green Dragon|Green Dragon]] 16:20, 8 November 2006 (MST)<br />
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::::::Have you tried it yet? --[[User:Green Dragon|Green Dragon]] 13:23, 12 November 2006 (MST)<br />
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:::::::Not yet, course I can just talk to Xenophon at work tomorrow. --[[User:Calidore Chase|Calidore Chase]] 14:48, 12 November 2006 (MST)<br />
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::::::::I see, well it is always available if you would like to try it. --[[User:Green Dragon|Green Dragon]] 18:36, 12 November 2006 (MST)<br />
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== Editing Thanks ==<br />
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Thank you for editing my [[Fireblade (3.5e Class)|fireblade]] for spelling errors! It's really helpful! --[[User:Shadow of the Storm|Shadow of the Storm]] 07:55 15 December 2010<br />
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:Not a prob, always happy to help --[[User:Calidore Chase|Calidore Chase]] 09:51, 17 December 2010 (MST)<br />
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== Rating the PrC's ==<br />
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D&D Wiki has quite a bit of Prestige Classes, with only two having been rated on D&D Wiki's rating scale. So, on a small mission to try to get ratings of PrC's done, I would like you to help. All you would have to do is go to [[DnD Classes]] then to any PrC page. Click on the PrC you would like to rate; then rate its balance by clicking on the "here" in the ''Please, help D&D Wiki by rating the balance of this item '''here'''''. I hope you can take the time to help D&D Wiki become a useful tool for every visitor that comes here; and thanks in advance. --[[User:Green Dragon|Green Dragon]] 22:29, 29 November 2006 (MST)<br />
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== Adminship ==<br />
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Would you like to be [[Requests for Adminship|Nominated for Adminship]]? --[[User:Green Dragon|Green Dragon]] 19:01, 5 December 2006 (MST)<br />
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:Sure, go ahead and nominate me.... --[[User:Calidore Chase|Calidore Chase]] 07:18, 6 December 2006 (MST)<br />
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::The voting will be going on for 1 week, however please finish filling out the [[Requests for Adminship/Calidore Chase]] to let voters better understand how you will help. --[[User:Green Dragon|Green Dragon]] 20:00, 6 December 2006 (MST)<br />
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:::Congratulations, you are now an sysop (admin). I hope you like the privileges, and decide to keep contributing a lot! --[[User:Green Dragon|Green Dragon]] 22:01, 13 December 2006 (MST)<br />
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::::I feel bad I got sysop and then had to disappear for so long. Will try to work in some time for this wiki whenever I can. --[[User:Calidore Chase|Calidore Chase]] 15:46, 21 July 2007 (MDT)<br />
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:::::Glad to hear it ''':)'''. I was worried that as soon as you got adminship you left for good... Glad to hear that that is not the case. --[[User:Green Dragon|Green Dragon]] 01:05, 5 August 2007 (MDT)<br />
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== Baby ==<br />
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Congrats on the baby-to-be. Mine first showed up on Feb 26. Mine is six months old now, and quite the handful. Babies are a team sport! My iPod shuffle has kept me sane, and my wife's nano kept her sane. I've listened to many old radio shows via podcasts. Librivox provides fee audiobooks. All that baby is why I don't do so much on the wiki as before.<br />
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--[[User:Dmilewski|Dmilewski]] 12:31, 8 September 2007 (MDT)<br />
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:You're also going to have a child? Congratulations in advance. --[[User:Green Dragon|Green Dragon]] 16:20, 8 September 2007 (MDT)<br />
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::Yep, actually this is going to be my second. My first is 15 months old. Fun stuff! My baby is definitely part of the reason why I posted so little for quite a while. It's definitely a joy though. --[[User:Calidore Chase|Calidore Chase]] 02:38, 9 September 2007 (MDT)<br />
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:::The Dmilewski syndrome... ah... (just kidding Dmilewski ''':P'''). --[[User:Green Dragon|Green Dragon]] 20:43, 9 September 2007 (MDT)<br />
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Second baby was born on Feb 13th at 0805 in the am at a whopping 9 lb 8 oz and 21 inches long. His name is Darius Alexander. --[[User:Calidore Chase|Calidore Chase]] 19:18, 15 February 2008 (MST)<br />
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:Congratulations! --[[User:Green Dragon|Green Dragon]] 22:52, 15 February 2008 (MST)<br />
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Third baby was born on 3 Sep 2010 at 0108 in the am at a slight 7 lb 8 oz and 20 3/4 inches long. his name is Isaac Matthew. --[[User:Calidore Chase|Calidore Chase]] 06:42, 3 September 2010 (MDT)<br />
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== Linking in SRD ==<br />
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FYI, when fixing or making links inside the SRD, please use links such as <nowiki>[[SRD:Link]]</nowiki>. We need to maintain disambiguity within the SRD. With the new version coming out, link-fights are bound to arise and I want to keep the SRD out of that. If you think that there is a redirect that the SRD should have, create a link in the SRD: namespace, then redirect it to the proper page, then lock the redirect. Thanks. --[[User:Dmilewski|Dmilewski]] 07:23, 7 November 2007 (MST)<br />
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:Groovy, will keep that in mind. --[[User:Calidore Chase|Calidore Chase]] 08:16, 7 November 2007 (MST)<br />
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== Birthday ==<br />
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Happy Birthday (I am assuming from the change on your user-page...)! --[[User:Green Dragon|Green Dragon]] 15:57, 10 December 2007 (MST)<br />
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:Thanks! And yes, my birthday was the fifth. --[[User:Calidore Chase|Calidore Chase]] 20:10, 10 December 2007 (MST)<br />
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::Happy birthday, again!! --[[User:Sabre070|Sabre070]] 04:24, 5 December 2008 (MST)<br />
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== Going Away ==<br />
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I might be gone for about 5 months. Not sure if I'll have internet access while I am away. Definitely not for the next month though. --[[User:Calidore Chase|Calidore Chase]] 13:52, 19 July 2008 (MDT)<br />
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:Where are you off to? Someplace exotic? --[[User:Aarnott|Aarnott]] 14:56, 19 July 2008 (MDT)<br />
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::Fort Polk first, then Fort Benning - somewhat less than exotic. --[[User:Calidore Chase|Calidore Chase]] 11:02, 20 July 2008 (MDT)<br />
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:::Now that I am back from Fort Polk I can absolutely guarantee that is definitely less than exotic. In fact it may be the least exotic place I have ever been.--[[User:Calidore Chase|Calidore Chase]] 09:52, 21 August 2008 (MDT)<br />
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== Art Commission ==<br />
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I'd love to talk to you about doing a drawing. Please e-mail me at susan.tardif@gmail.com. --[[User:Rowan|Rowan]] 00:50, 25 October 2008 (MDT)<br />
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== Sorry ==<br />
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Sorry I've been gone for so long - I'm currently in a military school with very little access to the internet. As soon as I can get back on reliably I wil be go back to my role as an admin. --[[User:Calidore Chase|Calidore Chase]] 07:56, 8 February 2009 (MST)<br />
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: I forgive you! --[[User:TK-Squared|TK-Squared]] 08:00, 8 February 2009 (MST)<br />
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== AdminBadge ==<br />
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I'd like to label you as an admin with the <s><nowiki>[[Template:AdminBadge]]</nowiki></s> on your user page. If you have a reason you don't think you should have the badge or you don't think the badge is a good idea, please discuss it on the badge's [[Template talk:AdminBadge|discussion]]. -[[User:Valentine the Rogue|Valentine the Rogue]] 16:16, 11 April 2009 (MDT)<br />
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:I don't have a problem with that. --[[User:Calidore Chase|Calidore Chase]] 10:43, 12 April 2009 (MDT)<br />
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==No longer an Admin?==<br />
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Am I no longer an admin? --[[User:Calidore Chase|Calidore Chase]] 12:50, 15 August 2009 (MDT)<br />
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: [[User_talk:Green_Dragon#Make_Love.2C_Not_War|Big badda boom]], everything exploded. --[[User:Ghostwheel|Ghostwheel]] 12:53, 15 August 2009 (MDT)<br />
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::Interesting. Not gonna read that long series of postings. Will I be an admin again soon? Rather like it here. --[[User:Calidore Chase|Calidore Chase]] 13:03, 15 August 2009 (MDT)<br />
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:::After you read that long series of postings, you will not like it here anymore. -[[User:Pun-Pun|Pun-Pun]] 16:10, 15 August 2009 (MDT)<br />
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== To Recap ==<br />
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This is probably the wrong place for this, but I only mean to help:<br />
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I'm not really sure why I'm doing this since it won't really impact anything, but given all of the accusations on both sides I thought this might help clear things up. I'm hardly a neutral third party, but I'm probably the closest thing to it, so here goes nothing.<br />
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I'm going to start way back, so maybe we can get an idea of the big picture. Feel free to offer your own opinions or clarify things where you think I might be incorrect; this is only meant to offer both sides a bit of perspective, at least that is my goal, as well as informing those who were inactive at the time (such as Calidore Chase).<br />
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'''April 16, 2009'''<br />
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Surgo, who maintains Tome content on the wiki (an oft source of conflict due to its innovative, and perhaps radical, ideas on 3.5e), becomes frustrated with the current rating system (due to the reasons outlined below) and how it degrades aspects of the Tome classes, and voices a complaint:<br />
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{{quote<br />
|Classes need to stop being rated down in formatting, flavor, whatever because they strip out the bottom parts of the preload ("X in the world" etc.). That crap was added in to books by Wizards halfway through the 3.5 life cycle to increase page count without increasing effort. That means if you look through the first half of the Complete series, they won't even have that crap! It really should be up to the author whether they include those bullshit redundant sections or not, and pages should not be rated down if they do not. It's possible to have good flavor ''without putting it in those retarded sections! ''<br />
|orig=Surgo<br />
|src=[[Talk:DnD Base Classes#Some Rating Nonsense Needs to Stop]]<br />
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Questions are raised as to what specific aspects of the rating preload mean, which Green Dragon clarifies, although lingering questions and concerns persist, as shown below.<br />
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'''June 24-July 8, 2009''':<br />
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{{quote<br />
|In the tavern, we were discussing the class rating system. It seems to be the general consensus that, as is, it simply doesn't work. A numerical system with categories doesn't do much in the way of giving a general appraisal of a class -- flavor, a 100% subjective measure, is considered equally with such absolutes as wording and formatting. In addition, a very large number of the ratings are given no explanation, miscategorized, or just make no sense. This could all be fixed if it was changed to a three-level non-numerical rating system (as proposed by Dragon Child): Needs Work, Usable, and Excellent. The crap ratings could be filtered out by requiring admin approval of all ratings -- an MoI to User:Admin could alert us and it wouldn't be very time-consuming to give a yea or nay. In the case of multiple ratings, we take the mathematical mode, erring towards Usable in case of a tie. This simplification has the added benefits of being smaller on the page and being usable on more than just classes -- finally, feats and equipment and other things could be rated.<br />
|orig=Daniel Draco<br />
|src=[[User_talk:Green_Dragon#Rating_System]]<br />
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This idea is kicked about and modified, with the following notable thoughts from Green Dragon, where he makes his perspective somewhat clear. I say somewhat, because while he doesn't endorse this proposal, he never explicitly says no either.<br />
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{{quote<br />
|Sorry I was away on vacation for a bit. Personally I am of the opinion to remove the entire rating system from the classes and just treat them like all other homebrew material. Use the Meta Pages#Improving, Reviewing, and Removing Articles system and call it good. Why do we need to add a numerical or word based rating system for the classes when instead we can use a combination of a reviewing, explaining, and page based system? --Green Dragon 14:13, 7 July 2009 (MDT)<br />
|orig=Green Dragon<br />
|src=[[User_talk:Green_Dragon#Rating_System]]<br />
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{{quote<br />
|I am of the opinion a numerical (or word) based rating system (as explained above) detriments articles more then it helps compared to a system where the unuseable articles are reviewed and helped in a article-based manner. --Green Dragon 15:06, 8 July 2009 (MDT)<br />
|orig=Green Dragon<br />
|src=[[User_talk:Green_Dragon#Rating_System]]<br />
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This is where I think the conflict comes in, as expressed best, I think, in this quote from Aarnott:<br />
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|So effectively, Green Dragon, you are suggesting articles should either be considered bad or not bad?<br />
|orig=Aarnott<br />
|src=[[User_talk:Green_Dragon#Rating_System]]<br />
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From my personal perspective, Green Dragon is not necessarily correct here because D&D Wiki is not a wiki in the same sense as Wikipedia is. Wikipedia is an online encyclopedia, a collection of facts. Facts, by their very nature, are not good or bad; they just are. On D&D Wiki however, we do not have "facts", we have original content contributed by our members (therefore making us very much NOT like Wikipedia -- see [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia_is_not_a_crsytal_ball#Wikipedia_is_not_a_publisher_of_original_thought Wikipedia is not a publisher of original thought]). <br />
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To surmise, this is where we have conflict: Green Dragon seems to want to emulate a normal wiki, such as Wikipedia, which has articles that are either up to snuff or not, whereas the others want to distinguish articles which are deemed superior, so that they stick out from the rest. <br />
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This conflict is not immediate, but it is important to note that this is where the seeds of it are.<br />
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'''July 20, 2009'''<br />
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This is where I think the user base went wrong. This post from Dragon Child opens with "Here's an Official Proposal", and yet I (and perhaps others) expected something much more formal (like a [[Requests for Adminship|Request for Adminship]]). I think this is another big source of conflict, because several users show up to endorse this proposal (and none oppose it) and Green Dragon comments on this same page section three times without either rejecting or supporting the proposal, which I can only assume implied tacit approval for those interested in the proposal:<br />
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|Here's an Official Proposal.<br />
A committe is formed known as the Ratings Committee, or RC for short. The RC is composed of 9 members, each of varied preferences and opinions, to form it. The RC members must each contribute to the RC once every month, or be replaced. The RC members gain the powers as follows <br/><br />
▪ An RC member is able to select an article he feels is particularly good and exemplifies what the wiki should be. He may Favor the article. <br/><br />
▪ An article with one Favor gains a Bronze Star. <br/><br />
▪ An article with at least 3 Favors is upgraded to a Silver Star. <br/><br />
▪ An article with at least 6 Favors gains a Gold Star. <br/><br />
▪ If eight RC members all Favor an article, it becomes a Featured Article (in addition to the Gold Star), and is given (unit of time - 1 week? 2 weeks?) on the front page. This may lead to a Featured Article queue. That's fine - it's better than a lack of one. All Featured Articles will get their fair share. <br/><br />
▪ If an article as two or less Favors, and at least six other Ratings Committee members believe that the article does not deserve a Bronze Star, they may do so. This, hopefully, will be EXTREMELY rare - I can't see it really happening ever if the committee is chosen wisely. <br/><br />
For the initial Ratings Committee, I proposal the following members -- Surgo, Lord Dhazriel, Rithaniel, TK-Squared, Jota, Ganteka, Daniel Draco, and Genowhirl. That is eight members. I would not normally nominate myself, however, at Aarnott's insistance, I will do so, on the basis that you shouldn't push a job on others you're not willing to do yourself.<br />
|orig=Dragon Child<br />
|src=[[User_talk:Green_Dragon#Rating_System]]<br />
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Around the same time, (July 26, 2009), Green Dragon adds the NeedsBalance and Wording templates to [[User:Rithaniel|Rith]]'s [[Gravity Warrior (3.5e Class)|Gravity Warrior]] (the 267th most popular article (by view count) on this site of over 16,000 articles (which include navigation pages, so in reality it's a lot higher), the 25th most popular base class by view count, and probably the most popular base class by rating count and overall approval, rivaled only perhaps by the [[Deviant (3.5e Class)|deviant]]). This is notable not for it's specific significance, but because it adds to the growing rift between Green Dragon and members of the user base.<br />
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One could argue that given the backlash Green Dragon took for his actions, he was right in arguing that templates create interest in improving an article (perhaps moreso than ratings), given how many stepped forward to help Rith. That said, one could also argue this also was bad, because changes were made to the article that did not improve grammar, but instead changed Rith's wording entirely. These changes imply that what is on the page is Rith's work, whereas now, for better or for worse, not all of it is (not taking a shot at you Rith, I hope I've made that clear). <br />
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It can also be argued that, given how small these changes were in most cases, these templates were excessive, and such templates should be reserved for articles that a really in need of an overhaul.<br />
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'''late July-early August, 2009'''<br />
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Discussion on the proposed rating system dies down, with no direct opposition.<br />
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TK-Squared works on the [[User:TK-Squared/Lavabox/Stars|requisite templates]] for this new rating system. <br />
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TK-Squared creates the now deleted [[RC:Nominations]] as the first step toward implementing the new system. Shortly afterward Green Dragon applies the delete template (with the reasoning: "No. We will use the reviewing template process. Were using logic and reasoning here." to this new article, prompting a [[User_talk:Green_Dragon#What_the_Hell|backlash]] from Surgo. <br />
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[http://www.dandwiki.com/w/index.php?title=Special:Log&type=block&user=&page=&pattern=&limit=100&offset=0 Momentarily afterward, Green Dragon bans Surgo for one year, with "unacceptable username" as reasoning, as well as Sulacu and TK-Squared (the three to immediately protest his actions). Almost immediately afterward he unblocks these same users, only to re-ban them with the following justification: "''Unacceptable username: Please email me if you are confused about this at all.''" ]<br />
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This is key for me. Surgo, Sulaco, and TK-Squared were all a bit abrasive in their responses, but did not necessarily do anything to merit an immediate ban, especially one that came without any prior justification (and to me, "unacceptable username" means nothing--from the outside looking in it looks bad--just saying, Green Dragon).<br />
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Aarnott then blocks Green Dragon for three days: (''Intimidating behaviour/harassment: You are acting out of line right now. Perhaps you should clear your head and come back to this later... Otherwise, this site will lose a lot of its users.''). <br />
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This is another key point. For the disenchanted members of the user base, this banning is simply a way of sending a message, since no one can truly ban Green Dragon from his own site. For Green Dragon it is obviously something much more serious, and he responds by blocking every admin other than himself. <br />
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Shortly afterward the site is taken down; the reasons for this are still unknown. I know that personally, I speculated that perhaps the site might never come back up given that all of the admins were removed (with seemingly dodgy reasons) and then the site came down. Given the new look (Google ads) the site sported when it came back up, I can now speculate that perhaps the down time was for the installation of these ads, although I cannot be sure. <br />
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Anyway, the site went down. We (as a user base) are still are not sure exactly why. While it was down, those blocked planned to create a new wiki, believing that they could no longer trust Green Dragon. They have gone ahead with these plans. <br />
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When the site came back on, Green Dragon offered his explanation for the banning: he needed to re-think the site hierarchy in light of the fact that he got banned from his own website, something which was unacceptable for him. This goes back to how you interpret Aarnott's action: was it just a message, or was it something more?<br />
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After that users are unblocked and [[User_talk:Green_Dragon#Make_Love.2C_Not_War|attempts at explanation are made, but neither side appears satisfied with the other]], and we are left where we are now. <br />
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So, like I said, hopefully that gives those who weren't here some idea of what happened without presenting too biased a view (although I admit such is impossible).<br />
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:I created the RC:x pages. These pages were for the purposes of the proposed system and were in no-way threatening to immediately overwrite the system already in place (or any other system that Green Dragon had in his head (which, by the way, we do not have access to due to the lack of mind reading abilities)). These pages were more examples and just to show how the new system would work. We had waited about 3 weeks for any sort of coherent reply from Green Dragon about whether or not this rating system would be acceptable.<br />
:Out of courtesy, I've removed what else I said. --[[User:TK-Squared|TK-Squared]] 17:06, 15 August 2009 (MDT)<br />
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::So all this is about a disagreement on the rating system? Seems kinda petty. lets all just step back, take a breath, and continue adding in that content that I've enjoyed reading on those oh so brief moments that I do have access to the internet. --[[User:Calidore Chase|Calidore Chase]] 17:14, 15 August 2009 (MDT)<br />
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:::I'm not interested in staying on a wiki where I could be banned for voicing my disagreement with what the site owner has just done. --[[User:TK-Squared|TK-Squared]] 17:16, 15 August 2009 (MDT)<br />
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::::While I completely understand your view on that point, I also understand why Green Dragon has reacted the way he has. This site is a major undertaking on his part and to even feel like he was being placed under attack was a bit of an insult. Course anyone who is willing to become an admin on here is likely to feel alot of ownership of the site. Heck, I barely ever get to come here anymore (as evidenced by my ignorance of what has been going on) and I still feel like this is MY site (even though I know it's no where near mine). I'm sure that this site is going to lose some users over this conflict and I really hate to see them go, much of the best content on this site is put up by people who have become admins. I still say everyone calm down and give the site a second chance. Even if he doesn't give back the admin rights to me I will still be staying on this site. --[[User:Calidore Chase|Calidore Chase]] 17:25, 15 August 2009 (MDT)<br />
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::::: No-one attacked him. He made NO OBJECTIONS for three weeks about the Ratings Committee idea and... Out of the blue, banned three people over it. This is not a rational thing to do and not something an owner should do. We didn't even implement the system, I just added TWO pages. Is this really a reason to ban people? --[[User:TK-Squared|TK-Squared]] 17:37, 15 August 2009 (MDT)<br />
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::::::And Calidore, half the admin staff -is- leaving, along with nearly the entire active userbase. Everyone's already gone. They have already left and created their own wiki, that's how bad this got. Many of them, at least two of the mods, are actually trying to get their stuff deleted from this site because they already took it to the new place. I mean, if you look at the Tavern history, ever since the incident only IPs have been showing up randomly (at least until the historey stopped being recored a day or two ago). Of the people who are staying, I can probably count the known ones on one hand, everyone else is a relative unknown or an IP, or some admin who hardly ever even shows up. Greendragon has effectively stuck a knife into the heart of his own site. --[[User:TheWarforgedArtificer|TheWarforgedArtificer]] 17:42, 15 August 2009 (MDT)<br />
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:::::::Some of us still remain, and will still contribute. &nbsp;<small><span style="border: 1px solid blue; -moz-border-radius:10px">[[User:Hooper|'''<span style="background-color:White; color:FireBrick; -moz-border-radius-topleft:10px; -moz-border-radius-bottomleft:10px"> Hooper </span>''']][[User talk:Hooper|<span style="background-color:red; color:blue; -moz-border-radius-bottomleft:10px; -moz-border-radius-topleft:10px">&nbsp;&nbsp;talk&nbsp;&nbsp;</span>]][[Special:Contributions/Hooper|<span style="background-color:red; color:blue">&nbsp;&nbsp;contribs&nbsp;&nbsp;</span>]][[Special:Emailuser/Hooper|<span style="background-color:red; color:blue; -moz-border-radius-bottomright:10px; -moz-border-radius-topright:10px">&nbsp;&nbsp;email&nbsp;&nbsp;</span>]]</span></small> 22:51, 15 August 2009 (MDT)<br />
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::::::::"''Green Dragon offered his explanation for the banning: he needed to re-think the site hierarchy in light of the fact that he got banned from his own website, something which was unacceptable for him.''" covers most of the banning issues. Anyway, about that argument, I clarified it should not just be a good/bad scale (unlike the [[Meta Pages#Improving, Reviewing, and Removing Articles]] I mean). My issues were never countered &mdash; for a working system they would need to be. The RC Committee was never discussed. Please think about things before one posts - intelligence is important. --[[User:Green Dragon|Green Dragon]] 14:47, 17 August 2009 (MDT)<br />
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::::::::: And sometimes keeping good relations with those you work with is even more important, whether they're your peers, subordinates, or superiors. I don't really have a side here, but from where I'm looking, you're doing a great job of insulting the intelligence of people (whether it's true or not is irrelevant--there is a politeness and etiquette that we should afford each other as sentient beings IMO) that you might want to keep on the wiki (though it's too late IMO for most) and alienating them in general. --[[User:Ghostwheel|Ghostwheel]] 14:50, 17 August 2009 (MDT)<br />
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::::::::::I don't like stupid ideas or people (for the most part). RC patrol (whatever it is called) was one of the stupidest ideas ever implemented. If that was to ''ever'' pass D&D Wiki would be gone as it is now. Same goes for stupid things like thinking that another rating system is better (stupid people ''think'' about systems for their sake - then talk about them). --[[User:Green Dragon|Green Dragon]] 15:04, 17 August 2009 (MDT)<br />
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:::::::::::At this point, it's not about that. At all. Basic etiquette first of all demands that you don't [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Civility insult other people] or [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:No_personal_attacks call them stupid because you don't like their work] regardless of the quality of their material. Regardless of what people say, you should not make personal attacks against them; criticize their work if you must, but don't get personal. It just leads to bad feelings all around.<br />
:::::::::::Secondly, you say you don't like "stupid people"--deal with it. This is the Internet, not some single-player RPG that you can turn on and off. There's a wide variety of people, and this is a wiki. That means people of all stripes, colors, and ideologies post here. People who are smart, stupid, American, European, and Atlantean for all I know. If you don't like someone, don't talk to them. But [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Civility calling them and their work stupid] rather than constructively criticizing them just leaves a bad taste in everyone's mouth. It might be too late, but I think an apology is in order, if only for the violating the [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Civility guidelines] that you say this wiki upholds.<br />
::::::::::: To tell the truth I was planning to stay. But if you can't even admit to the mistakes you make yourself (and I know we all make them, and it can be painful owning up to them) then I'm unsure if I do want to stay. --[[User:Ghostwheel|Ghostwheel]] 15:12, 17 August 2009 (MDT)<br />
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::::::::::::Ah, but I did not call any''one'' stupid - I just created a group label of people called "stupid people". And I don't dislike "stupid people" I just dislike it when they, as a group, respond to something which requires thinking with none. --[[User:Green Dragon|Green Dragon]] 15:15, 17 August 2009 (MDT)<br />
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{{Discussion Indentation Revert}}<br />
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:After all the discussion I've read, I think we both know exactly who you're referring to. Even if you insult someone in an oblique or evasive manner, you're still insulting them. --[[User:Ghostwheel|Ghostwheel]] 15:18, 17 August 2009 (MDT)<br />
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== New Home ==<br />
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Well, living in Germany now. Lets see if I get any free time to actually work here ''':)''' --[[User:Calidore Chase|Calidore Chase]] 14:15, 20 October 2009 (MDT)<br />
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:Oh nice. Sprechen Sie Deutsch? Welches Bundesland? Schönes Land, Landschaften, Kultur usw; oder? --[[User:Green Dragon|Green Dragon]] 20:24, 20 October 2009 (MDT)<br />
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::Das es mina bruda on de tofel!! --[[User:129.123.252.131|129.123.252.131]] 22:25, 20 October 2009 (MDT)<br />
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:::Der ist mein brüder; der an den tofel (was bedeutet tofel?)... --[[User:Green Dragon|Green Dragon]] 23:06, 20 October 2009 (MDT)<br />
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::::Tofel means Chalkboard. My brother got into trouble frequently in his High School German class. He was always in detention writing German phrases on the chalkboard. Things like "I will not teach German swear words to others". As such, the only German phrase I ever learned was "That is my brother of the chalkboard". :p --[[User:129.123.252.131|129.123.252.131]] 23:23, 20 October 2009 (MDT)<br />
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:::::Unfortunately, no Deutsch yet. I can drive over here now. mwahahahahahahaha --[[User:Calidore Chase|Calidore Chase]] 14:31, 21 October 2009 (MDT)<br />
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::::::Found a home today, get closer and closer to having real internet!--[[User:Calidore Chase|Calidore Chase]] 11:05, 2 November 2009 (MST)<br />
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:::::::Well, internet connection in my new home town are utter crap (384Kbs max) so we need to look into satellite interent. Craziness. I swear I will eventually be able to once again take up my duties here. --[[User:Calidore Chase|Calidore Chase]] 05:53, 28 November 2009 (MST)<br />
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::::::::Oddly I've been in two homes since I last wrote on here... My newest home has pretty good I-net.. I, unfortunately, just do not have time... --[[User:Calidore Chase|Calidore Chase]] 16:14, 18 May 2011 (MDT)<br />
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Review for my new class Presto<br />
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Hi Calidore Chase,<br />
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I would kindly ask you as creator of the class “Prestidigitator” to review my first self made class “Presto”. I should warn you in advance that my English is not my primary language.<br />
http://www.dandwiki.com/wiki/Presto_%283.5e_Prestige_Class%29 <br />
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With kind regards.<br />
Onra77<br />
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Hi Calidore Chase, me again, on the topic: Prestidigitator<br />
http://www.dandwiki.com/wiki/Talk:Prestidigitator_%283.5e_Prestige_Class%29 <br />
I had placed the following:<br />
“The loss of one level of spellcasting was supposed to help balance out the additions of the abilities. “. I suppose that this was necessary when this class had 5 levels but know it has 10 levels I would add “+1 levels of Existing Class” for the first level. --Onra77 20:30, 6 July 2011 (GMT)<br />
What's your opinion on this<br />
--[[User:Onra77|Onra77]] 15:25, 13 December 2011 (MST)<br />
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==Please remove all my material from this wiki==<br />
I asked Green Dragon but he refuses. I would like all pages created by me to be deleted from this wiki. The reasons are personal and nobody's business but my own. Thank you for your cooperation. --<span style="font-size:90%;">[[User:ScryersEve|<span title="User page of Scryer's Eve"><span style="color:#006565;">Scryer's</span> <span style="color:#db6700;">Eve</span></span>]] <sup>([[User_talk:ScryersEve|<span style="color:#0053BF!important;" title="Talk page of Scryer's Eve">talk</span>]] | <span title="Contributions of Scryer's Eve">[[Special:Contributions/ScryersEve|<span style="small-caps;color:#0053BF!important;" title="Contributions of Scryer's Eve">contribs</span>]])</span></sup> 15:58, 26 March 2012 (MDT)</div>ScryersEvehttps://www.dandwiki.com/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Blue_Dragon&diff=556771User talk:Blue Dragon2012-03-26T21:56:49Z<p>ScryersEve: /* Please remove all my material from this wiki */ new section</p>
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== MoI ==<br />
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{{Messages of Interest|messages=<br />
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i can't rate dragonblooded!<br />
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==Media Wiki Update==<br />
Are there any particular coding differences we should be aware of with the new update? &nbsp;<small><span style="border: 1px solid black; -moz-border-radius:10px">[[User:Hooper|'''<span style="background-color:White; color:Black; -moz-border-radius-topleft:10px; -moz-border-radius-bottomleft:10px"> Hooper </span>''']][[User talk:Hooper|<span style="background-color:Black; color:white; -moz-border-radius-bottomleft:10px; -moz-border-radius-topleft:10px">&nbsp;&nbsp;talk&nbsp;&nbsp;</span>]][[Special:Contributions/Hooper|<span style="background-color:black; color:white">&nbsp;&nbsp;contribs&nbsp;&nbsp;</span>]][[Special:Emailuser/Hooper|<span style="background-color:black; color:white; -moz-border-radius-bottomright:10px; -moz-border-radius-topright:10px">&nbsp;&nbsp;email&nbsp;&nbsp;</span>]]</span></small> 18:44, 31 December 2009 (UTC)<br />
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:Not that I'm aware of yet. A few things still haven't been worked out yet, but overall coding should remain [roughly] the same. &mdash; <span style="color:#002137;">[[User:Blue Dragon|Blue Dragon]] <small> ([[User_talk:Blue Dragon|talk]])</small></span> 04:56, 4 January 2010 (UTC)<br />
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== serious lag, and errors when searching. ==<br />
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Since D&D wiki has updated to using sphinx to search, I have experienced repeated erors in searches. It said to report any problems at the top of the page, so that's what I am doing.<br />
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:Can you please let me know what kind of errors you are experiencing? Are you not happy with the relevancy of the searches or are there frequent technical errors? &mdash; <span style="color:#002137;">[[User:Blue Dragon|Blue Dragon]] <small> ([[User_talk:Blue Dragon|talk]])</small></span> 04:54, 4 January 2010 (UTC)<br />
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==URL==<br />
Whenever I try to go to Dandwiki.com through my URL I get an error page yet whenever I Google Dandwiki I can use the link to get here.<br />
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:Make sure you're typing in '''www.dandwiki.com''' and not www.dan'''d'''dwiki.com. The word "and" is actually not completed, so the url reads D an D wiki, not D and D wiki. You wrote it correctly here but just make sure you aren't doing that when typing it in. &nbsp;<small><span style="border: 1px solid black; -moz-border-radius:10px">[[User:Hooper|'''<span style="background-color:White; color:Black; -moz-border-radius-topleft:10px; -moz-border-radius-bottomleft:10px"> Hooper </span>''']][[User talk:Hooper|<span style="background-color:Black; color:white; -moz-border-radius-bottomleft:10px; -moz-border-radius-topleft:10px">&nbsp;&nbsp;talk&nbsp;&nbsp;</span>]][[Special:Contributions/Hooper|<span style="background-color:black; color:white">&nbsp;&nbsp;contribs&nbsp;&nbsp;</span>]][[Special:Emailuser/Hooper|<span style="background-color:black; color:white; -moz-border-radius-bottomright:10px; -moz-border-radius-topright:10px">&nbsp;&nbsp;email&nbsp;&nbsp;</span>]]</span></small> 04:03, 4 January 2010 (UTC)<br />
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::Both url's work. We have both domains of dandwiki.com and danddwiki.com (it was kept at dandwiki.com for searching reasons). --[[User:Green Dragon|Green Dragon]] 04:38, 4 January 2010 (UTC)<br />
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:::This should be fixed now for the upgrade. Thanks for the bug report. &mdash; <span style="color:#002137;">[[User:Blue Dragon|Blue Dragon]] <small> ([[User_talk:Blue Dragon|talk]])</small></span> 04:54, 4 January 2010 (UTC)<br />
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== Pooka 4e Race ==<br />
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Having just finished the write-up for the 4e Pooka race, I was unaware that there was already a 3.5e Pooka race here. Would it be at all possible to have the name of the new race changed to 'Pooka (4E Race)' instead of just 'Pooka', so as not to get them mixed up?<br />
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Incidentally, is there anything you feel could improve the write-up?<br />
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== DLPC ==<br />
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All of the 3.5e feats are incorrectly formatted due to DLPC no longer being a proper function.<br />
On top of this It looks like properties aren't working properly either, but this could just be the dlpc not working. Either way there are some affected templates, and fixing the template will fix this issue, but most likely the DLPC can no longer be used for sorting. I'm unsure how this affects the rest of the site. - [[User:Sleaker|Sleaker]] 23:00, 4 January 2010 (UTC)<br />
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== Questions ==<br />
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Hello,<br />
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1) I have submitted an item that didn't show up (Thrillseeker base class)Additionally my friends have submitted classes some of which have been published and some which has not, they can not figure out why either. His contributions were Legend of the Swamp, and Ambassador of Slime.<br />
AND<br />
2) When I look at all the prestige classes, it stops at S.. and there is no link to go to the second page or see the rest of the prestige classes.<br />
AND<br />
3) This site is very cool and very needed, for the 3.5 community that didn't make the switch. Thank you.<br />
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== Captcha ==<br />
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Hello. I was just wondering. I understand how the new captcha can help keep down on spam and vandalism and bots, but its also really annoying. Everytime you change or add a interwiki link from one article to another it registers it as a outgoing off-site link and forces a captcha. Can the program be altered to only do that for off-site wikis and not interwiki links? I'm going to hold off on continuing the removal of double redirects until someone can answer this, as its just too annoying.<br />
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Additionally, have I missed the button or is the MOI feature gone? &nbsp;<small><span style="border: 1px solid black; -moz-border-radius:10px">[[User:Hooper|'''<span style="background-color:White; color:Black; -moz-border-radius-topleft:10px; -moz-border-radius-bottomleft:10px"> Hooper </span>''']][[User talk:Hooper|<span style="background-color:Black; color:white; -moz-border-radius-bottomleft:10px; -moz-border-radius-topleft:10px">&nbsp;&nbsp;talk&nbsp;&nbsp;</span>]][[Special:Contributions/Hooper|<span style="background-color:black; color:white">&nbsp;&nbsp;contribs&nbsp;&nbsp;</span>]][[Special:Emailuser/Hooper|<span style="background-color:black; color:white; -moz-border-radius-bottomright:10px; -moz-border-radius-topright:10px">&nbsp;&nbsp;email&nbsp;&nbsp;</span>]]</span></small> 00:04, 20 January 2010 (UTC)<br />
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== Uploading creature images ==<br />
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I cannot seem to upload image files for a new creature. It says I need to be logged in even if I already am. It says:<br />
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A database query syntax error has occurred. This may indicate a bug in the software. The last attempted database query was:<br />
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(SQL query hidden)<br />
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from within function "User::idFromName". MySQL returned error "1142: SELECT command denied to user 'ddmediadb'@'localhost' for table 'wdd_user' (localhost)".<br />
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== Problem ==<br />
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This keeps happening when I try logging on.<br />
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Database error<br />
From D&D Wiki Media<br />
Jump to: navigation, search<br />
A database query syntax error has occurred. This may indicate a bug in the software. The last attempted database query was: <br />
(SQL query hidden)<br />
from within function "User::idFromName". MySQL returned error "1142: SELECT command denied to user 'ddmediadb'@'localhost' for table 'wdd_user' (localhost)".<br />
Retrieved from "http://media.dandwiki.com/wiki/Special:UserLogin"--[[Special:Contributions/69.144.80.54|69.144.80.54]] 23:12, 21 March 2010 (UTC)<br />
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== Wizard's on you'r a$$? ==<br />
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What's up? a lot of stuff I used to access I can't anymore. Such as weapon magic/creation rules.<br />
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Also gonna post my firearm rules for D&D 3.5<br />
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Later Phill<br />
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:See [[SRD:Creating Magic Items]]. -- [[User:Jota|Jota]] 03:57, 6 May 2010 (UTC)<br />
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== Spell page problems ==<br />
The Aiming a Spell line (target/targets/area/effect) on the spell pages (see [[SRD:Heal|Heal]]) is broken. —[[User:Edwin|edwin]] 13:32, 14 July 2010 (UTC)<br />
:Nevermind, I fixed the template to not use VariablesExtension (which is broken).—[[User:Edwin|edwin]] 16:33, 18 July 2010 (UTC)<br />
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== Could you look at my 4e race and critique, please? ==<br />
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== 4e Race Elf, Gray ==<br />
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:''Discussion moved to [[Talk:Elf, Gray (4e Race)#Comments]].'' <small>--[[User:Green Dragon|Green Dragon]] 13:04, 14 January 2011 (MST)</small><br />
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== tavern ==<br />
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Will you ever bring it back?<br />
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I used to love going in there and chatting with every one about all the D&D related issues i was having as a new DM. Now that it is gone I feel that a small piece of my self as left aswell.<br />
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please send your reply to my email backdizzy11@hotmail.com as im not sure when i will next log in here.<br />
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== Category ==<br />
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Should this really have the "race" category? --[[User:Axl|Axl]] 15:34, 25 December 2010 (MST)<br />
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== Please remove all my material from this wiki ==<br />
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I asked Green Dragon but he refuses. I would like all pages created by me to be deleted from this wiki. The reasons are personal and nobody's business but my own. Thank you for your cooperation. --<span style="font-size:90%;">[[User:ScryersEve|<span title="User page of Scryer's Eve"><span style="color:#006565;">Scryer's</span> <span style="color:#db6700;">Eve</span></span>]] <sup>([[User_talk:ScryersEve|<span style="color:#0053BF!important;" title="Talk page of Scryer's Eve">talk</span>]] | <span title="Contributions of Scryer's Eve">[[Special:Contributions/ScryersEve|<span style="small-caps;color:#0053BF!important;" title="Contributions of Scryer's Eve">contribs</span>]])</span></sup> 15:56, 26 March 2012 (MDT)</div>ScryersEvehttps://www.dandwiki.com/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Badger&diff=556770User talk:Badger2012-03-26T21:56:15Z<p>ScryersEve: /* Please remove all my material from this wiki */ new section</p>
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<div>{{Anti-Vandal Barnstar|For your help with finding vandal's edits, removing vandal's work, and helping keep D&D Wiki clean, I give you this Barnstar. Thanks for your help. --[[User:Green Dragon|Green Dragon]] 11:06, 4 November 2010 (MDT)}}<br />
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==Help (Creature Creation)==<br />
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Hey, I made my creature as best as I can using the template you showed me. For some reason it was not giving me the code usage for the special qualities and such on the basic page so I went and found a page that was using it. From there things seemed to work out. It now has its own page in the Creatures section... not completely sure as to which section since I just pressed add new creature. Anyway, I figured you would like to know how far I have made it, and that if nothing else you will know where to find it. Also, since you mentioned you might chime in and give suggestions and such when you get to look at it. [[Dimidium_Troll_(3.5e_Creature)|Dimidium Troll]] Also, it seems that I have figured out how to link into pages as well. You are a good teacher, thanks for the instruction! --[[User:Lyrad8791|Lyrad8791]] 22:56, 4 January 2011 (MST)<br />
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==Question (Dealing with Spam)==<br />
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I have left a similar message on Green Dragons Talk page but I figure I should be thorough with this. It seems there are a few Users that are posting spam and doing a redirect for their User page to the mentioned Spam. One instance is this link [[Best_Electronic_Cigarette_Review |here]]. I don't know the procedure for deleting spam so I am asking you and the owner. I was just wondering if I should just mention it and leave be or if I should delete the contents of the page since I don't know how I would delete the page itself. [[User:Lyrad8791|Lyrad8791]] 23:57, 8 January 2011 (MST)<br />
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:Well, the long and the short of it is you shouldn't probably bother to do anything. Only Admins can totally delete a page. Likewise, only admins can ban a user. Whenever I come across spam, I blank the page, and then add a delete template. After that, I save changes with something like "Delete this spam" in the edit summary. Usually Jazzman is pretty good about catching these and deleting them for real. I don't know the official site policy on users handling spam, but no one has asked me to stop, so I still do it. One thing, however, is to make sure that the page never had any content on it. We don't want to delete a page that once had content, just because it now has spam. Like I said, us users can't do much in the way of permanent change (that's the admin's job), so if you want to turn a blind eye, no one will blame you. However, if you delete a bunch, someone might give you a nifty little barnstar like I have at the top of this page. --[[User:Badger|Badger]] 00:02, 9 January 2011 (MST)<br />
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== Help (Creating an Animal) ==<br />
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So... you mentioned something about tables and things like that? i did find what each thing means ( [[Template:d20M_Creature|d20M Creature]] ) but what i need is the stuff it lists in the examples please. -[[User:Ozzy1234567890|Ozzy1234567890]] 11:06, 24 January 2011 (MST)<br />
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:Well, [[d20_Modern_Creatures|here]] is a link to every homebrew d20M creature. One of them is bound to have examples of what you need. Jazzman left a comment on one of your messages with some suggestions of how he would do it. You might want to check that out. --[[User:Badger|Badger]] 12:17, 24 January 2011 (MST)<br />
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::Might [[Creature Types (MSRD)#Animal|this]] be what you are looking for? [[User:Jazzman831|Jazz]][[User talk:Jazzman831|Man]] 12:22, 24 January 2011 (MST)<br />
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:::It's exacly what I needed. Thanks for the help! --[[User:Ozzy1234567890|Ozzy1234567890]] 10:53, 25 January 2011 (MST)<br />
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== Help (4e Community) ==<br />
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Hey Badger,<br />
Do you know anyone who's really good at making D&D 4e stuff, but is also good at changing 4e stuff (you know, like, changing monsters from the monster manual)? --[[User:Axl|Axl]] 22:11, 1 February 2011 (MST)<br />
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:Well, I'll be honest, I don't know how active they are anymore, but [[User:Sepsis|Sepsis]] has done quite a bit of 4e work (and is an admin here, so he might still be active-ish). For some reason I want to say [[User:Sam_Kay|Sam Kay]] also knows 4e a bit, but I don't think he's active on this wiki much anymore (again, I could be wrong on both points). Those are the two names that spring to mind, but I want to be clear that I don't know how much (if any) help then can/will be. --[[User:Badger|Badger]] 22:21, 1 February 2011 (MST)<br />
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::Thanks for trying to help. But the reason was actually to help me with my Pumped Up [[Pumped Up (4e Sourcebook)|sourcebook]]. But I'm deleting it now. Sorry for bothering you. --[[User:Axl|Axl]] 21:30, 16 March 2011 (MDT)<br />
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:::No problem, I'm here to help. --[[User:Badger|Badger]] 00:54, 30 May 2011 (MDT)<br />
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==Help (Sandboxes)==<br />
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Hey badger it is Dj00345. I wanted to ask you if there is a way to create ur own sandbox? I wanted to create one myself and don't know how to?... Can u help me out and explain how to make one??<br />
[[User:Dj00345|Dj00345]].<br />
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:It's really easy, just add a /sandbox after your username, for example [[User:Dj00345/sandbox]]. You can put anything on the page, so sandbox, or sandbox1, or ninja_of_the_winterlands, or whatever you want. If you go to that page you'll be prompted to make a new page with that name. It's easy. --[[User:Badger|Badger]] 13:31, 1 March 2011 (MST)<br />
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==Help (Pictures)==<br />
hey badger. it is me Dj00345. i just added a image to one of my pages. and the picture is too big. how do i make it small enough to fit on the page??? can you help me at all??? the page is called [[Zendra (3.5e Deity)|Zendra]]. please help me..... [[User:Dj00345|Dj00345]] 17:42, 3 March 2011 (MST)<br />
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:I went ahead and changed the size. Check out the code and you can learn for next time. You can change the text by editing the code. You can change the size of the picture by increasing or decreasing the pixels. --[[User:Badger|Badger]] 17:53, 3 March 2011 (MST)<br />
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::Thx. Got it now! ;) [[User:Dj00345|Dj00345]] 10:14, 6 March 2011 (MST)<br />
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==Help (Stubs)==<br />
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Hey one more question.... If I want to help finish a STUB page, do I just go ahead and edit it, or do I have to wait for someone to give me an answer??? [[User:Dj00345|Dj00345]] 10:14, 6 March 2011 (MST)<br />
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:I usually check to see when the stub template was added, how long the page has gone un-edited, and if the original author is still around. If it looks like no one else is going to do it, just jump right in. On pages that are a little more complete, and just missing little things here and there, it might be better to leave a message on the talk pages with your suggested changes, and give the community a week or so to talk about it. --[[User:Badger|Badger]] 12:10, 6 March 2011 (MST)<br />
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::And if I finish what the stub template says needs to be fixed,, do i remove the template??? [[User:Dj00345|Dj00345]] 17:53, 6 March 2011 (MST)<br />
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:::I assume you're asking about Dhampir, which just needs another adventurer? Yeah, that you can just add whenever you think of one, and remove the stub template when you do. --[[User:Badger|Badger]] 18:05, 6 March 2011 (MST)<br />
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::::Alrighty then. Thx again. And yes I am asking about dhampir [[User:Dj00345|Dj00345]] 18:33, 6 March 2011 (MST)<br />
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:::::I ended up removing [[Template:Stub]] from the [[Dhampir (4e Race)|dampir]]. See the history for what the edit was. --[[User:Green Dragon|Green Dragon]] 18:39, 6 March 2011 (MST)<br />
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== Question (User Creation Log) ==<br />
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hey badger. i was just looking around on the Wiki and ended up in the User Creation log. where it shows every account that has been created. i went down to the date i helped my friend get an account on this wiki and saw it. then i went to December dates to see if my account was there. (i was bored and wanted to see). Apparently, my account i guess doesn't exist... i didnt see my account name anywhere in there... '''Is That A Good Thing or A Bad Thing.???????''' Please answer..... [[User:Dj00345|Dj00345]] 20:15, 11 March 2011 (MST)<br />
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:Huh, that's interesting. Well, do you recall creating an account? It does appear that you never made one, but you are certainly logged in and making edits. To make an account you need to log in. If you log in and make edits, you should have an account. I don't know what's going on, I'd ask Green Dragon if you're concerned. --[[User:Badger|Badger]] 20:36, 11 March 2011 (MST)<br />
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::Well see. I made an account. I guess it didn't recognize it. I didn't get the message that green dragon sends to you saying that you are now a dnd wikian. I never got that message... [[User:Dj00345|Dj00345]] 09:54, 12 March 2011 (MST)<br />
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:::That's not an automated message, GD goes through and does those manually, so it's possible he just missed you. If you have an options menu at the top right corner of the screen that says "Dj00345, my talk, my preferences, my watchlist, my contributions, logout" you're probably a member and the site is just a little hinky. --[[User:Badger|Badger]] 12:40, 12 March 2011 (MST)<br />
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::::Yeah I have all those. So it must be some sort of glitch maybe...? [[User:Dj00345|Dj00345]] 12:43, 12 March 2011 (MST)<br />
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:::::Yeah, as far as I can tell you're a full-blooded wikian, and the wiki is just screwing up. If you're concerned you can leave a message on Green Dragon's talk page, either asking him there, or directing him to this conversation. --[[User:Badger|Badger]] 12:46, 12 March 2011 (MST)<br />
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::::::I'm not really concerned. i was just making sure that the wiki wasn't screwed up or anything. i was just keeping an eye out. thx for the help badger! [[User:Dj00345|Dj00345]] 14:57, 12 March 2011 (MST)<br />
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:::::::Oh, the wiki screws up all the time. This isn't anything major, so I wouldn't worry about it. --[[User:Badger|Badger]] 15:46, 12 March 2011 (MST)<br />
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== Question (Multi-classing) ==<br />
Alright, so I think I'm doing this right. And I suppose this will be the first question I will ask, is it possible to go back to a class that specifically says you can't after multiclassing? Even if the class you multiclass with says you can? (Sorry if you don't understand or if this seems stupid.)--[[User:Raem|Raem]] 17:35, 12 March 2011 (MST)<br />
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:First, yeah, you did everything correctly. Now, let me try to understand your question. I think if the 2nd class explicitly says "you can multi-class, even if your first class says you cannot" then you ''can''. However, if the 2nd class ''doesn't'' say that, you're out of luck. That said, it's really up to your DM. --[[User:Badger|Badger]] 17:42, 12 March 2011 (MST)<br />
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== Help (Campaign Creation) ==<br />
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Hey badger! Dj00345. I have a question. I'm thinking of making my own campaign setting and was just wondering where to go in order to create the "Supplement" pages for it??? I took a look at the "Valgora" campaign setting and it's edit stuff. And noticed that the links said '''Valgora supplement'''. Where do I go to make one of those pages except under a different campaign setting of course... [[User:Dj00345|Dj00345]] 13:57, 5 April 2011 (MDT)<br />
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:Oh, well, as far as I know there is no official formatting for creating campaign settings. This little box might make it easier to add to a campaign setting, just replace "MyPage" with the name of your page, and "MySetting" with the name of your setting:<br />
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<!-----Campaign Setting-----><br />
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<inputbox><br />
type=create<br />
break=no<br />
buttonlabel=Create New Page for Campaign Setting<br />
default=MyPage (MySetting Supplement)<br />
preload=<br />
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:If you'd like, I'm sure someone can help you making a footer/header for your campaign setting and using it as a preload. My guess is Hooper would be the guy to ask about that, as I think Valgora is his setting, and you seem to like that one. --[[User:Badger|Badger]] 18:30, 5 April 2011 (MDT)<br />
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== Help (Class Creation)==<br />
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Hello it was recomended to me that you might be able to help me with a concept. You see me and my friends are planning to start a DnD 3.5 OP campaign (so crazy templates etc...) But im new to dnd so I have no idea how to make the class/template/race I wanted. the concept I came up with was a ''Prototype'' character based off of the game prototype for the xbox 360. Im not quite sure weither it would be a class a template or a race. So I was wondering if you could help me make it? (or make it for me)? -- [[User:Grunt|Grunt]] 17:03, 25 April 2011 (MDT)<br />
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:Well, let me begin by saying I've never played Prototype, so I probably can't help you with much. However, here's how I'd recommend you try it. <br />
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:If you want to use existing classes, here's what I'd suggest: I don't know if you're familiar with [[UA:Gestalt_Characters|gestalt characters]], but that's what I'd recommend. Basically, you combine the best parts of two classes into one super-class. I'd recommend something like a [[Psion]] with an emphasis in psychometabolism, or maybe psychokinesis. From there, I'd make your other class something that would work well with the abilities of your psion, so maybe rogue. I like rogues a lot, so maybe I'm just biased. It sounds like a barbarian might also work well. Since you're going for overpowered, I think a gestalt [[Psion]]/[[Barbarian,_Tome_(3.5e_Class)|Tome Barbarian]] would best approximate what you're looking for.<br />
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:However, if you're looking to create your own homemade material, here's what I'd suggest: Start with a beefy Hit Die, like a d10, give yourself medium or good Base attack bonus(like the rogue or fighter), good fortitude and reflex saves (+12 at 20) and bad will saves (+6 at 20). After that, I'd give yourself a limited spell list, pulling your favorite spells from psionics, and use Constitution instead of Intelligence for the key ability. After that, add on a bunch of heavy hitting power class skills, using classes like [[Threat_(3.5e_Class)|Threat]], [[Barbarian,_Tome_(3.5e_Class)|Tome Barbarian]], and maybe even [[Death_Knight_(DnD_Prestige_Class)|Death Knight]] for ideas.<br />
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:I hope this helps. --[[User:Badger|Badger]] 17:03, 25 April 2011 (MDT)<br />
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== Hey Badger ==<br />
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Hey, Badger.<br />
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:Hi. --[[User:Badger|Badger]] 18:42, 15 May 2011 (MDT)<br />
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yo what up badger think i could get u to take a look at the mage of earthsea class again?? give me a few more pointers?<br />
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==ty [[User:La Mortis|La Mortis]]==<br />
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== Help (Campaign Settings) ==<br />
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You asked if I wanted help, I do.<br />
I go straigh to the point.<br />
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I would want to make an own:<br />
#make a page with the info about classes "and the world" and "how to make a class character".<br />
#Then put a link to it in the Classes.<br />
#make links that change pages adn scrolls down to an article. <br />
#learn to make footers<br />
#page for my classes that are adapted for my campaign setting.<br />
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::I've numbered each of the questions you have, and I'll answer them in order. Let me know if you need more detail on any of them<br />
::1. If you want to make a page about classes for your Campaign Setting, just make a standard page for your Campaign setting. If you want, you can use the "Add New Campaign Setting Info" thing that I made [[User_talk:Badger#Help_.28Campaign_Creation.29|here]]. As far as I know there is no codified pre-load for this, so you can just model it off a page that you like, or do it on your own. <br />
::2. Putting a link to it is just like adding any other link. You simply type this code: <nowiki> [[Name_Of_Page | Display Text]]</nowiki>.<br />
::For example, you would probably make the pages named "Classes_(MyCampaign_Supplement)", so your code would say: <nowiki>[[Classes_(MyCampaign_Supplement) | Classes in MyCampaign]]</nowiki>. Naturally, you'll want to replace "MyCampaign" with whatever the name of your campaign is. <br />
::3. Making links that link to a specific section is also pretty easy. You use the same format that you used above for creating a link, and to link to a particular section, you put a #SectionName after the name of the page. For example, if you wanted to make a link to this section, you would write " <nowiki>[[User_Talk:Badger#Help_(Campaign Settings) | Display Text]]</nowiki>.<br />
::4. Making footers is as easy as making a page. First you make a page and put on it whatever you want the footer to say. Name the page something like "Navigation Footer (MyCampaign Supplement)". After that, you just have to include that page at the bottom of every page you want a footer. Only, this time, instead of using brackets like you normally use for a link (These: "[[]]"), use braces (These: "{{}}")<br />
::5. Again, just make a page that's name ends with (MyCampaign Supplement), and put a list of classes and changes. You may find it is easier to make full on tables to show changes, or just text lists of changes. It's up to you.<br />
::One last note, as helpful as I may be with this, [[User:Hooper]] is probably better. He is the one who rates most of the campaign settings, and he is the one who has one of the most complete campaign settings on this wiki. --[[User:Badger|Badger]] 16:47, 30 May 2011 (MDT)<br />
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== For Identification Purposes? ==<br />
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Ok now i'm curious why you moved my page... made it loads of fun to try and find it through my simple input of the address it was sitting at without the variant 3.5 mumbo jumbo.<br />
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I'm just curious why you did it, I understand that there WAS a Dragoon class that was made and deleted for whatever reason... That's why i made it a Dragoon Lancer, there was someone who made a Dragoon that i thought was totally whacked out on ADnD and well I felt it needed a do-over, pouring through the books i found a nice combination that is actually based on pre-existing 3.0 and 3.5 edition material, short of some attack/ Wings purposes it is all based on the rules. I think it works marvelously and when i find the actual balance i would really hope people start picking it up. It was one of my favorite classes in FF Tactics, short of the huge error in missing people because they moved while you were in the air (Huge disappointment there) but getting back on track. I would appreciate a simple explanation, and well some feedback would be nice since you seem to have been the ONLY person on here who has done anything of note to my Dragoon Lancer.<br />
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James<br />
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:Badger didn't mean any offense. All homebrew pages are (supposed to be) appended with an identifying tag such as (3.5e Creature) or (d20M Advanced Class). [[User:Jazzman831|Jazz]][[User talk:Jazzman831|Man]] 19:14, 7 June 2011 (MDT)<br />
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::Yep, Jazzman summed it up. Sorry for any confusion it may have caused. There should have been a redirect from the old URL to the updated one, I don't know why that wasn't working (but it appears to be working now). I've not actually read the page, but since my vacation has just begun I'll get around to it (sooner or later) and leave some thoughts on the talk page. Once again, sorry for any confusion or trouble this may have caused; I was just following policy.--[[User:Badger|Badger]] 20:24, 7 June 2011 (MDT)<br />
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::: Well i was really just curious as to the why... since it really didn't seem to have been a part of any of the other classes that i looked at. I have been going through and trying to reflect any changes i've come across and would really like some insight anyone has. [[User:Gainesja|Gainesja]] 04:34, 12 June 2011 (EST)<br />
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::::People are really, really, really, bad about adding those tags, so I'm sure there are many pages floating around that don't have them yet. Though more pages have them than not, so if you haven't seen any yet you must just be really lucky. [[User:Jazzman831|Jazz]][[User talk:Jazzman831|Man]] 07:40, 12 June 2011 (MDT)<br />
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:::::I think on that day alone I moved like 3 or 4 other classes and deities. It's just something I do every so often, when I notice a few pages in the recent changes need it. --[[User:Badger|Badger]] 10:27, 12 June 2011 (MDT)<br />
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==Admin Nomination==<br />
I hope that you accept the recent nomination for adminship that has been activated for you. Please go to [[Requests for Adminship/Badger]] to reply to the nominee questions. I look forward to seeing the community's thoughts! &nbsp;<small><span style="border: 1px solid black; -moz-border-radius:10px">[[User:Hooper|'''<span style="background-color:White; color:Black; -moz-border-radius-topleft:10px; -moz-border-radius-bottomleft:10px"> Hooper </span>''']][[User talk:Hooper|<span style="background-color:Black; color:white; -moz-border-radius-bottomleft:10px; -moz-border-radius-topleft:10px">&nbsp;&nbsp;talk&nbsp;&nbsp;</span>]][[Special:Contributions/Hooper|<span style="background-color:black; color:white">&nbsp;&nbsp;contribs&nbsp;&nbsp;</span>]][[Special:Emailuser/Hooper|<span style="background-color:black; color:white; -moz-border-radius-bottomright:10px; -moz-border-radius-topright:10px">&nbsp;&nbsp;email&nbsp;&nbsp;</span>]]</span></small> 06:10, 19 June 2011 (MDT)<br />
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:Thank you for your nomination, as well as your support. I accept the nomination, and I look forward to continuing to contribute to the community, either as a administrator, or as a user. --[[User:Badger|Badger]] 20:09, 19 June 2011 (MDT)<br />
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::Welcome to Adminship. You are now part of "The Face" of D&D Wiki. Honestly, as you will notice, not much has been changed now that you are an admin. If anything, I would say more burden is placed on you. I recommend you take a look at [[Special:ListGroupRights]] if you have not already. Some of the the new features' uses pertaining to D&D Wiki follow. You can now delete pages, protect pages, rollback edits, block users and IP's, edit every page, patrol edits, and do a couple more minor things.<br />
::*Deleting pages is normally done through [[:Category:Candidates for Deletion]]. Anything with a good reason to be deleted on that page should be deleted. The other time pages should be deleted is when someone makes a certain page and after a few edits they either blank the page or replace it with something like "Please delete this". If this page consisted of close to just the preload, just delete it.<br />
::*Protecting pages has quite a few different times when it should be used. Pages should be protected according to the author's wishes (with [[Template:Locked Page]] added to the top of the page in question), in case of conflict (with [[Template:Temp Locked Page]] added to the top of the page in question), in case of [[Help:FAQ#What are OGL, OGC, SRD, and GNU FPL?|OGC]] published materials (with [[Template:OGL Top]] added to the top of the page in question and [[Template:OGL Bottom]] added to the bottom), or finally if the page is a vital part of D&D Wiki's organization. If it deals with D&D Wiki's organization it either needs to be be protected from IP edits or all non-sysop edits. As a rule of thumb pages up to two tiers deep (up for discussion/rethinking) from the [[Main Page]] are normally locked to anyone but sysops and all the others are just protected from IP edits. For Example [[3.5e Homebrew]] is protected from all non-sysop edits whereas a deeper in page like [[LA 0 Races]] is only protected from IP edits. No template needs to be added to pages if they are part of D&D Wiki's organization (even though some do exist like [[Template:Admin Locked Page]])<br />
::*Blocking a user or IP should only be used after an IP or user vandalizes a certain page. To block someone just click "block" (found on [[Special:Recentchanges|RC]], the diff in question, the userpage, etc) and fill out the corresponding form. For a typical vandalism attack I normally block the user for two weeks. Certain things demand a longer block and others a shorter. No standards have been set for block lengths, use your best judgment.<br />
::*Editing every page on D&D Wiki mostly means you can now edit the [[SRD:System Reference Document|SRD]] and the [[MSRD:Modern System Reference Document|MSRD]]. Feel free to edit them if inaccuracies are found. If interested further please look at the [[SRD Talk:System Reference Document#SRD ToDo List|SRD ToDO List]] or the [[MSRD Talk:Modern System Reference Document#Tasks|MSRD tasks]]. Of course that is only the base. There is never enough help to get everything done, so I am sure your help would be appreciated.<br />
::*Patrolling edits should, in a nutshell, be used when you have looked over an edit and fixed everything that needs to be fixed (this includes reviewing the content with templates, answering questions, etc).<br />
::I know this is really long-winded, so I'll keep the rest short. You have more burden on yourself now that you are an admin because users will be looking at you for editing help, knowledge of the standards, etc. It's a bit more work, but I really hope you enjoy being an admin and I hope you decide to stay around on D&D Wiki for a while more to come. Welcome to Adminship, again you're now part of "The Face" of D&D Wiki. --[[User:Green Dragon|Green Dragon]] 12:58, 26 June 2011 (MDT)<br />
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== Modifiers Added, But for future refrence, ==<br />
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what are the modifiers to use? Class, Prestige Class, NPC, Monster, Equipment, Campaign, Quest, Deity, Trait, Flaw, Feat, Spell, Race are the ones i can think of, am i missing any? Also, Is there a way i can set a page to only accept changes that I approve?<br />
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:I've corrected the spelling of the modifiers above (and added a few more). Those are all the ones I can think of off the top of my head (and all the major ones), but I am sure there are more obscure ones. As for your second question, no there is not. However, you can use the "watch" tab, at the top of each page, and any changes that are made to that page will show up in the "my watchlist" page linked in the top right corner of the page (when you're logged in). You can click on "diff" to see the changes made in each edit. This is about as close as you can get to what you want. --[[User:Badger|Badger]] 19:26, 14 July 2011 (MDT)<br />
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== Hi I was interested in joining the D&D WIKI but it seams your create account is broken ==<br />
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Hi, I was trying to find the webmaster but didn't see a link to leave a message for one. Maybe you can forward this on to her/him/them.<br />
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Anyway, I went to create an account and tried to make an account but it seams to be broken. A box keeps popping up saying type two words to in to prevent span but the silly thing just keeps cycling and won't go away to let you create the account. I tried at least a dozen times to get past it but always comes back. Very frustrating!<br />
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And now the fool thing shows up trying to post this message.<br />
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:Does it mention it is related to CloudFlare ([[D&D Wiki:General disclaimer]])? --[[User:Green Dragon|Green Dragon]] 17:05, 30 July 2011 (MDT)<br />
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::If you can give me the exact error message you're getting, that would help immensely. What name are you trying to register? Is it possible that someone has already registered that name? Green Dragon, who responded above me, is the owner/operator of the website, so he's probably your best bet for a fix. --[[User:Badger|Badger]] 00:37, 31 July 2011 (MDT)<br />
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== Thank You ==<br />
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I wished to thank you for your recent remarks on my page. And to acknowledge your intrinsic and direct approach.<br />
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:Any time? But seriously, I have no idea who you are or what page you're talking about (I've been a whirlwind of edits these past few days), but you're welcome. Let me know if there's anything else you need. In the future, don't forget to sign your posts with <nowiki>--~~~~</nowiki> or by pressing the signature button. --[[User:Badger|Badger]] 18:51, 24 August 2011 (MDT)<br />
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::Your deletion of a page was most appreciated.<br />
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:::Oh, well, glad I could help. --[[User:Badger|Badger]] 19:19, 24 August 2011 (MDT)<br />
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::::Could you extend your gracious policy upon a few of my other incomplete works?<br />
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:::::Policy says that we're supposed to wait at least 2 weeks before deleting anything. If I've deleted anything sooner than that, I apologize. Most of our to-be-deleted content is months, if not years old, though (so you should have plenty of time). If your content has a delete template, I'll check on the history, and if it looks like you're making progress on it, I'll give it time. If you give me the links you want me to keep an eye out for, I'll get around to checking on them later. Also, if I delete anything that you'd like back, I think can restore it easily (I've never tried, but I know I should be able to). --[[User:Badger|Badger]] 19:29, 24 August 2011 (MDT)<br />
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::::::I understand. I would like 75% of all my work deleted (noting most is incomplete, and I have no wish to complete 75%). I have only a few articles here; and have a desire to complete the 25%. The other work only hurts my prestige.<br />
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:::::::Right, well, place the code <nowiki>{{delete|~~~~~|Author has abandoned.}}</nowiki> to the top of every incomplete page you don't want to keep, and I'll delete them as I get around to them. --[[User:Badger|Badger]] 19:45, 24 August 2011 (MDT)<br />
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::::::::It is finished.<br />
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:::::::::Is there a reason that you're signing out and not signing your comments when leaving a message to me, but logging in to edit your pages? You're not trying to hide your identity, are you? --[[User:Badger|Badger]] 20:00, 24 August 2011 (MDT)<br />
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::::::::::No. I simply wanted to make sure you were interested before damming the pages. --[[User:Frankenkesey|Frankenkesey]] 20:12, 24 August 2011 (MDT)<br />
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:::::::::::Well, it's not policy to delete pages just because the author doesn't want them anymore. Arguably you should be using the "abandoned" template instead, but I've never seen anyone adopt one of those pages and fix it up, so I don't know that it's a very useful template (although it's a good idea). It's my personal belief that we should just delete unfinished and unusable material, rather than letting it stick around as abandoned for years. If your pages don't have enough content for someone else to take and finish up, I'll delete them. However, if they have enough already, I'll swap out delete with abandoned. --[[User:Badger|Badger]] 20:12, 24 August 2011 (MDT)<br />
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::::::::::::This maxim sounds fair. --[[User:Frankenkesey|Frankenkesey]] 20:15, 24 August 2011 (MDT)<br />
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== Master of the twin paths ==<br />
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Just created the "Master of the twin paths" for 3.5e custom prestige classes. It was moved to "formatting issues" soon after.<br />
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My question is simple, is now officially removed or is it waiting to be checked? If it is removed, how may I improve it to have it added to the homebrew category it fits.<br />
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Also how do I format it correctly?<br />
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with many thanks,<br />
Ryulin18<br />
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You're doing a great job<br />
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:Right, well, good news! Master of the twin paths hasn't been removed, it was just moved (for a totally unrelated reason). You can find you creation [[Master_of_the_Twin_Paths_(3.5e_Prestige_Class)|here]]. <br />
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:First off, your page was moved to include an "identifer", which means I added "_(3.5e_Prestige_Class)" to the end of your class name. We use these to keep all our content straight, and every page is supposed to have one.<br />
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:If you check out other Prestige classes, like [[Animal_Lord_(3.5e_Prestige_Class)|this one]], you'll notice the bottom has a sort of footer that works as navigation, as well as some categories. You'll want to add those to your page (not those exact ones, but the ones that apply to your class). I'd search through other [[3.5e_Prestige_Classes|prestige classes]] until you find one that seems like yours, and check out what categories you'll want to include. Let me know if you need anything else. --[[User:Badger|Badger]] 19:18, 24 August 2011 (MDT)<br />
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== Tavern ==<br />
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If it existed, you should get on it right now. But it doesn't so... [[User:Jazzman831|Jazz]][[User talk:Jazzman831|Man]] 13:37, 28 August 2011 (MDT)<br />
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== Master of the twin paths - Part 2 ==<br />
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Okay. I have added breadcrumbs and the categories! Is it okay now?<br />
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Any advice to get it finished?<br />
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much thanks, Ryulin<br />
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:Alright, well, the cats and breadcrumbs look a lot better now. The next thing I'd say is fluff. Everything always needs more fluff. Well, almost everything. Check out a featured article like [[Deviant_(3.5e_Class)|this one]] for notes on making your page better. If you're committed enough, you can turn your page into a featured article. --[[User:Badger|Badger]] 13:53, 28 August 2011 (MDT)<br />
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== Apologies ==<br />
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Hi Badger,<br />
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I realized that I took my trolling too far yesterday. Seriously, I'm not a jerk like that usually. I have just been using this website as out outlet, so to speak, which is pretty immature. Anyways, I've decided to quit my trolling here altogether and also to stop harboring resentment for Green Dragon and Hooper.<br />
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In the case of Green Dragon, I realized that teasing him may have been fun, it really was a childish way to burn off steam over real life issues.<br />
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In the case of Hooper, I realized that he's just like a lot of other D&D players I've met and gotten along with: he's got a strong personality and reflects that with strong opinions. And really, that's a good thing, not a bad thing. Unfortunately, I let situations where I saw him butt horns with other users sway me to dislike him.<br />
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I was logged into a chatroom that both of you were in last night (although I was afk), and although most of your conversation was cut off, I realized that I was being pretty stupid and you are decent guys.<br />
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So, my apologies to you (and Hooper), for the nonsense I stirred up. Cheers. --[[User:Aarnott|Aarnott]] 08:15, 31 August 2011 (MDT)<br />
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:From my administrator standpoint: That was mean, you shouldn't do that. I have half a mind to ban you here and now, regardless of policy.<br />
:From my human being standpoint: Ehh, just don't do it again. <s>At least, not on important pages.</s> I probably over-reacted in my message asking you to cut it out. It wasn't really that big of a deal. No hard feelings, at least on my end. It is my suspicion, though I can't speak for him, that Hooper also thought it was no big thing. --[[User:Badger|Badger]] 14:02, 31 August 2011 (MDT)<br />
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== Master of the twin paths - Part 3 ==<br />
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Added all the fluff I dare to. Can you give me an idea of what to do next before I can have this page legitimized (I'm an English teacher, so using a z there hurt) and sent to my DM?<br />
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I really want this rated...Anyone want to do it?<br />
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== Hey Badger ==<br />
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I saw that you Changed the name of my raze Urgalz to Urgalz (3.5e Race) I forgot to do that and I just wanted to thank you for that. I looked at your the classes that you created and I do sai that the Hooker (3.5e class) is kinda funny at least i haven't lauged so much when I looked at some class. --Baharas 05:54, 16 September 2011 (MDT)<br />
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:Well, thank you; I'm pretty proud of that Hooker class, even though it's a April Fools class. Don't worry about missing that identifier, lot's people get it wrong the first few times, just try to include it for all the future pages you make. If you've already made pages without identifiers, you can use the "move" tab at the top of that page to move it to a page with the correct identifier. Welcome to the wiki. --[[User:Badger|Badger]] 18:09, 16 September 2011 (MDT)<br />
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::yeah I noticed when you moved it how to change it and I just noticed that you were a admin so congratulation for that :P <br />
::and I want to ask you: I am creating a class named [[Guardian, Variant2 (3.5e Class)]] why does this look like this?<br />
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:::When the page says "remove this entire line" it means that entire line of text from the edit window, not just everything after it says "remove this line" (so also delete the bit that says <nowiki><nowiki><!- REMOVE THIS ENTIRE LINE</nowiki>). I've fixed it for you, but you can see what I did by checking out [http://www.dandwiki.com/w/index.php?title=Guardian,_Variant2_(3.5e_Class)&diff=next&oldid=535771 this diff]. Also, don't forget to sign your posts by typing <nowiki>--~~~~</nowiki> at the end of your message, or by hitting the signature button in the toolbar (the one that looks like a bunch of loops, second from the end).--[[User:Badger|Badger]] 13:59, 19 September 2011 (MDT)<br />
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::::yeah sorry about that forgot and thanks for helping me :P --[[User:Baharas|Baharas]] 02:26, 20 September 2011 (MDT)<br />
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:::::No worries, that's why I'm here. Kinda. Mostly. It's why I enjoy being here at least. --[[User:Badger|Badger]] 02:34, 20 September 2011 (MDT)<br />
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== Patronage Featured Article? ==<br />
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Hey, Badger. I've put in images on most of my pages for my [[Patronage (4e Campaign Setting)]]. Could you take a look and decide if more is needed to get your vote for Featured Article status?--[[User:Wrecan|Wrecan]] 16:42, 16 September 2011 (MDT)<br />
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:Wow. Those pages look so much better now with pictures, in my opinion. I've changed my vote on the FA nomination accordingly. Good work. --[[User:Badger|Badger]] 18:09, 16 September 2011 (MDT)<br />
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== Image ==<br />
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I just wanted to ask you how can I put Image on my races pages I tryed but it doesent work? --[[User:Baharas|Baharas]] 05:05, 29 September 2011 (MDT)<br />
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:Uh, well, let me first start by making sure the image you want to upload is legal. Assuming it is, what you have to do is type out <nowiki>[[File:Image_Name.jpg]]</nowiki> and save the changes. Once you've done that, your "image" will show up as a red link. Click on that link. It should take you to a page that will allow you to upload your chosen image. If you've already uploaded the image to our image server, it appear right away, rather than as a red link. If you can show me what image you want to upload, and where it needs to go, I can show you in more detail. As far as I know, that should work. Images tend to go a little wonky every so often, but they seem to be working just fine right now. --[[User:Badger|Badger]] 21:40, 29 September 2011 (MDT)<br />
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::well I tryed that but it didn't work and here is a link to the pic [http://browse.deviantart.com/?qh=&section=&q=barbarian#/d1k47mn] and I am trying to put it on [[Urgalz (3.5e Race)]] --[[User:Baharas|Baharas]] 03:53, 3 October 2011 (MDT)<br />
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::you don't have to do anything I found out what i was doing wrong and I finally uploaded pic on [[Urgalz (3.5e Race)]] and [[Knasari (3.5e Race)]] --[[User:Baharas|Baharas]] 05:51, 7 October 2011 (MDT)<br />
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== Copperwood permission ==<br />
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Hi from new account.<br />
I came across this wiki by accident and just happened to notice a message saying "awaiting permission from copperwood" for a couple of articles.<br />
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Well, I am the one and only copperwood. Those permissions have been waiting for about, ooh, 5 years ago! Bit of a long time, but I created the account on Wizards ages ago to submit those articles and haven't logged back in since they changed to 'D&D Insider'<br />
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If it matters, and the articles are still available, then you have my permission!<br />
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== Greetings Badger ==<br />
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Greeting Badger, this is Lyrad8791. We have talked a bit before on some of my stuff that I have submitted a while back. I was wondering if you had the time to take a look at my sandbox and tell me what you think about my charts there. I also have a second sandbox, which I have dedicated to my world that I am creating. Since the charts didn't fit in with the world itself, I left them in their current location. Anyway, I was hoping I might get some opinions on them, as well as some ideas on how to progress from where I am currently at in my project. If you can think of anyone else who might like to help or would be interested to see what I have thus far, send them over and have them leave a message in the discussion area of either page. The link to the charts is [[User:Lyrad8791/sandbox1#Town_Placement_Charts|here]] and the page for what I currently have on my world is [[User:Lyrad8791/sandbox2|here]]. Thanks for the time you took in reading this, and I hope to hear from you again. [[User:Lyrad8791|Lyrad8791]] 02:22, 21 October 2011 (MDT)<br />
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== Suggestions and rating help ==<br />
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Ello Badger!<br />
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(insert the badger song -> [http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EIyixC9NsLI])<br />
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Okay seriously, I need help with getting my custom prestige class rated and commented.<br />
I am a bit of an addict when it comes to feedback and I am having trouble finding the right places to create attention to my works.<br />
Also I have read the forms and guides to a good page but I am not sure I have every thing cowered.<br />
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Could you go my work over? Especially the warhammer 40K boltgun. Cant figure out a nice and fitting way of presenting all the upgrades and ammunition options available.<br />
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Thanks before hand from --<span style="font-family:albertus mt; font-variant:small-caps; margin-left:4px; border:2px solid #501010;"><span style="background:#CA2020; border:3px solid #7B0E0E; padding:0px 5px 0px 5px;">'''[[User:ElvenKingSlave|<span style="color:gold; font-size:75%;">ElvenKingSlave</span>]]'''&nbsp;<font color="white">&middot;</font>&nbsp;[[Exalted Wiki:Human|<span style="color:gold; font-size:75%;" title="I will drown you in daggers!">Weapons Summoner</span>]]&nbsp;<font color="white">&middot;</font>&nbsp;[[User talk:ElvenKingSlave|<span style="color:gold; font-size:75%;" title="Contact me">Talk</span></span>]]</span> 03:01, 28 November 2011 (MST)<br />
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[[http://www.dandwiki.com/wiki/Weapon_Summoner_(3.5e_Class)#Class_Features Weapon Summoner(3.5 class)]]<br><br />
[[http://www.dandwiki.com/wiki/Boltgun_(3.5e_Equipment) Boltgun(3.5 Equipment)]]<br><br />
[[http://www.dandwiki.com/wiki/Lasgun_(3.5e_Equipment) Lasgun(3.5 Equipment)]]<br><br />
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:Right, well, where to begin... <br />
:I'm gonna let you know right now, there are a lot of people on this wiki making content, and virtually no one reviewing it. I'd recommend trying to make connections with other users who seem to be pretty active, and set up a sort of co-op where you keep each other in the loop with your stuff, and constantly rate one another's stuff. I'd give your class a once over, but I'm more than swamped at the moment with real world things. I'll be honest, I've been away for so long now that I'm not even sure who is still very active on the wiki.<br />
:A quick once over says to me that you've done pretty well at formatting most of your stuff. There are a few things, like the NPC on your [[Weapon_Summoner_(3.5e_Class)|Weapon Summoner]] is wonky. My first edit, however, will have to be striking out your rating because you aren't allowed to rate your own stuff. Sorry, it's the rules.<br />
:Other than that, I don't know what to tell you. I'll be free in about two weeks. Send me another message then and I'll see what I can do for you. --[[User:Badger|Badger]] 17:44, 28 November 2011 (MST)<br />
::Thanks :D Thats all I am asking. --<span style="font-family:albertus mt; font-variant:small-caps; margin-left:4px; border:2px solid #501010;"><span style="background:#CA2020; border:3px solid #7B0E0E; padding:0px 5px 0px 5px;">'''[[User:ElvenKingSlave|<span style="color:gold; font-size:75%;">ElvenKingSlave</span>]]'''&nbsp;<font color="white">&middot;</font>&nbsp;[[Exalted Wiki:Human|<span style="color:gold; font-size:75%;" title="I will drown you in daggers!">Weapons Summoner</span>]]&nbsp;<font color="white">&middot;</font>&nbsp;[[User talk:ElvenKingSlave|<span style="color:gold; font-size:75%;" title="Contact me">Talk</span></span>]]</span> 07:15, 30 November 2011 (MST)<br />
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== My created items ==<br />
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Badger, could I get you to take a look at the Magic items I created and give me an opinion on them? My friends like them, but I think they are a bit biased. Any critiques would be welcome. They are all listed on my user page. Thanks again. --[[User:Irykyl| Irykyl]] 11:24, 6 March 2012 (MST)<br />
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== 2 things ==<br />
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First i would like you to know that i've have added 2 feats under the 3e Feats section (Ambidexterity and Armor Proficiency (Heavy))<br />
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also something seems to be wrong with sending a confirmation email to allow me to send messages to people.<br />
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== Please remove all my material from this wiki ==<br />
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I asked Green Dragon but he refuses. I would like all pages created by me to be deleted from this wiki. The reasons are personal and nobody's business but my own. Thank you for your cooperation. --<span style="font-size:90%;">[[User:ScryersEve|<span title="User page of Scryer's Eve"><span style="color:#006565;">Scryer's</span> <span style="color:#db6700;">Eve</span></span>]] <sup>([[User_talk:ScryersEve|<span style="color:#0053BF!important;" title="Talk page of Scryer's Eve">talk</span>]] | <span title="Contributions of Scryer's Eve">[[Special:Contributions/ScryersEve|<span style="small-caps;color:#0053BF!important;" title="Contributions of Scryer's Eve">contribs</span>]])</span></sup> 15:56, 26 March 2012 (MDT)</div>ScryersEvehttps://www.dandwiki.com/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Green_Dragon&diff=556054User talk:Green Dragon2012-03-22T20:40:20Z<p>ScryersEve: </p>
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== Rating Please ==<br />
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I have created a few classes, and I would very much appreciate if you could rate them for me. The classes are Mime (3.5e Class) and Soldier (3.5e Class), and Dragoon (by RDC) (3.5 PrC). <br />
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Thank you for your time, [[User:Rogue The Demonchild|Rogue The Demonchild]] 21:27, 12 January 2011 (MST)<br />
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== 4 Edition Summaries ==<br />
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Long time no see. I was wondering if I am allowed to put small summaries of the 4 edition races in my Campaign's races page. It would be name, size, stat bonus and racial features.<br />
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I am asking because the races I want to put in are rather small, and it seems strange to just have a couple of things on one page. The official 4 edition races would be for comparison. [[Celen Joad]] 11:05, 13 January 2011 (UTC)<br />
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:Of course. The official races, however, you can't add. --[[User:Green Dragon|Green Dragon]] 17:21, 28 January 2011 (MST)<br />
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== 4e Campaign Settings ==<br />
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:''Discussion moved to [[Talk:4e Campaign Settings#Organizational Structure]].'' <small>--[[User:Green Dragon|Green Dragon]] 11:21, 14 January 2011 (MST)</small><br />
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== 4e Giants, Devils, and Demons ==<br />
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Does anyone think that giants could become a race? --[[User:Axl|Axl]] 17:23, 26 January 2011 (MST)<br />
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:Does [[SRD:Giants, Hill (Race)|this]] & [[SRD:Giants, Stone (Race)|this]] help? --[[User:Milo v3|Milo High-Hill]] 18:57, 26 January 2011 (MST)<br />
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::Er, I mean for D&D 4e. Not 3.5e. Sorry. Do you think that even Devils and Demons could become races in 4e? --[[User:Axl|Axl]] 16:47, 28 January 2011 (MST)<br />
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:::I don't see why not. Some things may give you direction, ideas, and so forth. The [[Horned Devil (4e Race)|horned devil]] you created, the [[Cambion (4e Race)|cambion]], [[Infernal Blooded (4e Race)|infernal blooded]] relate to name a few. With regard to giants, [[Half-Giant (4e Race)|half-giant]], [[Hill Giant (4e Race)|hill giant]] may give you direction, ideas, and so forth to name a few. Does this help at all? --[[User:Green Dragon|Green Dragon]] 17:18, 28 January 2011 (MST)<br />
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::::Do you think that the horned devil is too powerful? --[[User:Axl|Axl]] 21:02, 28 January 2011 (MST)<br />
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:::::I took a look at it, and modified [[Template:Needsbalance]]'s reason. --[[User:Green Dragon|Green Dragon]] 21:39, 28 January 2011 (MST)<br />
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::::::Okay, I looked at it. Maybe, instead, I could make a paragon path that allows wings (I looked in the Player's Handbook 2 and it allows the dragonborn to have an overland flight speed of 12)? --[[User:Axl|Axl]] 21:49, 28 January 2011 (MST)<br />
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:::::::Is that a power though? If you make it something like a power, I imagine that would balance it. A paragon path with the same goal could give you flying results too. --[[User:Green Dragon|Green Dragon]] 22:02, 28 January 2011 (MST)<br />
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::::::::Well, at level 12, it allows you to make a brief flight. But at level 16, you gain the overland flight. But this is only if you choose that paragon path. --[[User:Axl|Axl]] 21:46, 29 January 2011 (MST)<br />
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:::::::::If you supply me a link I could take a look at it. --[[User:Green Dragon|Green Dragon]] 23:12, 6 April 2011 (MDT)<br />
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== Magician ==<br />
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I like the idea for the Magician class-is there a way to contact the author? {{Unsigned|Wonderer|17:12, 29 January 2011 (UTC)}}<br />
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:You'll have to give me more information. Which [[Magician|magician]] related content? --[[User:Green Dragon|Green Dragon]] 22:52, 6 April 2011 (MDT)<br />
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== Warning Policy Input ==<br />
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Hey Green Dragon. I was looking at [[Talk:Hill Giant (4e Race)|Talk:Hill Giant]]. Thank you for trying to keep profanity down, even name calling. --[[User:Axl|Axl]] 21:44, 29 January 2011 (MST)<br />
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:No problem. Do you think the revision history link is superfluous (and counter-productive)? Should the text be condensed? Thoughts? --[[User:Green Dragon|Green Dragon]] 22:44, 6 April 2011 (MDT)<br />
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::The history link... What do you mean by if it's superfluous? I don't think the text should be condensed. Well, lets see... Do you think that giants are really that bad? Can Giants wield Medium weapons? Also, Giants aren't readly accepted into society (they kinda have a bad reputation). Also, weapons cost more (if you get them from a non-giant source, and that's if they even '''want''' to make one for a giant that they know nothing about). --[[User:Axl|Axl]] 14:40, 9 April 2011 (MDT)<br />
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== Giants ==<br />
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Hey Green Dragon. I talked with my brother, and he said that bursts weren't that bad. Do you think that giants should be practically normal, but the user chooses whether to pick a power or a feature (you can only have one or the other; not both)? --[[User:Axl|Axl]] 15:07, 1 February 2011 (MST)<br />
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:I've never seen that used before, and it could make for confusion. I'd recommend just toning down the burst and the class feature, but bursts are interesting, I agree. --[[User:Green Dragon|Green Dragon]] 23:15, 6 April 2011 (MDT)<br />
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== 4e Sourcebook Pumped Up ==<br />
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:''Discussion moved to [[Talk:Pumped Up (4e Sourcebook)#Balance]].'' <small>--[[User:Green Dragon|Green Dragon]] 23:20, 6 April 2011 (MDT)</small><br />
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== Meaning of Meaningful Gestures? ==<br />
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Was reading [[Catgirl,_Domestic_(3.5e_Race)|Catgirls]], and was a tad jarred by the "Meaningful gesture" section under [[Catgirl,_Domestic_(3.5e_Race)#Names|Names]]. Without any explanations given for these gestures, is this meant to be presented as a "Interpret as you will" type listing, or was this something that was going to be expanded upon further? Using known data about real-life felines and fictional Japanese catgirls as a starting point, I have compiled a very extensive list of different Body Language messages which we use for a local Catgirl character, which you are more than welcome to use if you wish. I'll be watching this page for a response. {{Unsigned|96.229.186.168|07:39, 8 February 2011 (UTC)}}<br />
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:That is fine to add that to [[:Category:Catgirl|those pages]]. --[[User:Green Dragon|Green Dragon]] 17:02, 9 February 2011 (MST)<br />
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::Looks good! I added them to other related catgirl pages and moved it into the Relations section. --[[User:Green Dragon|Green Dragon]] 23:06, 6 April 2011 (MDT)<br />
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== Just another new guy asking around... ==<br />
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SO I've been told about the treasure trove of optional ideas that have been continuing the sprit of 3.5 by my newest D&D group and after a (strangely lucid) dream I came up with the following:<br />
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Spell Slayer<br />
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This +3 crystalline Mage Bane Longsword when wielded by a spell caster on impact allows the caster to make a DC 30 Spellcraft check.<br />
On a successful check the sword ether casts vampiric touch (as caster level 6, max 3 times per combat) OR, if the target is a spellcaster it <br />
steals one (1) random spell. Spells stolen this way are stored until the end of combat and are dispelled afterwards. A caster with the Arcane<br />
Strike feat may sacrifice spells stolen in this manner for the bonuses provided by the feat. (For cost see Holy Avenger)<br />
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Crystalline Weapon property<br />
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This material is primarily used to make weapons for and against spellcasters. It provides an additional (stacks with magical bonuses) equipment <br />
bonus +1 to hit and damage versus targets with magical abilities or properties (supernatural abilities or uncast spells are examples of this). <br />
In addition it provides a +1 to caster level for all spellcasters wielding or possessing such a weapon, hafted weapons do not confer the caster level bonus. All weapons crafted from Crystalline are considered master work. (For cost see Adamantine)<br />
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Now I don't want to post anything retardedly over powered up on the site (like some of the things I have seen/heard) and would like some advice before I throw it up on the site since I haven't seen a forum section (yet).<br />
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:The best way to get things looked at is to just take the plunge and create the page. If it is retardedly over-powered, people will tell you. Most people here will offer constructive criticism and will genuinely want to help you improve/complete/flesh out your 'fill in the blank'. Spelling and grammar checks are also staples of the site. PS. always remember to sign your comments by typing in two - followed by four ~. --[[User:Calidore Chase|Calidore Chase]] 03:29, 21 February 2011 (MST)<br />
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== Hello ==<br />
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Hey. Umm I'm just joined your site; I'm wondering if there is anything i should know (like guidelines for what and what not to post). I'm kind of wondering how to make classes. P.S.: I'm guessing those little #s in red and green are reputation points. --[[User:Knave67|Knave 67]] 00:19, 22 February 2011 (UTC)<br />
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:Classes for which edition? Any of the "create" boxes will use the correct preload if you use them, giving direction for the class. The preloads (some are listed [[Help:Standards and Formatting (DnD Guideline)#Preloads|here]]) should tell you what the class is. As everything is different in nature, telling you how something should be created is not possible. Of course guidelines exist, and [[DnD Guidelines]] may help you. Most things are balanced off similar things and, as mentioned above, if something is retardedly overpowered people will tell you. Does this help? Also what do you mean by the post scriptum you mentioned above? --[[User:Green Dragon|Green Dragon]] 18:18, 21 February 2011 (MST)<br />
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::He's probably talking about the recent changes log. If that's the case, the red and green numbers represent how many characters were subtracted or added during a page edit. [[User:Jazzman831|Jazz]][[User talk:Jazzman831|Man]] 19:15, 21 February 2011 (MST)<br />
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Oh okay I thought it was like a karma system or something along those lines. Also thank you Mr.Chartreuse Wyvern I wanted to make a class but it looks more complicated than a pictureless jigsaw puzzle so right now i'm just browsing the cite looking for boffo nuggets.<br />
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== new type of creature ==<br />
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Hello I'm working on a hybrid type. half giant red dragon. created by a crazy wizard, for would domination basically. however the creatures have morals and are therefore useless to him, so he abandons them. the creatures themselves would be fairly tall I'm think 7 - 8 an a half feet, strength and con bonuses with hits to car a level adjustment. any advice or an opinion on it would be greatly appreciated. {{Unsigned|Wytewulf|22:18, 24 February 2011 (UTC)}}<br />
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:As a [[3.5e Creature Templates|template]] (like the [[SRD:Half-Dragon]]), [[User Creature Glossary|new type]], or [[3.5e Races|race]]? Or what were you intending? --[[User:Green Dragon|Green Dragon]] 22:12, 1 March 2011 (MST)<br />
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== Can you create your own monster and how? ==<br />
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How do you make your own monster? Beacause I've always wanted to make my own "dragon-dillo" (armadillo & dragon combine). --[[User:Ja-Snake|Ja-Snake]] 19:56, 6 March 2011 (MST)<br />
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:See also "[[3.5e Creatures|Create new creature]]". Things like [[CR Estimation Table (DnD Guideline)]] may help. Does this answer your question? --[[User:Green Dragon|Green Dragon]] 20:18, 6 March 2011 (MST)<br />
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== Classes ==<br />
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Green Dragon, I am new to the d and d wiki community and i cant figure out how to create my own class. I know how to edit and change other classes if they ask for revising, but i want to be able to create my own. I would appreciate it a lot if you could either tell me how or if you could send me a link or something showing how.<br />
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Thank you for your time and consideration<br />
Playerdb<br />
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:Does [[Add New 3.5e Class]] cover your question? --[[User:Green Dragon|Green Dragon]] 22:42, 13 March 2011 (MDT)<br />
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== Deleting images ==<br />
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Can you delete a couple images for me? [http://www.dandwiki.com/wiki/File:Pyromancer.jpg this image] is copyrighted and [http://www.dandwiki.com/wiki/File:Imageremoved.jpg this image] was created instead to tell us that the first image was copyrighted. I don't seem to be able to delete them. [[User:Jazzman831|Jazz]][[User talk:Jazzman831|Man]] 06:53, 18 March 2011 (MDT)<br />
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:I can (and will later), however if you want to you can too. You can't do it on the page you supplied, you have to do it on media. So go to the file description page, [[dndmedia:File:Pyromancer.jpg]], (make sure your logged in) and delete it. --[[User:Green Dragon|Green Dragon]] 10:33, 18 March 2011 (MDT)<br />
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::Actually the only listed admins for media are you and Blue Dragon. [[User:Jazzman831|Jazz]][[User talk:Jazzman831|Man]] 12:08, 18 March 2011 (MDT)<br />
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:::Oh ya, huh. I'll try to get that dealt with sometime. And I deleted them by the way. --[[User:Green Dragon|Green Dragon]] 21:23, 18 March 2011 (MDT)<br />
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== update ==<br />
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Hey Green Dragon, you know the "create new equipment" in the D&D 4e equipment section? I think we should change it so that way it follows the 4e format. --[[User:Axl|Axl]] 21:05, 18 March 2011 (MDT)<br />
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:I agree. Do you have a specific idea for implementation? If so I would be more then willing to help you with it. --[[User:Green Dragon|Green Dragon]] 21:24, 18 March 2011 (MDT)<br />
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::[[User: Badger|Badger]] actually has a preload set up (it's how I've been posting 4e stuff on my sourcebook). The link is [[User:Badger/sandbox6|here]] --[[User:Axl|Axl]] 11:57, 26 March 2011 (MDT)<br />
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== Featured Article Nomination? ==<br />
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What do I have to do in order to get an article nominated? --[[User:Axl|Axl]] 12:33, 26 March 2011 (MDT)<br />
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:Um, never mind. --[[User:Axl|Axl]] 12:34, 26 March 2011 (MDT)<br />
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:See also [[Featured Articles#Featured Article Nominees]]. --[[User:Green Dragon|Green Dragon]] 15:39, 26 March 2011 (MDT)<br />
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== Not updating ==<br />
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Hey Green Dragon,<br />
:I tried to update the {{File:Marino.jpg}} picture, but it's not updating. It instead stays in it's previous form. --[[User:Axl|Axl]] 15:40, 28 March 2011 (MDT)<br />
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:okay. It seems that if I make the picture too big, it doesn't revert. --[[User:Axl|Axl]] 15:59, 28 March 2011 (MDT)<br />
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:Still. Could this be fixed? --[[User:Axl|Axl]] 16:09, 28 March 2011 (MDT)<br />
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== Deities secion ==<br />
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I was browsing through the 3.5e Deities section and I encountered multiple entries that were meant only as jokes. Thas is not suitable. This is the first time I use this Wiki, and all those prank articles didn't leave a very good impression. I wish to request an immediate clean-up in the Deities section and remove all fake deities. I understand it may be fun to add Ceiling Cat as a Deity but this kind of humor is not appropriate here.<br />
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:Did they have the April Fool Category? If so I think their ment to be their.--[[User:Milo v3|Milo High-Hill]] 06:10, 11 April 2011 (MDT)<br />
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:The 'Not Appropriate' part made me snicker a bit, honestly, as I had to consider whether D&D was serious business, for a moment. That said, it's just as easy to pass by the joke deities and move onto a real one. Until the number becomes far greater than the number of real deities, I say it is alright to leave it as it is. [[User:Jwguy|Jwguy]] 05:15, 10 July 2011 (MDT)<br />
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== Reploids ==<br />
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Hey Green Dragon,<br />
:Do you think that maybe I could add a feat to the [[Reploid (4e Race)|Reploid]] race that gives them automatic plate (I call it total armor) proficiency (even if they don't have proficiency with preceeding armors)? You might also want a look at the link I have up there to see if a fit would even be possible without taking anything out. --[[User:Axl|Axl]] 22:44, 13 April 2011 (MDT)<br />
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::Or do you think that there should just be metalized versions of the armors already set up in regular 4e? Thin metal for cloth armor, thicker armor for leather, etc. --[[User:Axl|Axl]] 23:08, 13 April 2011 (MDT)<br />
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== [[SRD:Bless Water]] ==<br />
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I think holy water in the spell text should be wikilinked. - [[User:BalthCat|BalthCat]] 04:29, 17 April 2011 (MDT)<br />
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== Adding Content ==<br />
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Hi I wanted to know if I could add on the magic items sections some of the info from more of the core books? and if I could how? {{Unsigned|Jaybird|20:50, 18 April 2011 (UTC)}}<br />
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:It depends on the license. Do you know the license? --[[User:Green Dragon|Green Dragon]] 20:03, 18 April 2011 (MDT)<br />
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== help looking ==<br />
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i need help looking for the d20 modern specs for a "big rig 10 to 14 wheeler" if you could send me specs or a site that gives this i would be very greatful.<br />
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:Is [[MSRD:Vehicles#Peterbilt 379]] what you are looking for (see the table above for statistics)? --[[User:Green Dragon|Green Dragon]] 00:32, 25 April 2011 (MDT)<br />
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== Was just wondering... ==<br />
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Just curious as to whether or not I could get my hands on a downloadable export of the mysql db for this site. I was hoping to use it for my own private notes. I play at a few people's places that don't have wifi (one of the doesnt even have internet) It would be helpful to have an SRD and such that I could put my own notes into. Either way, I completely dig the site. Keep up the good work man! -- [[User:Theoneandtruebane|Theoneandtruebane]] 17:10, 29 April 2011 (MDT)<br />
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:Well, as per the GNU FDL, you can use [[Special:Export]] which should help you. You can, of course, convert the XML to different formats such as pdf. --[[User:Green Dragon|Green Dragon]] 21:55, 29 April 2011 (MDT)<br />
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::Many thanx good sir! -- [[User:Theoneandtruebane|Theoneandtruebane]] 10:35, 30 April 2011 (MDT)<br />
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== Question??? ==<br />
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Hey Green Dragon.. This is Dj00345... i have a question for the 2.5e Homebrew that you are letting me create for the wiki.... How can i create a Template for some of the pages????? i notice when i create a new creature that there is already typing on the white screen when you create a creature... i know that is a template... but how do i create my own template myself???? i need to make some of the templates for the other links, like: Deities, Equipment, Spells, Races, Class, and the others, so that when people create a page, then the right information will already be on the screen and all they have to do is create the page.... do you understand what i am saying???? please reply back on my user talk page... thx!!! [[User:Dj00345|Dj00345]] 13:53, 2 May 2011 (MDT)<br />
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:Just create the page. When creating it the formatting guidelines to use can be found [[Add Instructions|here]]. After it is created you use a inputbox and put it on preload=. Does this answer your question? --[[User:Green Dragon|Green Dragon]] 18:59, 5 May 2011 (MDT)<br />
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::yes. [[User:Dj00345|Dj00345]] 20:08, 5 May 2011 (MDT)<br />
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== 3.5e Campaign Setting Teoryran ==<br />
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How can improve my Teoryran Setting. How can I create classes for Teoryran with the same name but different from existing classes of the same name? I am making a new system. Where all base classes are racial and status based on:<br />
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* Each race have four subraces for peasants, nobles, priests and a variable fourth.<br />
* Each subrace have a class<br />
* Each social caste have classes based on them.<br />
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Noble orcs can be samurai and noble humans can be knights. Human and orc serfs can be scoundrels, thiefs or conscriped soldiers. There will be different classes for priests and monks than for nobility. "Big changes" include:<br />
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* only racial classes gives hp<br />
* carrier classes doesn't give HP<br />
* gold is removed<br />
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--[[User:Klas|Klas Wullt]], 01:42 13 May 2011 (MST)<br />
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:For the pages with the same name you include ", Teoryran". For example "Orc, Teoryran (3.5e Race)". For the subraces you include their subrace after the comma (much like the SRD elves). For example "Orc, Teoryran Peasant (3.5e Race)". The classes can then, of course, be their favored class. If it is the fighter, for example, it would be "Fighter, Teoryran (3.5e Class)" and/or "Fighter, Teoryran Peasant (3.5e Class)". For the game mechanic changes you may have to make a [[3.5e Rules|rule]] or include it some way. When you have them made I can take a look at them and see if it makes sense. --[[User:Green Dragon|Green Dragon]] 20:08, 22 May 2011 (MDT)<br />
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== 3.5e Campaign Setting Teoryran ==<br />
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Hello. I need some help for my setting. Teoryran World. How do I sort the pages correctly? {{User:Klas Wullt|Klas|01:16, 23 May 2011 (UTC)}}<br />
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:What do you mean by sorting the pages? By category? By name? --[[User:Green Dragon|Green Dragon]] 20:09, 22 May 2011 (MDT)<br />
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Thanks for the Offer.<br />
Here, I just made on class.<br />
Please take a took at it.<br />
[[Knight, Teoryran(3.5e Class)]].<br />
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:Sorry for taking your time, I want two things!<br />
:I am writing lots of notes on my computer how to make the setting better<br />
:so I need to ask somethings.<br />
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:*About Categories<br />
:First, Sorry if I ask this, but I sort the pages by category?<br />
<br />
:*About the Setting Points.<br />
:Second, what does it take to make my Setting improve from 3/5 where it is now to the 4/5 rating that I want?<br />
:Detailed starting adventures?, detailed city maps?<br />
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::Yes, you should add [[:Category:Teoryran Setting]] to the things which relate to Teoryran. To improve it, a discussion for its talk page, you should probably format Teoryran so one can find their way back, one can find all the pages about Teoryran, etc. Also deities, pantheons, character options, quests, encounters, and maybe more, and missing. --[[User:Green Dragon|Green Dragon]] 12:47, 13 June 2011 (MDT)<br />
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===Requests 4/5 points===<br />
I have added pantheons, gods and someother things.<br />
I dont have much game mechanical information yet.<br />
Please take a look after the updates. Thanks for your time.<br />
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====Questions====<br />
Will finnishing all the classess for all the races?, raise the setting rating?<br />
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== 3.5e Equipment List - new category (Page editing locked) ==<br />
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Hi Green,<br />
<br />
I'm a new user to Wiki & would appreciate some helpful advice :-)<br />
<br />
Going to start a new D&D campaign this year with a Pirate theme. When people think of Pirates, thier main thoughts are Pirate Ships, Cannons, Flintlock Pistols & Cutlasses.<br />
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Flintlock's can easily be replaced with Hand Crossbow's, Cannons needed some more thought.<br />
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I do not want to introduce gunpowder into the campaign so as an alternative i've decided to go with Gnomish Engineering and introduce some clockwork & steampowered machinery (Steampunk) resulting in Steam Cannon's aboard ships<br />
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Decided the 3.5e equipment list therefore needs a new category of Gnome Engineering, a place for all things clockwork, steampowered or basic engineering (i.e. Piston Water Pumps)<br />
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I don't think this technolgy would change game balance as there are many ancient technologies that have been rediscovered such as the Baghdad Battery & Eygptian Piston Ballista<br />
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Created the Gnome Engineering category but can not link this category to the 3.5e Equipment list, as this page is locked for editing (for very good reasons, looks complicated)<br />
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Are you able to help?<br />
<br />
Thanks<br />
<br />
--[[User:Mufasa|Mufasa]] 10:19, 23 May 2011 (MDT)<br />
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== Blades Of Keran ==<br />
I was wondering if someone could rate my campaign setting, [[Blades Of Keran (3.5e Campaign Setting)|Blades Of Keran]]. Also I agree with the above request about Gnomish Engineering as my campaign uses Gnomish Devices as well. --[[User:Milo v3|Milo High-Hill]] 17:08, 24 May 2011 (MDT)<br />
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== Economist talk page ==<br />
<br />
So, I was browsing through the recent talk page (as I often do), and I was confused by your recent actions on the talk page of the Economist. Care to elaborate? It seemed like someone asked a question on the discussion, and Jota responded with an answer to the question. You deleted the reply, and gave no reason as to why. Someone (a random IP) then went and undid you revert, presumably because you removed helpful and useful content without a reason. You blocked him for 3 months for edit warring, despite him only having a single contribution to the wiki. What happened to warnings? What happened to the increasing block length? Effectively, you banned someone from the wiki for 3 months because they undid one of your edits, which you made without any reason at all. What's going on? --[[User:Badger|Badger]] 21:05, 24 May 2011 (MDT)<br />
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:This whole "other wiki" kerfuffle is getting out of hand. There's no reason this has to be a zero-sum game. [[User:Jazzman831|Jazz]][[User talk:Jazzman831|Man]] 21:30, 24 May 2011 (MDT)<br />
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::The [[Warning Policy]] is only for when one does not edit with civility and etiquette. This is unrelated. Edit warring is a block reason on WIkipedia's policies and therefore effective on D&D Wiki. I don't mean it to be a zero-sum game, but when someone answers with (shortened) "this answer is irrelevant, look elsewhere" it's a obscuration of spamming to external sites. Another common block reason. --[[User:Green Dragon|Green Dragon]] 21:47, 24 May 2011 (MDT)<br />
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:::The zero-sum part is black-holing any mention, however remote of another site*. It's either us or them. If they win, we lose (zero-sum). But there's no reason it has to be that way. Neither wiki is exactly crawling with people, and if we worked together instead of against each other (and looking rather silly while doing it, I might add), we would both be better off. [[User:Jazzman831|Jazz]][[User talk:Jazzman831|Man]] 22:12, 24 May 2011 (MDT) *Note, however, that it's only one site that gets people insta-blocked for a quarter. Other sites get mentioned without such severe penalties. In one case, I can think of a site that's mentioned multiple times that nobody seems to have any problem with...<br />
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::::Interesting, but D&D Wiki is not going to have a committee of people who are a self-appointed oligarchy who serve the same function as the [[Meta Pages#Improving, Reviewing, and Removing Articles|improving, reviewing, and removing articles templates]] present. Additionally things on D&D Wiki cannot be stagnant, and things should improve when they can (e.g. user categories being replaced by [[Special:NewPages]], [[Template:Author]] being superseded by history, etc). For example. --[[User:Green Dragon|Green Dragon]] 22:26, 24 May 2011 (MDT)<br />
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:::::GD, no one is telling you to change policy about reviewing content, or anything else of that ilk. Jazzman merely said, and I agree, that we should be allowed to say things exist. We have countless links to other forums and sites that host homebrew content, it seems foolish to block people for mentioning one in particular, no matter the history. We can all act like adults and just let it be. --[[User:Badger|Badger]] 22:40, 24 May 2011 (MDT)<br />
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::::::Links are supposed to do though [[DnD Links]]. All other links are incorrect. However, as I see it, on userpages is okay as long as when one notices it they move it to DnD Links, because to me that seems more like the user is unaware or unknowing. However spamming of external links, yes, does get one banned. Does this kind of answer your question? --[[User:Green Dragon|Green Dragon]] 23:59, 24 May 2011 (MDT)<br />
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:::::::So, by your own admission, Jota and everyone else can post links to their other wikis on their user page, but not in the main namespace? Seems fair to me. I'll go ahead and add links to [[DnD Links]]. I'll assume users can still write something like "If you have any other questions, leave a message on my talk page", where they can post links to other sites (as you said yourself, user pages are fine for external links). Alright, sounds good. I'm glad we've finally come to some sort of agreement on this. --[[User:Badger|Badger]] 01:05, 25 May 2011 (MDT)<br />
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::::::::No, that's taking it out of context. "on userpages is okay as long as when one notices it they move it to DnD Links" should be read as a full statement. Otherwise it's still a violation of policy. --[[User:Green Dragon|Green Dragon]] 11:24, 25 May 2011 (MDT)<br />
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:::::::::You're telling me that there shouldn't be any external links on User Pages then? I was under the impression that if they were also listed on DnD Links, that would be fine. Sometimes you'd want to give a more specific link, like say one to a particular article. The way you've phrased it, it seems like there should be no external links anywhere but on that DnD Links page. That doesn't make any sense at all. --[[User:Badger|Badger]] 13:50, 25 May 2011 (MDT)<br />
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::::::::::Well, maybe something like the w: could be made (as a template) for each link. Really, however, one should just direct one to [[DnD Links]] (that's why they are <tt><nowiki>{{#anc:}}</nowiki></tt>'ed). --[[User:Green Dragon|Green Dragon]] 13:41, 25 May 2011 (MDT)<br />
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:::::::::::I understand what you're saying. I'm saying why make someone go to DnD Links, and then search the other site, when you could just as easily link to the exact page in the first place? DnD Links is certainly a good page, and designed for ease of reference, but I think it works best as a general tool, and for specific purposes one might as well link directly from one page to another, without using DnD Links. --[[User:Badger|Badger]] 13:50, 25 May 2011 (MDT)<br />
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<-- Again, why? Can someone give me a reason why we are never allowed to link to other sites? I'm just not seeing the reasoning here other than to annex The Site Which Shall Not Be Named, and even that I can't see any good reasoning for. [[User:Hooper|Hooper]] is allowed to link to [[O.G.R.E.]] (which has it's own wiki page, btw; we aren't even allowed to ''mention'' the Other Wiki) with no repercussions, but an anon who undid an outright deletion of a post that vaguely mentions That Other Wiki was banned, without warning, for 3 months. Did they murder your favorite pet or something? Will the site really blow up if I decide to link to some innocent site that doesn't happen to me mentioned on DnD Links (which, judging by the traffic on that page, nobody looks at anyway)?<br />
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Sadly, I've seen this exact same scenario on wikis before: site 1 does something that subset of the site doesn't like. Said subset creates their own wiki. Wiki 1 bans mentions of Wiki 2. Wiki 2 uses this as reasoning to orchestrate more and bigger attacks against Wiki 1. As the bickering continues both sites end up looking silly and losing who would otherwise be valuable members. The more we block them the more they will do things like [[Special:Contributions/Bird|Bird]] did, which are ultimately more harmful to the site than anything the users would do if we just played nice with them. [[User:Jazzman831|Jazz]][[User talk:Jazzman831|Man]] 15:40, 25 May 2011 (MDT)<br />
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:So, should we do something like w: then? Currently, [[User:Hooper|Hooper]] should not be linking to any site not by way of [[DnD Links]]. I'm just following policy, be it fledgling or not. --[[User:Green Dragon|Green Dragon]] 16:00, 25 May 2011 (MDT)<br />
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::I don't know what w: means. What I want to do is allow people to link to other sites without having to go through DND links first. If that's what w: is then yes, we should do that.<br />
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::If Hooper's not allowed to link to these sites, then do you want to clean out his userpage and delete [[O.G.R.E.]]? Because I can't see the reason for it. [[User:Jazzman831|Jazz]][[User talk:Jazzman831|Man]] 17:03, 25 May 2011 (MDT)<br />
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:Ironically, the best description I know of for the events that transpired is on the other wiki. A bunch of people decided to make a "rating committee". GD didn't like it. There was a bunch of silly squabbling, and the other wiki left, taking a ton of content and users with them. GD and everyone else were upset about who took what content, and the legality of that. Honestly, in my mind, this is the sort of thing that, after a week, could have blown over. Clearly we just need to share a beer, play some D&D, and realize how silly this fight is. Also, start allowing each other to link to each other's wikis. I can't speak with any certainty, but I am pretty sure they allow links to this wiki. --[[User:Badger|Badger]] 15:58, 25 May 2011 (MDT)<br />
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::Go for it. I don't really want to do any cleaning out of userpages right now&ndash; I'm working on [[4e Deities]] as it is. I agree this is silly, however if links really are needed then someone (again, I don't care to do this) should make something like how [[Template:Background Information (Halo Supplement)]] treats links for each link. --[[User:Green Dragon|Green Dragon]] 17:11, 25 May 2011 (MDT)<br />
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:::I'm not going to delete [[O.G.R.E.]] because it doesn't bother me and I don't understand why it's not allowed. I don't want to go angering Hooper, who's contributions are numerous and high-quality, if I don't have to. If you have time to block people for mentioning one site, I'm not sure why you are too busy to block people for mentioning another site. So how about instead we just allow everyone to link to sites?<br />
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:::And if all we have to do in order to link to D&D wiki (err, the *other* one, anyway) is to create a template, then that's a piece of cake. Heck, I can make one that works even ''better'' than the one you linked to. Now everyone's happy! [[User:Jazzman831|Jazz]][[User talk:Jazzman831|Man]] 17:45, 25 May 2011 (MDT) (BTW Green Dragon, I think you are having problems with your browser. For some reason when you edit it deletes parts of the page on accident).<br />
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::::I'm not entirely sure why we need a template, especially one that would go at the bottom of the page like you linked. Maybe one at the top of the talk page? But, what would the template say, "This page contains external links. DanDWiki does not have any affiliation with any externally linked sites. Links do no necessarily reflect the views of DanDWiki and its owners"? --[[User:Badger|Badger]] 20:06, 25 May 2011 (MDT)<br />
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:::::That's a good idea. And it could incorporate the switch extension. I just meant "like how [[Template:Background Information (Halo Supplement)]] treats links". --[[User:Green Dragon|Green Dragon]] 20:29, 25 May 2011 (MDT)<br />
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::::::How about this:<br />
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{| align=center border=1 cellpadding=2 cellspacing=2 style="text-align: center; background:#F4F0EC; color:black"<br />
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| '''This page contains external links.'''<br/><small>D&D Wiki does not have any affiliation with any externally linked sites. <br> Links do no necessarily reflect the views of D&D Wiki</small><br />
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::::::It makes no sense to have a template for individual sites, or even as a way to include the link in the template. If it pleases the wiki, we can just make a <nowiki>{{template:external_link}}</nowiki> and go from there. Throw this up on a page, and we can have external links anywhere we want. Problem solved. --[[User:Badger|Badger]] 20:56, 25 May 2011 (MDT)<br />
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:::::::I don't like how obtrusive that is. I would prefer something much less obtrusive, comparable to an expansion of the MW external link symbol. For example: <nowiki>[www.address.{{{1}}}] ([[DnD Links#site|link information]]</nowiki> [[File:Externallink.png|12px]] this external link does not have any affiliation with D&D Wiki) And, I would prefer having a hard list of sites because as the internet is full of sites with varying degrees of quality it is good to have some quality control over how it effects D&D Wiki. --[[User:Green Dragon|Green Dragon]] 11:35, 26 May 2011 (MDT)<br />
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::::::::Ok, well, considering that external links already have an associated image (or at least a symbol), why don't you just include a line of text below the edit window (by which I mean below the line "You are also promising us that you wrote this yourself, or copied it from a public domain or similar free resource. Do not submit copyrighted work without permission!") that says something to the effect of "Links to external sites must be deemed appropriate; inappropriate links subject to removal. See [[DnD Links]] for list of appropriate links." and we'll just say any page or subpage of a link on the DnD Links page can be freely linked to. I think the problem with including a template in this process is that we already have a ton of templates that we don't use because they are confusing or hard to find. Considering there is already a button for external links, we might as well use that. --[[User:Badger|Badger]] 12:18, 26 May 2011 (MDT)<br />
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:::::::::What are your thoughts on just making a [[Meta Pages#Policies|policy]] which covers it and then adding text on [[DnD Links]] explaining it's function. --[[User:Green Dragon|Green Dragon]] 17:27, 26 May 2011 (MDT)<br />
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::::::::::That sounds like the best possible plan. We allow external links, add a line in the policy about external links, and a brief summary about what should and should not be linked on the DnD links page. I'm glad we've finally come to some sort of agreement, and don't require the use of templates or other things that may be confusing to new users. --[[User:Badger|Badger]] 19:35, 26 May 2011 (MDT)<br />
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:::::::::::I just wanted to comment on something said much earlier. It was ''"Note, however, that it's only one site that gets people insta-blocked for a quarter. Other sites get mentioned without such severe penalties. In one case, I can think of a site that's mentioned multiple times that nobody seems to have any problem with..."''. Not true. I literally was blocked on [http://dungeons.wikia.com/index.php?title=Special%3ALog&type=block&user=&page=&year=&month=-1 September 20th, 2009] after making four edits to that wiki - one redirecting a talk page to me, and three asking for a diff in a respectful manner. The block summary even stated some harsh thing. Don't pretend that one wiki is a white knight in this issue. I still don't understand why people won't just stay at their chosen wiki home, and ignore the other. ''(also, I only added the actual link because I'm understanding its now okay on talk pages? If thats not so delete it. I'm honestly having a hard time following.)''<br />
:::::::::::Now, as far as O.G.R.E.s is concerned. It is my understanding, and perhaps I am wrong in this understanding, that long ago it was decided not to link to "competing sites". OGREs may be another wiki ''(for now, but when our webmaster isn't paid, things take time)'' but it isn't a competing site. We're not looking for the same kind of content. Now maybe I'm wrong, and if so, delete it. But in my opinion, the D&D Other section is perfect for articles discussing the different gaming organizations and may be very pertinent to the common D&D Wiki browser's interest. &nbsp;<small><span style="border: 1px solid black; -moz-border-radius:10px">[[User:Hooper|'''<span style="background-color:White; color:Black; -moz-border-radius-topleft:10px; -moz-border-radius-bottomleft:10px"> Hooper </span>''']][[User talk:Hooper|<span style="background-color:Black; color:white; -moz-border-radius-bottomleft:10px; -moz-border-radius-topleft:10px">&nbsp;&nbsp;talk&nbsp;&nbsp;</span>]][[Special:Contributions/Hooper|<span style="background-color:black; color:white">&nbsp;&nbsp;contribs&nbsp;&nbsp;</span>]][[Special:Emailuser/Hooper|<span style="background-color:black; color:white; -moz-border-radius-bottomright:10px; -moz-border-radius-topright:10px">&nbsp;&nbsp;email&nbsp;&nbsp;</span>]]</span></small> 21:35, 29 May 2011 (MDT)<br />
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::::::::::::Even if they did block you, that's not really a good reason to insta-block ''them''. Simply linking to that site isn't, in and of itself, a legitimate reason in my mind to block someone for ''3 months'', especially considering the specific case we were talking about. (Let's face it, were it anyone but GD, we might have thought the original reversion was vandalism; it is only because we saw his name beside it that we know it wasn't).<br />
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::::::::::::As for O.G.R.E, I don't actually think it should be deleted, just as I don't think links to the other wiki should be deleted. But as far as I can tell, there's no differentiation between what links we are allowed to link to. Under the current rules as written, if we insta-ban people for mentioning one, it's completely hypocritical to pretend links to the other don't even exist. I'm not actually arguing that we enforce the rules against all sites, I think we need to change the rule entirely. [[User:Jazzman831|Jazz]][[User talk:Jazzman831|Man]] 22:05, 29 May 2011 (MDT)<br />
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:::::::::::::What's an instablock? The block was for edit warring, see also [http://www.dandwiki.com/w/index.php?title=Special:Log&type=block&page=User%3A63.23.72.173]. It's unrelated. I have no idea about O.G.R.E.. Is it on [[DnD Links]]? Has it been looked over? If it's anything like your video channel (which I have seen) then i'd be fine. Of course this discussion is for elsewhere. --[[User:Green Dragon|Green Dragon]] 22:11, 29 May 2011 (MDT)<br />
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::::::::::::::[http://www.dandwiki.com/wiki/Special:Contributions/216.66.140.248 This] is an insta-block. A user's very first ever edit was a reversion of unexplained deletion of Jota's response. The guy can't be accused of edit warring when there were (liberally) only 2 reverts, only one of which was this guy a participant. If we go by [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:3RR#The_three-revert_rule WP:3RR], it's not a revert war until one editor does ''three'' reverts in a 24-hour period. That editor hadn't even had three ''edits''. (The IP you linked to, by the way, only had 2 reverts, and was never even given a warning before he was blocked for 3 months.) Not only that, but had an IP or a new user deleted Jota's comment without explanation, the reversion of said deletion would probably be given exception from the 3RR, because to all appearances, deleting someone else's talk page comments is usually itself vandalism. Adding them back almost never is. At worst, the two IPs should have been given an explanation of how what they were doing was not allowed, a warning to discontinue their actions, and ''maybe'' blocked for a day to cool down. [[User:Jazzman831|Jazz]][[User talk:Jazzman831|Man]] 08:34, 30 May 2011 (MDT) [http://www.dandwiki.com/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Green_Dragon&diff=next&oldid=520281]<br />
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== Hi ==<br />
I need help with footers and links.<br />
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:Could you be a little more specific? I've been working on a new user guide for some time now. It's not nearly complete, but it may be able to help you with some of your questions. You can find that [[User:Badger/sandbox3|here]].If you show me what you are trying to do, I can probably help. Drop a message on [[User_talk:Badger|my talk page]], and I'll see if I can help you work through your problems. --[[User:Badger|Badger]] 14:54, 25 May 2011 (MDT)<br />
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== hello ==<br />
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I have almost finnished 3/8 planned racial caste races.<br />
Please have a look at the Human noble and human peasant <br />
and Ork noble races.<br />
Links are found at Teoryran info about Races.<br />
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The race pages are to big, <br />
any suggestions of how to cut them up and<br />
sort them in different sections?<br />
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== hi ==<br />
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Mmm, well I needed the pages sorted after supplement.<br />
I needed to put lots of class and race descriptions of personality, the world<br />
and their lands somewhere else.<br />
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== hi ==<br />
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Mmm, well I needed the pages sorted after supplement.<br />
I needed to put lots of class and race descriptions of personality, the world<br />
and their lands somewhere else.<br />
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:What do you mean? [[Races of Teoryran (Teoryran World Supplement)]] is understandable. It is missing its footer though. Is that what you mean? --[[User:Green Dragon|Green Dragon]] 19:52, 26 May 2011 (MDT)<br />
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Yes; sorry for being unclear.<br />
I Lack footers and I am unsure where to put my classes<br />
if they are not exactly base classes either?<br />
Variant rules?<br />
Should I greate a new page for racial classes?<br />
Or are they paragon classes?<br />
I am worried that some of the pages about info for the setting<br />
lack addresses and take up extra memory.<br />
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Hello.<br />
We need a racial class category like that from Savage Species.<br />
Savage Species offers levels all the way up<br />
and they don’t just raise abilities at level 3.<br />
Can I make a suppliment page<br />
where I have my own classess,<br />
I might do it, you can delete if its improper.<br />
I would like some criticism for my classes.<br />
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:I imagine what you are talking about should work as a [[3.5e Racial Paragon Classes|racial paragon class]] with a specific [[3.5e Races|race]] made for it. Though you may want to mention that you are using the monster class rules from [[Savage Species]]. If they are not racial paragon classes then yes, you should make a [[3.5e Rules|rule]] about them and link them from there. Don't worry about taking up space. It's of no concern. Does this help? --[[User:Green Dragon|Green Dragon]] 12:29, 13 June 2011 (MDT)<br />
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:It does help alot, I think I prefere the combo Savage Species+ Paragon. and have started to work on it.Now my problem lies with what features to distribute.But aren't there any category where you can submit Savage Species Monster classes? Paragon classes, mostly allows you to reduce the weaknesses of a race, as I see it anyway, while monster classes sort of build the race from zero and up.The attempt to create different "races" for aristocrats and commoners,end up making them very similar except that commoners gets penalties the nobles don't.I have a dozen ideas, and edit back and forth.Still, if you took a look at these I made,you can se specific balancing is a problem.<br />
--[[User:Klas]] 10:46,08 Juli 2011 (?)<br />
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== Edit Revert? ==<br />
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Why did you revert my edit on [[Talk:DnD Links]]? I didn't break any of your rules and, furthermore, I contributed to the discussion. You shouldn't just censor things because you don't agree with them... --[[User:Aarnott|Aarnott]] 13:44, 30 May 2011 (MDT)<br />
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:Because it's not adding anything new to the discussion. It's not pertinent, see also the reason. --[[User:Green Dragon|Green Dragon]] 13:49, 30 May 2011 (MDT)<br />
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::"Because it's not adding anything new to the discussion."<br />
::False. I gave an illustration of how GNU (and similarly GPL) actually works in practice and showed that the emphasis on the licenses was initially for code libraries/projects. That emphasis is a very important distinction because it provides more basis for the argument I'm making. This also provides some historical context for my argument.<br />
::I brought up how MySQL's licensing can be seen as a parallel example (actually I could have brought up Wikipedia too -- how do you think they transitioned from GPL 1.2 to GPL 1.3? Relicensing.).<br />
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::"It's not pertinent, see also the reason."<br />
::Your reason is a complete strawman argument. ie. You are attacking an argument I didn't even make. Let's examine the exact "reason" you gave:<br />
::"wrong - there is no section 11 clause to the GNU FDL v1.2 (that's the whole -i think- MSQL legal dilema)"<br />
::Now go back to what I wrote. Did I write ''anything'' about section 11? No. In fact, earlier I already explained that section 11 does not apply in this case because this wiki is under GNU FDL 1.2 (the exact thing I said was "Anon, you are actually incorrect, unfortunately. This wiki uses GNU FDL 1.2 and no licenses can just suddenly retroactively patch a previous license.", see the context).<br />
::Also, you "think" that is the whole "MSQL legal dilema", but I never even said that this has anything to do at all with MySQL's legal dilemma. I was strictly comparing the fact that MySQL was able to transition to a dual license to authorship as a concept.<br />
::And, just to be a bit cheeky: you censored a well-written post meant to explain in detail my stance in a discussion. The whole point of that post was because you clearly were not responding intelligibly to what I had written earlier, so it seemed necessary to go into more detail. That's a pretty standard thing in a discussion. Elaborating on a point when the other party doesn't seem to understand.<br />
::What I'd like to hear is how you think authorship and licensing actually works. All you've done is say that others are wrong, but you have yet to provide any evidence to back up your claims. --[[User:Aarnott|Aarnott]] 14:10, 30 May 2011 (MDT)<br />
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:::It may not even be MySQL I am referring to. There is a conglomerate of companies which has a problem with previous GNU FDL licensing and now it is uncertain who owns their things. Since they used section 11 and did some version changing and things, they now have this problem. Last I saw one had to give over some billion worth in rights to the other or something along those lines. <br />
:::It just doesn't matter how people use the GNU FDL v1.2. Who cares? We go by the license and law, and that is the discussion (mostly). What the GNU FDL has been used for is not.<br />
:::I have said repeatedly that like Wikipedia's terms of use, law is. Of course things like licenses are interchangeable. What's not to read? --[[User:Green Dragon|Green Dragon]] 14:28, 30 May 2011 (MDT)<br />
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::::"There is a conglomerate of companies..."<br />
::::How does this point have anything to do with your website? Your website is not a company and you and it have no ownership over the material others put on it. You have ownership of the database and the webserver (or at least the rental agreement if you rent).<br />
::::"We go by the license and law, and that is the discussion (mostly)"<br />
::::What law? The one I showed was clearly false? Again, I ask very simply: explain how you actually think authorship and licensing works (with regard to this wiki). It seems you are either unwilling or unable to back up your claims, which isn't surprising considering that they hold no weight whatsoever.<br />
::::"I have said repeatedly that like Wikipedia's terms of use, law is."<br />
::::Since the following sentences probably hinge on that one, I'm just going to have to ask you to rephrase it. From the way I read it: "I have said repeatedly that, similar to Wikipedia's terms of use, law is an entity that exists". Which is true... But it doesn't really say anything worthwhile. I could say something similar and it would have just as much meaning to me: I have said repeatedly that like Wikipedia's terms of use, bacon is. --[[User:Aarnott|Aarnott]] 14:57, 30 May 2011 (MDT)<br />
::::PS. If you really do follow wikipedia's rules, then you broke them by reverting my edit. See [[w:Wikipedia:TPO]].<br />
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:::::I know. It's just an interesting story. That, though, is the only way whatever you are talking about is possible. D&D Wiki licenses content, like Wikipedia (see their Terms of Use). What's not to understand? --[[User:Green Dragon|Green Dragon]] 15:04, 30 May 2011 (MDT)<br />
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::::::"D&D Wiki licenses content"<br />
::::::From whom? Licenses need to be granted by some entity by definition... Yes. You just argued my point for me. You still haven't explained how you think it actually works though (yes, this is my third time asking on this page alone). --[[User:Aarnott|Aarnott]] 15:12, 30 May 2011 (MDT)<br />
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:::::::No, your not thinking about this. How does Wikipedia do it? They are only reserved. --[[User:Green Dragon|Green Dragon]] 15:14, 30 May 2011 (MDT)<br />
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::::::::I will entertain your questions even though you won't answer mine. I'm not sure which terms of use you want to to explain (the old one that uses GNU FDL 1.2 or the new one that uses GNU FDL 1.3. I'll explain the one that matters<br />
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::::::::'''GNU FDL 1.2 (last revision found at [[w:Wikipedia:Terms_of_use&oldid=30325726]]):'''<br />
::::::::After all the boring text telling us that every page is protected under US copyright laws, you are bound to the terms even if you don't read them, that pages are licensed under GNU FDL 1.2, and that page histories meet the terms of the GNU FDL, there is a wonderful gem of bolded text (which I'm going to bold the important part in my quote below).<br />
::::::::"you are hereby being given notice under Title 17 USC that it is your responsibility to comply with the copyright laws in regards to this archival material and your copying it may be considered infringement ('''specifically if any of the materials being stored in those prior versions are copyrighted materials that were submitted to Wikipedia without the author/authors or copyright holder's/holders' permission(s)''')."<br />
::::::::Huh? The author has to give permission to have it put on Wikipedia? It's almost as if the author has rights to their own work! You know, like the right to license their work as they see fit. Note also that the terms of use do not have any such mention of forgoing the author's right to relicense their own work. It just talks about the fact that you can't take materials that have a copyright and add the GNU FDL license without having the author's consent.<br />
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::::::::Now for the GNU FDL 1.3, there is little point in explaining because we have already determined that this wiki does not use that license anyways, but if it did, a CC-by-SA license can be added to ''other author's'' work. Yeah, if this site was GNU FDL 1.3 that would just mean that moving content and relicensing would not require the author's consent.<br />
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::::::::Attempt #4: Care to explain how you think it works (and maybe throw in some specific quotes to support your argument this time)? --[[User:Aarnott|Aarnott]] 15:37, 30 May 2011 (MDT)<br />
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:::::::::'''Do not submit copyrighted work without permission!''' &mdash; what's not to understand? The adherence to the license? "you are bound to the terms even if you don't read them, that pages are licensed under GNU FDL 1.2" --[[User:Green Dragon|Green Dragon]] 15:41, 30 May 2011 (MDT)<br />
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::::::::::You aren't getting it. Whose permission is required for copyrighted work? All you are pointing out is exactly what I just said: you can't submit the copyrighted work of others'. You can totally submit your own copyrighted work because you obviously have your own permission. --[[User:Aarnott|Aarnott]] 15:47, 30 May 2011 (MDT)<br />
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:::::::::::Your not getting it. "you are bound to the terms even if you don't read them", meaning that you are bound to the terms. With regard to copyrighting through the USA Copyright Office, a different scenario, was it done? And I think Wikipedia's Terms of Use cover that to some extend now. --[[User:Green Dragon|Green Dragon]] 16:19, 30 May 2011 (MDT)<br />
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::::::::::::Can I link to an external site (the US Copyright Office site)? On their FAQ, you will clearly see the following text:<br />
::::::::::::"Do I have to register with your office to be protected? No. In general, registration is voluntary. Copyright exists from the moment the work is created. You will have to register, however, if you wish to bring a lawsuit for infringement of a U.S. work."<br />
::::::::::::So, I don't see what the copyright office has to do with anything.<br />
::::::::::::I totally agree that Terms of Use function in a way that makes them binding even if they are not read. But the fact of the matter is, anything I write is copyrighted (by me), and I can license that work as I see fit. You agree that the GNU FDL is a license, not a contract, right (this is a VERY important distinction)? --[[User:Aarnott|Aarnott]] 16:46, 30 May 2011 (MDT)<br />
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:::::::::::::I mean previously copyrighted work. And, no, submitting it here licenses it. For example: "Therefore, for any text you hold the copyright to, by submitting it, you agree to license it under the". --[[User:Green Dragon|Green Dragon]] 16:50, 30 May 2011 (MDT)<br />
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{{Discussion Indentation Revert}}<br />
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:Previously copyrighted work is not a big deal either because none of the content that was moved was copyrighted by someone who didn't hold the copyright.<br />
:Just to be perfectly clear: you agree the GNU FDL is a license, not a contract, yes or no? --[[User:Aarnott|Aarnott]] 17:02, 30 May 2011 (MDT)<br />
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::I think the problem is GD thinks licensing content here grants DandWiki ''exclusive'' license to the content. It doesn't. --[[User:Badger|Badger]] 17:06, 30 May 2011 (MDT)<br />
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:::Indeed. Exclusive licenses require a contract, which this website does not have. That's what I was getting to ''';)'''. --[[User:Aarnott|Aarnott]] 17:12, 30 May 2011 (MDT)<br />
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::::It doesn't. See also the [[Coin Golem (3.5e Creature)]]. All I am saying is there is a licensing problem (as it ''is'' the GNU FDL v1.2) which undermines D&D Wiki in various ways if it is not that license. --[[User:Green Dragon|Green Dragon]] 17:45, 30 May 2011 (MDT)<br />
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:::::Right. But the point of the GNU FDL is not for authors, it is for collaborators. The author is licensing a ''copy'' of their work (whatever it may be) under the GNU FDL. It is not an exclusive license. That ''copy'' must follow all the rules and regulations of the GNU FDL. If the same user decides they want to license their work under a different license, they don't have to pay any attention to the GNU FDL because they are licensing a completely separate ''copy'' -- even if the content is exactly the same. --[[User:Aarnott|Aarnott]] 17:56, 30 May 2011 (MDT)<br />
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::::::No. For example "Therefore, for any text you hold the copyright to, by submitting it, you agree to license it under the" --[[User:Green Dragon|Green Dragon]] 19:42, 30 May 2011 (MDT)<br />
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:::::::You are correct. When you submit content you are agreeing to license it under the GNU FDL v1.2. However, you are ''not'' agreeing to ''exclusively'' license it under the GNU FDL v1.2, ''nor are you giving up your copyright''. You are free to release it under other licenses (which may have other conditions), to other people, whenever you want. --[[User:Badger|Badger]] 12:56, 31 May 2011 (MDT)<br />
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::::::::Not if what it is licensed under forbids it. For example "no other conditions whatsoever" means just that. --[[User:Green Dragon|Green Dragon]] 12:54, 1 June 2011 (MDT)<br />
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== Campaign Setting ==<br />
<br />
My campaign setting is no longer showing up on the 3.5e Homebrew for campaign settings. I don't really know much about moving pages and such so I actually need help with this. --[[User:Grim914|Grim914]] 00:02, 31 May 2011 (MDT)<br />
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I fixed it.--[[User:Milo v3|Milo High-Hill]] 01:30, 31 May 2011 (MDT)<br />
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I need help with balancing my classes.<br />
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I also have a question.<br />
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Can I write off, feats from books and put under the class?<br />
I found some cannon feats I wanted to use?<br />
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Thanks, I don't know who that is. --[[User:Grim914|Grim914]] 22:39, 31 May 2011 (MDT)<br />
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:If you supply me with a link I can help you balance the classes. Yes, you can use feats. Reference books with <tt><nowiki><sup>'s</nowiki></tt>. --[[User:Green Dragon|Green Dragon]] 12:19, 13 June 2011 (MDT)<br />
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== Race Posts ==<br />
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I recently posted a race, but cannot find it when I go through the Homebrew races for 3.5e. Did I not post it correctly? The name of the race is Kyree (plural).<br />
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== Race Posts ==<br />
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I recently posted a race, but cannot find it when I go through the Homebrew races for 3.5e. Did I not post it correctly? The name of the race is Kyree (plural).<br />
[[User:Grimli93|Grimli93]] 10:31, 1 June 2011 (MDT)<br />
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:I'm pretty sure I fixed it. You left the <!- and -!> on in the category sections. I also fixed a few other problems on the page without changing any of your work.--[[User:Milo v3|Milo High-Hill]] 02:21, 2 June 2011 (MDT)<br />
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== Keran (3.5e Races) ==<br />
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Why have you recently edited the names of many of my races from "Race Name (Keran Race)" to "Race Name, Keran (3.5e Race)"? In my opinion it was unnecessary and I am confused to why you did it?--[[User:Milo v3|Milo High-Hill]] 01:06, 4 June 2011 (MDT)<br />
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:Races should be labeled as "Race". I added "Keran" to some to distinguish them as part of [[Blades Of Keran (3.5e Campaign Setting)|Blades Of Keran]] where their was already something of the same name. How they used to be named made a problem on the dynamic race pages. --[[User:Green Dragon|Green Dragon]] 01:09, 4 June 2011 (MDT)<br />
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::Didn't notice the problems. And if thats so then why not rename all of them? Also some of what you renamed doesn't have Keran in the title. --[[User:Milo v3|Milo High-Hill]] 01:18, 4 June 2011 (MDT)<br />
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:::I guess I can. Some don't have "Keran" because I was not certain if you want it there or not. It doesn't need to be (the reason for the some was that it makes sense to not have variant attached to the page), but they all can have "Keran" present. I am uncertain. I'm actually working on the disambiguation page [[Elf]] and didn't do the others as such. --[[User:Green Dragon|Green Dragon]] 01:21, 4 June 2011 (MDT)<br />
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::::So why did they need to say 3.5e? I didn't think they required it to be 3.5e.--[[User:Milo v3|Milo High-Hill]] 01:36, 4 June 2011 (MDT)<br />
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:::::I put that there because they use 3.5e rules. I think I am confused. --[[User:Green Dragon|Green Dragon]] 01:39, 4 June 2011 (MDT)<br />
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::::::You didn't do that for other Disambiguations. For example [[Fighter|Fighter]].--[[User:Milo v3|Milo High-Hill]] 01:43, 4 June 2011 (MDT)<br />
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:::::::I'm not understanding what your saying. I have not yet saved [[Elf]], if that helps at all. I was actually talking about the Keran races I moved above. --[[User:Green Dragon|Green Dragon]] 01:45, 4 June 2011 (MDT)<br />
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::::::::I was more asking why do they need to be (3.5e Race) for disambiguation. Also if it is just because of it is 3.5 material then shouldn't Cora races also be changed?.--[[User:Milo v3|Milo High-Hill]] 01:55, 4 June 2011 (MDT)<br />
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:::::::::Yes, it is because it is 3.5e material. I am doing it because disambiguation pages require alphabetization and moving them now makes it much smoother. --[[User:Green Dragon|Green Dragon]] 01:57, 4 June 2011 (MDT)<br />
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::::::::::Okay. But how come the elves now don't have Keran as part of the page title? Not that thats a problem just wondering. Because you changed the name for the Lizardfolk as well (I'm guessing for the same reasons as the Elves) but they still have the Keran as part of there title.--[[User:Milo v3|Milo High-Hill]] 02:13, 4 June 2011 (MDT)<br />
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:::::::::::I did that because the lizardfolk had other lizardfolk races with the same name present. I can do that for the elves, which were the only elves with that name, if you want. It's your call. --[[User:Green Dragon|Green Dragon]] 18:36, 4 June 2011 (MDT)<br />
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:::::::::::It's fine now I was just confused before.--[[User:Milo v3|Milo High-Hill]] 22:23, 4 June 2011 (MDT)<br />
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== Prestige Base Classes ==<br />
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In Blades Of Keran I was going to create new prestige classes. The only problem is that I want my prestige classes to like a Base Class with slight requirements. And as I wanted to make them full base classes, I was hoping to give them a full 1-20 level progression without having to use Epic Level Rules. So would they be still classed as Prestige Classes?--[[User:Milo v3|Milo High-Hill]] 23:10, 24 June 2011 (MDT)<br />
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:No. They would not work with [[SRD:Multiclass Characters]]. Making a [[3.5e Rules|rule]] about them and linking them from that page would be appropriate. --[[User:Green Dragon|Green Dragon]] 17:19, 25 June 2011 (MDT)<br />
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== Creating an Infrastructure Category for SRD Pages ==<br />
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I was working on a sortable DPL for 3.5e SRD Creatures (as an example for what we could do for 3e Monsters), and I came across a problem. It seems that we have pages like "Evil Creatures" marked as "Creatures", which naturally creates a problem when making a DPL of all creatures. My solution to this would be one of two options: Remove "Creatures" category from pages like "Evil Creatures", or create a new category like "SRD Infrastructure", which we could add to all pages like "Evil Creatures" that are labeled "Creature" but aren't actually creatures. We already have a category by that name, so we'd need to name it something else, but the idea stands. What are your thoughts? --[[User:Badger|Badger]] 22:51, 26 June 2011 (MDT)<br />
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:Or just remove [[:Category:Creature]] from that page and replace it with [[:Category:Creature List]]? If it's a widespread problem an infrastructure category may make more sense though. --[[User:Green Dragon|Green Dragon]] 23:04, 26 June 2011 (MDT)<br />
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::Ehh, I've just figured out a way to do what I wanted to do without having to change anything. I'm not sure if it is a better solution (efficiency-wise), but it's less work in the present, so I like it well enough. Do you know much about DPL tables? I'm trying to figure out how to insert text into a cell that with an empty parameter (similar to how we have NFR or NR for classes that aren't fully rated on the 3.5e Class Homebrew table). Do you know how to do that, or better yet, do you know of a website that would be able to teach me how? --[[User:Badger|Badger]] 23:39, 26 June 2011 (MDT)<br />
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:::I know some about dpl's. An empty parameter? You could just do something like <tt><code><nowiki>|include={<!-template->}:noneparam:<!-include1->, etc</nowiki></code></tt>. --[[User:Green Dragon|Green Dragon]] 23:53, 26 June 2011 (MDT)<br />
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::::I don't think that's quite what I'm trying to do. If you check out [[User:Badger/sandbox12|my attempt]], you'll notice that entries like "Air Elemental" have blank spaces in the table. That is because they have multiple copies of the template I am querying on the page, so it won't return anything. My plan was to make it so if the box for "CR" was empty, the table would put in some line of text like "Varies". That way there would be no empty cells in the table. I'm still trying to get the hang of DPLs, so I'm not sure what code does what. --[[User:Badger|Badger]] 00:03, 27 June 2011 (MDT)<br />
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:::::Nevermind, I don't need to do that for this list anymore, but if you know of a useful resource I'd love to get it. My google searches aren't as helpful as I'd like them to be. --[[User:Badger|Badger]] 00:20, 27 June 2011 (MDT)<br />
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::::::[http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/MediaWiki Mediawiki.org] has things about extensions. Sorry, I do not know how to default dpl results. --[[User:Green Dragon|Green Dragon]] 01:11, 27 June 2011 (MDT)<br />
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== Vacation ==<br />
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I will be going away for the next few weeks. If everyone could keep up on vandalism and spam that would be very appreciated. --[[User:Green Dragon|Green Dragon]] 21:07, 27 June 2011 (MDT)<br />
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== goofed on a new class ==<br />
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I created a new class, Cantrip Master, but my logon expired so it went online but did not show as I started it. Is there some way to rectify that?<br />
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Thank you for your help<br />
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Dan {{unsigned|Ubergeek63}}<br />
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:Hey [[User:Ubergeek63|Dan]], GD is on vacation. I can try to help, but I don't think I truly understand what you're trying to say above. Can you give a link to the [http://www.dandwiki.com/wiki/Special:Contributions/Ubergeek63 diff] or [http://www.dandwiki.com/wiki/Special:Contributions/Ubergeek63 diffs] in question to help us see what problem you're having? Or explain in a little more detail? Also, remember to sign your posts by the use of four tildes (i.e. <nowiki>~~~~</nowiki>). {{User:Hooper/autosig2}} 17:16, 29 June 2011 (MDT)<br />
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== Any Suggestions for a Discussion? ==<br />
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Mm any suggestions for what to put at my talk page?<br />
Is it possible to allow for others to expand or edit my setting?<br />
I would like to try to engage others to contribute.<br />
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:That would more be something for the campaign settings discussion page. Your talk is where other users will talk to you. If you mean your userpage, you may want to look at other user's userpages to get some ideas. --[[User:Green Dragon|Green Dragon]] 12:25, 29 July 2011 (MDT)<br />
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== Just curious. ==<br />
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Why is there no Ambidexterity in the 3.0 edition feat list? {{unsigned|Dorkmuncher}}<br />
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:The feats in that list are SRD only - meaning they are the officially released feats that we are legally allowed to have. If something is not listed there, and it was an official feat, then it was not released in such a way to allow us to host it. {{User:Hooper/autosig2}} 06:03, 9 July 2011 (MDT)<br />
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== Marroar and his torrent of unbalancing ==<br />
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You'll probably have already noticed and what not, but it's beginning to bug me. I noticed a guy named [[User:Marroar|Marroar]] with edits all over the place, mostly tiny ones, but hundreds of them. It seems like everything he touches becomes unbalanced as anything, particularly with some changes he tried to make to a race of my original creation, and even seen more so at [[Dragon Rider (3.5e Class)|Dragon Rider]], in which the nearly the entire history is tiny, horrible alterations to an already sketchy class, including some that go completely against the fundamental functions of the class page, like giving out ability adjustments just for taking the class. You'll see what I mean, if you look at it. Not sure if he's just a spammer or just really bad at this stuff, or just trying to con his DM or something. It's just bothersome to have some guy scurrying about waving broken-ness all over the place. [[User:Jwguy|Jwguy]] 05:07, 10 July 2011 (MDT)<br />
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:When you see this happening the correct procedure is to undo the edit and explain why it was a non-constructive edit. I did this where it was appropriate. --[[User:Green Dragon|Green Dragon]] 12:23, 29 July 2011 (MDT)<br />
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::Noted. I'm going to continue disliking him, though, and this other IP who keeps breaking loadouts. [[User:Jwguy|Jwguy]] 19:43, 30 July 2011 (MDT)<br />
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:::If he's doing it to a number of articles, I recommend you give a more detailed explanation on his/her talk page. —[[User:Sledged|Sledged]] ([[User talk:Sledged|talk]]) 22:17, 30 July 2011 (MDT)<br />
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::::Well, it was about 20 days ago that I posted this, initially, and I've not seen him around. He seemed to target any page with the word "Dragon" in it, though, as he kept doing it to Dragon Rider, Dragonkin, and so on. That said, I'll get back to him if he shows up, again. The IP, however, does not have a talk page, I don't think, and has not registered, that I've seen. [[User:Jwguy|Jwguy]] 06:39, 31 July 2011 (MDT)<br />
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:::::IP's do have talk pages, they just aren't all that useful unless the person has the same IP the next time they log in. [[User:Jazzman831|Jazz]][[User talk:Jazzman831|Man]] 15:01, 1 August 2011 (MDT)<br />
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== Pathfinder Spells ==<br />
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Would I be allowed to add spells from PathFinders SRD to this site and put it in the Homebrew section. I will make sure each page says that is from the Pathfinder SRD so that the creator's get there credit. --[[User:Milo v3|Milo High-Hill]] 06:24, 19 July 2011 (MDT)<br />
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:Which license are they released under? If it is OGC then by all means, yes. You would want to do it with the same format as something like [[Crime and Punishment - The Players Sourcebook of the Law]]. --[[User:Green Dragon|Green Dragon]] 11:35, 29 July 2011 (MDT)<br />
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::Its OGL. But that means its should be fine then doesn't it. --[[User:Milo v3|Milo High-Hill]] 17:39, 29 July 2011 (MDT)<br />
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:::Yup. If you need any help let me know. --[[User:Green Dragon|Green Dragon]] 17:42, 29 July 2011 (MDT)<br />
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== How else can I help? ==<br />
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I have been making a few pages and have a lot of free time on my hands so I was wonder how else I could be of service. I know wiki formatting enough to piece things together and I can end up doing a pretty good job. [[User:Dsnake1|Dsnake1]] 21:44, 24 July 2011 (MDT)<br />
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:There are many places where you could be of service. For example all [[:Category:Base Class|base classes]] need to be gone through with the [[Meta Pages#Improving, Reviewing, and Removing Articles|Improving, Reviewing, and Removing Articles]] templates. Is this something you may be interested in doing? --[[User:Green Dragon|Green Dragon]] 11:33, 29 July 2011 (MDT)<br />
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== Nomination ==<br />
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Hey Green Dragon,<br />
:Is this a good place to announce a nomination? --[[User:Axl|Axl]] 13:50, 26 July 2011 (MDT)<br />
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::For an article to become a featured article? Just follow the [[Featured Articles#Featured Article Nominees|Featured Article Nominee]] method. An RfA? You should mention it on their talk (if it is you then just make it and it will be posted). --[[User:Green Dragon|Green Dragon]] 11:30, 29 July 2011 (MDT)<br />
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== Geostase ==<br />
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It appears that you are using the name "geostase" as the name of one of your game creatures. Please be advised that geostase is a registered trademark (United States Patent and Trademark Office Registration No. 4,000,187) for our slope stability analysis engineering software. Thank you for your cooperation in not using this name. Best Regards, Dr. Garry H. Gregory, Ph.D., P.E., D.GE Principal Consultant GREGORY GEOTECHNICAL 2001 West 44th Avenue Stillwater, Oklahoma ggregory@gregeo.com {{Unsigned|173.245.50.176|22:10, 30 July 2011 (UTC)}}<br />
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:It can be changed, yes. And feel free to change it. I don't think it applies to us since "A legal presumption of your ownership of the mark and your exclusive right to use the mark nationwide on or in connection with the goods/services listed in the registration; " ([http://www.uspto.gov/faq/trademarks.jsp#_Toc275426681 source]) and it is registered for "Computer programs for stability analysis of soil slopes in the field of engineering." Please correct me if I am wrong. --[[User:Green Dragon|Green Dragon]] 16:31, 30 July 2011 (MDT)<br />
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::Sounds fine, to me. I highly doubt that a small, homebrew'd creature with the same name will interfere with their company operations or deployment, nor does it really fit either of those two items, especially since the first states the trademark only extends as far as connection to those goods and services are concerned, and a D&D creature is certainly not connected to it. [[User:Jwguy|Jwguy]] 19:39, 30 July 2011 (MDT)<br />
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== Question ==<br />
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Greetings, is there a place I can ask questions on here for specific things? As in help on characer creation or ideas for part of a campaign world I am creating? The only place I can think of for stuff like this is the sandbox but.. I highly doubt anyone will actually comment on anything I say or ask. That aside, do you know of any place I can chat with people about these things in real time? I am joining a gestalt campaign here in a few days and have questions regarding item creation, but due to the time between now and actual play, I would like to get feedback instantly versus a few hours to days. Otherwise this wouldnt bother me. Thanks for your time in reading this and even more so if you reply. [[User:Lyrad8791|Lyrad8791]] 23:11, 3 August 2011 (MDT)<br />
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== Greetings. ==<br />
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Greetings, Green Dragon. I really enjoy your site. You have the most fantastic pages. I just wish to Ask how you are holding up? Are the working Spirit Strong? Becourse i hope it is :) It would be sad to see this wonder go inactive. So, i have never tried to Edit anything, but i wish to add a class. Archpriest of Wee Jas. So i hope to contribute. Even if just a little. My most heartfelt thanks for all the great work on this site.<br />
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-Narf- [From twcenter.net]<br />
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== Site nominated for an Award ==<br />
*See: [[Talk:Main_Page#Site_nominated_for_an_Award]] {{User:Hooper/autosig2}} 18:54, 14 August 2011 (MDT)<br />
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== New User Accounts and Spam ==<br />
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As I know you have noticed, we've gotten a recent wave of spammers making accounts, and then posting trash on their user pages that oughtn't be there. Is there a captcha involved with creating a new user account? If not, can there be? If there is, can we check to make sure it's working? Thanks. --[[User:Badger|Badger]] 21:33, 17 August 2011 (MDT)<br />
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:According to [http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/ConfirmEdit_Test_Plan ConfirmEdit's Test Plan] number 4 both number one and two work for me. The ReCaptcha is there and a "Login error Incorrect or missing confirmation code." message shows up with an incorrect confirmation. Maybe automated networks are better then ReCaptcha's is or they are done by humans. --[[User:Green Dragon|Green Dragon]] 22:52, 17 August 2011 (MDT)<br />
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== Foreclosing a Class ==<br />
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This spring I created the [[Enlightened Soul]] prestige class for 3.5. I've been meant to finish it up over the summer, but life, and my limited knowledge of wiki magic, continually got in the way, and I'm sad to say I don't see that changing. I do however still like the idea of the class, and would love to see it finished. My request then, is that you, or someone more interested in it, simply apply the finishing touches. I am absolutely available for any questions you may have. Thanks for your time. --[[User:Lefthandroger|Lefthandroger]] 20:38, 21 August 2011 (MDT)<br />
:Ignore the above. Until my books get in, I have a lot of free time, and have actually more or less finished the Enlightened Soul. Check it out if you'd like.--[[User:Lefthandroger|Lefthandroger]] 07:08, 4 September 2011 (MDT)<br />
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== Requests 5/5 points ==<br />
<br />
I ask to get 5/5.<br />
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I have profoundly coverer,geography,monsters, races, societies, gods<br />
and background stories.<br />
I don't have any adventures thought.<br />
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== A question about deletion ==<br />
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So, I was just wondering, what are our policies on deleting "completed" material? Is there a minimum rating a "finished" class must have, or face deletion? If the general consensus on the discussion page is "make it go away", and it's been at least two weeks, can I delete it without hesitation? --[[User:Badger|Badger]] 15:50, 23 August 2011 (MDT)<br />
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:Not if there is enough content to be playable. Can one play with a few class features for the starting levels? Probably (and then they could improve the class from that stage).<br />
:Anyone can add {{tl|delete}} so criteria is present for the deletion of that content. If you did delete content which was playable you should go back and restore it. --[[User:Green Dragon|Green Dragon]] 19:03, 30 August 2011 (MDT)<br />
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::I'm just looking at classes, like [[Anti-Christ_(3.5e_Class)|this one]], that have been marked for deletion for months. It is marked as a base class, but should be moved to prestige class if we intend to keep it. Anyway, it has class features all spelled out, but it's a mess of formatting, there is virtually no fluff, and the vast majority of the ratings (at least, the ones I trust) have said horrible things about the class. I see no reason why we should bother to keep this class, especially since it has had no productive edits since 2009. However, if you feel this is the type of content you want to keep around, I can just move it to prestige class and swap out <nowiki> {{delete}} for {{wikify}}</nowiki>. In my opinion we should have some sort of "this isn't going to get better and it is terrible now, we might as well trash it" policy. --[[User:Badger|Badger]] 19:41, 30 August 2011 (MDT)<br />
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:::Yes, there is enough content there to keep it. Is it correct? No, it needs work. Things should (if you have enough time please help) work more correctly with the [[Meta Pages#Improving, Reviewing, and Removing Articles|improving, reviewing, and removing articles]] templates. This means that those which do not work should be moved to a separate section (like [[DnD Base Classes]]) and those that do are to be more easily accessible. This removes problems such as [[Anti-Christ_(3.5e_Class)|Anti-Christ]] however leaves it enough room for it to be improved upon. If you have deleted others which are playable (I have found a few, however I have not looked well) please restore those pages. --[[User:Green Dragon|Green Dragon]] 20:00, 30 August 2011 (MDT)<br />
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::::I think I've been pretty careful about deleting content that wasn't up to snuff. I know we disagree on that Taco article, but that may be because it was an April fool's class, and I figured that no one but the original creator would bother to write more fluff for it (it is my opinion that one joke doesn't make a joke page, and that page had very few). I can't think of any pages that I've deleted that were questionable. --[[User:Badger|Badger]] 20:09, 30 August 2011 (MDT)<br />
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:::::I may look more, however you could be rather correct. That was one I found, as well as one with a history earlier then the deletion template was added then was removed to make for the delete template. That was probably just a oversight problem on your part though. --[[User:Green Dragon|Green Dragon]] 21:34, 30 August 2011 (MDT)<br />
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==Jedi base class, prestige class, d20, consolidation==<br />
I stumbled upon the Jedi class here, and although certain aspects of Star Wars should remain out of D&D, I still think the philosophy and characterization is a good thing for roleplaying in the D&D universe, even if the flashy too powerful lightsaber doesn't belong in the hands of a starting character. <br/>I see this class as a fusion of a Paladin and a Monk and a Psion. I don't normally edit here, but I wanted to get started something that cleared up the problem of a start class Jedi. I think that is very wrong, it should take a longer time than than to get there, but I don't think a Padawan class makes sense either as it requires a Master Jedi. Then again, training characters is common, from level to level and for skills and skill improvement, so a Padawan Class might also work. <br/>I started this and hopefully you know of people who are interested in developing it: '''[[Jedi (3.5e Prestige Class)]]'''<br/><br />
I would like to eventually see these base class Jedi removed in favor of Prestige classes.<br />
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[[Jedi Knight (3.5e Class)]]<br/><br />
[[Jedi Sentinel (3.5e Class)]]<br/><br />
[[Jedi Knight (DnD Class)]]<br/><br />
[[Jedi, Alternitive (3.5e Class)]]<br/><br />
[[Jedi Alternatives (3.5e Class)]]<br />
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From the following website:<br />
http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Jedi#Specialization<br />
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'''''JEDI RANKS'''''<br/><br />
# Jedi Initiate <br/><br />
# Jedi Padawan <br/><br />
# Jedi Knight <br/><br />
# Jedi Master <br/><br />
# Jedi Councilor<br/><br />
# Master of the Order <br/><br />
# Grand Master <br/><br/><br />
'''''SPECIALIZATION'''''<br/><br />
Jedi Guardian<br/><br />
# Jedi Ace <br/><br />
# Lightsaber Instructor<br/><br />
# Jedi Peacekeeper <br/><br />
# Jedi Weapon Master <br/><br />
Jedi Consular<br/><br />
# Jedi Ambassador <br/><br />
# Jedi Diplomat <br/><br />
# Jedi Healer <br/><br />
# Jedi Lore Keeper <br/> <br />
# Jedi Researcher <br/><br />
# Jedi Seer <br/><br />
Jedi Sentinel <br/><br />
# Jedi investigator <br/><br />
# Jedi Shadow <br/><br />
# Jedi Watchman <br/><br />
Army of Light ranks<br />
# Jedi Commander <br/><br />
# Jedi General <br/><br />
# Jedi Lord<br/><br />
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None of this necessarily has to do with anything Sci-fi related, I remember reading a copy of the Priest's Handbook and it had a system for creating Religions that included Philosophies instead of Deities. I'll see if I can find another copy and maybe download it. [[Special:Contributions/173.245.55.62|173.245.55.62]] 10:01, 30 August 2011 (MDT)<br />
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== Omissions ==<br />
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The NoBF is missing the Practiced Spellcaster feat.<br />
This feat (and Practiced Turning, probably others) could benefit from a better description of the limitation (such as saying it is mostly to benefit multiclassed characters).<br />
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Searching for edits to the NoBF was totally screwed. I'm not sure about other things listed here, nothing else showed an option to search for edits (I'm busy with other stuff too, so I gave up quick though).<br />
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Show new changes starting from [Todays's Date]<br />
There was no way to change the start date. I don't know if changing the range to 30 days mattered or not, since it still started with "Today".<br />
I think I can safely assume that no changes have been made in the last 16 hours, so the fact that it didn't list any changes means nothing.<br />
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Keep up the good work. :)<br />
<br />
P.S. Don't be seduced by the Dark Side. Stay with D&D and avoid v4.<br />
<br />
EricFranklin@Mail.com<br />
<br />
== Warning policy rework ==<br />
<br />
I'm working on an official warning policy that should more clearly illustrate the purposes of the system. The new policy can be found [[User:Badger/sandbox13|here]]. If you would contribute thoughts on the talk page, that would be most helpful. Thanks. --[[User:Badger|Badger]] 15:58, 4 September 2011 (MDT)<br />
<br />
== 2.5e Homebrew What Links Here ==<br />
<br />
:''Discussion moved to [[Talk:2.5e Homebrew#What Links Here]].'' <small>--[[User:Green Dragon|Green Dragon]] 20:53, 5 September 2011 (MDT)</small><br />
<br />
== Enlightened Soul BAB and save issues ==<br />
<br />
You placed a notice on the [[#enlightened soul (3.5e prestige class)|enlightened soul]] stating that it did not adhere to wiki formatting, as the table does not have BAB and saves listed. While this is accurate, it is also an epic prestige class, and as such adheres to epic rules in this regard. I felt uncomfortable taking down the notice myself, but would highly appreciate it if you would, or leave a fuller explanation why it would be necessary in the talk section. Thanks for your time and your hard work. --[[User:Lefthandroger|Lefthandroger]] 15:31, 6 September 2011 (MDT)<br />
<br />
:Ah, I didn't notice that. Sorry, I forgot to look at the prerequisites. Feel free to remove and add templates as appropriate as that is why they are there. --[[User:Green Dragon|Green Dragon]] 19:36, 6 September 2011 (MDT)<br />
<br />
::Thanks much; I've put a lot of time into that class and am rather proud of it. Is there any chance that it might be featured article material, or, barring that, at least high enough quality to warrant a proper review? Granted, I have no doubt that that requires quite a bit of time from you, but I've rather run into a brick wall in terms of improving the class on my own ideas. As always, thanks for your time and effort. --[[User:Lefthandroger|Lefthandroger]] 15:49, 7 September 2011 (MDT)<br />
<br />
== Help ==<br />
<br />
I can't replace my Vilethrone map.<br />
The old map always appears,.<br />
<br />
:On the [http://media.dandwiki.com media repository] did you use the "''Upload a new version of this file''" option? --[[User:Green Dragon|Green Dragon]] 21:09, 9 September 2011 (MDT)<br />
<br />
::It may also be that the setting of your pixels on your new map image is too small. Put it in without any pixel limit, and then make it smaller as you need it. When it returns to the old map, use the last setting that used your new map. --[[User:Axl|Axl]] 16:12, 29 September 2011 (MDT)<br />
<br />
:::Additionally logging in was not working with Firefox at the time and you may have initially uploaded it with Internet Explorer and then not have seen any options, such as "''Upload a new version of this file''", present. If you see this again please let someone know. --[[User:Green Dragon|Green Dragon]] 12:47, 1 October 2011 (MDT)<br />
<br />
== Spam (again/still) ==<br />
<br />
As I'm sure you've noticed, the spamming is getting a little out of hand. Is something not working right? I thought CAPTCHA was supposed to stop this. [[User:Jazzman831|Jazz]][[User talk:Jazzman831|Man]] 08:48, 17 September 2011 (MDT)<br />
<br />
:Any updates here? [[User:Jazzman831|Jazz]][[User talk:Jazzman831|Man]] 14:36, 4 October 2011 (MDT)<br />
<br />
::The default CloudFlare threat challenge page settings have now been changed to "high" so more suspicious traffic will be challenged with Captchas. Does this help? --[[User:Green Dragon|Green Dragon]] 16:46, 8 October 2011 (MDT)<br />
<br />
:::Hopefully that'll do the trick without catching too many "real" editors. I guess we will have to wait and see. [[User:Jazzman831|Jazz]][[User talk:Jazzman831|Man]] 22:57, 8 October 2011 (MDT)<br />
<br />
::::Hard to say...but, i think spam is hurting the wiki, and if these are our counter measures, we have to use them. However, maybe we could implement them to only hit someone on log on, not every time they visit the front page. --[[User:Ganre|Ganre]] 21:10, 9 January 2012 (MST)<br />
<br />
:::::[https://www.cloudflare.com/plans Here] are their options. --[[User:Green Dragon|Green Dragon]] 11:38, 10 January 2012 (MST)<br />
<br />
== 2e Management ==<br />
<br />
I was actually wondering if I could help edit the many articles that could come into 2e Homebrew (e.g making guidelines, telling people if thier customs break rules ETC.)<br />
<br />
:Please do. [[2.5e Homebrew]] as well as [[:Category:2.5e]] provide direction as to where 2.5e pages can be found. --[[User:Green Dragon|Green Dragon]] 14:11, 1 October 2011 (MDT)<br />
<br />
== 2e Management ==<br />
<br />
I was actually wondering if I could help edit the many articles that could come into 2e Homebrew (e.g making guidelines, telling people if thier customs break rules ETC.)<br />
<br />
== Can Spammers be a 4e Race? ==<br />
<br />
I'm tired of the non-paid advertising put on this site. I was wondering, therefore, if it would be okay if I create a race out of these 'spammers', a.k.a. those whose only purpose on this site is to make it their own free commercial. Or would that be against the warning policy? I wouldn't say or write anything threatening or offensive, although the people sending spam should be criticized for a lack of decency. It's a shame that such a good site is being infiltrated by these advertisements, and it's also a shame to all companies who rightfully ''pay'' to have a product advertised instead of taking advantage of the internet. Anyways, I just wanted to know whether or not I could create a scathing "Spammer (4e Race)" If not, then that's okay. (Also note, I won't be able to be on the site for the next two days, but after that I would have all the time in the world to create the race, if it's acceptable.) --[[User:Obake|Obake]] 20:04, 30 September 2011 (MDT)<br />
<br />
:Don't include any swear words, external links, or advertisements. Do include the template <nowiki>{{April_Fools}}</nowiki>. Have fun. --[[User:Badger|Badger]] 23:24, 30 September 2011 (MDT)<br />
<br />
== Just wanted to let you know ==<br />
<br />
Hey green dragon. It's me, Dj00345. Since I created the 2.5e Homebrew, I have been watching the recent changes log to see if anyone creates anything for the 2.5e Homebrew. I just fixed one page created by someone, they forgot the categories that would link it to a certain page, I was wondering if I can do that for any 2.5e page that doesn't make it to the right places??? Apparently when I created the Homebrew, something happened that screwed things up. Just wanted to let you know. [[User:Dj00345|Dj00345]] 17:08, 7 October 2011 (MDT)<br />
<br />
:Yes, if someone creates a page in the wrong place or forgets to add the correct categories, feel free to fix it if you know the correct place it should be. [[User:Jazzman831|Jazz]][[User talk:Jazzman831|Man]] 19:21, 7 October 2011 (MDT)<br />
<br />
::You can feel free to do this for any page in the wrong place, not just ones in 2.5e. It's one of those jobs that admins tend to do, but anyone can move a page if they want. --[[User:Badger|Badger]] 20:00, 7 October 2011 (MDT)<br />
<br />
::: ok was just making sure! Thanks! [[User:Dj00345|Dj00345]] 20:11, 7 October 2011 (MDT)<br />
<br />
== New 4e Deity Template ==<br />
<br />
Hey Green Dragon,<br />
:I created a new Deity Template that follows the 4e Player's Handbook. It's [[User:Axl/My Sandbox/4e Deity Template|here.]] I am also going to do a Racial Hybrid system like the Class Hybrid system. If there's any ideas for that, I'm open for suggestions. I'll create a draft of it in my sandbox.<br />
<br />
--[[User:Axl|Axl]] 17:06, 14 October 2011 (MDT)<br />
<br />
::I'm finished with my Racial Hybrid system, if you want to check [[User:Axl/My Sandbox/Racial Hybrid System|it]]. --[[User:Axl|Axl]] 11:39, 5 November 2011 (MDT)<br />
<br />
== Welcome Message ==<br />
<br />
I'm not really sure what your system is, but you could probably save yourself some time if you only welcomed the people who were still around. I counted about 30 people in this most recent batch that I have blocked for being spammers. [[User:Jazzman831|Jazz]][[User talk:Jazzman831|Man]] 20:23, 30 October 2011 (MDT)<br />
<br />
:It would probably save time, true, but in any case I just go up the user creation log so I click them in any case. --[[User:Green Dragon|Green Dragon]] 20:28, 30 October 2011 (MDT)<br />
<br />
== Cloud flare ==<br />
<br />
The new ip protection tool you are using is stop ping me from accessing at work<br />
<br />
:What is the error message you are getting exactly? Does it prompt for a captcha? Was this the case a month ago (before the protection settings were increased based off levels of vandalism)? --[[User:Green Dragon|Green Dragon]] 18:03, 2 November 2011 (MDT)<br />
<br />
::Mind if I pop in here? Are you sure that it's the ip protection tool, or if it's your work place blocking it? --[[User:Axl|Axl]] 21:43, 4 November 2011 (MDT)<br />
<br />
== 4e Race Preload ==<br />
<br />
:''Discussion moved to [[Talk:4e Race Preload#Racial Options]].'' <small>--[[User:Green Dragon|Green Dragon]] 12:15, 21 December 2011 (MST)</small><br />
<br />
== Restarting the Warmage ==<br />
<br />
Hey Green Dragon. I appreciate the effort on your part on keeping my idea from being deleted over the past couple of years. I've seriously neglected completing it, but to be honest I was in the process of creating powers as I posted the first information on the class over two years ago. I've recently happened upon my old notebooks and have been revising old powers I'd written there (but not posted here) and have reformed my approach to the class. I'm currently in school for Game Art and Design, so this is a wonderful outlet for my Systems Design work. As such, I'll be completing this class over the next few months.<br />
<br />
Again, I thank you for your unexpected patience in this matter.<br />
<br />
--[[User:Biral|Biral]] 18:22, 28 November 2011 (MST)<br />
<br />
== Help and review ==<br />
== Greetings Green Dragon ==<br><br />
I am but a humble servant of fantasy world and seek to enlighten my self.<br><br />
I have contributed a few things to this wiki and have used a lot more for my own campaigns.<br><br />
But so fare I haven't seen much user activity on this mighty site other then new things being added from time to time.<br><br />
I know there is a discussion page for literally every thing in her, but they don't seam to be used that much (or am I just browsing the wrong subjects?).<br><br />
<br><br />
There fore I write to you as the first administrator I have detected and humbly ask if there is a place where I can ask people so go over my additions?<br><br />
Also I would like to use this opportunity to applaud you for you work as I know that it can sometimes be frustrating being an admin.<br><br />
<br><br />
Sincerely<br><br />
[[http://www.dandwiki.com/wiki/User:ElvenKingSlave Elven King Slave]]<br />
<br />
:Which pages in particular? --[[User:Green Dragon|Green Dragon]] 21:43, 28 November 2011 (MST)<br />
<br />
:: If you go to my user page they are all linked under "my submissions", but her they are for quick reference.<br />
::[[http://www.dandwiki.com/wiki/Weapon_Summoner_(3.5e_Class)#Class_Features Weapon Summoner(3.5 class)]][[http://www.dandwiki.com/wiki/Boltgun_(3.5e_Equipment) Boltgun(3.5 Equipment)]][[http://www.dandwiki.com/wiki/Lasgun_(3.5e_Equipment) Lasgun(3.5 Equipment)]][[http://www.dandwiki.com/wiki/Shield_Knight_(3.5e_Prestige_Class) Shield_Knight_(3.5e_Prestige_Class)]]<br><br />
::--<span style="font-family:albertus mt; font-variant:small-caps; margin-left:4px; border:2px solid #501010;"><span style="background:#CA2020; border:3px solid #7B0E0E; padding:0px 5px 0px 5px;">'''[[User:ElvenKingSlave|<span style="color:gold; font-size:75%;">ElvenKingSlave</span>]]'''&nbsp;<font color="white">&middot;</font>&nbsp;[[Exalted Wiki:Human|<span style="color:gold; font-size:75%;" title="I will drown you in daggers!">Weapons Summoner</span>]]&nbsp;<font color="white">&middot;</font>&nbsp;[[User talk:ElvenKingSlave|<span style="color:gold; font-size:75%;" title="Contact me">Talk</span></span>]]</span> 02:09, 29 November 2011 (MST)<br />
<br />
:::I took a look at them. --[[User:Green Dragon|Green Dragon]] 13:09, 1 December 2011 (MST)<br />
<br />
::::Thanks ill find time to adjust them. --<span style="font-family:albertus mt; font-variant:small-caps; margin-left:4px; border:2px solid #501010;"><span style="background:#CA2020; border:3px solid #7B0E0E; padding:0px 5px 0px 5px;">'''[[User:ElvenKingSlave|<span style="color:gold; font-size:75%;">ElvenKingSlave</span>]]'''&nbsp;<font color="white">&middot;</font>&nbsp;[[Exalted Wiki:Human|<span style="color:gold; font-size:75%;" title="I will drown you in daggers!">Weapons Summoner</span>]]&nbsp;<font color="white">&middot;</font>&nbsp;[[User talk:ElvenKingSlave|<span style="color:gold; font-size:75%;" title="Contact me">Talk</span></span>]]</span> 15:23, 1 December 2011 (MST)<br />
<br />
:::::No problem. If you need any help let me know. --[[User:Green Dragon|Green Dragon]] 16:42, 1 December 2011 (MST)<br />
<br />
::::::I have done some changes as you suggested and since none of my friends come with any constructive suggestions I would like you to look at it again when you have time and tell me if its still underpowered (If I understood your balance issue correct) --<span style="font-family:albertus mt; font-variant:small-caps; margin-left:4px; border:2px solid #501010;"><span style="background:#CA2020; border:3px solid #7B0E0E; padding:0px 5px 0px 5px;">'''[[User:ElvenKingSlave|<span style="color:gold; font-size:75%;">ElvenKingSlave</span>]]'''&nbsp;<font color="white">&middot;</font>&nbsp;[[Exalted Wiki:Human|<span style="color:gold; font-size:75%;" title="I will drown you in daggers!">Weapons Summoner</span>]]&nbsp;<font color="white">&middot;</font>&nbsp;[[User talk:ElvenKingSlave|<span style="color:gold; font-size:75%;" title="Contact me">Talk</span></span>]]</span> 08:08, 2 December 2011 (MST)<br />
<br />
:::::::I took a look at it again. If you need any help let me know. --[[User:Green Dragon|Green Dragon]] 11:31, 2 December 2011 (MST)<br />
<br />
::::::::I have redone most of the features and would like an opinion when you have time. --<span style="font-family:albertus mt; font-variant:small-caps; margin-left:4px; border:2px solid #501010;"><span style="background:#CA2020; border:3px solid #7B0E0E; padding:0px 5px 0px 5px;">'''[[User:ElvenKingSlave|<span style="color:gold; font-size:75%;">ElvenKingSlave</span>]]'''&nbsp;<font color="white">&middot;</font>&nbsp;[[Exalted Wiki:Human|<span style="color:gold; font-size:75%;" title="I will drown you in daggers!">Weapons Summoner</span>]]&nbsp;<font color="white">&middot;</font>&nbsp;[[User talk:ElvenKingSlave|<span style="color:gold; font-size:75%;" title="Contact me">Talk</span></span>]]</span> 04:46, 5 December 2011 (MST)<br />
<br />
== Sourcebook/Campaign ==<br />
<br />
Hi Green Dragon, I wonder if it is possible to put a Campaign in the sourcebook section. I think this would make reading and understanding the Campaign easier. --[[User:Warkan|Warkan]] 18:03, 28 November 2011 (MST)<br />
<br />
:Of course. It may make sense to link to the campaign as appropriate. --[[User:Green Dragon|Green Dragon]] 21:42, 28 November 2011 (MST)<br />
<br />
::I don't understand your answer. <br />
::I think this might be because I didn't explain myself enough. I want to contribute an adventure but find that the source book template would make it way simpler to understand. So can I put an adventure in the sourcebook section? --[[User:Warkan|Warkan]] 08:25, 29 November 2011 (MST)<br />
<br />
:::I worded it to be vague ''';)'''. I did this because you should link to it or transclude it. If your wiki syntax has not reached this level of understanding I intended my answer to imply that you could supply a link (and I would fix it). Of course neither must be the case as eventually it would be corrected one way or the other&ndash; no matter how you went about it. --[[User:Green Dragon|Green Dragon]] 22:36, 29 November 2011 (MST)<br />
<br />
Thanks for clarifying. I have not actually put the campaign up yet, but when I do, I will link it here. --[[User:Warkan|Warkan]] 19:53, 30 November 2011 (MST)<br />
<br />
== Formatting and licensing for transcriptions ==<br />
<br />
Greetings-<br />
I've been working on and off on transcribing one of Mongoose Publishing's books in the Quintessential series ([[The Quintessential Monk]]). I'm pretty sure I've been getting the formatting in acceptable shape, but would love someone with an experienced eye to take a look. However, the main question I have is about the OGL. I've been taking the "please help transcribe" tags on [[3.5e_Open_Game_Content|this]] page at face value, and have basically been doing just that: a word-for-word transcription. Are there exceptions or limitations to what can and can't be legally duplicated on the internet? I'm not very clear on how the OGL works. Any help would be greatly appreciated. Thank you. --[[User:Klichka|Klichka]] 17:21, 6 December 2011 (MST)<br />
<br />
:The formatting works. The ideal is like [[Crime and Punishment - The Players Sourcebook of the Law]] with the links but if you don't do it like that someone will come along eventually and format it like that.<br />
:You can post every word. The exceptions are Product Identity which basically can only be used by Wizards anyway. --[[User:Green Dragon|Green Dragon]] 11:58, 10 January 2012 (MST)<br />
<br />
== Looking for advice... and help. ==<br />
<br />
I have built a few things here on the D&DWiki page, all under the 3.5 sections; (Jachyrines, Matter Shifter, Velloreans, SoulChain Warrior, Slithzirkhai and a few others).<br />
<br />
I am trying to find someone who can look these over and tell me if I have over-powered them or made the Level Adjustment on the races right.<br />
<br />
Also, I am looking at building two "mirror" 3.5 classes, the Lunarian and Solarian... Basically mages that draw their power from the Moon and Sun, respectively. I am wanting to do it up like the psion with "Spell Points" vs a set number of spells per day, so they have like a set amoung of "Lunar Power" or "Solar Power" to cast spells with. Its just I want to make sure I go about it right, so if you know of anyone who can give me advice on how to go about this without overpowering it, but not making it completely weak and useless, that'd be great. And yes, they'd each have powers they gain on certain levels related to their source of power.<br />
<br />
Also, is there any word on getting the small book "Secret College of Necromancy" transcribed into the site? I used to own it, my ex lost it, and now I can't find a new one. Just curious.<br />
<br />
Many Thanks for any help;<br />
Tom.<br />
<br />
== Redirect ==<br />
<br />
Um, the redirect isn't working properly. I want to move my <s>User: Axl/My Sandbox/4e Future Power</s> to [[User: Axl/My Sandbox/4e Future Power Preload]], but it already has that name as a redirect. While I was trying to move it, I clicked the cancel button on my browser so that I could change it to the latter link, but it instead goes to the former when I click on the link. Can this be fixed, and when is the 4e Power creator going to be fixed? The reason why I created the 4e Future Power Preload was so that I would not have to type out the links that say <!-[[Main Page]] &rarr; [[4e Homebrew|Homebrew]] &rarr;-> etc. What I'll do is I'll create a breadcrumb that I'll just type into the power while I'm creating it, but could you fix the redirect? Thanks. --[[User:Axl|Axl]] 17:30, 24 December 2011 (MST)<br />
<br />
:Are those pages now how you wanted them to be?<br />
:Also, [[Add New 4e Power]] is working&ndash; or what do you mean is not? --[[User:Green Dragon|Green Dragon]] 12:46, 27 December 2011 (MST)<br />
<br />
::When I tried it in my D&D 4.0 Future sourcebook, it didn't work. I thought that the add power in my sourcebook and the homebrew was the same. I have since changed it. I'll try it again, this time in the homebrew. Thanks. --[[User:Axl|Axl]] 22:30, 30 December 2011 (MST)<br />
<br />
::Oh, did you fix the redirector? I said it wrong. I said "could you fix the redirect?" when I should have said "could you fix the redirector?". Sorry about that. I'm deleting the 4e Future Power Preload. Sorry for the hassle. --[[User:Axl|Axl]] 22:31, 30 December 2011 (MST)<br />
<br />
== 4e race design guideline ==<br />
<br />
Hi Green Dragon, just a quick question about my article [[4e Race Design (DnD Guideline)]]. I see it's been copied to [[4e Race Add Instructions]] - If make further updates (and I do have some planned), will this need to be copied over manually? I was also hoping someone else familiar with 4e mechanics could check through this before it's used "officially", what do you think? ''':)''' [[User:Marasmusine|Marasmusine]] 07:20, 4 January 2012 (MST)<br />
<br />
:I read through it and it seemed to cover the design bases well. And no, when you change it will automatically change (it is transcluded). --[[User:Green Dragon|Green Dragon]] 14:25, 4 January 2012 (MST)<br />
::Great, thanks. [[User:Marasmusine|Marasmusine]] 15:50, 4 January 2012 (MST)<br />
<br />
== Stub tag removal ==<br />
<br />
I recently created a new prestige class, [[Badass (3.5e Prestige Class)]]. It isn't rated yet or anything, but for the most part it is complete. How do I go about getting the stub tag removed? -[[User:Silverkin|Silverkin]] 15:01, 4 January 2012 (MST)<br />
<br />
:Does the wording on [[Template:Stub]] make more sense now? --[[User:Green Dragon|Green Dragon]] 15:45, 4 January 2012 (MST)<br />
<br />
== Fixing double redirects ==<br />
<br />
There are quite a few double redirects to be cleaned up manually, and they have been accumulating far faster than they have been fixed manually. Due to this, I was wondering if it would be worth it to have a programming adept wiki user, or hire somebody in your area to design a program to automatically fix the problem by cleaning up double redirects. I'm fairly certain Wikipedia has a [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Computer_help_desk/double_redirect_study form of this]. Would it be possible to base the program off a similar idea? With the number of double redirects growing it may be worth investing the time. On a similar note, if a program like this is made, would it be possible to alter it slightly to perform other menial tasks around the wiki such as moving (DnD) pages to their respective edition? I realize many of them have already been moved, however some are still in the wrong places. --[[Special:Contributions/173.245.55.116|173.245.55.116]] 22:05, 8 January 2012 (MST)<br />
<br />
:Does the following python code help you?<br />
<pre>#!/usr/bin/python3.0<br />
<br />
# This program is free software: you can redistribute it and/or modify<br />
# it under the terms of the GNU General Public License as published by<br />
# the Free Software Foundation, either version 3 of the License, or<br />
# (at your option) any later version.<br />
#<br />
# This program is distributed in the hope that it will be useful,<br />
# but WITHOUT ANY WARRANTY; without even the implied warranty of<br />
# MERCHANTABILITY or FITNESS FOR A PARTICULAR PURPOSE. See the<br />
# GNU General Public License for more details.<br />
#<br />
# You should have received a copy of the GNU General Public License<br />
# along with this program. If not, see <http://www.gnu.org/licenses/>.<br />
<br />
# We need to use the urllib library to access MediaWiki's API<br />
import urllib.request<br />
from urllib.parse import quote_plus, urlencode<br />
from urllib.error import URLError, HTTPError<br />
from http.cookiejar import CookieJar<br />
<br />
# Also, to parse the output data we need to handle XML<br />
import xml.dom.minidom as minidom<br />
<br />
# We need to handle HTML parsing<br />
from html.parser import HTMLParser<br />
import re<br />
<br />
# We need to be able to handle temporary download files<br />
from uuid import uuid4<br />
import os<br />
<br />
# Here, we are going to build an HTML parser for editing pages<br />
class EditPageParser(HTMLParser):<br />
# We are looking for:<br />
wpStarttime = ''<br />
wpEdittime = ''<br />
wpEditToken = ''<br />
wpSave = ''<br />
wpAutoSummary = ''<br />
<br />
def handle_starttag(self, tag, attrs):<br />
# Determine if this is a tag we are interested in<br />
if tag == "input":<br />
name = ""<br />
value = ""<br />
for attr in attrs:<br />
if str(attr[0]) == "value":<br />
value = str(attr[1])<br />
elif str(attr[0]) == "name":<br />
name = str(attr[1])<br />
<br />
# Now, we can save the value to the given vars<br />
if name == "wpStarttime":<br />
self.wpStarttime = value<br />
elif name == "wpEdittime":<br />
self.wpEdittime = value<br />
elif name == "wpEditToken":<br />
self.wpEditToken = value<br />
elif name == "wpSave":<br />
self.wpSave = value<br />
elif name == "wpAutoSummary":<br />
self.wpAutoSummary = value<br />
<br />
class MWBot:<br />
"""This is the most basic structure for a simple MediaWiki bot.<br />
<br />
It supports the following functions:<br />
"""<br />
<br />
def __init__(self, wikiurl):<br />
"""This will set the URL for this instance to the provided URL<br />
<br />
Parameters:<br />
The arguments should look something like the following:<br />
wikiurl = "http://www.WIKINAME.com/w/"<br />
"""<br />
<br />
self.url = wikiurl<br />
self.cookiejar = CookieJar()<br />
<br />
# We need a regular expression to parse the content from a textarea<br />
self.wpTextbox1_sub = re.compile(<br />
r"""^.*<textarea.*?name="wpTextbox1".*?>(.*?)</textarea>.*$""", \<br />
re.I | re.M | re.S)<br />
<br />
def _retrieve_page(self, url, headers=None, post=None):<br />
"""This function will retrieve and return the given URL"""<br />
<br />
opener = urllib.request.build_opener(urllib.request.HTTPCookieProcessor(self.cookiejar))<br />
data = None<br />
if post:<br />
data = urlencode(post)<br />
try:<br />
request = opener.open(url, data=data)<br />
except HTTPError as e:<br />
print('Request failed with HTTP error code: %s' % e.code)<br />
return (None, None)<br />
except URLError as e:<br />
print('Request to URL failed: %s' % e.reason)<br />
return (None, None)<br />
<br />
# Now, save the file [hack]<br />
filename = "/tmp/MWBot.download-%s" % uuid4()<br />
with open(filename, 'wb') as fh:<br />
fh.write(request.read())<br />
headers = request.headers<br />
<br />
# We need to read in and load the file<br />
with open(filename, 'r') as fh:<br />
result = fh.read()<br />
<br />
# Now remove the temporary file<br />
os.remove(filename)<br />
<br />
# Now, we should have the appropriate response page<br />
return (result,headers)<br />
<br />
def _list_request(self, args, keep, keepchildren=None, cont=None):<br />
"""This function will perform a basic request to the API for lists<br />
<br />
Parameters:<br />
The arguments for the request should be a dict in args, structured<br />
in the following manner: {'action': 'query', 'prop': '...} etc.<br />
<br />
The XML args desired should be stored in the list keep.<br />
<br />
If keepchildren is specified, then any child nodes in keepchildren<br />
will be have their first child's content saved<br />
<br />
If cont is true, then the query-continue field will be returned<br />
<br />
Returns:<br />
A list of all XML items found in keep. This will be a list of<br />
args in a dict.<br />
"""<br />
<br />
# First, we need to build the query URL<br />
# TODO: Sanitize inputs!<br />
url = self.url + "api.php"<br />
url += "?format=xml"<br />
for arg in args:<br />
url += "&%s=%s" % (quote_plus(arg), quote_plus(args[arg]))<br />
<br />
# Perform the actual request<br />
(result,headers) = self._retrieve_page(url)<br />
if not result:<br />
return False<br />
<br />
# Now, we need to parse the XML response<br />
# We are only going to keep the XML args specified in keep<br />
dom = minidom.parseString(result)<br />
<br />
# We want to keep stuff in the query<br />
query = dom.getElementsByTagName("api")[0]\<br />
.getElementsByTagName("query")[0]<br />
<br />
main_query = query.lastChild<br />
<br />
# We can look through all items to main_query,<br />
# saving items in keep<br />
list = []<br />
for item in main_query.childNodes:<br />
temp = {}<br />
# Grab all of the items<br />
for wanted in keep:<br />
temp[wanted] = item.getAttribute(wanted)<br />
if keepchildren:<br />
for child in keepchildren:<br />
content = item.getElementsByTagName(child)[0].firstChild.\<br />
firstChild.data<br />
temp[child] = content<br />
# Now, add this result to the global list<br />
list.append(temp)<br />
<br />
# Determine if we want to keep the continue<br />
new_cont = None<br />
if cont:<br />
try:<br />
query_continue = dom.getElementsByTagName("api")[0]\<br />
.getElementsByTagName("query-continue")[0]<br />
child = query_continue.firstChild<br />
new_cont = child.getAttribute(cont)<br />
except:<br />
new_cont = None<br />
<br />
if cont:<br />
return list, new_cont<br />
else:<br />
return cont<br />
<br />
def start_edit_page(self, title):<br />
"""Return the content of a page about to be edited"""<br />
<br />
# First, we need to get:<br />
# wpStarttime<br />
# wpEdittime<br />
# wpEditToken<br />
# wpSave<br />
# wpAutoSummary<br />
<br />
# We are going to need to request the "action=edit" page<br />
url = self.url + "index.php"<br />
url += "?title=" + quote_plus(title)<br />
url += "&action=edit"<br />
(editpage,editpage_headers) = self._retrieve_page(url)<br />
if not editpage:<br />
return False<br />
<br />
# Then, we can pass this page through our parser<br />
self.editparser = EditPageParser()<br />
self.editparser.feed(editpage)<br />
<br />
# Unfortunately, we cannot use the parser to grab the page content<br />
# (it breaks on brackets)<br />
# Thus, we will use regular expressions<br />
content = re.sub(self.wpTextbox1_sub, r"\g<1>", editpage)<br />
<br />
# We need to unescape this<br />
content = content.replace("&gt;", ">").replace("&lt;", "<")<br />
content = content.replace("&quot;", "\"").replace("&amp;", "&")<br />
content = content.rstrip()<br />
<br />
# We can now return the content to be modified<br />
return content<br />
<br />
def finish_edit_page(self, title, newcontent, summary):<br />
"""This will complete editing a given page"""<br />
<br />
# First, we need to construct the POST fields<br />
data = []<br />
data.append(("wpStarttime", self.editparser.wpStarttime))<br />
data.append(("wpEdittime", self.editparser.wpEdittime))<br />
data.append(("wpEditToken", self.editparser.wpEditToken))<br />
data.append(("wpSave", self.editparser.wpSave))<br />
data.append(("wpMinoredit", "1"))<br />
data.append(("wpAutoSummary", self.editparser.wpAutoSummary))<br />
<br />
# We need to include the new page contents as well as the edit summary<br />
data.append(("wpTextbox1", newcontent))<br />
data.append(("wpSummary", summary))<br />
<br />
# Now, we need to perform the actual request<br />
url = self.url + "index.php"<br />
url += "?title=" + quote_plus(title)<br />
url += "&action=submit"<br />
(editpage,editpage_headers) = self._retrieve_page(url, post=data)<br />
<br />
if not editpage:<br />
return False<br />
<br />
# We are done with the given editparser<br />
del self.editparser<br />
<br />
return True<br />
<br />
def edit_page(self, title, newcontent, summary):<br />
"""This will edit the give page"""<br />
<br />
# Load the page to be editted<br />
self.start_edit_page(title)<br />
<br />
# Then, finish the page and return the result<br />
return self.finish_edit_page(title, newcontent, summary)<br />
<br />
def get_embeddedin_pagetitles(self, pagetitle, cont=None):<br />
"""This will return a list of all page ids of pages embedded in<br />
<br />
Parameters:<br />
The title of the page being queried must be specified<br />
The title to continue at<br />
<br />
Returns:<br />
A list of the pageids of embedded pages<br />
The title to continue with<br />
<br />
Note: This will return the first 50 results.<br />
"""<br />
<br />
# First, we need to construct the query<br />
args = {}<br />
args["action"] = "query"<br />
args["list"] = "embeddedin"<br />
args["eititle"] = pagetitle<br />
args["eilimit"] = "50"<br />
if cont:<br />
args["eicontinue"] = cont<br />
<br />
# Now, we can query for the page<br />
keep = []<br />
keep.append("title")<br />
<br />
result, new_cont = self._list_request(args, keep, None, "eicontinue")<br />
if result == False:<br />
return False<br />
<br />
# To just return the page ids, we need to <br />
# move all of the data out of dictionaries<br />
titles = []<br />
for item in result:<br />
titles.append(item["title"])<br />
<br />
return titles, new_cont<br />
<br />
def get_page_contents(self, pageid=None, pagetitle=None):<br />
"""This will return the contents of a page<br />
<br />
Parameters:<br />
You can query for the particular page by either page id or page<br />
title. If pageid is set, then pagetitle will be ignored.<br />
<br />
Returns:<br />
The contents of the page<br />
"""<br />
<br />
# First, we need to construct the appropriate query<br />
args = {}<br />
args["action"] = "query"<br />
args["prop"] = "revisions"<br />
args["rvprop"] = "content"<br />
# Determine whether to use pageid or pagetitle<br />
if pageid:<br />
args["pageids"] = pageid<br />
else:<br />
args["titles"] = pagetitle<br />
<br />
# Now, we can query for the page<br />
keep = []<br />
keep.append("title")<br />
keepchildren = []<br />
keepchildren.append("revisions")<br />
<br />
result = self._list_request(args, keep, keepchildren)<br />
if result == False:<br />
return false<br />
<br />
return result[0]['revisions']<br />
<br />
def login(self, username, password):<br />
"""This will log in a given user<br />
<br />
Parameters:<br />
username - a string containing the username to log in as<br />
password - a string containing the password to use to login<br />
"""<br />
<br />
# We need to construct the login URL<br />
url = self.url + "api.php?format=xml"<br />
<br />
data = []<br />
data.append(("action", "login"))<br />
data.append(("lgname", username))<br />
data.append(("lgpassword", password))<br />
<br />
# Now, carry out the login request<br />
(page, headers) = self._retrieve_page(url, post=data)<br />
<br />
# Now, we need to parse and send the request again, but this time<br />
# with the login token as well<br />
dom = minidom.parseString(page)<br />
<br />
# We want to get the login token<br />
token = dom.getElementsByTagName("api")[0]\<br />
.getElementsByTagName("login")[0].getAttribute("token")<br />
data.append(("lgtoken", token))<br />
<br />
# Now, we want carry out the login request again<br />
(page, headers) = self._retrieve_page(url, post=data)<br />
<br />
# TODO: Carry out a "is this success" procedure<br />
if not page:<br />
return False<br />
<br />
return True</pre><br />
:The following shows how to use the above code.<br />
<pre>#!/usr/bin/python3.0<br />
<br />
# This program is free software: you can redistribute it and/or modify<br />
# it under the terms of the GNU General Public License as published by<br />
# the Free Software Foundation, either version 3 of the License, or<br />
# (at your option) any later version.<br />
#<br />
# This program is distributed in the hope that it will be useful,<br />
# but WITHOUT ANY WARRANTY; without even the implied warranty of<br />
# MERCHANTABILITY or FITNESS FOR A PARTICULAR PURPOSE. See the<br />
# GNU General Public License for more details.<br />
#<br />
# You should have received a copy of the GNU General Public License<br />
# along with this program. If not, see <http://www.gnu.org/licenses/>.<br />
<br />
# We need to use the MWBot<br />
from mwbot import MWBot<br />
<br />
# We need to use regular expressions<br />
import re<br />
<br />
# Also, we want to flush output<br />
import sys<br />
<br />
# Load the bot specifically for D&D wiki<br />
bot = MWBot("http://www.dandwiki.com/w/")<br />
<br />
# First, login as Green Dragon<br />
bot.login("USERNAME", "PASSWORD")<br />
<br />
# We need some regular expressions to match<br />
authors_match = re.compile(r"""\|authors=.*?\n""", re.I | re.M | re.S)<br />
datecreated_match = re.compile(r"""\|datecreated=.*?\n""", re.I | re.M | re.S)<br />
adopters_match = re.compile(r"""\|adopters=.*?\n""", re.I | re.M | re.S)<br />
dateadopted_match = re.compile(r"""\|dateadopted=.*?\n""", re.I | re.M | re.S)<br />
<br />
# Retrieve the list of pages embedding Template:Author<br />
cont = None<br />
pages, cont = bot.get_embeddedin_pagetitles("Template:DnD Racial Paragon Class Infobox", cont=cont)<br />
while pages:<br />
<br />
print("Found pages: ")<br />
print(pages)<br />
print("\nWorking:")<br />
<br />
for page in pages:<br />
# Work on each page found<br />
print("\t> %s" % page, end="")<br />
sys.stdout.flush()<br />
<br />
# If this page contains a colon, warn it<br />
if page.find(":") != -1:<br />
with open('infobox_author_removal.badlist.txt', 'a') as fh:<br />
fh.write("WW\tPage name has a colon: %s\n" % page)<br />
<br />
# If the page is a talk page, don't touch it<br />
if page.find("talk:") != -1:<br />
print(" ! Will not edit talk page.")<br />
with open('infobox_author_removal.badlist.txt', 'a') as fh:<br />
fh.write("EE\tTried to modify talk page: %s\n" % page)<br />
continue<br />
<br />
# Grab the content from the page<br />
contents = bot.start_edit_page(page)<br />
contents_old = contents<br />
<br />
# Find and remove the |authors= part<br />
contents = re.sub(authors_match, "", contents)<br />
<br />
# Find and remove the |datecreated= part<br />
contents = re.sub(datecreated_match, "", contents)<br />
<br />
# Find and remove the |adopters= part<br />
contents = re.sub(adopters_match, "", contents)<br />
<br />
# Find and remove the |dateadopted= part<br />
contents = re.sub(dateadopted_match, "", contents)<br />
<br />
# Check and see if there was no change here<br />
if contents == contents_old:<br />
print(" ! ERROR: No change made")<br />
with open('infobox_author_removal.badlist.txt', 'a') as fh:<br />
fh.write("EE\tDid not make any change: %s\n" % page)<br />
continue<br />
<br />
# Save the new contents back<br />
success = bot.finish_edit_page(page, contents, r"""Removed history related parameters -- If necessary please use the "Watch this page" checkbox for authorship. Keep in mind "my preferences" -> "E-mail me when a page I'm watching is changed".""")<br />
if success == False:<br />
print(" ! unable to save changes.")<br />
with open('infobox_author_removal.badlist.txt', 'a') as fh:<br />
fh.write("EE\tUnable to save changes: %s\n" % page)<br />
else:<br />
print(" corrected.")<br />
<br />
print("")<br />
<br />
if cont == None:<br />
print("")<br />
print("No more continuation")<br />
sys.exit(0)<br />
<br />
# Load the next set of pages <br />
pages, cont = bot.get_embeddedin_pagetitles("Template:DnD Base Class Infobox", cont)<br />
<br />
print("Continue at:")<br />
print(cont)</pre><br />
:--[[User:Green Dragon|Green Dragon]] 20:48, 9 January 2012 (MST)<br />
<br />
::It's also worth mentioning that this particular user has been blanking pages outside of the rules and guidelines of dandwiki. Please do not do that. Propose deletion instead, or make a discussion about it. Never just blank a page, as that can and often is seen as vandalism. [[User:Jwguy|Jwguy]] 14:35, 23 February 2012 (MST)<br />
<br />
== Deity Ranks ==<br />
<br />
For some reason their is an error with the deity pages. In the Divine Rank field, when you enter in an applicable information it comes up as {{{DR}}} on the actual page. --[[User:Milo v3|Milo High-Hill]] 05:55, 12 January 2012 (MST)<br />
<br />
:I made the divine rank parameter only show up when text is present in that parameter. --[[User:Green Dragon|Green Dragon]] 09:55, 8 March 2012 (MST)<br />
<br />
== Forging your own items ==<br />
<br />
Hey! if you reach certain level, are you able to forge, or even create your own weapons, armor, ect. Cuz i wanna make "shell armor" (armor resembling the shell of an armadillo.) --[[User:Ja-Snake|Ja-Snake]] 22:38, 9 January 2012 (MST)<br />
<br />
:In which edition? In 4e they removed it because it did not fit the heroic intents of the game. Feel free to make the [[4e Equipment|armor]] and buy it though or make a [[4e Rules|variant rule]] about crafting in 4e. In 3.5e I would recommend making the item and then all you have to do is use [[SRD:Craft (Skill)|Craft]] (Armorsmithing) to make it in-game. --[[User:Green Dragon|Green Dragon]] 11:51, 10 January 2012 (MST)<br />
<br />
== Flaw submission problem ==<br />
<br />
Hi Green Dragon,<br />
Just signed up for D&D Wiki, though I've been here before.<br />
I'm trying to submit a character flaw, and the only thing that shows up on the character flaws page is the title, but none of the description and whatnot. Am I doing something wrong, or do the submissions have to be reviewed first? I'll paste the flaw here so maybe you can tell me if the coding is wrong or something... Thanks! =edit= Pasted it in and only that one line shows up.. Argh..<br />
<br />
{{3.5e Flaw <br />
|name= Large Breasts <br />
|types= General <br />
|summary= Generally, your large breasts tend to get in the way. <br />
|drawback= For whatever reason, your character has been quite well -ahem- endowed. As a result, ever since coming of age your character has noticed a few drawbacks. For one, any Acrobatic checks the character makes take a -5 penalty. The penalty is increased by 1 for each cup size the female has above D.<br />
Additionally, any time the character needs to squeeze through a tight spot, her breasts will get in the way again. Any time she has to squeeze through a small tunnel, doorway, escape through a small window, or even push her way through a group of people, she must make an Escape artist check equal to 10 + 1/2 her character level rounded down. The same rule of 1 added to the DC for each size larger than D cup size applies here as well. <br />
|roleplay= Generally this can be used for humor's sake, or for misfortune's sake that is up to your DM and how good of a sense of humor he has. I was a very humorous DM with a gentleman who had a curvy female Ninja, and invariably he would mess up the acrobatics roll, so we started joking about her breasts getting in the way, hence this flaw's creation; "Well Dustin, because you chose to build such a well rounded character... Would you care to roll your acrobatics check to jump from that rooftop to the next? A 19. Well normally that jump's DC would be 15. However, since you built such a 'well rounded' character, your DC was 21 because of her DD size chest you keep bragging about. Well luckily you did make the jump, but because of the unequal weight distribution, your character takes a bit of a tumble upon landing, and doesn't land on her feet but rather her stomach and face. She isn't hurt, well, maybe her pride is". <br />
<!-- Delete any of the following if they are not used --><br />
|prereqs= Must be FEMALE, Must have breasts of D size or greater <br />
|benefit= This flaw gives two benefits: 1 extra feat, and a +2 on Diplomacy checks with any male or female who is attracted to your character<br />
|normal=<br />
|special= The +2 to Diplomacy only works if your character has 16 Charisma or higher!<br />
}}<br />
<br />
---- <br />
{{3.5e Flaws Breadcrumb}}<br />
[[Category:DnD]]<br />
[[Category:3.5e]]<br />
[[Category:User]]<br />
[[Category:Character Option]]<br />
[[Category:Flaw]]<br />
<br />
:Green Dragon,<br />
::I would like to see this flaw removed. It is immoral. Please, remove it. --[[User:Axl|Axl]] 17:12, 9 February 2012 (MST)<br />
<br />
==Review Request System==<br />
<br />
I've noticed that it can be somewhat difficult to get reviews on user content, usually requiring contacting individual reviewers to ask for a review. Now, this system does work, but it is far from optimal, especially for newer users on the wiki. What I propose is a new template, say, <nowiki>{{requestreview}}</nowiki>, that would effectively generate a list of completed pages that the author would like feedback on. I don't know a lot about templates, but I don't think it should be especially difficult to start this up. It is my opinion that we'll end up with higher-quality pages overall if we do this. What do you think? -[[User:Silverkin|Silverkin]] 13:20, 24 January 2012 (MST)<br />
<br />
:That's not a bad idea (and it'd be really easy to implement -- just have the template add pages to [[:Category:NeedsReview]] or whatever). I see two flaws with it though. 1) a lot of people who post content... don't exactly stick around. We'd need some sort of criteria for removing pages from the category. This shouldn't be a big issue, really. 2) as I've argued [[Discussion:I think it's time to change the rating system|here]], the rating system is very much messed up and in need of a fix. We really should fix that before we ask people to use it. [[User:Jazzman831|Jazz]][[User talk:Jazzman831|Man]] 14:00, 24 January 2012 (MST)<br />
<br />
::The first issue could be fixed fairly easily, with a bot that removes the template if it was added over two weeks ago, although I don't know it that is feasible. Thus abandoned pages, or pages that have been rated, would drop off the list in two weeks.<br />
<br />
::I agree with you about the rating system being messed up, but it does provide a way to get feedback on pages. That is to say, it may not work well, but it's better than nothing. -[[User:Silverkin|Silverkin]] 14:43, 24 January 2012 (MST)<br />
<br />
:::I changed the protection for [[Template:Reviewing Template]]. Feel free to add a requestreview template and then I will lock it up again. --[[User:Green Dragon|Green Dragon]] 15:08, 24 January 2012 (MST)<br />
<br />
::::Okay, I think I did it right, but I'm not sure. I used the others as a guide for formatting, so it should work okay, but I'm notoriously bad at coding. My apologies if I broke the page. -[[User:Silverkin|Silverkin]] 16:21, 24 January 2012 (MST)<br />
<br />
:::::I locked [[Template:Reviewing Template]] back up. It looks good, and I think that after someone reviews the page the template can get removed. I don't think that we need a time frame. --[[User:Green Dragon|Green Dragon]] 17:13, 24 January 2012 (MST)<br />
<br />
::::::I'm not sure you understood the meaning behind the template. The idea was to provide a way for users to request feedback on a page through the rating system. I should have been more clear about that; looking back, I realize now that I wasn't at all clear about what I meant. -[[User:Silverkin|Silverkin]] 08:40, 25 January 2012 (MST)<br />
<br />
:::::::Well the rating system is not wiki-wide (since [[Meta Pages#Improving, Reviewing, and Removing Articles]] is a much better option). --[[User:Green Dragon|Green Dragon]] 09:54, 25 January 2012 (MST)<br />
<br />
== Trying to do this right. ==<br />
<br />
So I recently created an optimized character build, a melee oriented Dread Necromancer, and I was wondering if you could help me clean it up a bit (with formatting and such). I would like it too look professional, and I simply lack the wiki know how to do so.<br />
<br />
Please and thank you, <br />
Eonir<br />
<br />
<br />
Link: http://www.dandwiki.com/wiki/Melee_Specialized_Dread_Necromancer_(3.5e_Optimized_Character_Build)<br />
<br />
:I took a look at it. --[[User:Green Dragon|Green Dragon]] 15:58, 31 January 2012 (MST)<br />
<br />
== Adding an SRD Class ==<br />
<br />
I would like to add the Favored Soul class to the wiki. How would I go about doing so?<br />
<br />
:The Favored Soul from [[Complete Divine]] is not licensed under the [[Open Game License v1.0a|OGL]] so it cannot be posted here. If you want to, however, you can make more [[Publication List|publications]] look like Complete Divine therefore being more useable. --[[User:Green Dragon|Green Dragon]] 10:26, 1 February 2012 (MST)<br />
<br />
::I assume you mean going into books like [[Magic of Incarnum|Magic of Incarnum]] and updating some of the pertinent information there?--[[User:Irykyl| Irykyl]] 10:32, 1 February 2012 (MST)<br />
<br />
:::Right. That is the closest we can get to letting people know about classes such as the Favored Soul. --[[User:Green Dragon|Green Dragon]] 10:39, 1 February 2012 (MST)<br />
<br />
:::: Got it. I will start on that one. Thanks! --[[User:Irykyl| Irykyl]] 10:40, 1 February 2012 (MST)<br />
<br />
:::::Could you do me a favor and check the [[Publication List|publications]] I have updated, please. I want to make sure I am doing the right thing before I continue with any others. The list of what I have worked on is on my user page. --[[User:Irykyl| Irykyl]] 09:57, 6 March 2012 (MST)<br />
<br />
::::::The publications that you improved are much better. You are definitely doing the right thing. --[[User:Green Dragon|Green Dragon]] 09:53, 8 March 2012 (MST)<br />
<br />
:::::::Thanks for checking them out.--[[User:Irykyl| Irykyl]] 09:57, 8 March 2012 (MST)<br />
<br />
== Changing the Feat Section ==<br />
<br />
I have a suggestion GD. I noticed while adding 3.5e feats they don't instantly add to the tables, I checked the code and noticed that each feat has to placed into the table. Wouldn't it be faster and more efficent for adding new feats if it worked like the Spell List section?--[[User:Milo v3|Milo High-Hill]] 07:01, 9 February 2012 (MST)<br />
<br />
:Yes. Some of those pages are very old and are not dynamic. Others, however, are. For example [[DnD Heritage Feats]] is the most useful version, but problems still exist (why are there those "&mdash;"'s at the end). Yes, they should all be updated to the DnD Heritage Feats. Also [[Template:3e Feat Table Row Test L2]] needs to be corrected (that is where the problem is coming from). --[[User:Green Dragon|Green Dragon]] 10:54, 9 February 2012 (MST)<br />
<br />
::GD, while we are on the subject of feats, is there a way we can add feats from the other published items, i.e. [[Complete Divine]] to the Feat tables, or are we going to keep those seperate? --[[User:Irykyl| Irykyl]] 11:07, 9 February 2012 (MST)<br />
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:::Since they cannot be used in a game (the mechanics are not present) we will not. Feats from [[3.5e Open Game Content]] are supposed to be added, though. --[[User:Green Dragon|Green Dragon]] 11:40, 9 February 2012 (MST)<br />
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::::What if we added the mechanics? Or can we? Maybe I am just confused. --[[User:Irykyl| Irykyl]] 11:47, 9 February 2012 (MST)<br />
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:::::We cannot add the mechanics. They are not licensed under an appropriate license, notably the [[Open Game License v1.0a|OGL]]. --[[User:Green Dragon|Green Dragon]] 11:50, 9 February 2012 (MST)<br />
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::::::OK, I will stick with the brief summaries. --[[User:Irykyl| Irykyl]] 11:52, 9 February 2012 (MST)<br />
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:::::::Brief quotes (research papers do this) or summaries (think about movie summaries for example) should be fine. --[[User:Green Dragon|Green Dragon]] 14:00, 9 February 2012 (MST)<br />
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== Race creation ==<br />
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Hey, I'm sorry for writing on your little guied line page. I'm a bit confused on where I'm soupose to start the creation. You see, the setting isint the same as I last visited. Whenever I type in a name for my race I'm sent to the guide line page. I'm not sure where to start my race page. After being sent to guide lines page where do I go?<br />
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:After using the inputbox on [[4e Races]] can you scroll to the bottom of that page and is there then an edit box? --[[User:Green Dragon|Green Dragon]] 17:53, 12 February 2012 (MST)<br />
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== Campaign dieties ==<br />
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GD, I know yo have been adding dieties, but I was wondering if there is a particular place where dieties such as Reorx from Dragonlance, Dol Darn from Eberron, or even Lolth from the Realms be listed? Would I create a "pantheon" on your handy-dandy dieties page and specify "Dragonlance Dieties" and list them or do yo have a better suggestion? --[[User:Irykyl| Irykyl]] 10:09, 22 February 2012 (MST)<br />
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:You can make a pantheon for them. Please, however, do not add the deities since they are not OGC. Take a look at [[Outer Planes (3.5e Environment)]] for inspiration on completing such a task while keeping it within the licensing situation. --[[User:Green Dragon|Green Dragon]] 10:16, 22 February 2012 (MST)<br />
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::I am sorry, but I am going to need some clarification. I can make the pantheon and list their names and a brief summary, or don't even mention their names? If I can submit the pantheon, would it look a bit like what Wikipedia has if you typed in "Dragonlance Dieties?" --[[User:Irykyl| Irykyl]] 10:49, 22 February 2012 (MST)<br />
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:::You can mention their names. Yes, "Dragonlance Deities" is great information, but I don't think that is a pantheon. Start with a pantheon and then we can talk about the individual deities.<br />
:::The wording does not need to be just a "brief summary". As long as you wrote it (or it is licensed appropriately) you can write it, like [[Outer Planes (3.5e Environment)]], explaining the situation to the unknowing reader. Using this wording you will be able to cover the topic well enough, I think. --[[User:Green Dragon|Green Dragon]] 11:01, 22 February 2012 (MST)<br />
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::::Well, for Dragonlance there are twenty-five dieties for most ages, and that number drops by one during the Age of Mortals. Dwarves don't believe in one set, elves another etc. It really is one pantheon. I will create a page as an example, and if it doesn't work, we can delete it, and my feelings won't be hurt. That work for you? --[[User:Irykyl| Irykyl]] 11:17, 22 February 2012 (MST)<br />
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:::::That's fine, and if it is a pantheon then I am wrong&ndash; but that does not mean your page will be wrong. --[[User:Green Dragon|Green Dragon]] 11:19, 22 February 2012 (MST)<br />
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== Deletions ==<br />
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Hi Green Dragon, if I can just get a clarification on what I've been calling "only author requests deletion" (which has mostly been cases where a contributor realizes they've made some fundamental mistake, and no other contributors have been involved). If I understand correctly 1) This is okay as long as it's gone through the normal minimum 2 weeks of being tagged for deletion without being contested, and 2) "only contributor requests deletion" ''itself'' isn't a deletion rationale - the article must be considered on its own merits. Correct?<br />
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Thanks again for your support and advice. [[User:Marasmusine|Marasmusine]] 13:41, 29 February 2012 (MST)<br />
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Also... ''so much spam removed!'' I feel like I'm doing spring cleaning. Still a lot to do though. If you get chance, I advise looking into an alternative to reCaptcha, as apparently the spambot writers have found an exploit in it. This is why so many forums and wikis that use reCaptcha have been hit hard by spam from January onwards. [[User:Marasmusine|Marasmusine]] 13:46, 29 February 2012 (MST)<br />
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:I already mentioned this on Marasmusine's [[User_Talk:Marasmusine|talk]] page, but there's a reCapcha alternative that uses a different system. Perhaps if we used both systems that would help. -[[User:Silverkin|Silverkin]] 14:24, 29 February 2012 (MST)<br />
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::The page must be considered on its own merits. Keep in mind "I want this done", "it should be so", etc are not legitimate reasons. Deletion is about the page&ndash; we don't care what people think (it would make for too many situations where subjectivity rules). For example please see [[Blackstone Knight (3.5e Class)]].<br />
::I'll see what is a good route for this spam problem. --[[User:Green Dragon|Green Dragon]] 08:56, 2 March 2012 (MST)<br />
:::Oki doki. I've been at Wikipedia so long that their [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Criteria_for_speedy_deletion speedy deletion] process is ingrained in me (in this case, their criteria G7). Clearly some of these criteria we do have (G11 for spam, and I would hope G10 and G12. Also G9 would effectively be your right as site owner) but I will otherwise adjust my thinking :)<br />
:::On a related note, at Wikipedia an admin wouldn't delete an article that they themselves proposed for deletion. That way at least two users have reviewed an article before it's removed. Similarly, I don't intend to delete anything at [[:Category:Candidates for Deletion]] that I've personally tagged (unless you think that's OK). [[User:Marasmusine|Marasmusine]] 01:53, 3 March 2012 (MST)<br />
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::::Ya, all those speedy deletion reasons seem pretty good.<br />
::::I would wait and see what happens to the pages you make candidates. If their reason is a speedy deletion reason then I would encourage the opposite behavior of waiting, but in other instances it makes sense. Use precedents when possible and if there are no precedents then use your judgement I guess. --[[User:Green Dragon|Green Dragon]] 05:27, 3 March 2012 (MST)<br />
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:::::Honestly, if we kept by a policy that you can't delete anything that you've tagged, the category would never get cleaned up. For instance, a while back I went through a bunch of the d20 Modern stuff to add deletion tags; there's not really anyone else on the wiki who's into d20 Modern, so nobody commented on the deletion tags. I just waited significantly longer than the traditional 2 weeks before deleting anything. [[User:Jazzman831|Jazz]][[User talk:Jazzman831|Man]] 08:02, 10 March 2012 (MST)<br />
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::Silverkin, what reCaptcha alternative are you talking about? I'd be happy to implement whatever will help. &mdash; <span style="color:#002137;">[[User:Blue Dragon|Blue Dragon]] <small> ([[User_talk:Blue Dragon|talk]])</small></span> 14:43, 18 March 2012 (MDT)<br />
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== What am I doing wrong with starting discussions? ==<br />
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GD, I know I had this issue before, and thought I fixed it. Why aren't my discussions showing up in the table? I follow all instructions as far as creating them, but for some reason it will not show up in the table. Here's what I tried to put in today: [[Discussion:Has anyone played the Dragonheart Mage Prestige?]]. Thanks. --[[User:Irykyl| Irykyl]] 09:54, 6 March 2012 (MST)<br />
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:You needed the page to be in the discussion namespace. If that was the only one, then it is now showing up. --[[User:Green Dragon|Green Dragon]] 09:33, 8 March 2012 (MST)<br />
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== Unblock an IP ==<br />
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Hi GD, [[User:Geomax]] contacted me saying his IP is blocked. His actual account isn't blocked but I don't think I have the permissions to check is IP. Can you look into this? Thanks. [[User:Marasmusine|Marasmusine]] 00:49, 7 March 2012 (MST)<br />
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:Having said that, he appears to be able to edit pages. [[User:Marasmusine|Marasmusine]] 07:59, 7 March 2012 (MST)<br />
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::I just checked and yes, none of [[User:Geomax]]'s IPs are blocked. --[[User:Green Dragon|Green Dragon]] 10:15, 7 March 2012 (MST)<br />
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== Tirr Campaign ==<br />
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The Tirr Campaign is a work in progress. Please stop vandalizing and removing its campaign specific pages. [[User:Jwguy|Jwguy]] 17:33, 21 March 2012 (MDT)<br />
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== Please remove all my material from this Wiki ==<br />
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= Divinity Itself =<br />
{| style="margin-right:1em;" align="right"<br />
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|}In the Immortal's Handbook, divinity is represented as a template that can be added to any sentient creature, each divine status a separate one. Certain powerful creatures and monsters might get some of the bits of the appropriate divine template -- most likely the divine bonus to all die rolls and select divine abilities as special attacks/qualities -- and are effectively the divine status equal to their divine bonus. These aren't actual gods, they're just mighty enough to threaten them.<br />
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===Mortals===<br />
You and me. Also mythological monsters of the mortal/physical realm/prime material plane, like werewolves, vampires, and (non-epic) dragons.<br />
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===Undergods/the weakest of "true" immortals===<br />
From mortals directly imbued with slivers of divinity such as [real] prophets and Egyptian pharaohs, to beings descended from a mortal and an immortal parent (Jesus, Hercules), to extraplanar/extradimensional beings that live in/originate from the same place as gods (demons and angels, einherjar and valkyries), to those few mortals powerful enough to battle these beings, on the precipice of apotheosis themselves.<br />
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===Immortals/Gods===<br />
"True" gods, like Athena and Zeus, Thor and Odin, Set and Osiris. This rank also includes monsters and other beings singularly powerful enough to challenge or even defeat an immortal, like Jormungandr the Midgard Serpent, or extremely-powerful, at-minimum Class 50 mutants like the Silver Surfer and the Hulk. Note that in the Kosmos, greater deity status is limited to the top dog in a major pantheon, such as Zeus and Odin. All major gods under them are intermediate, and all less-than-major gods under that are lesser, etc.<br />
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===Sidereals/Overgods===<br />
The primordial architects who shaped the multiverse into being; they are typically the embodiments/"consciousnesses" of planar layers (Elder Ones), entire planes (Old Ones), or dimensions that compromise a given reality/universe as described above (First Ones). They are assumed dormant until something threatens the cosmic balance (such as an un-being escaping from the void, or attacks from another reality altogether).<br />
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Should they be permanently slain, the planar layer, plane, or dimension they "represent" collapses in on itself, killing all immortals and other lesser beings within. Should an immortal acquire overdeity power, a new planar layer is born on whatever plane their godly realm resides. Other immortals will seek to imprison the new elder one within the new layer, AKA "itself", since something of that might could threaten the cosmic balance should its power be allowed to grow further.<br />
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These status's also describe beings more powerful than any single god or even an entire pantheon (or its previous generation of gods, or the eventual destroyers of said pantheon), like the Olympian Titans and Surtur (Elder One-equivalent), or cosmic gods like Galactus (Old One-equiv), or things even more powerful like [http://i.imgur.com/UQmJm.jpg the Celestials] (First One).<br />
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===Eternals/Aeons/Evergods===<br />
Near-sentient universes, fully-sentient universes, and sentient multiverses. They are: Demiurges (time lords who were "sundered" into its component dimensions [First Ones], when they re-awaken they compete with all Sidereals for universal dominance; if defeated the demiurge merely goes dormant once more, the resulting universal chaos is left to the remaining Sidereals to deal with), Time Lords (what a Demiurge becomes as soon as it absorbs the last Sidereal and is finally "whole" again; if a time lord is "killed" it is merely sundered into its fundamental dimensions [entropy, matter, spirit, etc.] it becomes a dormant demiurge, where Creation happens again), and High Lords ("combined" Time Lords; Time Lords and High Lords absorb each other to become more powerful, and bear different nicknames: Monad, or Time Lord of a single universe, Duad, or High Lord with two universes "inside" itself, Triads, or "triple-universes", etc).<br />
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These status's also cover beings of power greater than any Sidereal, such as Samael, Abraxas, and Ptah (Demiurge-equivalent), abstract entities like Death and Eternity, the Q, [http://img204.imageshack.us/img204/3451/tengentoppagurrenlagannv.jpg ridiculously huge mecha], entire existences unto themselves like Dabbat the World Beast and Yggdrasil the World Tree (Time Lord), or beings composed of multiple realities like Tetragrammatron or those more powerful than any mere time lord like Thanos with the Infinity Gauntlet (High Lord).<br />
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===Supernals/The Supreme Being===<br />
Self-explanatory. Examples: the Christian God and the One-Above-All.<br />
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Also, this status includes retired supreme beings known as lipika (librarians/custodians of Aravoth), beings directly subordinate to the Supreme Being more powerful than any aeon (the Living Tribunal), or other beings superior to any eternal and all other supernals except for the Supreme Being (Thanos with the Heart of the Universe).<br />
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===The Akashic Records/The Great Library===<br />
The omniversal DNA which can be used to write/rewrite anything in all creation; only the supreme being itself can access the Akashic Library. Time Lords devour each other to gain enough power to break through Kuvachim and enter the Akashic Library, where they hope to slay all lipika and de-throne the Supreme Being so they can wear that mantle.<br />
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Note: even though the Supreme Being -- with its direct access to the Records -- is for all intents and purposes omniscient, omnipresent, and omnipotent, a High Lord that manages to penetrate Kuvachim deals with the Supreme Being on equal footing. Of course, all but the mightiest High Lords are eclipsed by the least of lipika, so for the most part any being that can break through Kuvachim (which is a feat in and of itself) are swiftly dealt with for their impertinence without drawing the slightest attention or even notice from the Supreme Being.<br />
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=Table of Divinity=<br />
And because this is an RPG site, to make this page seem legit, here's one of those ubiquitous tables. Slightly different from Deities & Demigods: each status has a fixed rank (though creating a new one "between" pre-existing ones is easy).<br />
Abominations are born with the power of quasi-deities (though could always grow in power) and are perversions of their immortal parent's portfolios. The scorned star-spawn of sidereals are called entities (born with the power of greater deities), cosmic cysts that bedevil the body of the demiurge with their presence, who are corruptions of the dimensions themselves. Anomalies are extra-cosmic abominations (born with the power of first ones) superfluous to the cosmos, twisted interpretations of infinite aspects of reality.<br />
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{| border="1" cellpadding="1"<br />
! scope="col" width="160" | Divine Class<br />
! scope="col" width="180" | Divine Status<br />
! scope="col" width="45" | Divine Rank<br />
! scope="col" width="65" | Approx. HD*<br />
! scope="col" width="65" | Approx. ECL*<br />
! scope="col" width="290" | Example<br />
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| <small>'''Undergod'''</small>** || Disciple ''(Chosen of...)'' || 1 || 6-10 || 9-15 || Enkidu, Morgan Le Fay, Minions of Set, [[SRD:Night Hag|night hags]]<br />
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| || Prophet ''(Herald of...)'' || 2 || 11-15 || 17-25 || Moses, Skirnir, Valkyries, [[SRD:Trumpet_Archon|trumpet archons]]<br />
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| <small>'''Immortal''' or '''divine power'''</small> || Hero-deity ''(Champion of...)'' || 3 || 16-20 || 26-35 || Hunapu, Raiko, Stoneribs, [[SRD:Titan|titans]]<br />
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| || Quasi-deity ''(Proxy of...)'' || 4 || 21-30 || 34-50 || Cu Chulainn, Gilgamesh, [[SRD:Abomination|abominations]], [[SRD:Solar|solars]]<br />
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| || Demi-deity || 6 || 31-40 || 51-70 || Handmaidens of Morrigan, Hercules, Tvashtri, Syzygy (brood lord of time)<br />
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| || Lesser Deity || 8 || 41-60 || 67-100 || Hecate, the Norns, malakim (nebulous deva), maskim (former rulers of Baator)<br />
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| || Intermediate Deity || 12 || 61-80 || 101-120 || Ares, Indra, Thor, kyriotates (celestial deva), <br />
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| || Greater Deity || 16 || 81-120 || 134-200 || Dagda, Odin, Zeus, cogents (world flayers), entities (sidereal abominations)<br />
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| <small>'''Sidereal''' or '''cosmic power'''</small> || Elder One or ''Daitya'' (giant god) || 24 || 121-160 || 201-280 || Apsu, Kronos, Mahisha, Surtur, cherubim (supra-galactic deva)<br />
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| || Old One or ''Secundadeian'' || 32 || 161-240 || 267-400 || Algol, Chthon, Erebus, Nyx, seraphim (universal deva)<br />
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| || First One or ''Chioh Ha Qodesh'' || 48 || 241-320 || 401-560 || Aditi, Chaos, Metatron, Sin, Tamas, Zurvan, anomalies (eternal-level abominations)<br />
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| <small>'''Eternal''' or '''transcendental power'''</small> || Demiurge (Stage I) || 64 || 321-480 || 534-800 || Abraxas, Ptah, Samael, Yao<br />
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| || Demiurge (Stage II) || 96 || 481-640 || 801-1120 || Same as before, but ''bigger''.<br />
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| || Demiurge (Stage III) || 128 || 641-998 || 1067-1638 || Same, but ''even more biggerer''.<br />
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| || Time Lord (Monad) || 200 || 999-1998 || 1665-2998 || Anthropos, Dabbat, Yggdrasil, Forgotten Realms<br />
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| || High Lord (Duad) || 400 || 1999-2998 || 3331-4998 || Tetragrammatron (Tetrad), Domodon-Doxomedon (Ogdoad), [[Logos (3.5e Creature)|Logos]] (Heptadecaduad)<br />
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| <small>'''Supernal''' or '''omnific power'''</small> || Supreme Being || Highest*** || Highest*** || Highest*** || The Dungeon Master<br />
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| <small>'''Akasha''' or '''metempiric power'''</small> || Akashic Memory || Infinite || Infinite || Infinite || The DM's books and notes, character sheets<br />
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: * usual HD or level range for gods that advance with class levels; can be much higher than this, especially for monstrous deities<br />
: ** mortals with a minor touch of the divine below even hero- or quasi-deities, or weak outsiders<br />
: *** discounting the Akasha<br />
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=Adventure Ideas=<br />
Some creatures and characters contain one or more adventure ideas in one or more of the following level/ECL bands (rough estimate, especially the firs three:<br />
: '''Low Level (1-6):''' Suitable for the least to the greatest of almost all mortal beings.<br />
: '''Mid Level (7-12):''' Legendary heroes/villains of "superhuman" capabilities worthy of songs and tales lasting their lifetimes tenfold, and the least disciples.<br />
: '''High Level (13-20):''' Mythical heroes/villains with reputations rivaling that of the gods, and disciples and the least prophets.<br />
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: '''Low Epic (21-40):''' Perhaps the greatest power mortals can hope to achieve, prophets, and hero-deities.<br />
: '''Mid Epic (41-80):''' Quasi-deities and demideities.<br />
: '''High Epic (81-120):''' Lesser and intermediate deities.<br />
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: '''Low Cosmic (121-240):''' Greater deities and elder ones.<br />
: '''Mid Cosmic (241-320):''' Old ones.<br />
: '''High Cosmic (321-640):''' First ones and the least aeons (stage I demiurges).<br />
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: '''Low Transcendental (641-960):''' Stage I demiurges and some of stage II.<br />
: '''Mid Transcendental (961-1280):''' Stage II and few III demiurges.<br />
: '''High Transcendental (1281-1920):''' Stage III demiurges and time lords.<br />
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: '''Low Omnific (1921-5120):''' Time lords and high lords (duads).<br />
: '''Mid Omnific (5121-10240):''' Triads, tetrads, and pentads.<br />
: '''High Omnific (10241-20480):''' Sextads, heptads, ogdoads, nonads, and decads.<br />
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: '''Low Metempiric (20481-40960):''' Non-Supreme-Being supernals.<br />
: '''Mid Metempiric (40961-81920):''' Theoretical optimization.<br />
: '''High Metempiric (81921-163840):''' Invitation for Smite Player (Fu).<br />
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This is assuming approx. ECL from the above table; certain deities could be very high level but only command a low amount of divinity, especially for those who've fallen on hard times in terms of mortal worship. Most rare could be beings who are not divine (or an equivalent "power source" like being undead, fey, or otherwise beyond the racial might of most mortals), but instead derive all their power from class levels.<br />
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=Navigation=<br />
<nowiki><--</nowiki> [[User:ScryersEve/ImmortalsHandbook/TheKosmos|Back to The Kosmos]] | [[User:ScryersEve/ImmortalsHandbook|Return to the main IH page]] | [[User:ScryersEve/ImmortalsHandbook/TheBookOfAlterations|Forward to The Book of Alterations]] <nowiki>--></nowiki></div>ScryersEvehttps://www.dandwiki.com/w/index.php?title=Talk:Over_100_Ways_to_Die_(DnD_Other)&diff=551706Talk:Over 100 Ways to Die (DnD Other)2012-02-24T00:56:11Z<p>ScryersEve: /* Is this page necessary? */ Yes, yes it is.</p>
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<div>== Taking Suggestions? ==<br />
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If you care to take suggestions, just to get the ball rolling: crushed, eaten, beheaded(executed), hanged, choked on food, sucked into a vacuum, teleported into a wall, run over, energy drained, fall off a mountain, disease, acid, poison, vital organs removed, drawn and quartered, tortured, Harmed, blown up, turned inside out, swarmed by bugs, brain-sucked, frozen, buried alive (until dead), and fear are all I can think of right now. --[[User:Ganteka|Ganteka]] 23:24, 17 June 2008 (MDT)<br />
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:How...sadistic are you looking to get here? I can come up with more than a hundred reasons how to die, if, as Ganteka said, this is open for suggestions... -- [[User:Flession|Flession]] 04:33, 18 June 2008 (MDT)<br />
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::Yes...it '''is''' open to suggestion. Thanks for the ideas Ganteka. I created this page as a way to brainstorm nontraditional approaches to threatening the lives of PCs. It can be boring to always fight monsters, and never face any other challenges or threats which differentiate from typical approaches. Not exactly sadistic...just another way to change how the game is played. Adressing your statement that you can generate 100+ methods of death, I am creating a more general list, where as being hanged and beheaded would classify under execution. Secondly, the methods are ones that are commonly (or reasonably) applied. Nothing against Ganteka's list, but brainsucking, organs removed, sucked into a vacuum, and teleported into a wall are unlikely to occur. AND organs removed may be classified as a form of either encapturement and torture, or being killed by an NPC. These are not specific things, only a generator of ideas for DMs and campaign builders. [[User:Palantini|Palantini]] 16:02, 18 June 2008 (MDT)<br />
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:::Hey Palantini, added a couple of ideas. Knowing you, you'll probably take most of them out. And why ''can't'' the ideas be sadistic. That's what makes it fun. [[User:Sloperson|Sloperson]] 16:29, 26 June 2008 (MDT)<br />
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== Similarities ==<br />
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Alot of these are the same thing. weather, for example, includes storm and tornado. {{Unsigned|96.248.118.13|13:18, 13 July 2008 (MDT)}}<br />
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:I dunno, as said in the section above, it's to give DMs ideas for campaigns, so sometimes specifying might give cause for the DM to consider something he/she hadn't yet under a vague classification of (using your example) 'weather' --[[User:AnimeOtaku137|AnimeOtaku137]] 18:16 4 March 2011 (EDT)<br />
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== More Deaths ==<br />
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I got some. Chocking, substance abuse, riding under the influence, hit by some one riding under the influence, strangled, killed by the chicken legion(Legend of Zelda stile), stampede, head injury, erased from existence, becoming undead(zombie, vampire, lich), and heart break.--[[User:Yozuk|Yozuk]] 00:42, 15 August 2008 (MDT)<br />
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:Common but deadly sickness 45-55, 56-60 Hit by (something big), 61-80 Fights, 81-90 Animal Attacks, 91-100 fairly unusual deads (as in an evil wizard throw him...) --[[User:Angel Black|Angel Black]] 19:39, 2 October 2008 (MDT)<br />
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::Lava? --&nbsp;<small><span style="border: 1px solid blue; -moz-border-radius:10px">[[User:Tug|'''<span style="background-color:White; color:Blue; -moz-border-radius-topleft:10px; -moz-border-radius-bottomleft:10px"> Tug </span>''']][[User talk:Tug|<span style="background-color:black; color:white; -moz-border-radius-bottomleft:10px; -moz-border-radius-topleft:10px">&nbsp;&nbsp;talk&nbsp;&nbsp;</span>]][[Special:Contributions/Tug|<span style="background-color:black; color:white">&nbsp;&nbsp;contribs&nbsp;&nbsp;</span>]][[Special:Emailuser/Tug|<span style="background-color:black; color:white; -moz-border-radius-bottomright:10px; -moz-border-radius-topright:10px">&nbsp;&nbsp;email&nbsp;&nbsp;</span>]]</span></small> 14:09, 12 April 2009 (MDT)<br />
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== A few ideas... ==<br />
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Didn't find any of these with the search function although there may be something similar:<br />
*Death from massive damage (system shock)<br />
*Gibbed<br />
*Swallowed<br />
*Disintegrate<br />
*Phantsmal Killer/Weird<br />
*Wail of the Banshee/banshee's keening<br />
*Brain sucked out by illithid<br />
*Throat cut<br />
*Drawn and quartered<br />
*Exploding bladder (maybe?)<br />
*AIDS<br />
*Cancer<br />
*Sleeping dragon barrel roll<br />
*Mother killed before you were born (Terminator)<br />
*Shot in the face by Dick Cheney<br />
*Shot in the face by Bill Clinton<br />
-- [[User:Jota|Jota]] 16:02, 12 January 2009 (MST)<br />
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Thanks a ton for organizing <br />
add at will...just don't make them absurd<br />
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== Organizing ==<br />
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We could put them into a table that can be sorted alphabetically.. --[[User:Sabre070|Sabre070]] 05:34, 6 May 2009 (MDT)<br />
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:We could also organize them by types of death (combat, RP, DM issue/IRL problem, etc.) That would make the list much more useful, and help with the duplication problem. [[User:Silverkin|Silverkin]] 13:47, 2 March 2011 (MST)<br />
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::Well, thinking on that, it might be cause to make ''more than one'' table, each of smaller volume and defeating the one big one. I'm all for the idea, but organizing it like that would change the dynamic. And if you were to order it like: This type 1-50, different type 51-100, then you couldn't change or add to those types without having to reformat every other section that succeeds it. It's perfectly fine if you want to do that, but there must be a better way. --[[User:AnimeOtaku137|AnimeOtaku137]] 18:24 4 March 2011 (EDT)<br />
:::My thinking would be to make several tables, each starting at one. It is notable that in this process, the number of entries would go down due to removal of duplicates. I'd keep the more interesting of the two. For a good example, take a look at #69 on the current table. Wow. [[User:Silverkin|Silverkin]] 12:56, 23 March 2011 (MDT)<br />
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==All known ways to die==<br />
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I think this should be reworded as there are billions, if not trillions or more ways to die. --[[User:Vrail|Vrail]] 02:13, 31 May 2010 (UTC)<br />
:but those numbers ARE over 100, whats the problem?. this delivers exactly what it promisses, over 100[[User:Name Violation|Name Violation]] 22:18, 31 May 2010 (UTC)<br />
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==Wikification==<br />
This page needs to be wikified, but I'm almost afraid to put the Wikify template on it... -[[User:Silverkin|Silverkin]] 11:41, 23 February 2012 (MST)<br />
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== Is this page necessary? ==<br />
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I understand what purpose it '''could''' have, considering that it could be like numerous other "100 Ways to X" pages, offering small modular events and descriptions that can be used to help a serious dungeon master quickly hash out a believable set of occurrences. For example, a serious "100 ways to die" could allow a dungeon master to quickly describe a believable reason for how the farmer's wife died, instead of trying to make up a consistent reason on the spot.<br />
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This page, however, seems far too filled with nonsense and unbelievable circumstances that it is obviously not as useful, and doesn't seem to have any purpose besides the odd editor deciding to add his own brand of silliness. Because of that, is this page really all that necessary? I'm all for fun and games, but there is a time and a place for them, and any person looking this page up in an effort to find a realistic answer is just going to be disappointed. [[User:Jwguy|Jwguy]] 14:24, 23 February 2012 (MST)<br />
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:How about we add the April Fool's template to it that way the silliness would still be here and people would be well warned? --[[User:Irykyl| Irykyl]] 14:27, 23 February 2012 (MST)<br />
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::I'm not sure this page is entirely without genuine merit. The way I see it, it's mostly a DM tool to kill someone off in a fun or interesting way. And a large number of them are quite reasonable in a D&D world, usable for character background (ex. Father killed by red dragon, character hates red dragons), NPC background, plot hooks, you name it. -[[User:Silverkin|Silverkin]] 15:03, 23 February 2012 (MST)<br />
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:::There's nothing wrong with this page, and as said above it has plenty of uses. So what if not all of them are 100% dead serious? This is a game where you pretend to be a fireball-tossing elf for Pelor's sake! Quit being stop-having-fun guys and relax your booties! --<span style="font-size:90%;">[[User:ScryersEve|<span title="User page of Scryer's Eve"><span style="color:#006565;">Scryer's</span> <span style="color:#db6700;">Eve</span></span>]] <sup>([[User_talk:ScryersEve|<span style="color:#0053BF!important;" title="Talk page of Scryer's Eve">talk</span>]] | <span title="Contributions of Scryer's Eve">[[Special:Contributions/ScryersEve|<span style="small-caps;color:#0053BF!important;" title="Contributions of Scryer's Eve">contribs</span>]])</span></sup> 17:56, 23 February 2012 (MST)</div>ScryersEvehttps://www.dandwiki.com/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Hooper&diff=546855User talk:Hooper2012-01-15T09:31:33Z<p>ScryersEve: Maybe THIS is what I have to do to report repeated vandalism and bigotry...</p>
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I saw on a ratings page for campaign settings that you are willing to help with formatting when it comes to creating new settings. I've been working on a setting for a 3.5e campaign I eventually want to play; however, I thought I could go ahead and add it on here. This will be my first attempt at working with a wiki and I have little clue as to how to format it. I've looked around through a few links on how to edit a wiki and such, but it is a bit foreign to me. Heck, I'm not even sure I'm doing this right. If you could help me out, that would be great. I'm not sure how communication works on this site, but I'm willing to learn. -[[User:Eagle033|Eagle033]] 22:50, 3 January 2012 (MST)<br />
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:Really, the easiest way is to '''actually read''' ''(don't just skim!)'' Wikipedia's [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Help:Contents/Getting_started comprehensive newcomer's guide] to wiki editing. {{User:Hooper/autosig2}} 19:14, 8 January 2012 (MST)<br />
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::Hmm. That link is much better than the one I had found before. The one I had looked at prior was only on formatting text and such. I'm not so much concerned on how to actually do the coding part, for I seem to have got a basic understanding of that now. I'm more worried with the actual layout of the page. What information should I put on the front page. Do I create a supplement page for each new section. My campaign focuses on one continent, for now, but I do have information for the entire world. How would I go about setting that up? It's those types of questions. The wiki formatting was the least of my concerns. I've learned a few computer languages both in school and self-taught. Wiki coding is just another addition. -[[User:Eagle033|Eagle033]] 19:44, 13 January 2012 (MST)<br />
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== Persistent Troll/Vandal ==<br />
[http://dandwiki.com/w/index.php?title=Logos_%283.5e_Creature%29&action=history Please take a look] at the [http://dandwiki.com/wiki/Special:Contributions/174.23.145.59 trolling, vandalism, and homophobia] that has gone on much time by one user on one particular page. Thank you. --<span style="font-size:90%;">[[User:ScryersEve|<span title="User page of Scryer's Eve"><span style="color:#006565;">Scryer's</span> <span style="color:#db6700;">Eve</span></span>]] <sup>([[User_talk:ScryersEve|<span style="color:#0053BF!important;" title="Talk page of Scryer's Eve">talk</span>]] | <span title="Contributions of Scryer's Eve">[[Special:Contributions/ScryersEve|<span style="small-caps;color:#0053BF!important;" title="Contributions of Scryer's Eve">contribs</span>]])</span></sup> 02:31, 15 January 2012 (MST)</div>ScryersEve