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== Anti Wiki Criticism ==<br />
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This is the most useful Wiki I have ever found on D&D, (and I've seen a LOT of on-line references). I am currently running an adventure and I keep this site open on my lap-top as I play. It saves me a great deal of time and speeds up play considerably. I almost never even open my Monster Manual anymore.<br />
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Kudos to the WebMaster. --[[User:Gildavinor|Gildavinor]] 18:13, 25 September 2009 (MDT)<br />
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:I agree very strongly with you, Gild! Though I didn't sign in very often previously, I absolutely adore this Wiki. It's the pinnacle of Dungeons and Dragons research and innovation. --[[User:Harry Mason|Harry Mason]] 18:42, 25 September 2009 (MDT)<br />
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::Taking sides in any instance is a bad idea... Neutrality is a great observational instrument if one is not affiliated therein. --[[User:Green Dragon|Green Dragon]] 21:51, 25 September 2009 (MDT)<br />
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:::Totally agree. --[[User:Lord Mattos|Lord Mattos]] 11:14, 29 November 2009 (MST)<br />
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== Two Millionth View! ==<br />
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Looks like today was [[Special:Statistics|the day]] folks! 2 million views on the main page! &nbsp;<small><span style="border: 1px solid black; -moz-border-radius:10px">[[User:Hooper|'''<span style="background-color:White; color:Black; -moz-border-radius-topleft:10px; -moz-border-radius-bottomleft:10px"> Hooper </span>''']][[User talk:Hooper|<span style="background-color:Black; color:white; -moz-border-radius-bottomleft:10px; -moz-border-radius-topleft:10px">&nbsp;&nbsp;talk&nbsp;&nbsp;</span>]][[Special:Contributions/Hooper|<span style="background-color:black; color:white">&nbsp;&nbsp;contribs&nbsp;&nbsp;</span>]][[Special:Emailuser/Hooper|<span style="background-color:black; color:white; -moz-border-radius-bottomright:10px; -moz-border-radius-topright:10px">&nbsp;&nbsp;email&nbsp;&nbsp;</span>]]</span></small> 12:46, 14 October 2009 (MDT)<br />
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:Yeah, now there are 2,299,388 views (Jan. 13,2010)! Wohoo! --[[User:Io|Io]] 16:52, 13 January 2010<br />
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And now, in the november of 2010, we have 3,080,184 views!<br />
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== Size ==<br />
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how many Megabytes is this whole site? {{Unsigned|216.12.83.73|22:29, 15 November 2009 (MDT)}}<br />
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:Why? --[[User:Green Dragon|Green Dragon]] 23:40, 15 November 2009 (MST)<br />
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::I was thinking of copying the source code so i cant look at it offline--[[User:Lo-Chi|Lt.Dan]] 07:20, 16 November 2009 (MST)<br />
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:::You don't need the size of D&D Wiki as a whole when looking at the source code ("''View Page Source''" for Mozilla Firefox). --[[User:Green Dragon|Green Dragon]] 12:12, 16 November 2009 (MST)<br />
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== The Tavern ==<br />
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After a huge hiatus I'm finally back to D&D Wiki (and happy to return!) following a long period of being almost broke. I notice that the Tavern, which was gone when I first had to go...still isn't back. That was one of my favorite parts of the Wiki, and I hope I'm just being stupid and missing it somewhere. Is it gone for good? --[[User:Harry Mason|Harry Mason]] 07:07, 4 February 2010 (UTC)<br />
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:It actually was discontinued. There is no "official" reason as to now however take a look at [[Discussion:The Tavern: use, expansion, and availability.]]. The main reason is "''...it is quite childish and immature at times and I feel at times it decreases the seriousness of D&D Wiki with childish behavior and immaturity.''" [[User:Green Dragon|Green Dragon]] "Discussion:The Tavern: use, expansion, and availability." 21:02, 20 November 2009 (MST). --[[User:Green Dragon|Green Dragon]] 22:07, 4 February 2010 (UTC)<br />
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::Ah...oh well. That's a little sad to me, but I can see the reasoning behind it, it -was- rather vulgar at times. Thank you for replying. :) --[[User:Harry Mason|Harry Mason]] 01:49, 5 February 2010 (UTC)<br />
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:::I'm coming back too and I too liked the tavern... I agree with the reasoning, but I still think we should have an effective way of conversation, since a wiki is not the best tool for talking...<br>Isn't there something that could be implemented in the place of the tavern (and maybe have some rules as to swearing and misbehaviour, making disrespectful users suspended/banned from using it)?--[[User:ElfsMaster|ElfsMaster]] 10:49, 5 February 2010 (UTC)<br />
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::::But this '''is''' a wiki, and by not having the sidetrack of a chat users may tend to rely more on the already established discussion tool. Or they can leave messages on talk pages of other users. It actually encourages the opening of discussions and talks between users on the wiki - which can lead to more wiki additions and improvements, instead of just idle chatter. &nbsp;<small><span style="border: 1px solid black; -moz-border-radius:10px">[[User:Hooper|'''<span style="background-color:White; color:Black; -moz-border-radius-topleft:10px; -moz-border-radius-bottomleft:10px"> Hooper </span>''']][[User talk:Hooper|<span style="background-color:Black; color:white; -moz-border-radius-bottomleft:10px; -moz-border-radius-topleft:10px">&nbsp;&nbsp;talk&nbsp;&nbsp;</span>]][[Special:Contributions/Hooper|<span style="background-color:black; color:white">&nbsp;&nbsp;contribs&nbsp;&nbsp;</span>]][[Special:Emailuser/Hooper|<span style="background-color:black; color:white; -moz-border-radius-bottomright:10px; -moz-border-radius-topright:10px">&nbsp;&nbsp;email&nbsp;&nbsp;</span>]]</span></small> 14:07, 5 February 2010 (UTC)<br />
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:::::Appealing to people in real time is more effective than doing so passively, from what I've found. Also, just because serious discussion does not happen constantly doesn't mean it never does. I understand that a decision has been made however, so that's all I'll say on the matter. -- [[User:Jota|Jota]] 14:20, 5 February 2010 (UTC)<br />
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::::::Why not do something like what facebook has and when a user is logged in, they have a little chat bar? i know there are a lot of difficulties with that, including having "friends lists" and the like, but its an idea. --[[User:Ozzy1234567890|Ozzy1234567890]] 07:21, 26 January 2011 (MST)<br />
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== Search Incapacitation ==<br />
The search function has been completely nonfunctional for me for a good few days, maybe half a week or more now. Once in a while I'll nail to a T an article's name, and it'll transport me there. Just hitting Search or mistyping anything causes it to utterly fail for me. Is this just a localized problem (which I don't think it is, I've used 3 different computers to try and access it, all were on different networks) or what's going on? --[[User:Harry Mason|Harry Mason]] 05:08, 26 February 2010 (UTC)<br />
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:Is it actually giving you an error, or just pulling up the extended/advanced search function ''(which is normal when you don't type an article name perfectly)''?. &nbsp;<small><span style="border: 1px solid black; -moz-border-radius:10px">[[User:Hooper|'''<span style="background-color:White; color:Black; -moz-border-radius-topleft:10px; -moz-border-radius-bottomleft:10px"> Hooper </span>''']][[User talk:Hooper|<span style="background-color:Black; color:white; -moz-border-radius-bottomleft:10px; -moz-border-radius-topleft:10px">&nbsp;&nbsp;talk&nbsp;&nbsp;</span>]][[Special:Contributions/Hooper|<span style="background-color:black; color:white">&nbsp;&nbsp;contribs&nbsp;&nbsp;</span>]][[Special:Emailuser/Hooper|<span style="background-color:black; color:white; -moz-border-radius-bottomright:10px; -moz-border-radius-topright:10px">&nbsp;&nbsp;email&nbsp;&nbsp;</span>]]</span></small> 13:28, 26 February 2010 (UTC)<br />
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::I'm having the same issues, the message "Query failed: connection to localhost:3312 failed (errno=111, msg=Connection refused)" appears when I try to search for something.<br />
::I'm having a similar problem, mainly in that I can't browse things, I can only see things when I search for them, which, makes looking at the diffrent races, quite difficult [[User:Sevant|Sevant]] 18:23, 5 July 2010 (UTC)<br />
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:::Search is working once again. --[[User:Green Dragon|Green Dragon]] 12:14, 22 August 2010 (MDT)<br />
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== Official Content Designation ==<br />
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Could a homebrew template be added? I keep coming here after a Google search and I keep finding overpowered homebrew things (like [[Paragon_of_Light/Darkness_%283.5e_Prestige_Class%29]]) and it usually takes me a moment to figure out that it's not official, just something some random person made up. I'd prefer to see some sort of note to that effect at the top of the page. [[User:Banaticus|Banaticus]] 02:57, 21 May 2010 (UTC)<br />
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:Ummm... A template is already added on all official pages. This is a homebrew site, so all articles are automatically assumed to be homebrew unless they are specified otherwise.--[[User:Vrail|Vrail]] 03:10, 21 May 2010 (UTC)<br />
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::There already is a homebrew template. Look down at the bottom of that page you linked... see where it says "{{DnD Classes Breadcrumb}} &rarr; [[DnD Prestige Classes|Prestige Classes]]"? "Homebrew" is even in the wording of the template. If you are looking for ONLY SRD material then look for pages starting with "SRD:". They will all have OGL templates as well.<br />
::Additionally, much of our homebrew content has ratings by other users, so you should know right away if it's overpowered. [[User:Jazzman831|Jazz]][[User talk:Jazzman831|Man]] 14:39, 21 May 2010 (UTC)<br />
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== Pictures Down? ==<br />
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While it might be my computer, it appears that something happened to the pictures on the site. They don't seem to be displaying. Am I wrong? Was there an announcement that I missed? [[User:Noname|Aristocles]] 05:20, 4 June 2010 (UTC)<br />
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:This question was already brought up on GD's talk page under [[User talk:Green Dragon#Images lost again|this header]]. However no clear answer was given by GD. All I know is that no, it is not your computer, and no there was no announcement. The pictures still exist on the media repository, however they are not linking properly. --[[User:Vrail|Vrail]] 13:05, 4 June 2010 (UTC)<br />
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::Images have been fixed. --[[User:Green Dragon|Green Dragon]] 12:12, 22 August 2010 (MDT)<br />
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:::Are you sure? I dont see any- ANYWHERE!!! [[User:DragonFist|DragonFist]] 20:13, 17 December 2010 (MST)<br />
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::::This may have been a cache problem. I assume this is no longer a problem as they have been working for me for quite a while now. --[[User:Green Dragon|Green Dragon]] 15:13, 9 August 2011 (MDT)<br />
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== Marking a page as homebrew ==<br />
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How do we mark a page as homebrew? Take [Alon (3.5e Deity)] for instance. It turns out he's a homebrew god, although I don't see that anywhere on the page. It's sometimes difficult to tell the difference on this wiki between homebrew things and official things. [[Special:Contributions/97.93.94.242|97.93.94.242]] 12:42, 24 August 2010 (MDT)<br />
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:Any properly-created page should have a clear breadcrumb at the bottom of the page which leads back to a homebrew page. In addition any user-created content belongs in [[:Category:User]]. [[User:Jazzman831|Jazz]][[User talk:Jazzman831|Man]] 13:22, 27 August 2010 (MDT)<br />
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::You can also just click "3.5e Open Game Content" on the sidebar to take you to the "official" material. Almost everything on this site is homebrew. Because of that, what we do is mark pages that are official. If you don't see a template that says "Open Game Content", then the page you are viewing is essentially guaranteed to be homebrew content. --[[User:Badger|Badger]] 14:24, 27 August 2010 (MDT)<br />
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== 3 Million View ==<br />
Just a quick pat on the back, as per Statistics the main page has hit 3 million views. Too bad our news is months behind. &nbsp;<small><span style="border: 1px solid black; -moz-border-radius:10px">[[User:Hooper|'''<span style="background-color:White; color:Black; -moz-border-radius-topleft:10px; -moz-border-radius-bottomleft:10px"> Hooper </span>''']][[User talk:Hooper|<span style="background-color:Black; color:white; -moz-border-radius-bottomleft:10px; -moz-border-radius-topleft:10px">&nbsp;&nbsp;talk&nbsp;&nbsp;</span>]][[Special:Contributions/Hooper|<span style="background-color:black; color:white">&nbsp;&nbsp;contribs&nbsp;&nbsp;</span>]][[Special:Emailuser/Hooper|<span style="background-color:black; color:white; -moz-border-radius-bottomright:10px; -moz-border-radius-topright:10px">&nbsp;&nbsp;email&nbsp;&nbsp;</span>]]</span></small> 22:46, 3 January 2011 (MST)<br />
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:That's ok, I'm months behind on reading --[[User:Calidore Chase|Calidore Chase]] 04:33, 17 March 2011 (MDT)<br />
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== Advice on Creating Animal ==<br />
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Ok so i have no clue how to do this but i want to make an Exploding Chicken animal for D20M and all i know is that its a regular chicken that explodes when within 15ft of any nonchaotic for 1d6 damage at a range of 20ft. they have a total health of 3. they also are weak and are just mobile... firecracker i guess would be the best way of puting it. my DM said to just put it on here cause he wants to see what others think. thanks! *EDIT* i ment D20M Apocolypse<br />
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:I can't give you mechanical help with creating your creature, but I can give you wiki help. Go [[Add_a_New_D20M_Creature|here]] and replace "CreatureName" with "Exploding Chicken" or whatever you want to name it. Leave a space and (D20 Modern Creature) after the name, and then press "Create New Creature". It will take you to a page with a pre-load designed for creatures in the d20M universe (I don't know if that is the same as d20M Apocalypse, is it?). Like I said, I don't know anything about the d20M system, so I can't help you write your creature and balance it, but if you need help with tables or other wiki formatting, leave a message on my talk page. One last thing, don't forget to sign your posts by typing <nowiki> --~~~~ </nowiki>. --[[User:Badger|Badger]] 13:44, 21 January 2011 (MST)<br />
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::Thanks! and its pretty much the same as other systems. and i guess i ment that i needed tables for things like different sizes and their modifiers and things like that --[[User:Ozzy1234567890|Ozzy1234567890]] 10:54, 24 January 2011 (MST)<br />
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== April 1 ==<br />
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Is there going to be another [[:Category:April Fools|April Fools]] thing this year? -[[User:Ozzy1234567890|Ozzy1234567890]] 08:15, 28 March 2011 (MDT)<br />
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:Well I'm going to add April Fool stuff. I don't know about other people though. --[[User:Milo v3|Milo High-Hill]] 15:26, 28 March 2011 (MDT)<br />
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::If you're looking for ideas, try updating the random hooker table from the [[Dungeon Master's Guide (1e AD&D)|1e DMG]]. —[[User:Sledged|Sledged]] ([[User talk:Sledged|talk]]) 16:08, 28 March 2011 (MDT)<br />
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:::I've added the Chew'd Button and I'm going add Summon Potato this after noon.--[[User:Milo v3|Milo High-Hill]] 21:23, 31 March 2011 (MDT)<br />
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== Sheild Bash? ==<br />
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Hello ive been playing DnD 3.5 for a while now and I have a question a heavy sheild with spikes does 1d8 damage now when i enchanted it with "Bashing" my friends told me it now does 3d6 on a shield bash is this correct? {{unsigned|Grunt|2011-04-12 16:36}}<br />
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: Not quite. A [[SRD:Heavy Shield#Enhancements|spiked heavy shield]] does 1d6, not 1d8. According to the 3.5 FAQ, the bashing quality stacks with a spiked shield which raises the damage to 2d6. —[[User:Sledged|Sledged]] ([[User talk:Sledged|talk]]) 17:22, 12 April 2011 (MDT)<br />
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== Prototype... Class? Template? Race? Can someone help? ==<br />
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Hello in my groups recent dnd sessions we decided to try for an OP campaign as in epic class's templates and races based off of movies, books, games, etc... so if anyone has ever played the game ''Prototype'' and know about "Alex Mercer" and his "powers" then you would know what kind of chacacter I want for our OP Campaign. unfortionatly I dont know anything about making class's/Races/templates. So i was wondering if somebody could either make one for me or help me with making it. It would be very much appreciated.<br />
DND 3.5 PLEASE!<br />
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::The best person to ask, I believe, is [[User:Badger|Badger]]. --[[User:Ozzy1234567890|Ozzy1234567890]] 09:25, 16 April 2011 (MDT)<br />
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== Campaign Setting Help ==<br />
:''Discussion moved to [[User talk:Ohgren#I have a question]].'' <small>--[[User:Badger|Badger]] 00:31, 17 May 2011 (MDT)</small><br />
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== Have an Idea ==<br />
:''Discussion moved to [[Discussion:Half-Demon_Combinations]].'' <small>--[[User:Badger|Badger]] 19:48, 14 June 2011 (MDT)</small><br />
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== Weapon Enhancement Formula appears to be inconsistent ==<br />
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:''Discussion moved to [[SRD Talk:Magic Items#Weapon Enhancement Formula appears to be inconsistent]].'' <small>—[[User:Sledged|Sledged]] ([[User talk:Sledged|talk]]) 17:26, 18 July 2011 (MDT)</small><br />
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== Site nominated for an Award ==<br />
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Just thought I would let you guys know: D&D Wiki has been nominated for an OGGIE. The OGGIEs are the industry awards thereby. Nowhere near as big as the ENnies or Origin awards, the OGGIEs reflect the games, people, and tools that our members appreciate. {{User:Hooper/autosig2}} 18:52, 14 August 2011 (MDT)<br />
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:Unfortunately this may not be accepted at this time. See also [[Talk:DnD Links#Lifestyles]]. I hope for a difference next year (or next award period). --[[User:Green Dragon|Green Dragon]] 21:40, 15 August 2011 (MDT)<br />
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::I don't follow GD. This isn't a site, simply an award. One of the sites mentioned is that link is also up for it, but its not a link or anything. If you prefer to not accept the nomination, we can revert to one of the other nominees that had lesser votes. Not really sure what you mean by the above statement. {{User:Hooper/autosig2}} 22:08, 15 August 2011 (MDT)<br />
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:::I mean that the link is not acceptable at the moment because of licensing problems. As soon as it is this may be mentioned here. --[[User:Green Dragon|Green Dragon]] 22:11, 15 August 2011 (MDT)<br />
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::::Wait, are you telling me we are refusing an award because the O.G.R.E. website uses a license that we don't? --[[User:Badger|Badger]] 00:20, 16 August 2011 (MDT)<br />
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:::::What link? {{User:Hooper/autosig2}} 06:10, 16 August 2011 (MDT)<br />
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::::::No. Because they have [[:Category:Valgora Setting]] content licensed incorrectly. It is actually licensed under the GNU FDL v1.2. Were that to be changed then it would be no problem. --[[User:Green Dragon|Green Dragon]] 12:15, 16 August 2011 (MDT)<br />
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:::::::Although that is wholly incorrect in regards to how licensing works when the original author publishes , its not what I'm asking. What link? Being nominated for an award has not resulted in a single link off site. So again, what link? <br />
:::::::Anyways, in the interest of not rearguing an argument you've already lost that has no bearing, if you're uncomfortable let me know and well invalidate the nomination and let the next site in line receive it. (Didn't mean for that to sound rude, dang text based conversations. I just have no interest in revisiting the license discussion, especially when I see no connection) {{User:Hooper/autosig2}} 13:55, 16 August 2011 (MDT)<br />
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::::::::Well, Hooper, I'm willing to bet that the O.G.R.E.s aren't going to re-license their own material to make GD happy, so we're at an impasse here. I understand that our nomination for this award has no external links related to it at all, but apparently GD doesn't. On a personal note, totally unofficial in every way, thanks for the nomination. --[[User:Badger|Badger]] 15:12, 16 August 2011 (MDT)<br />
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:::::::::It wasn't me actually. Since I was the contact point for members I abstained from nominating myself. We had about 300 unique nominators, and expect about 3k unique voters. I was really happy to see this site on the list. Well, maybe next year. {{User:Hooper/autosig2}} 15:22, 16 August 2011 (MDT)<br />
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::::::::::I find myself rather disappointed with this response. I am aligned with Hooper and Badger on all regards. [[User:Jwguy|Jwguy]] 09:19, 18 August 2011 (MDT)<br />
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:::::::::::The problem stems from that D&D Wiki is then considering itself irrelevant or subservient. Both these would rather be avoided if they are actually otherwise so. --[[User:Green Dragon|Green Dragon]] 21:36, 18 August 2011 (MDT)<br />
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::::::::::::Anyone have a clue as to what Green Dragon's on about? Really, "considering itself irrelevant or subservient"? To ''what'', exactly? --[[Special:Contributions/173.245.56.158|173.245.56.158]] 01:59, 19 August 2011 (MDT)<br />
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:::::::::::::I am somewhat confused by this explanation. I am going to quote definitions to help spell out why, no offense intended. <br />
:::::::::::::"The Problem stems from that D&D Wiki is then considering itself 'irreverent' (an adjective used to describe something that is disrespectful, sarcastic, and/or lacking in overall seriousness.) or 'subservient' (an adjective used to describe something that is useful in an inferior capacity or is compliantly submissive)."<br />
:::::::::::::Are you attempting to say that accepting an award that praises the site for it's content (I presume this is what the reward is for, honestly) indicates either of these things? If anything, it appears to mean the opposite of the first definition, as we're being recognized for honors, and the second is unlikely, since, again, we're being recognized for honors, not complying to their whims or submitting to superiority. Another thing is I don't see how this deals with the licensing problem, above, which I find myself agreeing with Hooper, on that note, having read over a large amount of licensing information due to links to past discussions. [[User:Jwguy|Jwguy]] 12:11, 19 August 2011 (MDT)<br />
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:Sorry I meant "irrelevant". I spelled it wrong initially and in Firefox the first spellcheck result turned up with "irreverent".<br />
:"Considering itself irrelevant or subservient" to its own functions was meant.<br />
:Not accepting anything, ''linking'' to a site out of respect which does considers D&D Wiki's functions irrelevant and subversive (through the link) makes D&D Wiki then consider itself also so (or recognize such a consideration). This is what I am talking about. --[[User:Green Dragon|Green Dragon]] 23:07, 19 August 2011 (MDT)<br />
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::Except that reason makes not a lick of sense and gives the impression that you do not understand the facts. Did you somehow got the Oggies confused with...what, the Internet Razzies? Is it Opposite Week? As near as I can tell, OGRE is a roleplaying organization which wishes to acknowledge the D&D wiki as a fine D&D resource upon the Internet. '''They nominated the wiki for an award'''. One would think you would at least crack a smile over the fact that at least a few people in an unaffiliated group nominated the wiki for one of their awards and allow the nomination to be acknowledged and claim the prize if you get it. By the way, Hooper, which award was it? [[Special:Contributions/173.245.56.158|173.245.56.158]] 00:22, 20 August 2011 (MDT)<br />
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:::I'd link to it, but......... Its "Website of the Year." Other contestants include a project funding platform site, a community game development & playtest site, an RPG advocacy site, etc. {{User:Hooper/autosig2}} 09:57, 20 August 2011 (MDT)<br />
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::::Green Dragon, your previous comments can barely be considered English. I'm having a hard time understanding you. Are you suggesting that OGRE, through its licensing, is acting as though we exist to serve them? That is perhaps one of the silliest things I've ever heard on this wiki, and I've been part of some incredibly asinine discussions here. --[[User:Badger|Badger]] 10:55, 20 August 2011 (MDT)<br />
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:::::Were they to license the content under the GNU FDL v1.2 appropriately (comparable to OGC; if it is allowed) it would be different. However implying that D&D Wiki's functions are nonexistent or irrelevant to others' functions is, by definition, an irrelevant or subservient consideration. --[[User:Green Dragon|Green Dragon]] 12:01, 20 August 2011 (MDT)<br />
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::::::What content or license? The award is not a license, its simply an award. The winners will be given fair use to display the appropriate award. That's the only license at all related to this. GD, everyone is having a very hard time understanding you. We're not trying to be rude, it just seems like you're making no sense.The award is simply an acknowledgement of appreciation, it has no other effect. To say an acknowledgements somehow equals irrelevance is hard to follow. {{User:Hooper/autosig2}} 12:10, 20 August 2011 (MDT)<br />
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:::::::The mixing, picking, and matching going on here I cannot understand. A is to A as A is to A. See also [[Talk:DnD Links#Lifestyles]] for more information about the problem. --[[User:Green Dragon|Green Dragon]] 13:54, 20 August 2011 (MDT)<br />
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::::::::Umm, what? I don't know if this is the worse, or best, conversation ever. {{User:Hooper/autosig2}} 15:06, 20 August 2011 (MDT)<br />
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:::::::::Hooper, this is the exact same problem that we had with the other wiki. Content licensing and re-licensing. Green Dragon has one understanding of the law, and some people (a number that appears to include everyone else in the world) has a different understanding. This time, OGRE has licensed the Valgora setting under CC-BY-SA, and we have it under GNU FDL v1.2. Because these aren't the same license, GD feels (and correct me if I'm wrong) that we are being slighted/ignored/other bad things. Because of that, we here at D&Dwiki will pretend that they don't exist, until they begin to comply with GD's understanding of the law. It seems foolish for us to ask you to re-license your material under GNU FDL v1.2 (considering it is an out-dated license anyway), so I won't even bother asking you to consider it. And, to answer your last comment, having been in my fair share of conversations, I'm going to say this is neither the best or the worst. However, his last comment might go down in history alongside a few other gems of what I call EnGDlish. --[[User:Badger|Badger]] 17:35, 20 August 2011 (MDT)<br />
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::::::::::<cite>Were they to license the content under the GNU FDL v1.2 appropriately (comparable to OGC; if it is allowed) it would be different. <b>However implying that D&D Wiki's functions are nonexistent or irrelevant to others' functions is, by definition, an irrelevant or subservient consideration. --Green Dragon</b></cite><br />
::::::::::Green Dragon, I will presume this is your main and only prominent standing argument against accepting the award. I provide the following rebuttal: First, I wish to know, by link and explanation, preferably, when, where, and how O.G.R.E. has implied this, or that the award has implied this; These are the only subjects that would be considered relevant to your argument, on the subject at hand, as these appear to be the only subjects concerning our site, here. Second, the emboldened text is a bit of stretch, on your part: While you are incorrect regarding the 'by definition' part, since considering ''anything'' irrelevant or non-existent does not match the definition of subservient (I posted it earlier), and irrelevance references itself in irrelevant, I fail to see why this matters? The key point of '''Irrelevant''', by definition, is that there is no connection, no relation, unimportant in circumstance or consideration, etc., and therefore, the idea that the site uses a different, but entirely legal, correct, and appropriate license, is inconsequential to D&D Wiki in every way, since the two sites are not related. All that matters is the legality of each item, viewed separately from each site, on the level that we are, now. There is no conflict or relation. Because of these reasons, I fail to see why you argue this point, or how you believe this award is unacceptable. There is no subservience, at all, and there is no irrelevance in accepting the award (We accept the award based on the fact that it is award to our site, for our content, and is therefore relevant to the site), and the site is irrelevant in every other manner (licensing, members, etc.). [[User:Jwguy|Jwguy]] 10:58, 21 August 2011 (MDT)<br />
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::::::::::::{{Warning/Text}} It also appears that he specifically checks the license a particular thing is under. {{Warning/Text}} [[Special:Contributions/173.245.56.158|173.245.56.158]] 11:47, 21 August 2011 (MDT)<br />
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:::::::::::::''(a number that appears to include everyone else in the world)'' does not include people who need to care. People with authoritative knowledge on this subject has reaffirmed what I have been saying. This is just one of those "internet postings myths" that people seem to cling to. Humans are varied.<br />
:::::::::::::With my terminology I was just putting an opinion onto the subject. The fact comes from [[DnD Links]] (top text). This answers many of the questions about this subject.<br />
:::::::::::::''(considering it is an out-dated license anyway)'' does not include the fact that new MW installs still list it as a possibility. Whatever outdated means as well. --[[User:Green Dragon|Green Dragon]] 17:21, 21 August 2011 (MDT)<br />
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:Regardless of my unattended argument, I decided to do some research on my own. Google is great, praise it. I came up with a simple solution. Why don't we just upgrade our license to GNU FDL 1.3? It is a more up-to-date version of our current license, and 'lo and behold, it manages to get rid of the whole compability problem with CC-BY-SA. At this point, clinging to 1.2, an obsolete version of the license, only generates more problems and needless strife. This option allows us to not bicker over this obviously controversial issue (Of which I must comment, Green Dragon, that sometimes your replies are hard to understand and do not address presented issues, and can exacerbate that), an issue which has apparently been active for a good long time before this one, according to the many links that we've been presented.<br />
:To summarize, every bit of this can be avoid by simply upgrading to the new GNU Free Documentation License 1.3, which <i>does</i> allow usage under CC-BY-SA. No-one loses face, no-one argues about vague legalese, and we have a happy wiki. [[User:Jwguy|Jwguy]] 00:28, 22 August 2011 (MDT)<br />
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::That was mentioned during our last debate. Nothing came of it. Not sure why, as it does solve all our problems. I think it has something to do with we aren't legally allowed to update our license, if I recall correctly. --[[User:Badger|Badger]] 18:51, 22 August 2011 (MDT)<br />
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:::We could upgrade. Why? What is wrong with the GNU FDL v1.2? It is still offered on new MW installs. Is it because of a fear complex that we should? This is the only reason I can devise from such an idea, and one I would not like to pursue. --[[User:Green Dragon|Green Dragon]] 23:44, 23 August 2011 (MDT)<br />
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::::Why upgrade? Here is a page that explains the changes, and why we should consider it: [http://www.gnu.org/licenses/fdl-1.3-faq.html] Basically, it says "We can play nicely with people who use different licenses". I see no reason why we shouldn't extend a metaphorical olive branch and say "You play D&D. I play D&D. Let's be friendly." --[[User:Badger|Badger]] 18:59, 24 August 2011 (MDT)<br />
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:::::Still, why? What is wrong with the GNU FDL v1.2? I have no idea why Wikipedia did what it did. The current license does not have any holes or flaws that I can think of, and creating an environment for licensing is ingrained in any case, so why create cross-dependency? Making things simpler is always better then more complex, and a cross-dependency is more complex for everyone. We allow CC-BY-NC-SA content (see also [[Template:Cc-by-nc-sa]]). That is the current method&ndash; why a cross-dependency? --[[User:Green Dragon|Green Dragon]] 18:46, 25 August 2011 (MDT)<br />
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::::::How many novel-length debates do we need to have before you acknowledge that a large portion of the user base isn't satisfied with the current licensing arrangement? Sure, there may not be anything inherently ''wrong'' with v1.2, but v1.3 is ''specifically designed for wiki projects''. Also, there would be no "cross-dependency". Literally nothing would change, except for where we can link. It wouldn't be more complex. In fact, most people wouldn't notice a change, and those that do would notice an improvement, not a more complicated system! Did you get a chance to ask the GNU FDL people about allowing multiple licences of the same content yet? --[[User:Badger|Badger]] 12:42, 26 August 2011 (MDT)<br />
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:::::::Who actually cares about the current licensing situation, save a few (I can only list a few users) who care about making an annoying situation about a myth every time they can? It gets on my nerves, and it wastes my time. Maybe we can put a policy in about redundant discussions. The question remains: What is wrong with CC-BY-NC-SA content (see also [[Template:Cc-by-nc-sa]])? --[[User:Green Dragon|Green Dragon]] 13:45, 26 August 2011 (MDT)<br />
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::::::::Nothing, Green Dragon. Nothing is wrong with CC-BY-NC-SA content. Here's what I don't get, though. You know at least a handful of people who don't like the current situation. Fixing their problem would be as simple as a half dozen edits, and no more than 15 minutes of your time. The question remains: If this is a recurring problem for you, why not address it, rather than make a policy that forces us to ignore it? --[[User:Badger|Badger]] 14:08, 26 August 2011 (MDT)<br />
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:::::::::I imagine the flip side would get on many people's nerves. I know having multiple licenses (which is variable itself) and having them dependent on one another would be annoying for me. And when I say "''annoying situation''" I mean that users may be creating it for a number of reasons. I am not a psychiatrist, however I understand that people may be annoying for annoying's sake, have a reason behind it (hidden or not), or feel feelings about the situation. These, however, are not policy reasons. We are not in charge or anything really (D&D is D&D) except for how D&D Wiki's policies play out for it's users. Where a president may act on feelings (for example) there is no reason for us to. It accomplishes nothing. We must act on creating an environment where users understand their contributions (for the most part) and are okay with them. I find that creating multiple license dependency (where two separate licenses work just fine) does harm to our actions as administrators. --[[User:Green Dragon|Green Dragon]] 17:30, 26 August 2011 (MDT)<br />
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::::::::::I'm not sure I understand most of what you've written there, but I think I got the gist of it. However, if we ''update'' to v1.3 of the GNU FDL we won't have to worry about multiple licenses. It would also allow us to "play nicely" with people who use CC-BY-SA, though ''we don't have to use it on our site''. Like I said, nothing would change in the eyes of 99% of the userbase. --[[User:Badger|Badger]] 19:09, 26 August 2011 (MDT)<br />
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:::::::::::Wikipedia is now dual licensed (or something like that), and we already have a solution for this (see also [[Template:Cc-by-nc-sa]]) so I do not see a reason at all. --[[User:Green Dragon|Green Dragon]] 19:38, 26 August 2011 (MDT)<br />
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::::::::::::I think you may be taking the issue in the wrong direction, Green Dragon. It's been stated multiple times: The argument lies in the fact that either you, or D&D Wiki's license policies, depending on who wants to direct blame at which party, have caused this confrontation regarding O.G.R.E.S.; I don't believe anyone here in the opposition has a problem with CC-BY-SA. Quite the opposite, it appears that you believe GNU FDL 1.2 conflicts with the idea derivative works that take up the license or different licenses, and while possibly justified (We've heard many arguments on each side of this), this is just making things complicated and frustrating.<br />
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::::::::::::GNU FDL 1.2 was obsolete the moment 1.3 was released. This issue, and similar issues regarding license conflict, has divided the user-base of this wiki for far too long, and if that is not reason enough, then add in the factor that this allows us to accept wonderful awards and cooperate with other wikis, instead of reverting to another one of these large, drawn out arguments, and achieving nothing. Don't speak for the unspoken, but listen to those who have come forward to speak for themselves; You'll find that some of your greatest and most active remaining members are here, even if hundreds of numbers stay quiet, whether for or against the issue is unknown. This is not the time to be '''stubborn''', either. If anything, then why not have a vote, and be done with it? [[User:Jwguy|Jwguy]] 08:41, 27 August 2011 (MDT)<br />
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With this much bickering, I'm not sure that we deserve a "best of" anything award. [[User:Jazzman831|Jazz]][[User talk:Jazzman831|Man]] 17:55, 21 August 2011 (MDT)<br />
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:We'd be a shoo-in for "Website with most internal strife", though. Any chance of that being a category next year, Hooper? ''':)''' --[[User:Badger|Badger]] 20:07, 21 August 2011 (MDT)<br />
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::I think its all the ways of making things which are dealt with completely differently on other wikis (like Wikipedia) workable in a wiki environment. Who knew links were going to be selective? I had known for a while that something had to be done. Who knew that blocking was to be used in disjuncture? Who knows. --[[User:Green Dragon|Green Dragon]] 20:17, 21 August 2011 (MDT)<br />
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:::I'm not really sure what that means, but I don't think that's it. [[User:Jazzman831|Jazz]][[User talk:Jazzman831|Man]] 22:35, 21 August 2011 (MDT)<br />
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::::It probably has to do with the administration or something. Who knows. It is all so mysterious. --[[Special:Contributions/173.245.50.26|173.245.50.26]] 14:50, 22 August 2011 (MDT)<br />
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:::::Umm... [[DnD Links]] and [[Warning Policy]] are so...? Read them please. --[[User:Green Dragon|Green Dragon]] 20:10, 22 August 2011 (MDT)<br />
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::::::Are so... what? You can't really blame them for anything, since we can change the policy to be whatever we want. [[User:Jazzman831|Jazz]][[User talk:Jazzman831|Man]] 09:05, 23 August 2011 (MDT)<br />
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:::::::Hooper should win the "making up awards that mean nothing" award. Also the "most [[Discussion:Trust_Issues|chihuahua-like]]" award. Actually, Hooper should make up a million awards and give them to himself; he earned them! Green Dragon, I don't get why you would turn down such a prestigious award. --[[Special:Contributions/173.245.55.206|173.245.55.206]] 19:11, 23 August 2011 (MDT)<br />
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::::::::They can change the policy as well. Policy is done though a wiki. Who says the current method is best? I don't know what they are like to some. Mysterious I guess (as mentioned above). It's the policy turning town the award. --[[User:Green Dragon|Green Dragon]] 21:02, 23 August 2011 (MDT)<br />
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:::::::::Alright then Green Dragon, where should we go to discuss policy changes? Give me a link to a page, or make a discussion page or something, and let's have a policy discussion. --[[User:Badger|Badger]] 21:18, 23 August 2011 (MDT)<br />
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::::::::::[[Help:Talk Pages]] and [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Help:Using_talk_pages Help:Using_talk_pages] should direct you where appropriately. --[[User:Green Dragon|Green Dragon]] 22:25, 23 August 2011 (MDT)<br />
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:::::::::::You're kidding, right? I know how to sign a comment, I want to know where you want to hold a discussion about policy changes. If you give me a link, I'll know you'll know where to join the conversation. We've talked about policy choices in the past, and you've never weighed in, so we accomplish nothing (for example, [[Discussion:Re-opening_the_tavern%3F_What_does_the_community_think%3F|here]]). --[[User:Badger|Badger]] 22:40, 23 August 2011 (MDT)<br />
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::::::::::::Ha, bad troll is bad. Welcome back "totally anonymous" "third party" user! I'm so excited about your opinion! Come back to me with it when you're helping run an awards program for a international non-profit with over 3,000 members across 15 states and three countries! Your posts give me such faith that you'll do it!<br />
::::::::::::Yawn, back to life (back to reality). Only our big categories (i.e. game of year, company of year, lifetime etc.) got tons of member nominations. Our smaller categories like website were based on just a handful (for instance, I have no qualms telling you that D&D Wiki made the last official nominee position with just 7 nominations) - so it really isn't upsetting anything on O.G.R.E.s end to move the next site up in the rank. However, as a longtime site user, speaking not from the O.G.R.E.s side but the D&D Wiki side - it is extremely disappointing that proven false interpretations and misunderstandings of licensing laws have stunted the growth rate of the site ''(though by no means killed it - yet)'', and to now even prevent recognition and appreciation and celebration of the site. Meh. {{User:Hooper/autosig2}} 23:00, 23 August 2011 (MDT)<br />
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:::::::::::::Things which require a technological advancement (not using something we have) are a different matter of course. I mean wiki policy changes.<br />
:::::::::::::Well, you can talk to people with authoritative knowledge about the licensing problems. We are not rejecting the award by no means, we are just not allowing it mentioned here (for the time being at least). How a site does something to D&D Wiki is not D&D Wiki's concern. --[[User:Green Dragon|Green Dragon]] 23:41, 23 August 2011 (MDT)<br />
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:I can't find out how to contact "people with authoritative knowledge about licensing problems". Tell you what, can you just email them and ask them a simple question "is it legal to license the same content under multiple licenses, specifically GNU FDL v1.2 and CC-BY-SA?" Just that, that exact question. If they respond with "Yes" I hope you'll understand what we've all been saying this whole time. --[[User:Badger|Badger]] 23:59, 23 August 2011 (MDT)<br />
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::Wait, wait, wait! We have a policy against receiving awards? Where is that one? [[User:Jazzman831|Jazz]][[User talk:Jazzman831|Man]] 09:31, 25 August 2011 (MDT)<br />
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:::We don't have a policy that says we can't take awards in general. We do, however, seem to have a policy that requires us to turn down this one. Personally, I'd rather lose out on an award because we suck, rather than because of licensing misunderstandings. --[[User:Badger|Badger]] 10:21, 25 August 2011 (MDT)<br />
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::::So, GD - let me make sure I understand what you've said. You're okay being on the list, for possible voting - just not with making any back links (which we're not asking for). Is that correct? Just let me know before the 1st, when voting starts. {{User:Hooper/autosig2}} 16:45, 25 August 2011 (MDT)<br />
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:::::Everything is fine except that we may not give such a [[DnD Links|link]]. We could if (well, when) the licensing problems are resolved. --[[User:Green Dragon|Green Dragon]] 18:46, 25 August 2011 (MDT)<br />
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::::::Where is ''that'' policy? The only thing on [[DnD Links]] is a link to [[Meta_Pages#Policies]], which, I don't think, says anything about (a) awards, (b) links to other sites, (c) copyright licensing, or (d) compatibility thereof. Unless I'm just missing it somewhere. [[User:Jazzman831|Jazz]][[User talk:Jazzman831|Man]] 20:50, 25 August 2011 (MDT)<br />
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:::::::It's the "''As per [[Meta Pages#Policies|policy]] the following external links are the only ones that may be referenced. However the external link reference does not have to be in the same format as the following external links.''" --[[User:Green Dragon|Green Dragon]] 20:56, 25 August 2011 (MDT)<br />
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::::::::So all we have to do to be able to add links to the OGRE site is to add links to the OGRE Site on DnD Links. There isn't a policy that says how we add links to DnD Links, though, so there's nothing stopping us from adding OGRES to DnD Links, then to this page, thus letting us accept the award. (None of this is actually referenced on the policies page it's linked to.) [[User:Jazzman831|Jazz]][[User talk:Jazzman831|Man]] 22:29, 25 August 2011 (MDT)<br />
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:::::::::O.G.R.E.s doesn't want or need a link, though. Our site is for members or potential members, and we don't link whore. That isn't what our awards program is for either (its just one of many things we do). So, we don't require a back link at all. So, with that in mind, I guess GD is saying that the site can accept the award but never mention it outside talk pages, because we also host some of our Valgora stuff (which we have full legal right to do so...). Additionally, I don't think it's appropriate for O.G.R.E.s to be linked to from the Links site, because we're not a solely D&D or such club - we are very vocal about our All Tabletop Games/Systems/Companies/Setting/Etc. philosophy. So the average D&D Wiki browser probably isn't our core audience, though a RPGA link or Pathfinder Society link may be appropriate.<br />
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:::::::::Anyways, back on topic - I suppose we'll leave that site on the vote. I don't know how, or if, GD wants to showcase a win if the site does get a gold or silver ''(possibly a userbox style code without a link just the info?)'', but that isn't my concern when I'm the me-who-works-for-OGREs. But as the me-who-is-a-site-member, it is. {{User:Hooper/autosig2}} 23:10, 25 August 2011 (MDT)<br />
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:::::::::::Yes, Jazzman, all we have to do to allow the link is to add O.G.R.E to DnD_Links. However, GD has said we cannot add it to DnD_Links because of some licensing problem (be it real or imaginary). Personally, I'm all for following the first policy we have listed under policies: {{quote<br />
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::::::::::::Oh, it's fine to host [[:Category:Valgora Setting|valgora]] content. It just must be licensed as it is. The [[DnD Links|link]] or no link discussion is for [[Talk:DnD Links]] (MW?). I am not for the policy mentioned above since it undermines D&D Wiki. That's insulting. --[[User:Green Dragon|Green Dragon]] 13:45, 26 August 2011 (MDT)<br />
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:::::::::::::How does doing something to improve or maintain D&D Wiki undermine it? Does it undermine some of the past decisions you've unilaterally set forth? Perhaps, but it doesn't undermine the wiki. --[[User:Badger|Badger]] 14:08, 26 August 2011 (MDT)<br />
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:Considering that Valgora originated on CBGwiki, which allows derivative copies under similar license - and that the OGREs hosted version came from there - this is a moot point. So its twice moot. Short story: lets keep with the times and update the license. Community vote first if you'd prefer. {{User:Hooper/autosig2}} 17:08, 26 August 2011 (MDT)<br />
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::The contributions date still point here. Thanks for the information though, I guess the same is with them. --[[User:Green Dragon|Green Dragon]] 17:30, 26 August 2011 (MDT)<br />
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:::I've missed a couple points here, so I'm going to backtrack the discussion a bit. Firstly, if I can reiterate the "policy" issues, I see no reason why we can't link to OGRES. Here's the chain or logic:<br />
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::::#Therefore you may link to the site elsewhere per (1)<br />
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::::Is there a flaw in my logic? If so, with what step, what is the flaw, and where is the policy posted?<br />
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::::On the topic of "undermining": if you read the full context of the text Badger quoted, you will see that the whole reason it is there is because we are too lazy to create our own rules, and instead link to Wikipedia. The effect of this is, we use Wikipedia's rules, except in cases where their rules are incompatible with our purpose. For example [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:OR WP:OR] does not apply to custom content created on this wiki. It does not undermine D&D Wiki, but it does leave us with a problem: who gets to decide when we are better off ignoring a given rule? [[User:Jazzman831|Jazz]][[User talk:Jazzman831|Man]] 18:12, 26 August 2011 (MDT)<br />
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:::::"''You can only place a link on DnD links if it follows the general policies of the website''"; which it does not. This is a discussion for [[DnD Links|links]].<br />
:::::None of this is determined by Wikipedia however. --[[User:Green Dragon|Green Dragon]] 18:32, 26 August 2011 (MDT)<br />
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::::::Which policy? Can you please point to it? I'd argue that while this may also apply to DnD links, I'm ultimately discussing the award, not whether or not we can link. [[User:Jazzman831|Jazz]][[User talk:Jazzman831|Man]] 18:42, 26 August 2011 (MDT)<br />
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:::::::Rudeness: belittling; other uncivil behaviors: lying to the appropriate entity (D&D Wiki). --[[User:Green Dragon|Green Dragon]] 19:17, 26 August 2011 (MDT)<br />
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::::::::You didn't link to it, so I can only assume you are talking about the [[Warning Policy]]. Regardless of whether or not the website is doing those things (and I'll go out and say that they aren't), that policy applies to editors, not links. It's at best a huge stretch and at worst a gross misinterpretation to apply the warning policy to external websites. Unless you were talking about something else? I'll admit I have trouble navigating the policies. [[User:Jazzman831|Jazz]][[User talk:Jazzman831|Man]] 19:37, 26 August 2011 (MDT)<br />
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:::::::::No, actually I was not. The [[Warning Policy]] has bases, however those bases are not exclusive. --[[User:Green Dragon|Green Dragon]] 20:15, 26 August 2011 (MDT)<br />
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::::::::::Considering O.G.R.E.s has never contacted you ''(this message about the award I posted as a long time user here being the most official contact - ever)'', to say rudeness, belittling, or lying has been done is extremely uncivil on your part, GD. {{User:Hooper/autosig2}} 08:33, 27 August 2011 (MDT)<br />
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:::::::::::Not to be too confrontational, but this really seems to indicate that you may have a personal experience with this site or it's users that could potentially influence your opinion. Honestly, I feel it would explain a lot, especially since you appear to oppose and reject even feasible solutions that don't challenge the definitions of the license we currently use, such as upgrading to the new, improved, and problem-solving v1.3.<br />
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:::::::::::Back on topic, could you please be specific? Which policies does the award, or even O.G.R.E.S. violate, and please link or explain this, in detail. I cannot speak from the same position has Hooper regarding what O.G.R.E.S. has done in the past, as I lack the same status as a member, but I find that being vague is not going to help these matters. [[User:Jwguy|Jwguy]] 08:57, 27 August 2011 (MDT)<br />
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::::::::::::I'd love to know as well. But it is my understanding that GD simply believes that hosting [[:Category:Valgora Setting]] content on O.G.R.E.s wiki violated the licensing agreement for Valgora on this wiki ''(an argument proven wrong at [[Talk:GNU Free Documentation License 1.3#Updating]].'' With that in mind though, let's keep all licensing conversations there, to make this easier to follow and contribute to for all users. {{User:Hooper/autosig2}} 09:04, 27 August 2011 (MDT)<br />
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:::::::::::::Even if that were the case, there's no policy keeping us from linking to a site with an incompatible license. Likewise, there's no policy keeping us from linking to a site that is rude or belittles us. GD, you stated that linking to O.G.R.E.s does not follow the general policy of this website. Can you please ''link'' to the policy we would be violating? If it's not Warning Policy, I just don't know what it is. [[User:Jazzman831|Jazz]][[User talk:Jazzman831|Man]] 09:10, 27 August 2011 (MDT)<br />
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:It cannot be [[Warning Policy]] ("''When one does not edit''" just doesn't apply). I said it once and I'll say it again "''Rudeness: belittling; other uncivil behaviors: lying to the appropriate entity (D&D Wiki).''" If the grammar is the problem, look up what each word means and then work the sentence out. --[[User:Green Dragon|Green Dragon]] 11:49, 28 August 2011 (MDT)<br />
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::''I've'' said it before, and ''I'll'' say it again: show me a link. I know very well what those words mean, I just don't know where you're coming up with them. If it's policy, it's on this website somewhere. If it's not on this website (or within Wikipedia's policies, though I don't think they have any that apply in this instance because they have significantly looser requirements to posting outside links), then it's not policy. [[User:Jazzman831|Jazz]][[User talk:Jazzman831|Man]] 13:12, 28 August 2011 (MDT)<br />
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:::If you care look into it. I'm not going to do something which is so easily done it hurts me to do it. There is an answer to this. --[[User:Green Dragon|Green Dragon]] 13:52, 28 August 2011 (MDT)<br />
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::::I have to admit, that comment makes me feel a little belittled. That being said, I can't find the policy which says we can't link to sites that are rude, belittling, uncivil, or lie to us. And neither could [http://search.yahoo.com/search;_ylt=A0oG7hhEn1pOvkQA9wZXNyoA;_ylc=X1MDUCMyNzY2Njc5BF9yAzIEYW8DMARjc3JjcHZpZANXM0tYeGtvRzd2N1hhMDNMVGtLZW5nQXdybVdmRFU1YW4wUUFDdEo3BGZyA3lmcC10LTcwMQRmcjIDc2J0bgRuX2dwcwMwBG9yaWdpbgNzcnAEcXVlcnkDc2l0ZTpkYW5kd2lraS5jb20gInJ1ZGVuZXNzOyBiZWxpdHRsaW5nIgRzYW8DMQR2dGVzdGlkA1NNRTAzNg--?p=site%3Adandwiki.com+%22rudeness%3B+belittling%22&fr2=sb-top&fr=yfp-t-701&type_param=&rd=pref Yahoo!] [http://search.yahoo.com/search;_ylt=A0oG7kz9oFpOLF8AnPxXNyoA;_ylc=X1MDUCMyNzY2Njc5BF9yAzIEYW8DMARjc3JjcHZpZANaNm1MY1VvRzd2N1hhMDNMVGtLZW5nZG1ybVdmRFU1YW9QMEFBNmJOBGZyA3lmcC10LTcwMQRmcjIDc2J0bgRuX2dwcwMwBG9yaWdpbgNzcnAEcXVlcnkDc2l0ZTpkYW5kd2lraS5jb20gImx5aW5nIHRvIHRoZSBhcHByb3ByaWF0ZSBlbnRpdHkiBHNhbwMxBHZ0ZXN0aWQDU01FMDM2?p=site%3Adandwiki.com+%22lying+to+the+appropriate+entity%22&fr2=sb-top&fr=yfp-t-701&type_param=&rd=pref] [[User:Jazzman831|Jazz]][[User talk:Jazzman831|Man]] 14:20, 28 August 2011 (MDT)<br />
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:::::"''When one does not edit''" is a play on words. Websites do not edit, therefore they are treated like a normal Wikipedia user (which does not have a [[Warning Policy]]). They must fix the problem or get banned. --[[User:Green Dragon|Green Dragon]] 20:44, 30 August 2011 (MDT)<br />
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::::::As much as I love wordplay, official policy should not include puns. In the future, please be more clear about what you mean. We were all confused for some time by your wording. --[[User:Badger|Badger]] 20:46, 30 August 2011 (MDT)<br />
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:::::::I'm not really sure this violates any WikiP policies, either. If you treat a website like a "user", then "banning" said "user" would mean not allowing him to edit. OGREs isn't editing D&D Wiki, we are. [[User:Jazzman831|Jazz]][[User talk:Jazzman831|Man]] 13:34, 31 August 2011 (MDT)<br />
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::::::::Though it seems pointless, voting is open. Figure out the link if you wish. The site is currently way behind in it's category, however. {{User:Hooper/autosig2}} 13:41, 4 September 2011 (MDT)<br />
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== Digital D&D Books ==<br />
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a digital copy of one of the books with [OEF] or [OCR] at the end means what? they are pdf files and im not sure what it stands for --[[User:Ozzy1234567890|Ozzy1234567890]] 09:19, 10 October 2011 (MDT)<br />
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:Those terms are not associated with D&D, but rather with PDFs in general. OEF stands for "Original Electronic Format" which means it is the document they send to the printers, not a scan of the physical book's pages. OCR stands for Optical Character Recognition, which means you can use the search function of a PDF viewer to search for text. If a PDF is not OCR it essentially treats each page as a picture, so you can't copy/paste text, or search for words. On a related note, piracy is bad. I know buying books is stupid expensive (and fills up a lot of space, and less convenient, and less functional), but it is one of the best ways to show support, especially for indie developers and smaller publishing groups. --[[User:Badger|Badger]] 11:31, 10 October 2011 (MDT)<br />
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::"less convenient, and less functional"? i dont know what your talking about. i prefer hardcopies over pdf, cause i can stick my fingers in the pages and flip through half the book in a few seconds. [[User:Zau|Zau]] 14:35, 10 October 2011 (MDT)<br />
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:::I agree that paper is nicer to read then pdfs. I find that reading is much more enjoyable in a non-digital format because no screen must be read the entire time, it normally is more comfortable, it's less effort, etc. Also, there are websites (not sure how they work with piracy) which host D&D books. One may be able to download pdfs from them for a membership price. --[[User:Green Dragon|Green Dragon]] 14:40, 10 October 2011 (MDT)<br />
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::::Have you ever brought 50 books to a table to play D&D? Nope, but you can instantly pull open a new PDF. As for less functional, I could go either way with that one. Assuming you have a decent PDF viewer, you can make annotations, add bookmarks, highlight, and search entire books for phrases, rather than have to use an index. I know I'm the only one at my table that prefers a hard copy, and these are the reasons they usually cite. Hosting D&D books is almost certainly illegal. If it's not uploaded by something like "DNDWizards" or whatever else, odds are it isn't released by WotC. --[[User:Badger|Badger]] 16:01, 10 October 2011 (MDT)<br />
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::Thanks Badger! And I agree, paper is better in my opinion. I just need my own physical copies rather than copies at a friends house 2 hours away. --[[User:Ozzy1234567890|Ozzy1234567890]] 08:57, 21 October 2011 (MDT)<br />
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== Glitch? ==<br />
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Is this a glitch? I tried to make a new mundane weapon, however when the editing page came up it said something like "wikify| could not load" or something like that. Please look into it. --[[User:Reddragonl33t|Reddragonl33t]]<br />
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:With so little information, there's no way to tell if it was a glitch. I kind of doubt it was, though. [[User:Jazzman831|Jazz]][[User talk:Jazzman831|Man]] 13:00, 18 October 2011 (MDT)<br />
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::Was the page name already in use? I tried to make a weapon page (per [[Add New 3.5e Equipment]]) and it worked fine. --[[User:Green Dragon|Green Dragon]] 18:28, 18 October 2011 (MDT)</div>Ozzy1234567890https://www.dandwiki.com/w/index.php?title=Talk:Main_Page&diff=537608Talk:Main Page2011-10-10T15:19:38Z<p>Ozzy1234567890: /* Digital D&D Books */ new section</p>
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== Anti Wiki Criticism ==<br />
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This is the most useful Wiki I have ever found on D&D, (and I've seen a LOT of on-line references). I am currently running an adventure and I keep this site open on my lap-top as I play. It saves me a great deal of time and speeds up play considerably. I almost never even open my Monster Manual anymore.<br />
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Kudos to the WebMaster. --[[User:Gildavinor|Gildavinor]] 18:13, 25 September 2009 (MDT)<br />
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:I agree very strongly with you, Gild! Though I didn't sign in very often previously, I absolutely adore this Wiki. It's the pinnacle of Dungeons and Dragons research and innovation. --[[User:Harry Mason|Harry Mason]] 18:42, 25 September 2009 (MDT)<br />
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::Taking sides in any instance is a bad idea... Neutrality is a great observational instrument if one is not affiliated therein. --[[User:Green Dragon|Green Dragon]] 21:51, 25 September 2009 (MDT)<br />
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:::Totally agree. --[[User:Lord Mattos|Lord Mattos]] 11:14, 29 November 2009 (MST)<br />
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== Two Millionth View! ==<br />
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Looks like today was [[Special:Statistics|the day]] folks! 2 million views on the main page! &nbsp;<small><span style="border: 1px solid black; -moz-border-radius:10px">[[User:Hooper|'''<span style="background-color:White; color:Black; -moz-border-radius-topleft:10px; -moz-border-radius-bottomleft:10px"> Hooper </span>''']][[User talk:Hooper|<span style="background-color:Black; color:white; -moz-border-radius-bottomleft:10px; -moz-border-radius-topleft:10px">&nbsp;&nbsp;talk&nbsp;&nbsp;</span>]][[Special:Contributions/Hooper|<span style="background-color:black; color:white">&nbsp;&nbsp;contribs&nbsp;&nbsp;</span>]][[Special:Emailuser/Hooper|<span style="background-color:black; color:white; -moz-border-radius-bottomright:10px; -moz-border-radius-topright:10px">&nbsp;&nbsp;email&nbsp;&nbsp;</span>]]</span></small> 12:46, 14 October 2009 (MDT)<br />
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:Yeah, now there are 2,299,388 views (Jan. 13,2010)! Wohoo! --[[User:Io|Io]] 16:52, 13 January 2010<br />
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And now, in the november of 2010, we have 3,080,184 views!<br />
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== Size ==<br />
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how many Megabytes is this whole site? {{Unsigned|216.12.83.73|22:29, 15 November 2009 (MDT)}}<br />
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:Why? --[[User:Green Dragon|Green Dragon]] 23:40, 15 November 2009 (MST)<br />
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::I was thinking of copying the source code so i cant look at it offline--[[User:Lo-Chi|Lt.Dan]] 07:20, 16 November 2009 (MST)<br />
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:::You don't need the size of D&D Wiki as a whole when looking at the source code ("''View Page Source''" for Mozilla Firefox). --[[User:Green Dragon|Green Dragon]] 12:12, 16 November 2009 (MST)<br />
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== The Tavern ==<br />
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After a huge hiatus I'm finally back to D&D Wiki (and happy to return!) following a long period of being almost broke. I notice that the Tavern, which was gone when I first had to go...still isn't back. That was one of my favorite parts of the Wiki, and I hope I'm just being stupid and missing it somewhere. Is it gone for good? --[[User:Harry Mason|Harry Mason]] 07:07, 4 February 2010 (UTC)<br />
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:It actually was discontinued. There is no "official" reason as to now however take a look at [[Discussion:The Tavern: use, expansion, and availability.]]. The main reason is "''...it is quite childish and immature at times and I feel at times it decreases the seriousness of D&D Wiki with childish behavior and immaturity.''" [[User:Green Dragon|Green Dragon]] "Discussion:The Tavern: use, expansion, and availability." 21:02, 20 November 2009 (MST). --[[User:Green Dragon|Green Dragon]] 22:07, 4 February 2010 (UTC)<br />
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::Ah...oh well. That's a little sad to me, but I can see the reasoning behind it, it -was- rather vulgar at times. Thank you for replying. :) --[[User:Harry Mason|Harry Mason]] 01:49, 5 February 2010 (UTC)<br />
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:::I'm coming back too and I too liked the tavern... I agree with the reasoning, but I still think we should have an effective way of conversation, since a wiki is not the best tool for talking...<br>Isn't there something that could be implemented in the place of the tavern (and maybe have some rules as to swearing and misbehaviour, making disrespectful users suspended/banned from using it)?--[[User:ElfsMaster|ElfsMaster]] 10:49, 5 February 2010 (UTC)<br />
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::::But this '''is''' a wiki, and by not having the sidetrack of a chat users may tend to rely more on the already established discussion tool. Or they can leave messages on talk pages of other users. It actually encourages the opening of discussions and talks between users on the wiki - which can lead to more wiki additions and improvements, instead of just idle chatter. &nbsp;<small><span style="border: 1px solid black; -moz-border-radius:10px">[[User:Hooper|'''<span style="background-color:White; color:Black; -moz-border-radius-topleft:10px; -moz-border-radius-bottomleft:10px"> Hooper </span>''']][[User talk:Hooper|<span style="background-color:Black; color:white; -moz-border-radius-bottomleft:10px; -moz-border-radius-topleft:10px">&nbsp;&nbsp;talk&nbsp;&nbsp;</span>]][[Special:Contributions/Hooper|<span style="background-color:black; color:white">&nbsp;&nbsp;contribs&nbsp;&nbsp;</span>]][[Special:Emailuser/Hooper|<span style="background-color:black; color:white; -moz-border-radius-bottomright:10px; -moz-border-radius-topright:10px">&nbsp;&nbsp;email&nbsp;&nbsp;</span>]]</span></small> 14:07, 5 February 2010 (UTC)<br />
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:::::Appealing to people in real time is more effective than doing so passively, from what I've found. Also, just because serious discussion does not happen constantly doesn't mean it never does. I understand that a decision has been made however, so that's all I'll say on the matter. -- [[User:Jota|Jota]] 14:20, 5 February 2010 (UTC)<br />
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::::::Why not do something like what facebook has and when a user is logged in, they have a little chat bar? i know there are a lot of difficulties with that, including having "friends lists" and the like, but its an idea. --[[User:Ozzy1234567890|Ozzy1234567890]] 07:21, 26 January 2011 (MST)<br />
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== Search Incapacitation ==<br />
The search function has been completely nonfunctional for me for a good few days, maybe half a week or more now. Once in a while I'll nail to a T an article's name, and it'll transport me there. Just hitting Search or mistyping anything causes it to utterly fail for me. Is this just a localized problem (which I don't think it is, I've used 3 different computers to try and access it, all were on different networks) or what's going on? --[[User:Harry Mason|Harry Mason]] 05:08, 26 February 2010 (UTC)<br />
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:Is it actually giving you an error, or just pulling up the extended/advanced search function ''(which is normal when you don't type an article name perfectly)''?. &nbsp;<small><span style="border: 1px solid black; -moz-border-radius:10px">[[User:Hooper|'''<span style="background-color:White; color:Black; -moz-border-radius-topleft:10px; -moz-border-radius-bottomleft:10px"> Hooper </span>''']][[User talk:Hooper|<span style="background-color:Black; color:white; -moz-border-radius-bottomleft:10px; -moz-border-radius-topleft:10px">&nbsp;&nbsp;talk&nbsp;&nbsp;</span>]][[Special:Contributions/Hooper|<span style="background-color:black; color:white">&nbsp;&nbsp;contribs&nbsp;&nbsp;</span>]][[Special:Emailuser/Hooper|<span style="background-color:black; color:white; -moz-border-radius-bottomright:10px; -moz-border-radius-topright:10px">&nbsp;&nbsp;email&nbsp;&nbsp;</span>]]</span></small> 13:28, 26 February 2010 (UTC)<br />
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::I'm having the same issues, the message "Query failed: connection to localhost:3312 failed (errno=111, msg=Connection refused)" appears when I try to search for something.<br />
::I'm having a similar problem, mainly in that I can't browse things, I can only see things when I search for them, which, makes looking at the diffrent races, quite difficult [[User:Sevant|Sevant]] 18:23, 5 July 2010 (UTC)<br />
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:::Search is working once again. --[[User:Green Dragon|Green Dragon]] 12:14, 22 August 2010 (MDT)<br />
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== Official Content Designation ==<br />
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Could a homebrew template be added? I keep coming here after a Google search and I keep finding overpowered homebrew things (like [[Paragon_of_Light/Darkness_%283.5e_Prestige_Class%29]]) and it usually takes me a moment to figure out that it's not official, just something some random person made up. I'd prefer to see some sort of note to that effect at the top of the page. [[User:Banaticus|Banaticus]] 02:57, 21 May 2010 (UTC)<br />
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:Ummm... A template is already added on all official pages. This is a homebrew site, so all articles are automatically assumed to be homebrew unless they are specified otherwise.--[[User:Vrail|Vrail]] 03:10, 21 May 2010 (UTC)<br />
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::There already is a homebrew template. Look down at the bottom of that page you linked... see where it says "{{DnD Classes Breadcrumb}} &rarr; [[DnD Prestige Classes|Prestige Classes]]"? "Homebrew" is even in the wording of the template. If you are looking for ONLY SRD material then look for pages starting with "SRD:". They will all have OGL templates as well.<br />
::Additionally, much of our homebrew content has ratings by other users, so you should know right away if it's overpowered. [[User:Jazzman831|Jazz]][[User talk:Jazzman831|Man]] 14:39, 21 May 2010 (UTC)<br />
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== Pictures Down? ==<br />
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While it might be my computer, it appears that something happened to the pictures on the site. They don't seem to be displaying. Am I wrong? Was there an announcement that I missed? [[User:Noname|Aristocles]] 05:20, 4 June 2010 (UTC)<br />
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:This question was already brought up on GD's talk page under [[User talk:Green Dragon#Images lost again|this header]]. However no clear answer was given by GD. All I know is that no, it is not your computer, and no there was no announcement. The pictures still exist on the media repository, however they are not linking properly. --[[User:Vrail|Vrail]] 13:05, 4 June 2010 (UTC)<br />
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::Images have been fixed. --[[User:Green Dragon|Green Dragon]] 12:12, 22 August 2010 (MDT)<br />
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:::Are you sure? I dont see any- ANYWHERE!!! [[User:DragonFist|DragonFist]] 20:13, 17 December 2010 (MST)<br />
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::::This may have been a cache problem. I assume this is no longer a problem as they have been working for me for quite a while now. --[[User:Green Dragon|Green Dragon]] 15:13, 9 August 2011 (MDT)<br />
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== Marking a page as homebrew ==<br />
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How do we mark a page as homebrew? Take [Alon (3.5e Deity)] for instance. It turns out he's a homebrew god, although I don't see that anywhere on the page. It's sometimes difficult to tell the difference on this wiki between homebrew things and official things. [[Special:Contributions/97.93.94.242|97.93.94.242]] 12:42, 24 August 2010 (MDT)<br />
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:Any properly-created page should have a clear breadcrumb at the bottom of the page which leads back to a homebrew page. In addition any user-created content belongs in [[:Category:User]]. [[User:Jazzman831|Jazz]][[User talk:Jazzman831|Man]] 13:22, 27 August 2010 (MDT)<br />
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::You can also just click "3.5e Open Game Content" on the sidebar to take you to the "official" material. Almost everything on this site is homebrew. Because of that, what we do is mark pages that are official. If you don't see a template that says "Open Game Content", then the page you are viewing is essentially guaranteed to be homebrew content. --[[User:Badger|Badger]] 14:24, 27 August 2010 (MDT)<br />
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== 3 Million View ==<br />
Just a quick pat on the back, as per Statistics the main page has hit 3 million views. Too bad our news is months behind. &nbsp;<small><span style="border: 1px solid black; -moz-border-radius:10px">[[User:Hooper|'''<span style="background-color:White; color:Black; -moz-border-radius-topleft:10px; -moz-border-radius-bottomleft:10px"> Hooper </span>''']][[User talk:Hooper|<span style="background-color:Black; color:white; -moz-border-radius-bottomleft:10px; -moz-border-radius-topleft:10px">&nbsp;&nbsp;talk&nbsp;&nbsp;</span>]][[Special:Contributions/Hooper|<span style="background-color:black; color:white">&nbsp;&nbsp;contribs&nbsp;&nbsp;</span>]][[Special:Emailuser/Hooper|<span style="background-color:black; color:white; -moz-border-radius-bottomright:10px; -moz-border-radius-topright:10px">&nbsp;&nbsp;email&nbsp;&nbsp;</span>]]</span></small> 22:46, 3 January 2011 (MST)<br />
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:That's ok, I'm months behind on reading --[[User:Calidore Chase|Calidore Chase]] 04:33, 17 March 2011 (MDT)<br />
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== Advice on Creating Animal ==<br />
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Ok so i have no clue how to do this but i want to make an Exploding Chicken animal for D20M and all i know is that its a regular chicken that explodes when within 15ft of any nonchaotic for 1d6 damage at a range of 20ft. they have a total health of 3. they also are weak and are just mobile... firecracker i guess would be the best way of puting it. my DM said to just put it on here cause he wants to see what others think. thanks! *EDIT* i ment D20M Apocolypse<br />
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:I can't give you mechanical help with creating your creature, but I can give you wiki help. Go [[Add_a_New_D20M_Creature|here]] and replace "CreatureName" with "Exploding Chicken" or whatever you want to name it. Leave a space and (D20 Modern Creature) after the name, and then press "Create New Creature". It will take you to a page with a pre-load designed for creatures in the d20M universe (I don't know if that is the same as d20M Apocalypse, is it?). Like I said, I don't know anything about the d20M system, so I can't help you write your creature and balance it, but if you need help with tables or other wiki formatting, leave a message on my talk page. One last thing, don't forget to sign your posts by typing <nowiki> --~~~~ </nowiki>. --[[User:Badger|Badger]] 13:44, 21 January 2011 (MST)<br />
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::Thanks! and its pretty much the same as other systems. and i guess i ment that i needed tables for things like different sizes and their modifiers and things like that --[[User:Ozzy1234567890|Ozzy1234567890]] 10:54, 24 January 2011 (MST)<br />
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== April 1 ==<br />
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Is there going to be another [[:Category:April Fools|April Fools]] thing this year? -[[User:Ozzy1234567890|Ozzy1234567890]] 08:15, 28 March 2011 (MDT)<br />
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:Well I'm going to add April Fool stuff. I don't know about other people though. --[[User:Milo v3|Milo High-Hill]] 15:26, 28 March 2011 (MDT)<br />
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::If you're looking for ideas, try updating the random hooker table from the [[Dungeon Master's Guide (1e AD&D)|1e DMG]]. —[[User:Sledged|Sledged]] ([[User talk:Sledged|talk]]) 16:08, 28 March 2011 (MDT)<br />
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:::I've added the Chew'd Button and I'm going add Summon Potato this after noon.--[[User:Milo v3|Milo High-Hill]] 21:23, 31 March 2011 (MDT)<br />
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== Sheild Bash? ==<br />
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Hello ive been playing DnD 3.5 for a while now and I have a question a heavy sheild with spikes does 1d8 damage now when i enchanted it with "Bashing" my friends told me it now does 3d6 on a shield bash is this correct? {{unsigned|Grunt|2011-04-12 16:36}}<br />
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: Not quite. A [[SRD:Heavy Shield#Enhancements|spiked heavy shield]] does 1d6, not 1d8. According to the 3.5 FAQ, the bashing quality stacks with a spiked shield which raises the damage to 2d6. —[[User:Sledged|Sledged]] ([[User talk:Sledged|talk]]) 17:22, 12 April 2011 (MDT)<br />
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== Prototype... Class? Template? Race? Can someone help? ==<br />
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Hello in my groups recent dnd sessions we decided to try for an OP campaign as in epic class's templates and races based off of movies, books, games, etc... so if anyone has ever played the game ''Prototype'' and know about "Alex Mercer" and his "powers" then you would know what kind of chacacter I want for our OP Campaign. unfortionatly I dont know anything about making class's/Races/templates. So i was wondering if somebody could either make one for me or help me with making it. It would be very much appreciated.<br />
DND 3.5 PLEASE!<br />
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::The best person to ask, I believe, is [[User:Badger|Badger]]. --[[User:Ozzy1234567890|Ozzy1234567890]] 09:25, 16 April 2011 (MDT)<br />
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== Campaign Setting Help ==<br />
:''Discussion moved to [[User talk:Ohgren#I have a question]].'' <small>--[[User:Badger|Badger]] 00:31, 17 May 2011 (MDT)</small><br />
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== Have an Idea ==<br />
:''Discussion moved to [[Discussion:Half-Demon_Combinations]].'' <small>--[[User:Badger|Badger]] 19:48, 14 June 2011 (MDT)</small><br />
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== Weapon Enhancement Formula appears to be inconsistent ==<br />
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:''Discussion moved to [[SRD Talk:Magic Items#Weapon Enhancement Formula appears to be inconsistent]].'' <small>—[[User:Sledged|Sledged]] ([[User talk:Sledged|talk]]) 17:26, 18 July 2011 (MDT)</small><br />
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== Site nominated for an Award ==<br />
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Just thought I would let you guys know: D&D Wiki has been nominated for an OGGIE. The OGGIEs are the industry awards thereby. Nowhere near as big as the ENnies or Origin awards, the OGGIEs reflect the games, people, and tools that our members appreciate. {{User:Hooper/autosig2}} 18:52, 14 August 2011 (MDT)<br />
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:Unfortunately this may not be accepted at this time. See also [[Talk:DnD Links#Lifestyles]]. I hope for a difference next year (or next award period). --[[User:Green Dragon|Green Dragon]] 21:40, 15 August 2011 (MDT)<br />
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::I don't follow GD. This isn't a site, simply an award. One of the sites mentioned is that link is also up for it, but its not a link or anything. If you prefer to not accept the nomination, we can revert to one of the other nominees that had lesser votes. Not really sure what you mean by the above statement. {{User:Hooper/autosig2}} 22:08, 15 August 2011 (MDT)<br />
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:::I mean that the link is not acceptable at the moment because of licensing problems. As soon as it is this may be mentioned here. --[[User:Green Dragon|Green Dragon]] 22:11, 15 August 2011 (MDT)<br />
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::::Wait, are you telling me we are refusing an award because the O.G.R.E. website uses a license that we don't? --[[User:Badger|Badger]] 00:20, 16 August 2011 (MDT)<br />
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:::::What link? {{User:Hooper/autosig2}} 06:10, 16 August 2011 (MDT)<br />
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::::::No. Because they have [[:Category:Valgora Setting]] content licensed incorrectly. It is actually licensed under the GNU FDL v1.2. Were that to be changed then it would be no problem. --[[User:Green Dragon|Green Dragon]] 12:15, 16 August 2011 (MDT)<br />
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:::::::Although that is wholly incorrect in regards to how licensing works when the original author publishes , its not what I'm asking. What link? Being nominated for an award has not resulted in a single link off site. So again, what link? <br />
:::::::Anyways, in the interest of not rearguing an argument you've already lost that has no bearing, if you're uncomfortable let me know and well invalidate the nomination and let the next site in line receive it. (Didn't mean for that to sound rude, dang text based conversations. I just have no interest in revisiting the license discussion, especially when I see no connection) {{User:Hooper/autosig2}} 13:55, 16 August 2011 (MDT)<br />
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::::::::Well, Hooper, I'm willing to bet that the O.G.R.E.s aren't going to re-license their own material to make GD happy, so we're at an impasse here. I understand that our nomination for this award has no external links related to it at all, but apparently GD doesn't. On a personal note, totally unofficial in every way, thanks for the nomination. --[[User:Badger|Badger]] 15:12, 16 August 2011 (MDT)<br />
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:::::::::It wasn't me actually. Since I was the contact point for members I abstained from nominating myself. We had about 300 unique nominators, and expect about 3k unique voters. I was really happy to see this site on the list. Well, maybe next year. {{User:Hooper/autosig2}} 15:22, 16 August 2011 (MDT)<br />
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::::::::::I find myself rather disappointed with this response. I am aligned with Hooper and Badger on all regards. [[User:Jwguy|Jwguy]] 09:19, 18 August 2011 (MDT)<br />
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:::::::::::The problem stems from that D&D Wiki is then considering itself irrelevant or subservient. Both these would rather be avoided if they are actually otherwise so. --[[User:Green Dragon|Green Dragon]] 21:36, 18 August 2011 (MDT)<br />
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::::::::::::Anyone have a clue as to what Green Dragon's on about? Really, "considering itself irrelevant or subservient"? To ''what'', exactly? --[[Special:Contributions/173.245.56.158|173.245.56.158]] 01:59, 19 August 2011 (MDT)<br />
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:::::::::::::I am somewhat confused by this explanation. I am going to quote definitions to help spell out why, no offense intended. <br />
:::::::::::::"The Problem stems from that D&D Wiki is then considering itself 'irreverent' (an adjective used to describe something that is disrespectful, sarcastic, and/or lacking in overall seriousness.) or 'subservient' (an adjective used to describe something that is useful in an inferior capacity or is compliantly submissive)."<br />
:::::::::::::Are you attempting to say that accepting an award that praises the site for it's content (I presume this is what the reward is for, honestly) indicates either of these things? If anything, it appears to mean the opposite of the first definition, as we're being recognized for honors, and the second is unlikely, since, again, we're being recognized for honors, not complying to their whims or submitting to superiority. Another thing is I don't see how this deals with the licensing problem, above, which I find myself agreeing with Hooper, on that note, having read over a large amount of licensing information due to links to past discussions. [[User:Jwguy|Jwguy]] 12:11, 19 August 2011 (MDT)<br />
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:Sorry I meant "irrelevant". I spelled it wrong initially and in Firefox the first spellcheck result turned up with "irreverent".<br />
:"Considering itself irrelevant or subservient" to its own functions was meant.<br />
:Not accepting anything, ''linking'' to a site out of respect which does considers D&D Wiki's functions irrelevant and subversive (through the link) makes D&D Wiki then consider itself also so (or recognize such a consideration). This is what I am talking about. --[[User:Green Dragon|Green Dragon]] 23:07, 19 August 2011 (MDT)<br />
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::Except that reason makes not a lick of sense and gives the impression that you do not understand the facts. Did you somehow got the Oggies confused with...what, the Internet Razzies? Is it Opposite Week? As near as I can tell, OGRE is a roleplaying organization which wishes to acknowledge the D&D wiki as a fine D&D resource upon the Internet. '''They nominated the wiki for an award'''. One would think you would at least crack a smile over the fact that at least a few people in an unaffiliated group nominated the wiki for one of their awards and allow the nomination to be acknowledged and claim the prize if you get it. By the way, Hooper, which award was it? [[Special:Contributions/173.245.56.158|173.245.56.158]] 00:22, 20 August 2011 (MDT)<br />
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:::I'd link to it, but......... Its "Website of the Year." Other contestants include a project funding platform site, a community game development & playtest site, an RPG advocacy site, etc. {{User:Hooper/autosig2}} 09:57, 20 August 2011 (MDT)<br />
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::::Green Dragon, your previous comments can barely be considered English. I'm having a hard time understanding you. Are you suggesting that OGRE, through its licensing, is acting as though we exist to serve them? That is perhaps one of the silliest things I've ever heard on this wiki, and I've been part of some incredibly asinine discussions here. --[[User:Badger|Badger]] 10:55, 20 August 2011 (MDT)<br />
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:::::Were they to license the content under the GNU FDL v1.2 appropriately (comparable to OGC; if it is allowed) it would be different. However implying that D&D Wiki's functions are nonexistent or irrelevant to others' functions is, by definition, an irrelevant or subservient consideration. --[[User:Green Dragon|Green Dragon]] 12:01, 20 August 2011 (MDT)<br />
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::::::What content or license? The award is not a license, its simply an award. The winners will be given fair use to display the appropriate award. That's the only license at all related to this. GD, everyone is having a very hard time understanding you. We're not trying to be rude, it just seems like you're making no sense.The award is simply an acknowledgement of appreciation, it has no other effect. To say an acknowledgements somehow equals irrelevance is hard to follow. {{User:Hooper/autosig2}} 12:10, 20 August 2011 (MDT)<br />
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:::::::The mixing, picking, and matching going on here I cannot understand. A is to A as A is to A. See also [[Talk:DnD Links#Lifestyles]] for more information about the problem. --[[User:Green Dragon|Green Dragon]] 13:54, 20 August 2011 (MDT)<br />
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::::::::Umm, what? I don't know if this is the worse, or best, conversation ever. {{User:Hooper/autosig2}} 15:06, 20 August 2011 (MDT)<br />
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:::::::::Hooper, this is the exact same problem that we had with the other wiki. Content licensing and re-licensing. Green Dragon has one understanding of the law, and some people (a number that appears to include everyone else in the world) has a different understanding. This time, OGRE has licensed the Valgora setting under CC-BY-SA, and we have it under GNU FDL v1.2. Because these aren't the same license, GD feels (and correct me if I'm wrong) that we are being slighted/ignored/other bad things. Because of that, we here at D&Dwiki will pretend that they don't exist, until they begin to comply with GD's understanding of the law. It seems foolish for us to ask you to re-license your material under GNU FDL v1.2 (considering it is an out-dated license anyway), so I won't even bother asking you to consider it. And, to answer your last comment, having been in my fair share of conversations, I'm going to say this is neither the best or the worst. However, his last comment might go down in history alongside a few other gems of what I call EnGDlish. --[[User:Badger|Badger]] 17:35, 20 August 2011 (MDT)<br />
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::::::::::<cite>Were they to license the content under the GNU FDL v1.2 appropriately (comparable to OGC; if it is allowed) it would be different. <b>However implying that D&D Wiki's functions are nonexistent or irrelevant to others' functions is, by definition, an irrelevant or subservient consideration. --Green Dragon</b></cite><br />
::::::::::Green Dragon, I will presume this is your main and only prominent standing argument against accepting the award. I provide the following rebuttal: First, I wish to know, by link and explanation, preferably, when, where, and how O.G.R.E. has implied this, or that the award has implied this; These are the only subjects that would be considered relevant to your argument, on the subject at hand, as these appear to be the only subjects concerning our site, here. Second, the emboldened text is a bit of stretch, on your part: While you are incorrect regarding the 'by definition' part, since considering ''anything'' irrelevant or non-existent does not match the definition of subservient (I posted it earlier), and irrelevance references itself in irrelevant, I fail to see why this matters? The key point of '''Irrelevant''', by definition, is that there is no connection, no relation, unimportant in circumstance or consideration, etc., and therefore, the idea that the site uses a different, but entirely legal, correct, and appropriate license, is inconsequential to D&D Wiki in every way, since the two sites are not related. All that matters is the legality of each item, viewed separately from each site, on the level that we are, now. There is no conflict or relation. Because of these reasons, I fail to see why you argue this point, or how you believe this award is unacceptable. There is no subservience, at all, and there is no irrelevance in accepting the award (We accept the award based on the fact that it is award to our site, for our content, and is therefore relevant to the site), and the site is irrelevant in every other manner (licensing, members, etc.). [[User:Jwguy|Jwguy]] 10:58, 21 August 2011 (MDT)<br />
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::::::::::::{{Warning/Text}} It also appears that he specifically checks the license a particular thing is under. {{Warning/Text}} [[Special:Contributions/173.245.56.158|173.245.56.158]] 11:47, 21 August 2011 (MDT)<br />
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:::::::::::::''(a number that appears to include everyone else in the world)'' does not include people who need to care. People with authoritative knowledge on this subject has reaffirmed what I have been saying. This is just one of those "internet postings myths" that people seem to cling to. Humans are varied.<br />
:::::::::::::With my terminology I was just putting an opinion onto the subject. The fact comes from [[DnD Links]] (top text). This answers many of the questions about this subject.<br />
:::::::::::::''(considering it is an out-dated license anyway)'' does not include the fact that new MW installs still list it as a possibility. Whatever outdated means as well. --[[User:Green Dragon|Green Dragon]] 17:21, 21 August 2011 (MDT)<br />
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:Regardless of my unattended argument, I decided to do some research on my own. Google is great, praise it. I came up with a simple solution. Why don't we just upgrade our license to GNU FDL 1.3? It is a more up-to-date version of our current license, and 'lo and behold, it manages to get rid of the whole compability problem with CC-BY-SA. At this point, clinging to 1.2, an obsolete version of the license, only generates more problems and needless strife. This option allows us to not bicker over this obviously controversial issue (Of which I must comment, Green Dragon, that sometimes your replies are hard to understand and do not address presented issues, and can exacerbate that), an issue which has apparently been active for a good long time before this one, according to the many links that we've been presented.<br />
:To summarize, every bit of this can be avoid by simply upgrading to the new GNU Free Documentation License 1.3, which <i>does</i> allow usage under CC-BY-SA. No-one loses face, no-one argues about vague legalese, and we have a happy wiki. [[User:Jwguy|Jwguy]] 00:28, 22 August 2011 (MDT)<br />
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::That was mentioned during our last debate. Nothing came of it. Not sure why, as it does solve all our problems. I think it has something to do with we aren't legally allowed to update our license, if I recall correctly. --[[User:Badger|Badger]] 18:51, 22 August 2011 (MDT)<br />
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:::We could upgrade. Why? What is wrong with the GNU FDL v1.2? It is still offered on new MW installs. Is it because of a fear complex that we should? This is the only reason I can devise from such an idea, and one I would not like to pursue. --[[User:Green Dragon|Green Dragon]] 23:44, 23 August 2011 (MDT)<br />
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::::Why upgrade? Here is a page that explains the changes, and why we should consider it: [http://www.gnu.org/licenses/fdl-1.3-faq.html] Basically, it says "We can play nicely with people who use different licenses". I see no reason why we shouldn't extend a metaphorical olive branch and say "You play D&D. I play D&D. Let's be friendly." --[[User:Badger|Badger]] 18:59, 24 August 2011 (MDT)<br />
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:::::Still, why? What is wrong with the GNU FDL v1.2? I have no idea why Wikipedia did what it did. The current license does not have any holes or flaws that I can think of, and creating an environment for licensing is ingrained in any case, so why create cross-dependency? Making things simpler is always better then more complex, and a cross-dependency is more complex for everyone. We allow CC-BY-NC-SA content (see also [[Template:Cc-by-nc-sa]]). That is the current method&ndash; why a cross-dependency? --[[User:Green Dragon|Green Dragon]] 18:46, 25 August 2011 (MDT)<br />
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::::::How many novel-length debates do we need to have before you acknowledge that a large portion of the user base isn't satisfied with the current licensing arrangement? Sure, there may not be anything inherently ''wrong'' with v1.2, but v1.3 is ''specifically designed for wiki projects''. Also, there would be no "cross-dependency". Literally nothing would change, except for where we can link. It wouldn't be more complex. In fact, most people wouldn't notice a change, and those that do would notice an improvement, not a more complicated system! Did you get a chance to ask the GNU FDL people about allowing multiple licences of the same content yet? --[[User:Badger|Badger]] 12:42, 26 August 2011 (MDT)<br />
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:::::::Who actually cares about the current licensing situation, save a few (I can only list a few users) who care about making an annoying situation about a myth every time they can? It gets on my nerves, and it wastes my time. Maybe we can put a policy in about redundant discussions. The question remains: What is wrong with CC-BY-NC-SA content (see also [[Template:Cc-by-nc-sa]])? --[[User:Green Dragon|Green Dragon]] 13:45, 26 August 2011 (MDT)<br />
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::::::::Nothing, Green Dragon. Nothing is wrong with CC-BY-NC-SA content. Here's what I don't get, though. You know at least a handful of people who don't like the current situation. Fixing their problem would be as simple as a half dozen edits, and no more than 15 minutes of your time. The question remains: If this is a recurring problem for you, why not address it, rather than make a policy that forces us to ignore it? --[[User:Badger|Badger]] 14:08, 26 August 2011 (MDT)<br />
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:::::::::I imagine the flip side would get on many people's nerves. I know having multiple licenses (which is variable itself) and having them dependent on one another would be annoying for me. And when I say "''annoying situation''" I mean that users may be creating it for a number of reasons. I am not a psychiatrist, however I understand that people may be annoying for annoying's sake, have a reason behind it (hidden or not), or feel feelings about the situation. These, however, are not policy reasons. We are not in charge or anything really (D&D is D&D) except for how D&D Wiki's policies play out for it's users. Where a president may act on feelings (for example) there is no reason for us to. It accomplishes nothing. We must act on creating an environment where users understand their contributions (for the most part) and are okay with them. I find that creating multiple license dependency (where two separate licenses work just fine) does harm to our actions as administrators. --[[User:Green Dragon|Green Dragon]] 17:30, 26 August 2011 (MDT)<br />
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::::::::::I'm not sure I understand most of what you've written there, but I think I got the gist of it. However, if we ''update'' to v1.3 of the GNU FDL we won't have to worry about multiple licenses. It would also allow us to "play nicely" with people who use CC-BY-SA, though ''we don't have to use it on our site''. Like I said, nothing would change in the eyes of 99% of the userbase. --[[User:Badger|Badger]] 19:09, 26 August 2011 (MDT)<br />
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:::::::::::Wikipedia is now dual licensed (or something like that), and we already have a solution for this (see also [[Template:Cc-by-nc-sa]]) so I do not see a reason at all. --[[User:Green Dragon|Green Dragon]] 19:38, 26 August 2011 (MDT)<br />
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::::::::::::I think you may be taking the issue in the wrong direction, Green Dragon. It's been stated multiple times: The argument lies in the fact that either you, or D&D Wiki's license policies, depending on who wants to direct blame at which party, have caused this confrontation regarding O.G.R.E.S.; I don't believe anyone here in the opposition has a problem with CC-BY-SA. Quite the opposite, it appears that you believe GNU FDL 1.2 conflicts with the idea derivative works that take up the license or different licenses, and while possibly justified (We've heard many arguments on each side of this), this is just making things complicated and frustrating.<br />
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::::::::::::GNU FDL 1.2 was obsolete the moment 1.3 was released. This issue, and similar issues regarding license conflict, has divided the user-base of this wiki for far too long, and if that is not reason enough, then add in the factor that this allows us to accept wonderful awards and cooperate with other wikis, instead of reverting to another one of these large, drawn out arguments, and achieving nothing. Don't speak for the unspoken, but listen to those who have come forward to speak for themselves; You'll find that some of your greatest and most active remaining members are here, even if hundreds of numbers stay quiet, whether for or against the issue is unknown. This is not the time to be '''stubborn''', either. If anything, then why not have a vote, and be done with it? [[User:Jwguy|Jwguy]] 08:41, 27 August 2011 (MDT)<br />
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With this much bickering, I'm not sure that we deserve a "best of" anything award. [[User:Jazzman831|Jazz]][[User talk:Jazzman831|Man]] 17:55, 21 August 2011 (MDT)<br />
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:We'd be a shoo-in for "Website with most internal strife", though. Any chance of that being a category next year, Hooper? ''':)''' --[[User:Badger|Badger]] 20:07, 21 August 2011 (MDT)<br />
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::I think its all the ways of making things which are dealt with completely differently on other wikis (like Wikipedia) workable in a wiki environment. Who knew links were going to be selective? I had known for a while that something had to be done. Who knew that blocking was to be used in disjuncture? Who knows. --[[User:Green Dragon|Green Dragon]] 20:17, 21 August 2011 (MDT)<br />
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:::I'm not really sure what that means, but I don't think that's it. [[User:Jazzman831|Jazz]][[User talk:Jazzman831|Man]] 22:35, 21 August 2011 (MDT)<br />
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::::It probably has to do with the administration or something. Who knows. It is all so mysterious. --[[Special:Contributions/173.245.50.26|173.245.50.26]] 14:50, 22 August 2011 (MDT)<br />
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:::::Umm... [[DnD Links]] and [[Warning Policy]] are so...? Read them please. --[[User:Green Dragon|Green Dragon]] 20:10, 22 August 2011 (MDT)<br />
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::::::Are so... what? You can't really blame them for anything, since we can change the policy to be whatever we want. [[User:Jazzman831|Jazz]][[User talk:Jazzman831|Man]] 09:05, 23 August 2011 (MDT)<br />
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:::::::Hooper should win the "making up awards that mean nothing" award. Also the "most [[Discussion:Trust_Issues|chihuahua-like]]" award. Actually, Hooper should make up a million awards and give them to himself; he earned them! Green Dragon, I don't get why you would turn down such a prestigious award. --[[Special:Contributions/173.245.55.206|173.245.55.206]] 19:11, 23 August 2011 (MDT)<br />
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::::::::They can change the policy as well. Policy is done though a wiki. Who says the current method is best? I don't know what they are like to some. Mysterious I guess (as mentioned above). It's the policy turning town the award. --[[User:Green Dragon|Green Dragon]] 21:02, 23 August 2011 (MDT)<br />
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:::::::::Alright then Green Dragon, where should we go to discuss policy changes? Give me a link to a page, or make a discussion page or something, and let's have a policy discussion. --[[User:Badger|Badger]] 21:18, 23 August 2011 (MDT)<br />
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::::::::::[[Help:Talk Pages]] and [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Help:Using_talk_pages Help:Using_talk_pages] should direct you where appropriately. --[[User:Green Dragon|Green Dragon]] 22:25, 23 August 2011 (MDT)<br />
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:::::::::::You're kidding, right? I know how to sign a comment, I want to know where you want to hold a discussion about policy changes. If you give me a link, I'll know you'll know where to join the conversation. We've talked about policy choices in the past, and you've never weighed in, so we accomplish nothing (for example, [[Discussion:Re-opening_the_tavern%3F_What_does_the_community_think%3F|here]]). --[[User:Badger|Badger]] 22:40, 23 August 2011 (MDT)<br />
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::::::::::::Ha, bad troll is bad. Welcome back "totally anonymous" "third party" user! I'm so excited about your opinion! Come back to me with it when you're helping run an awards program for a international non-profit with over 3,000 members across 15 states and three countries! Your posts give me such faith that you'll do it!<br />
::::::::::::Yawn, back to life (back to reality). Only our big categories (i.e. game of year, company of year, lifetime etc.) got tons of member nominations. Our smaller categories like website were based on just a handful (for instance, I have no qualms telling you that D&D Wiki made the last official nominee position with just 7 nominations) - so it really isn't upsetting anything on O.G.R.E.s end to move the next site up in the rank. However, as a longtime site user, speaking not from the O.G.R.E.s side but the D&D Wiki side - it is extremely disappointing that proven false interpretations and misunderstandings of licensing laws have stunted the growth rate of the site ''(though by no means killed it - yet)'', and to now even prevent recognition and appreciation and celebration of the site. Meh. {{User:Hooper/autosig2}} 23:00, 23 August 2011 (MDT)<br />
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:::::::::::::Things which require a technological advancement (not using something we have) are a different matter of course. I mean wiki policy changes.<br />
:::::::::::::Well, you can talk to people with authoritative knowledge about the licensing problems. We are not rejecting the award by no means, we are just not allowing it mentioned here (for the time being at least). How a site does something to D&D Wiki is not D&D Wiki's concern. --[[User:Green Dragon|Green Dragon]] 23:41, 23 August 2011 (MDT)<br />
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:I can't find out how to contact "people with authoritative knowledge about licensing problems". Tell you what, can you just email them and ask them a simple question "is it legal to license the same content under multiple licenses, specifically GNU FDL v1.2 and CC-BY-SA?" Just that, that exact question. If they respond with "Yes" I hope you'll understand what we've all been saying this whole time. --[[User:Badger|Badger]] 23:59, 23 August 2011 (MDT)<br />
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::Wait, wait, wait! We have a policy against receiving awards? Where is that one? [[User:Jazzman831|Jazz]][[User talk:Jazzman831|Man]] 09:31, 25 August 2011 (MDT)<br />
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:::We don't have a policy that says we can't take awards in general. We do, however, seem to have a policy that requires us to turn down this one. Personally, I'd rather lose out on an award because we suck, rather than because of licensing misunderstandings. --[[User:Badger|Badger]] 10:21, 25 August 2011 (MDT)<br />
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::::So, GD - let me make sure I understand what you've said. You're okay being on the list, for possible voting - just not with making any back links (which we're not asking for). Is that correct? Just let me know before the 1st, when voting starts. {{User:Hooper/autosig2}} 16:45, 25 August 2011 (MDT)<br />
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:::::Everything is fine except that we may not give such a [[DnD Links|link]]. We could if (well, when) the licensing problems are resolved. --[[User:Green Dragon|Green Dragon]] 18:46, 25 August 2011 (MDT)<br />
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::::::Where is ''that'' policy? The only thing on [[DnD Links]] is a link to [[Meta_Pages#Policies]], which, I don't think, says anything about (a) awards, (b) links to other sites, (c) copyright licensing, or (d) compatibility thereof. Unless I'm just missing it somewhere. [[User:Jazzman831|Jazz]][[User talk:Jazzman831|Man]] 20:50, 25 August 2011 (MDT)<br />
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:::::::It's the "''As per [[Meta Pages#Policies|policy]] the following external links are the only ones that may be referenced. However the external link reference does not have to be in the same format as the following external links.''" --[[User:Green Dragon|Green Dragon]] 20:56, 25 August 2011 (MDT)<br />
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::::::::So all we have to do to be able to add links to the OGRE site is to add links to the OGRE Site on DnD Links. There isn't a policy that says how we add links to DnD Links, though, so there's nothing stopping us from adding OGRES to DnD Links, then to this page, thus letting us accept the award. (None of this is actually referenced on the policies page it's linked to.) [[User:Jazzman831|Jazz]][[User talk:Jazzman831|Man]] 22:29, 25 August 2011 (MDT)<br />
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:::::::::O.G.R.E.s doesn't want or need a link, though. Our site is for members or potential members, and we don't link whore. That isn't what our awards program is for either (its just one of many things we do). So, we don't require a back link at all. So, with that in mind, I guess GD is saying that the site can accept the award but never mention it outside talk pages, because we also host some of our Valgora stuff (which we have full legal right to do so...). Additionally, I don't think it's appropriate for O.G.R.E.s to be linked to from the Links site, because we're not a solely D&D or such club - we are very vocal about our All Tabletop Games/Systems/Companies/Setting/Etc. philosophy. So the average D&D Wiki browser probably isn't our core audience, though a RPGA link or Pathfinder Society link may be appropriate.<br />
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:::::::::Anyways, back on topic - I suppose we'll leave that site on the vote. I don't know how, or if, GD wants to showcase a win if the site does get a gold or silver ''(possibly a userbox style code without a link just the info?)'', but that isn't my concern when I'm the me-who-works-for-OGREs. But as the me-who-is-a-site-member, it is. {{User:Hooper/autosig2}} 23:10, 25 August 2011 (MDT)<br />
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:::::::::::Yes, Jazzman, all we have to do to allow the link is to add O.G.R.E to DnD_Links. However, GD has said we cannot add it to DnD_Links because of some licensing problem (be it real or imaginary). Personally, I'm all for following the first policy we have listed under policies: {{quote<br />
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::::::::::::Oh, it's fine to host [[:Category:Valgora Setting|valgora]] content. It just must be licensed as it is. The [[DnD Links|link]] or no link discussion is for [[Talk:DnD Links]] (MW?). I am not for the policy mentioned above since it undermines D&D Wiki. That's insulting. --[[User:Green Dragon|Green Dragon]] 13:45, 26 August 2011 (MDT)<br />
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:::::::::::::How does doing something to improve or maintain D&D Wiki undermine it? Does it undermine some of the past decisions you've unilaterally set forth? Perhaps, but it doesn't undermine the wiki. --[[User:Badger|Badger]] 14:08, 26 August 2011 (MDT)<br />
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:Considering that Valgora originated on CBGwiki, which allows derivative copies under similar license - and that the OGREs hosted version came from there - this is a moot point. So its twice moot. Short story: lets keep with the times and update the license. Community vote first if you'd prefer. {{User:Hooper/autosig2}} 17:08, 26 August 2011 (MDT)<br />
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::The contributions date still point here. Thanks for the information though, I guess the same is with them. --[[User:Green Dragon|Green Dragon]] 17:30, 26 August 2011 (MDT)<br />
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:::I've missed a couple points here, so I'm going to backtrack the discussion a bit. Firstly, if I can reiterate the "policy" issues, I see no reason why we can't link to OGRES. Here's the chain or logic:<br />
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::::#You can only link to a site elsewhere on the wiki if it is first placed on DnD Links<br />
::::#You can only place a link on DnD links if it follows the general policies of the website<br />
::::#OGRES is not against any general policies of the website<br />
::::#Therefore you may add it to DnD links, per (2)<br />
::::#Therefore you may link to the site elsewhere per (1)<br />
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::::Is there a flaw in my logic? If so, with what step, what is the flaw, and where is the policy posted?<br />
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::::On the topic of "undermining": if you read the full context of the text Badger quoted, you will see that the whole reason it is there is because we are too lazy to create our own rules, and instead link to Wikipedia. The effect of this is, we use Wikipedia's rules, except in cases where their rules are incompatible with our purpose. For example [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:OR WP:OR] does not apply to custom content created on this wiki. It does not undermine D&D Wiki, but it does leave us with a problem: who gets to decide when we are better off ignoring a given rule? [[User:Jazzman831|Jazz]][[User talk:Jazzman831|Man]] 18:12, 26 August 2011 (MDT)<br />
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:::::"''You can only place a link on DnD links if it follows the general policies of the website''"; which it does not. This is a discussion for [[DnD Links|links]].<br />
:::::None of this is determined by Wikipedia however. --[[User:Green Dragon|Green Dragon]] 18:32, 26 August 2011 (MDT)<br />
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::::::Which policy? Can you please point to it? I'd argue that while this may also apply to DnD links, I'm ultimately discussing the award, not whether or not we can link. [[User:Jazzman831|Jazz]][[User talk:Jazzman831|Man]] 18:42, 26 August 2011 (MDT)<br />
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:::::::Rudeness: belittling; other uncivil behaviors: lying to the appropriate entity (D&D Wiki). --[[User:Green Dragon|Green Dragon]] 19:17, 26 August 2011 (MDT)<br />
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::::::::You didn't link to it, so I can only assume you are talking about the [[Warning Policy]]. Regardless of whether or not the website is doing those things (and I'll go out and say that they aren't), that policy applies to editors, not links. It's at best a huge stretch and at worst a gross misinterpretation to apply the warning policy to external websites. Unless you were talking about something else? I'll admit I have trouble navigating the policies. [[User:Jazzman831|Jazz]][[User talk:Jazzman831|Man]] 19:37, 26 August 2011 (MDT)<br />
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:::::::::No, actually I was not. The [[Warning Policy]] has bases, however those bases are not exclusive. --[[User:Green Dragon|Green Dragon]] 20:15, 26 August 2011 (MDT)<br />
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::::::::::Considering O.G.R.E.s has never contacted you ''(this message about the award I posted as a long time user here being the most official contact - ever)'', to say rudeness, belittling, or lying has been done is extremely uncivil on your part, GD. {{User:Hooper/autosig2}} 08:33, 27 August 2011 (MDT)<br />
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:::::::::::Not to be too confrontational, but this really seems to indicate that you may have a personal experience with this site or it's users that could potentially influence your opinion. Honestly, I feel it would explain a lot, especially since you appear to oppose and reject even feasible solutions that don't challenge the definitions of the license we currently use, such as upgrading to the new, improved, and problem-solving v1.3.<br />
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:::::::::::Back on topic, could you please be specific? Which policies does the award, or even O.G.R.E.S. violate, and please link or explain this, in detail. I cannot speak from the same position has Hooper regarding what O.G.R.E.S. has done in the past, as I lack the same status as a member, but I find that being vague is not going to help these matters. [[User:Jwguy|Jwguy]] 08:57, 27 August 2011 (MDT)<br />
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::::::::::::I'd love to know as well. But it is my understanding that GD simply believes that hosting [[:Category:Valgora Setting]] content on O.G.R.E.s wiki violated the licensing agreement for Valgora on this wiki ''(an argument proven wrong at [[Talk:GNU Free Documentation License 1.3#Updating]].'' With that in mind though, let's keep all licensing conversations there, to make this easier to follow and contribute to for all users. {{User:Hooper/autosig2}} 09:04, 27 August 2011 (MDT)<br />
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:::::::::::::Even if that were the case, there's no policy keeping us from linking to a site with an incompatible license. Likewise, there's no policy keeping us from linking to a site that is rude or belittles us. GD, you stated that linking to O.G.R.E.s does not follow the general policy of this website. Can you please ''link'' to the policy we would be violating? If it's not Warning Policy, I just don't know what it is. [[User:Jazzman831|Jazz]][[User talk:Jazzman831|Man]] 09:10, 27 August 2011 (MDT)<br />
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:It cannot be [[Warning Policy]] ("''When one does not edit''" just doesn't apply). I said it once and I'll say it again "''Rudeness: belittling; other uncivil behaviors: lying to the appropriate entity (D&D Wiki).''" If the grammar is the problem, look up what each word means and then work the sentence out. --[[User:Green Dragon|Green Dragon]] 11:49, 28 August 2011 (MDT)<br />
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::''I've'' said it before, and ''I'll'' say it again: show me a link. I know very well what those words mean, I just don't know where you're coming up with them. If it's policy, it's on this website somewhere. If it's not on this website (or within Wikipedia's policies, though I don't think they have any that apply in this instance because they have significantly looser requirements to posting outside links), then it's not policy. [[User:Jazzman831|Jazz]][[User talk:Jazzman831|Man]] 13:12, 28 August 2011 (MDT)<br />
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:::If you care look into it. I'm not going to do something which is so easily done it hurts me to do it. There is an answer to this. --[[User:Green Dragon|Green Dragon]] 13:52, 28 August 2011 (MDT)<br />
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::::I have to admit, that comment makes me feel a little belittled. That being said, I can't find the policy which says we can't link to sites that are rude, belittling, uncivil, or lie to us. And neither could [http://search.yahoo.com/search;_ylt=A0oG7hhEn1pOvkQA9wZXNyoA;_ylc=X1MDUCMyNzY2Njc5BF9yAzIEYW8DMARjc3JjcHZpZANXM0tYeGtvRzd2N1hhMDNMVGtLZW5nQXdybVdmRFU1YW4wUUFDdEo3BGZyA3lmcC10LTcwMQRmcjIDc2J0bgRuX2dwcwMwBG9yaWdpbgNzcnAEcXVlcnkDc2l0ZTpkYW5kd2lraS5jb20gInJ1ZGVuZXNzOyBiZWxpdHRsaW5nIgRzYW8DMQR2dGVzdGlkA1NNRTAzNg--?p=site%3Adandwiki.com+%22rudeness%3B+belittling%22&fr2=sb-top&fr=yfp-t-701&type_param=&rd=pref Yahoo!] [http://search.yahoo.com/search;_ylt=A0oG7kz9oFpOLF8AnPxXNyoA;_ylc=X1MDUCMyNzY2Njc5BF9yAzIEYW8DMARjc3JjcHZpZANaNm1MY1VvRzd2N1hhMDNMVGtLZW5nZG1ybVdmRFU1YW9QMEFBNmJOBGZyA3lmcC10LTcwMQRmcjIDc2J0bgRuX2dwcwMwBG9yaWdpbgNzcnAEcXVlcnkDc2l0ZTpkYW5kd2lraS5jb20gImx5aW5nIHRvIHRoZSBhcHByb3ByaWF0ZSBlbnRpdHkiBHNhbwMxBHZ0ZXN0aWQDU01FMDM2?p=site%3Adandwiki.com+%22lying+to+the+appropriate+entity%22&fr2=sb-top&fr=yfp-t-701&type_param=&rd=pref] [[User:Jazzman831|Jazz]][[User talk:Jazzman831|Man]] 14:20, 28 August 2011 (MDT)<br />
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:::::"''When one does not edit''" is a play on words. Websites do not edit, therefore they are treated like a normal Wikipedia user (which does not have a [[Warning Policy]]). They must fix the problem or get banned. --[[User:Green Dragon|Green Dragon]] 20:44, 30 August 2011 (MDT)<br />
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::::::As much as I love wordplay, official policy should not include puns. In the future, please be more clear about what you mean. We were all confused for some time by your wording. --[[User:Badger|Badger]] 20:46, 30 August 2011 (MDT)<br />
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:::::::I'm not really sure this violates any WikiP policies, either. If you treat a website like a "user", then "banning" said "user" would mean not allowing him to edit. OGREs isn't editing D&D Wiki, we are. [[User:Jazzman831|Jazz]][[User talk:Jazzman831|Man]] 13:34, 31 August 2011 (MDT)<br />
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::::::::Though it seems pointless, voting is open. Figure out the link if you wish. The site is currently way behind in it's category, however. {{User:Hooper/autosig2}} 13:41, 4 September 2011 (MDT)<br />
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== Digital D&D Books ==<br />
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a digital copy of one of the books with [OEF] or [OCR] at the end means what? they are pdf files and im not sure what it stands for --[[User:Ozzy1234567890|Ozzy1234567890]] 09:19, 10 October 2011 (MDT)</div>Ozzy1234567890https://www.dandwiki.com/w/index.php?title=Talk:Master_of_the_Twin_Paths_(3.5e_Prestige_Class)&diff=534135Talk:Master of the Twin Paths (3.5e Prestige Class)2011-09-05T17:05:14Z<p>Ozzy1234567890: </p>
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<div>Shouldnt it say "Epic Master of the Twin Paths" rather than "Epic Arcane Savant"? --[[User:Ozzy1234567890|Ozzy1234567890]] 11:05, 5 September 2011 (MDT)</div>Ozzy1234567890https://www.dandwiki.com/w/index.php?title=Talk:Master_of_the_Twin_Paths_(3.5e_Prestige_Class)&diff=534134Talk:Master of the Twin Paths (3.5e Prestige Class)2011-09-05T17:04:12Z<p>Ozzy1234567890: Created page with "Shouldnt it say "Epic Master of the Twin Paths" rather than "Epic Arcane Savant"? ~~"</p>
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<div>Shouldnt it say "Epic Master of the Twin Paths" rather than "Epic Arcane Savant"? ~~</div>Ozzy1234567890https://www.dandwiki.com/w/index.php?title=Talk:Main_Page&diff=514397Talk:Main Page2011-04-16T15:25:53Z<p>Ozzy1234567890: /* Prototype... Class? Template? Race? Can someone help? */</p>
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== Anti Wiki Criticism ==<br />
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This is the most useful Wiki I have ever found on D&D, (and I've seen a LOT of on-line references). I am currently running an adventure and I keep this site open on my lap-top as I play. It saves me a great deal of time and speeds up play considerably. I almost never even open my Monster Manual anymore.<br />
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Kudos to the WebMaster. --[[User:Gildavinor|Gildavinor]] 18:13, 25 September 2009 (MDT)<br />
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:I agree very strongly with you, Gild! Though I didn't sign in very often previously, I absolutely adore this Wiki. It's the pinnacle of Dungeons and Dragons research and innovation. --[[User:Harry Mason|Harry Mason]] 18:42, 25 September 2009 (MDT)<br />
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::Taking sides in any instance is a bad idea... Neutrality is a great observational instrument if one is not affiliated therein. --[[User:Green Dragon|Green Dragon]] 21:51, 25 September 2009 (MDT)<br />
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:::Totally agree. --[[User:Lord Mattos|Lord Mattos]] 11:14, 29 November 2009 (MST)<br />
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== Two Millionth View! ==<br />
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Looks like today was [[Special:Statistics|the day]] folks! 2 million views on the main page! &nbsp;<small><span style="border: 1px solid black; -moz-border-radius:10px">[[User:Hooper|'''<span style="background-color:White; color:Black; -moz-border-radius-topleft:10px; -moz-border-radius-bottomleft:10px"> Hooper </span>''']][[User talk:Hooper|<span style="background-color:Black; color:white; -moz-border-radius-bottomleft:10px; -moz-border-radius-topleft:10px">&nbsp;&nbsp;talk&nbsp;&nbsp;</span>]][[Special:Contributions/Hooper|<span style="background-color:black; color:white">&nbsp;&nbsp;contribs&nbsp;&nbsp;</span>]][[Special:Emailuser/Hooper|<span style="background-color:black; color:white; -moz-border-radius-bottomright:10px; -moz-border-radius-topright:10px">&nbsp;&nbsp;email&nbsp;&nbsp;</span>]]</span></small> 12:46, 14 October 2009 (MDT)<br />
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:Yeah, now there are 2,299,388 views (Jan. 13,2010)! Wohoo! --[[User:Io|Io]] 16:52, 13 January 2010<br />
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And now, in the november of 2010, we have 3,080,184 views!<br />
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== Size ==<br />
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how many Megabytes is this whole site? {{Unsigned|216.12.83.73|22:29, 15 November 2009 (MDT)}}<br />
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:Why? --[[User:Green Dragon|Green Dragon]] 23:40, 15 November 2009 (MST)<br />
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::I was thinking of copying the source code so i cant look at it offline--[[User:Lo-Chi|Lt.Dan]] 07:20, 16 November 2009 (MST)<br />
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:::You don't need the size of D&D Wiki as a whole when looking at the source code ("''View Page Source''" for Mozilla Firefox). --[[User:Green Dragon|Green Dragon]] 12:12, 16 November 2009 (MST)<br />
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== The Tavern ==<br />
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After a huge hiatus I'm finally back to D&D Wiki (and happy to return!) following a long period of being almost broke. I notice that the Tavern, which was gone when I first had to go...still isn't back. That was one of my favorite parts of the Wiki, and I hope I'm just being stupid and missing it somewhere. Is it gone for good? --[[User:Harry Mason|Harry Mason]] 07:07, 4 February 2010 (UTC)<br />
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:It actually was discontinued. There is no "official" reason as to now however take a look at [[Discussion:The Tavern: use, expansion, and availability.]]. The main reason is "''...it is quite childish and immature at times and I feel at times it decreases the seriousness of D&D Wiki with childish behavior and immaturity.''" [[User:Green Dragon|Green Dragon]] "Discussion:The Tavern: use, expansion, and availability." 21:02, 20 November 2009 (MST). --[[User:Green Dragon|Green Dragon]] 22:07, 4 February 2010 (UTC)<br />
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::Ah...oh well. That's a little sad to me, but I can see the reasoning behind it, it -was- rather vulgar at times. Thank you for replying. :) --[[User:Harry Mason|Harry Mason]] 01:49, 5 February 2010 (UTC)<br />
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:::I'm coming back too and I too liked the tavern... I agree with the reasoning, but I still think we should have an effective way of conversation, since a wiki is not the best tool for talking...<br>Isn't there something that could be implemented in the place of the tavern (and maybe have some rules as to swearing and misbehaviour, making disrespectful users suspended/banned from using it)?--[[User:ElfsMaster|ElfsMaster]] 10:49, 5 February 2010 (UTC)<br />
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::::But this '''is''' a wiki, and by not having the sidetrack of a chat users may tend to rely more on the already established discussion tool. Or they can leave messages on talk pages of other users. It actually encourages the opening of discussions and talks between users on the wiki - which can lead to more wiki additions and improvements, instead of just idle chatter. &nbsp;<small><span style="border: 1px solid black; -moz-border-radius:10px">[[User:Hooper|'''<span style="background-color:White; color:Black; -moz-border-radius-topleft:10px; -moz-border-radius-bottomleft:10px"> Hooper </span>''']][[User talk:Hooper|<span style="background-color:Black; color:white; -moz-border-radius-bottomleft:10px; -moz-border-radius-topleft:10px">&nbsp;&nbsp;talk&nbsp;&nbsp;</span>]][[Special:Contributions/Hooper|<span style="background-color:black; color:white">&nbsp;&nbsp;contribs&nbsp;&nbsp;</span>]][[Special:Emailuser/Hooper|<span style="background-color:black; color:white; -moz-border-radius-bottomright:10px; -moz-border-radius-topright:10px">&nbsp;&nbsp;email&nbsp;&nbsp;</span>]]</span></small> 14:07, 5 February 2010 (UTC)<br />
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:::::Appealing to people in real time is more effective than doing so passively, from what I've found. Also, just because serious discussion does not happen constantly doesn't mean it never does. I understand that a decision has been made however, so that's all I'll say on the matter. -- [[User:Jota|Jota]] 14:20, 5 February 2010 (UTC)<br />
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::::::Why not do something like what facebook has and when a user is logged in, they have a little chat bar? i know there are a lot of difficulties with that, including having "friends lists" and the like, but its an idea. --[[User:Ozzy1234567890|Ozzy1234567890]] 07:21, 26 January 2011 (MST)<br />
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== Search Incapacitation ==<br />
The search function has been completely nonfunctional for me for a good few days, maybe half a week or more now. Once in a while I'll nail to a T an article's name, and it'll transport me there. Just hitting Search or mistyping anything causes it to utterly fail for me. Is this just a localized problem (which I don't think it is, I've used 3 different computers to try and access it, all were on different networks) or what's going on? --[[User:Harry Mason|Harry Mason]] 05:08, 26 February 2010 (UTC)<br />
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:Is it actually giving you an error, or just pulling up the extended/advanced search function ''(which is normal when you don't type an article name perfectly)''?. &nbsp;<small><span style="border: 1px solid black; -moz-border-radius:10px">[[User:Hooper|'''<span style="background-color:White; color:Black; -moz-border-radius-topleft:10px; -moz-border-radius-bottomleft:10px"> Hooper </span>''']][[User talk:Hooper|<span style="background-color:Black; color:white; -moz-border-radius-bottomleft:10px; -moz-border-radius-topleft:10px">&nbsp;&nbsp;talk&nbsp;&nbsp;</span>]][[Special:Contributions/Hooper|<span style="background-color:black; color:white">&nbsp;&nbsp;contribs&nbsp;&nbsp;</span>]][[Special:Emailuser/Hooper|<span style="background-color:black; color:white; -moz-border-radius-bottomright:10px; -moz-border-radius-topright:10px">&nbsp;&nbsp;email&nbsp;&nbsp;</span>]]</span></small> 13:28, 26 February 2010 (UTC)<br />
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::I'm having the same issues, the message "Query failed: connection to localhost:3312 failed (errno=111, msg=Connection refused)" appears when I try to search for something.<br />
::I'm having a similar problem, mainly in that I can't browse things, I can only see things when I search for them, which, makes looking at the diffrent races, quite difficult [[User:Sevant|Sevant]] 18:23, 5 July 2010 (UTC)<br />
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:::Search is working once again. --[[User:Green Dragon|Green Dragon]] 12:14, 22 August 2010 (MDT)<br />
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== Official Content Designation ==<br />
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Could a homebrew template be added? I keep coming here after a Google search and I keep finding overpowered homebrew things (like [[Paragon_of_Light/Darkness_%283.5e_Prestige_Class%29]]) and it usually takes me a moment to figure out that it's not official, just something some random person made up. I'd prefer to see some sort of note to that effect at the top of the page. [[User:Banaticus|Banaticus]] 02:57, 21 May 2010 (UTC)<br />
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:Ummm... A template is already added on all official pages. This is a homebrew site, so all articles are automatically assumed to be homebrew unless they are specified otherwise.--[[User:Vrail|Vrail]] 03:10, 21 May 2010 (UTC)<br />
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::There already is a homebrew template. Look down at the bottom of that page you linked... see where it says "{{DnD Classes Breadcrumb}} &rarr; [[DnD Prestige Classes|Prestige Classes]]"? "Homebrew" is even in the wording of the template. If you are looking for ONLY SRD material then look for pages starting with "SRD:". They will all have OGL templates as well.<br />
::Additionally, much of our homebrew content has ratings by other users, so you should know right away if it's overpowered. [[User:Jazzman831|Jazz]][[User talk:Jazzman831|Man]] 14:39, 21 May 2010 (UTC)<br />
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== Pictures Down? ==<br />
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While it might be my computer, it appears that something happened to the pictures on the site. They don't seem to be displaying. Am I wrong? Was there an announcement that I missed? [[User:Noname|Aristocles]] 05:20, 4 June 2010 (UTC)<br />
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:This question was already brought up on GD's talk page under [[User talk:Green Dragon#Images lost again|this header]]. However no clear answer was given by GD. All I know is that no, it is not your computer, and no there was no announcement. The pictures still exist on the media repository, however they are not linking properly. --[[User:Vrail|Vrail]] 13:05, 4 June 2010 (UTC)<br />
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::Images have been fixed. --[[User:Green Dragon|Green Dragon]] 12:12, 22 August 2010 (MDT)<br />
Are you sure? I dont see any- ANYWHERE!!!<br />
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== Marking a page as homebrew ==<br />
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How do we mark a page as homebrew? Take [Alon (3.5e Deity)] for instance. It turns out he's a homebrew god, although I don't see that anywhere on the page. It's sometimes difficult to tell the difference on this wiki between homebrew things and official things. [[Special:Contributions/97.93.94.242|97.93.94.242]] 12:42, 24 August 2010 (MDT)<br />
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:Any properly-created page should have a clear breadcrumb at the bottom of the page which leads back to a homebrew page. In addition any user-created content belongs in [[:Category:User]]. [[User:Jazzman831|Jazz]][[User talk:Jazzman831|Man]] 13:22, 27 August 2010 (MDT)<br />
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::You can also just click "3.5e Open Game Content" on the sidebar to take you to the "official" material. Almost everything on this site is homebrew. Because of that, what we do is mark pages that are official. If you don't see a template that says "Open Game Content", then the page you are viewing is essentially guaranteed to be homebrew content. --[[User:Badger|Badger]] 14:24, 27 August 2010 (MDT)<br />
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== 3 Million View ==<br />
Just a quick pat on the back, as per Statistics the main page has hit 3 million views. Too bad our news is months behind. &nbsp;<small><span style="border: 1px solid black; -moz-border-radius:10px">[[User:Hooper|'''<span style="background-color:White; color:Black; -moz-border-radius-topleft:10px; -moz-border-radius-bottomleft:10px"> Hooper </span>''']][[User talk:Hooper|<span style="background-color:Black; color:white; -moz-border-radius-bottomleft:10px; -moz-border-radius-topleft:10px">&nbsp;&nbsp;talk&nbsp;&nbsp;</span>]][[Special:Contributions/Hooper|<span style="background-color:black; color:white">&nbsp;&nbsp;contribs&nbsp;&nbsp;</span>]][[Special:Emailuser/Hooper|<span style="background-color:black; color:white; -moz-border-radius-bottomright:10px; -moz-border-radius-topright:10px">&nbsp;&nbsp;email&nbsp;&nbsp;</span>]]</span></small> 22:46, 3 January 2011 (MST)<br />
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:That's ok, I'm months behind on reading --[[User:Calidore Chase|Calidore Chase]] 04:33, 17 March 2011 (MDT)<br />
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== Advice on Creating Animal ==<br />
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Ok so i have no clue how to do this but i want to make an Exploding Chicken animal for D20M and all i know is that its a regular chicken that explodes when within 15ft of any nonchaotic for 1d6 damage at a range of 20ft. they have a total health of 3. they also are weak and are just mobile... firecracker i guess would be the best way of puting it. my DM said to just put it on here cause he wants to see what others think. thanks! *EDIT* i ment D20M Apocolypse<br />
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:I can't give you mechanical help with creating your creature, but I can give you wiki help. Go [[Add_a_New_D20M_Creature|here]] and replace "CreatureName" with "Exploding Chicken" or whatever you want to name it. Leave a space and (D20 Modern Creature) after the name, and then press "Create New Creature". It will take you to a page with a pre-load designed for creatures in the d20M universe (I don't know if that is the same as d20M Apocalypse, is it?). Like I said, I don't know anything about the d20M system, so I can't help you write your creature and balance it, but if you need help with tables or other wiki formatting, leave a message on my talk page. One last thing, don't forget to sign your posts by typing <nowiki> --~~~~ </nowiki>. --[[User:Badger|Badger]] 13:44, 21 January 2011 (MST)<br />
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::Thanks! and its pretty much the same as other systems. and i guess i ment that i needed tables for things like different sizes and their modifiers and things like that --[[User:Ozzy1234567890|Ozzy1234567890]] 10:54, 24 January 2011 (MST)<br />
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== April 1 ==<br />
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Is there going to be another [[:Category:April Fools|April Fools]] thing this year? -[[User:Ozzy1234567890|Ozzy1234567890]] 08:15, 28 March 2011 (MDT)<br />
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:Well I'm going to add April Fool stuff. I don't know about other people though. --[[User:Milo v3|Milo High-Hill]] 15:26, 28 March 2011 (MDT)<br />
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::If you're looking for ideas, try updating the random hooker table from the [[Dungeon Master's Guide (1e AD&D)|1e DMG]]. —[[User:Sledged|Sledged]] ([[User talk:Sledged|talk]]) 16:08, 28 March 2011 (MDT)<br />
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:::I've added the Chew'd Button and I'm going add Summon Potato this after noon.--[[User:Milo v3|Milo High-Hill]] 21:23, 31 March 2011 (MDT)<br />
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== Sheild Bash? ==<br />
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Hello ive been playing DnD 3.5 for a while now and I have a question a heavy sheild with spikes does 1d8 damage now when i enchanted it with "Bashing" my friends told me it now does 3d6 on a shield bash is this correct? {{unsigned|Grunt|2011-04-12 16:36}}<br />
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: Not quite. A [[SRD:Heavy Shield#Enhancements|spiked heavy shield]] does 1d6, not 1d8. According to the 3.5 FAQ, the bashing quality stacks with a spiked shield which raises the damage to 2d6. —[[User:Sledged|Sledged]] ([[User talk:Sledged|talk]]) 17:22, 12 April 2011 (MDT)<br />
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== Prototype... Class? Template? Race? Can someone help? ==<br />
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Hello in my groups recent dnd sessions we decided to try for an OP campaign as in epic class's templates and races based off of movies, books, games, etc... so if anyone has ever played the game ''Prototype'' and know about "Alex Mercer" and his "powers" then you would know what kind of chacacter I want for our OP Campaign. unfortionatly I dont know anything about making class's/Races/templates. So i was wondering if somebody could either make one for me or help me with making it. It would be very much appreciated.<br />
DND 3.5 PLEASE!<br />
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::The best person to ask, I believe, is [[User:Badger|Badger]]. --[[User:Ozzy1234567890|Ozzy1234567890]] 09:25, 16 April 2011 (MDT)</div>Ozzy1234567890https://www.dandwiki.com/w/index.php?title=Talk:Main_Page&diff=512111Talk:Main Page2011-03-28T16:50:27Z<p>Ozzy1234567890: /* April 1 */</p>
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== Anti Wiki Criticism ==<br />
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This is the most useful Wiki I have ever found on D&D, (and I've seen a LOT of on-line references). I am currently running an adventure and I keep this site open on my lap-top as I play. It saves me a great deal of time and speeds up play considerably. I almost never even open my Monster Manual anymore.<br />
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Kudos to the WebMaster. --[[User:Gildavinor|Gildavinor]] 18:13, 25 September 2009 (MDT)<br />
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:I agree very strongly with you, Gild! Though I didn't sign in very often previously, I absolutely adore this Wiki. It's the pinnacle of Dungeons and Dragons research and innovation. --[[User:Harry Mason|Harry Mason]] 18:42, 25 September 2009 (MDT)<br />
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::Taking sides in any instance is a bad idea... Neutrality is a great observational instrument if one is not affiliated therein. --[[User:Green Dragon|Green Dragon]] 21:51, 25 September 2009 (MDT)<br />
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:::Totally agree. --[[User:Lord Mattos|Lord Mattos]] 11:14, 29 November 2009 (MST)<br />
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== Two Millionth View! ==<br />
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Looks like today was [[Special:Statistics|the day]] folks! 2 million views on the main page! &nbsp;<small><span style="border: 1px solid black; -moz-border-radius:10px">[[User:Hooper|'''<span style="background-color:White; color:Black; -moz-border-radius-topleft:10px; -moz-border-radius-bottomleft:10px"> Hooper </span>''']][[User talk:Hooper|<span style="background-color:Black; color:white; -moz-border-radius-bottomleft:10px; -moz-border-radius-topleft:10px">&nbsp;&nbsp;talk&nbsp;&nbsp;</span>]][[Special:Contributions/Hooper|<span style="background-color:black; color:white">&nbsp;&nbsp;contribs&nbsp;&nbsp;</span>]][[Special:Emailuser/Hooper|<span style="background-color:black; color:white; -moz-border-radius-bottomright:10px; -moz-border-radius-topright:10px">&nbsp;&nbsp;email&nbsp;&nbsp;</span>]]</span></small> 12:46, 14 October 2009 (MDT)<br />
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:Yeah, now there are 2,299,388 views (Jan. 13,2010)! Wohoo! --[[User:Io|Io]] 16:52, 13 January 2010<br />
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And now, in the november of 2010, we have 3,080,184 views!<br />
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== Size ==<br />
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how many Megabytes is this whole site? {{Unsigned|216.12.83.73|22:29, 15 November 2009 (MDT)}}<br />
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:Why? --[[User:Green Dragon|Green Dragon]] 23:40, 15 November 2009 (MST)<br />
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::I was thinking of copying the source code so i cant look at it offline--[[User:Lo-Chi|Lt.Dan]] 07:20, 16 November 2009 (MST)<br />
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:::You don't need the size of D&D Wiki as a whole when looking at the source code ("''View Page Source''" for Mozilla Firefox). --[[User:Green Dragon|Green Dragon]] 12:12, 16 November 2009 (MST)<br />
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== The Tavern ==<br />
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After a huge hiatus I'm finally back to D&D Wiki (and happy to return!) following a long period of being almost broke. I notice that the Tavern, which was gone when I first had to go...still isn't back. That was one of my favorite parts of the Wiki, and I hope I'm just being stupid and missing it somewhere. Is it gone for good? --[[User:Harry Mason|Harry Mason]] 07:07, 4 February 2010 (UTC)<br />
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:It actually was discontinued. There is no "official" reason as to now however take a look at [[Discussion:The Tavern: use, expansion, and availability.]]. The main reason is "''...it is quite childish and immature at times and I feel at times it decreases the seriousness of D&D Wiki with childish behavior and immaturity.''" [[User:Green Dragon|Green Dragon]] "Discussion:The Tavern: use, expansion, and availability." 21:02, 20 November 2009 (MST). --[[User:Green Dragon|Green Dragon]] 22:07, 4 February 2010 (UTC)<br />
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::Ah...oh well. That's a little sad to me, but I can see the reasoning behind it, it -was- rather vulgar at times. Thank you for replying. :) --[[User:Harry Mason|Harry Mason]] 01:49, 5 February 2010 (UTC)<br />
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:::I'm coming back too and I too liked the tavern... I agree with the reasoning, but I still think we should have an effective way of conversation, since a wiki is not the best tool for talking...<br>Isn't there something that could be implemented in the place of the tavern (and maybe have some rules as to swearing and misbehaviour, making disrespectful users suspended/banned from using it)?--[[User:ElfsMaster|ElfsMaster]] 10:49, 5 February 2010 (UTC)<br />
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::::But this '''is''' a wiki, and by not having the sidetrack of a chat users may tend to rely more on the already established discussion tool. Or they can leave messages on talk pages of other users. It actually encourages the opening of discussions and talks between users on the wiki - which can lead to more wiki additions and improvements, instead of just idle chatter. &nbsp;<small><span style="border: 1px solid black; -moz-border-radius:10px">[[User:Hooper|'''<span style="background-color:White; color:Black; -moz-border-radius-topleft:10px; -moz-border-radius-bottomleft:10px"> Hooper </span>''']][[User talk:Hooper|<span style="background-color:Black; color:white; -moz-border-radius-bottomleft:10px; -moz-border-radius-topleft:10px">&nbsp;&nbsp;talk&nbsp;&nbsp;</span>]][[Special:Contributions/Hooper|<span style="background-color:black; color:white">&nbsp;&nbsp;contribs&nbsp;&nbsp;</span>]][[Special:Emailuser/Hooper|<span style="background-color:black; color:white; -moz-border-radius-bottomright:10px; -moz-border-radius-topright:10px">&nbsp;&nbsp;email&nbsp;&nbsp;</span>]]</span></small> 14:07, 5 February 2010 (UTC)<br />
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:::::Appealing to people in real time is more effective than doing so passively, from what I've found. Also, just because serious discussion does not happen constantly doesn't mean it never does. I understand that a decision has been made however, so that's all I'll say on the matter. -- [[User:Jota|Jota]] 14:20, 5 February 2010 (UTC)<br />
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::::::Why not do something like what facebook has and when a user is logged in, they have a little chat bar? i know there are a lot of difficulties with that, including having "friends lists" and the like, but its an idea. --[[User:Ozzy1234567890|Ozzy1234567890]] 07:21, 26 January 2011 (MST)<br />
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== Search Incapacitation ==<br />
The search function has been completely nonfunctional for me for a good few days, maybe half a week or more now. Once in a while I'll nail to a T an article's name, and it'll transport me there. Just hitting Search or mistyping anything causes it to utterly fail for me. Is this just a localized problem (which I don't think it is, I've used 3 different computers to try and access it, all were on different networks) or what's going on? --[[User:Harry Mason|Harry Mason]] 05:08, 26 February 2010 (UTC)<br />
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:Is it actually giving you an error, or just pulling up the extended/advanced search function ''(which is normal when you don't type an article name perfectly)''?. &nbsp;<small><span style="border: 1px solid black; -moz-border-radius:10px">[[User:Hooper|'''<span style="background-color:White; color:Black; -moz-border-radius-topleft:10px; -moz-border-radius-bottomleft:10px"> Hooper </span>''']][[User talk:Hooper|<span style="background-color:Black; color:white; -moz-border-radius-bottomleft:10px; -moz-border-radius-topleft:10px">&nbsp;&nbsp;talk&nbsp;&nbsp;</span>]][[Special:Contributions/Hooper|<span style="background-color:black; color:white">&nbsp;&nbsp;contribs&nbsp;&nbsp;</span>]][[Special:Emailuser/Hooper|<span style="background-color:black; color:white; -moz-border-radius-bottomright:10px; -moz-border-radius-topright:10px">&nbsp;&nbsp;email&nbsp;&nbsp;</span>]]</span></small> 13:28, 26 February 2010 (UTC)<br />
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::I'm having the same issues, the message "Query failed: connection to localhost:3312 failed (errno=111, msg=Connection refused)" appears when I try to search for something.<br />
::I'm having a similar problem, mainly in that I can't browse things, I can only see things when I search for them, which, makes looking at the diffrent races, quite difficult [[User:Sevant|Sevant]] 18:23, 5 July 2010 (UTC)<br />
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:::Search is working once again. --[[User:Green Dragon|Green Dragon]] 12:14, 22 August 2010 (MDT)<br />
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== Official Content Designation ==<br />
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Could a homebrew template be added? I keep coming here after a Google search and I keep finding overpowered homebrew things (like [[Paragon_of_Light/Darkness_%283.5e_Prestige_Class%29]]) and it usually takes me a moment to figure out that it's not official, just something some random person made up. I'd prefer to see some sort of note to that effect at the top of the page. [[User:Banaticus|Banaticus]] 02:57, 21 May 2010 (UTC)<br />
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:Ummm... A template is already added on all official pages. This is a homebrew site, so all articles are automatically assumed to be homebrew unless they are specified otherwise.--[[User:Vrail|Vrail]] 03:10, 21 May 2010 (UTC)<br />
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::There already is a homebrew template. Look down at the bottom of that page you linked... see where it says "{{DnD Classes Breadcrumb}} &rarr; [[DnD Prestige Classes|Prestige Classes]]"? "Homebrew" is even in the wording of the template. If you are looking for ONLY SRD material then look for pages starting with "SRD:". They will all have OGL templates as well.<br />
::Additionally, much of our homebrew content has ratings by other users, so you should know right away if it's overpowered. [[User:Jazzman831|Jazz]][[User talk:Jazzman831|Man]] 14:39, 21 May 2010 (UTC)<br />
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== Pictures Down? ==<br />
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While it might be my computer, it appears that something happened to the pictures on the site. They don't seem to be displaying. Am I wrong? Was there an announcement that I missed? [[User:Noname|Aristocles]] 05:20, 4 June 2010 (UTC)<br />
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:This question was already brought up on GD's talk page under [[User talk:Green Dragon#Images lost again|this header]]. However no clear answer was given by GD. All I know is that no, it is not your computer, and no there was no announcement. The pictures still exist on the media repository, however they are not linking properly. --[[User:Vrail|Vrail]] 13:05, 4 June 2010 (UTC)<br />
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::Images have been fixed. --[[User:Green Dragon|Green Dragon]] 12:12, 22 August 2010 (MDT)<br />
Are you sure? I dont see any- ANYWHERE!!!<br />
[[User:DragonFist|DragonFist]] 20:13, 17 December 2010 (MST)<br />
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== Marking a page as homebrew ==<br />
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How do we mark a page as homebrew? Take [Alon (3.5e Deity)] for instance. It turns out he's a homebrew god, although I don't see that anywhere on the page. It's sometimes difficult to tell the difference on this wiki between homebrew things and official things. [[Special:Contributions/97.93.94.242|97.93.94.242]] 12:42, 24 August 2010 (MDT)<br />
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:Any properly-created page should have a clear breadcrumb at the bottom of the page which leads back to a homebrew page. In addition any user-created content belongs in [[:Category:User]]. [[User:Jazzman831|Jazz]][[User talk:Jazzman831|Man]] 13:22, 27 August 2010 (MDT)<br />
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::You can also just click "3.5e Open Game Content" on the sidebar to take you to the "official" material. Almost everything on this site is homebrew. Because of that, what we do is mark pages that are official. If you don't see a template that says "Open Game Content", then the page you are viewing is essentially guaranteed to be homebrew content. --[[User:Badger|Badger]] 14:24, 27 August 2010 (MDT)<br />
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== 3 Million View ==<br />
Just a quick pat on the back, as per Statistics the main page has hit 3 million views. Too bad our news is months behind. &nbsp;<small><span style="border: 1px solid black; -moz-border-radius:10px">[[User:Hooper|'''<span style="background-color:White; color:Black; -moz-border-radius-topleft:10px; -moz-border-radius-bottomleft:10px"> Hooper </span>''']][[User talk:Hooper|<span style="background-color:Black; color:white; -moz-border-radius-bottomleft:10px; -moz-border-radius-topleft:10px">&nbsp;&nbsp;talk&nbsp;&nbsp;</span>]][[Special:Contributions/Hooper|<span style="background-color:black; color:white">&nbsp;&nbsp;contribs&nbsp;&nbsp;</span>]][[Special:Emailuser/Hooper|<span style="background-color:black; color:white; -moz-border-radius-bottomright:10px; -moz-border-radius-topright:10px">&nbsp;&nbsp;email&nbsp;&nbsp;</span>]]</span></small> 22:46, 3 January 2011 (MST)<br />
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:That's ok, I'm months behind on reading --[[User:Calidore Chase|Calidore Chase]] 04:33, 17 March 2011 (MDT)<br />
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== Advice on Creating Animal ==<br />
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Ok so i have no clue how to do this but i want to make an Exploding Chicken animal for D20M and all i know is that its a regular chicken that explodes when within 15ft of any nonchaotic for 1d6 damage at a range of 20ft. they have a total health of 3. they also are weak and are just mobile... firecracker i guess would be the best way of puting it. my DM said to just put it on here cause he wants to see what others think. thanks! *EDIT* i ment D20M Apocolypse<br />
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:I can't give you mechanical help with creating your creature, but I can give you wiki help. Go [[Add_a_New_D20M_Creature|here]] and replace "CreatureName" with "Exploding Chicken" or whatever you want to name it. Leave a space and (D20 Modern Creature) after the name, and then press "Create New Creature". It will take you to a page with a pre-load designed for creatures in the d20M universe (I don't know if that is the same as d20M Apocalypse, is it?). Like I said, I don't know anything about the d20M system, so I can't help you write your creature and balance it, but if you need help with tables or other wiki formatting, leave a message on my talk page. One last thing, don't forget to sign your posts by typing <nowiki> --~~~~ </nowiki>. --[[User:Badger|Badger]] 13:44, 21 January 2011 (MST)<br />
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::Thanks! and its pretty much the same as other systems. and i guess i ment that i needed tables for things like different sizes and their modifiers and things like that --[[User:Ozzy1234567890|Ozzy1234567890]] 10:54, 24 January 2011 (MST)<br />
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== April 1 ==<br />
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Is there going to be another April_Fools thing this year? -[[User:Ozzy1234567890|Ozzy1234567890]] 08:15, 28 March 2011 (MDT)</div>Ozzy1234567890https://www.dandwiki.com/w/index.php?title=Talk:Main_Page&diff=512109Talk:Main Page2011-03-28T14:15:16Z<p>Ozzy1234567890: /* April 1 */ new section</p>
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== Anti Wiki Criticism ==<br />
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This is the most useful Wiki I have ever found on D&D, (and I've seen a LOT of on-line references). I am currently running an adventure and I keep this site open on my lap-top as I play. It saves me a great deal of time and speeds up play considerably. I almost never even open my Monster Manual anymore.<br />
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Kudos to the WebMaster. --[[User:Gildavinor|Gildavinor]] 18:13, 25 September 2009 (MDT)<br />
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:I agree very strongly with you, Gild! Though I didn't sign in very often previously, I absolutely adore this Wiki. It's the pinnacle of Dungeons and Dragons research and innovation. --[[User:Harry Mason|Harry Mason]] 18:42, 25 September 2009 (MDT)<br />
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::Taking sides in any instance is a bad idea... Neutrality is a great observational instrument if one is not affiliated therein. --[[User:Green Dragon|Green Dragon]] 21:51, 25 September 2009 (MDT)<br />
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:::Totally agree. --[[User:Lord Mattos|Lord Mattos]] 11:14, 29 November 2009 (MST)<br />
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== Two Millionth View! ==<br />
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Looks like today was [[Special:Statistics|the day]] folks! 2 million views on the main page! &nbsp;<small><span style="border: 1px solid black; -moz-border-radius:10px">[[User:Hooper|'''<span style="background-color:White; color:Black; -moz-border-radius-topleft:10px; -moz-border-radius-bottomleft:10px"> Hooper </span>''']][[User talk:Hooper|<span style="background-color:Black; color:white; -moz-border-radius-bottomleft:10px; -moz-border-radius-topleft:10px">&nbsp;&nbsp;talk&nbsp;&nbsp;</span>]][[Special:Contributions/Hooper|<span style="background-color:black; color:white">&nbsp;&nbsp;contribs&nbsp;&nbsp;</span>]][[Special:Emailuser/Hooper|<span style="background-color:black; color:white; -moz-border-radius-bottomright:10px; -moz-border-radius-topright:10px">&nbsp;&nbsp;email&nbsp;&nbsp;</span>]]</span></small> 12:46, 14 October 2009 (MDT)<br />
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:Yeah, now there are 2,299,388 views (Jan. 13,2010)! Wohoo! --[[User:Io|Io]] 16:52, 13 January 2010<br />
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And now, in the november of 2010, we have 3,080,184 views!<br />
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== Size ==<br />
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how many Megabytes is this whole site? {{Unsigned|216.12.83.73|22:29, 15 November 2009 (MDT)}}<br />
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:Why? --[[User:Green Dragon|Green Dragon]] 23:40, 15 November 2009 (MST)<br />
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::I was thinking of copying the source code so i cant look at it offline--[[User:Lo-Chi|Lt.Dan]] 07:20, 16 November 2009 (MST)<br />
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:::You don't need the size of D&D Wiki as a whole when looking at the source code ("''View Page Source''" for Mozilla Firefox). --[[User:Green Dragon|Green Dragon]] 12:12, 16 November 2009 (MST)<br />
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== The Tavern ==<br />
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After a huge hiatus I'm finally back to D&D Wiki (and happy to return!) following a long period of being almost broke. I notice that the Tavern, which was gone when I first had to go...still isn't back. That was one of my favorite parts of the Wiki, and I hope I'm just being stupid and missing it somewhere. Is it gone for good? --[[User:Harry Mason|Harry Mason]] 07:07, 4 February 2010 (UTC)<br />
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:It actually was discontinued. There is no "official" reason as to now however take a look at [[Discussion:The Tavern: use, expansion, and availability.]]. The main reason is "''...it is quite childish and immature at times and I feel at times it decreases the seriousness of D&D Wiki with childish behavior and immaturity.''" [[User:Green Dragon|Green Dragon]] "Discussion:The Tavern: use, expansion, and availability." 21:02, 20 November 2009 (MST). --[[User:Green Dragon|Green Dragon]] 22:07, 4 February 2010 (UTC)<br />
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::Ah...oh well. That's a little sad to me, but I can see the reasoning behind it, it -was- rather vulgar at times. Thank you for replying. :) --[[User:Harry Mason|Harry Mason]] 01:49, 5 February 2010 (UTC)<br />
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:::I'm coming back too and I too liked the tavern... I agree with the reasoning, but I still think we should have an effective way of conversation, since a wiki is not the best tool for talking...<br>Isn't there something that could be implemented in the place of the tavern (and maybe have some rules as to swearing and misbehaviour, making disrespectful users suspended/banned from using it)?--[[User:ElfsMaster|ElfsMaster]] 10:49, 5 February 2010 (UTC)<br />
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::::But this '''is''' a wiki, and by not having the sidetrack of a chat users may tend to rely more on the already established discussion tool. Or they can leave messages on talk pages of other users. It actually encourages the opening of discussions and talks between users on the wiki - which can lead to more wiki additions and improvements, instead of just idle chatter. &nbsp;<small><span style="border: 1px solid black; -moz-border-radius:10px">[[User:Hooper|'''<span style="background-color:White; color:Black; -moz-border-radius-topleft:10px; -moz-border-radius-bottomleft:10px"> Hooper </span>''']][[User talk:Hooper|<span style="background-color:Black; color:white; -moz-border-radius-bottomleft:10px; -moz-border-radius-topleft:10px">&nbsp;&nbsp;talk&nbsp;&nbsp;</span>]][[Special:Contributions/Hooper|<span style="background-color:black; color:white">&nbsp;&nbsp;contribs&nbsp;&nbsp;</span>]][[Special:Emailuser/Hooper|<span style="background-color:black; color:white; -moz-border-radius-bottomright:10px; -moz-border-radius-topright:10px">&nbsp;&nbsp;email&nbsp;&nbsp;</span>]]</span></small> 14:07, 5 February 2010 (UTC)<br />
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:::::Appealing to people in real time is more effective than doing so passively, from what I've found. Also, just because serious discussion does not happen constantly doesn't mean it never does. I understand that a decision has been made however, so that's all I'll say on the matter. -- [[User:Jota|Jota]] 14:20, 5 February 2010 (UTC)<br />
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::::::Why not do something like what facebook has and when a user is logged in, they have a little chat bar? i know there are a lot of difficulties with that, including having "friends lists" and the like, but its an idea. --[[User:Ozzy1234567890|Ozzy1234567890]] 07:21, 26 January 2011 (MST)<br />
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== Search Incapacitation ==<br />
The search function has been completely nonfunctional for me for a good few days, maybe half a week or more now. Once in a while I'll nail to a T an article's name, and it'll transport me there. Just hitting Search or mistyping anything causes it to utterly fail for me. Is this just a localized problem (which I don't think it is, I've used 3 different computers to try and access it, all were on different networks) or what's going on? --[[User:Harry Mason|Harry Mason]] 05:08, 26 February 2010 (UTC)<br />
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:Is it actually giving you an error, or just pulling up the extended/advanced search function ''(which is normal when you don't type an article name perfectly)''?. &nbsp;<small><span style="border: 1px solid black; -moz-border-radius:10px">[[User:Hooper|'''<span style="background-color:White; color:Black; -moz-border-radius-topleft:10px; -moz-border-radius-bottomleft:10px"> Hooper </span>''']][[User talk:Hooper|<span style="background-color:Black; color:white; -moz-border-radius-bottomleft:10px; -moz-border-radius-topleft:10px">&nbsp;&nbsp;talk&nbsp;&nbsp;</span>]][[Special:Contributions/Hooper|<span style="background-color:black; color:white">&nbsp;&nbsp;contribs&nbsp;&nbsp;</span>]][[Special:Emailuser/Hooper|<span style="background-color:black; color:white; -moz-border-radius-bottomright:10px; -moz-border-radius-topright:10px">&nbsp;&nbsp;email&nbsp;&nbsp;</span>]]</span></small> 13:28, 26 February 2010 (UTC)<br />
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::I'm having the same issues, the message "Query failed: connection to localhost:3312 failed (errno=111, msg=Connection refused)" appears when I try to search for something.<br />
::I'm having a similar problem, mainly in that I can't browse things, I can only see things when I search for them, which, makes looking at the diffrent races, quite difficult [[User:Sevant|Sevant]] 18:23, 5 July 2010 (UTC)<br />
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:::Search is working once again. --[[User:Green Dragon|Green Dragon]] 12:14, 22 August 2010 (MDT)<br />
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== Official Content Designation ==<br />
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Could a homebrew template be added? I keep coming here after a Google search and I keep finding overpowered homebrew things (like [[Paragon_of_Light/Darkness_%283.5e_Prestige_Class%29]]) and it usually takes me a moment to figure out that it's not official, just something some random person made up. I'd prefer to see some sort of note to that effect at the top of the page. [[User:Banaticus|Banaticus]] 02:57, 21 May 2010 (UTC)<br />
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:Ummm... A template is already added on all official pages. This is a homebrew site, so all articles are automatically assumed to be homebrew unless they are specified otherwise.--[[User:Vrail|Vrail]] 03:10, 21 May 2010 (UTC)<br />
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::There already is a homebrew template. Look down at the bottom of that page you linked... see where it says "{{DnD Classes Breadcrumb}} &rarr; [[DnD Prestige Classes|Prestige Classes]]"? "Homebrew" is even in the wording of the template. If you are looking for ONLY SRD material then look for pages starting with "SRD:". They will all have OGL templates as well.<br />
::Additionally, much of our homebrew content has ratings by other users, so you should know right away if it's overpowered. [[User:Jazzman831|Jazz]][[User talk:Jazzman831|Man]] 14:39, 21 May 2010 (UTC)<br />
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== Pictures Down? ==<br />
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While it might be my computer, it appears that something happened to the pictures on the site. They don't seem to be displaying. Am I wrong? Was there an announcement that I missed? [[User:Noname|Aristocles]] 05:20, 4 June 2010 (UTC)<br />
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:This question was already brought up on GD's talk page under [[User talk:Green Dragon#Images lost again|this header]]. However no clear answer was given by GD. All I know is that no, it is not your computer, and no there was no announcement. The pictures still exist on the media repository, however they are not linking properly. --[[User:Vrail|Vrail]] 13:05, 4 June 2010 (UTC)<br />
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::Images have been fixed. --[[User:Green Dragon|Green Dragon]] 12:12, 22 August 2010 (MDT)<br />
Are you sure? I dont see any- ANYWHERE!!!<br />
[[User:DragonFist|DragonFist]] 20:13, 17 December 2010 (MST)<br />
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== Marking a page as homebrew ==<br />
<br />
How do we mark a page as homebrew? Take [Alon (3.5e Deity)] for instance. It turns out he's a homebrew god, although I don't see that anywhere on the page. It's sometimes difficult to tell the difference on this wiki between homebrew things and official things. [[Special:Contributions/97.93.94.242|97.93.94.242]] 12:42, 24 August 2010 (MDT)<br />
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:Any properly-created page should have a clear breadcrumb at the bottom of the page which leads back to a homebrew page. In addition any user-created content belongs in [[:Category:User]]. [[User:Jazzman831|Jazz]][[User talk:Jazzman831|Man]] 13:22, 27 August 2010 (MDT)<br />
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::You can also just click "3.5e Open Game Content" on the sidebar to take you to the "official" material. Almost everything on this site is homebrew. Because of that, what we do is mark pages that are official. If you don't see a template that says "Open Game Content", then the page you are viewing is essentially guaranteed to be homebrew content. --[[User:Badger|Badger]] 14:24, 27 August 2010 (MDT)<br />
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== 3 Million View ==<br />
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:That's ok, I'm months behind on reading --[[User:Calidore Chase|Calidore Chase]] 04:33, 17 March 2011 (MDT)<br />
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== Advice on Creating Animal ==<br />
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Ok so i have no clue how to do this but i want to make an Exploding Chicken animal for D20M and all i know is that its a regular chicken that explodes when within 15ft of any nonchaotic for 1d6 damage at a range of 20ft. they have a total health of 3. they also are weak and are just mobile... firecracker i guess would be the best way of puting it. my DM said to just put it on here cause he wants to see what others think. thanks! *EDIT* i ment D20M Apocolypse<br />
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:I can't give you mechanical help with creating your creature, but I can give you wiki help. Go [[Add_a_New_D20M_Creature|here]] and replace "CreatureName" with "Exploding Chicken" or whatever you want to name it. Leave a space and (D20 Modern Creature) after the name, and then press "Create New Creature". It will take you to a page with a pre-load designed for creatures in the d20M universe (I don't know if that is the same as d20M Apocalypse, is it?). Like I said, I don't know anything about the d20M system, so I can't help you write your creature and balance it, but if you need help with tables or other wiki formatting, leave a message on my talk page. One last thing, don't forget to sign your posts by typing <nowiki> --~~~~ </nowiki>. --[[User:Badger|Badger]] 13:44, 21 January 2011 (MST)<br />
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::Thanks! and its pretty much the same as other systems. and i guess i ment that i needed tables for things like different sizes and their modifiers and things like that --[[User:Ozzy1234567890|Ozzy1234567890]] 10:54, 24 January 2011 (MST)<br />
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== April 1 ==<br />
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<div>Hey, this is Ozzy! No, not Ozzy Osbourne. I am a Jack-of-all-Trades, so to speek, in real life. In D&D, I am a Fast Hero Spider Rider in D20 Apoclypse. Not much else to say so I guess I better get back to my studies!<br />
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<div>== Phoenix v0.1 == <br />
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I have a free d20 Modern expansion pack that I've been working on. It's a superhero system, the goal of which is to maintain total d20 compatibility and be an expansion pack, not a standalone product. You can find it here (http://members.shaw.ca/orionuk/Phoenix.v0.1.pdf). There are seven chapters. <br />
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Ch1 "Building a Hero" (character creation). <br />
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Ch2 "Classes" (superhero classes, built on the D&D model)<br />
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Ch3 "Skills" (the d20 Modern skills, arranged by class)<br />
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Ch4 "Feats" (a complete list of all D&D and d20 Modern feats, with some Psionic feats thrown in, and 40+ pages of original feats)<br />
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Ch5 "Powers" (50+ pages of superhero-style powers, from Flight to Extra Limbs to Webbing)<br />
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Ch6 "Combat and Movement" (fighting with superstrength, swinging, fighting in zero-G)<br />
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Ch7 "Running the Game" (the GMing chapter, notes on superheroes as a genre, tips on running any RPG)<br />
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Please feel free to download the game! It's a hobby project. If you email the address listed in the Introduction, I will send you any and all updates to the system that I make in the future. Updates come out every six weeks or so, or when I feel like avoiding my dissertation.<br />
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== Please ==<br />
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Please add a section for Advanced Classes. Modern class structure follows the order of:<br />
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* Base Class<br />
* Advanced Class<br />
* Prestige Class<br />
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Advanced Classes are 10 levels, Prestige Classes are 5 levels. Base classes do not change often, though there have been (a couple) variant base classes created. The most customization of classes takes place in Advanced Classes. ~ ShadoStahker, WotC Modern board member<br />
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:I added it, thank you for telling me that. I do not play D20 Modern often, so...<br />
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::No problem, thanks for putting it up. I know a couple people on the WotC boards are also interested in a NPCs section (may be a good idea for the D&D part too). As well, there may be interest in a "talent trees" section for fan-made base class talent trees (if you aren't familiar, they're similar to class-specific feat trees, for base classes only). ~ ShadoStahker<br />
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:::NPCs... There's a link to such a wiki here: http://d20npcs.wikicities.com/wiki/D20_Modern_NPCs_by_Challenge_Rating<br />
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::::Actually, there's DnD NPCs there as well. --[[User:PsiSeveredHead|PsiSeveredHead]] 21:26, 15 February 2006 (MST) WotC board member<br />
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== Hello ==<br />
My name is [[User:Wolfen Fenrison|Wolfen]] , some of you may remember me from the WotC boards, anyway I'm the admid for the D20 modern section so any questions or requests can be directed at me, thank you.<br />
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:Hey Wolfen. The only thing I can think of is a "Talent Trees" section. I personally don't use expanded talent trees, but I know some do. They may fit under "Variant Rules", though. Also, the main page is now unlocked. I don't know if you'd want to lock it again, but I'd assume so. ~ ShadoStahker<br />
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::You are correct expanded talent trees should go under varient rules -Wolfen<br />
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== Hi ==<br />
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This is blackknight5k from the wotc boards, how's it going? Anyways, I was thinking that it might be a good idea to more organize d20 modern with something like "d20 past, d20 modern, d20 future" because I know no one likes to go through d20 past stuff to get to a new mecha, or something like that. It might not be a problem now, but it might become a little cluttered if this wiki takes off.<br />
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:neccesity... as of late i hae become rather busy, finding a job, kingdom hearts 2, important stuff like that. but maby latter this week the d20 modern page will get a major update. as for sections for past and future, submissions should be marked for modern, past, or future. - Wolfen<br />
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::Em Back... Well the update I promised is done, and I updated my campaign setting, it is good to see all the material has been posted since green dragon and I concived this section and then handed it over to me. My hope is that as this game grows and evolves community support and creativity will grow as well, and remember the only stupid idea is the one not acted upon. - Wolfen<br />
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:::I agree with ''blackknight5k'' we need to break down d20 Modern into d20 Past, d20 Modern, d20 Future, and most all d20 Apocalypse. These variations are core to d20 Modern and if they sub-catagories are implemented now it will stop confusion in the future. -- [[User:Sepsis|Sepsis]] 18:15, 7 February 2007 (MST)<br />
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::::I say okay, lets do it. However, before anything else, all the D20 Past need to be part of [[:Category:D20 Past]], all the D20 Modern need to be a part of [[:Category:D20 Modern]], etc. When this is done the change will be easy. --[[User:Green Dragon|Green Dragon]] 19:15, 7 February 2007 (MST)<br />
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:::::The category right now is D20M for modern stuff. It would be easy enough to use D20P for past, D20F for future, and D20A for apocalypse. And the shorthand would be kept. Do we want to do it this way or the longer way (spelling out modern, past, etc.)? I personally prefer the shorthand... --[[User:EldritchNumen|EldritchNumen]] 02:03, 9 February 2007 (MST)<br />
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::::::Shorthand. When I posted that I did not think of good "Shorthands" so I just wrote them long. Good thinking and the Shorthands should be used. --[[User:Green Dragon|Green Dragon]] 12:40, 11 February 2007 (MST)<br />
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== Keep em coming guys ==<br />
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I'm very pleased with the amount of matirial that is getting posted (the oil elemental is very sweet), I'm working on more stuff my self but job huntinh has priority right now. -Wolfen<br />
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== Categories ==<br />
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Are there any D20 modern categories? Virtually none of the pages have categories or "return to" bars. I'll start to add some, but I need to know what categories there are and (if there are none) what should be made (besides the obvious: D20 modern feats, classes, etc.). Help? --[[User:EldritchNumen|EldritchNumen]] 14:50, 18 December 2006 (MST)<br />
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:To be honest, I really don't care that much about D20M. I don't play it, and I only added it to this site as an afterthought. So... when a new item is posted, or when the D&D section of D&D Wiki changes, I do not change the D20M section to reflect the D&D change. This section is a ''very'' primitive version of the D&D section. If you would like, go ahead and update it, and try to make it like the D&D section. If you have any questions of what categories are correct for what please feel free to ask me. --[[User:Green Dragon|Green Dragon]] 15:55, 18 December 2006 (MST)<br />
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== Admin Cat change... ==<br />
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Could an admin please change the category of this page from "D20Modern" to "D20 Modern". The second category will be the one used for all the D20 Modern pages. Thanks! --[[User:EldritchNumen|EldritchNumen]] 03:49, 19 December 2006 (MST)<br />
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:I changed the category; but not to what you wanted. I think all D20M material should be under D20M category, not D20 Modern. I changed it to reflect this. Will this work for your modernization of [[D20 Modern]]? Now for the reason: In the begginging of the D&D section of this site, all the cateories were [[:Category:Dungeons and Dragons]], and as the D&D seciton changed all the categories became [[:Category:DnD]] (Even though many are still part of [[:Category:Dungeons and Dragons]]). So, since you are bringing this up to date, all the categories should be brought up to date. I hope I made sense... --[[User:Green Dragon|Green Dragon]] 15:02, 19 December 2006 (MST)<br />
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== Updating Check Boxes ==<br />
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I changed the equipment splash page. It can have a green check mark now. I'll fix up the rest in the coming days. ''':)''' --[[User:EldritchNumen|EldritchNumen]] 02:00, 9 February 2007 (MST)<br />
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:Feats now, also. --[[User:EldritchNumen|EldritchNumen]] 03:35, 10 February 2007 (MST)<br />
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::And Races and FX Abilities. All have been updated to mirror the DnD pages. --[[User:EldritchNumen|EldritchNumen]] 03:45, 10 February 2007 (MST)<br />
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:::For the classes description on this page, the "and NPC..." should be removed. There are not NPC classes in D20 Modern. --[[User:EldritchNumen|EldritchNumen]] 21:04, 10 February 2007 (MST)<br />
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::::Okay... <br />
::::*Classes<br />
::::**<strike>The actual pages need a dlpc header so they show up on the "With Descriptions" pages</strike><br />
::::**<strike>Since the MSRD has been added all the MSRD classes need to be linked to here just like [[DnD Classes]].</strike><br />
::::**the "By type" pages need to be made with dlpcu's.<br />
::::*Equipment<br />
::::**This needs to be like [[DnD Equipment]] with the table (maybe?).<br />
::::*Feats<br />
::::**Shouldn't these be organized into general categories than put into wikitables (like [[DnD Feats]])?<br />
::::*FX Abilities<br />
::::**They need to be broken up by class than (so it is ''more'' advanced than [[DnD Feats]]) into dpl's by level.<br />
::::*Races<br />
::::**There must be a LA page; an all page, and the LA pages should include a dplcu list (like LA 6 races on [[3.5e Races]]). Also, this page needs to look like [[3.5e Races]] when done (LA on the side with links to other places throughout). <br />
::::This is all I can think of now, and I am sorry if this is a lot (I left all the harder ones to be done later ''':)'''). If you want help ask and I will be more than willing to help. --[[User:Green Dragon|Green Dragon]] 13:08, 11 February 2007 (MST)<br />
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:::::I'm going to put off working on the equipment and FX Abilities for now, since there is almost no content there. It can be updated later, if necessary. For now the simply DPLC lists I've implemented should work. Classes is first up for work; I'm actually finally getting there on some of the things to do. Next up will be races and, as I go, fixing all the tables into the "d20" class (I'm doing this as I go, for the most part). --[[User:EldritchNumen|EldritchNumen]] 02:04, 13 February 2007 (MST)<br />
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::::::Okay. So far classes looks better than before. Good work so far. --[[User:Green Dragon|Green Dragon]] 22:04, 13 February 2007 (MST)<br />
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== Checklist of Updates and Revisions ==<br />
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# Add preload functions:<br />
#*<s>[[D20 Modern Character Optimizations]]</s><br />
#*<s>[[D20 Modern Classes]]</s><br />
#*<s>[[D20 Modern Feats]]</s><br />
#*[[D20 Modern Races]]<br />
#*[[D20 Modern Creatures]]<br />
#*[[D20 Modern NPCs]]<br />
# D20 Modern Classes:<br />
#*<s> Add dplcus for classes by type.</s><br />
#* <s>Make the MSRD links link to ''only'' the class type in question with their own dlp page while not linking to [[Classes (MSRD)]].</s><br />
# Update all tables to d20 class.<br />
# <s>Update all categories to newest system.</s><br />
# Change all the pages to the formatting used in the preload (the very old pages are just haphazardly thrown together, and it doesn't look very professional).<br />
# Make a D20 Modern specific creature template (with Massive Damage Threshold, etc.).<br />
# Major overhaul of [[D20 Modern Races]]; it needs to look like the DnD version, with LA categories, an "All" page, etc.<br />
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::This is mainly just for me, and will grow as other important things come up. But feel free to add things if they come up. &mdash;[[User:EldritchNumen|EldritchNumen]] 17:03, 20 February 2007 (MST)<br />
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:::Some of this is going to be a pain to do without the ability to edit the MSRD. For example, the categories should be renamed, and the pages need to be split (there needs to be just a MSRD:Basic Classes page, that has the category "Basic Class (MSRD)", etc. Otherwise setting up some of the pages, such as the class splash page, can't be done with any sort of efficiency or order (see 2B above about classes, for example)... --[[User:EldritchNumen|EldritchNumen]] 15:13, 21 February 2007 (MST)<br />
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::::Hm... All I can say is ask Dmilewski as he is in charge of the MSRD ''or'' just go for an RfA. --[[User:Green Dragon|Green Dragon]] 11:43, 22 February 2007 (MST)<br />
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:::::I removed all the checks and x's from the page, primarily to make it look better. Is this okay? I figured I know pretty well what still has to be updated, and I'm keeping a running list here, so we don't need to clutter the home page with it... what do you think? &mdash;[[User:EldritchNumen|EldritchNumen]] 00:06, 9 March 2007 (MST)<br />
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::::::I only speak for myself however it should be okay. Since you have taken over D20M I am sure you know what needs to be done. Removing the X's is a good move so visitors understand their is content even though X's used to be their. --[[User:Green Dragon|Green Dragon]] 10:48, 9 March 2007 (MST)<br />
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== Homebrew Occupations? ==<br />
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Please do add a category for homebrew occupations, I have some I'd like to share. [[User:81.233.196.49|81.233.196.49]] 04:31, 1 June 2008 (MDT)<br />
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:Done. Enjoy! ''':)''' &mdash;[[User:EldritchNumen|EldritchNumen]] 13:27, 2 June 2008 (MDT)<br />
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==Homebrew to-do list==<br />
We definitely need to sort out the re organisation of the classes at least... --[[User:Sabre070|Sabre070]] 16:05, 14 November 2008 (MST)<br />
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== Add Homebrew Skills? ==<br />
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Please add a category for homebrew skills, I have some ideas that I would like to share. -[[User:Sarrow|Sarrow]] 23:08, 8 February 2009 (MST)<br />
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== Elven Avenger... ==<br />
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I have an elven avenger and I need help on any homebrewing abilities that anyone can think of. Please help, Vega Theren...<br />
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== How do I make an animal? ==<br />
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Ok so i have no clue how to do this but i want to make an Exploding Chicken animal for D20M Apocalypse and all i know is that its a regular chicken that explodes when within 15ft of any nonchaotic for 1d6 damage at a range of 20ft. they have a total health of 3. they also are weak and are just mobile... firecracker i guess would be the best way of puting it. my DM said to just put it on here cause he wants to see what others think. thanks! --[[User:Ozzy1234567890|Ozzy1234567890]] 11:12, 24 January 2011 (MST)<br />
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:What do you mean by make it? There aren't really any rules to govern exploding chickens, so you will pretty much have to make them up yourself. I would say start with a chicken (might have to steal the stats from D&D (if they exist) or create your own), and just add a special quality called Explode. The explosion would probably require a reflex save for half damage (DC = 10 + chicken's Con mod). Probably more more than a CR 1/2 or 1. [[User:Jazzman831|Jazz]][[User talk:Jazzman831|Man]] 19:10, 23 January 2011 (MST)<br />
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== Home brew skill. Craft: Tailoring ==<br />
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Basically what i want to do with this class is enable my players to make stuff like vests, coats, bags, bullet proofs vests, those kinds of things. I have a decent idea of everything but my problem is my mind runs blank when i try to figure out the size encreasments, how much it would weight, and how many TU it would be worth. I also am running out of ideas for which this could be useble too. Please help me with this.<br />
- - Sam Fullerton (Ozzy1234567890's DM)<br />
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:Well, just look at the standard [[MSRD:Craft (Skill)|crafting]] rules and go from there. Every item your players can make need a wealth DC, a craft DC, and a creation time. Technically, tailoring would only be good for items of clothing, most of which your players won't care about. You might expand it to textiles, allowing them to make anything out of cloth. So any cloth armor, back packs, special clothing, and so on would be game. [[User:Jazzman831|Jazz]][[User talk:Jazzman831|Man]] 20:25, 2 February 2011 (MST)<br />
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::We were thinking more like what OTHER people think some of these things should be (the more spacific, the better). That way its more likely to be ballenced and the like. --[[User:Ozzy1234567890|Ozzy1234567890]] 08:09, 3 February 2011 (MST)</div>Ozzy1234567890https://www.dandwiki.com/w/index.php?title=Talk:D20_Modern&diff=505579Talk:D20 Modern2011-02-03T15:05:50Z<p>Ozzy1234567890: /* Home brew skill. Craft: Tailoring */</p>
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<div>== Phoenix v0.1 == <br />
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I have a free d20 Modern expansion pack that I've been working on. It's a superhero system, the goal of which is to maintain total d20 compatibility and be an expansion pack, not a standalone product. You can find it here (http://members.shaw.ca/orionuk/Phoenix.v0.1.pdf). There are seven chapters. <br />
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Ch1 "Building a Hero" (character creation). <br />
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Ch2 "Classes" (superhero classes, built on the D&D model)<br />
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Ch3 "Skills" (the d20 Modern skills, arranged by class)<br />
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Ch4 "Feats" (a complete list of all D&D and d20 Modern feats, with some Psionic feats thrown in, and 40+ pages of original feats)<br />
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Ch5 "Powers" (50+ pages of superhero-style powers, from Flight to Extra Limbs to Webbing)<br />
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Ch6 "Combat and Movement" (fighting with superstrength, swinging, fighting in zero-G)<br />
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Ch7 "Running the Game" (the GMing chapter, notes on superheroes as a genre, tips on running any RPG)<br />
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Please feel free to download the game! It's a hobby project. If you email the address listed in the Introduction, I will send you any and all updates to the system that I make in the future. Updates come out every six weeks or so, or when I feel like avoiding my dissertation.<br />
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== Please ==<br />
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Please add a section for Advanced Classes. Modern class structure follows the order of:<br />
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* Base Class<br />
* Advanced Class<br />
* Prestige Class<br />
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Advanced Classes are 10 levels, Prestige Classes are 5 levels. Base classes do not change often, though there have been (a couple) variant base classes created. The most customization of classes takes place in Advanced Classes. ~ ShadoStahker, WotC Modern board member<br />
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:I added it, thank you for telling me that. I do not play D20 Modern often, so...<br />
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::No problem, thanks for putting it up. I know a couple people on the WotC boards are also interested in a NPCs section (may be a good idea for the D&D part too). As well, there may be interest in a "talent trees" section for fan-made base class talent trees (if you aren't familiar, they're similar to class-specific feat trees, for base classes only). ~ ShadoStahker<br />
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:::NPCs... There's a link to such a wiki here: http://d20npcs.wikicities.com/wiki/D20_Modern_NPCs_by_Challenge_Rating<br />
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::::Actually, there's DnD NPCs there as well. --[[User:PsiSeveredHead|PsiSeveredHead]] 21:26, 15 February 2006 (MST) WotC board member<br />
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== Hello ==<br />
My name is [[User:Wolfen Fenrison|Wolfen]] , some of you may remember me from the WotC boards, anyway I'm the admid for the D20 modern section so any questions or requests can be directed at me, thank you.<br />
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:Hey Wolfen. The only thing I can think of is a "Talent Trees" section. I personally don't use expanded talent trees, but I know some do. They may fit under "Variant Rules", though. Also, the main page is now unlocked. I don't know if you'd want to lock it again, but I'd assume so. ~ ShadoStahker<br />
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::You are correct expanded talent trees should go under varient rules -Wolfen<br />
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== Hi ==<br />
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This is blackknight5k from the wotc boards, how's it going? Anyways, I was thinking that it might be a good idea to more organize d20 modern with something like "d20 past, d20 modern, d20 future" because I know no one likes to go through d20 past stuff to get to a new mecha, or something like that. It might not be a problem now, but it might become a little cluttered if this wiki takes off.<br />
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:neccesity... as of late i hae become rather busy, finding a job, kingdom hearts 2, important stuff like that. but maby latter this week the d20 modern page will get a major update. as for sections for past and future, submissions should be marked for modern, past, or future. - Wolfen<br />
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::Em Back... Well the update I promised is done, and I updated my campaign setting, it is good to see all the material has been posted since green dragon and I concived this section and then handed it over to me. My hope is that as this game grows and evolves community support and creativity will grow as well, and remember the only stupid idea is the one not acted upon. - Wolfen<br />
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:::I agree with ''blackknight5k'' we need to break down d20 Modern into d20 Past, d20 Modern, d20 Future, and most all d20 Apocalypse. These variations are core to d20 Modern and if they sub-catagories are implemented now it will stop confusion in the future. -- [[User:Sepsis|Sepsis]] 18:15, 7 February 2007 (MST)<br />
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::::I say okay, lets do it. However, before anything else, all the D20 Past need to be part of [[:Category:D20 Past]], all the D20 Modern need to be a part of [[:Category:D20 Modern]], etc. When this is done the change will be easy. --[[User:Green Dragon|Green Dragon]] 19:15, 7 February 2007 (MST)<br />
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:::::The category right now is D20M for modern stuff. It would be easy enough to use D20P for past, D20F for future, and D20A for apocalypse. And the shorthand would be kept. Do we want to do it this way or the longer way (spelling out modern, past, etc.)? I personally prefer the shorthand... --[[User:EldritchNumen|EldritchNumen]] 02:03, 9 February 2007 (MST)<br />
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::::::Shorthand. When I posted that I did not think of good "Shorthands" so I just wrote them long. Good thinking and the Shorthands should be used. --[[User:Green Dragon|Green Dragon]] 12:40, 11 February 2007 (MST)<br />
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== Keep em coming guys ==<br />
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I'm very pleased with the amount of matirial that is getting posted (the oil elemental is very sweet), I'm working on more stuff my self but job huntinh has priority right now. -Wolfen<br />
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== Categories ==<br />
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Are there any D20 modern categories? Virtually none of the pages have categories or "return to" bars. I'll start to add some, but I need to know what categories there are and (if there are none) what should be made (besides the obvious: D20 modern feats, classes, etc.). Help? --[[User:EldritchNumen|EldritchNumen]] 14:50, 18 December 2006 (MST)<br />
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:To be honest, I really don't care that much about D20M. I don't play it, and I only added it to this site as an afterthought. So... when a new item is posted, or when the D&D section of D&D Wiki changes, I do not change the D20M section to reflect the D&D change. This section is a ''very'' primitive version of the D&D section. If you would like, go ahead and update it, and try to make it like the D&D section. If you have any questions of what categories are correct for what please feel free to ask me. --[[User:Green Dragon|Green Dragon]] 15:55, 18 December 2006 (MST)<br />
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== Admin Cat change... ==<br />
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Could an admin please change the category of this page from "D20Modern" to "D20 Modern". The second category will be the one used for all the D20 Modern pages. Thanks! --[[User:EldritchNumen|EldritchNumen]] 03:49, 19 December 2006 (MST)<br />
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:I changed the category; but not to what you wanted. I think all D20M material should be under D20M category, not D20 Modern. I changed it to reflect this. Will this work for your modernization of [[D20 Modern]]? Now for the reason: In the begginging of the D&D section of this site, all the cateories were [[:Category:Dungeons and Dragons]], and as the D&D seciton changed all the categories became [[:Category:DnD]] (Even though many are still part of [[:Category:Dungeons and Dragons]]). So, since you are bringing this up to date, all the categories should be brought up to date. I hope I made sense... --[[User:Green Dragon|Green Dragon]] 15:02, 19 December 2006 (MST)<br />
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== Updating Check Boxes ==<br />
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I changed the equipment splash page. It can have a green check mark now. I'll fix up the rest in the coming days. ''':)''' --[[User:EldritchNumen|EldritchNumen]] 02:00, 9 February 2007 (MST)<br />
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:Feats now, also. --[[User:EldritchNumen|EldritchNumen]] 03:35, 10 February 2007 (MST)<br />
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::And Races and FX Abilities. All have been updated to mirror the DnD pages. --[[User:EldritchNumen|EldritchNumen]] 03:45, 10 February 2007 (MST)<br />
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:::For the classes description on this page, the "and NPC..." should be removed. There are not NPC classes in D20 Modern. --[[User:EldritchNumen|EldritchNumen]] 21:04, 10 February 2007 (MST)<br />
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::::Okay... <br />
::::*Classes<br />
::::**<strike>The actual pages need a dlpc header so they show up on the "With Descriptions" pages</strike><br />
::::**<strike>Since the MSRD has been added all the MSRD classes need to be linked to here just like [[DnD Classes]].</strike><br />
::::**the "By type" pages need to be made with dlpcu's.<br />
::::*Equipment<br />
::::**This needs to be like [[DnD Equipment]] with the table (maybe?).<br />
::::*Feats<br />
::::**Shouldn't these be organized into general categories than put into wikitables (like [[DnD Feats]])?<br />
::::*FX Abilities<br />
::::**They need to be broken up by class than (so it is ''more'' advanced than [[DnD Feats]]) into dpl's by level.<br />
::::*Races<br />
::::**There must be a LA page; an all page, and the LA pages should include a dplcu list (like LA 6 races on [[3.5e Races]]). Also, this page needs to look like [[3.5e Races]] when done (LA on the side with links to other places throughout). <br />
::::This is all I can think of now, and I am sorry if this is a lot (I left all the harder ones to be done later ''':)'''). If you want help ask and I will be more than willing to help. --[[User:Green Dragon|Green Dragon]] 13:08, 11 February 2007 (MST)<br />
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:::::I'm going to put off working on the equipment and FX Abilities for now, since there is almost no content there. It can be updated later, if necessary. For now the simply DPLC lists I've implemented should work. Classes is first up for work; I'm actually finally getting there on some of the things to do. Next up will be races and, as I go, fixing all the tables into the "d20" class (I'm doing this as I go, for the most part). --[[User:EldritchNumen|EldritchNumen]] 02:04, 13 February 2007 (MST)<br />
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::::::Okay. So far classes looks better than before. Good work so far. --[[User:Green Dragon|Green Dragon]] 22:04, 13 February 2007 (MST)<br />
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== Checklist of Updates and Revisions ==<br />
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# Add preload functions:<br />
#*<s>[[D20 Modern Character Optimizations]]</s><br />
#*<s>[[D20 Modern Classes]]</s><br />
#*<s>[[D20 Modern Feats]]</s><br />
#*[[D20 Modern Races]]<br />
#*[[D20 Modern Creatures]]<br />
#*[[D20 Modern NPCs]]<br />
# D20 Modern Classes:<br />
#*<s> Add dplcus for classes by type.</s><br />
#* <s>Make the MSRD links link to ''only'' the class type in question with their own dlp page while not linking to [[Classes (MSRD)]].</s><br />
# Update all tables to d20 class.<br />
# <s>Update all categories to newest system.</s><br />
# Change all the pages to the formatting used in the preload (the very old pages are just haphazardly thrown together, and it doesn't look very professional).<br />
# Make a D20 Modern specific creature template (with Massive Damage Threshold, etc.).<br />
# Major overhaul of [[D20 Modern Races]]; it needs to look like the DnD version, with LA categories, an "All" page, etc.<br />
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::This is mainly just for me, and will grow as other important things come up. But feel free to add things if they come up. &mdash;[[User:EldritchNumen|EldritchNumen]] 17:03, 20 February 2007 (MST)<br />
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:::Some of this is going to be a pain to do without the ability to edit the MSRD. For example, the categories should be renamed, and the pages need to be split (there needs to be just a MSRD:Basic Classes page, that has the category "Basic Class (MSRD)", etc. Otherwise setting up some of the pages, such as the class splash page, can't be done with any sort of efficiency or order (see 2B above about classes, for example)... --[[User:EldritchNumen|EldritchNumen]] 15:13, 21 February 2007 (MST)<br />
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::::Hm... All I can say is ask Dmilewski as he is in charge of the MSRD ''or'' just go for an RfA. --[[User:Green Dragon|Green Dragon]] 11:43, 22 February 2007 (MST)<br />
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:::::I removed all the checks and x's from the page, primarily to make it look better. Is this okay? I figured I know pretty well what still has to be updated, and I'm keeping a running list here, so we don't need to clutter the home page with it... what do you think? &mdash;[[User:EldritchNumen|EldritchNumen]] 00:06, 9 March 2007 (MST)<br />
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::::::I only speak for myself however it should be okay. Since you have taken over D20M I am sure you know what needs to be done. Removing the X's is a good move so visitors understand their is content even though X's used to be their. --[[User:Green Dragon|Green Dragon]] 10:48, 9 March 2007 (MST)<br />
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== Homebrew Occupations? ==<br />
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Please do add a category for homebrew occupations, I have some I'd like to share. [[User:81.233.196.49|81.233.196.49]] 04:31, 1 June 2008 (MDT)<br />
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:Done. Enjoy! ''':)''' &mdash;[[User:EldritchNumen|EldritchNumen]] 13:27, 2 June 2008 (MDT)<br />
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==Homebrew to-do list==<br />
We definitely need to sort out the re organisation of the classes at least... --[[User:Sabre070|Sabre070]] 16:05, 14 November 2008 (MST)<br />
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== Add Homebrew Skills? ==<br />
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Please add a category for homebrew skills, I have some ideas that I would like to share. -[[User:Sarrow|Sarrow]] 23:08, 8 February 2009 (MST)<br />
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== Elven Avenger... ==<br />
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I have an elven avenger and I need help on any homebrewing abilities that anyone can think of. Please help, Vega Theren...<br />
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== How do I make an animal? ==<br />
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Ok so i have no clue how to do this but i want to make an Exploding Chicken animal for D20M Apocalypse and all i know is that its a regular chicken that explodes when within 15ft of any nonchaotic for 1d6 damage at a range of 20ft. they have a total health of 3. they also are weak and are just mobile... firecracker i guess would be the best way of puting it. my DM said to just put it on here cause he wants to see what others think. thanks! --[[User:Ozzy1234567890|Ozzy1234567890]] 11:12, 24 January 2011 (MST)<br />
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:What do you mean by make it? There aren't really any rules to govern exploding chickens, so you will pretty much have to make them up yourself. I would say start with a chicken (might have to steal the stats from D&D (if they exist) or create your own), and just add a special quality called Explode. The explosion would probably require a reflex save for half damage (DC = 10 + chicken's Con mod). Probably more more than a CR 1/2 or 1. [[User:Jazzman831|Jazz]][[User talk:Jazzman831|Man]] 19:10, 23 January 2011 (MST)<br />
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== Home brew skill. Craft: Tailoring ==<br />
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Basically what i want to do with this class is enable my players to make stuff like vests, coats, bags, bullet proofs vests, those kinds of things. I have a decent idea of everything but my problem is my mind runs blank when i try to figure out the size encreasments, how much it would weight, and how many TU it would be worth. I also am running out of ideas for which this could be useble too. Please help me with this.<br />
- - Sam Fullerton (Ozzy1234567890's DM)<br />
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:Well, just look at the standard [[MSRD:Craft (Skill)|crafting]] rules and go from there. Every item your players can make need a wealth DC, a craft DC, and a creation time. Technically, tailoring would only be good for items of clothing, most of which your players won't care about. You might expand it to textiles, allowing them to make anything out of cloth. So any cloth armor, back packs, special clothing, and so on would be game. [[User:Jazzman831|Jazz]][[User talk:Jazzman831|Man]] 20:25, 2 February 2011 (MST)</div>Ozzy1234567890https://www.dandwiki.com/w/index.php?title=User:Ozzy1234567890&diff=504488User:Ozzy12345678902011-01-26T15:02:53Z<p>Ozzy1234567890: </p>
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<div>Hey, this is Ozzy! No, not Ozzy Osbourne. I am a Jack-of-all-Trades, so to speek, in real life. In D&D, I am a Fast Hero Spider Rider in D20 Apoclypse. Not much else to say so I guess I better get back to my studies!<br />
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'''Resources for beginers<nowiki>:</nowiki>'''<br />
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[[MSRD:Creature_Types|Base Stats for Creatures]]<br />
[[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Help:Editing|Wiki Editing Tricks]]<br />
[[Template:D20M_Creature|Definitions]]</div>Ozzy1234567890https://www.dandwiki.com/w/index.php?title=Talk:Main_Page&diff=504487Talk:Main Page2011-01-26T14:21:42Z<p>Ozzy1234567890: /* The Tavern */</p>
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== Anti Wiki Criticism ==<br />
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This is the most useful Wiki I have ever found on D&D, (and I've seen a LOT of on-line references). I am currently running an adventure and I keep this site open on my lap-top as I play. It saves me a great deal of time and speeds up play considerably. I almost never even open my Monster Manual anymore.<br />
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Kudos to the WebMaster. --[[User:Gildavinor|Gildavinor]] 18:13, 25 September 2009 (MDT)<br />
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:I agree very strongly with you, Gild! Though I didn't sign in very often previously, I absolutely adore this Wiki. It's the pinnacle of Dungeons and Dragons research and innovation. --[[User:Harry Mason|Harry Mason]] 18:42, 25 September 2009 (MDT)<br />
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::Taking sides in any instance is a bad idea... Neutrality is a great observational instrument if one is not affiliated therein. --[[User:Green Dragon|Green Dragon]] 21:51, 25 September 2009 (MDT)<br />
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:::Totally agree. --[[User:Lord Mattos|Lord Mattos]] 11:14, 29 November 2009 (MST)<br />
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== Two Millionth View! ==<br />
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Looks like today was [[Special:Statistics|the day]] folks! 2 million views on the main page! &nbsp;<small><span style="border: 1px solid black; -moz-border-radius:10px">[[User:Hooper|'''<span style="background-color:White; color:Black; -moz-border-radius-topleft:10px; -moz-border-radius-bottomleft:10px"> Hooper </span>''']][[User talk:Hooper|<span style="background-color:Black; color:white; -moz-border-radius-bottomleft:10px; -moz-border-radius-topleft:10px">&nbsp;&nbsp;talk&nbsp;&nbsp;</span>]][[Special:Contributions/Hooper|<span style="background-color:black; color:white">&nbsp;&nbsp;contribs&nbsp;&nbsp;</span>]][[Special:Emailuser/Hooper|<span style="background-color:black; color:white; -moz-border-radius-bottomright:10px; -moz-border-radius-topright:10px">&nbsp;&nbsp;email&nbsp;&nbsp;</span>]]</span></small> 12:46, 14 October 2009 (MDT)<br />
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:Yeah, now there are 2,299,388 views (Jan. 13,2010)! Wohoo! --[[User:Io|Io]] 16:52, 13 January 2010<br />
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And now, in the november of 2011, we have 3,080,184 views!<br />
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== Size ==<br />
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how many Megabytes is this whole site? {{Unsigned|216.12.83.73|22:29, 15 November 2009 (MDT)}}<br />
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:Why? --[[User:Green Dragon|Green Dragon]] 23:40, 15 November 2009 (MST)<br />
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::I was thinking of copying the source code so i cant look at it offline--[[User:Lo-Chi|Lt.Dan]] 07:20, 16 November 2009 (MST)<br />
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:::You don't need the size of D&D Wiki as a whole when looking at the source code ("''View Page Source''" for Mozilla Firefox). --[[User:Green Dragon|Green Dragon]] 12:12, 16 November 2009 (MST)<br />
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== The Tavern ==<br />
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After a huge hiatus I'm finally back to D&D Wiki (and happy to return!) following a long period of being almost broke. I notice that the Tavern, which was gone when I first had to go...still isn't back. That was one of my favorite parts of the Wiki, and I hope I'm just being stupid and missing it somewhere. Is it gone for good? --[[User:Harry Mason|Harry Mason]] 07:07, 4 February 2010 (UTC)<br />
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:It actually was discontinued. There is no "official" reason as to now however take a look at [[Discussion:The Tavern: use, expansion, and availability.]]. The main reason is "''...it is quite childish and immature at times and I feel at times it decreases the seriousness of D&D Wiki with childish behavior and immaturity.''" [[User:Green Dragon|Green Dragon]] "Discussion:The Tavern: use, expansion, and availability." 21:02, 20 November 2009 (MST). --[[User:Green Dragon|Green Dragon]] 22:07, 4 February 2010 (UTC)<br />
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::Ah...oh well. That's a little sad to me, but I can see the reasoning behind it, it -was- rather vulgar at times. Thank you for replying. :) --[[User:Harry Mason|Harry Mason]] 01:49, 5 February 2010 (UTC)<br />
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:::I'm coming back too and I too liked the tavern... I agree with the reasoning, but I still think we should have an effective way of conversation, since a wiki is not the best tool for talking...<br>Isn't there something that could be implemented in the place of the tavern (and maybe have some rules as to swearing and misbehaviour, making disrespectful users suspended/banned from using it)?--[[User:ElfsMaster|ElfsMaster]] 10:49, 5 February 2010 (UTC)<br />
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::::But this '''is''' a wiki, and by not having the sidetrack of a chat users may tend to rely more on the already established discussion tool. Or they can leave messages on talk pages of other users. It actually encourages the opening of discussions and talks between users on the wiki - which can lead to more wiki additions and improvements, instead of just idle chatter. &nbsp;<small><span style="border: 1px solid black; -moz-border-radius:10px">[[User:Hooper|'''<span style="background-color:White; color:Black; -moz-border-radius-topleft:10px; -moz-border-radius-bottomleft:10px"> Hooper </span>''']][[User talk:Hooper|<span style="background-color:Black; color:white; -moz-border-radius-bottomleft:10px; -moz-border-radius-topleft:10px">&nbsp;&nbsp;talk&nbsp;&nbsp;</span>]][[Special:Contributions/Hooper|<span style="background-color:black; color:white">&nbsp;&nbsp;contribs&nbsp;&nbsp;</span>]][[Special:Emailuser/Hooper|<span style="background-color:black; color:white; -moz-border-radius-bottomright:10px; -moz-border-radius-topright:10px">&nbsp;&nbsp;email&nbsp;&nbsp;</span>]]</span></small> 14:07, 5 February 2010 (UTC)<br />
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:::::Appealing to people in real time is more effective than doing so passively, from what I've found. Also, just because serious discussion does not happen constantly doesn't mean it never does. I understand that a decision has been made however, so that's all I'll say on the matter. -- [[User:Jota|Jota]] 14:20, 5 February 2010 (UTC)<br />
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::::::Why not do something like what facebook has and when a user is logged in, they have a little chat bar? i know there are a lot of difficulties with that, including having "friends lists" and the like, but its an idea. --[[User:Ozzy1234567890|Ozzy1234567890]] 07:21, 26 January 2011 (MST)<br />
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== Search Incapacitation ==<br />
The search function has been completely nonfunctional for me for a good few days, maybe half a week or more now. Once in a while I'll nail to a T an article's name, and it'll transport me there. Just hitting Search or mistyping anything causes it to utterly fail for me. Is this just a localized problem (which I don't think it is, I've used 3 different computers to try and access it, all were on different networks) or what's going on? --[[User:Harry Mason|Harry Mason]] 05:08, 26 February 2010 (UTC)<br />
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:Is it actually giving you an error, or just pulling up the extended/advanced search function ''(which is normal when you don't type an article name perfectly)''?. &nbsp;<small><span style="border: 1px solid black; -moz-border-radius:10px">[[User:Hooper|'''<span style="background-color:White; color:Black; -moz-border-radius-topleft:10px; -moz-border-radius-bottomleft:10px"> Hooper </span>''']][[User talk:Hooper|<span style="background-color:Black; color:white; -moz-border-radius-bottomleft:10px; -moz-border-radius-topleft:10px">&nbsp;&nbsp;talk&nbsp;&nbsp;</span>]][[Special:Contributions/Hooper|<span style="background-color:black; color:white">&nbsp;&nbsp;contribs&nbsp;&nbsp;</span>]][[Special:Emailuser/Hooper|<span style="background-color:black; color:white; -moz-border-radius-bottomright:10px; -moz-border-radius-topright:10px">&nbsp;&nbsp;email&nbsp;&nbsp;</span>]]</span></small> 13:28, 26 February 2010 (UTC)<br />
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::I'm having the same issues, the message "Query failed: connection to localhost:3312 failed (errno=111, msg=Connection refused)" appears when I try to search for something.<br />
::I'm having a similar problem, mainly in that I can't browse things, I can only see things when I search for them, which, makes looking at the diffrent races, quite difficult [[User:Sevant|Sevant]] 18:23, 5 July 2010 (UTC)<br />
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:::Search is working once again. --[[User:Green Dragon|Green Dragon]] 12:14, 22 August 2010 (MDT)<br />
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== Official Content Designation ==<br />
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Could a homebrew template be added? I keep coming here after a Google search and I keep finding overpowered homebrew things (like [[Paragon_of_Light/Darkness_%283.5e_Prestige_Class%29]]) and it usually takes me a moment to figure out that it's not official, just something some random person made up. I'd prefer to see some sort of note to that effect at the top of the page. [[User:Banaticus|Banaticus]] 02:57, 21 May 2010 (UTC)<br />
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:Ummm... A template is already added on all official pages. This is a homebrew site, so all articles are automatically assumed to be homebrew unless they are specified otherwise.--[[User:Vrail|Vrail]] 03:10, 21 May 2010 (UTC)<br />
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::There already is a homebrew template. Look down at the bottom of that page you linked... see where it says "{{DnD Classes Breadcrumb}} &rarr; [[DnD Prestige Classes|Prestige Classes]]"? "Homebrew" is even in the wording of the template. If you are looking for ONLY SRD material then look for pages starting with "SRD:". They will all have OGL templates as well.<br />
::Additionally, much of our homebrew content has ratings by other users, so you should know right away if it's overpowered. [[User:Jazzman831|Jazz]][[User talk:Jazzman831|Man]] 14:39, 21 May 2010 (UTC)<br />
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== Pictures Down? ==<br />
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While it might be my computer, it appears that something happened to the pictures on the site. They don't seem to be displaying. Am I wrong? Was there an announcement that I missed? [[User:Noname|Aristocles]] 05:20, 4 June 2010 (UTC)<br />
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:This question was already brought up on GD's talk page under [[User talk:Green Dragon#Images lost again|this header]]. However no clear answer was given by GD. All I know is that no, it is not your computer, and no there was no announcement. The pictures still exist on the media repository, however they are not linking properly. --[[User:Vrail|Vrail]] 13:05, 4 June 2010 (UTC)<br />
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::Images have been fixed. --[[User:Green Dragon|Green Dragon]] 12:12, 22 August 2010 (MDT)<br />
Are you sure? I dont see any- ANYWHERE!!!<br />
[[User:DragonFist|DragonFist]] 20:13, 17 December 2010 (MST)<br />
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== Marking a page as homebrew ==<br />
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How do we mark a page as homebrew? Take [Alon (3.5e Deity)] for instance. It turns out he's a homebrew god, although I don't see that anywhere on the page. It's sometimes difficult to tell the difference on this wiki between homebrew things and official things. [[Special:Contributions/97.93.94.242|97.93.94.242]] 12:42, 24 August 2010 (MDT)<br />
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:Any properly-created page should have a clear breadcrumb at the bottom of the page which leads back to a homebrew page. In addition any user-created content belongs in [[:Category:User]]. [[User:Jazzman831|Jazz]][[User talk:Jazzman831|Man]] 13:22, 27 August 2010 (MDT)<br />
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::You can also just click "3.5e Open Game Content" on the sidebar to take you to the "official" material. Almost everything on this site is homebrew. Because of that, what we do is mark pages that are official. If you don't see a template that says "Open Game Content", then the page you are viewing is essentially guaranteed to be homebrew content. --[[User:Badger|Badger]] 14:24, 27 August 2010 (MDT)<br />
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== 3 Million View ==<br />
Just a quick pat on the back, as per Statistics the main page has hit 3 million views. Too bad our news is months behind. &nbsp;<small><span style="border: 1px solid black; -moz-border-radius:10px">[[User:Hooper|'''<span style="background-color:White; color:Black; -moz-border-radius-topleft:10px; -moz-border-radius-bottomleft:10px"> Hooper </span>''']][[User talk:Hooper|<span style="background-color:Black; color:white; -moz-border-radius-bottomleft:10px; -moz-border-radius-topleft:10px">&nbsp;&nbsp;talk&nbsp;&nbsp;</span>]][[Special:Contributions/Hooper|<span style="background-color:black; color:white">&nbsp;&nbsp;contribs&nbsp;&nbsp;</span>]][[Special:Emailuser/Hooper|<span style="background-color:black; color:white; -moz-border-radius-bottomright:10px; -moz-border-radius-topright:10px">&nbsp;&nbsp;email&nbsp;&nbsp;</span>]]</span></small> 22:46, 3 January 2011 (MST)<br />
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== Advice on Creating Animal ==<br />
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Ok so i have no clue how to do this but i want to make an Exploding Chicken animal for D20M and all i know is that its a regular chicken that explodes when within 15ft of any nonchaotic for 1d6 damage at a range of 20ft. they have a total health of 3. they also are weak and are just mobile... firecracker i guess would be the best way of puting it. my DM said to just put it on here cause he wants to see what others think. thanks! *EDIT* i ment D20M Apocolypse<br />
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:I can't give you mechanical help with creating your creature, but I can give you wiki help. Go [[Add_a_New_D20M_Creature|here]] and replace "CreatureName" with "Exploding Chicken" or whatever you want to name it. Leave a space and (D20 Modern Creature) after the name, and then press "Create New Creature". It will take you to a page with a pre-load designed for creatures in the d20M universe (I don't know if that is the same as d20M Apocalypse, is it?). Like I said, I don't know anything about the d20M system, so I can't help you write your creature and balance it, but if you need help with tables or other wiki formatting, leave a message on my talk page. One last thing, don't forget to sign your posts by typing <nowiki> --~~~~ </nowiki>. --[[User:Badger|Badger]] 13:44, 21 January 2011 (MST)<br />
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::Thanks! and its pretty much the same as other systems. and i guess i ment that i needed tables for things like different sizes and their modifiers and things like that --[[User:Ozzy1234567890|Ozzy1234567890]] 10:54, 24 January 2011 (MST)</div>Ozzy1234567890https://www.dandwiki.com/w/index.php?title=User:Ozzy1234567890&diff=504437User:Ozzy12345678902011-01-25T18:10:53Z<p>Ozzy1234567890: </p>
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<div>Hey, this is Ozzy! No, not Ozzy Osbourne. I am a Jack-of-all-Trades, so to speek, in real life. In D&D, I am a Fast Hero Spider Rider in D20 Apoclypse. Not much else to say so I guess I better get back to my studies!<br />
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'''Resources for beginers:'''<br />
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[[MSRD:Creature_Types|Base Stats for Creatures]]<br />
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[[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Help:Editing|Wiki Editing Tricks]]</div>Ozzy1234567890https://www.dandwiki.com/w/index.php?title=User:Ozzy1234567890&diff=504435User:Ozzy12345678902011-01-25T18:08:04Z<p>Ozzy1234567890: </p>
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<div>Hey, this is Ozzy! No, not Ozzy Osbourne. I am a Jack-of-all-Trades, so to speek, in real life. In D&D, I am a Fast Hero Spider Rider in D20 Apoclypse. Not much else to say so I guess I better get back to my studies!<br />
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[[MSRD:Creature_Types|Base Stats for Creatures]]<br />
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[[Help:Editing|Wiki Editing Tricks]]</div>Ozzy1234567890https://www.dandwiki.com/w/index.php?title=User:Ozzy1234567890&diff=504434User:Ozzy12345678902011-01-25T18:03:12Z<p>Ozzy1234567890: </p>
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<div>Hey, this is Ozzy! No, not Ozzy Osbourne. I am a Jack-of-all-Trades, so to speek, in real life. In D&D, I am a Fast Hero Spider Rider in D20 Apoclypse. Not much else to say so I guess I better get back to my studies!<br />
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[[MSRD:Creature_Types|Base Stats for Creatures]]</div>Ozzy1234567890https://www.dandwiki.com/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Badger&diff=504433User talk:Badger2011-01-25T17:53:12Z<p>Ozzy1234567890: /* Creating an Animal */</p>
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<div>{{Anti-Vandal Barnstar|For your help with finding vandal's edits, removing vandal's work, and helping keep D&D Wiki clean, I give you this Barnstar. Thanks for your help. --[[User:Green Dragon|Green Dragon]] 11:06, 4 November 2010 (MDT)}}<br />
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== MoI ==<br />
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Since you commented on [[Category_talk:Candidates_for_Deletion#Idea_for_half-completed_pages|this discussion]], I'm letting you know that I think we've reached working version of the Abandoned template. Let me know what you think. [[User:Jazzman831|Jazz]][[User talk:Jazzman831|Man]] 18:51, 6 May 2010 (UTC)<br />
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==Tavern Mockup==<br />
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For your [[User:Badger/sandbox1|tavern mockup]] I was thinking, you may want to add another rule similar to 'All administrators have the right to remove or block you from the tavern for breaking any previously listed rule'. Thoughts? --[[User:Vrail|Vrail]] 04:07, 8 June 2010 (UTC)<br />
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==Templates List==<br />
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Sorry about changing your sandbox, guess I should have asked you to do it. Basically I have spent a tun of time cleaning out every single article in the wording issues section on the meta pages, and your template is linking to the category adding a page there that I can't remove. So I was just changing your workspace so it didn't show up there. To bad it didn't work for some reason... ''':(''' --[[User:Vrail|Vrail]] 05:00, 8 June 2010 (UTC)<br />
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:It's ok. I tried to do the same thing, and it didn't work. I have a new plan, but it is a hack-job of coding. If I can't figure out a way to use the noinclude tags I'll use it. --[[User:Badger|Badger]] 05:03, 8 June 2010 (UTC)<br />
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::You could copy and paste what is on the actual template pages, could you not? --[[User:Vrail|Vrail]] 05:13, 8 June 2010 (UTC)<br />
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:::That's the gross fix. I'm implementing it now. It's working for all of them except abandoned. I think there is something inherently wrong that that page though... --[[User:Badger|Badger]] 05:15, 8 June 2010 (UTC)<br />
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::::Lol, thanks for fixing that for me. I know a fair bit of wiki coding, but when noinclude wasn't working I was getting a little bit worried. ''':P''' --[[User:Vrail|Vrail]] 05:26, 8 June 2010 (UTC)<br />
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:::::noinclude is the best idea that never works, or so my experience would suggest. --[[User:Badger|Badger]] 05:28, 8 June 2010 (UTC)<br />
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::::::Hey, it wasn't my template, it was your text! I fixed it :). The only other templates I could think of are the breadcrumb templates, but those might be too complicated for a beginner's guide. [[User:Jazzman831|Jazz]][[User talk:Jazzman831|Man]] 22:08, 8 June 2010 (UTC)<br />
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:::::::I figured breadcrumbs probably warrant a page of their own, they're pretty complex. The goal of this page, in my opinion, is to introduce templates that are content-based, not to teach template basics. Perhaps I should re-title the page, or clarify that somehow... --[[User:Badger|Badger]] 22:16, 8 June 2010 (UTC)<br />
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== Adding the Correct Indicator ==<br />
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In your edit summary for your page move you said you were adding the correct indicator. I just wanted to make a side note and say, its called a tag. Just for future reference when people are talking about tags. ''':)''' Then again maybe you knew that and were just being different. In that case... completely ignore everything I just said and keep up the good work. ''':D''' --[[User:Vrail|Vrail]] 21:50, 16 June 2010 (UTC)<br />
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== New Users Guide ==<br />
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I left a comment on the talk page for the new users guide that you are making, however seeing as it has been neerly a week since I posted it and I've heard no response, I was just posting here to make sure you had noticed it. I would tell you my comment here, but that would seem a little bit redundent as it is already posted [[User talk:Badger/sandbox3|here]]. ''':)''' --[[User:Vrail|Vrail]] 17:55, 26 June 2010 (UTC)<br />
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== Question ==<br />
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Um Badger? To I have to connect my [[Proto Buster (4e Future Equipment)]] with my [[D&D 4.0 Future (4e Sourcebook)|sourcebook?]]<br />
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--[[User:Axl|Axl]] 00:56, 8 July 2010 (UTC)<br />
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:Not necessarily. I'd include a link to it under the future equipment page, but you don't have to include it under the 4e Sourcebook namespace. I'd leave it as just "Protobuster (4e Equipment)". Hope this helps. --[[User:Badger|Badger]] 01:10, 8 July 2010 (UTC)<br />
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::Okay.<br />
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--[[User:Axl|Axl]] 21:29, 10 July 2010 (UTC)<br />
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== Problem ==<br />
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Can you answer this? So, you know that I'm creating a [[D&D 4.0 Future (4e Sourcebook)|D&D 4.0 Future]] sourcebook. Well, I made a [[Reploid (4e Creature)|creature]] for it in [[D&D 4.0 Future (4e Sourcebook)/Chapter 3: Monsters|Chapter 3: Monsters]], but it doesn't show up on the page. What should I do? --[[User:Axl|Axl]] 23:24, 13 July 2010 (UTC)<br />
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:You had forgotten to add the DPL tables to actually list the content. I went ahead and added them for you. It should work now. --[[User:Badger|Badger]] 23:32, 13 July 2010 (UTC)<br />
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::All right. Thanks. --[[User:Axl|Axl]] 23:36, 13 July 2010 (UTC)<br />
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== Help ==<br />
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Hey Badger, do you mind helping me with my [[D&D 4.0 Future (4e Sourcebook)|sourcebook]]? I could use some help. There's more categories I need to add, I need to finish the equipment (also using the preload that you made). If you could help me with that, that would be great. --[[User:Axl|Axl]] 02:45, 20 July 2010 (UTC)<br />
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:I don't know what you'd want me to do, exactly. I don't know anything about 4e, so I'd not be useful at writing anything. Also, I've never really played much Megaman, so I couldn't even help with that. I don't know of anything I could help with. If you are having issues coding, I could take at look at that, but that's pretty much it. --[[User:Badger|Badger]] 03:04, 20 July 2010 (UTC)<br />
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::Yeah, maybe if you could start changing the DPLs that are not already upgraded (make sure that everything still connects) that would be great. --[[User:Axl|Axl]] 04:19, 21 July 2010 (UTC)<br />
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:::So I don't want to go through and do the grunt work of your sourcebook coding (I have better uses of my free-time, no offense) but if you're having trouble with DPLs, [[User:Badger/sandbox4|this]] link should help clear things up for you. If you're still having trouble with DPLs I can try to teach them to you. Wikipedia, or maybe mediawiki (I can't recall), also has some pretty good tutorials on how to write and use DPLs. --[[User:Badger|Badger]] 06:07, 25 July 2010 (UTC)<br />
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::::Yeah, I know about your DPL thing, I just wanted help. But, that's okay. Oh, by the way, um, I should have thought about it some more, but I found out that I don't really need your 4e add new equipment. Sorry for putting you through the trouble. I really should have thought about it more. But thanks for your help anyway. --[[User:Axl|Axl]] 16:54, 26 July 2010 (UTC)<br />
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:::::Heh heh, um started using the add new equipment thing again. So, yeah. Thanks. --[[User:Axl|Axl]] 22:09, 12 August 2010 (UTC)<br />
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::::::Do you mind if I update it a little? I'm planning to put in where it will automatically show the basic idea on the page before you enter the weapon's link. --[[User:Axl|Axl]] 19:01, 18 August 2010 (MDT)<br />
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:::::::Feel free to do whatever you want to it. I've got no experience with 4e, so I wouldn't know how to improve it. I just mocked it together real fast, I'm sure there are multiple ways you can improve upon it. Have at it! --[[User:Badger|Badger]] 19:27, 18 August 2010 (MDT)<br />
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== Kenseijin ==<br />
Hey badger i just wanted to inform you that the Kenseijin is 99% complete and is being tested in a campaign, let me know what you think of it and ill keep its progress posted, Cheers!!! -[[User:Envoyof aGod|Envoyof_aGod]] 15:08, 4 August 2010 (UTC)<br />
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Just wanted to let you know the Kenseijin is actually kinda hard to play haha, made a few updates to balance them yet but more is still to be seen so ill keep you posted, Cheers!!![[User:Envoyof aGod|Envoyof_aGod]] 13:15, 25 August 2010 (MDT)<br />
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== My RfA ==<br />
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Recently I nominated myself for adminship on the wiki. I don't want to sound like I'm advertising my nomination, however it has been three days without any support or oppose comments. I am just trying to get at least a few people to take notice and comment. My nomination may be found [[Requests for Adminship/Vrail|here]]. Thanks. --[[User:Vrail|Vrail]] 11:16, 18 August 2010 (MDT)<br />
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:I went ahead and weighed in, for what it's worth. You should talk to GD (or any other admin) about getting your nomination on the news feed on the main page. It's protected, so you can't just add it yourself, but that would probably generate a little more activity. --[[User:Badger|Badger]] 14:40, 19 August 2010 (MDT)<br />
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::Yes, thanks for your contributions to my RfA. I will definately contact GD about that and perhaps another admin, as often GD takes a few days to respond to messages on his talk page. ''':)''' --[[User:Vrail|Vrail]] 15:13, 19 August 2010 (MDT)<br />
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==Looking For Group==<br />
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I'm moving soon and it is a distance of immense proportions and I was wondering if you know of anyone in the milwauki area of portland oregon who plays 3.5e and is willing to accept know members. If so leave a not on my talk page or email me at dragoona22@hotmail.com to let me now thx.<br />
--[[User:Dragoona22|Dragoona22]]<br />
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==Also==<br />
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Thx I left a message with hooper also I was wondering if you would look over the 3.5e class I made called the Gaurdian of the Blade. My only problem is I can't the lvls table so if you could help me with that it would be great.<br />
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Thak you that should help emensly.<br />
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== Anti-Vandal Barnstar ==<br />
Thanks! --[[User:Badger|Badger]] 13:42, 6 November 2010 (MDT)<br />
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== Bite and Claw damage? ==<br />
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>.< i need some help i dont know where i would fine a claw and bite table to give the rough attack damage of a large creature with claw and bite. >.< <br />
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Im working on a race that has claws and bites, could you help me. {{Unsigned|Ohgren}}<br />
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:Alright, well, first I need to know a little about your race. Is it humanoid? Should we be basing the claws and bites off of insects, mammals, or dragons, for example? My first instinct is to just check the Claw and Bite damage of dragons, [[SRD:Dragon#Combat|here]]. These will be likely too strong to just pick "large" and transfer that over, but subtracting a size category and using medium stats would probably be fine. I'd recommend a 1d6 for claws, and a d4 for bites, if claws are the primary attack; or a 1d8 bite and 1d4 claws if bite is the primary natural attack. You could go with 1d8/1d6 primary/secondary attacks as well, considering they are large creatures. <br />
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:Edit: It looks like you're going with some sort of big wolf/dog race, so I'd suggest looking at the Monster manual entries for [[SRD:Dire_Lion|Dire Lion]], [[SRD:Dire_Tiger|Dire Tiger]], and [[SRD:Dire_Wolf|Dire Wolf]] for suggested damages, and of course, you can check out the table for bite and claw damage on the page for [[SRD:Lycanthrope#Creating_a_Lycanthrope|lycanthropy]].--[[User:Badger|Badger]] 13:40, 6 November 2010 (MDT)<br />
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::Thanks, Badger. :) <br />
::Wait with the other form shall i give it the dire wolf attack, and then give it for it's normal the lycanthrope since that seems about right for thier damage? {{Unsigned|Ohgren}}<br />
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:::Uh, yeah. That seems pretty reasonable. The bite/claw on the lycanthrope page is for the hybrid form, if I'm not mistaken. Hybrid is the traditional image of "werewolf", which seems very similar to what you've based your race on. I'd say that would be a reasonable decision. --[[User:Badger|Badger]] 17:48, 6 November 2010 (MDT)<br />
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:::: Could you check on my [[Vartexion_(3.5e_Race)|Vartexion]]? Now that I'm finished with it I'd like to know if I need anything else to make it better. My brother Koldron wants to start a New Story with some of these races. Thanks {{Unsigned|Ohgren}}<br />
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:::::I'm going to copy this conversation an leave my new comments on the talk page of your race, which can be found [[Talk:Vartexion_(3.5e_Race)|here]]. --[[User:Badger|Badger]] 18:20, 6 November 2010 (MDT)<br />
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== Did you? ==<br />
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Hey Badger,<br />
:I noticed that my [[Template:4e Form]] got fixed up. I noticed that it was in your style of coding, so I was wondering if you did it. If you did, thanks. I needed help.<br />
:--[[User:Axl|Axl]] 15:16, 15 November 2010 (MST)<br />
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::Nope, after checking the edit history it looks like it was Green Dragon if it wasn't you... --[[User:Badger|Badger]] 15:20, 15 November 2010 (MST)<br />
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:::oh, Okay. --[[User:Axl|Axl]] 16:52, 23 December 2010 (MST)<br />
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== 4e_Magical_Armor Preload ==<br />
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Hey Badger,<br />
:Did you make a 4e_Magical_Armor preload (something along those lines)? If not, it would be nice if you could come up with one.<br />
Thanks,<br />
--[[User:Axl|Axl]] 16:50, 23 December 2010 (MST)<br />
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:I've not made a preload for magical armor. You can probably just use the armor template, as it's just (4e Armor), and write in any magical enhancement bonuses, and include information in the flavor text below the template. That template can be found [[Template:4e_Armor|here]], and there is a preload [[User:Badger/sandbox6|here]]. Let me know if you need anything else. --[[User:Badger|Badger]] 17:46, 23 December 2010 (MST)<br />
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== From Kneja ==<br />
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Hey! I'm new to this site (but incredibly not new to 3.5e) and I needed a friend, you seem to be exactly the kind of person I need (I.e. Awesome) so what say you? Friends and such?<br />
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Also your choice of scoundrelly type characters is a definite plus, as is your dislike of bleeding<br />
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:I don't know what being super special awesome internet friends means, but I'm here if you need any help with the wiki. You can leave a message here, and I'll try to respond quickly (usually within a day). --[[User:Badger|Badger]] 23:17, 31 December 2010 (MST)<br />
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== Thanks! ==<br />
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Hey. This is Dj00345. Thank you for letting me know to put a help section In the discussion page. I have been playing AD&D for a while now, but I am new to this website. I might be making a few more pages that I might need help on. If you would like you can help me work on them. If you would like to, just comment on my talk page. If I get a message from you, then I will send you the names of the pages. I am new to this so I don't know how to link pages. Unless it just doesnt show them on my screen. But thanks again, and remember, if you would like to help me, just leave a comment. Thanks again Badger!<br />
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Dj00345<br />
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== Problem? ==<br />
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Hey badger! You told me to comment on your talk page if I had a question. Well whenever I link something to a page, it shows that page as red, when I already created that page. Can you help me and tell me what to do? --Dj00345<br />
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:Alright, well, it seems what you're doing is just not linking them quite properly. You're typing <nowiki>[[Lord Kray]]</nowiki>, for example, when you should be typing <nowiki>[[Lord Kray_(3.5e_NPC)|Lord Kray]]</nowiki>. The way a link works is like this: <nowiki>[[Name_of_Page|Display Text]]</nowiki>. If you do everything right, it should be blue text, like this: [[Lord Kray_(3.5e_NPC)|Lord Kray]]. I hope that clears things up. --[[User:Badger|Badger]] 18:48, 3 January 2011 (MST)<br />
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It did thanks!<br />
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==Thanks==<br />
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Thanks for the info! Since you said you will chime in, I figure I can just post what I am trying to do on my own talk page. First thing I am working on finishing is a monster/race. I have most of the kinks worked out so far that I have noticed or that my friends have, but you know how it goes. Second is that old problem of a Low Magic Realm or World. I have an idea on how to do it but the only thing I can think of is from either First or Second Edition, and it has been several years since I played either one. Nor do I even have the books to look through anymore. I will now go post what I have for my Monster/Race in my own talk page. I would link it but I'm not sure what the link would be.<br />
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Daryl<br />
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: Hey, I was just looking at your New User Guide and started to wonder a few things. Is there a chance that you can show me a guide or tell me how to code my own user page to be similar to yours? Not exactly similar but as in "About me" and "goals" and such. Thanks again for the help you have given me thus far. [[User:Lyrad8791|Lyrad8791]] 02:04, 4 January 2011 (MST)<br />
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::My first recommendation would be to steal it. In my opinion the best way to learn things is to screw around with it on your own. Just "edit" my user page, copy the text, and close it without changing anything, then go edit your page and paste it in there. Soon enough you'll be able to figure out how to change colors, titles, fonts, and everything else. Other users also have done some different things with their pages, and you might want to check them out to see if you like what they have going on. Some people have their pages set up as if they are a 3.5e Creature/Race. Others just use it as a list of everything they've done. --[[User:Badger|Badger]] 10:11, 4 January 2011 (MST)<br />
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==Creature Creation==<br />
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Hey, I made my creature as best as I can using the template you showed me. For some reason it was not giving me the code usage for the special qualities and such on the basic page so I went and found a page that was using it. From there things seemed to work out. It now has its own page in the Creatures section... not completely sure as to which section since I just pressed add new creature. Anyway, I figured you would like to know how far I have made it, and that if nothing else you will know where to find it. Also, since you mentioned you might chime in and give suggestions and such when you get to look at it. [http://www.dandwiki.com/wiki/Dimidium_Troll_%283.5e_Creature%29 Dimidium Troll] Also it seems that I have figured out how to link into pages as well. You are a good teacher, thanks for the instruction! [[User:Lyrad8791|Lyrad8791]] 22:56, 4 January 2011 (MST)<br />
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==Spam==<br />
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I have left a similar message on Green Dragons Talk page but I figure I should be thorough with this. It seems there are a few Users that are posting spam and doing a redirect for their User page to the mentioned Spam. One instance is this link [[http://www.dandwiki.com/wiki/Best_Electronic_Cigarette_Review here.]] I don't know the procedure for deleting spam so I am asking you and the owner. I was just wondering if I should just mention it and leave be or if I should delete the contents of the page since I don't know how I would delete the page itself. [[User:Lyrad8791|Lyrad8791]] 23:57, 8 January 2011 (MST)<br />
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:Well, the long and the short of it is you shouldn't probably bother to do anything. Only Admin's can totally delete a page. Likewise, only admins can ban a user. Whenever I come across spam, I blank the page, and then add a delete template. After that, I save changes with something like "Delete this spam" in the edit summary. Usually Jazzman is pretty good about catching these and deleting them for real. I don't know the official site policy on users handling spam, but no one has asked me to stop, so I still do it. One thing, however, is to make sure that the page never had any content on it. We don't want to delete a page that once had content, just because it now has spam. Like I said, us users can't do much in the way of permanent change (that's the admin's job), so if you want to turn a blind eye, no one will blame you. However, if you delete a bunch, someone might give you a nifty little barnstar like I have at the top of this page. --[[User:Badger|Badger]] 00:02, 9 January 2011 (MST)<br />
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== Creating an Animal ==<br />
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So... you mentioned something about tables and things like that? i did find what each thing means ( http://www.dandwiki.com/wiki/Template:D20M_Creature ) but what i need is the stuff it lists in the examples please. -[[User:Ozzy1234567890|Ozzy1234567890]] 11:06, 24 January 2011 (MST)<br />
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:Well, [[D20_Modern_Creatures|here]] is a link to every homebrew d20M creature. One of them is bound to have examples of what you need. Jazzman left a comment on one of your messages with some suggestions of how he would do it. You might want to check that out. --[[User:Badger|Badger]] 12:17, 24 January 2011 (MST)<br />
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::Might [[Creature Types (MSRD)#Animal|this]] be what you are looking for? [[User:Jazzman831|Jazz]][[User talk:Jazzman831|Man]] 12:22, 24 January 2011 (MST)<br />
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:::Its exacly what I needed. Thanks for the help! --[[User:Ozzy1234567890|Ozzy1234567890]] 10:53, 25 January 2011 (MST)</div>Ozzy1234567890https://www.dandwiki.com/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Ozzy1234567890&diff=504432User talk:Ozzy12345678902011-01-25T17:49:50Z<p>Ozzy1234567890: /* Creature Creation Advice */</p>
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== Creature Creation Advice ==<br />
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Been searching D&D Wiki for a while now but just got an account. Any tips for creating creatures? like a refferences page of possible sizes and stats and things like that? --[[User:Ozzy1234567890|Ozzy1234567890]] 10:49, 25 January 2011 (MST)<br />
:[[CR Estimation Table (DnD Guideline)]] may help. [[SRD:Creatures]] and [[SRD:Reading Creature Entries]] provide much of your answers as well, and may help too. Let me know if you have other questions, or if these do not answer all your questions. --[[User:Green Dragon|Green Dragon]] 22:19, 24 January 2011 (MST)</div>Ozzy1234567890https://www.dandwiki.com/w/index.php?title=Talk:D20_Modern&diff=504311Talk:D20 Modern2011-01-24T18:12:42Z<p>Ozzy1234567890: /* How do I make an animal? */</p>
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<div>== Phoenix v0.1 == <br />
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I have a free d20 Modern expansion pack that I've been working on. It's a superhero system, the goal of which is to maintain total d20 compatibility and be an expansion pack, not a standalone product. You can find it here (http://members.shaw.ca/orionuk/Phoenix.v0.1.pdf). There are seven chapters. <br />
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Ch1 "Building a Hero" (character creation). <br />
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Ch2 "Classes" (superhero classes, built on the D&D model)<br />
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Ch3 "Skills" (the d20 Modern skills, arranged by class)<br />
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Ch4 "Feats" (a complete list of all D&D and d20 Modern feats, with some Psionic feats thrown in, and 40+ pages of original feats)<br />
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Ch5 "Powers" (50+ pages of superhero-style powers, from Flight to Extra Limbs to Webbing)<br />
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Ch6 "Combat and Movement" (fighting with superstrength, swinging, fighting in zero-G)<br />
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Ch7 "Running the Game" (the GMing chapter, notes on superheroes as a genre, tips on running any RPG)<br />
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Please feel free to download the game! It's a hobby project. If you email the address listed in the Introduction, I will send you any and all updates to the system that I make in the future. Updates come out every six weeks or so, or when I feel like avoiding my dissertation.<br />
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== Please ==<br />
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Please add a section for Advanced Classes. Modern class structure follows the order of:<br />
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* Base Class<br />
* Advanced Class<br />
* Prestige Class<br />
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Advanced Classes are 10 levels, Prestige Classes are 5 levels. Base classes do not change often, though there have been (a couple) variant base classes created. The most customization of classes takes place in Advanced Classes. ~ ShadoStahker, WotC Modern board member<br />
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:I added it, thank you for telling me that. I do not play D20 Modern often, so...<br />
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::No problem, thanks for putting it up. I know a couple people on the WotC boards are also interested in a NPCs section (may be a good idea for the D&D part too). As well, there may be interest in a "talent trees" section for fan-made base class talent trees (if you aren't familiar, they're similar to class-specific feat trees, for base classes only). ~ ShadoStahker<br />
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:::NPCs... There's a link to such a wiki here: http://d20npcs.wikicities.com/wiki/D20_Modern_NPCs_by_Challenge_Rating<br />
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::::Actually, there's DnD NPCs there as well. --[[User:PsiSeveredHead|PsiSeveredHead]] 21:26, 15 February 2006 (MST) WotC board member<br />
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== Hello ==<br />
My name is [[User:Wolfen Fenrison|Wolfen]] , some of you may remember me from the WotC boards, anyway I'm the admid for the D20 modern section so any questions or requests can be directed at me, thank you.<br />
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:Hey Wolfen. The only thing I can think of is a "Talent Trees" section. I personally don't use expanded talent trees, but I know some do. They may fit under "Variant Rules", though. Also, the main page is now unlocked. I don't know if you'd want to lock it again, but I'd assume so. ~ ShadoStahker<br />
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::You are correct expanded talent trees should go under varient rules -Wolfen<br />
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== Hi ==<br />
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This is blackknight5k from the wotc boards, how's it going? Anyways, I was thinking that it might be a good idea to more organize d20 modern with something like "d20 past, d20 modern, d20 future" because I know no one likes to go through d20 past stuff to get to a new mecha, or something like that. It might not be a problem now, but it might become a little cluttered if this wiki takes off.<br />
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:neccesity... as of late i hae become rather busy, finding a job, kingdom hearts 2, important stuff like that. but maby latter this week the d20 modern page will get a major update. as for sections for past and future, submissions should be marked for modern, past, or future. - Wolfen<br />
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::Em Back... Well the update I promised is done, and I updated my campaign setting, it is good to see all the material has been posted since green dragon and I concived this section and then handed it over to me. My hope is that as this game grows and evolves community support and creativity will grow as well, and remember the only stupid idea is the one not acted upon. - Wolfen<br />
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:::I agree with ''blackknight5k'' we need to break down d20 Modern into d20 Past, d20 Modern, d20 Future, and most all d20 Apocalypse. These variations are core to d20 Modern and if they sub-catagories are implemented now it will stop confusion in the future. -- [[User:Sepsis|Sepsis]] 18:15, 7 February 2007 (MST)<br />
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::::I say okay, lets do it. However, before anything else, all the D20 Past need to be part of [[:Category:D20 Past]], all the D20 Modern need to be a part of [[:Category:D20 Modern]], etc. When this is done the change will be easy. --[[User:Green Dragon|Green Dragon]] 19:15, 7 February 2007 (MST)<br />
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:::::The category right now is D20M for modern stuff. It would be easy enough to use D20P for past, D20F for future, and D20A for apocalypse. And the shorthand would be kept. Do we want to do it this way or the longer way (spelling out modern, past, etc.)? I personally prefer the shorthand... --[[User:EldritchNumen|EldritchNumen]] 02:03, 9 February 2007 (MST)<br />
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::::::Shorthand. When I posted that I did not think of good "Shorthands" so I just wrote them long. Good thinking and the Shorthands should be used. --[[User:Green Dragon|Green Dragon]] 12:40, 11 February 2007 (MST)<br />
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== Keep em coming guys ==<br />
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I'm very pleased with the amount of matirial that is getting posted (the oil elemental is very sweet), I'm working on more stuff my self but job huntinh has priority right now. -Wolfen<br />
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== Categories ==<br />
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Are there any D20 modern categories? Virtually none of the pages have categories or "return to" bars. I'll start to add some, but I need to know what categories there are and (if there are none) what should be made (besides the obvious: D20 modern feats, classes, etc.). Help? --[[User:EldritchNumen|EldritchNumen]] 14:50, 18 December 2006 (MST)<br />
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:To be honest, I really don't care that much about D20M. I don't play it, and I only added it to this site as an afterthought. So... when a new item is posted, or when the D&D section of D&D Wiki changes, I do not change the D20M section to reflect the D&D change. This section is a ''very'' primitive version of the D&D section. If you would like, go ahead and update it, and try to make it like the D&D section. If you have any questions of what categories are correct for what please feel free to ask me. --[[User:Green Dragon|Green Dragon]] 15:55, 18 December 2006 (MST)<br />
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== Admin Cat change... ==<br />
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Could an admin please change the category of this page from "D20Modern" to "D20 Modern". The second category will be the one used for all the D20 Modern pages. Thanks! --[[User:EldritchNumen|EldritchNumen]] 03:49, 19 December 2006 (MST)<br />
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:I changed the category; but not to what you wanted. I think all D20M material should be under D20M category, not D20 Modern. I changed it to reflect this. Will this work for your modernization of [[D20 Modern]]? Now for the reason: In the begginging of the D&D section of this site, all the cateories were [[:Category:Dungeons and Dragons]], and as the D&D seciton changed all the categories became [[:Category:DnD]] (Even though many are still part of [[:Category:Dungeons and Dragons]]). So, since you are bringing this up to date, all the categories should be brought up to date. I hope I made sense... --[[User:Green Dragon|Green Dragon]] 15:02, 19 December 2006 (MST)<br />
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== Updating Check Boxes ==<br />
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I changed the equipment splash page. It can have a green check mark now. I'll fix up the rest in the coming days. ''':)''' --[[User:EldritchNumen|EldritchNumen]] 02:00, 9 February 2007 (MST)<br />
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:Feats now, also. --[[User:EldritchNumen|EldritchNumen]] 03:35, 10 February 2007 (MST)<br />
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::And Races and FX Abilities. All have been updated to mirror the DnD pages. --[[User:EldritchNumen|EldritchNumen]] 03:45, 10 February 2007 (MST)<br />
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:::For the classes description on this page, the "and NPC..." should be removed. There are not NPC classes in D20 Modern. --[[User:EldritchNumen|EldritchNumen]] 21:04, 10 February 2007 (MST)<br />
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::::Okay... <br />
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::::**<strike>The actual pages need a dlpc header so they show up on the "With Descriptions" pages</strike><br />
::::**<strike>Since the MSRD has been added all the MSRD classes need to be linked to here just like [[DnD Classes]].</strike><br />
::::**the "By type" pages need to be made with dlpcu's.<br />
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::::**This needs to be like [[DnD Equipment]] with the table (maybe?).<br />
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::::**Shouldn't these be organized into general categories than put into wikitables (like [[DnD Feats]])?<br />
::::*FX Abilities<br />
::::**They need to be broken up by class than (so it is ''more'' advanced than [[DnD Feats]]) into dpl's by level.<br />
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::::**There must be a LA page; an all page, and the LA pages should include a dplcu list (like LA 6 races on [[3.5e Races]]). Also, this page needs to look like [[3.5e Races]] when done (LA on the side with links to other places throughout). <br />
::::This is all I can think of now, and I am sorry if this is a lot (I left all the harder ones to be done later ''':)'''). If you want help ask and I will be more than willing to help. --[[User:Green Dragon|Green Dragon]] 13:08, 11 February 2007 (MST)<br />
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:::::I'm going to put off working on the equipment and FX Abilities for now, since there is almost no content there. It can be updated later, if necessary. For now the simply DPLC lists I've implemented should work. Classes is first up for work; I'm actually finally getting there on some of the things to do. Next up will be races and, as I go, fixing all the tables into the "d20" class (I'm doing this as I go, for the most part). --[[User:EldritchNumen|EldritchNumen]] 02:04, 13 February 2007 (MST)<br />
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::::::Okay. So far classes looks better than before. Good work so far. --[[User:Green Dragon|Green Dragon]] 22:04, 13 February 2007 (MST)<br />
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== Checklist of Updates and Revisions ==<br />
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# Add preload functions:<br />
#*<s>[[D20 Modern Character Optimizations]]</s><br />
#*<s>[[D20 Modern Classes]]</s><br />
#*<s>[[D20 Modern Feats]]</s><br />
#*[[D20 Modern Races]]<br />
#*[[D20 Modern Creatures]]<br />
#*[[D20 Modern NPCs]]<br />
# D20 Modern Classes:<br />
#*<s> Add dplcus for classes by type.</s><br />
#* <s>Make the MSRD links link to ''only'' the class type in question with their own dlp page while not linking to [[Classes (MSRD)]].</s><br />
# Update all tables to d20 class.<br />
# <s>Update all categories to newest system.</s><br />
# Change all the pages to the formatting used in the preload (the very old pages are just haphazardly thrown together, and it doesn't look very professional).<br />
# Make a D20 Modern specific creature template (with Massive Damage Threshold, etc.).<br />
# Major overhaul of [[D20 Modern Races]]; it needs to look like the DnD version, with LA categories, an "All" page, etc.<br />
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::This is mainly just for me, and will grow as other important things come up. But feel free to add things if they come up. &mdash;[[User:EldritchNumen|EldritchNumen]] 17:03, 20 February 2007 (MST)<br />
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:::Some of this is going to be a pain to do without the ability to edit the MSRD. For example, the categories should be renamed, and the pages need to be split (there needs to be just a MSRD:Basic Classes page, that has the category "Basic Class (MSRD)", etc. Otherwise setting up some of the pages, such as the class splash page, can't be done with any sort of efficiency or order (see 2B above about classes, for example)... --[[User:EldritchNumen|EldritchNumen]] 15:13, 21 February 2007 (MST)<br />
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::::Hm... All I can say is ask Dmilewski as he is in charge of the MSRD ''or'' just go for an RfA. --[[User:Green Dragon|Green Dragon]] 11:43, 22 February 2007 (MST)<br />
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:::::I removed all the checks and x's from the page, primarily to make it look better. Is this okay? I figured I know pretty well what still has to be updated, and I'm keeping a running list here, so we don't need to clutter the home page with it... what do you think? &mdash;[[User:EldritchNumen|EldritchNumen]] 00:06, 9 March 2007 (MST)<br />
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::::::I only speak for myself however it should be okay. Since you have taken over D20M I am sure you know what needs to be done. Removing the X's is a good move so visitors understand their is content even though X's used to be their. --[[User:Green Dragon|Green Dragon]] 10:48, 9 March 2007 (MST)<br />
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== Homebrew Occupations? ==<br />
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Please do add a category for homebrew occupations, I have some I'd like to share. [[User:81.233.196.49|81.233.196.49]] 04:31, 1 June 2008 (MDT)<br />
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:Done. Enjoy! ''':)''' &mdash;[[User:EldritchNumen|EldritchNumen]] 13:27, 2 June 2008 (MDT)<br />
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==Homebrew to-do list==<br />
We definitely need to sort out the re organisation of the classes at least... --[[User:Sabre070|Sabre070]] 16:05, 14 November 2008 (MST)<br />
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== Add Homebrew Skills? ==<br />
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Please add a category for homebrew skills, I have some ideas that I would like to share. -[[User:Sarrow|Sarrow]] 23:08, 8 February 2009 (MST)<br />
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== Elven Avenger... ==<br />
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I have an elven avenger and I need help on any homebrewing abilities that anyone can think of. Please help, Vega Theren...<br />
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== How do I make an animal? ==<br />
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Ok so i have no clue how to do this but i want to make an Exploding Chicken animal for D20M Apocalypse and all i know is that its a regular chicken that explodes when within 15ft of any nonchaotic for 1d6 damage at a range of 20ft. they have a total health of 3. they also are weak and are just mobile... firecracker i guess would be the best way of puting it. my DM said to just put it on here cause he wants to see what others think. thanks! --[[User:Ozzy1234567890|Ozzy1234567890]] 11:12, 24 January 2011 (MST)<br />
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:What do you mean by make it? There aren't really any rules to govern exploding chickens, so you will pretty much have to make them up yourself. I would say start with a chicken (might have to steal the stats from D&D (if they exist) or create your own), and just add a special quality called Explode. The explosion would probably require a reflex save for half damage (DC = 10 + chicken's Con mod). Probably more more than a CR 1/2 or 1. [[User:Jazzman831|Jazz]][[User talk:Jazzman831|Man]] 19:10, 23 January 2011 (MST)</div>Ozzy1234567890https://www.dandwiki.com/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Badger&diff=504310User talk:Badger2011-01-24T18:06:19Z<p>Ozzy1234567890: /* Creating an Animal */</p>
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== MoI ==<br />
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Since you commented on [[Category_talk:Candidates_for_Deletion#Idea_for_half-completed_pages|this discussion]], I'm letting you know that I think we've reached working version of the Abandoned template. Let me know what you think. [[User:Jazzman831|Jazz]][[User talk:Jazzman831|Man]] 18:51, 6 May 2010 (UTC)<br />
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==Tavern Mockup==<br />
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For your [[User:Badger/sandbox1|tavern mockup]] I was thinking, you may want to add another rule similar to 'All administrators have the right to remove or block you from the tavern for breaking any previously listed rule'. Thoughts? --[[User:Vrail|Vrail]] 04:07, 8 June 2010 (UTC)<br />
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==Templates List==<br />
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Sorry about changing your sandbox, guess I should have asked you to do it. Basically I have spent a tun of time cleaning out every single article in the wording issues section on the meta pages, and your template is linking to the category adding a page there that I can't remove. So I was just changing your workspace so it didn't show up there. To bad it didn't work for some reason... ''':(''' --[[User:Vrail|Vrail]] 05:00, 8 June 2010 (UTC)<br />
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:It's ok. I tried to do the same thing, and it didn't work. I have a new plan, but it is a hack-job of coding. If I can't figure out a way to use the noinclude tags I'll use it. --[[User:Badger|Badger]] 05:03, 8 June 2010 (UTC)<br />
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::You could copy and paste what is on the actual template pages, could you not? --[[User:Vrail|Vrail]] 05:13, 8 June 2010 (UTC)<br />
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:::That's the gross fix. I'm implementing it now. It's working for all of them except abandoned. I think there is something inherently wrong that that page though... --[[User:Badger|Badger]] 05:15, 8 June 2010 (UTC)<br />
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::::Lol, thanks for fixing that for me. I know a fair bit of wiki coding, but when noinclude wasn't working I was getting a little bit worried. ''':P''' --[[User:Vrail|Vrail]] 05:26, 8 June 2010 (UTC)<br />
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:::::noinclude is the best idea that never works, or so my experience would suggest. --[[User:Badger|Badger]] 05:28, 8 June 2010 (UTC)<br />
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::::::Hey, it wasn't my template, it was your text! I fixed it :). The only other templates I could think of are the breadcrumb templates, but those might be too complicated for a beginner's guide. [[User:Jazzman831|Jazz]][[User talk:Jazzman831|Man]] 22:08, 8 June 2010 (UTC)<br />
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:::::::I figured breadcrumbs probably warrant a page of their own, they're pretty complex. The goal of this page, in my opinion, is to introduce templates that are content-based, not to teach template basics. Perhaps I should re-title the page, or clarify that somehow... --[[User:Badger|Badger]] 22:16, 8 June 2010 (UTC)<br />
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== Adding the Correct Indicator ==<br />
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In your edit summary for your page move you said you were adding the correct indicator. I just wanted to make a side note and say, its called a tag. Just for future reference when people are talking about tags. ''':)''' Then again maybe you knew that and were just being different. In that case... completely ignore everything I just said and keep up the good work. ''':D''' --[[User:Vrail|Vrail]] 21:50, 16 June 2010 (UTC)<br />
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== New Users Guide ==<br />
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I left a comment on the talk page for the new users guide that you are making, however seeing as it has been neerly a week since I posted it and I've heard no response, I was just posting here to make sure you had noticed it. I would tell you my comment here, but that would seem a little bit redundent as it is already posted [[User talk:Badger/sandbox3|here]]. ''':)''' --[[User:Vrail|Vrail]] 17:55, 26 June 2010 (UTC)<br />
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== Question ==<br />
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Um Badger? To I have to connect my [[Proto Buster (4e Future Equipment)]] with my [[D&D 4.0 Future (4e Sourcebook)|sourcebook?]]<br />
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--[[User:Axl|Axl]] 00:56, 8 July 2010 (UTC)<br />
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:Not necessarily. I'd include a link to it under the future equipment page, but you don't have to include it under the 4e Sourcebook namespace. I'd leave it as just "Protobuster (4e Equipment)". Hope this helps. --[[User:Badger|Badger]] 01:10, 8 July 2010 (UTC)<br />
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::Okay.<br />
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--[[User:Axl|Axl]] 21:29, 10 July 2010 (UTC)<br />
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== Problem ==<br />
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Can you answer this? So, you know that I'm creating a [[D&D 4.0 Future (4e Sourcebook)|D&D 4.0 Future]] sourcebook. Well, I made a [[Reploid (4e Creature)|creature]] for it in [[D&D 4.0 Future (4e Sourcebook)/Chapter 3: Monsters|Chapter 3: Monsters]], but it doesn't show up on the page. What should I do? --[[User:Axl|Axl]] 23:24, 13 July 2010 (UTC)<br />
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:You had forgotten to add the DPL tables to actually list the content. I went ahead and added them for you. It should work now. --[[User:Badger|Badger]] 23:32, 13 July 2010 (UTC)<br />
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::All right. Thanks. --[[User:Axl|Axl]] 23:36, 13 July 2010 (UTC)<br />
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== Help ==<br />
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Hey Badger, do you mind helping me with my [[D&D 4.0 Future (4e Sourcebook)|sourcebook]]? I could use some help. There's more categories I need to add, I need to finish the equipment (also using the preload that you made). If you could help me with that, that would be great. --[[User:Axl|Axl]] 02:45, 20 July 2010 (UTC)<br />
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:I don't know what you'd want me to do, exactly. I don't know anything about 4e, so I'd not be useful at writing anything. Also, I've never really played much Megaman, so I couldn't even help with that. I don't know of anything I could help with. If you are having issues coding, I could take at look at that, but that's pretty much it. --[[User:Badger|Badger]] 03:04, 20 July 2010 (UTC)<br />
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::Yeah, maybe if you could start changing the DPLs that are not already upgraded (make sure that everything still connects) that would be great. --[[User:Axl|Axl]] 04:19, 21 July 2010 (UTC)<br />
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:::So I don't want to go through and do the grunt work of your sourcebook coding (I have better uses of my free-time, no offense) but if you're having trouble with DPLs, [[User:Badger/sandbox4|this]] link should help clear things up for you. If you're still having trouble with DPLs I can try to teach them to you. Wikipedia, or maybe mediawiki (I can't recall), also has some pretty good tutorials on how to write and use DPLs. --[[User:Badger|Badger]] 06:07, 25 July 2010 (UTC)<br />
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::::Yeah, I know about your DPL thing, I just wanted help. But, that's okay. Oh, by the way, um, I should have thought about it some more, but I found out that I don't really need your 4e add new equipment. Sorry for putting you through the trouble. I really should have thought about it more. But thanks for your help anyway. --[[User:Axl|Axl]] 16:54, 26 July 2010 (UTC)<br />
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:::::Heh heh, um started using the add new equipment thing again. So, yeah. Thanks. --[[User:Axl|Axl]] 22:09, 12 August 2010 (UTC)<br />
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::::::Do you mind if I update it a little? I'm planning to put in where it will automatically show the basic idea on the page before you enter the weapon's link. --[[User:Axl|Axl]] 19:01, 18 August 2010 (MDT)<br />
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:::::::Feel free to do whatever you want to it. I've got no experience with 4e, so I wouldn't know how to improve it. I just mocked it together real fast, I'm sure there are multiple ways you can improve upon it. Have at it! --[[User:Badger|Badger]] 19:27, 18 August 2010 (MDT)<br />
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== Kenseijin ==<br />
Hey badger i just wanted to inform you that the Kenseijin is 99% complete and is being tested in a campaign, let me know what you think of it and ill keep its progress posted, Cheers!!! -[[User:Envoyof aGod|Envoyof_aGod]] 15:08, 4 August 2010 (UTC)<br />
<br />
Just wanted to let you know the Kenseijin is actually kinda hard to play haha, made a few updates to balance them yet but more is still to be seen so ill keep you posted, Cheers!!![[User:Envoyof aGod|Envoyof_aGod]] 13:15, 25 August 2010 (MDT)<br />
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== My RfA ==<br />
<br />
Recently I nominated myself for adminship on the wiki. I don't want to sound like I'm advertising my nomination, however it has been three days without any support or oppose comments. I am just trying to get at least a few people to take notice and comment. My nomination may be found [[Requests for Adminship/Vrail|here]]. Thanks. --[[User:Vrail|Vrail]] 11:16, 18 August 2010 (MDT)<br />
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:I went ahead and weighed in, for what it's worth. You should talk to GD (or any other admin) about getting your nomination on the news feed on the main page. It's protected, so you can't just add it yourself, but that would probably generate a little more activity. --[[User:Badger|Badger]] 14:40, 19 August 2010 (MDT)<br />
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::Yes, thanks for your contributions to my RfA. I will definately contact GD about that and perhaps another admin, as often GD takes a few days to respond to messages on his talk page. ''':)''' --[[User:Vrail|Vrail]] 15:13, 19 August 2010 (MDT)<br />
<br />
==Looking For Group==<br />
<br />
I'm moving soon and it is a distance of immense proportions and I was wondering if you know of anyone in the milwauki area of portland oregon who plays 3.5e and is willing to accept know members. If so leave a not on my talk page or email me at dragoona22@hotmail.com to let me now thx.<br />
--[[User:Dragoona22|Dragoona22]]<br />
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==Also==<br />
<br />
Thx I left a message with hooper also I was wondering if you would look over the 3.5e class I made called the Gaurdian of the Blade. My only problem is I can't the lvls table so if you could help me with that it would be great.<br />
<br />
Thak you that should help emensly.<br />
<br />
== Anti-Vandal Barnstar ==<br />
Thanks! --[[User:Badger|Badger]] 13:42, 6 November 2010 (MDT)<br />
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== Bite and Claw damage? ==<br />
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>.< i need some help i dont know where i would fine a claw and bite table to give the rough attack damage of a large creature with claw and bite. >.< <br />
<br />
Im working on a race that has claws and bites, could you help me. {{Unsigned|Ohgren}}<br />
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:Alright, well, first I need to know a little about your race. Is it humanoid? Should we be basing the claws and bites off of insects, mammals, or dragons, for example? My first instinct is to just check the Claw and Bite damage of dragons, [[SRD:Dragon#Combat|here]]. These will be likely too strong to just pick "large" and transfer that over, but subtracting a size category and using medium stats would probably be fine. I'd recommend a 1d6 for claws, and a d4 for bites, if claws are the primary attack; or a 1d8 bite and 1d4 claws if bite is the primary natural attack. You could go with 1d8/1d6 primary/secondary attacks as well, considering they are large creatures. <br />
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:Edit: It looks like you're going with some sort of big wolf/dog race, so I'd suggest looking at the Monster manual entries for [[SRD:Dire_Lion|Dire Lion]], [[SRD:Dire_Tiger|Dire Tiger]], and [[SRD:Dire_Wolf|Dire Wolf]] for suggested damages, and of course, you can check out the table for bite and claw damage on the page for [[SRD:Lycanthrope#Creating_a_Lycanthrope|lycanthropy]].--[[User:Badger|Badger]] 13:40, 6 November 2010 (MDT)<br />
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::Thanks, Badger. :) <br />
::Wait with the other form shall i give it the dire wolf attack, and then give it for it's normal the lycanthrope since that seems about right for thier damage? {{Unsigned|Ohgren}}<br />
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:::Uh, yeah. That seems pretty reasonable. The bite/claw on the lycanthrope page is for the hybrid form, if I'm not mistaken. Hybrid is the traditional image of "werewolf", which seems very similar to what you've based your race on. I'd say that would be a reasonable decision. --[[User:Badger|Badger]] 17:48, 6 November 2010 (MDT)<br />
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:::: Could you check on my [[Vartexion_(3.5e_Race)|Vartexion]]? Now that I'm finished with it I'd like to know if I need anything else to make it better. My brother Koldron wants to start a New Story with some of these races. Thanks {{Unsigned|Ohgren}}<br />
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:::::I'm going to copy this conversation an leave my new comments on the talk page of your race, which can be found [[Talk:Vartexion_(3.5e_Race)|here]]. --[[User:Badger|Badger]] 18:20, 6 November 2010 (MDT)<br />
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== Did you? ==<br />
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Hey Badger,<br />
:I noticed that my [[Template:4e Form]] got fixed up. I noticed that it was in your style of coding, so I was wondering if you did it. If you did, thanks. I needed help.<br />
:--[[User:Axl|Axl]] 15:16, 15 November 2010 (MST)<br />
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::Nope, after checking the edit history it looks like it was Green Dragon if it wasn't you... --[[User:Badger|Badger]] 15:20, 15 November 2010 (MST)<br />
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:::oh, Okay. --[[User:Axl|Axl]] 16:52, 23 December 2010 (MST)<br />
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== 4e_Magical_Armor Preload ==<br />
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Hey Badger,<br />
:Did you make a 4e_Magical_Armor preload (something along those lines)? If not, it would be nice if you could come up with one.<br />
Thanks,<br />
--[[User:Axl|Axl]] 16:50, 23 December 2010 (MST)<br />
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:I've not made a preload for magical armor. You can probably just use the armor template, as it's just (4e Armor), and write in any magical enhancement bonuses, and include information in the flavor text below the template. That template can be found [[Template:4e_Armor|here]], and there is a preload [[User:Badger/sandbox6|here]]. Let me know if you need anything else. --[[User:Badger|Badger]] 17:46, 23 December 2010 (MST)<br />
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== From Kneja ==<br />
<br />
Hey! I'm new to this site (but incredibly not new to 3.5e) and I needed a friend, you seem to be exactly the kind of person I need (I.e. Awesome) so what say you? Friends and such?<br />
<br />
Also your choice of scoundrelly type characters is a definite plus, as is your dislike of bleeding<br />
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:I don't know what being super special awesome internet friends means, but I'm here if you need any help with the wiki. You can leave a message here, and I'll try to respond quickly (usually within a day). --[[User:Badger|Badger]] 23:17, 31 December 2010 (MST)<br />
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== Thanks! ==<br />
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Hey. This is Dj00345. Thank you for letting me know to put a help section In the discussion page. I have been playing AD&D for a while now, but I am new to this website. I might be making a few more pages that I might need help on. If you would like you can help me work on them. If you would like to, just comment on my talk page. If I get a message from you, then I will send you the names of the pages. I am new to this so I don't know how to link pages. Unless it just doesnt show them on my screen. But thanks again, and remember, if you would like to help me, just leave a comment. Thanks again Badger!<br />
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Dj00345<br />
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== Problem? ==<br />
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Hey badger! You told me to comment on your talk page if I had a question. Well whenever I link something to a page, it shows that page as red, when I already created that page. Can you help me and tell me what to do? --Dj00345<br />
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:Alright, well, it seems what you're doing is just not linking them quite properly. You're typing <nowiki>[[Lord Kray]]</nowiki>, for example, when you should be typing <nowiki>[[Lord Kray_(3.5e_NPC)|Lord Kray]]</nowiki>. The way a link works is like this: <nowiki>[[Name_of_Page|Display Text]]</nowiki>. If you do everything right, it should be blue text, like this: [[Lord Kray_(3.5e_NPC)|Lord Kray]]. I hope that clears things up. --[[User:Badger|Badger]] 18:48, 3 January 2011 (MST)<br />
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It did thanks!<br />
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==Thanks==<br />
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Thanks for the info! Since you said you will chime in, I figure I can just post what I am trying to do on my own talk page. First thing I am working on finishing is a monster/race. I have most of the kinks worked out so far that I have noticed or that my friends have, but you know how it goes. Second is that old problem of a Low Magic Realm or World. I have an idea on how to do it but the only thing I can think of is from either First or Second Edition, and it has been several years since I played either one. Nor do I even have the books to look through anymore. I will now go post what I have for my Monster/Race in my own talk page. I would link it but I'm not sure what the link would be.<br />
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Daryl<br />
<br />
: Hey, I was just looking at your New User Guide and started to wonder a few things. Is there a chance that you can show me a guide or tell me how to code my own user page to be similar to yours? Not exactly similar but as in "About me" and "goals" and such. Thanks again for the help you have given me thus far. [[User:Lyrad8791|Lyrad8791]] 02:04, 4 January 2011 (MST)<br />
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::My first recommendation would be to steal it. In my opinion the best way to learn things is to screw around with it on your own. Just "edit" my user page, copy the text, and close it without changing anything, then go edit your page and paste it in there. Soon enough you'll be able to figure out how to change colors, titles, fonts, and everything else. Other users also have done some different things with their pages, and you might want to check them out to see if you like what they have going on. Some people have their pages set up as if they are a 3.5e Creature/Race. Others just use it as a list of everything they've done. --[[User:Badger|Badger]] 10:11, 4 January 2011 (MST)<br />
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==Creature Creation==<br />
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Hey, I made my creature as best as I can using the template you showed me. For some reason it was not giving me the code usage for the special qualities and such on the basic page so I went and found a page that was using it. From there things seemed to work out. It now has its own page in the Creatures section... not completely sure as to which section since I just pressed add new creature. Anyway, I figured you would like to know how far I have made it, and that if nothing else you will know where to find it. Also, since you mentioned you might chime in and give suggestions and such when you get to look at it. [http://www.dandwiki.com/wiki/Dimidium_Troll_%283.5e_Creature%29 Dimidium Troll] Also it seems that I have figured out how to link into pages as well. You are a good teacher, thanks for the instruction! [[User:Lyrad8791|Lyrad8791]] 22:56, 4 January 2011 (MST)<br />
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==Spam==<br />
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I have left a similar message on Green Dragons Talk page but I figure I should be thorough with this. It seems there are a few Users that are posting spam and doing a redirect for their User page to the mentioned Spam. One instance is this link [[http://www.dandwiki.com/wiki/Best_Electronic_Cigarette_Review here.]] I don't know the procedure for deleting spam so I am asking you and the owner. I was just wondering if I should just mention it and leave be or if I should delete the contents of the page since I don't know how I would delete the page itself. [[User:Lyrad8791|Lyrad8791]] 23:57, 8 January 2011 (MST)<br />
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:Well, the long and the short of it is you shouldn't probably bother to do anything. Only Admin's can totally delete a page. Likewise, only admins can ban a user. Whenever I come across spam, I blank the page, and then add a delete template. After that, I save changes with something like "Delete this spam" in the edit summary. Usually Jazzman is pretty good about catching these and deleting them for real. I don't know the official site policy on users handling spam, but no one has asked me to stop, so I still do it. One thing, however, is to make sure that the page never had any content on it. We don't want to delete a page that once had content, just because it now has spam. Like I said, us users can't do much in the way of permanent change (that's the admin's job), so if you want to turn a blind eye, no one will blame you. However, if you delete a bunch, someone might give you a nifty little barnstar like I have at the top of this page. --[[User:Badger|Badger]] 00:02, 9 January 2011 (MST)<br />
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== Creating an Animal ==<br />
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So... you mentioned something about tables and things like that? i did find what each thing means ( http://www.dandwiki.com/wiki/Template:D20M_Creature ) but what i need is the stuff it lists in the examples please. -[[User:Ozzy1234567890|Ozzy1234567890]] 11:06, 24 January 2011 (MST)</div>Ozzy1234567890https://www.dandwiki.com/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Badger&diff=504309User talk:Badger2011-01-24T18:04:51Z<p>Ozzy1234567890: /* Creating an Animal */ new section</p>
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<div>{{Anti-Vandal Barnstar|For your help with finding vandal's edits, removing vandal's work, and helping keep D&D Wiki clean, I give you this Barnstar. Thanks for your help. --[[User:Green Dragon|Green Dragon]] 11:06, 4 November 2010 (MDT)}}<br />
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== MoI ==<br />
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Since you commented on [[Category_talk:Candidates_for_Deletion#Idea_for_half-completed_pages|this discussion]], I'm letting you know that I think we've reached working version of the Abandoned template. Let me know what you think. [[User:Jazzman831|Jazz]][[User talk:Jazzman831|Man]] 18:51, 6 May 2010 (UTC)<br />
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==Tavern Mockup==<br />
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For your [[User:Badger/sandbox1|tavern mockup]] I was thinking, you may want to add another rule similar to 'All administrators have the right to remove or block you from the tavern for breaking any previously listed rule'. Thoughts? --[[User:Vrail|Vrail]] 04:07, 8 June 2010 (UTC)<br />
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==Templates List==<br />
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Sorry about changing your sandbox, guess I should have asked you to do it. Basically I have spent a tun of time cleaning out every single article in the wording issues section on the meta pages, and your template is linking to the category adding a page there that I can't remove. So I was just changing your workspace so it didn't show up there. To bad it didn't work for some reason... ''':(''' --[[User:Vrail|Vrail]] 05:00, 8 June 2010 (UTC)<br />
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:It's ok. I tried to do the same thing, and it didn't work. I have a new plan, but it is a hack-job of coding. If I can't figure out a way to use the noinclude tags I'll use it. --[[User:Badger|Badger]] 05:03, 8 June 2010 (UTC)<br />
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::You could copy and paste what is on the actual template pages, could you not? --[[User:Vrail|Vrail]] 05:13, 8 June 2010 (UTC)<br />
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:::That's the gross fix. I'm implementing it now. It's working for all of them except abandoned. I think there is something inherently wrong that that page though... --[[User:Badger|Badger]] 05:15, 8 June 2010 (UTC)<br />
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::::Lol, thanks for fixing that for me. I know a fair bit of wiki coding, but when noinclude wasn't working I was getting a little bit worried. ''':P''' --[[User:Vrail|Vrail]] 05:26, 8 June 2010 (UTC)<br />
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:::::noinclude is the best idea that never works, or so my experience would suggest. --[[User:Badger|Badger]] 05:28, 8 June 2010 (UTC)<br />
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::::::Hey, it wasn't my template, it was your text! I fixed it :). The only other templates I could think of are the breadcrumb templates, but those might be too complicated for a beginner's guide. [[User:Jazzman831|Jazz]][[User talk:Jazzman831|Man]] 22:08, 8 June 2010 (UTC)<br />
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:::::::I figured breadcrumbs probably warrant a page of their own, they're pretty complex. The goal of this page, in my opinion, is to introduce templates that are content-based, not to teach template basics. Perhaps I should re-title the page, or clarify that somehow... --[[User:Badger|Badger]] 22:16, 8 June 2010 (UTC)<br />
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== Adding the Correct Indicator ==<br />
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In your edit summary for your page move you said you were adding the correct indicator. I just wanted to make a side note and say, its called a tag. Just for future reference when people are talking about tags. ''':)''' Then again maybe you knew that and were just being different. In that case... completely ignore everything I just said and keep up the good work. ''':D''' --[[User:Vrail|Vrail]] 21:50, 16 June 2010 (UTC)<br />
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== New Users Guide ==<br />
<br />
I left a comment on the talk page for the new users guide that you are making, however seeing as it has been neerly a week since I posted it and I've heard no response, I was just posting here to make sure you had noticed it. I would tell you my comment here, but that would seem a little bit redundent as it is already posted [[User talk:Badger/sandbox3|here]]. ''':)''' --[[User:Vrail|Vrail]] 17:55, 26 June 2010 (UTC)<br />
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== Question ==<br />
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Um Badger? To I have to connect my [[Proto Buster (4e Future Equipment)]] with my [[D&D 4.0 Future (4e Sourcebook)|sourcebook?]]<br />
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--[[User:Axl|Axl]] 00:56, 8 July 2010 (UTC)<br />
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:Not necessarily. I'd include a link to it under the future equipment page, but you don't have to include it under the 4e Sourcebook namespace. I'd leave it as just "Protobuster (4e Equipment)". Hope this helps. --[[User:Badger|Badger]] 01:10, 8 July 2010 (UTC)<br />
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::Okay.<br />
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--[[User:Axl|Axl]] 21:29, 10 July 2010 (UTC)<br />
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== Problem ==<br />
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Can you answer this? So, you know that I'm creating a [[D&D 4.0 Future (4e Sourcebook)|D&D 4.0 Future]] sourcebook. Well, I made a [[Reploid (4e Creature)|creature]] for it in [[D&D 4.0 Future (4e Sourcebook)/Chapter 3: Monsters|Chapter 3: Monsters]], but it doesn't show up on the page. What should I do? --[[User:Axl|Axl]] 23:24, 13 July 2010 (UTC)<br />
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:You had forgotten to add the DPL tables to actually list the content. I went ahead and added them for you. It should work now. --[[User:Badger|Badger]] 23:32, 13 July 2010 (UTC)<br />
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::All right. Thanks. --[[User:Axl|Axl]] 23:36, 13 July 2010 (UTC)<br />
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== Help ==<br />
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Hey Badger, do you mind helping me with my [[D&D 4.0 Future (4e Sourcebook)|sourcebook]]? I could use some help. There's more categories I need to add, I need to finish the equipment (also using the preload that you made). If you could help me with that, that would be great. --[[User:Axl|Axl]] 02:45, 20 July 2010 (UTC)<br />
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:I don't know what you'd want me to do, exactly. I don't know anything about 4e, so I'd not be useful at writing anything. Also, I've never really played much Megaman, so I couldn't even help with that. I don't know of anything I could help with. If you are having issues coding, I could take at look at that, but that's pretty much it. --[[User:Badger|Badger]] 03:04, 20 July 2010 (UTC)<br />
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::Yeah, maybe if you could start changing the DPLs that are not already upgraded (make sure that everything still connects) that would be great. --[[User:Axl|Axl]] 04:19, 21 July 2010 (UTC)<br />
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:::So I don't want to go through and do the grunt work of your sourcebook coding (I have better uses of my free-time, no offense) but if you're having trouble with DPLs, [[User:Badger/sandbox4|this]] link should help clear things up for you. If you're still having trouble with DPLs I can try to teach them to you. Wikipedia, or maybe mediawiki (I can't recall), also has some pretty good tutorials on how to write and use DPLs. --[[User:Badger|Badger]] 06:07, 25 July 2010 (UTC)<br />
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::::Yeah, I know about your DPL thing, I just wanted help. But, that's okay. Oh, by the way, um, I should have thought about it some more, but I found out that I don't really need your 4e add new equipment. Sorry for putting you through the trouble. I really should have thought about it more. But thanks for your help anyway. --[[User:Axl|Axl]] 16:54, 26 July 2010 (UTC)<br />
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:::::Heh heh, um started using the add new equipment thing again. So, yeah. Thanks. --[[User:Axl|Axl]] 22:09, 12 August 2010 (UTC)<br />
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::::::Do you mind if I update it a little? I'm planning to put in where it will automatically show the basic idea on the page before you enter the weapon's link. --[[User:Axl|Axl]] 19:01, 18 August 2010 (MDT)<br />
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:::::::Feel free to do whatever you want to it. I've got no experience with 4e, so I wouldn't know how to improve it. I just mocked it together real fast, I'm sure there are multiple ways you can improve upon it. Have at it! --[[User:Badger|Badger]] 19:27, 18 August 2010 (MDT)<br />
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== Kenseijin ==<br />
Hey badger i just wanted to inform you that the Kenseijin is 99% complete and is being tested in a campaign, let me know what you think of it and ill keep its progress posted, Cheers!!! -[[User:Envoyof aGod|Envoyof_aGod]] 15:08, 4 August 2010 (UTC)<br />
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Just wanted to let you know the Kenseijin is actually kinda hard to play haha, made a few updates to balance them yet but more is still to be seen so ill keep you posted, Cheers!!![[User:Envoyof aGod|Envoyof_aGod]] 13:15, 25 August 2010 (MDT)<br />
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== My RfA ==<br />
<br />
Recently I nominated myself for adminship on the wiki. I don't want to sound like I'm advertising my nomination, however it has been three days without any support or oppose comments. I am just trying to get at least a few people to take notice and comment. My nomination may be found [[Requests for Adminship/Vrail|here]]. Thanks. --[[User:Vrail|Vrail]] 11:16, 18 August 2010 (MDT)<br />
<br />
:I went ahead and weighed in, for what it's worth. You should talk to GD (or any other admin) about getting your nomination on the news feed on the main page. It's protected, so you can't just add it yourself, but that would probably generate a little more activity. --[[User:Badger|Badger]] 14:40, 19 August 2010 (MDT)<br />
<br />
::Yes, thanks for your contributions to my RfA. I will definately contact GD about that and perhaps another admin, as often GD takes a few days to respond to messages on his talk page. ''':)''' --[[User:Vrail|Vrail]] 15:13, 19 August 2010 (MDT)<br />
<br />
==Looking For Group==<br />
<br />
I'm moving soon and it is a distance of immense proportions and I was wondering if you know of anyone in the milwauki area of portland oregon who plays 3.5e and is willing to accept know members. If so leave a not on my talk page or email me at dragoona22@hotmail.com to let me now thx.<br />
--[[User:Dragoona22|Dragoona22]]<br />
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==Also==<br />
<br />
Thx I left a message with hooper also I was wondering if you would look over the 3.5e class I made called the Gaurdian of the Blade. My only problem is I can't the lvls table so if you could help me with that it would be great.<br />
<br />
Thak you that should help emensly.<br />
<br />
== Anti-Vandal Barnstar ==<br />
Thanks! --[[User:Badger|Badger]] 13:42, 6 November 2010 (MDT)<br />
<br />
== Bite and Claw damage? ==<br />
<br />
>.< i need some help i dont know where i would fine a claw and bite table to give the rough attack damage of a large creature with claw and bite. >.< <br />
<br />
Im working on a race that has claws and bites, could you help me. {{Unsigned|Ohgren}}<br />
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:Alright, well, first I need to know a little about your race. Is it humanoid? Should we be basing the claws and bites off of insects, mammals, or dragons, for example? My first instinct is to just check the Claw and Bite damage of dragons, [[SRD:Dragon#Combat|here]]. These will be likely too strong to just pick "large" and transfer that over, but subtracting a size category and using medium stats would probably be fine. I'd recommend a 1d6 for claws, and a d4 for bites, if claws are the primary attack; or a 1d8 bite and 1d4 claws if bite is the primary natural attack. You could go with 1d8/1d6 primary/secondary attacks as well, considering they are large creatures. <br />
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:Edit: It looks like you're going with some sort of big wolf/dog race, so I'd suggest looking at the Monster manual entries for [[SRD:Dire_Lion|Dire Lion]], [[SRD:Dire_Tiger|Dire Tiger]], and [[SRD:Dire_Wolf|Dire Wolf]] for suggested damages, and of course, you can check out the table for bite and claw damage on the page for [[SRD:Lycanthrope#Creating_a_Lycanthrope|lycanthropy]].--[[User:Badger|Badger]] 13:40, 6 November 2010 (MDT)<br />
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::Thanks, Badger. :) <br />
::Wait with the other form shall i give it the dire wolf attack, and then give it for it's normal the lycanthrope since that seems about right for thier damage? {{Unsigned|Ohgren}}<br />
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:::Uh, yeah. That seems pretty reasonable. The bite/claw on the lycanthrope page is for the hybrid form, if I'm not mistaken. Hybrid is the traditional image of "werewolf", which seems very similar to what you've based your race on. I'd say that would be a reasonable decision. --[[User:Badger|Badger]] 17:48, 6 November 2010 (MDT)<br />
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:::: Could you check on my [[Vartexion_(3.5e_Race)|Vartexion]]? Now that I'm finished with it I'd like to know if I need anything else to make it better. My brother Koldron wants to start a New Story with some of these races. Thanks {{Unsigned|Ohgren}}<br />
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:::::I'm going to copy this conversation an leave my new comments on the talk page of your race, which can be found [[Talk:Vartexion_(3.5e_Race)|here]]. --[[User:Badger|Badger]] 18:20, 6 November 2010 (MDT)<br />
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== Did you? ==<br />
<br />
Hey Badger,<br />
:I noticed that my [[Template:4e Form]] got fixed up. I noticed that it was in your style of coding, so I was wondering if you did it. If you did, thanks. I needed help.<br />
:--[[User:Axl|Axl]] 15:16, 15 November 2010 (MST)<br />
<br />
::Nope, after checking the edit history it looks like it was Green Dragon if it wasn't you... --[[User:Badger|Badger]] 15:20, 15 November 2010 (MST)<br />
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:::oh, Okay. --[[User:Axl|Axl]] 16:52, 23 December 2010 (MST)<br />
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== 4e_Magical_Armor Preload ==<br />
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Hey Badger,<br />
:Did you make a 4e_Magical_Armor preload (something along those lines)? If not, it would be nice if you could come up with one.<br />
Thanks,<br />
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:I've not made a preload for magical armor. You can probably just use the armor template, as it's just (4e Armor), and write in any magical enhancement bonuses, and include information in the flavor text below the template. That template can be found [[Template:4e_Armor|here]], and there is a preload [[User:Badger/sandbox6|here]]. Let me know if you need anything else. --[[User:Badger|Badger]] 17:46, 23 December 2010 (MST)<br />
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== From Kneja ==<br />
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Hey! I'm new to this site (but incredibly not new to 3.5e) and I needed a friend, you seem to be exactly the kind of person I need (I.e. Awesome) so what say you? Friends and such?<br />
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Also your choice of scoundrelly type characters is a definite plus, as is your dislike of bleeding<br />
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:I don't know what being super special awesome internet friends means, but I'm here if you need any help with the wiki. You can leave a message here, and I'll try to respond quickly (usually within a day). --[[User:Badger|Badger]] 23:17, 31 December 2010 (MST)<br />
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== Thanks! ==<br />
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Hey. This is Dj00345. Thank you for letting me know to put a help section In the discussion page. I have been playing AD&D for a while now, but I am new to this website. I might be making a few more pages that I might need help on. If you would like you can help me work on them. If you would like to, just comment on my talk page. If I get a message from you, then I will send you the names of the pages. I am new to this so I don't know how to link pages. Unless it just doesnt show them on my screen. But thanks again, and remember, if you would like to help me, just leave a comment. Thanks again Badger!<br />
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== Problem? ==<br />
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Hey badger! You told me to comment on your talk page if I had a question. Well whenever I link something to a page, it shows that page as red, when I already created that page. Can you help me and tell me what to do? --Dj00345<br />
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:Alright, well, it seems what you're doing is just not linking them quite properly. You're typing <nowiki>[[Lord Kray]]</nowiki>, for example, when you should be typing <nowiki>[[Lord Kray_(3.5e_NPC)|Lord Kray]]</nowiki>. The way a link works is like this: <nowiki>[[Name_of_Page|Display Text]]</nowiki>. If you do everything right, it should be blue text, like this: [[Lord Kray_(3.5e_NPC)|Lord Kray]]. I hope that clears things up. --[[User:Badger|Badger]] 18:48, 3 January 2011 (MST)<br />
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It did thanks!<br />
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==Thanks==<br />
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Thanks for the info! Since you said you will chime in, I figure I can just post what I am trying to do on my own talk page. First thing I am working on finishing is a monster/race. I have most of the kinks worked out so far that I have noticed or that my friends have, but you know how it goes. Second is that old problem of a Low Magic Realm or World. I have an idea on how to do it but the only thing I can think of is from either First or Second Edition, and it has been several years since I played either one. Nor do I even have the books to look through anymore. I will now go post what I have for my Monster/Race in my own talk page. I would link it but I'm not sure what the link would be.<br />
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Daryl<br />
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: Hey, I was just looking at your New User Guide and started to wonder a few things. Is there a chance that you can show me a guide or tell me how to code my own user page to be similar to yours? Not exactly similar but as in "About me" and "goals" and such. Thanks again for the help you have given me thus far. [[User:Lyrad8791|Lyrad8791]] 02:04, 4 January 2011 (MST)<br />
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::My first recommendation would be to steal it. In my opinion the best way to learn things is to screw around with it on your own. Just "edit" my user page, copy the text, and close it without changing anything, then go edit your page and paste it in there. Soon enough you'll be able to figure out how to change colors, titles, fonts, and everything else. Other users also have done some different things with their pages, and you might want to check them out to see if you like what they have going on. Some people have their pages set up as if they are a 3.5e Creature/Race. Others just use it as a list of everything they've done. --[[User:Badger|Badger]] 10:11, 4 January 2011 (MST)<br />
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==Creature Creation==<br />
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Hey, I made my creature as best as I can using the template you showed me. For some reason it was not giving me the code usage for the special qualities and such on the basic page so I went and found a page that was using it. From there things seemed to work out. It now has its own page in the Creatures section... not completely sure as to which section since I just pressed add new creature. Anyway, I figured you would like to know how far I have made it, and that if nothing else you will know where to find it. Also, since you mentioned you might chime in and give suggestions and such when you get to look at it. [http://www.dandwiki.com/wiki/Dimidium_Troll_%283.5e_Creature%29 Dimidium Troll] Also it seems that I have figured out how to link into pages as well. You are a good teacher, thanks for the instruction! [[User:Lyrad8791|Lyrad8791]] 22:56, 4 January 2011 (MST)<br />
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==Spam==<br />
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I have left a similar message on Green Dragons Talk page but I figure I should be thorough with this. It seems there are a few Users that are posting spam and doing a redirect for their User page to the mentioned Spam. One instance is this link [[http://www.dandwiki.com/wiki/Best_Electronic_Cigarette_Review here.]] I don't know the procedure for deleting spam so I am asking you and the owner. I was just wondering if I should just mention it and leave be or if I should delete the contents of the page since I don't know how I would delete the page itself. [[User:Lyrad8791|Lyrad8791]] 23:57, 8 January 2011 (MST)<br />
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:Well, the long and the short of it is you shouldn't probably bother to do anything. Only Admin's can totally delete a page. Likewise, only admins can ban a user. Whenever I come across spam, I blank the page, and then add a delete template. After that, I save changes with something like "Delete this spam" in the edit summary. Usually Jazzman is pretty good about catching these and deleting them for real. I don't know the official site policy on users handling spam, but no one has asked me to stop, so I still do it. One thing, however, is to make sure that the page never had any content on it. We don't want to delete a page that once had content, just because it now has spam. Like I said, us users can't do much in the way of permanent change (that's the admin's job), so if you want to turn a blind eye, no one will blame you. However, if you delete a bunch, someone might give you a nifty little barnstar like I have at the top of this page. --[[User:Badger|Badger]] 00:02, 9 January 2011 (MST)<br />
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== Creating an Animal ==<br />
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So... you mentioned something about tables and things like that? --[[User:Ozzy1234567890|Ozzy1234567890]] 11:04, 24 January 2011 (MST)</div>Ozzy1234567890https://www.dandwiki.com/w/index.php?title=Talk:Main_Page&diff=504308Talk:Main Page2011-01-24T17:54:50Z<p>Ozzy1234567890: /* Advice on Creating Animal */</p>
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== Anti Wiki Criticism ==<br />
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This is the most useful Wiki I have ever found on D&D, (and I've seen a LOT of on-line references). I am currently running an adventure and I keep this site open on my lap-top as I play. It saves me a great deal of time and speeds up play considerably. I almost never even open my Monster Manual anymore.<br />
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Kudos to the WebMaster. --[[User:Gildavinor|Gildavinor]] 18:13, 25 September 2009 (MDT)<br />
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:I agree very strongly with you, Gild! Though I didn't sign in very often previously, I absolutely adore this Wiki. It's the pinnacle of Dungeons and Dragons research and innovation. --[[User:Harry Mason|Harry Mason]] 18:42, 25 September 2009 (MDT)<br />
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::Taking sides in any instance is a bad idea... Neutrality is a great observational instrument if one is not affiliated therein. --[[User:Green Dragon|Green Dragon]] 21:51, 25 September 2009 (MDT)<br />
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:::Totally agree. --[[User:Lord Mattos|Lord Mattos]] 11:14, 29 November 2009 (MST)<br />
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== Two Millionth View! ==<br />
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Looks like today was [[Special:Statistics|the day]] folks! 2 million views on the main page! &nbsp;<small><span style="border: 1px solid black; -moz-border-radius:10px">[[User:Hooper|'''<span style="background-color:White; color:Black; -moz-border-radius-topleft:10px; -moz-border-radius-bottomleft:10px"> Hooper </span>''']][[User talk:Hooper|<span style="background-color:Black; color:white; -moz-border-radius-bottomleft:10px; -moz-border-radius-topleft:10px">&nbsp;&nbsp;talk&nbsp;&nbsp;</span>]][[Special:Contributions/Hooper|<span style="background-color:black; color:white">&nbsp;&nbsp;contribs&nbsp;&nbsp;</span>]][[Special:Emailuser/Hooper|<span style="background-color:black; color:white; -moz-border-radius-bottomright:10px; -moz-border-radius-topright:10px">&nbsp;&nbsp;email&nbsp;&nbsp;</span>]]</span></small> 12:46, 14 October 2009 (MDT)<br />
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:Yeah, now there are 2,299,388 views (Jan. 13,2010)! Wohoo! --[[User:Io|Io]] 16:52, 13 January 2010<br />
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And now, in the november of 2011, we have 3,080,184 views!<br />
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== Size ==<br />
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how many Megabytes is this whole site? {{Unsigned|216.12.83.73|22:29, 15 November 2009 (MDT)}}<br />
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:Why? --[[User:Green Dragon|Green Dragon]] 23:40, 15 November 2009 (MST)<br />
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::I was thinking of copying the source code so i cant look at it offline--[[User:Lo-Chi|Lt.Dan]] 07:20, 16 November 2009 (MST)<br />
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:::You don't need the size of D&D Wiki as a whole when looking at the source code ("''View Page Source''" for Mozilla Firefox). --[[User:Green Dragon|Green Dragon]] 12:12, 16 November 2009 (MST)<br />
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== The Tavern ==<br />
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After a huge hiatus I'm finally back to D&D Wiki (and happy to return!) following a long period of being almost broke. I notice that the Tavern, which was gone when I first had to go...still isn't back. That was one of my favorite parts of the Wiki, and I hope I'm just being stupid and missing it somewhere. Is it gone for good? --[[User:Harry Mason|Harry Mason]] 07:07, 4 February 2010 (UTC)<br />
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:It actually was discontinued. There is no "official" reason as to now however take a look at [[Discussion:The Tavern: use, expansion, and availability.]]. The main reason is "''...it is quite childish and immature at times and I feel at times it decreases the seriousness of D&D Wiki with childish behavior and immaturity.''" [[User:Green Dragon|Green Dragon]] "Discussion:The Tavern: use, expansion, and availability." 21:02, 20 November 2009 (MST). --[[User:Green Dragon|Green Dragon]] 22:07, 4 February 2010 (UTC)<br />
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::Ah...oh well. That's a little sad to me, but I can see the reasoning behind it, it -was- rather vulgar at times. Thank you for replying. :) --[[User:Harry Mason|Harry Mason]] 01:49, 5 February 2010 (UTC)<br />
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:::I'm coming back too and I too liked the tavern... I agree with the reasoning, but I still think we should have an effective way of conversation, since a wiki is not the best tool for talking...<br>Isn't there something that could be implemented in the place of the tavern (and maybe have some rules as to swearing and misbehaviour, making disrespectful users suspended/banned from using it)?--[[User:ElfsMaster|ElfsMaster]] 10:49, 5 February 2010 (UTC)<br />
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::::But this '''is''' a wiki, and by not having the sidetrack of a chat users may tend to rely more on the already established discussion tool. Or they can leave messages on talk pages of other users. It actually encourages the opening of discussions and talks between users on the wiki - which can lead to more wiki additions and improvements, instead of just idle chatter. &nbsp;<small><span style="border: 1px solid black; -moz-border-radius:10px">[[User:Hooper|'''<span style="background-color:White; color:Black; -moz-border-radius-topleft:10px; -moz-border-radius-bottomleft:10px"> Hooper </span>''']][[User talk:Hooper|<span style="background-color:Black; color:white; -moz-border-radius-bottomleft:10px; -moz-border-radius-topleft:10px">&nbsp;&nbsp;talk&nbsp;&nbsp;</span>]][[Special:Contributions/Hooper|<span style="background-color:black; color:white">&nbsp;&nbsp;contribs&nbsp;&nbsp;</span>]][[Special:Emailuser/Hooper|<span style="background-color:black; color:white; -moz-border-radius-bottomright:10px; -moz-border-radius-topright:10px">&nbsp;&nbsp;email&nbsp;&nbsp;</span>]]</span></small> 14:07, 5 February 2010 (UTC)<br />
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:::::Appealing to people in real time is more effective than doing so passively, from what I've found. Also, just because serious discussion does not happen constantly doesn't mean it never does. I understand that a decision has been made however, so that's all I'll say on the matter. -- [[User:Jota|Jota]] 14:20, 5 February 2010 (UTC)<br />
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::::::Why not do something like what facebook has and when a user is logged in, they have a little chat bar? i know there are a lot of difficulties with that, including having "friends lists" and the like, but its an idea.<br />
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== Search Incapacitation ==<br />
The search function has been completely nonfunctional for me for a good few days, maybe half a week or more now. Once in a while I'll nail to a T an article's name, and it'll transport me there. Just hitting Search or mistyping anything causes it to utterly fail for me. Is this just a localized problem (which I don't think it is, I've used 3 different computers to try and access it, all were on different networks) or what's going on? --[[User:Harry Mason|Harry Mason]] 05:08, 26 February 2010 (UTC)<br />
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:Is it actually giving you an error, or just pulling up the extended/advanced search function ''(which is normal when you don't type an article name perfectly)''?. &nbsp;<small><span style="border: 1px solid black; -moz-border-radius:10px">[[User:Hooper|'''<span style="background-color:White; color:Black; -moz-border-radius-topleft:10px; -moz-border-radius-bottomleft:10px"> Hooper </span>''']][[User talk:Hooper|<span style="background-color:Black; color:white; -moz-border-radius-bottomleft:10px; -moz-border-radius-topleft:10px">&nbsp;&nbsp;talk&nbsp;&nbsp;</span>]][[Special:Contributions/Hooper|<span style="background-color:black; color:white">&nbsp;&nbsp;contribs&nbsp;&nbsp;</span>]][[Special:Emailuser/Hooper|<span style="background-color:black; color:white; -moz-border-radius-bottomright:10px; -moz-border-radius-topright:10px">&nbsp;&nbsp;email&nbsp;&nbsp;</span>]]</span></small> 13:28, 26 February 2010 (UTC)<br />
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::I'm having the same issues, the message "Query failed: connection to localhost:3312 failed (errno=111, msg=Connection refused)" appears when I try to search for something.<br />
::I'm having a similar problem, mainly in that I can't browse things, I can only see things when I search for them, which, makes looking at the diffrent races, quite difficult [[User:Sevant|Sevant]] 18:23, 5 July 2010 (UTC)<br />
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:::Search is working once again. --[[User:Green Dragon|Green Dragon]] 12:14, 22 August 2010 (MDT)<br />
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== Official Content Designation ==<br />
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Could a homebrew template be added? I keep coming here after a Google search and I keep finding overpowered homebrew things (like [[Paragon_of_Light/Darkness_%283.5e_Prestige_Class%29]]) and it usually takes me a moment to figure out that it's not official, just something some random person made up. I'd prefer to see some sort of note to that effect at the top of the page. [[User:Banaticus|Banaticus]] 02:57, 21 May 2010 (UTC)<br />
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:Ummm... A template is already added on all official pages. This is a homebrew site, so all articles are automatically assumed to be homebrew unless they are specified otherwise.--[[User:Vrail|Vrail]] 03:10, 21 May 2010 (UTC)<br />
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::There already is a homebrew template. Look down at the bottom of that page you linked... see where it says "{{DnD Classes Breadcrumb}} &rarr; [[DnD Prestige Classes|Prestige Classes]]"? "Homebrew" is even in the wording of the template. If you are looking for ONLY SRD material then look for pages starting with "SRD:". They will all have OGL templates as well.<br />
::Additionally, much of our homebrew content has ratings by other users, so you should know right away if it's overpowered. [[User:Jazzman831|Jazz]][[User talk:Jazzman831|Man]] 14:39, 21 May 2010 (UTC)<br />
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== Pictures Down? ==<br />
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While it might be my computer, it appears that something happened to the pictures on the site. They don't seem to be displaying. Am I wrong? Was there an announcement that I missed? [[User:Noname|Aristocles]] 05:20, 4 June 2010 (UTC)<br />
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:This question was already brought up on GD's talk page under [[User talk:Green Dragon#Images lost again|this header]]. However no clear answer was given by GD. All I know is that no, it is not your computer, and no there was no announcement. The pictures still exist on the media repository, however they are not linking properly. --[[User:Vrail|Vrail]] 13:05, 4 June 2010 (UTC)<br />
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::Images have been fixed. --[[User:Green Dragon|Green Dragon]] 12:12, 22 August 2010 (MDT)<br />
Are you sure? I dont see any- ANYWHERE!!!<br />
[[User:DragonFist|DragonFist]] 20:13, 17 December 2010 (MST)<br />
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== Marking a page as homebrew ==<br />
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How do we mark a page as homebrew? Take [Alon (3.5e Deity)] for instance. It turns out he's a homebrew god, although I don't see that anywhere on the page. It's sometimes difficult to tell the difference on this wiki between homebrew things and official things. [[Special:Contributions/97.93.94.242|97.93.94.242]] 12:42, 24 August 2010 (MDT)<br />
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:Any properly-created page should have a clear breadcrumb at the bottom of the page which leads back to a homebrew page. In addition any user-created content belongs in [[:Category:User]]. [[User:Jazzman831|Jazz]][[User talk:Jazzman831|Man]] 13:22, 27 August 2010 (MDT)<br />
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::You can also just click "3.5e Open Game Content" on the sidebar to take you to the "official" material. Almost everything on this site is homebrew. Because of that, what we do is mark pages that are official. If you don't see a template that says "Open Game Content", then the page you are viewing is essentially guaranteed to be homebrew content. --[[User:Badger|Badger]] 14:24, 27 August 2010 (MDT)<br />
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== 3 Million View ==<br />
Just a quick pat on the back, as per Statistics the main page has hit 3 million views. Too bad our news is months behind. &nbsp;<small><span style="border: 1px solid black; -moz-border-radius:10px">[[User:Hooper|'''<span style="background-color:White; color:Black; -moz-border-radius-topleft:10px; -moz-border-radius-bottomleft:10px"> Hooper </span>''']][[User talk:Hooper|<span style="background-color:Black; color:white; -moz-border-radius-bottomleft:10px; -moz-border-radius-topleft:10px">&nbsp;&nbsp;talk&nbsp;&nbsp;</span>]][[Special:Contributions/Hooper|<span style="background-color:black; color:white">&nbsp;&nbsp;contribs&nbsp;&nbsp;</span>]][[Special:Emailuser/Hooper|<span style="background-color:black; color:white; -moz-border-radius-bottomright:10px; -moz-border-radius-topright:10px">&nbsp;&nbsp;email&nbsp;&nbsp;</span>]]</span></small> 22:46, 3 January 2011 (MST)<br />
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== Advice on Creating Animal ==<br />
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Ok so i have no clue how to do this but i want to make an Exploding Chicken animal for D20M and all i know is that its a regular chicken that explodes when within 15ft of any nonchaotic for 1d6 damage at a range of 20ft. they have a total health of 3. they also are weak and are just mobile... firecracker i guess would be the best way of puting it. my DM said to just put it on here cause he wants to see what others think. thanks! *EDIT* i ment D20M Apocolypse<br />
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:I can't give you mechanical help with creating your creature, but I can give you wiki help. Go [[Add_a_New_D20M_Creature|here]] and replace "CreatureName" with "Exploding Chicken" or whatever you want to name it. Leave a space and (D20 Modern Creature) after the name, and then press "Create New Creature". It will take you to a page with a pre-load designed for creatures in the d20M universe (I don't know if that is the same as d20M Apocalypse, is it?). Like I said, I don't know anything about the d20M system, so I can't help you write your creature and balance it, but if you need help with tables or other wiki formatting, leave a message on my talk page. One last thing, don't forget to sign your posts by typing <nowiki> --~~~~ </nowiki>. --[[User:Badger|Badger]] 13:44, 21 January 2011 (MST)<br />
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::Thanks! and its pretty much the same as other systems. and i guess i ment that i needed tables for things like different sizes and their modifiers and things like that --[[User:Ozzy1234567890|Ozzy1234567890]] 10:54, 24 January 2011 (MST)</div>Ozzy1234567890https://www.dandwiki.com/w/index.php?title=Talk:D20_Modern&diff=503748Talk:D20 Modern2011-01-21T20:43:58Z<p>Ozzy1234567890: /* How do I make an animal? */ new section</p>
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<div>== Phoenix v0.1 == <br />
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I have a free d20 Modern expansion pack that I've been working on. It's a superhero system, the goal of which is to maintain total d20 compatibility and be an expansion pack, not a standalone product. You can find it here (http://members.shaw.ca/orionuk/Phoenix.v0.1.pdf). There are seven chapters. <br />
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Ch1 "Building a Hero" (character creation). <br />
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Ch2 "Classes" (superhero classes, built on the D&D model)<br />
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Ch3 "Skills" (the d20 Modern skills, arranged by class)<br />
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Ch4 "Feats" (a complete list of all D&D and d20 Modern feats, with some Psionic feats thrown in, and 40+ pages of original feats)<br />
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Ch5 "Powers" (50+ pages of superhero-style powers, from Flight to Extra Limbs to Webbing)<br />
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Ch6 "Combat and Movement" (fighting with superstrength, swinging, fighting in zero-G)<br />
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Ch7 "Running the Game" (the GMing chapter, notes on superheroes as a genre, tips on running any RPG)<br />
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Please feel free to download the game! It's a hobby project. If you email the address listed in the Introduction, I will send you any and all updates to the system that I make in the future. Updates come out every six weeks or so, or when I feel like avoiding my dissertation.<br />
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== Please ==<br />
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Please add a section for Advanced Classes. Modern class structure follows the order of:<br />
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* Advanced Class<br />
* Prestige Class<br />
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Advanced Classes are 10 levels, Prestige Classes are 5 levels. Base classes do not change often, though there have been (a couple) variant base classes created. The most customization of classes takes place in Advanced Classes. ~ ShadoStahker, WotC Modern board member<br />
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:I added it, thank you for telling me that. I do not play D20 Modern often, so...<br />
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::No problem, thanks for putting it up. I know a couple people on the WotC boards are also interested in a NPCs section (may be a good idea for the D&D part too). As well, there may be interest in a "talent trees" section for fan-made base class talent trees (if you aren't familiar, they're similar to class-specific feat trees, for base classes only). ~ ShadoStahker<br />
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:::NPCs... There's a link to such a wiki here: http://d20npcs.wikicities.com/wiki/D20_Modern_NPCs_by_Challenge_Rating<br />
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::::Actually, there's DnD NPCs there as well. --[[User:PsiSeveredHead|PsiSeveredHead]] 21:26, 15 February 2006 (MST) WotC board member<br />
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== Hello ==<br />
My name is [[User:Wolfen Fenrison|Wolfen]] , some of you may remember me from the WotC boards, anyway I'm the admid for the D20 modern section so any questions or requests can be directed at me, thank you.<br />
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:Hey Wolfen. The only thing I can think of is a "Talent Trees" section. I personally don't use expanded talent trees, but I know some do. They may fit under "Variant Rules", though. Also, the main page is now unlocked. I don't know if you'd want to lock it again, but I'd assume so. ~ ShadoStahker<br />
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::You are correct expanded talent trees should go under varient rules -Wolfen<br />
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== Hi ==<br />
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This is blackknight5k from the wotc boards, how's it going? Anyways, I was thinking that it might be a good idea to more organize d20 modern with something like "d20 past, d20 modern, d20 future" because I know no one likes to go through d20 past stuff to get to a new mecha, or something like that. It might not be a problem now, but it might become a little cluttered if this wiki takes off.<br />
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:neccesity... as of late i hae become rather busy, finding a job, kingdom hearts 2, important stuff like that. but maby latter this week the d20 modern page will get a major update. as for sections for past and future, submissions should be marked for modern, past, or future. - Wolfen<br />
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::Em Back... Well the update I promised is done, and I updated my campaign setting, it is good to see all the material has been posted since green dragon and I concived this section and then handed it over to me. My hope is that as this game grows and evolves community support and creativity will grow as well, and remember the only stupid idea is the one not acted upon. - Wolfen<br />
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:::I agree with ''blackknight5k'' we need to break down d20 Modern into d20 Past, d20 Modern, d20 Future, and most all d20 Apocalypse. These variations are core to d20 Modern and if they sub-catagories are implemented now it will stop confusion in the future. -- [[User:Sepsis|Sepsis]] 18:15, 7 February 2007 (MST)<br />
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::::I say okay, lets do it. However, before anything else, all the D20 Past need to be part of [[:Category:D20 Past]], all the D20 Modern need to be a part of [[:Category:D20 Modern]], etc. When this is done the change will be easy. --[[User:Green Dragon|Green Dragon]] 19:15, 7 February 2007 (MST)<br />
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:::::The category right now is D20M for modern stuff. It would be easy enough to use D20P for past, D20F for future, and D20A for apocalypse. And the shorthand would be kept. Do we want to do it this way or the longer way (spelling out modern, past, etc.)? I personally prefer the shorthand... --[[User:EldritchNumen|EldritchNumen]] 02:03, 9 February 2007 (MST)<br />
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::::::Shorthand. When I posted that I did not think of good "Shorthands" so I just wrote them long. Good thinking and the Shorthands should be used. --[[User:Green Dragon|Green Dragon]] 12:40, 11 February 2007 (MST)<br />
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== Keep em coming guys ==<br />
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I'm very pleased with the amount of matirial that is getting posted (the oil elemental is very sweet), I'm working on more stuff my self but job huntinh has priority right now. -Wolfen<br />
<br />
== Categories ==<br />
<br />
Are there any D20 modern categories? Virtually none of the pages have categories or "return to" bars. I'll start to add some, but I need to know what categories there are and (if there are none) what should be made (besides the obvious: D20 modern feats, classes, etc.). Help? --[[User:EldritchNumen|EldritchNumen]] 14:50, 18 December 2006 (MST)<br />
<br />
:To be honest, I really don't care that much about D20M. I don't play it, and I only added it to this site as an afterthought. So... when a new item is posted, or when the D&D section of D&D Wiki changes, I do not change the D20M section to reflect the D&D change. This section is a ''very'' primitive version of the D&D section. If you would like, go ahead and update it, and try to make it like the D&D section. If you have any questions of what categories are correct for what please feel free to ask me. --[[User:Green Dragon|Green Dragon]] 15:55, 18 December 2006 (MST)<br />
<br />
== Admin Cat change... ==<br />
<br />
Could an admin please change the category of this page from "D20Modern" to "D20 Modern". The second category will be the one used for all the D20 Modern pages. Thanks! --[[User:EldritchNumen|EldritchNumen]] 03:49, 19 December 2006 (MST)<br />
<br />
:I changed the category; but not to what you wanted. I think all D20M material should be under D20M category, not D20 Modern. I changed it to reflect this. Will this work for your modernization of [[D20 Modern]]? Now for the reason: In the begginging of the D&D section of this site, all the cateories were [[:Category:Dungeons and Dragons]], and as the D&D seciton changed all the categories became [[:Category:DnD]] (Even though many are still part of [[:Category:Dungeons and Dragons]]). So, since you are bringing this up to date, all the categories should be brought up to date. I hope I made sense... --[[User:Green Dragon|Green Dragon]] 15:02, 19 December 2006 (MST)<br />
<br />
== Updating Check Boxes ==<br />
<br />
I changed the equipment splash page. It can have a green check mark now. I'll fix up the rest in the coming days. ''':)''' --[[User:EldritchNumen|EldritchNumen]] 02:00, 9 February 2007 (MST)<br />
<br />
:Feats now, also. --[[User:EldritchNumen|EldritchNumen]] 03:35, 10 February 2007 (MST)<br />
<br />
::And Races and FX Abilities. All have been updated to mirror the DnD pages. --[[User:EldritchNumen|EldritchNumen]] 03:45, 10 February 2007 (MST)<br />
<br />
:::For the classes description on this page, the "and NPC..." should be removed. There are not NPC classes in D20 Modern. --[[User:EldritchNumen|EldritchNumen]] 21:04, 10 February 2007 (MST)<br />
<br />
::::Okay... <br />
::::*Classes<br />
::::**<strike>The actual pages need a dlpc header so they show up on the "With Descriptions" pages</strike><br />
::::**<strike>Since the MSRD has been added all the MSRD classes need to be linked to here just like [[DnD Classes]].</strike><br />
::::**the "By type" pages need to be made with dlpcu's.<br />
::::*Equipment<br />
::::**This needs to be like [[DnD Equipment]] with the table (maybe?).<br />
::::*Feats<br />
::::**Shouldn't these be organized into general categories than put into wikitables (like [[DnD Feats]])?<br />
::::*FX Abilities<br />
::::**They need to be broken up by class than (so it is ''more'' advanced than [[DnD Feats]]) into dpl's by level.<br />
::::*Races<br />
::::**There must be a LA page; an all page, and the LA pages should include a dplcu list (like LA 6 races on [[3.5e Races]]). Also, this page needs to look like [[3.5e Races]] when done (LA on the side with links to other places throughout). <br />
::::This is all I can think of now, and I am sorry if this is a lot (I left all the harder ones to be done later ''':)'''). If you want help ask and I will be more than willing to help. --[[User:Green Dragon|Green Dragon]] 13:08, 11 February 2007 (MST)<br />
<br />
:::::I'm going to put off working on the equipment and FX Abilities for now, since there is almost no content there. It can be updated later, if necessary. For now the simply DPLC lists I've implemented should work. Classes is first up for work; I'm actually finally getting there on some of the things to do. Next up will be races and, as I go, fixing all the tables into the "d20" class (I'm doing this as I go, for the most part). --[[User:EldritchNumen|EldritchNumen]] 02:04, 13 February 2007 (MST)<br />
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::::::Okay. So far classes looks better than before. Good work so far. --[[User:Green Dragon|Green Dragon]] 22:04, 13 February 2007 (MST)<br />
<br />
== Checklist of Updates and Revisions ==<br />
<br />
# Add preload functions:<br />
#*<s>[[D20 Modern Character Optimizations]]</s><br />
#*<s>[[D20 Modern Classes]]</s><br />
#*<s>[[D20 Modern Feats]]</s><br />
#*[[D20 Modern Races]]<br />
#*[[D20 Modern Creatures]]<br />
#*[[D20 Modern NPCs]]<br />
# D20 Modern Classes:<br />
#*<s> Add dplcus for classes by type.</s><br />
#* <s>Make the MSRD links link to ''only'' the class type in question with their own dlp page while not linking to [[Classes (MSRD)]].</s><br />
# Update all tables to d20 class.<br />
# <s>Update all categories to newest system.</s><br />
# Change all the pages to the formatting used in the preload (the very old pages are just haphazardly thrown together, and it doesn't look very professional).<br />
# Make a D20 Modern specific creature template (with Massive Damage Threshold, etc.).<br />
# Major overhaul of [[D20 Modern Races]]; it needs to look like the DnD version, with LA categories, an "All" page, etc.<br />
<br />
::This is mainly just for me, and will grow as other important things come up. But feel free to add things if they come up. &mdash;[[User:EldritchNumen|EldritchNumen]] 17:03, 20 February 2007 (MST)<br />
<br />
:::Some of this is going to be a pain to do without the ability to edit the MSRD. For example, the categories should be renamed, and the pages need to be split (there needs to be just a MSRD:Basic Classes page, that has the category "Basic Class (MSRD)", etc. Otherwise setting up some of the pages, such as the class splash page, can't be done with any sort of efficiency or order (see 2B above about classes, for example)... --[[User:EldritchNumen|EldritchNumen]] 15:13, 21 February 2007 (MST)<br />
<br />
::::Hm... All I can say is ask Dmilewski as he is in charge of the MSRD ''or'' just go for an RfA. --[[User:Green Dragon|Green Dragon]] 11:43, 22 February 2007 (MST)<br />
<br />
:::::I removed all the checks and x's from the page, primarily to make it look better. Is this okay? I figured I know pretty well what still has to be updated, and I'm keeping a running list here, so we don't need to clutter the home page with it... what do you think? &mdash;[[User:EldritchNumen|EldritchNumen]] 00:06, 9 March 2007 (MST)<br />
<br />
::::::I only speak for myself however it should be okay. Since you have taken over D20M I am sure you know what needs to be done. Removing the X's is a good move so visitors understand their is content even though X's used to be their. --[[User:Green Dragon|Green Dragon]] 10:48, 9 March 2007 (MST)<br />
<br />
== Homebrew Occupations? ==<br />
<br />
Please do add a category for homebrew occupations, I have some I'd like to share. [[User:81.233.196.49|81.233.196.49]] 04:31, 1 June 2008 (MDT)<br />
<br />
:Done. Enjoy! ''':)''' &mdash;[[User:EldritchNumen|EldritchNumen]] 13:27, 2 June 2008 (MDT)<br />
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==Homebrew to-do list==<br />
We definitely need to sort out the re organisation of the classes at least... --[[User:Sabre070|Sabre070]] 16:05, 14 November 2008 (MST)<br />
<br />
== Add Homebrew Skills? ==<br />
<br />
Please add a category for homebrew skills, I have some ideas that I would like to share. -[[User:Sarrow|Sarrow]] 23:08, 8 February 2009 (MST)<br />
<br />
== Elven Avenger... ==<br />
<br />
I have an elven avenger and I need help on any homebrewing abilities that anyone can think of. Please help, Vega Theren...<br />
<br />
== How do I make an animal? ==<br />
<br />
Ok so i have no clue how to do this but i want to make an Exploding Chicken animal for D20M Apocalypse and all i know is that its a regular chicken that explodes when within 15ft of any nonchaotic for 1d6 damage at a range of 20ft. they have a total health of 3. they also are weak and are just mobile... firecracker i guess would be the best way of puting it. my DM said to just put it on here cause he wants to see what others think. thanks!<br />
<br />
== How do I make an animal? ==<br />
<br />
Ok so i have no clue how to do this but i want to make an Exploding Chicken animal for D20M Apocalypse and all i know is that its a regular chicken that explodes when within 15ft of any nonchaotic for 1d6 damage at a range of 20ft. they have a total health of 3. they also are weak and are just mobile... firecracker i guess would be the best way of puting it. my DM said to just put it on here cause he wants to see what others think. thanks!</div>Ozzy1234567890https://www.dandwiki.com/w/index.php?title=Talk:D20_Modern&diff=503747Talk:D20 Modern2011-01-21T20:43:56Z<p>Ozzy1234567890: /* How do I make an animal? */ new section</p>
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<div>== Phoenix v0.1 == <br />
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I have a free d20 Modern expansion pack that I've been working on. It's a superhero system, the goal of which is to maintain total d20 compatibility and be an expansion pack, not a standalone product. You can find it here (http://members.shaw.ca/orionuk/Phoenix.v0.1.pdf). There are seven chapters. <br />
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Ch1 "Building a Hero" (character creation). <br />
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Ch2 "Classes" (superhero classes, built on the D&D model)<br />
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Ch3 "Skills" (the d20 Modern skills, arranged by class)<br />
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Ch4 "Feats" (a complete list of all D&D and d20 Modern feats, with some Psionic feats thrown in, and 40+ pages of original feats)<br />
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Ch5 "Powers" (50+ pages of superhero-style powers, from Flight to Extra Limbs to Webbing)<br />
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Ch6 "Combat and Movement" (fighting with superstrength, swinging, fighting in zero-G)<br />
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Ch7 "Running the Game" (the GMing chapter, notes on superheroes as a genre, tips on running any RPG)<br />
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Please feel free to download the game! It's a hobby project. If you email the address listed in the Introduction, I will send you any and all updates to the system that I make in the future. Updates come out every six weeks or so, or when I feel like avoiding my dissertation.<br />
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== Please ==<br />
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Please add a section for Advanced Classes. Modern class structure follows the order of:<br />
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* Base Class<br />
* Advanced Class<br />
* Prestige Class<br />
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Advanced Classes are 10 levels, Prestige Classes are 5 levels. Base classes do not change often, though there have been (a couple) variant base classes created. The most customization of classes takes place in Advanced Classes. ~ ShadoStahker, WotC Modern board member<br />
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:I added it, thank you for telling me that. I do not play D20 Modern often, so...<br />
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::No problem, thanks for putting it up. I know a couple people on the WotC boards are also interested in a NPCs section (may be a good idea for the D&D part too). As well, there may be interest in a "talent trees" section for fan-made base class talent trees (if you aren't familiar, they're similar to class-specific feat trees, for base classes only). ~ ShadoStahker<br />
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:::NPCs... There's a link to such a wiki here: http://d20npcs.wikicities.com/wiki/D20_Modern_NPCs_by_Challenge_Rating<br />
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::::Actually, there's DnD NPCs there as well. --[[User:PsiSeveredHead|PsiSeveredHead]] 21:26, 15 February 2006 (MST) WotC board member<br />
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== Hello ==<br />
My name is [[User:Wolfen Fenrison|Wolfen]] , some of you may remember me from the WotC boards, anyway I'm the admid for the D20 modern section so any questions or requests can be directed at me, thank you.<br />
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:Hey Wolfen. The only thing I can think of is a "Talent Trees" section. I personally don't use expanded talent trees, but I know some do. They may fit under "Variant Rules", though. Also, the main page is now unlocked. I don't know if you'd want to lock it again, but I'd assume so. ~ ShadoStahker<br />
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::You are correct expanded talent trees should go under varient rules -Wolfen<br />
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== Hi ==<br />
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This is blackknight5k from the wotc boards, how's it going? Anyways, I was thinking that it might be a good idea to more organize d20 modern with something like "d20 past, d20 modern, d20 future" because I know no one likes to go through d20 past stuff to get to a new mecha, or something like that. It might not be a problem now, but it might become a little cluttered if this wiki takes off.<br />
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:neccesity... as of late i hae become rather busy, finding a job, kingdom hearts 2, important stuff like that. but maby latter this week the d20 modern page will get a major update. as for sections for past and future, submissions should be marked for modern, past, or future. - Wolfen<br />
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::Em Back... Well the update I promised is done, and I updated my campaign setting, it is good to see all the material has been posted since green dragon and I concived this section and then handed it over to me. My hope is that as this game grows and evolves community support and creativity will grow as well, and remember the only stupid idea is the one not acted upon. - Wolfen<br />
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:::I agree with ''blackknight5k'' we need to break down d20 Modern into d20 Past, d20 Modern, d20 Future, and most all d20 Apocalypse. These variations are core to d20 Modern and if they sub-catagories are implemented now it will stop confusion in the future. -- [[User:Sepsis|Sepsis]] 18:15, 7 February 2007 (MST)<br />
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::::I say okay, lets do it. However, before anything else, all the D20 Past need to be part of [[:Category:D20 Past]], all the D20 Modern need to be a part of [[:Category:D20 Modern]], etc. When this is done the change will be easy. --[[User:Green Dragon|Green Dragon]] 19:15, 7 February 2007 (MST)<br />
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:::::The category right now is D20M for modern stuff. It would be easy enough to use D20P for past, D20F for future, and D20A for apocalypse. And the shorthand would be kept. Do we want to do it this way or the longer way (spelling out modern, past, etc.)? I personally prefer the shorthand... --[[User:EldritchNumen|EldritchNumen]] 02:03, 9 February 2007 (MST)<br />
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::::::Shorthand. When I posted that I did not think of good "Shorthands" so I just wrote them long. Good thinking and the Shorthands should be used. --[[User:Green Dragon|Green Dragon]] 12:40, 11 February 2007 (MST)<br />
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== Keep em coming guys ==<br />
<br />
I'm very pleased with the amount of matirial that is getting posted (the oil elemental is very sweet), I'm working on more stuff my self but job huntinh has priority right now. -Wolfen<br />
<br />
== Categories ==<br />
<br />
Are there any D20 modern categories? Virtually none of the pages have categories or "return to" bars. I'll start to add some, but I need to know what categories there are and (if there are none) what should be made (besides the obvious: D20 modern feats, classes, etc.). Help? --[[User:EldritchNumen|EldritchNumen]] 14:50, 18 December 2006 (MST)<br />
<br />
:To be honest, I really don't care that much about D20M. I don't play it, and I only added it to this site as an afterthought. So... when a new item is posted, or when the D&D section of D&D Wiki changes, I do not change the D20M section to reflect the D&D change. This section is a ''very'' primitive version of the D&D section. If you would like, go ahead and update it, and try to make it like the D&D section. If you have any questions of what categories are correct for what please feel free to ask me. --[[User:Green Dragon|Green Dragon]] 15:55, 18 December 2006 (MST)<br />
<br />
== Admin Cat change... ==<br />
<br />
Could an admin please change the category of this page from "D20Modern" to "D20 Modern". The second category will be the one used for all the D20 Modern pages. Thanks! --[[User:EldritchNumen|EldritchNumen]] 03:49, 19 December 2006 (MST)<br />
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:I changed the category; but not to what you wanted. I think all D20M material should be under D20M category, not D20 Modern. I changed it to reflect this. Will this work for your modernization of [[D20 Modern]]? Now for the reason: In the begginging of the D&D section of this site, all the cateories were [[:Category:Dungeons and Dragons]], and as the D&D seciton changed all the categories became [[:Category:DnD]] (Even though many are still part of [[:Category:Dungeons and Dragons]]). So, since you are bringing this up to date, all the categories should be brought up to date. I hope I made sense... --[[User:Green Dragon|Green Dragon]] 15:02, 19 December 2006 (MST)<br />
<br />
== Updating Check Boxes ==<br />
<br />
I changed the equipment splash page. It can have a green check mark now. I'll fix up the rest in the coming days. ''':)''' --[[User:EldritchNumen|EldritchNumen]] 02:00, 9 February 2007 (MST)<br />
<br />
:Feats now, also. --[[User:EldritchNumen|EldritchNumen]] 03:35, 10 February 2007 (MST)<br />
<br />
::And Races and FX Abilities. All have been updated to mirror the DnD pages. --[[User:EldritchNumen|EldritchNumen]] 03:45, 10 February 2007 (MST)<br />
<br />
:::For the classes description on this page, the "and NPC..." should be removed. There are not NPC classes in D20 Modern. --[[User:EldritchNumen|EldritchNumen]] 21:04, 10 February 2007 (MST)<br />
<br />
::::Okay... <br />
::::*Classes<br />
::::**<strike>The actual pages need a dlpc header so they show up on the "With Descriptions" pages</strike><br />
::::**<strike>Since the MSRD has been added all the MSRD classes need to be linked to here just like [[DnD Classes]].</strike><br />
::::**the "By type" pages need to be made with dlpcu's.<br />
::::*Equipment<br />
::::**This needs to be like [[DnD Equipment]] with the table (maybe?).<br />
::::*Feats<br />
::::**Shouldn't these be organized into general categories than put into wikitables (like [[DnD Feats]])?<br />
::::*FX Abilities<br />
::::**They need to be broken up by class than (so it is ''more'' advanced than [[DnD Feats]]) into dpl's by level.<br />
::::*Races<br />
::::**There must be a LA page; an all page, and the LA pages should include a dplcu list (like LA 6 races on [[3.5e Races]]). Also, this page needs to look like [[3.5e Races]] when done (LA on the side with links to other places throughout). <br />
::::This is all I can think of now, and I am sorry if this is a lot (I left all the harder ones to be done later ''':)'''). If you want help ask and I will be more than willing to help. --[[User:Green Dragon|Green Dragon]] 13:08, 11 February 2007 (MST)<br />
<br />
:::::I'm going to put off working on the equipment and FX Abilities for now, since there is almost no content there. It can be updated later, if necessary. For now the simply DPLC lists I've implemented should work. Classes is first up for work; I'm actually finally getting there on some of the things to do. Next up will be races and, as I go, fixing all the tables into the "d20" class (I'm doing this as I go, for the most part). --[[User:EldritchNumen|EldritchNumen]] 02:04, 13 February 2007 (MST)<br />
<br />
::::::Okay. So far classes looks better than before. Good work so far. --[[User:Green Dragon|Green Dragon]] 22:04, 13 February 2007 (MST)<br />
<br />
== Checklist of Updates and Revisions ==<br />
<br />
# Add preload functions:<br />
#*<s>[[D20 Modern Character Optimizations]]</s><br />
#*<s>[[D20 Modern Classes]]</s><br />
#*<s>[[D20 Modern Feats]]</s><br />
#*[[D20 Modern Races]]<br />
#*[[D20 Modern Creatures]]<br />
#*[[D20 Modern NPCs]]<br />
# D20 Modern Classes:<br />
#*<s> Add dplcus for classes by type.</s><br />
#* <s>Make the MSRD links link to ''only'' the class type in question with their own dlp page while not linking to [[Classes (MSRD)]].</s><br />
# Update all tables to d20 class.<br />
# <s>Update all categories to newest system.</s><br />
# Change all the pages to the formatting used in the preload (the very old pages are just haphazardly thrown together, and it doesn't look very professional).<br />
# Make a D20 Modern specific creature template (with Massive Damage Threshold, etc.).<br />
# Major overhaul of [[D20 Modern Races]]; it needs to look like the DnD version, with LA categories, an "All" page, etc.<br />
<br />
::This is mainly just for me, and will grow as other important things come up. But feel free to add things if they come up. &mdash;[[User:EldritchNumen|EldritchNumen]] 17:03, 20 February 2007 (MST)<br />
<br />
:::Some of this is going to be a pain to do without the ability to edit the MSRD. For example, the categories should be renamed, and the pages need to be split (there needs to be just a MSRD:Basic Classes page, that has the category "Basic Class (MSRD)", etc. Otherwise setting up some of the pages, such as the class splash page, can't be done with any sort of efficiency or order (see 2B above about classes, for example)... --[[User:EldritchNumen|EldritchNumen]] 15:13, 21 February 2007 (MST)<br />
<br />
::::Hm... All I can say is ask Dmilewski as he is in charge of the MSRD ''or'' just go for an RfA. --[[User:Green Dragon|Green Dragon]] 11:43, 22 February 2007 (MST)<br />
<br />
:::::I removed all the checks and x's from the page, primarily to make it look better. Is this okay? I figured I know pretty well what still has to be updated, and I'm keeping a running list here, so we don't need to clutter the home page with it... what do you think? &mdash;[[User:EldritchNumen|EldritchNumen]] 00:06, 9 March 2007 (MST)<br />
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::::::I only speak for myself however it should be okay. Since you have taken over D20M I am sure you know what needs to be done. Removing the X's is a good move so visitors understand their is content even though X's used to be their. --[[User:Green Dragon|Green Dragon]] 10:48, 9 March 2007 (MST)<br />
<br />
== Homebrew Occupations? ==<br />
<br />
Please do add a category for homebrew occupations, I have some I'd like to share. [[User:81.233.196.49|81.233.196.49]] 04:31, 1 June 2008 (MDT)<br />
<br />
:Done. Enjoy! ''':)''' &mdash;[[User:EldritchNumen|EldritchNumen]] 13:27, 2 June 2008 (MDT)<br />
<br />
==Homebrew to-do list==<br />
We definitely need to sort out the re organisation of the classes at least... --[[User:Sabre070|Sabre070]] 16:05, 14 November 2008 (MST)<br />
<br />
== Add Homebrew Skills? ==<br />
<br />
Please add a category for homebrew skills, I have some ideas that I would like to share. -[[User:Sarrow|Sarrow]] 23:08, 8 February 2009 (MST)<br />
<br />
== Elven Avenger... ==<br />
<br />
I have an elven avenger and I need help on any homebrewing abilities that anyone can think of. Please help, Vega Theren...<br />
<br />
== How do I make an animal? ==<br />
<br />
Ok so i have no clue how to do this but i want to make an Exploding Chicken animal for D20M Apocalypse and all i know is that its a regular chicken that explodes when within 15ft of any nonchaotic for 1d6 damage at a range of 20ft. they have a total health of 3. they also are weak and are just mobile... firecracker i guess would be the best way of puting it. my DM said to just put it on here cause he wants to see what others think. thanks!</div>Ozzy1234567890https://www.dandwiki.com/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Ozzy1234567890&diff=503735User talk:Ozzy12345678902011-01-21T18:07:55Z<p>Ozzy1234567890: Created page with "Been searching D&D Wiki for a while now but just got an account. Any tips for creating creatures? like a refferences page of possible sizes and stats and things like that?"</p>
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<div>Been searching D&D Wiki for a while now but just got an account. Any tips for creating creatures? like a refferences page of possible sizes and stats and things like that?</div>Ozzy1234567890https://www.dandwiki.com/w/index.php?title=User:Ozzy1234567890&diff=503734User:Ozzy12345678902011-01-21T18:05:43Z<p>Ozzy1234567890: Created page with "Hey, this is Ozzy! No, not Ozzy Osbourne. I am a Jack-of-all-Trades, so to speek, in real life. In D&D, I am a Fast Hero Spider Rider in D20 Apoclypse. Not much else to say so I ..."</p>
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<div>Hey, this is Ozzy! No, not Ozzy Osbourne. I am a Jack-of-all-Trades, so to speek, in real life. In D&D, I am a Fast Hero Spider Rider in D20 Apoclypse. Not much else to say so I guess I better get back to my studies!</div>Ozzy1234567890https://www.dandwiki.com/w/index.php?title=Talk:Main_Page&diff=503733Talk:Main Page2011-01-21T17:57:02Z<p>Ozzy1234567890: /* The Tavern */</p>
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== Anti Wiki Criticism ==<br />
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This is the most useful Wiki I have ever found on D&D, (and I've seen a LOT of on-line references). I am currently running an adventure and I keep this site open on my lap-top as I play. It saves me a great deal of time and speeds up play considerably. I almost never even open my Monster Manual anymore.<br />
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Kudos to the WebMaster. --[[User:Gildavinor|Gildavinor]] 18:13, 25 September 2009 (MDT)<br />
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:I agree very strongly with you, Gild! Though I didn't sign in very often previously, I absolutely adore this Wiki. It's the pinnacle of Dungeons and Dragons research and innovation. --[[User:Harry Mason|Harry Mason]] 18:42, 25 September 2009 (MDT)<br />
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::Taking sides in any instance is a bad idea... Neutrality is a great observational instrument if one is not affiliated therein. --[[User:Green Dragon|Green Dragon]] 21:51, 25 September 2009 (MDT)<br />
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:::Totally agree. --[[User:Lord Mattos|Lord Mattos]] 11:14, 29 November 2009 (MST)<br />
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== Two Millionth View! ==<br />
<br />
Looks like today was [[Special:Statistics|the day]] folks! 2 million views on the main page! &nbsp;<small><span style="border: 1px solid black; -moz-border-radius:10px">[[User:Hooper|'''<span style="background-color:White; color:Black; -moz-border-radius-topleft:10px; -moz-border-radius-bottomleft:10px"> Hooper </span>''']][[User talk:Hooper|<span style="background-color:Black; color:white; -moz-border-radius-bottomleft:10px; -moz-border-radius-topleft:10px">&nbsp;&nbsp;talk&nbsp;&nbsp;</span>]][[Special:Contributions/Hooper|<span style="background-color:black; color:white">&nbsp;&nbsp;contribs&nbsp;&nbsp;</span>]][[Special:Emailuser/Hooper|<span style="background-color:black; color:white; -moz-border-radius-bottomright:10px; -moz-border-radius-topright:10px">&nbsp;&nbsp;email&nbsp;&nbsp;</span>]]</span></small> 12:46, 14 October 2009 (MDT)<br />
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:Yeah, now there are 2,299,388 views (Jan. 13,2010)! Wohoo! --[[User:Io|Io]] 16:52, 13 January 2010<br />
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And now, in the november of 2011, we have 3,080,184 views!<br />
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== Size ==<br />
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how many Megabytes is this whole site? {{Unsigned|216.12.83.73|22:29, 15 November 2009 (MDT)}}<br />
<br />
:Why? --[[User:Green Dragon|Green Dragon]] 23:40, 15 November 2009 (MST)<br />
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::I was thinking of copying the source code so i cant look at it offline--[[User:Lo-Chi|Lt.Dan]] 07:20, 16 November 2009 (MST)<br />
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:::You don't need the size of D&D Wiki as a whole when looking at the source code ("''View Page Source''" for Mozilla Firefox). --[[User:Green Dragon|Green Dragon]] 12:12, 16 November 2009 (MST)<br />
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== The Tavern ==<br />
<br />
After a huge hiatus I'm finally back to D&D Wiki (and happy to return!) following a long period of being almost broke. I notice that the Tavern, which was gone when I first had to go...still isn't back. That was one of my favorite parts of the Wiki, and I hope I'm just being stupid and missing it somewhere. Is it gone for good? --[[User:Harry Mason|Harry Mason]] 07:07, 4 February 2010 (UTC)<br />
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:It actually was discontinued. There is no "official" reason as to now however take a look at [[Discussion:The Tavern: use, expansion, and availability.]]. The main reason is "''...it is quite childish and immature at times and I feel at times it decreases the seriousness of D&D Wiki with childish behavior and immaturity.''" [[User:Green Dragon|Green Dragon]] "Discussion:The Tavern: use, expansion, and availability." 21:02, 20 November 2009 (MST). --[[User:Green Dragon|Green Dragon]] 22:07, 4 February 2010 (UTC)<br />
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::Ah...oh well. That's a little sad to me, but I can see the reasoning behind it, it -was- rather vulgar at times. Thank you for replying. :) --[[User:Harry Mason|Harry Mason]] 01:49, 5 February 2010 (UTC)<br />
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:::I'm coming back too and I too liked the tavern... I agree with the reasoning, but I still think we should have an effective way of conversation, since a wiki is not the best tool for talking...<br>Isn't there something that could be implemented in the place of the tavern (and maybe have some rules as to swearing and misbehaviour, making disrespectful users suspended/banned from using it)?--[[User:ElfsMaster|ElfsMaster]] 10:49, 5 February 2010 (UTC)<br />
<br />
::::But this '''is''' a wiki, and by not having the sidetrack of a chat users may tend to rely more on the already established discussion tool. Or they can leave messages on talk pages of other users. It actually encourages the opening of discussions and talks between users on the wiki - which can lead to more wiki additions and improvements, instead of just idle chatter. &nbsp;<small><span style="border: 1px solid black; -moz-border-radius:10px">[[User:Hooper|'''<span style="background-color:White; color:Black; -moz-border-radius-topleft:10px; -moz-border-radius-bottomleft:10px"> Hooper </span>''']][[User talk:Hooper|<span style="background-color:Black; color:white; -moz-border-radius-bottomleft:10px; -moz-border-radius-topleft:10px">&nbsp;&nbsp;talk&nbsp;&nbsp;</span>]][[Special:Contributions/Hooper|<span style="background-color:black; color:white">&nbsp;&nbsp;contribs&nbsp;&nbsp;</span>]][[Special:Emailuser/Hooper|<span style="background-color:black; color:white; -moz-border-radius-bottomright:10px; -moz-border-radius-topright:10px">&nbsp;&nbsp;email&nbsp;&nbsp;</span>]]</span></small> 14:07, 5 February 2010 (UTC)<br />
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:::::Appealing to people in real time is more effective than doing so passively, from what I've found. Also, just because serious discussion does not happen constantly doesn't mean it never does. I understand that a decision has been made however, so that's all I'll say on the matter. -- [[User:Jota|Jota]] 14:20, 5 February 2010 (UTC)<br />
<br />
::::::Why not do something like what facebook has and when a user is logged in, they have a little chat bar? i know there are a lot of difficulties with that, including having "friends lists" and the like, but its an idea.<br />
<br />
== Search Incapacitation ==<br />
The search function has been completely nonfunctional for me for a good few days, maybe half a week or more now. Once in a while I'll nail to a T an article's name, and it'll transport me there. Just hitting Search or mistyping anything causes it to utterly fail for me. Is this just a localized problem (which I don't think it is, I've used 3 different computers to try and access it, all were on different networks) or what's going on? --[[User:Harry Mason|Harry Mason]] 05:08, 26 February 2010 (UTC)<br />
<br />
:Is it actually giving you an error, or just pulling up the extended/advanced search function ''(which is normal when you don't type an article name perfectly)''?. &nbsp;<small><span style="border: 1px solid black; -moz-border-radius:10px">[[User:Hooper|'''<span style="background-color:White; color:Black; -moz-border-radius-topleft:10px; -moz-border-radius-bottomleft:10px"> Hooper </span>''']][[User talk:Hooper|<span style="background-color:Black; color:white; -moz-border-radius-bottomleft:10px; -moz-border-radius-topleft:10px">&nbsp;&nbsp;talk&nbsp;&nbsp;</span>]][[Special:Contributions/Hooper|<span style="background-color:black; color:white">&nbsp;&nbsp;contribs&nbsp;&nbsp;</span>]][[Special:Emailuser/Hooper|<span style="background-color:black; color:white; -moz-border-radius-bottomright:10px; -moz-border-radius-topright:10px">&nbsp;&nbsp;email&nbsp;&nbsp;</span>]]</span></small> 13:28, 26 February 2010 (UTC)<br />
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::I'm having the same issues, the message "Query failed: connection to localhost:3312 failed (errno=111, msg=Connection refused)" appears when I try to search for something.<br />
::I'm having a similar problem, mainly in that I can't browse things, I can only see things when I search for them, which, makes looking at the diffrent races, quite difficult [[User:Sevant|Sevant]] 18:23, 5 July 2010 (UTC)<br />
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:::Search is working once again. --[[User:Green Dragon|Green Dragon]] 12:14, 22 August 2010 (MDT)<br />
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== Official Content Designation ==<br />
<br />
Could a homebrew template be added? I keep coming here after a Google search and I keep finding overpowered homebrew things (like [[Paragon_of_Light/Darkness_%283.5e_Prestige_Class%29]]) and it usually takes me a moment to figure out that it's not official, just something some random person made up. I'd prefer to see some sort of note to that effect at the top of the page. [[User:Banaticus|Banaticus]] 02:57, 21 May 2010 (UTC)<br />
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:Ummm... A template is already added on all official pages. This is a homebrew site, so all articles are automatically assumed to be homebrew unless they are specified otherwise.--[[User:Vrail|Vrail]] 03:10, 21 May 2010 (UTC)<br />
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::There already is a homebrew template. Look down at the bottom of that page you linked... see where it says "{{DnD Classes Breadcrumb}} &rarr; [[DnD Prestige Classes|Prestige Classes]]"? "Homebrew" is even in the wording of the template. If you are looking for ONLY SRD material then look for pages starting with "SRD:". They will all have OGL templates as well.<br />
::Additionally, much of our homebrew content has ratings by other users, so you should know right away if it's overpowered. [[User:Jazzman831|Jazz]][[User talk:Jazzman831|Man]] 14:39, 21 May 2010 (UTC)<br />
<br />
== Pictures Down? ==<br />
<br />
While it might be my computer, it appears that something happened to the pictures on the site. They don't seem to be displaying. Am I wrong? Was there an announcement that I missed? [[User:Noname|Aristocles]] 05:20, 4 June 2010 (UTC)<br />
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:This question was already brought up on GD's talk page under [[User talk:Green Dragon#Images lost again|this header]]. However no clear answer was given by GD. All I know is that no, it is not your computer, and no there was no announcement. The pictures still exist on the media repository, however they are not linking properly. --[[User:Vrail|Vrail]] 13:05, 4 June 2010 (UTC)<br />
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::Images have been fixed. --[[User:Green Dragon|Green Dragon]] 12:12, 22 August 2010 (MDT)<br />
Are you sure? I dont see any- ANYWHERE!!!<br />
[[User:DragonFist|DragonFist]] 20:13, 17 December 2010 (MST)<br />
<br />
== Marking a page as homebrew ==<br />
<br />
How do we mark a page as homebrew? Take [Alon (3.5e Deity)] for instance. It turns out he's a homebrew god, although I don't see that anywhere on the page. It's sometimes difficult to tell the difference on this wiki between homebrew things and official things. [[Special:Contributions/97.93.94.242|97.93.94.242]] 12:42, 24 August 2010 (MDT)<br />
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:Any properly-created page should have a clear breadcrumb at the bottom of the page which leads back to a homebrew page. In addition any user-created content belongs in [[:Category:User]]. [[User:Jazzman831|Jazz]][[User talk:Jazzman831|Man]] 13:22, 27 August 2010 (MDT)<br />
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::You can also just click "3.5e Open Game Content" on the sidebar to take you to the "official" material. Almost everything on this site is homebrew. Because of that, what we do is mark pages that are official. If you don't see a template that says "Open Game Content", then the page you are viewing is essentially guaranteed to be homebrew content. --[[User:Badger|Badger]] 14:24, 27 August 2010 (MDT)<br />
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== 3 Million View ==<br />
Just a quick pat on the back, as per Statistics the main page has hit 3 million views. Too bad our news is months behind. &nbsp;<small><span style="border: 1px solid black; -moz-border-radius:10px">[[User:Hooper|'''<span style="background-color:White; color:Black; -moz-border-radius-topleft:10px; -moz-border-radius-bottomleft:10px"> Hooper </span>''']][[User talk:Hooper|<span style="background-color:Black; color:white; -moz-border-radius-bottomleft:10px; -moz-border-radius-topleft:10px">&nbsp;&nbsp;talk&nbsp;&nbsp;</span>]][[Special:Contributions/Hooper|<span style="background-color:black; color:white">&nbsp;&nbsp;contribs&nbsp;&nbsp;</span>]][[Special:Emailuser/Hooper|<span style="background-color:black; color:white; -moz-border-radius-bottomright:10px; -moz-border-radius-topright:10px">&nbsp;&nbsp;email&nbsp;&nbsp;</span>]]</span></small> 22:46, 3 January 2011 (MST)<br />
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== Advice on Creating Animal ==<br />
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Ok so i have no clue how to do this but i want to make an Exploding Chicken animal for D20M and all i know is that its a regular chicken that explodes when within 15ft of any nonchaotic for 1d6 damage at a range of 20ft. they have a total health of 3. they also are weak and are just mobile... firecracker i guess would be the best way of puting it. my DM said to just put it on here cause he wants to see what others think. thanks! *EDIT* i ment D20M Apocolypse</div>Ozzy1234567890https://www.dandwiki.com/w/index.php?title=Talk:Main_Page&diff=503732Talk:Main Page2011-01-21T17:54:34Z<p>Ozzy1234567890: /* The Tavern */</p>
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== Anti Wiki Criticism ==<br />
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This is the most useful Wiki I have ever found on D&D, (and I've seen a LOT of on-line references). I am currently running an adventure and I keep this site open on my lap-top as I play. It saves me a great deal of time and speeds up play considerably. I almost never even open my Monster Manual anymore.<br />
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Kudos to the WebMaster. --[[User:Gildavinor|Gildavinor]] 18:13, 25 September 2009 (MDT)<br />
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:I agree very strongly with you, Gild! Though I didn't sign in very often previously, I absolutely adore this Wiki. It's the pinnacle of Dungeons and Dragons research and innovation. --[[User:Harry Mason|Harry Mason]] 18:42, 25 September 2009 (MDT)<br />
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::Taking sides in any instance is a bad idea... Neutrality is a great observational instrument if one is not affiliated therein. --[[User:Green Dragon|Green Dragon]] 21:51, 25 September 2009 (MDT)<br />
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:::Totally agree. --[[User:Lord Mattos|Lord Mattos]] 11:14, 29 November 2009 (MST)<br />
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== Two Millionth View! ==<br />
<br />
Looks like today was [[Special:Statistics|the day]] folks! 2 million views on the main page! &nbsp;<small><span style="border: 1px solid black; -moz-border-radius:10px">[[User:Hooper|'''<span style="background-color:White; color:Black; -moz-border-radius-topleft:10px; -moz-border-radius-bottomleft:10px"> Hooper </span>''']][[User talk:Hooper|<span style="background-color:Black; color:white; -moz-border-radius-bottomleft:10px; -moz-border-radius-topleft:10px">&nbsp;&nbsp;talk&nbsp;&nbsp;</span>]][[Special:Contributions/Hooper|<span style="background-color:black; color:white">&nbsp;&nbsp;contribs&nbsp;&nbsp;</span>]][[Special:Emailuser/Hooper|<span style="background-color:black; color:white; -moz-border-radius-bottomright:10px; -moz-border-radius-topright:10px">&nbsp;&nbsp;email&nbsp;&nbsp;</span>]]</span></small> 12:46, 14 October 2009 (MDT)<br />
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:Yeah, now there are 2,299,388 views (Jan. 13,2010)! Wohoo! --[[User:Io|Io]] 16:52, 13 January 2010<br />
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And now, in the november of 2011, we have 3,080,184 views!<br />
<br />
== Size ==<br />
<br />
how many Megabytes is this whole site? {{Unsigned|216.12.83.73|22:29, 15 November 2009 (MDT)}}<br />
<br />
:Why? --[[User:Green Dragon|Green Dragon]] 23:40, 15 November 2009 (MST)<br />
<br />
::I was thinking of copying the source code so i cant look at it offline--[[User:Lo-Chi|Lt.Dan]] 07:20, 16 November 2009 (MST)<br />
<br />
:::You don't need the size of D&D Wiki as a whole when looking at the source code ("''View Page Source''" for Mozilla Firefox). --[[User:Green Dragon|Green Dragon]] 12:12, 16 November 2009 (MST)<br />
<br />
== The Tavern ==<br />
<br />
After a huge hiatus I'm finally back to D&D Wiki (and happy to return!) following a long period of being almost broke. I notice that the Tavern, which was gone when I first had to go...still isn't back. That was one of my favorite parts of the Wiki, and I hope I'm just being stupid and missing it somewhere. Is it gone for good? --[[User:Harry Mason|Harry Mason]] 07:07, 4 February 2010 (UTC)<br />
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:It actually was discontinued. There is no "official" reason as to now however take a look at [[Discussion:The Tavern: use, expansion, and availability.]]. The main reason is "''...it is quite childish and immature at times and I feel at times it decreases the seriousness of D&D Wiki with childish behavior and immaturity.''" [[User:Green Dragon|Green Dragon]] "Discussion:The Tavern: use, expansion, and availability." 21:02, 20 November 2009 (MST). --[[User:Green Dragon|Green Dragon]] 22:07, 4 February 2010 (UTC)<br />
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::Ah...oh well. That's a little sad to me, but I can see the reasoning behind it, it -was- rather vulgar at times. Thank you for replying. :) --[[User:Harry Mason|Harry Mason]] 01:49, 5 February 2010 (UTC)<br />
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:::I'm coming back too and I too liked the tavern... I agree with the reasoning, but I still think we should have an effective way of conversation, since a wiki is not the best tool for talking...<br>Isn't there something that could be implemented in the place of the tavern (and maybe have some rules as to swearing and misbehaviour, making disrespectful users suspended/banned from using it)?--[[User:ElfsMaster|ElfsMaster]] 10:49, 5 February 2010 (UTC)<br />
<br />
::::But this '''is''' a wiki, and by not having the sidetrack of a chat users may tend to rely more on the already established discussion tool. Or they can leave messages on talk pages of other users. It actually encourages the opening of discussions and talks between users on the wiki - which can lead to more wiki additions and improvements, instead of just idle chatter. &nbsp;<small><span style="border: 1px solid black; -moz-border-radius:10px">[[User:Hooper|'''<span style="background-color:White; color:Black; -moz-border-radius-topleft:10px; -moz-border-radius-bottomleft:10px"> Hooper </span>''']][[User talk:Hooper|<span style="background-color:Black; color:white; -moz-border-radius-bottomleft:10px; -moz-border-radius-topleft:10px">&nbsp;&nbsp;talk&nbsp;&nbsp;</span>]][[Special:Contributions/Hooper|<span style="background-color:black; color:white">&nbsp;&nbsp;contribs&nbsp;&nbsp;</span>]][[Special:Emailuser/Hooper|<span style="background-color:black; color:white; -moz-border-radius-bottomright:10px; -moz-border-radius-topright:10px">&nbsp;&nbsp;email&nbsp;&nbsp;</span>]]</span></small> 14:07, 5 February 2010 (UTC)<br />
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:::::Appealing to people in real time is more effective than doing so passively, from what I've found. Also, just because serious discussion does not happen constantly doesn't mean it never does. I understand that a decision has been made however, so that's all I'll say on the matter. -- [[User:Jota|Jota]] 14:20, 5 February 2010 (UTC)<br />
<br />
::::::Why not do something like what facebook has and when a user is logged in, they have a little chat bar? i know there are a lot of difficulties with that, in cluding having "friends lists" and the like, but its an idea.<br />
<br />
== Search Incapacitation ==<br />
The search function has been completely nonfunctional for me for a good few days, maybe half a week or more now. Once in a while I'll nail to a T an article's name, and it'll transport me there. Just hitting Search or mistyping anything causes it to utterly fail for me. Is this just a localized problem (which I don't think it is, I've used 3 different computers to try and access it, all were on different networks) or what's going on? --[[User:Harry Mason|Harry Mason]] 05:08, 26 February 2010 (UTC)<br />
<br />
:Is it actually giving you an error, or just pulling up the extended/advanced search function ''(which is normal when you don't type an article name perfectly)''?. &nbsp;<small><span style="border: 1px solid black; -moz-border-radius:10px">[[User:Hooper|'''<span style="background-color:White; color:Black; -moz-border-radius-topleft:10px; -moz-border-radius-bottomleft:10px"> Hooper </span>''']][[User talk:Hooper|<span style="background-color:Black; color:white; -moz-border-radius-bottomleft:10px; -moz-border-radius-topleft:10px">&nbsp;&nbsp;talk&nbsp;&nbsp;</span>]][[Special:Contributions/Hooper|<span style="background-color:black; color:white">&nbsp;&nbsp;contribs&nbsp;&nbsp;</span>]][[Special:Emailuser/Hooper|<span style="background-color:black; color:white; -moz-border-radius-bottomright:10px; -moz-border-radius-topright:10px">&nbsp;&nbsp;email&nbsp;&nbsp;</span>]]</span></small> 13:28, 26 February 2010 (UTC)<br />
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::I'm having the same issues, the message "Query failed: connection to localhost:3312 failed (errno=111, msg=Connection refused)" appears when I try to search for something.<br />
::I'm having a similar problem, mainly in that I can't browse things, I can only see things when I search for them, which, makes looking at the diffrent races, quite difficult [[User:Sevant|Sevant]] 18:23, 5 July 2010 (UTC)<br />
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:::Search is working once again. --[[User:Green Dragon|Green Dragon]] 12:14, 22 August 2010 (MDT)<br />
<br />
== Official Content Designation ==<br />
<br />
Could a homebrew template be added? I keep coming here after a Google search and I keep finding overpowered homebrew things (like [[Paragon_of_Light/Darkness_%283.5e_Prestige_Class%29]]) and it usually takes me a moment to figure out that it's not official, just something some random person made up. I'd prefer to see some sort of note to that effect at the top of the page. [[User:Banaticus|Banaticus]] 02:57, 21 May 2010 (UTC)<br />
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:Ummm... A template is already added on all official pages. This is a homebrew site, so all articles are automatically assumed to be homebrew unless they are specified otherwise.--[[User:Vrail|Vrail]] 03:10, 21 May 2010 (UTC)<br />
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::There already is a homebrew template. Look down at the bottom of that page you linked... see where it says "{{DnD Classes Breadcrumb}} &rarr; [[DnD Prestige Classes|Prestige Classes]]"? "Homebrew" is even in the wording of the template. If you are looking for ONLY SRD material then look for pages starting with "SRD:". They will all have OGL templates as well.<br />
::Additionally, much of our homebrew content has ratings by other users, so you should know right away if it's overpowered. [[User:Jazzman831|Jazz]][[User talk:Jazzman831|Man]] 14:39, 21 May 2010 (UTC)<br />
<br />
== Pictures Down? ==<br />
<br />
While it might be my computer, it appears that something happened to the pictures on the site. They don't seem to be displaying. Am I wrong? Was there an announcement that I missed? [[User:Noname|Aristocles]] 05:20, 4 June 2010 (UTC)<br />
<br />
:This question was already brought up on GD's talk page under [[User talk:Green Dragon#Images lost again|this header]]. However no clear answer was given by GD. All I know is that no, it is not your computer, and no there was no announcement. The pictures still exist on the media repository, however they are not linking properly. --[[User:Vrail|Vrail]] 13:05, 4 June 2010 (UTC)<br />
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::Images have been fixed. --[[User:Green Dragon|Green Dragon]] 12:12, 22 August 2010 (MDT)<br />
Are you sure? I dont see any- ANYWHERE!!!<br />
[[User:DragonFist|DragonFist]] 20:13, 17 December 2010 (MST)<br />
<br />
== Marking a page as homebrew ==<br />
<br />
How do we mark a page as homebrew? Take [Alon (3.5e Deity)] for instance. It turns out he's a homebrew god, although I don't see that anywhere on the page. It's sometimes difficult to tell the difference on this wiki between homebrew things and official things. [[Special:Contributions/97.93.94.242|97.93.94.242]] 12:42, 24 August 2010 (MDT)<br />
<br />
:Any properly-created page should have a clear breadcrumb at the bottom of the page which leads back to a homebrew page. In addition any user-created content belongs in [[:Category:User]]. [[User:Jazzman831|Jazz]][[User talk:Jazzman831|Man]] 13:22, 27 August 2010 (MDT)<br />
<br />
::You can also just click "3.5e Open Game Content" on the sidebar to take you to the "official" material. Almost everything on this site is homebrew. Because of that, what we do is mark pages that are official. If you don't see a template that says "Open Game Content", then the page you are viewing is essentially guaranteed to be homebrew content. --[[User:Badger|Badger]] 14:24, 27 August 2010 (MDT)<br />
<br />
== 3 Million View ==<br />
Just a quick pat on the back, as per Statistics the main page has hit 3 million views. Too bad our news is months behind. &nbsp;<small><span style="border: 1px solid black; -moz-border-radius:10px">[[User:Hooper|'''<span style="background-color:White; color:Black; -moz-border-radius-topleft:10px; -moz-border-radius-bottomleft:10px"> Hooper </span>''']][[User talk:Hooper|<span style="background-color:Black; color:white; -moz-border-radius-bottomleft:10px; -moz-border-radius-topleft:10px">&nbsp;&nbsp;talk&nbsp;&nbsp;</span>]][[Special:Contributions/Hooper|<span style="background-color:black; color:white">&nbsp;&nbsp;contribs&nbsp;&nbsp;</span>]][[Special:Emailuser/Hooper|<span style="background-color:black; color:white; -moz-border-radius-bottomright:10px; -moz-border-radius-topright:10px">&nbsp;&nbsp;email&nbsp;&nbsp;</span>]]</span></small> 22:46, 3 January 2011 (MST)<br />
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== Advice on Creating Animal ==<br />
<br />
Ok so i have no clue how to do this but i want to make an Exploding Chicken animal for D20M and all i know is that its a regular chicken that explodes when within 15ft of any nonchaotic for 1d6 damage at a range of 20ft. they have a total health of 3. they also are weak and are just mobile... firecracker i guess would be the best way of puting it. my DM said to just put it on here cause he wants to see what others think. thanks! *EDIT* i ment D20M Apocolypse</div>Ozzy1234567890https://www.dandwiki.com/w/index.php?title=Dire_Chicken_(4e_Creature)&diff=503726Dire Chicken (4e Creature)2011-01-21T16:57:06Z<p>Ozzy1234567890: </p>
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<div>=== Dire Chicken ===<br />
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These completly bald chickens can stand 3'00''-4'00''. Many have wierd spike-like protrutions from their spinal cord.<br />
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{{4e Creature Top<br />
|name=Dire Chicken<br />
|level=1<br />
|role=Lurker<br />
|size=Small<br />
|origin=Natural<br />
|type=Animal<br />
|keywords=<br />
|xp=50<br />
|initiative=+1<br />
|senses2=<br />
|senses=<br />
|aura1=<br />
|aurakeyword1=<br />
|aurarange1=<br />
|auraeffect1=<br />
|aura2=<br />
|aurakeyword2=<br />
|aurarange2=<br />
|auraeffect2=<br />
|special=<br />
|effect=<br />
|hp=20<br />
|bloodied=10<br />
|hitpoints=<br />
|healingsurges=8<br />
|regeneration=<br />
|ac=10<br />
|fortitude=11<br />
|reflex=12<br />
|will=13<br />
|defenses=<br />
|immune/resist/vulnerable=<br />
|savingthrows=<br />
|speed=5,2 Fly(Clumsy)<br />
|actionpoints=<br />
}}<br />
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{{4e Creature Power<br />
|type={{BM}}<br />
|name=Peck<br />
|action=Standard; At-will<br />
|recharge=<br />
|keywords=Natural<br />
|effect=+4 vs AC:Hit 1d6+1 Damage Miss:Half damage.<br />
}}<br />
{{4e Creature Bottom<br />
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|feats=-<br />
|rituals=<br />
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|strbonus=+1<br />
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=== Dire Chicken Tactics ===<br />
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Dire Chickens are mainly hidden around corners and jump out to peck unsespecting PCs.<br />
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=== Dire Chicken Lore ===<br />
<br />
A character knows the following information with a successful Nature check.<br />
<br />
'''DC 10:''' These chickens have been genetically mutated. They harm plants and animals by pecking.<br />
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=== Encounter Groups ===<br />
<br />
Dire Chickens usually are in groups of 5-7 chickens.<br />
<br />
'''Level 1 Encounter (XP 100)'''<br />
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* 2 Dire Chickens Level 1 Lurker<br />
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[[Category:Lurker]]</div>Ozzy1234567890https://www.dandwiki.com/w/index.php?title=Dire_Chicken_(4e_Creature)&diff=503725Dire Chicken (4e Creature)2011-01-21T16:55:14Z<p>Ozzy1234567890: /* Dire Chicke Lore */</p>
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<div>=== Dire Chicken ===<br />
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These completly bald chickens can stand 3'00''-4'00''. Many have wierd spike-like protrutions from their spinal cord.<br />
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{{4e Creature Top<br />
|name=Dire Chicken<br />
|level=1<br />
|role=Lurker<br />
|size=Small<br />
|origin=Natural<br />
|type=Animal<br />
|keywords=<br />
|xp=50<br />
|initiative=+1<br />
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|ac=10<br />
|fortitude=11<br />
|reflex=12<br />
|will=13<br />
|defenses=<br />
|immune/resist/vulnerable=<br />
|savingthrows=<br />
|speed=5,2 Fly(Clumsy)<br />
|actionpoints=<br />
}}<br />
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{{4e Creature Power<br />
|type={{BM}}<br />
|name=Peck<br />
|action=Standard; At-will<br />
|recharge=<br />
|keywords=Natural<br />
|effect=+4 vs AC:Hit 1d6+1 Damage Miss:Half damage.<br />
}}<br />
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|languages=-<br />
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|feats=-<br />
|rituals=<br />
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|strength=10<br />
|strbonus=+1<br />
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|wisdom=2<br />
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|intbonus=-<br />
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=== Dire Chicken Tactics ===<br />
<br />
Dire Chickens are mainly hidden around corners and jump out to peck unsespecting PCs.<br />
<br />
=== Dire Chicken Lore ===<br />
<br />
A character knows the following information with a successful Nature check.<br />
<br />
'''DC 10:''' These chickens have been genetically mutated. They harm plants and animals by pecking.<br />
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=== Encounter Groups ===<br />
<br />
Dire Chikens usually are in groups of 5-7 chickens.<br />
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'''Level 1 Encounter (XP 100)'''<br />
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* 2 Dire Chickens Level 1 Lurker<br />
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[[Category:Lurker]]</div>Ozzy1234567890https://www.dandwiki.com/w/index.php?title=Dire_Chicken_(4e_Creature)&diff=503724Dire Chicken (4e Creature)2011-01-21T16:54:03Z<p>Ozzy1234567890: /* Dire Chiken Tactics */</p>
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<div>=== Dire Chicken ===<br />
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These completly bald chickens can stand 3'00''-4'00''. Many have wierd spike-like protrutions from their spinal cord.<br />
<br />
{{4e Creature Top<br />
|name=Dire Chicken<br />
|level=1<br />
|role=Lurker<br />
|size=Small<br />
|origin=Natural<br />
|type=Animal<br />
|keywords=<br />
|xp=50<br />
|initiative=+1<br />
|senses2=<br />
|senses=<br />
|aura1=<br />
|aurakeyword1=<br />
|aurarange1=<br />
|auraeffect1=<br />
|aura2=<br />
|aurakeyword2=<br />
|aurarange2=<br />
|auraeffect2=<br />
|special=<br />
|effect=<br />
|hp=20<br />
|bloodied=10<br />
|hitpoints=<br />
|healingsurges=8<br />
|regeneration=<br />
|ac=10<br />
|fortitude=11<br />
|reflex=12<br />
|will=13<br />
|defenses=<br />
|immune/resist/vulnerable=<br />
|savingthrows=<br />
|speed=5,2 Fly(Clumsy)<br />
|actionpoints=<br />
}}<br />
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{{4e Creature Power<br />
|type={{BM}}<br />
|name=Peck<br />
|action=Standard; At-will<br />
|recharge=<br />
|keywords=Natural<br />
|effect=+4 vs AC:Hit 1d6+1 Damage Miss:Half damage.<br />
}}<br />
{{4e Creature Bottom<br />
|alignment=Unaligned<br />
|languages=-<br />
|skills=-<br />
|feats=-<br />
|rituals=<br />
|spellbook=<br />
|strength=10<br />
|strbonus=+1<br />
|dexterity=6<br />
|dexbonus=-4<br />
|wisdom=2<br />
|wisbonus=-10<br />
|constitution=-<br />
|conbonus=-<br />
|intelligence=-<br />
|intbonus=-<br />
|charisma=-<br />
|chabonus=-<br />
|equipment=-<br />
}}<br />
{{ImageNeeded}}<br />
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=== Dire Chicken Tactics ===<br />
<br />
Dire Chickens are mainly hidden around corners and jump out to peck unsespecting PCs.<br />
<br />
=== Dire Chicke Lore ===<br />
<br />
A character knows the following information with a successful Nature check.<br />
<br />
'''DC 10:''' These chickens have been genetically mutated. They harm plants and animals by pecking.<br />
<br />
=== Encounter Groups ===<br />
<br />
Dire Chikens usually are in groups of 5-7 chickens.<br />
<br />
'''Level 1 Encounter (XP 100)'''<br />
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* 2 Dire Chickens Level 1 Lurker<br />
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[[Category:Lurker]]</div>Ozzy1234567890https://www.dandwiki.com/w/index.php?title=Talk:Main_Page&diff=503723Talk:Main Page2011-01-21T16:45:53Z<p>Ozzy1234567890: /* Advice on Creating Animal */</p>
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== Anti Wiki Criticism ==<br />
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This is the most useful Wiki I have ever found on D&D, (and I've seen a LOT of on-line references). I am currently running an adventure and I keep this site open on my lap-top as I play. It saves me a great deal of time and speeds up play considerably. I almost never even open my Monster Manual anymore.<br />
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Kudos to the WebMaster. --[[User:Gildavinor|Gildavinor]] 18:13, 25 September 2009 (MDT)<br />
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:I agree very strongly with you, Gild! Though I didn't sign in very often previously, I absolutely adore this Wiki. It's the pinnacle of Dungeons and Dragons research and innovation. --[[User:Harry Mason|Harry Mason]] 18:42, 25 September 2009 (MDT)<br />
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::Taking sides in any instance is a bad idea... Neutrality is a great observational instrument if one is not affiliated therein. --[[User:Green Dragon|Green Dragon]] 21:51, 25 September 2009 (MDT)<br />
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:::Totally agree. --[[User:Lord Mattos|Lord Mattos]] 11:14, 29 November 2009 (MST)<br />
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== Two Millionth View! ==<br />
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Looks like today was [[Special:Statistics|the day]] folks! 2 million views on the main page! &nbsp;<small><span style="border: 1px solid black; -moz-border-radius:10px">[[User:Hooper|'''<span style="background-color:White; color:Black; -moz-border-radius-topleft:10px; -moz-border-radius-bottomleft:10px"> Hooper </span>''']][[User talk:Hooper|<span style="background-color:Black; color:white; -moz-border-radius-bottomleft:10px; -moz-border-radius-topleft:10px">&nbsp;&nbsp;talk&nbsp;&nbsp;</span>]][[Special:Contributions/Hooper|<span style="background-color:black; color:white">&nbsp;&nbsp;contribs&nbsp;&nbsp;</span>]][[Special:Emailuser/Hooper|<span style="background-color:black; color:white; -moz-border-radius-bottomright:10px; -moz-border-radius-topright:10px">&nbsp;&nbsp;email&nbsp;&nbsp;</span>]]</span></small> 12:46, 14 October 2009 (MDT)<br />
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:Yeah, now there are 2,299,388 views (Jan. 13,2010)! Wohoo! --[[User:Io|Io]] 16:52, 13 January 2010<br />
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And now, in the november of 2011, we have 3,080,184 views!<br />
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== Size ==<br />
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how many Megabytes is this whole site? {{Unsigned|216.12.83.73|22:29, 15 November 2009 (MDT)}}<br />
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:Why? --[[User:Green Dragon|Green Dragon]] 23:40, 15 November 2009 (MST)<br />
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::I was thinking of copying the source code so i cant look at it offline--[[User:Lo-Chi|Lt.Dan]] 07:20, 16 November 2009 (MST)<br />
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:::You don't need the size of D&D Wiki as a whole when looking at the source code ("''View Page Source''" for Mozilla Firefox). --[[User:Green Dragon|Green Dragon]] 12:12, 16 November 2009 (MST)<br />
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== The Tavern ==<br />
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After a huge hiatus I'm finally back to D&D Wiki (and happy to return!) following a long period of being almost broke. I notice that the Tavern, which was gone when I first had to go...still isn't back. That was one of my favorite parts of the Wiki, and I hope I'm just being stupid and missing it somewhere. Is it gone for good? --[[User:Harry Mason|Harry Mason]] 07:07, 4 February 2010 (UTC)<br />
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:It actually was discontinued. There is no "official" reason as to now however take a look at [[Discussion:The Tavern: use, expansion, and availability.]]. The main reason is "''...it is quite childish and immature at times and I feel at times it decreases the seriousness of D&D Wiki with childish behavior and immaturity.''" [[User:Green Dragon|Green Dragon]] "Discussion:The Tavern: use, expansion, and availability." 21:02, 20 November 2009 (MST). --[[User:Green Dragon|Green Dragon]] 22:07, 4 February 2010 (UTC)<br />
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::Ah...oh well. That's a little sad to me, but I can see the reasoning behind it, it -was- rather vulgar at times. Thank you for replying. :) --[[User:Harry Mason|Harry Mason]] 01:49, 5 February 2010 (UTC)<br />
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:::I'm coming back too and I too liked the tavern... I agree with the reasoning, but I still think we should have an effective way of conversation, since a wiki is not the best tool for talking...<br>Isn't there something that could be implemented in the place of the tavern (and maybe have some rules as to swearing and misbehaviour, making disrespectful users suspended/banned from using it)?--[[User:ElfsMaster|ElfsMaster]] 10:49, 5 February 2010 (UTC)<br />
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::::But this '''is''' a wiki, and by not having the sidetrack of a chat users may tend to rely more on the already established discussion tool. Or they can leave messages on talk pages of other users. It actually encourages the opening of discussions and talks between users on the wiki - which can lead to more wiki additions and improvements, instead of just idle chatter. &nbsp;<small><span style="border: 1px solid black; -moz-border-radius:10px">[[User:Hooper|'''<span style="background-color:White; color:Black; -moz-border-radius-topleft:10px; -moz-border-radius-bottomleft:10px"> Hooper </span>''']][[User talk:Hooper|<span style="background-color:Black; color:white; -moz-border-radius-bottomleft:10px; -moz-border-radius-topleft:10px">&nbsp;&nbsp;talk&nbsp;&nbsp;</span>]][[Special:Contributions/Hooper|<span style="background-color:black; color:white">&nbsp;&nbsp;contribs&nbsp;&nbsp;</span>]][[Special:Emailuser/Hooper|<span style="background-color:black; color:white; -moz-border-radius-bottomright:10px; -moz-border-radius-topright:10px">&nbsp;&nbsp;email&nbsp;&nbsp;</span>]]</span></small> 14:07, 5 February 2010 (UTC)<br />
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:::::Appealing to people in real time is more effective than doing so passively, from what I've found. Also, just because serious discussion does not happen constantly doesn't mean it never does. I understand that a decision has been made however, so that's all I'll say on the matter. -- [[User:Jota|Jota]] 14:20, 5 February 2010 (UTC)<br />
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== Search Incapacitation ==<br />
The search function has been completely nonfunctional for me for a good few days, maybe half a week or more now. Once in a while I'll nail to a T an article's name, and it'll transport me there. Just hitting Search or mistyping anything causes it to utterly fail for me. Is this just a localized problem (which I don't think it is, I've used 3 different computers to try and access it, all were on different networks) or what's going on? --[[User:Harry Mason|Harry Mason]] 05:08, 26 February 2010 (UTC)<br />
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:Is it actually giving you an error, or just pulling up the extended/advanced search function ''(which is normal when you don't type an article name perfectly)''?. &nbsp;<small><span style="border: 1px solid black; -moz-border-radius:10px">[[User:Hooper|'''<span style="background-color:White; color:Black; -moz-border-radius-topleft:10px; -moz-border-radius-bottomleft:10px"> Hooper </span>''']][[User talk:Hooper|<span style="background-color:Black; color:white; -moz-border-radius-bottomleft:10px; -moz-border-radius-topleft:10px">&nbsp;&nbsp;talk&nbsp;&nbsp;</span>]][[Special:Contributions/Hooper|<span style="background-color:black; color:white">&nbsp;&nbsp;contribs&nbsp;&nbsp;</span>]][[Special:Emailuser/Hooper|<span style="background-color:black; color:white; -moz-border-radius-bottomright:10px; -moz-border-radius-topright:10px">&nbsp;&nbsp;email&nbsp;&nbsp;</span>]]</span></small> 13:28, 26 February 2010 (UTC)<br />
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::I'm having the same issues, the message "Query failed: connection to localhost:3312 failed (errno=111, msg=Connection refused)" appears when I try to search for something.<br />
::I'm having a similar problem, mainly in that I can't browse things, I can only see things when I search for them, which, makes looking at the diffrent races, quite difficult [[User:Sevant|Sevant]] 18:23, 5 July 2010 (UTC)<br />
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:::Search is working once again. --[[User:Green Dragon|Green Dragon]] 12:14, 22 August 2010 (MDT)<br />
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== Official Content Designation ==<br />
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Could a homebrew template be added? I keep coming here after a Google search and I keep finding overpowered homebrew things (like [[Paragon_of_Light/Darkness_%283.5e_Prestige_Class%29]]) and it usually takes me a moment to figure out that it's not official, just something some random person made up. I'd prefer to see some sort of note to that effect at the top of the page. [[User:Banaticus|Banaticus]] 02:57, 21 May 2010 (UTC)<br />
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:Ummm... A template is already added on all official pages. This is a homebrew site, so all articles are automatically assumed to be homebrew unless they are specified otherwise.--[[User:Vrail|Vrail]] 03:10, 21 May 2010 (UTC)<br />
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::There already is a homebrew template. Look down at the bottom of that page you linked... see where it says "{{DnD Classes Breadcrumb}} &rarr; [[DnD Prestige Classes|Prestige Classes]]"? "Homebrew" is even in the wording of the template. If you are looking for ONLY SRD material then look for pages starting with "SRD:". They will all have OGL templates as well.<br />
::Additionally, much of our homebrew content has ratings by other users, so you should know right away if it's overpowered. [[User:Jazzman831|Jazz]][[User talk:Jazzman831|Man]] 14:39, 21 May 2010 (UTC)<br />
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== Pictures Down? ==<br />
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While it might be my computer, it appears that something happened to the pictures on the site. They don't seem to be displaying. Am I wrong? Was there an announcement that I missed? [[User:Noname|Aristocles]] 05:20, 4 June 2010 (UTC)<br />
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:This question was already brought up on GD's talk page under [[User talk:Green Dragon#Images lost again|this header]]. However no clear answer was given by GD. All I know is that no, it is not your computer, and no there was no announcement. The pictures still exist on the media repository, however they are not linking properly. --[[User:Vrail|Vrail]] 13:05, 4 June 2010 (UTC)<br />
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::Images have been fixed. --[[User:Green Dragon|Green Dragon]] 12:12, 22 August 2010 (MDT)<br />
Are you sure? I dont see any- ANYWHERE!!!<br />
[[User:DragonFist|DragonFist]] 20:13, 17 December 2010 (MST)<br />
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== Marking a page as homebrew ==<br />
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How do we mark a page as homebrew? Take [Alon (3.5e Deity)] for instance. It turns out he's a homebrew god, although I don't see that anywhere on the page. It's sometimes difficult to tell the difference on this wiki between homebrew things and official things. [[Special:Contributions/97.93.94.242|97.93.94.242]] 12:42, 24 August 2010 (MDT)<br />
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:Any properly-created page should have a clear breadcrumb at the bottom of the page which leads back to a homebrew page. In addition any user-created content belongs in [[:Category:User]]. [[User:Jazzman831|Jazz]][[User talk:Jazzman831|Man]] 13:22, 27 August 2010 (MDT)<br />
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::You can also just click "3.5e Open Game Content" on the sidebar to take you to the "official" material. Almost everything on this site is homebrew. Because of that, what we do is mark pages that are official. If you don't see a template that says "Open Game Content", then the page you are viewing is essentially guaranteed to be homebrew content. --[[User:Badger|Badger]] 14:24, 27 August 2010 (MDT)<br />
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== 3 Million View ==<br />
Just a quick pat on the back, as per Statistics the main page has hit 3 million views. Too bad our news is months behind. &nbsp;<small><span style="border: 1px solid black; -moz-border-radius:10px">[[User:Hooper|'''<span style="background-color:White; color:Black; -moz-border-radius-topleft:10px; -moz-border-radius-bottomleft:10px"> Hooper </span>''']][[User talk:Hooper|<span style="background-color:Black; color:white; -moz-border-radius-bottomleft:10px; -moz-border-radius-topleft:10px">&nbsp;&nbsp;talk&nbsp;&nbsp;</span>]][[Special:Contributions/Hooper|<span style="background-color:black; color:white">&nbsp;&nbsp;contribs&nbsp;&nbsp;</span>]][[Special:Emailuser/Hooper|<span style="background-color:black; color:white; -moz-border-radius-bottomright:10px; -moz-border-radius-topright:10px">&nbsp;&nbsp;email&nbsp;&nbsp;</span>]]</span></small> 22:46, 3 January 2011 (MST)<br />
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== Advice on Creating Animal ==<br />
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Ok so i have no clue how to do this but i want to make an Exploding Chicken animal for D20M and all i know is that its a regular chicken that explodes when within 15ft of any nonchaotic for 1d6 damage at a range of 20ft. they have a total health of 3. they also are weak and are just mobile... firecracker i guess would be the best way of puting it. my DM said to just put it on here cause he wants to see what others think. thanks! *EDIT* i ment D20M Apocolypse</div>Ozzy1234567890https://www.dandwiki.com/w/index.php?title=Talk:Main_Page&diff=503722Talk:Main Page2011-01-21T16:42:35Z<p>Ozzy1234567890: /* Advice on Creating Animal */ new section</p>
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== Anti Wiki Criticism ==<br />
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This is the most useful Wiki I have ever found on D&D, (and I've seen a LOT of on-line references). I am currently running an adventure and I keep this site open on my lap-top as I play. It saves me a great deal of time and speeds up play considerably. I almost never even open my Monster Manual anymore.<br />
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Kudos to the WebMaster. --[[User:Gildavinor|Gildavinor]] 18:13, 25 September 2009 (MDT)<br />
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:I agree very strongly with you, Gild! Though I didn't sign in very often previously, I absolutely adore this Wiki. It's the pinnacle of Dungeons and Dragons research and innovation. --[[User:Harry Mason|Harry Mason]] 18:42, 25 September 2009 (MDT)<br />
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::Taking sides in any instance is a bad idea... Neutrality is a great observational instrument if one is not affiliated therein. --[[User:Green Dragon|Green Dragon]] 21:51, 25 September 2009 (MDT)<br />
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:::Totally agree. --[[User:Lord Mattos|Lord Mattos]] 11:14, 29 November 2009 (MST)<br />
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== Two Millionth View! ==<br />
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Looks like today was [[Special:Statistics|the day]] folks! 2 million views on the main page! &nbsp;<small><span style="border: 1px solid black; -moz-border-radius:10px">[[User:Hooper|'''<span style="background-color:White; color:Black; -moz-border-radius-topleft:10px; -moz-border-radius-bottomleft:10px"> Hooper </span>''']][[User talk:Hooper|<span style="background-color:Black; color:white; -moz-border-radius-bottomleft:10px; -moz-border-radius-topleft:10px">&nbsp;&nbsp;talk&nbsp;&nbsp;</span>]][[Special:Contributions/Hooper|<span style="background-color:black; color:white">&nbsp;&nbsp;contribs&nbsp;&nbsp;</span>]][[Special:Emailuser/Hooper|<span style="background-color:black; color:white; -moz-border-radius-bottomright:10px; -moz-border-radius-topright:10px">&nbsp;&nbsp;email&nbsp;&nbsp;</span>]]</span></small> 12:46, 14 October 2009 (MDT)<br />
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:Yeah, now there are 2,299,388 views (Jan. 13,2010)! Wohoo! --[[User:Io|Io]] 16:52, 13 January 2010<br />
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And now, in the november of 2011, we have 3,080,184 views!<br />
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== Size ==<br />
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how many Megabytes is this whole site? {{Unsigned|216.12.83.73|22:29, 15 November 2009 (MDT)}}<br />
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:Why? --[[User:Green Dragon|Green Dragon]] 23:40, 15 November 2009 (MST)<br />
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::I was thinking of copying the source code so i cant look at it offline--[[User:Lo-Chi|Lt.Dan]] 07:20, 16 November 2009 (MST)<br />
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:::You don't need the size of D&D Wiki as a whole when looking at the source code ("''View Page Source''" for Mozilla Firefox). --[[User:Green Dragon|Green Dragon]] 12:12, 16 November 2009 (MST)<br />
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== The Tavern ==<br />
<br />
After a huge hiatus I'm finally back to D&D Wiki (and happy to return!) following a long period of being almost broke. I notice that the Tavern, which was gone when I first had to go...still isn't back. That was one of my favorite parts of the Wiki, and I hope I'm just being stupid and missing it somewhere. Is it gone for good? --[[User:Harry Mason|Harry Mason]] 07:07, 4 February 2010 (UTC)<br />
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:It actually was discontinued. There is no "official" reason as to now however take a look at [[Discussion:The Tavern: use, expansion, and availability.]]. The main reason is "''...it is quite childish and immature at times and I feel at times it decreases the seriousness of D&D Wiki with childish behavior and immaturity.''" [[User:Green Dragon|Green Dragon]] "Discussion:The Tavern: use, expansion, and availability." 21:02, 20 November 2009 (MST). --[[User:Green Dragon|Green Dragon]] 22:07, 4 February 2010 (UTC)<br />
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::Ah...oh well. That's a little sad to me, but I can see the reasoning behind it, it -was- rather vulgar at times. Thank you for replying. :) --[[User:Harry Mason|Harry Mason]] 01:49, 5 February 2010 (UTC)<br />
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:::I'm coming back too and I too liked the tavern... I agree with the reasoning, but I still think we should have an effective way of conversation, since a wiki is not the best tool for talking...<br>Isn't there something that could be implemented in the place of the tavern (and maybe have some rules as to swearing and misbehaviour, making disrespectful users suspended/banned from using it)?--[[User:ElfsMaster|ElfsMaster]] 10:49, 5 February 2010 (UTC)<br />
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::::But this '''is''' a wiki, and by not having the sidetrack of a chat users may tend to rely more on the already established discussion tool. Or they can leave messages on talk pages of other users. It actually encourages the opening of discussions and talks between users on the wiki - which can lead to more wiki additions and improvements, instead of just idle chatter. &nbsp;<small><span style="border: 1px solid black; -moz-border-radius:10px">[[User:Hooper|'''<span style="background-color:White; color:Black; -moz-border-radius-topleft:10px; -moz-border-radius-bottomleft:10px"> Hooper </span>''']][[User talk:Hooper|<span style="background-color:Black; color:white; -moz-border-radius-bottomleft:10px; -moz-border-radius-topleft:10px">&nbsp;&nbsp;talk&nbsp;&nbsp;</span>]][[Special:Contributions/Hooper|<span style="background-color:black; color:white">&nbsp;&nbsp;contribs&nbsp;&nbsp;</span>]][[Special:Emailuser/Hooper|<span style="background-color:black; color:white; -moz-border-radius-bottomright:10px; -moz-border-radius-topright:10px">&nbsp;&nbsp;email&nbsp;&nbsp;</span>]]</span></small> 14:07, 5 February 2010 (UTC)<br />
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:::::Appealing to people in real time is more effective than doing so passively, from what I've found. Also, just because serious discussion does not happen constantly doesn't mean it never does. I understand that a decision has been made however, so that's all I'll say on the matter. -- [[User:Jota|Jota]] 14:20, 5 February 2010 (UTC)<br />
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== Search Incapacitation ==<br />
The search function has been completely nonfunctional for me for a good few days, maybe half a week or more now. Once in a while I'll nail to a T an article's name, and it'll transport me there. Just hitting Search or mistyping anything causes it to utterly fail for me. Is this just a localized problem (which I don't think it is, I've used 3 different computers to try and access it, all were on different networks) or what's going on? --[[User:Harry Mason|Harry Mason]] 05:08, 26 February 2010 (UTC)<br />
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:Is it actually giving you an error, or just pulling up the extended/advanced search function ''(which is normal when you don't type an article name perfectly)''?. &nbsp;<small><span style="border: 1px solid black; -moz-border-radius:10px">[[User:Hooper|'''<span style="background-color:White; color:Black; -moz-border-radius-topleft:10px; -moz-border-radius-bottomleft:10px"> Hooper </span>''']][[User talk:Hooper|<span style="background-color:Black; color:white; -moz-border-radius-bottomleft:10px; -moz-border-radius-topleft:10px">&nbsp;&nbsp;talk&nbsp;&nbsp;</span>]][[Special:Contributions/Hooper|<span style="background-color:black; color:white">&nbsp;&nbsp;contribs&nbsp;&nbsp;</span>]][[Special:Emailuser/Hooper|<span style="background-color:black; color:white; -moz-border-radius-bottomright:10px; -moz-border-radius-topright:10px">&nbsp;&nbsp;email&nbsp;&nbsp;</span>]]</span></small> 13:28, 26 February 2010 (UTC)<br />
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::I'm having the same issues, the message "Query failed: connection to localhost:3312 failed (errno=111, msg=Connection refused)" appears when I try to search for something.<br />
::I'm having a similar problem, mainly in that I can't browse things, I can only see things when I search for them, which, makes looking at the diffrent races, quite difficult [[User:Sevant|Sevant]] 18:23, 5 July 2010 (UTC)<br />
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:::Search is working once again. --[[User:Green Dragon|Green Dragon]] 12:14, 22 August 2010 (MDT)<br />
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== Official Content Designation ==<br />
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Could a homebrew template be added? I keep coming here after a Google search and I keep finding overpowered homebrew things (like [[Paragon_of_Light/Darkness_%283.5e_Prestige_Class%29]]) and it usually takes me a moment to figure out that it's not official, just something some random person made up. I'd prefer to see some sort of note to that effect at the top of the page. [[User:Banaticus|Banaticus]] 02:57, 21 May 2010 (UTC)<br />
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:Ummm... A template is already added on all official pages. This is a homebrew site, so all articles are automatically assumed to be homebrew unless they are specified otherwise.--[[User:Vrail|Vrail]] 03:10, 21 May 2010 (UTC)<br />
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::There already is a homebrew template. Look down at the bottom of that page you linked... see where it says "{{DnD Classes Breadcrumb}} &rarr; [[DnD Prestige Classes|Prestige Classes]]"? "Homebrew" is even in the wording of the template. If you are looking for ONLY SRD material then look for pages starting with "SRD:". They will all have OGL templates as well.<br />
::Additionally, much of our homebrew content has ratings by other users, so you should know right away if it's overpowered. [[User:Jazzman831|Jazz]][[User talk:Jazzman831|Man]] 14:39, 21 May 2010 (UTC)<br />
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== Pictures Down? ==<br />
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While it might be my computer, it appears that something happened to the pictures on the site. They don't seem to be displaying. Am I wrong? Was there an announcement that I missed? [[User:Noname|Aristocles]] 05:20, 4 June 2010 (UTC)<br />
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:This question was already brought up on GD's talk page under [[User talk:Green Dragon#Images lost again|this header]]. However no clear answer was given by GD. All I know is that no, it is not your computer, and no there was no announcement. The pictures still exist on the media repository, however they are not linking properly. --[[User:Vrail|Vrail]] 13:05, 4 June 2010 (UTC)<br />
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::Images have been fixed. --[[User:Green Dragon|Green Dragon]] 12:12, 22 August 2010 (MDT)<br />
Are you sure? I dont see any- ANYWHERE!!!<br />
[[User:DragonFist|DragonFist]] 20:13, 17 December 2010 (MST)<br />
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== Marking a page as homebrew ==<br />
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How do we mark a page as homebrew? Take [Alon (3.5e Deity)] for instance. It turns out he's a homebrew god, although I don't see that anywhere on the page. It's sometimes difficult to tell the difference on this wiki between homebrew things and official things. [[Special:Contributions/97.93.94.242|97.93.94.242]] 12:42, 24 August 2010 (MDT)<br />
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:Any properly-created page should have a clear breadcrumb at the bottom of the page which leads back to a homebrew page. In addition any user-created content belongs in [[:Category:User]]. [[User:Jazzman831|Jazz]][[User talk:Jazzman831|Man]] 13:22, 27 August 2010 (MDT)<br />
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::You can also just click "3.5e Open Game Content" on the sidebar to take you to the "official" material. Almost everything on this site is homebrew. Because of that, what we do is mark pages that are official. If you don't see a template that says "Open Game Content", then the page you are viewing is essentially guaranteed to be homebrew content. --[[User:Badger|Badger]] 14:24, 27 August 2010 (MDT)<br />
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== 3 Million View ==<br />
Just a quick pat on the back, as per Statistics the main page has hit 3 million views. Too bad our news is months behind. &nbsp;<small><span style="border: 1px solid black; -moz-border-radius:10px">[[User:Hooper|'''<span style="background-color:White; color:Black; -moz-border-radius-topleft:10px; -moz-border-radius-bottomleft:10px"> Hooper </span>''']][[User talk:Hooper|<span style="background-color:Black; color:white; -moz-border-radius-bottomleft:10px; -moz-border-radius-topleft:10px">&nbsp;&nbsp;talk&nbsp;&nbsp;</span>]][[Special:Contributions/Hooper|<span style="background-color:black; color:white">&nbsp;&nbsp;contribs&nbsp;&nbsp;</span>]][[Special:Emailuser/Hooper|<span style="background-color:black; color:white; -moz-border-radius-bottomright:10px; -moz-border-radius-topright:10px">&nbsp;&nbsp;email&nbsp;&nbsp;</span>]]</span></small> 22:46, 3 January 2011 (MST)<br />
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== Advice on Creating Animal ==<br />
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Ok so i have no clue how to do this but i want to make an Exploding Chicken animal for D20M and all i know is that its a regular chicken that explodes when within 15ft of any nonchaotic for 1d6 damage at a range of 20ft. they have a total health of 3. they also are weak and are just mobile... firecracker i guess would be the best way of puting it. my DM said to just put it on here cause he wants to see what others think. thanks!</div>Ozzy1234567890